serious-discussion

[tiny saddle]

ranting be like

[long matrix]

what good does this do anyone

maybe take a load off your chest, sure.

but u cant do it forever

[neat lintel]

Well complaining about differences in social strata is basically what a protest is yeah?

[hasty leaf]

But there will always be people that wanna protest too much

[long matrix]

i think protests tend to (try or claim) to be constructive also

not just protest against shit without proposing any fixes

[untold sage]

What are you trying to protest for if you don't have a solution lol

[neat lintel]

Im not protesting

[untold sage]

Well you are complaining and you said complaining is protesting

[tiny saddle]

Rant: complaining abt a situation which yr powerless in, or just wanna dish out yr feelings on smth with no particular end goal/point in mind
protest: fight for a change and make the change
There's a difference

[long matrix]

semantics, we thought u meant protest protest

[hasty leaf]

You can protest against the protesters for protesting too much

[tiny saddle]

[neat lintel]

There is a difference.
However the previous comment asked what good complaining does.
Well complaining can lead to protest for instance which is a good thing.
It's not what I am doing, I am just ranting because I want to rant out of frustration.

[long matrix]

it only does that if the complaining leads to constructive improvement ideas

which leads to the protest

without the improvement, theres nothing to do

[neat lintel]

Yeah. Like I said that's not what Im doing but it does contradict your last statement

[hasty leaf]

Except make noise .... like bark bark bark!

[long matrix]

yes, i think theres nothing to do, sorry

You can rant, but thats for yourself to get it off your chest

not other people

[neat lintel]

Ya thats right.
Fuck school. School is shit.

[hasty leaf]

Not for all thou

Some found it fun

[neat lintel]

Well I found it shit.

[hasty leaf]

Sorry to hear that but many found it ok

[tiny saddle]

doesn't mean u should shit on assert yr opinion on others

even if I agree with u that's going too far pal

[neat lintel]

Ur asserting ur opinion on me

[neat lintel]

Well I found it shit

[long matrix]

its fine to tell everyone you found it shit

[neat lintel]

Thanks

[long matrix]

after 100 times it might get a tad old.

[neat lintel]

School is shit

[hasty leaf]

Do something about it maybe be a teacher

[neat lintel]

Maybe i should

[tiny saddle]

this is not an opinion, it's the statement that others have the right for others to have 1 ._.

if u keep repeating yrself yr gonna sound like an assertive broken record, even if u don't intend to sound as such

[hasty leaf]

Be the teacher that inspires kids to excel the teacher you wished you had

[neat lintel]

No u said that I shouldn't assert my opinion on others., not to respect others opinions

[sturdy quarry]

What if I wish to have no teacher?

[hasty leaf]

https://youtu.be/qtQQC23eseU

[hasty leaf]

Self learn then

[sturdy quarry]

That's what I do

but I still gotta spend too many hours of my life learning how to add fractions

[hasty leaf]

That's ok

[tiny saddle]

so now that people are telling u their opinion that they adknowledge yr opinion and agree with u, but find that yr repeating yrself a bit too much, would u stop?

[tiny saddle]

meanwhile wolfram:

[neat lintel]

No I also want the last word.

[tiny saddle]

that's... childish, but sure

[neat lintel]

You just said a gotcha and took my last word for yourself you asshole!

[sturdy quarry]

okay, last words?

[tiny saddle]

https://tenor.com/view/gun-gif-22839895

[sturdy quarry]

You killed him too early. He couldnt even say the last words

[arctic wadi]

wht is 2+2 ?

anyone?

[neat lintel]

Idk

[arctic wadi]

UGH

I NEED TO DO MY H.W

TELL FAST

[long matrix]

is this a mod ping

[arctic wadi]

or my mom will kill me

[long matrix]

what grade are you in

[arctic wadi]

8

[long matrix]

ok, then you should have the minimal maturity required to read channel topics and not mispost

[arctic wadi]

oi

i was just kidding

[sturdy quarry]

I can't stop laughing

[arctic wadi]

so ?

[long matrix]

well I wasn't.

if u want to kid, go to #chill

[arctic wadi]

who u called kid huh

[hollow zenith]

,selfroles —list

[fathom swallow]

Self assignable roles for this guild:

Helpers, studying!, Advanced, Talks, Role that does nothing, she/her, he/him, they/them, any pronouns, ask pronouns
```Use `,iam role1, role2, ...` to assign yourself roles.
Use `,iamnot role1, role2, ...` to remove the roles.

[hollow zenith]

,iam role5

[fathom swallow]

No selfroles matching role5.
See ,selfroles --list for the list of valid selfroles.

Mar 6, 2023, 2:46 PM

[void tundra]

#bots

[hollow zenith]

Ye ok

[umbral forge]

Is there a way to approximate the lowest value of |sin(n)| up to an integer n

[cyan goblet]

sin(n) is bounded between 1 and -1 for any n

thus |sin(n)| is bounded between 0 and 1

[umbral forge]

Yes

[long matrix]

isnt it 0

???

[cyan goblet]

no need to approximate the lowest value, it's just 0

[umbral forge]

Like I’m asking if you check |sin(n)| for n=1, 2, 3… k

[long matrix]

0 is an integer.

[cyan goblet]

the lowest value will always be 0 lol

[umbral forge]

Mb I’m French, I meant natural numbers excluding 0

[long matrix]

thats an awfully specific question, the answer is likely brute force

[umbral forge]

Not my point I’m asking for a lower bound that would be more than 0 for natural numbers up to a certain point

[solid snow]

You have to check like 4 values

And thassit

[long matrix]

do u??

[solid snow]

Since sin(n) is still periodic

[long matrix]

huh

no its natural n

[solid snow]

Ya?

[long matrix]

ud have to check all integers up to n

[cyan goblet]

oh i see what you're saying

[long matrix]

nani

[umbral forge]

I worded that weirdly mb lol

[cyan goblet]

yeah just use periodicity of sin lol

[long matrix]

nani????

[umbral forge]

How is it periodic

What

[long matrix]

how are u using periodicity what???

[umbral forge]

The period is 2pi

That’s not an integer value

[solid snow]

Oh yeah you cant

[long matrix]

this feels like a dynamical systems question

i feel like u could get a nice answer using that

otherwise, just brute force.

[umbral forge]

I was wondering if something where the ratio between the approximation and the real value tends to 1 as n goes to infinity

Existed

[solid snow]

Proof: make the question easier an use |sin(npi/2)|

[umbral forge]

Kind of like PNT

[umbral forge]

That is true using this would make it simpler

[long matrix]

ok heres one approach

youre on the unit circle

it has circumference 2pi

and so youre moving around 1 unit around circumference

for every increase of 1 for the angle

sin is the y value

now youre looking for the point that is closest to the x axis

So that is integers

that is close to a multiple of pi

I think

[umbral forge]

Yeah

Sounds right

[long matrix]

So computing the multiples of pi and checking which integers its close to

is a way

[umbral forge]

Can the continued fraction of pi be used for this

[long matrix]

idk

[umbral forge]

Fair enough lol

Cause if you get an approximation of pi using a fraction a/b

Then a would be close to the x axis

[deep mango]

[surreal kindle]

[umbral forge]

This is probably a bit too complicated to find but whatever I’ll try stuff

[deep mango]

this is a hard question, related to something called diophantine approximation

[umbral forge]

Oh yeah that seems to fit perfectly for this problem

[deep mango]

Since |sin(x) - x| <= Cx^3 for x close to 0, we can translate this by pi to say that |sin(x) - (-1)^n(x - n pi)| ≤ C(x - n pi)^3 for x close to n pi, for each n

Something like that

And it's also lower bounded by a cubic with a different c

Now you are interested in seeing how close x - n pi is to 0, for integer x

In other words, how close x/n - pi is to 0

[long matrix]

thats interesting.

except im not sure how easy that is to compute

[deep mango]

So this is directly related to the rate of diophantine approximation for pi

Which is something that is difficult but somewhat understood

(yes, this is a dynamical systems problem)

(also transcendental number theory)

[umbral forge]

Yeah this doesn’t sound like easy stuff but it does seem interesting

Thx for the info I’ll look at what I can find about these opics

Oh so this also concerns the irrationality measure of pi right

[wooden flax]

@deep mango are you not mod anymore 🙁

[long matrix]

hes on strike.

[deep mango]

I stand in solidarity with mistreated mods everywhere. Power to the people!

[long matrix]

there something wrong with this that I can't put my finger on.

[wooden flax]

This is random but can someone quickly spend 5-7 mins checking over my english essay

thanks!

[willow mulch]

send it to me in dms

i will check it for you

[wooden flax]

ok thx

[zealous garden]

I appreciate it

[deep mango]

Invictus has devolved into one of the help channel misusers

[wooden flax]

🙁

I mean I thought help channels are for math-related stuff

this was just a small english assignment i need to get done

its a somewhat sensitive topic or i would have posted in #chill

[cyan goblet]

hi ricey

[tranquil cairn]

Chinese are pretty good

[stark pelican]

I can’t tell if I’m just really slow or does no one in my class understand this lecturer

[flint hound]

question: how far away from the current position of earth was the pyramid of giza built?

[hasty leaf]

Woof?

[static loom]

what

[old fox]

That's a very interesting question. To answer it, we need to know when the Pyramid of Giza was built, where Earth is located in the Milky Way galaxy, and how long it takes for the Sun to orbit around the galactic center.

The Pyramid of Giza was built between 2580 BC and 2560 BC. Earth is located about 25,000 light-years away from both the galactic center and the rim of the Milky Way galaxy. It takes about 230 million years for our solar system to make one revolution around the galactic center.

To estimate how far away from Earth's current position was the Pyramid of Giza built in terms of the Sun's revolution around the galactic center, we can use a simple formula:

distance = speed x time

where speed is the average velocity of our solar system around the galactic center, which is about 514,000 mph, and time is how long ago was 2580 BC or 2560 BC from now.

Assuming that 2023 AD is now, we can calculate that 2580 BC was about 4603 years ago, and 2560 BC was about 4583 years ago. Therefore,

distance = 514000 x (4603 x 365 x 24) = 2.06 trillion miles

or

distance = 514000 x (4583 x 365 x 24) = 2.05 trillion miles

So we can say that when the Pyramid of Giza was built, Earth was roughly 2 trillion miles away from its current position in terms of the Sun's revolution around the galactic center.

However, this is only an approximation based on some assumptions and simplifications. For example, we ignored leap years and other calendar adjustments; we assumed that our solar system moves at a constant speed and direction; we neglected other motions such as Earth's rotation and orbit around the Sun; and we did not account for any gravitational perturbations or other factors that may affect our solar system's motion.

Therefore, a more accurate answer would require more sophisticated calculations using more precise data and models. I hope this helps you understand how complex this question is.

[long matrix]

@wooden flax he will be back

lets us continue

[long matrix]

Read the rules. No chatgpt without sourcing it.

[wooden flax]

how do u know

🙁

[long matrix]

like this.

[old fox]

where

[long matrix]

#changelog message

here i guess

and also.. like common sense maybe

dont paste walls of text passing it as your own if it isnt?

[neat lintel]

can someone help me identify this function

does it look familiar to any of you?

[brittle socket]

!help

[quasi jetty]

Please read #❓how-to-get-help

[mellow echo]

Anyone have words of encouragement? I’m taking the ACT test today

[devout nacelle]

Good luck!

[brittle socket]

May you have good probability

[cobalt star]

people in #discussion are rude

i do not understand what a differential is
are there notably well explanations

[fading pulsar]

Look into differential forms maybe if you're wondering what the dx means

[cobalt star]

wikipedia is quite scary for "Differential forms"

these two boys look quite similar, i only noticed it didnt say u^u until i read the next line
arguably this is an accessibility issue

i wonder if anyone has started an action against computer modern family of fonts for being inaccessible

[long matrix]

u and v smh

[eager reef]

what about differentials confuses you

[long matrix]

the symbols of u and v

[cobalt star]

what is it supposed to represent

[eager reef]

common choice for wedge products

[cobalt star]

unfortunately yes
alongside with m,n and p,q ; which are also letters with very similar shapes, making them prone to confusion

oof forgot to turn off ping sorry

[eager reef]

no worries

[flint hound]

the correct answer to the question i posted a few hours ago is 3.5 light years.

[cobalt star]

from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Differential_of_a_function
what is d f(x) = f'(x) dx supposed to mean?
u understand the algebra behind it, namely f'(x) = df(x) / dx but this equation does not have a clear intuitive interpretation alongside its algebraic one

i suppose i am looking for about 2-10 pages of exploration of what a differential is supposed to be

as a good quality text which does this is hard to find, i come here, in the hope that someone else might have beaten this track before and might have a good text to recommend

[river moon]

df is a differential of f, for fixed x it's a linear function of dx

indeed, for fixed x f'(x) is a number, then f'(x) * dx has form a*dx which is a linear function of dx

[cobalt star]

that property seems rather obvious at the first read

[tall minnow]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exterior_derivative

it's just as people say, differential forms, and the exterior derivative

[river moon]

differential operates with finite dx like any function would, so things like df(x)/dx = f'(x) don't really make sense to do

namely because 1) that's not what the derivative actually equal to and 2) you're transforming it into an implicit form like y/x = 5 instead of leaving it as is y = 5x

[cobalt star]

that's not what the derivative actually equal to
really?

[river moon]

$f'(x) = \lim_{\Delta x \to 0}\frac{f(x+\Delta x) - f(x)}{\Delta x}$ or alternative definition is $\ f(x+\Delta x) = f(x) + f'(x) \cdot \Delta x + o(\Delta x) \$ meanwhile the differential is defined as $df(x,\Delta x) = f'(x) \cdot \Delta x$

[fathom swallow]

Transparent_Elemental

[river moon]

in other words $f(x+\Delta x) - f(x) = f'(x) \cdot \Delta x + o(\Delta x) \neq \ \neq f'(x) \cdot \Delta x = df(x,\Delta x)$

[fathom swallow]

Transparent_Elemental

[cobalt star]

whats o(x) supposed to represent?

[long matrix]

'little o notation'

lookitup

[river moon]

it's a function such that it approaches 0 faster than Delta x whenever Delta x approaches 0

it contains all the non-linear terms of this expansion f(x+Delta x) - f(x) that aren't accounted by differential

[cobalt star]

ah

[river moon]

so while the true change in function is equal to f(x+Delta x) - f(x) the differential is only approximately equal to that change for small Delta x

[leaden torrent]

if youre familiar with big O notation (say from algorithmic complexity), big O is the ≤ to little o's <

[there's more nuance than that but that's close enough]

[cobalt star]

that has magically cleared up a lot

thank you

[cobalt star]

forgive my simple question, but how did $o(x)$ appear? i tried to follow what happens when you do that transfromation and got this far:
$$
\begin{aligned}
f'(x) &= \frac{f(x+\Delta x) - f(x)}{\Delta x}\
f'(x) * \Delta x &= f(x+\Delta x) - f(x)\
f'(x) * \Delta x + f(x) &= f(x+\Delta x)\
\end{aligned}
$$

so i assume the $o(x)$ is a byproduct of the limit being there, however even when taking into account the limit, not much changes.

where does the o(x) come from?

[fathom swallow]

erentar2002

[river moon]

it comes from the definition of differentiable function, we say f(x) is differentiable at x if this second expansion holds

[fathom swallow]

Transparent_Elemental

Transparent_Elemental

[cobalt star]

ah

great

[mental flax]

Guys, I used a method to answer a question- my teacher gave me 0 out of 3 even though the answer was the exact same using her method. I have been explaining my method the entire day- even wrote a 10-page explanation for it but she is still not convinced. What to do 😭

[fading pulsar]

Post your method

[river moon]

you might find in some real analysis books proof that the two definitions (via the limit and via the expansion are equivalent and one implies the other), though that's turns out to be not quite true quite a bit later on

[cobalt star]

even though i am still a little bit uncomfortable with the concept, this statement gave me a lot of intuition i'd have hunt around for ages
thank you so much!

[mental flax]

#help-16 message

[old fox]

wall of text alright but I doubt anyone would mistake it for mine. AI generated text is pretty obvious at this point

[mental flax]

I have posted it there

although I have included only the main point of my explanation there

pls help 😭

[cobalt star]

i'm trying to chew through rudin alongside engineering school and i must say it is very terse and dense
going this far would have taken me ages, thank you so much for your time

on a side note,

though that's turns out to be not quite true quite a bit later on
i have seen this happen to me many times. what is the justification for doing this? it's called "lying to children" by somebody notable, i am sure

[river moon]

I guess the justification is that it requires working with functions of multiple variables instead of single variable to notice the difference and looking at a derivative as a linear operator, which requires a bunch of extra operator theory knowledge

in single variable calculus you don't see the sharp difference between things like differential and derivative because both are numbers, but in more general context they aren't even the same kind of object

[cobalt star]

ooh

great!

thank you very much for telling that last bit

[tight comet]

I have to say I don't think repeating algebraically 'Delta x' for these helps at all, just call it y

[cobalt star]

believe me when you are dealing with an idiot like me, it does help

[cinder zephyr]

I don't think rudin is a good first analysis text

if you're self studying analysis there are better first texts

[cobalt star]

yes, tell me where the good stuff at

[cinder zephyr]

I used Rosenlicht

I liked it alot

[velvet dagger]

As if we haven't had enough analysis books already

[cinder zephyr]

Rudin has a habit for writing the most concise proofs possible, which is nice as a reference

but not good for learning

[cobalt star]

thank you
it is very hard to get a good book recommendation in this server these days

[cinder zephyr]

#book-recommendations ?

[tall minnow]

it's not like we have discussed rudin a billion times

[cobalt star]

ah
sorry
i should have read up the chat history

i will search for rudin and read all relevant discussions

[velvet dagger]

You don't need to lol

Just that when we have a full book recs channel

[cobalt star]

it was a joke
i am sure the query results will be about 2TB on its own

[velvet dagger]

Feels like saying "It's hard to get a book rec here" is kinda talking shit lmfao

[cobalt star]

it is talking shit

[tall minnow]

if you want chatty / insightful, try Tao's Analysis 1.

[cobalt star]

but it was meant to signify the value i gave for spamakin's help

i suppose i could have done it less shit talky

[velvet dagger]

Whatever you intended it to be it just sounded dumb lol

[cobalt star]

this is very nice

it weirdly feels like a delightful children's book version of rudin
rudin felt like sandpaper in contrast
although, i am just at the start of the book

[cinder zephyr]

chatty books are the best books

[slim shale]

What should I learn for go to German university? Like what kind of math Algebra? geometry? trigonometry?

[woven whale]

german unis don't require any prereqs

except maybe like

the language

[slim shale]

So just learn German

And it's all ?@woven whale

[woven whale]

yeah. there are precourses for a reason

[slim shale]

@woven whale okay thanks. Why you know it ? Are you from German or you also wanna go to there?

[surreal sapphire]

what do you want to study pyguy

[slim shale]

It (CS ) computer Science or something finance/ languages but it for fun

[surreal sapphire]

well, the prereqs will differ obviously but a "standard" highschool education is enough

if you want to do a bachelors in germany, you must likely need to know the language

for a masters only, english is fine in most cases

though living in a country you probably want to speak the language anyway

[slim shale]

I already learning

[slim shale]

So just learn German

[slim shale]

🤔😱

[slim shale]

Why and it's still free ?

[surreal sapphire]

masters classes are usually offered in english

its as free as the bachelor

no idea how it is for internationals exactly

[slim shale]

Thanks a lot

[woven whale]

I'm german

[slim shale]

Cool

Why here so many Germans ?

[hearty widget]

Someone from England started the degree with me in Germany and he said it was very annoying to get everything sorted out with german authorities/german university.
He was stressed out at the beginning of the semester lol

[long matrix]

'sorted' ?

[hearty widget]

Is this not a phrase? "To sort something out"

[long matrix]

yes but i mean what

'very annoying to get everything sorted out with german authorities/german university'

i was wondering what u meant by "everything".

[hearty widget]

Hmm i guess the paperwork for everything, moving to germany and stuff.
Also getting his highschool degree accepted, meeting language requirements.
He was technically not enrolled until one month into the semester.
Also he complained about admission offices being incompetent.

[long matrix]

ouch.

[hearty widget]

I didnt dig deeper, but my impression was that its stressfull

[dapper current]

if youre trying to help in the help channel is it ever acceptable to just give them the answer if they arent getting it otherwise

[fringe summit]

No

[dapper current]

okay

[wide marsh]

hi

i am new

i am from mexico

[royal cradle]

im listening to charles ives now

[fringe summit]

Nice

[royal cradle]

charles ives was good but not that interesting

or perhaps i am missing the point

give me more

[cinder zephyr]

I played a Charles Ives piece in high school

was fun

[royal cradle]

really?!

which one

[cinder zephyr]

we played Variations on America

[fringe summit]

https://youtu.be/v4a7KUAI4L8

[pallid pike]

[slim shale]

For me it's okay all better than stay at my country

[fading zealot]

Is the probability that two odd numbers are coprime just 6/π²/(1-1/2)² ?

Checking just to be safe

Because the frequency of multiples of odd numbers in a sequence of odd numbers is the same as the sequence of all positive integers

[hearty widget]

Sure, i think my point (based on that anecdote) is to start the admission process asap so you have a time buffer If something out of your control happens.
Good luck getting into the Uni you want 👍

[slim shale]

Thanks I will go to the best uni of German and make German great again

[neat lintel]

[atomic haven]

lets say u have a perfect birthday cake and ur allowed to take a circular slice of any radius

how would u take a slice such that you get the most amount of cream?

relative to if u take a slice of the same radius but in a different region of the cake

[barren anchor]

you're messing the question up I think

[fallen current]

Hm what's the quickest way to get over burnout

[woven whale]

don't get a burnout in the first place

[hearty shard]

Hey i am looking for some people who can help in my research on maths

[woven whale]

what are you researching

the collatz conjecture?

the riemann hypothesis?

[hearty shard]

Rieman hypothesis

[woven whale]

what do you have so far?

[hearty shard]

Not quite a lot

I started it recently

[woven whale]

how much complex analysis do you know to begin with?

[hearty shard]

You can try me

[eager reef]

Is there a holomorphic function f: C -> C such that f(C)=S^1?

this is the only question from a complex analysis exam that i remember

[hearty shard]

Can I answer

[eager reef]

sure

[hearty shard]

I think that there is

no such holomorphic function f: C -> C that maps the entire complex plane to the unit circle S^1.

This is a consequence of Liouville's theorem, which states that any bounded entire function is constant. If such a holomorphic function f existed, then it would be bounded since it maps the unbounded complex plane to the compact set S^1, but it cannot be constant since it maps the entire plane onto the non-constant circle. This contradicts Liouville's theorem and hence there can be no such holomorphic function.

[woven whale]

that looks like chatgpt

[hearty shard]

What is that?

[dapper badge]

hm

there are lots of ways to solve this methinks

[hearty shard]

Yeah

Bye

[fallen current]

Hm what's the quickest way to get over burnout given that one already does have burnout

[tall minnow]

It probably is a chatbot answer

Real humans don't bother to write formally in an informal setting

[eager reef]

Interesting, i asked chatgpt and it gave a different but correct answer

[tall minnow]

No humans would unironically write unbounded complex plane, and then mention it again needlessly in the same sentence as the entire plane

And it's from an account I already blocked too so it did something sus in the past

[eager reef]

lol

[fading pulsar]

Lol you're right, it does sound really chatgpt

[tall minnow]

If simple questions could be done by chatbots we may have to up the difficulty

[frail lagoon]

Open mapping theorem

[woven whale]

your block list must be enormous

[neat lintel]

is anyone here a phd student who could review my resume

[sharp cave]

AI part 2

[storm sage]

LOL

[fringe summit]

Namely the sine function and the identity function

[storm sage]

genius

[neat lintel]

You are epic this server needs much more stuff like this

[storm sage]

🫂

[vapid wasp]

?

[cloud shadow]

What do u guys think about these results

Is it ok to get 8%.I fucking tanked that

I feel soo shit I got the lowest. Not even double digits

[dapper current]

what class is it for

[cloud shadow]

structural engineering

[patent robin]

If anyone can help me dm me

[swift sinew]

#❓how-to-get-help

[fringe summit]

No, but also don’t post student id looking numbers

[cold needle]

yeah im going to delete that

[flint hound]

prove the reduced lagrangian space of the lambert W function is a perfectoid space which implies automorphic forms on the gamma axis, assuming #❓how-to-get-help does not exist?

[solid snow]

A sign to start getting serious about your studies

[fluid jungle]

I love how the dumb shit on the discussion channels is a daily occurence

[hearty widget]

Does anyone have recommendations on "math-y" applications of computer science.
Context: have to pick a minor next to math major, tried computer science ("Informatik 1"/"computer science 1", basically did basic haskell, basic java with and general computer science basics I think). I didnt really enjoy the class, Im also not really immersed in computer science in general, but I want to give it a honest chance.
I did enjoy my math classes, so I think im looking to have some goal/motivation/application for the class, by finding something where I can apply the stuff in a setting I already like I guess (or something along the lines).
Also maybe something employable, im not sure how the real world works and how relevant the stuff you learn in a 3 semester progression is.

I asked a friend that recommended cryptography. That I will check out and see how I like it.

[ripe thistle]

hi

could i have some help on my mathmatics test coming up

?

im new to this group

so

👍

[halcyon lichen]

No help in tests my brudda

[chilly hull]

we can help review

we cant help on the test directly

[cinder zephyr]

algorithms: randomized algorithms use lots of probability, geometric algorithms use lots of topology, computational geometry / topology, combinational algorithms, computational algebra, etc

complexity theory: languages, state machines, studying how hard problems are relative to each other, algebraic complexity is a thing

there's alot of math if you know where to look

take an algorithms course and a complexity theory course, that's the basis of theoretical CS

[ripe thistle]

so i got 70 out of 90

[neat lintel]

I came to the conclusion that socializing on SMs is bad, i will permanently stick with my codes and maths

Is the book "Calculus Made Easy" a good start for someone to refresh their high school math in calculus

[deep mango]

It's a fun book, though it does things differently from modern calculus books

(it uses infinitessimals instead of limits, which isn't really rigorous)

I like the book though

[hearty widget]

Thanks, appreciate your input. As of yet im limited to a mandatory 3 course CS progression but i checked and the second course is about algorithms and data structure.
Can you recommend some cs online community? For immersion and lurking purposes and maybe to ask questions. Like the cs pendant to this math server or something in that direction.

[cinder zephyr]

in #old-network there's a CS server

so yea take that data structures course and see if you can add another algorithms / complexity course after that

[ripe thistle]

hey wasup guys

yall stink

jk

love you all

[wooden flax]

what was the message

LOL today i took a coding competition

big one

and i expected it to be algorithm/logic shit

and it was fucking swift/ruby syntax

[analog salmon]

There's a lot of math in statistics. Look up importance sampling/multiple importance sampling. Same with math in 3D rendering/ray tracing

[storm sage]

what's not rigorous about it >:(

(this is a joke)

[deep mango]

To be fair

it's not like most calculus books prove their limits

and you can certainly make the things silvanus does rigorous

it's not standard though

[atomic hornet]

Depending on what uni offers consider: algorithms, complexity, coding theory, information theory, optimization related courses may be offered in cs

[gritty plank]

You know Stewart gets a lot of gruff but he does actually prove the theorems he states in his book. The way he makes it approachable is by restricting every theorem to 1d compact intervals, but it's a perfectly consistent framework for a first calc course.

[atomic hornet]

I didnt think stewart gets a lot of gruff

Its a standard calculus book used by many universities

[gritty plank]

Maybe I'm in good company then. When I was an undergrad (late '00s) it was common for people looking to dunk on something to come up with a litany of complaints about Stewart, which I think was due to how widespread it was.

[leaden eagle]

Hi, im doing some research for a project, could you guys please fill out this really short survey? I would really appreciate your help.
https://forms.gle/cYVdkrWHWo9TZfDe9

[dusty grove]

Very good

[fading pulsar]

Slowly becoming addicted to coffee, been getting a morning coffee for almost a week now

Not a fan

[deep mango]

Coffee

[vivid halo]

Embrace it. Although maybe make your own coffee, it's much cheaper. Buying coffee every day is convenient but so expensive

[burnt kettle]

Buy a bottle of caffeine pills

If you do the cost/caffeine it's soooo much more efficient

Just much more degenerate

It's also way less "hard hitting" compared to a coffee

Pills typically slow release

[vivid halo]

depends on the pill, a lot are fast release

also substantially healthier than a lot of the over sweetened coffee that a lot of people drink

[fading pulsar]

I'm not that addicted that I need a pill I just get a black coffee every day lol

[vivid halo]

I mean it does tend to increase productivity, so there are good reasons to take it every day, and hence reasons to take it cheaply every day

[fading pulsar]

Oh ok for some reason I thought it was like for coffee addicts who need an extra large hit of caffeine

[vivid halo]

also it's nice since it's not acidic like coffee

so theoretically easier on the stomach

[fading pulsar]

I’ll look into it sometime when I get tired of coffee and just need the caffeine

[vivid halo]

also you can get caffeine pills that have l-theanine which is an amino acid that's found in like green tea and stuff that makes some of the side effects of caffeine milder

or people just get separate l-theanine pills or whatever

[long matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/birds-bird-ring-around-the-rosie-coffee-cockatiel-gif-4581095

[bronze pelican]

Thats ryc

[cunning compass]

Bird activities

[sacred lagoon]

@cunning compass are you the one running the insta acc fru1ty?

[cunning compass]

Maybe

[regal night]

Math server seems saner than physics server while i would usually expect the opposite

[safe parrot]

math>>>>>>physics

simple as that!

[gritty plank]

math is for people who want to understand the universe, physics is for people who think they already understand the universe

[open spindle]

Just the cold hearted truth

[tall minnow]

least prideful math enjoyer

[solid snow]

what part of math gives you a deep insight into the universe

[vivid halo]

mathematical physics lmao

[steady fossil]

Algebraic geometry

Obviously the most useful for understanding the universe.

[vivid halo]

I don't think there is another field of mathematics where the feeling of discovery (as opposed to invention) is as strong as in the Langlands program

not so unrelated to mathematical physics either

a big portion of Langlands is "just" studying quantum mechanics on arithmetic locally symmetric spaces

lots of stuff in geometric Langlands is literally proved using the language of quantum field theory, etc etc

[gritty plank]

none of it but if you even want to attempt to understand some of the universe in any kind of rigorous way then mathematics is there

[tall minnow]

aka studying the Laplacian

[tall minnow]

PDE.
Just read Taylor's PDE.

most of physics boils down to PDEs

[vivid halo]

yeah so basically unless you're studying the spectrum of a laplacian, you're not doing math

[tall minnow]

no you're just preparing yourself to study the spectrum of the laplacian

[dapper current]

the graph laplacian seems so much simpler than the differential one

[burnt dune]

yo mods

<@&268886789983436800>

why remove #challenge-problems

[leaden torrent]

this was literally years ago

no one was maintaining it

[burnt dune]

bro im literally a problem solver and never got my tag

u literally cheat me

[odd narwhal]

????

[leaden torrent]

i dont think the roles even exist anymore

why are you complaining about this

[odd narwhal]

have you just now noticed this?

[leaden torrent]

if you want to put it in your about me "used to be a problem solver on discord.gg/math 3 years ago"

i wont stop you

but we literally have no mechanism to display this

[burnt dune]

just make a channel

like u had

whats so impossible about it

it was fun and it had cool problems

[burnt dune]

no

and i was asking why did u remove it and u do not want to answer me so 😦

[surreal sapphire]

#challenge-problems

[dapper current]

was it like olympiad problems?

[surreal sapphire]

its archived

[odd narwhal]

then why are you asking now

when it's been 3 years

[surreal sapphire]

the problems still exist

[burnt dune]

doesnt matter @odd narwhal

[odd narwhal]

you seem to not understand the amount of active maintenance that channel needed

[leaden torrent]

as mentioned, no one was maintaining it

[burnt dune]

why dont u guys show it

[surreal sapphire]

its shown

[burnt dune]

wdym

[leaden torrent]

pretty sure the problems are still listed somewhere

[surreal sapphire]

the archivist role is self assignable

[leaden torrent]

yeah

[burnt dune]

u couldnt type in the channel

[odd narwhal]

you are welcome to self-assign the archivist role to see the old problems

[leaden torrent]

the maintainers would be responsible for making new problems and for verifying solutions to old ones

it took a lot of work

like many hours a week

if you just want the problems, self-assign the archivist role and check them out

[burnt dune]

maintainers? do u mean the people who pose the problems?

[leaden torrent]

but the infrastructure around getting the role and stuff was just unsustainable as the server grew

i mean the people who added the problems and verified user-submitted solutions and managed the spreadsheet and assigned roles

[burnt dune]

ig shits realer than i thought

how do i self assign archive

[leaden torrent]

it was basically asking people to grade dozens of homework problems a week for free

[burnt dune]

thats the cool part, no

[delicate mulch]

also why was this a mod ping

[burnt dune]

alot of the problems can be solved by arguments u see in actual math textbooks

[burnt dune]

cool ty

[leaden torrent]

exclusive leaks on the sidebar

[surreal sapphire]

namington...

[sleek wing]

helpers lounge
HELLOOOO

[tight comet]

HELPERS LOUNGE!?

[leaden torrent]

the channel names are public info so it doesnt matter lmfao

you can get them with an API call

or with a third party extension

[surreal sapphire]

they arent public public

third party extension is against TOS

API calls are tech magic

[leaden torrent]

but API calls are not

[sleek wing]

MATH HELP (AVAILABLE)?!?!

[surreal sapphire]

see, you made wew excited

[tight comet]

[next schooner]

try being helpful init

[surreal sapphire]

so why can nami see it then

[leaden torrent]

nepotism

[delicate mulch]

namingtism

[odd narwhal]

nami is a filthy cheater

hey why am I not in the ivory tower

[tight comet]

That's not possible

[frail lagoon]

What even is ivory

Joking

[odd narwhal]

idk potato, seems like the admins are keeping secrets from us

[leaden torrent]

the secret to getting ivory access is to play umineko

trust

[frail lagoon]

Shin you shouldn't be in ivory anyway as a vegan

[frail lagoon]

Umineko

[swift sinew]

what the fuck is ivory

[sleek wing]

Thanks I was about to be really angry and say numerous naughty words at you

[odd narwhal]

I fucking hate you namington

[delicate mulch]

what is ivory

[odd narwhal]

❤️

[delicate mulch]

why don't I have access??

[odd narwhal]

no one likes you

[next schooner]

Who else wants to do the meme

[sleek wing]

imagine being in such a evil channel talking about the poaching of elephants

[odd narwhal]

weeb shit goes in #chill mr admin

[delicate mulch]

someone isnt following the no anime rule

[next schooner]

Pls gifsin chill

[forest jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/elephant-omg-funny-cat-bum-gif-6070345

[swift sinew]

!anime

[frail lagoon]

Why is #real-complex-analysis in advanced mathematics

[leaden torrent]

i think umineko is relevant to mathematics

i mean it explains what a contrapositive is

[frail lagoon]

That is the real drama

Jk it kinda makes sense

But it also early uni at same time

[leaden torrent]

intro group theory is

so

[frail lagoon]

Make 1000 chanesls

[leaden torrent]

so is real anal

[frail lagoon]

That is true lol

[swift sinew]

so you dont get "are imaginary numbers real" in there

[frail lagoon]

Group theory is hard though

[frail lagoon]

I guess this is controversial for 0 right?

Imaginary and real at once

[swift sinew]

0 isnt a number so

[leaden torrent]

intro groups is way easier than intro analysis since intro groups is literally "do u understand definitions" and "can u prove an implicational"

[frail lagoon]

Okay fair point

[leaden torrent]

whereas intro analysis sometimes requires like

constructing functions

that do something u want

and shit

[frail lagoon]

Isn't that all maths

Jk

[leaden torrent]

like the proof of MVT

[frail lagoon]

Hm I may have had a different experience of groups then

[sleek wing]

Thank goodness you said that I was about to get really angry and say naughty words

[frail lagoon]

But ye at first

Definitely just definition pushing

What should I cook for dinner guys

[swift sinew]

potato

[next schooner]

ye
wow kinda inappropriate potat

[frail lagoon]

I have kidney beans and rice

And onions

Hm

[next schooner]

Chili

Duh

[frail lagoon]

maybe could turn it into a chili if I buy more

[swift sinew]

kidney beans and rice and onion soup

[sleek wing]

Kanye…. LE B- oh wait…

[frail lagoon]

Lol

[sleek wing]

I had chilli for tea 2nite

[frail lagoon]

Ok

[swift sinew]

!anime

[frail lagoon]

I have lots of soybeans so gonna make some tofu soon

[sleek wing]

Ur so rude

[frail lagoon]

Peng

[next schooner]

Ugh discussy 2 feels weird i don't like it in here

[sleek wing]

This is basically ivory atm

[leaden torrent]

this is the new [redacted]

[next schooner]

Feels like I'm chatting behind a bikeshed

[leaden torrent]

nah modern ivory is too vanilla

[swift sinew]

its just cool kids disbanded

[sleek wing]

Yeah you’d know all about that

[next schooner]

U cut me deep

[swift sinew]

wew acting like he doesnt know the poverty life

[frail lagoon]

Just cause he's a northerner doesn't make him a povo

[odd narwhal]

is this a bikeshedding joke rat

[frail lagoon]

very classiest of u

*classist

[swift sinew]

yes i am a classiest

[sleek wing]

Ok so “behind the bikesheds” has vastly different implications to me than it does to you people

[frail lagoon]

To me it means like drugs or redacted

[odd narwhal]

I am a classicist

[next schooner]

Yeah

[sleek wing]

I am simply retrieving my bike

[next schooner]

Drugs and or redacted

[swift sinew]

oh is that why the anime command doesnt work here

[frail lagoon]

Lol

[next schooner]

Your bike goes in the shed not behind it

[sleek wing]

Your bike might

[odd narwhal]

I thought it was a bikeshedding joke

[next schooner]

What is bikeshedding

[sleek wing]

This, thoughbeit

[next schooner]

thoughbeit

[swift sinew]

thoughbeit is unhinged

[odd narwhal]

it's when you spend a disproportionate amount of time on trivial issues

[odd narwhal]

instead of the important stuff

[swift sinew]

cant relate

[odd narwhal]

it comes from a hypothetical example of a committee that is supposed to design a powerplant but spends too much time thinking about the materials for the staff bikeshed

[neon tundra]

Not even the materials, just which color to paint it.

[native grotto]

Hi, im seeking advice, and i was wondering if this is the right place to ask some questions. its not a particular math problem or anything like that.

[leaden torrent]

that's vague

you can ask questions here if they dont relate to any particular math topic

[native grotto]

ok well then yeah ill go ahead. Im at uni and my course doesnt have much math in it(biomed) and i picked a module that does. I failed my high school math pretty much and I have no mathematical literacy beyond basic arithmetic. I am quite overwhelmed and not sure how to learn everything i need to in correct order.

[neat lintel]

so, in a multiplayer game, if you give someone no power over the game it will feel not so exciting, but if you give everyone power the game is chaos and any decision has no impact ultimately will feel as if you dont have power. how to avoid this?

[deep fiber]

Embrace chaos

[neat lintel]

i want the players to feel as if their choices and decisions have great impact

[deep fiber]

Garry’s Mod

Chaoooss reigns

[neat lintel]

aint it singleplayer

i guess the absolute power is single player

[lavish kayak]

minecraft and its million mods seems to have a few solutions

[frigid shuttle]

do you like wittgenstein @supple flame

why

@supple flame do you reject mathematical platonism then?

you accept it?

[elder notch]

[open aspen]

Try khan academy?

Or pick a module (whatever that is) that has less math?

But if you're in a major that requires a biomed class, you're going to need to learn more than basic arithmetic at some point anyways

[tired sedge]

hey, is anyone here writing blog posts about STEM topics? How do you find the correct depth of a topic? Every time I'm thinking about writing stuff up that I learned or worked on, I somehow get lost in a rabbit hole of research and end up discarding it altogether. On the one hand I don't want want to cover stuff shallowly (e.g. the infamous medium post) but on the other hand I get overwhelmed by the depth the topic actual has and the more I look into it, the more incomplete my knowledge feels. Suddenly I have the unreasonable urge to "cover it all", but this quickly grows out of hand and then I just give up on it 😩

[devout nacelle]

I think it's a good idea to stick to a concrete idea of what you want to cover in a single post

For instance in mathematics it could be the proof of a certain technical theorem with expository padding, and then you have a pretty good idea of what all you want to talk about

If you pick a broad topic then you still might want to narrow down the sub-points or aspects you would like to talk about

And you might want to reasonably cut down a lot of technical fluff for overview type of posts, unless you plan to scatter them across several posts

[steep spindle]

Dose anybody knows that do always the three medians of the triangle pass at a same point?

is it yes?

[tall minnow]

yes it's call the barycenter / centroid

!help

[quasi jetty]

Please read #❓how-to-get-help

[steep spindle]

how to proove that a cyclic trapezium is a isosceles trapexium

[tall minnow]

read the rules

[neat lintel]

!help

[quasi jetty]

Please read #❓how-to-get-help

[neat lintel]

See i rly dont have that

[tall minnow]

see channels & roles -> browse channels

[leaden torrent]

this discord change has confused a lot of people

no clue why they implemented it like they did

[neat lintel]

Thnx got it

[burnt dune]

yoo

the shit you see with like sliding paths

homotopy over topology

turns out this shit is everywhere

not just with topology

lmfao

[frail lagoon]

wdym lol

[calm wharf]

Do any of you study math at Harvard, MIT, University of California, Santa Cruz or Wellesley College? (especially Harvard). I have a question for you. Just dm me or reply.

[untold sapphire]

This is the single actually funny joke i have ever made

[deep mango]

I did study math at UC Berkeley

I graduated though

Oh you said Santa Cruz

nevermind

[untold sapphire]

it's useful in complex analysis

helps you to compute line integrals.

[open aspen]

Oh yeah? Explain it then.

[shrewd ocean]

i'm not the one to say but combinatorics seems like such a niche topic

i don't think i've ever touched it in my life until now

i'm in grade 10th for context

especially when compared to algebra, geometry, and number theory

[neat lintel]

Try reading the Wikipedia article about it it's a lot broader than you probably think https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combinatorics

[neat lintel]

you know, i once heard someone say that combinators is apart of your everyday life, weather you realize it or not.

[static loom]

idk, depends on how charitable you want to be with interpreting that

did they give any examples

[open aspen]

Combinatorics is certainly not niche

Well I mean, depends on what you mean by niche I suppose. Any field of math that isn’t grade school algebra is niche on a global scale I suppose

[torn willow]

Well linear algebra and calc are also not niche

[frigid matrix]

combinatorics is not niche

[static loom]

every morning before I put on my clothes, I have to create a generating function for the rest of my week that tells me the possible amount of ways to wear them

[frigid matrix]

are you in gradschool?

[static loom]

combinatorics is an unignorable part of everyone's life

[torn willow]

I mean if you are thinking of combi as "counting", I believe it's everywhere in software engineering

[frigid matrix]

its everywhere in math research

there are lots of tools to solve enumerative problems using combinatorics

[open aspen]

Who is “you”

[frigid matrix]

and people in math love conversions of problems into enumerative or linear algebra questions

[torn willow]

the metaphorical you that exists everywhere but nowhere at the same time

[static loom]

let's face it, before the Weil Conjectures were proven, society was a mess

every time we use elliptic curve cryptography to secure our communications and money transfers, we rely on our cashiers double checking the parameters of NIST approved curves so that we feel safe

[torn willow]

Ideally software engineering is about counting things imo

[static loom]

even videogames are about counting, who didn't grow up as a kid contemplating ash ketchum's famous phrase regarding binomial coefficients and imaginary numbers

[neat lintel]

[frigid matrix]

oh

ttera hi

remember me?

big fan here 👋

[torn willow]

I mean traditional good JRPGs were about counting

"What's the ideal sequence of attacks to deal with this enemy group"

[fading pulsar]

so true

[neat lintel]

no

[neat lintel]

don't be

[torn willow]

"Is the ideal sequence sustainable"

And that mentality leads to item hoarding

[static loom]

this sounds more like analysis...

ideal sequences? like noetherianess?

[torn willow]

No, like "Fira-all, suplex, slash , slash"

Fira will take care of the weak enemies, suplex will destroy that one strong enemy

Slash will clean up the remaining

You can replace one slash with one crossbow to further improve cleanup

[frigid matrix]

if i remember correctly you are cool

[neat lintel]

my condolences

[torn willow]

Other sequences of attacks will make you spend more than 1 turn in a regular battle

[torn willow]

Also the order matters

[frigid matrix]

how do you like grad school so far ttera

[torn willow]

slash,suplex,fira-all and slash can fail

[neat lintel]

you really have no idea who i am

[frigid matrix]

i remember that you go to uoft

went?

[neat lintel]

happy birthday @cold needle !

[frigid matrix]

i remember u were diffgeo interested

if ur not grad school ur job?

[neat lintel]

no i'm still doing my undergraduate

[frigid matrix]

job after?

[neat lintel]

no

[frigid matrix]

!

what comes next?

[open aspen]

Undergrad forever

7th year babbyyyy

[neat lintel]

this

:)

[frigid matrix]

ur jking rn

[open aspen]

Tterra manifesting cv energy

[neat lintel]

not joking

at all

dead serious

[frigid matrix]

ur going to reapply to another undergrad?

ig why extend undergrad is my Q

[neat lintel]

personal reasons

[frigid matrix]

naruhodo

what math classes u taking nex sem

[neat lintel]

no clue

[weak cosmos]

hey guys

[dusty grove]

Hey

[molten crystal]

hey

[warm hare]

hey

[dusty grove]

You all doing great?

[ripe wasp]

bruh 💀

[long matrix]

<@&268886789983436800>

[sturdy quarry]

He left the server

[slim shale]

What if I have 2 (f) in math and I don't understand it .

What should I do?

stay for 2 years in the same class?

[neat lintel]

çok üzgünüm türkçem iyi değil ama ihtiyacın olan bir şey var mı haha?

Öyle mi? 😅 çok teşekkürler

hmm

hmm türkçe server ben de bilmiyorum maalesef 😭

teşekkürler çok tatlısın abla 🥲

sana arkadaşlık isteği göndereceğim haha

[elfin ridge]

Is it worth it to learn Turkish?

[neat lintel]

If u r not related to turkey in any way

no probably not

[elfin ridge]

Hmm

[neat lintel]

@deep mango hello ryc!

[long matrix]

wyc wyc

[neat lintel]

i came to you for advice, regarding MATLAB, since I kind of talked with you about it a month ago or something and u r the only person here who I know is familiar with it LMAO

[neat lintel]

shuwiii

[deep mango]

sure

[long matrix]

quit learning it

[deep mango]

but only if you stop replacing letters with w

[long matrix]

WHAT

NO

[neat lintel]

basically, i have this project coming up

i just started getting into matlab so i am really not sure how to start going about it, was just thinking to ask for advice on good resources to gain more knowledge for this and such 🤔

i mean my university is pretty strict with plagiarism

so thats probably an insta 0

[deep mango]

that's the matlab documentation!

how could you possibly not be allowed to use that

[neat lintel]

oh hmm alright

so that solves it

[deep mango]

i don't really know how to use matlab app designer

or anything about any of this

yeah that's just gonna translate the audio file to a signal

which you can do whatever you like with

they don't expect you to decode an audio file format

[neat lintel]

okay thats great because that's what i was most worried about

the fourier transform and signal manipulation seems easy enough

[deep mango]

these are probably the functions you actually want

https://www.mathworks.com/help/matlab/import_export/record-and-play-audio.html

[neat lintel]

alright thats great i will just mess around with those

user interface stuff seems pain but that should be tedious rather than hard i guess

[lost crane]

anyone know if theres somewhere i can find tasks for a 15/16 year old that i can do at home to get ready for engineering school?

[alpine kindle]

you might have more luck on an engineering server

[long matrix]

math server: build a bridge

[open aspen]

Build a trebuchet

[pseudo sleet]

[neat lintel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzrd1Xl6bHs&ab_channel=VasiliĭGlazunov this is good

[fresh patio]

Somehow I feel like I understand the material of this course to the point of being able to ace the exam but also like I know nothing about the subject

Never felt like that before and it's really weird

[neat lintel]

hmmm

[brittle socket]

rywwc

[abstract lion]

Just some fun parametric animations
https://youtu.be/Mwe2Q86YfF0

[static loom]

fun

[sharp cave]

CS imo, if you think you won't have the time/discipline to learn a language by yourself.

[torn willow]

Stats is more useful tho

[untold sapphire]

You think you can cleanly rank two completely different disciplines?

by "usefulness"?

[torn willow]

I mean for getting cs jobs, cs minor won't really be useful apart skill wise

It's all LC anyway

And if it's not LC, it's stats

[hasty leaf]

Yeet code

[torn willow]

I guess if you don't care about jobs, cs minor is fine

[hasty leaf]

Yeah stats very useful

[surreal sapphire]

what is LC

[hasty leaf]

Leet Code

[torn willow]

Leetcode

[hasty leaf]

Where people yeet code into the site lmao

[fading pulsar]

leetcode

[surreal sapphire]

never used

[fading pulsar]

most braindead shit ever

[hasty leaf]

Same

[fading pulsar]

just watch me not be able to solve any leetcode problems when I graduate tho

I haven't coded since I got into my internship last summer, been almost a year since I touched any code

only math since then

[torn willow]

If you have a shitty cs education, Leetcode is significantly more interesting than any of your education

[fading pulsar]

huh

I'm pretty sure a single class in cs

covers leetcode lol

don't you take like algorithms in your first semester or something

[hasty leaf]

Leetcode uni ? Lmao

[fading pulsar]

Where you go through something like CLRS

[torn willow]

It doesn't

Yeah but for me,it was just "sorting"

[fading pulsar]

bruh

wtf

[torn willow]

Yeah that's a trash book(for learning) for me

Well I had a second algorithms class

Where it was about memorizing random af algorithms

[fading pulsar]

Randomized Algorithms?

That's a good class

[torn willow]

No

I mean we don't get Randomized algorithms

I mean like "here's Fibonacci heap. Memorize the operations"

[fading pulsar]

[hasty leaf]

Linear Congrential easiest Random number algo

[torn willow]

"Done. Now do it for binomial heap"

Repeat ad infinitum

[hasty leaf]

So it was a slog

[torn willow]

Yeah it was boring

And like CLRS isn't much better lmao

[hasty leaf]

Could have been a geology class memorize types of rocks

[fading pulsar]

do codeforces

[torn willow]

Well tbh geology is more interesting than algorithms

Because it's way more than memorizing random crap

[hasty leaf]

Yeah can be I took one intro course

[torn willow]

Well ig algorithms could be a decent class

In an ideal uni

[hasty leaf]

Hiked up volcano lmao and lost Shoe sole

[torn willow]

But like you don't need it for Leetcode

[fading pulsar]

Just do codeforces with me

you can do any leetcode you want if you do codeforces

[hasty leaf]

What code forces?

[fading pulsar]

https://codeforces.com/

[hasty leaf]

Team effort yeet coding

[torn willow]

True

But CF is like a skillset I do not care abouy

[fading pulsar]

If all you want is a job

[torn willow]

Although it's fun and mathematical ig

[fading pulsar]

i don't see what is hard about leetcode

[torn willow]

It's not hard

[fading pulsar]

then you have nothing to worry about

study system design

[torn willow]

It's also about crap cs people care about that codeforces folks don't care about

[surreal sapphire]

honestly doubt leetcode prepares for the standard programmer job

[torn willow]

Like CF questions just never care about pointers because there are better ways of representing stuff

[surreal sapphire]

or any job lmao

[torn willow]

It absolutely does not

[surreal sapphire]

well, it shows you can go and study some stuff

[icy oracle]

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[surreal sapphire]

and i guess doubles as an intelligence test

[icy oracle]

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[surreal sapphire]

uh

[icy oracle]

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[surreal sapphire]

are you ok?

[fading pulsar]

He's a troll

[icy oracle]

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[fading pulsar]

just ban

[surreal sapphire]

please review the #rules

and read the channel topics

[icy oracle]

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[fading pulsar]

Also, yea leetcode is irrelevant

[surreal sapphire]

ill mute you until you are sober

[icy oracle]

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[fading pulsar]

(for job skills)

[static loom]

I suppose it at least shows a baseline level of competence in programming to be able to do them, and some enthusiasm for programming maybe

[fading pulsar]

A lot of it is unfortunately just maintaining codebase

[static loom]

I'd like to hire people who sort of enjoy the skill they're being paid to do

[hasty leaf]

Yeah been in a few jobs like that

[surreal sapphire]

i mean yeah, many companies also do general intelligence tests

that have nothing to do with the job

i guess its hard to design a good selection test

[fading pulsar]

I went through 4 rounds of interviews for my last internship and didn't do algorithms at all on the internship lol

just handling jira tickets

[hasty leaf]

Practical

[fading pulsar]

it was fun though

4 days remote, 1 day in person, and they have food provided + 1 floor cafe/1 floor game room

I just checked out after the daily standups

[hasty leaf]

Scrum

[fading pulsar]

I ended up just doing math on the remote days

[hasty leaf]

Maintenance of code bases alot less stressful sometimes than starting something from scratch and having management mandated deadlines...been in both situations

Yeah do hobbies

Work not fulfilling a lot of times

[torn willow]

Ok depends on what you prefer then

[fading pulsar]

No one knows what you will find fun

Try both I guess

You can just read a text in stats

Or try programming

Probability is pretty different from stats

Oh stat department nvm