#serious-discussion

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alpine kindle
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the amount of hatred he propagates far exceeds the advice about discipline he gives

grizzled grove
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No i find many of his videos nothing more than common sense. Like to be successful work hard. People become lazy when they don't work hard. Lol what is so new in this? Why he become famous? Because of just a good voiceover artist?

neat lintel
cursive token
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its very useful propaganda for neoliberals

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remember, Thatcher and Reagan were the first to say pull yourself up by the bootstraps and so on

grizzled grove
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when you put Neo it means ultraliberals?

cursive token
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no

cursive token
grizzled grove
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The source of these clashing ideologies is the desire to feel like an organizer. We all wish to be a sort of organizer. Want world to think your own way. Want world to understand things the way we do.

alpine kindle
cursive token
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hes become much more nuttier yeah

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i mean hes part of the daily wire now

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but the nut in him was always there

grizzled grove
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Sometimes I think once the role has been set up in media world...there is no coming back. You gotta keep.playing it whatsoever.

neat lintel
neat lintel
cursive token
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also as a right winger itself hes boring

alpine kindle
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previous month was even worse on misogynistic and transphobic bullshit

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he is not a respectable figure

neat lintel
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I cringe when JP says he read 200 environmental books and people who care for the environment hate humanity or some bs

alpine kindle
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he's just a complete liar or an idiot

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probably both

solid snow
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do people just take that claim at face value

alpine kindle
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yes

solid snow
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that he actually read 200 books

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lmao

neat lintel
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It's all rhetoric

alpine kindle
neat lintel
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He had a convo with a physicist who mentioned Godel's incompleteness theorem. Now he's saying that proves science can't tell you everything.

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facepalm

grizzled grove
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Reading 200 environmental books but still doesn't understand veganism is environmental friendly then carnivorous diet

alpine kindle
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this mf did not read 200 environmental books

neat lintel
alpine kindle
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if that

brave shell
neat lintel
brave shell
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The newspaper paradox turned up to 11.

alpine kindle
neat lintel
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He's making a poetic connection between them

alpine kindle
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the first one would make sense

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except he adds (as gödel proved) at the end

neat lintel
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He thinks your faith in God is an axiom lmao

alpine kindle
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which is just bs

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gödel didn't invent the idea of proof from axioms

neat lintel
brave shell
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It's so good. I think he probably heard about Gödel's ontological proof and mixed it up with his other work.

neat lintel
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They end up with all these poetic connections their mind makes just to confirm their belief

grizzled grove
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I want to learn rhetoric.

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Sounds powerful

neat lintel
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Powerful indeed

grizzled grove
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The art of selling lies. Fooling successfully.

neat lintel
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people have made millions using rhetoric alone

alpine kindle
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rhetoric is not necessarily lies

grizzled grove
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Are Ben Shapiro and Peterson friends?

alpine kindle
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you still need rhetoric to effectively deliver facts

neat lintel
grizzled grove
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I never came across a person rhetorically delivering truths to counter attack JP etc

alpine kindle
alpine kindle
neat lintel
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I think this is the limitation of language itself

alpine kindle
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rhetoric is everything that isn't the raw information that you are conveying

grizzled grove
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I think delivering lies rhetorically is more easy than delivering truth.

alpine kindle
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it's not though
because every time you speak you are using rhetoric

brave shell
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Not me.

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Don't touch the stuff.

alpine kindle
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the unconscious choice between two equivalent ways of phrasing a sentence is still rhetoric

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writing a script for a video is rhetoric

grizzled grove
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Then we should kinda quantify rhetoric coefficient of a statement

alpine kindle
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rhetoric is an incredibly broad term covering every choice made in the verbal presentation of information

brave shell
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I wouldn't say I made a choice, though. I just say things.

alpine kindle
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you make choices unconsciously

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like whether to include a comma before "though" or not is a choice

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you may not have made it deliberately but it's still a choice

brave shell
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I don't know about that. I've had dreams before where I tried to read a book and I'm pretty sure my unconscious couldn't string together a sentence if it tried. I guess I'm just too honest to rely on rhetoric.

alpine kindle
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rhetoric is not about honesty

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what are you talking about

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rhetoric is literally just presenting information

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again, writing a script is rhetoric

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doing vocal exercises is rhetoric

brave shell
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Is that right? Aren't a lot of exercises just noises? Surely involuntarily coughing isn't rhetoric for instance.

alpine kindle
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vocal exercises in preparation for a speech or whatever are part of rhetoric

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btw you just involuntarily used a tricolon crescendo

brave shell
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Joke's on you I did that on purpose.

alpine kindle
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touché

brave shell
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I can sort of see that, although I think in the context of the earlier conversation it makes more sense to restrict rhetoric to strictly literary techniques rather than anything that helps you get an idea across. Otherwise I guess leaving the house is rhetoric since it means more people will be able to hear you when you speak.

alpine kindle
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and how you deliver it at the time

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in conversations the structure of extended presentation bit usually gets skipped because how are you going to structure your conversation

brave shell
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Probably in the shower, although other people unfortunately like to go off-script.

alpine kindle
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if you do not know you are going to be in a conversation you probably aren't planned for it

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anyway regardless i think we are on the same page

brave shell
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Your mastery of rhetoric was just too much for me.

alpine kindle
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i am not a master i am merely a knower

brave shell
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Petition to rename subject tags to [Subject]-knower

neat lintel
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you guys take a course in public speaking or smthing?

neat lintel
hybrid quest
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Who is this 200 book reading person?

neat lintel
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jordan peterpoop

hybrid quest
midnight kayak
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bro read 200 kids science book

amber orbit
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oh damn embeds actually work now for g+

velvet dagger
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Someone bribed me with a juice box

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Couldn't exactly say no

little vine
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JP has that thing with lobsters. How if a lobster loses a fight then the other lobster nuts in that lobster's face and the lobster becomes weaker. And I don't know the point he was trying to make, like, don't fail or your doomed to be a failure? What shitty advice.

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Incels hear that and be likepepe_hype

neat lintel
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lobsters organize themselves in hierarchies, hierarchies are found in nature

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Which is a dumb point morally speaking

vocal vessel
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And they’re delicious

neat lintel
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Morality is about what we ought to do not what is found in nature lol

neat lintel
vocal vessel
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Now that I know they organise themselves into hierarchical structures, I want to eat the boss lobster

neat lintel
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Probably the most delicious

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I will make lobster ramen tonight

vocal vessel
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Could be the least delicious tho… maybe the weak ones have more tender flesh

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Prepare me a dish of your alpha lobster and omega lobster side by side.

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Lobster ramen is so bougie

neat lintel
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I don't think it's made of real lobsters

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Just lobster flavoring

vocal vessel
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Lobster essence

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Essentially lobster farts

neat lintel
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they probably incinerate lobsters and grind their bodies into a powder

vocal vessel
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I hope it’s just their shells. Seems a shame to waste lobster meat by incinerating it.

neat lintel
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I'll be honest with you I don't have a lot experience with eating lobsters

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Or seafood in general

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Oysters are so slurpy

vocal vessel
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Oysters are gross. Sea boogers.

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But most other seafood is pretty good.

neat lintel
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Fr

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it has no taste

vocal vessel
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Scallops are my favorite. If you ignore the creepy fact that they have like 200 eyes.

neat lintel
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I was beginning to think they had no eyes

vocal vessel
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Google it and brace yourself for horror.

neat lintel
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looks cute

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The mouth tho wtf

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It's like a tiger shark

vocal vessel
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Ocean animals are gross

neat lintel
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they get weirder the deeper you go down the ocean

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we still don't now 99% of what's in their

warped creek
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I love the bottom of the ocean

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They got all sorts of new life forms cooking down there

midnight kayak
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yeah i love petroleum

warped creek
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Petroleum is ok in jelly form. I do not enjoy the fossil fuel aspect

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But it can be p useful

midnight kayak
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PROFITS

warped creek
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At what cost

midnight kayak
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em

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marine life

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When leaking of petroleum

warped creek
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Makes sense

midnight kayak
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and it attracts attention from the us govt

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thats the problem

warped creek
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Do u think there’s more chance of finding petroleum in underwater trenches, or random plots of seabed

midnight kayak
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thats too hard for me

warped creek
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I like how the seabed has all sorts of worms

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Makes me wanna play with them. But… you know… not the bad ones

little vine
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I'm scared of the ocean.

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I don't like the deep dark

midnight kayak
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im thinking should i major in chemistry in university

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It seems too hard for me

little vine
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I was a Chem major who defected to math

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Not because it was too hard but that I came to love math

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I think you know yourself best

midnight kayak
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👍

little vine
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It'll definitely be hard but look at is as something you can overcome

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I did through ochem and it wasn't harder than any math

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In fact ochem is a lot of fun imo. Solving the reactions is like a game

midnight kayak
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yeah i agree that chem is easier than math and indeed im better in chem than math

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but im more interest in math than chem

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thx for your advice

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😘

echo tundra
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Imagine being this unhinged

fiery fable
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Not anyone educated let’s be real

echo tundra
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Given that he himself is educated, I can see some educated people believing that

fiery fable
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He’s a very smart man tbh

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His experience and career is impressive.

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That said in some ways he is a con artist

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!help

quasi jettyBOT
fiery fable
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Never heard of that sort of problem. Best you find a channel thag will know

strong prism
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discussion 2 is where intellect lies

neat lintel
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discussion 1 killed all my brain cells

midnight kayak
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Discussion 3 is amazing

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wha

neat lintel
midnight kayak
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it finished

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the 3 kids told about free robux

tiny saddle
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Bobux

neat lintel
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Question my heroes

alpine kindle
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don't ask to ask

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just ask the question

neat lintel
tiny forge
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Discussion 1 having a moment

neat lintel
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can anyone help me?

quasi jettyBOT
royal stirrup
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no

merry kite
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Are using R for statistical reason?

neat lintel
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Are u winning?

midnight kayak
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this is so sick

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can anyone help me?

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its not cool enough

hasty peak
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mnip

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but its cool thoopencry

tiny saddle
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I'm having a bit of trouble trying to understand what's "going on" as a run through those books which I chose to read "for leisure" ..... which gets a bit frustrating to me. Its kinda like: "I..... think I know what's going on, and what's being explained, but I can't quite grasp it? And I can't really pen my ideas and thoughts down, since I'm on the move. Perhaps I need to figure a way to be able to write down my thoughts and run through my ideas on the fly.... Any "tips"/suggestions?

echo tundra
bronze pelican
hasty peak
bronze pelican
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There's a thing called "mathematical maturity" and the only way to gain it is through experience

hasty peak
tiny saddle
lavish pebble
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Hi guys

hasty peak
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elo

split pawn
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Discussy 2 rise

lavish pebble
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How to define 0

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💀

neat lintel
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_>

split pawn
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Okay so

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Uhm

proven plinth
split pawn
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I was trying to make this concave mirror in Desmos

hasty peak
lavish pebble
proven plinth
split pawn
lavish pebble
split pawn
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I just cant get my stuff right for the reflexed ray

neat lintel
hasty peak
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halooo

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where were u

proven plinth
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alo enzi

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where was I hm

hasty peak
lavish pebble
split pawn
hasty peak
split pawn
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That statement is totally bannable

lavish pebble
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@proven plinth her name was maggi too 🥲

split pawn
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I made full on signal modulators

lavish pebble
zealous girder
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hi guys

split pawn
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hi coral

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Its time to revive the parallel universe

lavish pebble
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Where's dokter strange

neat lintel
split pawn
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Okay, so.

lavish pebble
split pawn
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Umh

neat lintel
split pawn
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So what should I make on Desmos

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Im kinda tired of building this concave mirror and going nowhere

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I already made a cute plane mirror

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So

neat lintel
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Ok show us your work what did you try?

split pawn
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I guess it suffices the love for all of geometric optics

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This is not a help channel, Tzara and I'm not asking for help

neat lintel
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Ok =))

split pawn
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Oky so

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What suggestions can you give

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Imma create this simple paint game

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in Desmos

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Let me see what can I make

scenic patio
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My suggestion is you should make it

split pawn
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I mean its gonna be weird

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And I dont know how to float the buttons I think will be used

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But yeah why not

proven knoll
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i decided to leave my school hub discord server after they decided to boast about their grades

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i was grateful for my grades and the effort i put in until they had to ruin it

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which eventually led me to drinking alcohol to soothe my misery

long matrix
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oi.

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once you're out there, no one gives a jack about grades

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(with a reasonable amount of work experience)

proven knoll
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But with a lot of applicants, I think there must be a factor used to determine which people get in and not

long matrix
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They're not worth nothing, but I think people tend to overvalue them quite a bit

long matrix
proven knoll
long matrix
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well im lucky enough that I wont ever care about my grades again (they were average)

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so perspective biased

proven knoll
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after leaving my school servers, I do feel less worried about my grades and more focused on being a better version of myself

pearl cave
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i got over 2k pings from this server blinking

proven knoll
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that's a lot of pings

deep mango
muted totem
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I've often heard people say that math majors are well prepared for the kinds of thinking required for jobs in software, but how do you actually learn the software/programming skills to become employable? What sorts of things should you be able to do?

vivid halo
muted totem
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Right, I guess I was wondering more how to figure out what you need to know

torn willow
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I mean software skills can be picked easily

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You probably need to know a basic programming language and everything else can be learnt on the job

vivid halo
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I mean you mostly just need to know how to like, write slightly nontrivial code in something like python or C++ or whatever without taking an obscene amount of time looking stuff up I guess

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if you can do that you're pretty much fine

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everything else is going to be like, specific enough to different jobs that you can't really anticipate those skills that early

muted totem
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Although I guess if you don't have a certificate like a degree in cs then you might need some proof that you're actually able to do that, like a portfolio, I guess

torn willow
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You pass the interview

velvet dagger
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That gets into "depends on the job" territory

vivid halo
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it's not uncommon in math for people to write some amount of code that is used in research and then chuck that on github

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ultimately if you're going for programming jobs there are programming interview skills that you have to study for and other kinda specific skills depending on the kinds of jobs you're applying to, but if you are like vaguely competent in programming this isn't that difficult

muted totem
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That makes sense, thanks

velvet dagger
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There is a sort of vague classification I've heard once of the types of programming you might need to be able to do

kind linden
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does anyone know if red beanie math offed himself

solid snow
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That’s a rather morbid question

kind linden
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yes

solid snow
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I don’t know this individual myself, but are they ok? Was there some sort of behavior that makes you ask that?

kind linden
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they stopped uploading and changed their bio to goodbye cruel world

solid snow
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I believe there’s no way of knowing then

velvet dagger
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  1. Basic scripting and algorithms
    This is a bit of a gcd. You're in trouble if you can't do a for loop. Starts to get to leetcode territory at the harder end

  2. Scientific Programming
    I think data science positions focus here more. All those fancy python.. libraries are in this zone.

  3. Development Programming
    Here's more CS heavy stuff. Networks maybe, operating systems, shit like that

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Sorry I fell asleep

muted totem
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I guess development programming sounds the most interesting, although as you say it seems like the sort of thing a cs degree would be helpful for

muted totem
torn willow
velvet dagger
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Probably development

torn willow
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Ok then development is not gonna be as interesting as you would expect in big tech

neat lintel
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development just sounds like low level programming

torn willow
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Do not sully low level programming

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It's usually high level js style programming

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Well usually just js

oak rock
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Hello there

neat lintel
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low level is fun frrrrr

fading dome
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What exactly is low level...

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Is it like c and c++

river moon
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low level is when you cannot debug your program because such debugger doesn't exist

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I'd say assembly is pretty high level if you learn it a bit, it's not that difficult

neat lintel
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technically C counts as high-level, but assembly is low-level
it really depends

vast surge
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High level means C-like syntax. Low-level means no C-like syntax. So C is high level, and scratch is low level programming

leaden torrent
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classifying languages as "high level" or "low level" seems foolish except in obvious cases like machine code since standards there vary so heavily

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people usually use these terms as relative comparators

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"C is more low level than python" is a practically (though not theoretically) correct statement

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so is "C is more high level than assembly"

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and all 3 listed languages are obviously higher level than machine binary

tall minnow
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low-level is floor 1 but what floor 1 means depends on your country

neat lintel
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Hi, is there someone that started to explore math as a hobby or personal endeavor?

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Or recommend someone that has a similar trajectory

fair mural
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lots of people here self study math as a hobby

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i would start with precalculus or calculus

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or if you know that you can try linear algebra or an intro to proofs book (the second one isn’t necessarily but it could help)

neat lintel
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Ohh thank you for clarifying the initial steps! But my question is more regarding to the daily habits, how usually people approach, is there a way to take away the boring approach from school times and bring a new way to explore it?

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Or what I am speaking doesn't make sense and the school approach is what people usually do? hahah

fair mural
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i don’t know if i understand your question, because if you find it boring, you probably aren’t interested in it and shouldn’t be doing it anyways

neat lintel
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Perhaps I didn't express myself in the correct way

little vine
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Math gets more interesting once you get into proof based study

fair mural
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are you asking how to manage the work

little vine
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If you're there already and bored it might not be for you

neat lintel
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I don't find math boring at all, I am just asking about how you guys usually explore the subject, is there a specific study routine different from school times or you just replicate school method in your personal studies?

little vine
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For me I just just do problems

fair mural
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i just do it whenever i feel like it really, i don’t schedule anything

little vine
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Try to prove the theorems on my own.

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That's what's fun for ne

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Me

neat lintel
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Ohh I see, it's a more relaxed approach, interesting!

fair mural
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some of the theorems seem half impossible to prove on my own lol, one of them just created a set out of thin air

little vine
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I'm out of school so I can afford to take things at my own pace

fair mural
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like how was i supposed to think of that

neat lintel
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I think I am taking it tooo methodical and it's making it less fun, perhaps the approach you guys take is much more stimulating

little vine
little vine
neat lintel
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I think my insecurity of missing a concept makes me want to ready the books from the first letter to the last one without just enjoy it

little vine
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But yeah if you're bored you might need to switch it up

little vine
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But you'll be surprised how far daily work will get you

chilly hull
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(look at me)

neat lintel
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Yes!! I totally agree with you

chilly hull
neat lintel
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I think I am putting too much pressure to just nail it in a week hahah

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And not just enjoy daily exploration

chilly hull
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the progress you make in 1 day may not seem like a lot but

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it adds up quickly

neat lintel
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I think I found where is my issue

little vine
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What's that adage

neat lintel
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I am not making it for fun hahah

little vine
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1.01^365

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Is like 30 something

little vine
neat lintel
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Perhaps it's more a work on my insecurity than my learning style

neat lintel
little vine
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Granted I learned a lot in school and rose to the challenge of deadlines and that gave me a lot of confidence but it's not how I like to learn for sure

neat lintel
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Alright guys, thank you very much for this exchange, it turns out it's not my learning style but my approach hahah

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😊 ❤️

little vine
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Happy studying!

torn willow
# fading dome What exactly is low level...

Ok I think the proper difference is
Low level = More flexibility, but Annoying to write stuff and also mistakes are extremely dangerous. By flexibility, I mean like a higher degree of customisability(Consider inline asm in C, for example)

On the other hand
High level = Less Flexibility, Convenient to write stuff, Less Dangerous Mistakes

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ofc this means it's a weird spectrum(?) and is use case dependent (You can use convenient libraries in C++ making that high level in that case or do everything from scratch making it low level)

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Like python is clearly high level, but it maintains flexibility where it matters by allowing you to customise write and customise modules in C, a more flexible language that allows you to shoot your leg.

torn willow
tall minnow
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you can certainly use libraries that mimic some high-level functionalities but root problems like memory management or safety stay at the language level

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and even when you have some higher-level monads like std::optional mimicking the Maybe monads, most of C++ standard libary was not built / engineered with such monads by default

torn willow
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Ok fair

keen hazel
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Guys, yesterday exam, I’ll have ~56% from math 😭 and this is will determinate which school I’ll go to.

torn willow
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A single exam determining your fate?

regal hemlock
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if i'm born in new zealand but my ethnicity is chinese, what is my nationality

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new zealander?

stuck shoal
split pawn
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@neat lintel

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Let's discuss some "general physics" after I have my meals

neat lintel
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a

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Tymianek how much you know

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ah

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Classical?

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Classical mechanics

split pawn
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Ok no I'm not discussing physics with you then.

neat lintel
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wha

split pawn
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I discuss physics with Desmos enthusiasts

neat lintel
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Quantum computers might work

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Can't to get my hands on them

rocky shuttle
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What kind of physics simulations have you done before?

split pawn
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Zanarcane is interested in the discussion

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Hi eigenzan!

neat lintel
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I should practice applying some classical mechanics in roblox

rocky shuttle
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What are you interested in? Maybe start with something small.

tight comet
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Yes start with something small

split pawn
tight comet
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Like why does rubbing things together create static electricity

split pawn
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hi Watson

neat lintel
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Maybe

tight comet
split pawn
tight comet
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Hi abstract

rocky shuttle
split pawn
neat lintel
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Argh it's 1:20 AM getting off

split pawn
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Cause that server name is gifted to me by someone hehe

tight comet
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Hi "Muhammad"

neat lintel
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Gut nacht

dusty gust
split pawn
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Just say

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Hi Muhammad

tight comet
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Hi

split pawn
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Grrrrow

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grrowwl

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Imma go eat

surreal sapphire
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in theory you can simulate them

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an FPGA is not that expensive, but current chip shortage means they are hard to get

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building things by hand is more of a gimmick

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if you design electronics today, you mostly use FPGAs for the design phase

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which will involve some hardware description language

split pawn
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Also maybe

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If you like

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Try your luck in Arduino

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If you don't wanna buy one

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You could atleast simulate it with not even half the fun on TinkerCad

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Yeah so enjoy the world of Arduinos

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Which one do you have

torn willow
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It's super easy to have broken hardware

split pawn
torn willow
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so I think simulations are better to enjoy Arduino lmao

split pawn
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Totally agree

surreal sapphire
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my school wants to build a giant display in the courtyard before the CS building

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and allow students to program it

split pawn
surreal sapphire
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what is your school paying opencry

woven whale
torn willow
deep mango
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I really liked my arduino, it definitely helped me to learn a lot of interesting coding lessons and electricity lessons

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Things that are not clear from like, standard cs or physics courses

split pawn
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Well how's the day ryc

deep mango
split pawn
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Oh how's the morning

wooden flax
#

arduinos are cool yeah, i have one

#

i have an offbrand one though, still uses arduino software

#

you can do some fun basic control theory demos with them

long matrix
#

grahhh

neat lintel
#

@long matrix convert everyone into what?

#

Your bio

fair mural
#

catgirl

echo tundra
#

did eingenquwu lost honourable or are you a fake one?

#

imposter

fair mural
#

i never had honorable

woven whale
#

I would leave this server and delete my discord account if quantum ever got honorable

surreal sapphire
eager reef
#

👍

fair mural
midnight carbon
#

electroboom

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phet

#

?

#

bro like electroboom alaways says that

#

its hard to believe he is not dea dyet

#

he has supernatural power

#

lol

echo tundra
rocky shuttle
#

eigenquwu for honorable

bright trout
#

Hazy for active

neat lintel
fair mural
#

i’m surprised you don’t have honorable or gamma

cold needle
#

Bruh

fair mural
neat lintel
surreal sapphire
#

that would be cool

vast surge
long matrix
#

meow.

long matrix
vast surge
snow berry
jovial ember
#

Chmonkey

chilly hull
bright hill
strange blaze
#

whats the best book on multidimensional geometry and polytopes and all that stuff?

wet berry
wet berry
storm sage
#

Lol

rare sonnet
jovial ember
#

Chmonkey

timber tusk
tiny saddle
#

I think we need a bot command for people promoting their channels here

limber thunder
#

yes auto ban

long matrix
#

make a pr

split pawn
#

Yep that does.

#

There's many more

bright hill
#

tho

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I'm not currently reading them

#

I'm preparing for some exams ;-;

violet wraith
#

beginning with i=0, for every channel help-i, there exists a channel help-(i+1)

bright hill
#

I should get back in a couple of weeks doe!

#

hello guh mod

long matrix
#

hey stupid

#

wheres slurp

violet wraith
#

hi dar queue

split pawn
#

Like insanely high and useless resistance

bright hill
#

haven't been here for weeks

#

you tell me

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@wet berry btw where you at, in each?

rich grove
#

you are disproven

violet wraith
#

🤓 actually

#

wait

#

can't send pics

bright hill
#

L

#

did you not have emeritus?

violet wraith
#

no

#

newer account

rocky shuttle
#

can i have "emeritus"?

tiny saddle
coarse saffron
#

Greetings, anyone who has done a bachelor in engineering? I am a deliviry driver and been that for 5 years now

#

But I dont want to be a loser anyone and thinking of studying engineering

#

But I am kind of stupid so wondering if anyone can share experience on how hard it is?

torn willow
#

That's very very country and region dependent

coarse saffron
#

I thought all university bachelors was suppose to be equivlent to eachother?

velvet dagger
#

Nah every school kinda does its own thing

coarse saffron
#

Ah, well I am happy to hear personal experiences from everyones country 😄

wet berry
strange blaze
fading zealot
#

It's impossible to roll 24 dice and not get a yahtzee.
However, to guarantee two yahtzees, you only need 29 dice. 🎲

leaden skiff
#

I feel like a yahtzee is when every die you roll is the same number, not just 5 being the same

fading zealot
#

The rule only uses 5 dice anyways so idk

void jewel
#

OOPS

bold turtle
#

what's a yahtzee?

little vine
#

Five dice the same

#

It's a dice game. You play it with five dice. You roll three times and can save numbers you get and reroll the others. Getting all five dice the same, a yahtzee, earns the most points

storm sage
#

Ugh trying to translate some code from matlab to python

#

this is such a pain

bright hill
#

rip

storm sage
#

I asked chatgpt to do it and it was pretty good ngl

#

but there's some bug somewhere

wild lantern
#

I want salsa and chips

storm sage
#

yum

#

take them

wild lantern
#

Life is so hard sadcat

woven whale
wild lantern
#

Matlab seems kinda gross ngl

woven whale
#

it is

storm sage
#

It is absolutely disgusting

#

that's why I'm trying to port it over

fair mural
#

i keep hearing that it sucks, what’s so bad about it

split island
#

translating code from one language to another is never easy

woven whale
storm sage
woven whale
#

no proper IDE

storm sage
#

it also indexes things starting from 1

woven whale
storm sage
#

also yeah I find the syntax gross

split island
#

indices starting at 1 is fine if you're never using any other language

storm sage
#

it has nice libraries, and that's like the only thing going for it, but now python has the same libraries and better

bright hill
#

honestly doe

#

why would anyone use matlab over python?

split island
#

Support

bright hill
#

for what?

split island
#

like it has been an industrial standard

storm sage
split island
#

matlab is being generally phased out in some areas, but it's still used a lot in engineering

storm sage
split island
#

The cost for proprietary software doesn't matter to a large company because purchasing software implies that you'll have reliability and support for the software

#

Python is "less reliable"

bright hill
#

honestly, the thing I hate the most about matlab

#

is the semicolon

storm sage
#

eh the semicolon is fine

wild lantern
#

Idk how performant matlab is but people often claim python can be slow.

#

Semicolons gud

storm sage
#

This is true, Python is slow, but most of the heavy-hitting stuff is ported from C

split island
#

python is very fucking slow if you're not using the community driven libraries

wild lantern
#

;just; fe;els ri;ght;

storm sage
#

MATLAB for loops are also incredibly slow

split island
#

Yeah

#

for loops are awful in interpreted languages

wild lantern
#

Wtf why would matlab for loops be slow? Lmao

split island
#

You have for loop -> compiler -> matlab console which is like python

#

because python is all compiled and ran in the python console

storm sage
#

also god I hate matlab's IDE

split island
#

The easiest comparison is that Java has a virtual machine so it can be compiled once and work on any system that uses it

#

this is the same for matlab and python

#

basically

#

you're further away from the computer

#

but the libraries in python and matlab that are written explicitly for calculation are usually done in lower level languages like C

wild lantern
#

I see I see

split island
#

So it's a matter of optimization

#

I'm not being exactly precise here

#

but the general idea is right

wild lantern
#

I get the idea of accumulating a bunch of slow cruft nested inside a loop due to interpreter junk.

peak tide
wild lantern
#

Matlab is for psychopaths

peak tide
#

matlab was fine in its time, remember that it is older than python and other current alternatives

#

and it's still nice if you're doing just linear algebra stuff, but it's terrible for most general purpose programming like text processing for example

little vine
#

EVERYTHING IS MATRIX

cursive prism
#

Hey guys anyone able to help out on the help forum

#

Someone sent a geometry question and he needs some help with

jovial ember
#

Chmonkey

neat lintel
#

MATLAB can use multiple threads and/or vector instructions (SIMD) to execute vectorized code written in its scripting language, which yeah is also implemented in a lower level language

#

Appreciate the review

echo tundra
tight comet
#

Julia's not prop

#

Julia's open source

#

Huge difference

echo tundra
#

Oh yeah, I was just thinking if there are other popular programming languages that start indexing at 1

tight comet
#

Rproject or basically, R

#

Note that Rcpp uses cpp, which indexes from 0

neat lintel
#

funny

elder sail
#

Doesn’t lua?

balmy gazelle
#

I have a question Can someone helps me

rare sonnet
neat lintel
#

She's great but she needs to stop talking about elon musk

#

Hate wathcers are worse than the Riding s

long matrix
split pawn
onyx pagoda
#

why would he be thrown off

long matrix
#

why wouldnt he be

rustic flower
#

who tf really join the mathematics group lmao

craggy gust
deep mango
tiny saddle
long matrix
deep mango
long matrix
alpine kindle
#

without facial hair

long matrix
#

ryc is bald

deep mango
#

That's me in 4 years

civic apex
flat harbor
#

i am here!!

#

alive!!!

#

i scream u scream we all scream for ice cream

#

i hate it when chat goes dark. i hope those who also hate it when chat goes dark will join me on the journey to make chat light again lets go wowweee!

elfin ridge
#

_ _

fair mural
bright hill
#

I'm stealing this

neat lintel
neat lintel
mint patio
#

Any Genshin gamers here

#

I need advice/help

split island
mint patio
split island
#

Kokomi is satisfying

#

let me open genshin

#

Like what I usually do is beidou + hutao for big numbers

#

or some mass electro thing

#

I didn't really do too much with team comp tho

fervent pebble
#

say you have f(x) * f(-x) = c, for some constant c

#

is f(x) always exponential or constant

#

lmk!

deep mango
fervent pebble
#

nono

#

like

#

for all x

#

im saying f(x) * f(-x) has to be a constant for all x

deep mango
#

i know what you're saying

#

that doesn't change my answer

fervent pebble
#

oh fr??

#

but like

deep mango
#

f(x) = x^2 + c for x > 0, f(x) = c/(x^2 + c) for x < 0 is a valid answer

fervent pebble
#

ah

deep mango
#

if you want it to be smooth at 0, that might change it

fervent pebble
#

how about

#

yes

#

smooth at zero would be nice

split island
#

for smooth, then yes I think

#

your function will be exponential or constant

#

proof: a hunch basically

deep mango
#

if g(x) = log f(x) then g(x) + g(-x) = d for all x (d = log c)

#

ummm

#

now differentiate. we need to have g^(n)(0) + g^(n)(0) = 0 for all even n > 1, where i'm denoting derivatives

#

so those are 0

#

so would an odd function work?

#

not quite odd but

#

if h(x) is odd, then let g(x) = h(x) + d/2

split island
#

sin(x)+2 doesn't seem to

deep mango
#

then g(x) + g(-x) = h(x) + d/2 - h(x) + d/2 = d

#

and then you can use f(x) = e^(h(x) + d/2)

split island
#

wait nvm that works

deep mango
#

so like, if f(x) = e^(sin x + 2), then f(x)f(-x) + e^(sin x + 2)e^(-sin x + 2) = e^4

#

stuff like that

#

that should be all such functions @fervent pebble

#

(in particular, if your odd function has n derivatives, your f will have n derivatives)

split island
#

Interesting

#

Moving the derivative to a sum with log was something I didn't think of

fervent pebble
#

oh, ryc

#

whatever would i do without you

deep mango
#

i kept trying to differentiate the usual formula

#

and then i was like "what if i took a log and did something totally different"

#

but then i ended up doing the same thing

split island
#

Yeah I stopped after 1 derivative because I was like headache

deep mango
#

lol

#

i was gonna pull out binomial coefficients

split island
#

Yeah that's where I didn't want to grab my ipad to actually work through it

neat lintel
#

Why yall have glomed in your nicknames??? Are yall folowing a cult?

rocky shuttle
#

the mathcord cult

split island
#

yes

echo tundra
woven whale
#

how does one get glomed

rocky shuttle
#

retract yourself to S^3

#

not everyone contains a glome, though

digital plume
#

Guys

#

Do you have any tips for me for my exam tom

rocky shuttle
#

Maybe putting down discord helps

digital plume
#

Oop

#

I did not notice

#

Mb

tiny saddle
#

Elo hoomans

echo tundra
#

Sup kmm

tiny saddle
echo tundra
#

A bit slow, I got a bit distracted with Olympiad math

#

But I think it's not for me

tiny saddle
echo tundra
#

It's like you keep applying few inequalities or tricks over and over

#

(I might be wrong idk)

tiny saddle
#

LOL

#

Some qns are like that ye

#

Dis u pull out some IMO papers and try them or amth

echo tundra
#

Nah, I tried some aops books and some random questions which made use of simple inequalities

#

The point being if I can't handle simpler problems, complex ones would just make me rage quit

ripe thorn
#

What is happening????

tiny saddle
#

I started picking these up too

#

I decided that I need to build up my ability to think critically and pull up funky algebraic manipulations and all

#

So I'm doing that and how to prove it at the moment

deep mango
rocky shuttle
#

I'm still procrastinating

deep mango
#

hard to procrastinate if you just decide to have nothing to get done!

rocky shuttle
#

I need to finish my slides for the presentation on Tuesday

ripe thorn
rocky shuttle
#

Have you started yet?

ripe thorn
#

no lol

#

I will do this at night

rocky shuttle
#

That's what I've been telling myself the past few days

ripe thorn
#

me too

#

since friday

#

but who would refuse a beach at the weekend

vocal vessel
#

Hate the beach

rocky shuttle
#

日本海

vocal vessel
#

でもイヤ

rocky shuttle
#

なんで

ocean harbor
#

Nice pfp

vocal vessel
#

Because the sun is 👎 sand in your asscrack is 👎 and salty water is 👎

ocean harbor
#

💀

long matrix
vocal vessel
#

I’m cool with the beach if I’m in a chair under a huge umbrella a reasonable distance from the water with a cocktail.

ripe thorn
ripe thorn
vocal vessel
#

Until you gash your femoral artery and bleed out and die in seconds.

ripe thorn
vocal vessel
#

I just watch the surfers 😝

ripe thorn
ripe thorn
vocal vessel
#

Wetsuits are the reason I watch the surfers

ripe thorn
#

and only the nice guys that surf in Brazil

#

I didn't understand anything the translator failed

ripe thorn
#

goodbye now I will finish doing my summary of a few pages only 14

primal fox
#

Hello

alpine kindle
#

hello

primal fox
#

can anyone help me

alpine kindle
#

wait

#

are you doing international a levels

primal fox
#

yes

alpine kindle
#

oh nvm I can't help

primal fox
#

bruh

alpine kindle
#

I'm doing the uk ones

primal fox
#

oh

#

I did my international GCSEs

#

now im confused there are like 14 units

#

unlike GCSE there was Further Pure Maths , Maths A and Maths B

ripe thorn
#

Hello

split pawn
#

Hi

#

(see, a ghostie)

ripe thorn
split pawn
#

I'm a ghost.

ripe thorn
#

Scooby Doo???

#

lol

primal fox
#

help maybe

ripe thorn
#

What do you need?

primal fox
#

read above

ripe thorn
#

I'll translate all this, it's not much work

glossy sedge
#

Hey guys! What is your occupation?

wet berry
#

I moderate several discord servers

glossy sedge
#

Cool! Do u enjoy it?

wet berry
#

I was joking

short robin
#

I have been trying to figure out the answer to this word problem for the past 3 hours. Please someone help.

neat lintel
#

send it

#

oh its a bearing problem hell no

quasi jettyBOT
vast surge
neat lintel
#

@vast surge yo are u good with complex numbers

vast surge
neat lintel
tawdry radish
#

bumble bees are best bees don't @ me

solar hawk
tawdry radish
#

exactly.

solar hawk
#

I can’t think of a single one

tawdry radish
#

carpenter bees

#

but they stress me out.

solar hawk
#

Oh

tawdry radish
#

there's lots of bees actually

#

check the bee wiki

#

but bumbles are best

#

green sweat bees worst bees

vast surge
echo tundra
#

Zorn not you also

#

fukcing glomers man

tiny saddle
tiny saddle
neat lintel
#

hey

echo tundra
golden olive
#

i wanna start tutoring younger kids im making a flyer what should i put on it

solar hawk
#

Tutor algebra

#

And put calculus on the flyer lol

golden olive
#

like random calculus symbols lol

#

i love algebra

#

but yeah like simple stuff like kids from 8-14

neat lintel
#

Convenient locations
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solar hawk
golden olive
golden olive
#

Idk the names for all the different maths

#

Age 14 and under

vocal vessel
tiny saddle
solar hawk
#

18 bucks an hour to tutor algebra 1

#

I should do that locally

viscid saffron
golden olive
#

Hm yeah

ripe thorn
#

Hello discussion-2

drowsy forum
#

Why maths is easy

tiny saddle
#

If math is easy to you

#

It just means you haven't seen enough

#

KEK (not joking, srsly tho)

vocal vessel
#

So if maths is hard it means I’ve seen some shit 😨🫣

drowsy forum
#

Uhmmm

#

I think i should get things into my own hands

eager glen
#

Yo, Anyonw watching the IPL (Indian Premire Leaque)

drowsy forum
eager glen
#

Ohh I wanted to see if there are any CSK supporters here!!

fading zealot
#

I want to post today's math fact but I don't know what is a good emoji for a field?

tiny saddle
#

Go to one of those grad channels

#

And see if u can understand anything

#

For example

drowsy forum
#

Evaluate the following integral:

∫((x^3 + 2x^2 - 3x + 4) / sqrt(x+1)) dx

#

Is this considered hard?

#

Easy

#

Very easy

#

???

fading zealot
drowsy forum
#

Find the probability of rolling (n) dices and the sum of numbers appearing on the dices are equal to square of number of dices rolled. Consider n<4096

#

Idk is this considered hard???

#

@tiny saddle

#

???

#

Tell

midnight carbon
#

fish\ @drowsy forum ?

drowsy forum
#

Idk

fading zealot
tiny saddle
fading zealot
#

Can every even number be expressed as the sum of two primes?

drowsy forum
fading zealot
#

Are there infinitely many primes with one even number in the middle?

midnight carbon
tiny saddle
drowsy forum
fading zealot
#

What is the most efficient way to fit irregular shapes in a container?

drowsy forum
#

I made this question a minute ago

fading zealot
#

These… these are the hardest questions in mathematics

tiny saddle
drowsy forum
#

Thats hardest

#

-_+

midnight carbon
fading zealot
#

And it's not like mathematicians are not annoyed how seemingly easy these are

tiny saddle
tiny saddle
#

Field axioms exist

fading zealot
tiny saddle
#

Then yeah....

#

That one's another of the tricky unsolved qns

drowsy forum
#

World's Hardest mathematics question - why did my dad leave to buy milk 😢

#

Any ideas ??

#

Basically world's hardest

fading zealot
#

Insufficient information

drowsy forum
midnight carbon
fading zealot
# drowsy forum But it is the question ;_;

You can probably frame this as a probablity problem (huh, probably probability)
But given something called Bertrand's paradox, you cannot calculate probability when the possible results are uncountably infinite

drowsy forum
#

Thanks for answer

fading zealot
#

You're welcome

drowsy forum
#

I'll wait for my dad

#

How much time will it take my dad to come back??

fading zealot
#

Genius, you gave us a countable range to work with

drowsy forum
fading zealot
# drowsy forum Yea truth

You can calculate the probablity that he will never come back by using the average lifespan and the mortality rate in that age range (which should be 50%, that's the definition of average life expectancy) in your area

#

Subtract that from one you get the probability that he will come back eventually

#

Likely within your lifetime, since, if he is your biological father, he will be older than you.

#

And if not, you're likely not too much older compared to him

tiny saddle
#

._.

#

I like how u took him srsly

fading zealot
#

You gotta showoff when you can

vocal vessel
#

It successfully put an end to the nonsense tho. Well done.

drowsy forum
#

Good explanation

drowsy forum
neat lintel
#

do you guys have any advice to not get burnout while tryharding math?

storm sage
#

Take breaks

#

Do fun stuff

granite hound
#

Don't feel bad about taking time away

#

Your brain needs time to digest

fading zealot
#

Many good ideas come up in the shower, right before bed, or just after you've decided to take a break

neat lintel
fervent pebble
#

actually

#

this is trivial

#

welll

#

exactly one?

#

or at least one?

#

i can answer the second question!

fading zealot
fervent pebble
#

that's not what u said

fading zealot
#

Exsatly one, I mean

fervent pebble
#

oh

#

well

#

probably!

#

which is good enough for me

fading zealot
#

I was explaining to someone who doesn't really have a grasp of what a difficult math problem is

fervent pebble
#

not sure much explaining was going on tbh

fading zealot
#

Well, not explaining, more like giving examples

#

Which can still open someone's eye

granite hound
#

What about the Collatz Conjecture?

woven whale
#

however this discord chat is too small to fit my proof

fading zealot
#

Fermat moment

granite hound
#

Or proving that the powerset of a any sey is larger than the original set, even infinite ones

vast cipher
#

@languid egret are you able to recommend any resource for learning dplyr?

solar hawk
#

🦒

crude torrent
split pawn
#

Else, dont ever try showing your proof

midnight kayak
#

What is required if I want to study programming

#

In university