#book-recommendations

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static crest
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just after

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true

desert copper
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lol

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Am I the only one who finds full stops intimidating

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Full stop.

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Finality. Is. Here.

static crest
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.

desert copper
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Pathetic

storm harness
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-9.223

gray gazelle
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thats a joke right?

manic fox
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what a chad, ultra

hasty turret
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Which website is thism

timber ravine
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Is this off-topic?

gray gazelle
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🤮

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typeracer

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i'm joking

broken meadow
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rokabe...

sage python
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It is but I guess it hasn't been off topic for too long/it did spawn from something on topic. Generically though yeah this is a books channel

gray gazelle
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Tofuria

fading helm
mint sparrow
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Contemporary Abstract Algebra [Gallian] and Abstract Algebra - An Introduction [Hungerford] are both very approachable and standards 🙂

icy frost
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we literally have the same high score lmao

static crest
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gallian

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dont

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don't do it

livid ermine
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what is a better intro?

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aluffi or d&f?

whole rain
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rotman

livid ermine
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Is it? "Advanced Modern Algebra"?

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It seems quite, hmm, advanced, for a first book.

whole rain
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no

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the introductory text

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first course in abstract algebra

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from rotman

static crest
# livid ermine aluffi or d&f?

d&f is better if you want like as easy to understand explanation as it gets. If you want to be category theory-pilled along the way, aluffi. They're both fairly approachable as intro texts

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d&f does have the downside of being really boring

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for many

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if you have a short attention span, maybe don't go for d&f

whole rain
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(it is boring hmmCat)

livid ermine
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i think aluffi is funny. rotman seems based and funny-pilled as well

static crest
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I personally like d&f > aluffi, since I find aluffi shoehorns category theory needlessly

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and d&f has the best exercises

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I've seen from the (intro) algebra tbs I have seen

prisma snow
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Avoid DF

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Rotman is based

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AMA is about the same level as DF tbh

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But maybe it's group theory content isn't as beginner friendly, so you can start with the first course one

desert copper
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kind of cliche but 20000 leagues under the sea

fading helm
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ive read that lol

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im looking for new

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kinda unpopularish

desert copper
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oof I can’t suggest anything then

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I guess you’ve read around the world in eighty days too

primal chasm
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Hello guys, which book on topology should I choose as a beginner?

calm crane
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munkres

gray gazelle
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munkres

primal chasm
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Thanks! What so special about this book?

gray gazelle
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it's good

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a bit dry

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but comprehensive, covers pretty much all of the important general topology you should know

primal chasm
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Thank you! I like more dry and formal study material, so that's cool

glossy grove
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Do you know where one could get a physical copy of Munkres that isn't 300$?

crystal lion
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i know this idea is really fucked

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but is there some service

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where if you send them a pdf (of some random tb)

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they'll make a hard copy of it

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and send it to you

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basically like a scuffed publisher

willow pecan
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A printer

crystal lion
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no but

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stitch the book together and all the stuff

willow pecan
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A print shop

crystal lion
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yea but

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are they comfortable with doing that

glossy grove
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But I want to acquire that book legally. Maybe that's my problem though 0.0

crystal lion
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legal issues and stuff

willow pecan
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I see the hardcover of munkres for $90 on Amazon

quick hornet
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as an undergrad, i printed full textbooks off my uni printing service and they didnt bat an eye

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just collected their $15 printing fee and sent me on my way

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your mileage may vary ofc

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but i dont think theyre paid enough to care

glossy grove
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It says 25$ 0.0

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But it doesn't deliver to my location.

willow pecan
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Yes I see the paperback for $25

quick hornet
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if youre really concerned, tell them the text is freely available on the prof's website or whatever

willow pecan
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Oh rip

quick hornet
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i dont think theyll bother to check

glossy grove
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I am really confused. Don't they print Munkres anymore at all?

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If so, why?

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I killed the chat stare

willow pecan
storm harness
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Bruh with how costly these books seem to be in the US it would be better to order some other country's version and get it smuggled through relatives or something

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Indian versions are way cheaper (but also illegal to sell outside India, big scam)

split bluff
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libgen/scihub it bruh

glossy grove
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It's cheap, but I am not sure if it lives up to Munkres.

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One great thing about this book is, though, that all the exercises have solutions.

willow pecan
ripe granite
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HOLY SHIT WUT

gray gazelle
gray gazelle
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i hope everybody knew this, i always like getting springer books for $25

slim peak
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Bruh what the actual fuck ?

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How to benefit of it ?

gray gazelle
slim peak
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I will buy a entire library

gray gazelle
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but i have also noticed springer website is fucky as hell, and half the times i cannot buy the book

slim peak
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Can some one send some picture and give me a feed back on the quality ?

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"German, Dutch, and French language titles are currently excluded." monkaS

gray gazelle
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quality is not bad at all for the ones i've gotten. paper quality is somewhere between international edition books (the type where if you use it for too long it naturally starts to tear) and normal springer books, although i would say closer to normal springer books. i've never had pages fall out or anything of that sort. the worst i've had is pages that were bent/not cut properly, and some minor shipping damage due to not being a hardcover

slim peak
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Thanks a lot

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so i will purchase msot of my books this way and very important ones in hardcover I think

gray gazelle
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👍 the thing i said about paper quality is hard to say too anyway, since hardcover springers do not all have the same type of paper (some are close to the mycopy versions that i have, and similarly the mycopys that i have do not all have the same type of paper. actually maybe i'm imagining the differences in the mycopys that i have, not sure)

slim peak
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I noticed that on books from the 90s and more recent books.

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I 'm currently doing the dumbest thing of my entire life

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My whole salary haha go brrrr

storm sleet
smoky surge
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thats a weird way to say you z-lib

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interesting

slim peak
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Some books just don't want to load the page for buying the softcover digitally printed book

gray gazelle
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yeah, for whatever reason their website is a piece of shit

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you will probably encounter other issues as well 🙂

slim peak
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I already bought 3 books

storm sleet
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I just had an issue where it said it took me "too long to finish order"

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I got charged, so if it doesn't come I'm complainin

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they get 3 weeks 😦

slim peak
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No problem for :

  • H.Bahouri, J.-Y.Chemin, R.Danchin. Fourier Analysis and Nonlinear Partial Differential Equations
  • J.Bergh, J.Löfström. Interpolation Spaces
  • T.Kato. Perturbation Theory for Linear Operators
    Impossible for me to load the order page for :
  • J.Jost. Riemannian Geometry and Geometric Analysis
  • M.Haase.The functional calculus for sectorial operators
storm sleet
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No Problem for Neukirch ANT, which is like, 1/7 the price or something absurd

gray gazelle
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hm, mycopy doesn't show up at all for me right now

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ah nvm, i just needed to log in

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fwiw, of the 4 pages, "login, address, order, payment", i can get to "payment" part, when i go to buy the jost book

slim peak
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What the fuck

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After something like 40 attempts it worked for Jost's book

storm sleet
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Should I be concerned I got charged and it said it didn't succeed?

gray gazelle
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catshrug i would probably call them if i don't get an email confirmation that you made an order within a few days

storm sleet
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Oh I did get it, but it went to a weird email lmao

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Honestly, Neukirch legit legal copy for $25

proud locust
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Doodododododo

storm sleet
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Fuckin steal

proud locust
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Guys what's the best book for number theory

storm sleet
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What kind?

proud locust
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The proof one

storm sleet
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Elementary, Algebraic, analytic, etc

proud locust
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Uhh

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Algebraic

storm sleet
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Are you new to number theory in general?

proud locust
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Yes

storm sleet
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Do you have any background in abstract algebra?

proud locust
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Nope

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I only know a little linear algebra

storm sleet
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The server #books-old channel recommends Burton, but I've heard people also recommend: Andrews, Hardy&Wright and a few others

proud locust
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Oki thx

storm sleet
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but I've heard Burton is hit or miss. I recommend Andrews bc its a Dover book so its cheap asf

proud locust
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I see

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Perfect

smoky surge
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has anyone here read deep learning by ian goodfellow

stray folio
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I plan to

slim peak
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I have bought all the other available books, but Hasse's book still doesnot work when I click on the MyCopy button

gray gazelle
storm sleet
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Can't speak for everyone, but most of the time the big factor for me is price

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I've bought several texts for basically nothing compared to their list price, just by getting used international copies

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Print quality is a big issue most of the time, but its certainly easier to read than digital copies (for me)

slim peak
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Not a scam lol

manic fox
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hmmmm

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@ mods ban this toxic presence

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i clicked the buy ebook one and got no error hmmCat

slim peak
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And an empty Bank account

manic fox
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got tricked once again

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smh

slim peak
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Without joking

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you must to be logged with you University

gray gazelle
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i get an error as well

manic fox
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o hm hmmCat

slim peak
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(I already tried a different browser)

gray gazelle
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i usually just wait a few days/weeks/a month and try again when i get an error, so far it has worked

slim peak
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won't sleep until I bought this fucking book

manic fox
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why do u need it so bad hmmm

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you can always resort to

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the library that shall not be named

slim peak
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I have the PDF copy

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but it feels really uncomfortable to me to read on my screens

manic fox
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yeah, fair

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same opencry

slim peak
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I prefer Deforestation

manic fox
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that's very based of you

slim peak
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well thanks a lot

narrow talon
vagrant sedge
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Hi. What are some good problems books on optimization, numerical methods, computational mathematics? (no need for all of that in one book, of course =D).

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Of course there are the several books on the subjects that have problem sections, like Kincaid and Cheney numerical analysis book

willow pecan
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For numerical linear algebra, I would recommend Demmel's Linear Algebra

willow pecan
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For numerical odes/pdes, Iserles is popular

vagrant sedge
willow pecan
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I also really like LeVeque's Numerical Methods for Conservation Laws

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Which is a bit more limited in scope

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But self-contained

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LeVeque has another book on finite difference methods

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Saad has a book on iterative methods for sparse linear systems

vagrant sedge
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Cool. Thanks. I only had heard about the last one.

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LeVeque's one I mean hehe

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Thank you 🙂

willow pecan
vagrant sedge
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Any suggestions for optimization books with interesting problems?

willow pecan
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No clue, my optimization class didn't use a book

humble mortar
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can some one rate this book on whether its a good book or not

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i own a physical copy too

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this is one of the books that i was searching for to give me a taste of "advanced" math

sudden kindle
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Looks good

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I didnt look to closely

humble mortar
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does it cover everything needed for analysis?

broken meadow
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this is an introduction to proofs book

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i would only use it to try proving a handful of exercises using the methods they outline

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and then after that you can go directly into an analysis text or a linear algebra text and try proving things

gray gazelle
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jump right into hartshorne

broken meadow
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Don't do that

hasty turret
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Don't listen to the message above

humble mortar
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i dont know what hatshorne is

gray gazelle
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hartshorne fartshorne

hasty turret
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It's a geometry book

gray gazelle
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it has a touch of algebra too, exciting!

hasty turret
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There's also a pure geometry book

willow pecan
calm crane
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hartshrone is a great book!

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i highly recommend it

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a good supplement is EGA and SGA

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great for geometry!

humble mortar
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i just want to learn math that is necessary for finances and python

calm crane
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python needs no math

gray gazelle
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the data science article

humble mortar
calm crane
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all you need to know

humble mortar
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you need it

calm crane
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is how to lambda memes

humble mortar
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besides im a math minor

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i want to learn as much as possible during undergrad years

gray gazelle
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hartshorne'll do that to ya

humble mortar
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besides i know the data article is a meme

gray gazelle
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i only heard about it through a super secret server message

humble mortar
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honestly the first 5 chapters of this book are easy

gray gazelle
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of hartshorne? damn, you should tell chmonkey

humble mortar
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no

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intro to proofs

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lol hartshorn

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what are the applications bruh? thonkzoom

gray gazelle
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Can anybody recommend a book which will give me a basic idea of Mathematics? And make me not fear it

humble mortar
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its listed above

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intro to proofs

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honestly for that book you only need algebra 2 and a bit of calc

smoky surge
livid ermine
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@smoky surge I've worked through part 1 and 2.

smoky surge
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Did you like it?

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I know some of the reviews have been mixed but I think that’s cause people expected applied stuff and it’s not

livid ermine
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It is quite dry and theoretical. I think you need to put a lot of effort into creating your own exercises to get the max out of it.

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yeah.

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I think it's good at explaining the core concepts in a pretty mathematically rigorous fashion

smoky surge
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Yea that’s kinda what I’m looking for thanks

narrow talon
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I understand, but either way if you feel like following along for a bit it’s no burden

smoky surge
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id just feel bad itll be closer to you teaching me than mutual helping

slim peak
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An interesting information is that it seems the books you can purchase for 25 USD/EUR are only the books your University/organization have already purchased.

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(does not slve my problem about the specific book I want, but it explain why some books are still not available

pale scarab
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What are some good math puzzle books?

gray gazelle
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idk but heres a puzzle for you since you like puzzles: try to find a good math puzzle book

sage python
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To bird a Killing form

gray gazelle
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To mock a mockingmock.

dapper root
hasty turret
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To kill a killingkill

warm socket
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to form a modular bird

slim peak
manic fox
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studio bigger

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studio smaller

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studio you are being contacted by an unknown caller

wintry edge
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I need to practice some NP-complete reductions for my exam. Anyone know of any good resources containing problems, solutions, examples... ?I've already looked through two books on the theory of computation, but perhaps there are some good notes,solved problem sets I'm missing on the web.

still jay
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Not a recommendation, but I found some bourbaki books in the wild. Just thought it was cool :p

prisma snow
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Steal them for me

hearty steppe
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Oh nice you have Pinter

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Lol all those Bourbaki books tho

gray gazelle
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burn them

mint sparrow
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Forget the Bourbaki!

gray gazelle
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Tao is boring, me snoring.

slim peak
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Because algebra books are kind of very heavy and hard to follow if I remember

molten wave
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hmm

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PDE hours or programming hours

storm sleet
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Programming

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But only in Dependently typed languages

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Idris Coq Lean or Agda

willow pecan
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PDE programming hours

static crest
sage python
willow pecan
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I would like to know as well

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Tbh

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I might be convinced to care more about microlocal analysis if you can get better numerical schemes from it

sage python
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Tfw not taking my bait

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😦

willow pecan
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What was the bait

sage python
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Oh it was another PDE \subset microlocal analysis joke

willow pecan
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Oh those are so last month

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Dami please

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At least make the bait good

sage python
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Old but gold

willow pecan
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What a straight thing to say

sage python
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Lol

willow pecan
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This is not very impressive

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In my opinion

slim peak
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I didnt say it would

willow pecan
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This is barely even microlocal analysis

slim peak
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oscillatory integrals more precisely

willow pecan
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And the pdes being considered are all linear

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.....

slim peak
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No

willow pecan
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linearized water-waves system

slim peak
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Actually yes

willow pecan
slim peak
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But they were for the non-linear system use

willow pecan
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I also don't see any discussion of error

slim peak
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Is just a "to see" stuff

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It was not deep discussion

willow pecan
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Sure

slim peak
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but the discussion was not directly linked with the numerical stuff

cosmic path
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Books on astrophysics at a basic level? (I’m in high school. But I’m also advanced for my grade)

willow pecan
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Do you know classical mechanics?

cosmic path
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Not really

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Wait maybe

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I know a lot about QM, GR, and a tad of M-Theory

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Not a whole lot about the more technical side of things (force, acceleration, etc)

willow pecan
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What is your background in math?

cosmic path
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I’m in high school rn, so not extensive. I’m 1 level below AP Calculus (I’ll be taking that next year)

willow pecan
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Ok so what do you mean when you say you know a lot about QM and GR?

cosmic path
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I’ve read a few Steven Hawking books, and I have a book I’m reading rn called “Quantum Mechanics made easy”

static crest
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how does one know literally any QM or GR before they've even done the equivalent of AP calc

willow pecan
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Ok

static crest
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that's certainly a claim

willow pecan
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So it's more pop-sci understanding

cosmic path
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Idk. I don’t know the fundamentals I guess, I mostly know the laws and such

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Keep in mind, I’m in high school. I’m not an expert on this subject by any means

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I just want an easy read explaining the stuff further in depth

willow pecan
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This sounds good

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I looked through the table of contents

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Also it sounds like when you've been learning physics you haven't been doing any calculations

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Or computations

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This book also has some exercises and stuff

cosmic path
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Cool!

willow pecan
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And doing computations is important

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Computations and intuition feed each other

cosmic path
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Ight

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Thank you!

slow matrix
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should I finish Rudin's PMA, or can I just complete halfway, before moving on to real and complex analysis? advice for self-taught person plz.

calm crane
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it's prob useful to read till ch 8

slow matrix
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oh ok, I just sometime feel like uhh.. bored? what's that feeling where you frustratingly slowly trudging through shallow water... maybe I should keep going while peeking at other stuffs from time to time to keep the motivation.

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btw are you in college already now? @calm crane

calm crane
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nop still high svh

calm crane
slim peak
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Does someone have a good Algebraic Topology book for Analyst ? I need some insights about stuff related to betti numbers (needed for understanding properties of opensets in Riemannian Manifolds)

slate quarry
prisma snow
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What's chapter 9?

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Ah

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Duistermaat has intrigued me

narrow talon
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Is it actually bad? I’ve never actually read it tbh and I think most just take on faith that it’s bad

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Rudin Real and Complex, as much as I like it, is pretty much illegible on a first read unless you put in a ton of effort

willow pecan
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Rudin is a disaster of pedagogy

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Oh no

prisma snow
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Lol

broken meadow
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huh

sage python
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This is decipherable? But yeah Rudin chapter 9 is where it breaks down

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I feel like you just need to assume people know linear algebra at that point lol, or full blown teach it

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The half-assed run through isn't a great idea

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Well that's why I followed up lol

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My "this is decipherable" was re "so incomprehensible"

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But I do think at that point you read something else like Spivak Calc on Manifolds

gray gazelle
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Hi, do you know any online mathematical library?

slate quarry
gray gazelle
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Wow

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Nice

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Thanks a lot

slate quarry
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You're welcome ☺️

gray gazelle
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The integral calc book looks nice

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I'll read it from now on

calm crane
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honestly for rudin

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the real analysis part is good

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when he tries to go to like multivar manifoldy stuff

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too too dense read another book

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the later chapters seems to only be useful when you start like func anal tbh

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or measure theory but any reasonable intro book will intro

gray gazelle
calm crane
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tao is a bit

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too slow for my tastes

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personally analysis stuff i usually just like see a theorem, decide if it is trivial by inequality spam and then skip the proof in the book opencry

gray gazelle
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You like being fast

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fast and bulbous

umbral yoke
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opinions on resources for commutative algebra (in preparation for algebraic geometry)?

dense pewter
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There’s a book called “commutative algebra with a view toward algabraic geometry” by eisenbud I think

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Or maybe eisenbud and someone else

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May be useful

narrow talon
calm crane
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LOL

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idk

storm sleet
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Eisenbud is dense

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In terms of actual mass and words

flat sinew
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Hello! What are some good analytic number theory books? I realise my uni doesn’t have any analytic number theory courses

umbral yoke
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People have liked Apostol's Introduction to Analytic Number Theory, though I am not a fan of how much he avoids the Euler product in early chapters
I liked Murtry's Problems in Analytic Number Theory, but it is a bit of a time investment because much of the theory is developed on your own
I have also read some of https://faculty.math.illinois.edu/~hildebr/ant/ and liked it

flat sinew
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Thanks! I’ll check them out 🥳

sage python
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Apostol's supposed to be good yeah. I guess depending on what you're looking for

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My analytic NT class this fall will use "Multiplicative Number Theory" by Davenport

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Also there's more automorphic formsy stuff

storm sleet
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Is Davenport better?

sage python
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Idk if it's better I haven't used either

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I just know that my class this fall is gonna use it

storm sleet
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Ahh

karmic thorn
hearty steppe
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I mean I feel like Abbott is the best first exposure but you need more depth so I lean towards Schroeder and Apostol for that currently

marble solar
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I really like Terry's analytic number theory notes

storm sleet
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I’m planning on doing Apostle this summer

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I’m gonna be reading atiyah commutative algebra, apostle number theory and something else this summer

remote ginkgo
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rudin or hardy for analysis
riemann or artin for analytic number theory

storm sleet
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Oh! I’m also reading the first and maybe second books in the princeston lectures on analysis

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Fourier analysis and complex analysis

marble solar
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skip the complex one

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The fourier one is good

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Learn complex elsewhere

hasty turret
marble solar
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Stein and Shakarchi is bad for complex

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There are many good complex books

manic fox
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;hmmmcat;

storm sleet
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Our complex course uses it, but I also have conways first book

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I wanted something a bit more rigorous than the undergrad engineering focus one I have, and more rigorous than Needham

sage python
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Stein is eh

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FOr complex

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It's fine but not great

sage python
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Idk Conway tbh

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What's the deal with that?

marble solar
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Terry's 246A notes are actually good

marble solar
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More than he likes analysis, also too slow

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He does a lot of real analytic shit

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Terry's notes are good. I haven't really seen good complex analysis stuff

storm sleet
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I’m also an algebra oriented person

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If that makes any difference

sage python
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Freitag seems to be good for number theory

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Narasimhan and Schlag are more topology/geometry

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People here seem to like Marshall? @marble solar can comment on that

marble solar
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It's a good book with a different approach

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I mainly used it for the stuff on surfaces

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That part was excellent

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The other parts look good too, but I've heard mixed things

storm sleet
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To expand a bit, my interest in complex analysis is only insofar as it would be beneficial to studying algebraic and analytic number theory, as well as AG

timber mesa
manic fox
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yes

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i hate algebra.

marble solar
sage python
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Does he have them in a nicely written up form?

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Or just like splashed on his blog

storm sleet
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If not, transcribing them could be good practice

sage python
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Ehhhhhhhhh

gray gazelle
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Give me...

sage python
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Hmm @marble solar so I'm reading through some more spectral theory

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One of the references is Barry Simon

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"A Comprehensive Course in Analysis"

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and holy shit

manic fox
#

le khudai tatti has arrived

warm glen
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did y'all know anthony knapp has a real analysis book on his website

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i wonder if it's any good since i heard his algebra book is quite nice

sage python
#

Knapp strikes me as a good writer

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I wanna read his rep theory of semismiple groups book

warm glen
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rep theory sounds cool

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i can't wait to get to that part in artin

sage python
#

It's good shit

karmic thorn
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For a moment I processed khudai as something dug up from ground

manic fox
#

imagine not having a kh in your language

karmic thorn
#

ख़

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There

manic fox
#

can't read it so therefore it doesn't exist

narrow talon
hushed spindle
#

Can I recommend any book here?

sage python
#

Yup lol

harsh talon
#

reading list from cambride for undergrads

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really like the format

livid ermine
#

Have anyone heard of the book "Metrics, Norms, Inner Products, and Operator Theory" by Christopher Heil?

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I was wondering what you would call such a book. Is it analysis?

willow pecan
#

Sounds like hilbert space theory

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So yes, analysis

livid ermine
willow pecan
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Yes this is functional analysis

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Nothing weird going on

livid ermine
#

ok

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thanks

slate quarry
#

Have you read 'The book of proof', by Hammack? is it good for beginners?

broken meadow
#

its an ok book

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does its job

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light read too

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🤷‍♀️

humble mortar
broken meadow
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eh its just okay

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i mean like

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it's for intro to proofs

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so like

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im not totally sure if there is a "wrong" choice

manic fox
#

i don't think u shud be reading intro proof books

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imo it's a waste of time

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learn as u go

static crest
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based and correct

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learn proofs as you learn lin alg

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the ideal proof learning technique

broken meadow
#

tfw college requires math student to take intro proofs for a semester pepega

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wasted my fall semester

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could have been doing linear algebra then but noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

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its watever ig

humble mortar
#

huh what a coincidence then

slate quarry
# static crest learn proofs as you learn lin alg

I've been told that proof writing skills are a prerequisite to learn linear algebra. Personally, since I'm not very good at math (in fact, I would describe myself as a 'math patzer') I don't mind reading a proof writing book if it makes things easier for me in the future.

static crest
#

it's just, wtf kinda proofs are you gonna write anyways before

prisma snow
#

I mean, if you don't know how to write proofs, it will take you longer to learn whatever you are learning. So if it's for a course you are taking, you might fall behind. But if you are just studying on your own anyway, you may as well just learn some math while you learn proofs since you can take your time anyway.

static crest
#

you'll just be grinding shitty proofs that will make you bored out of your mind

manic fox
#

^

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like look

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there are 3-4 techniques you spam

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Contradiction, contrapositive, induction, direct proof

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Most of the stuff u need comes from these few methods

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there are cringe ones like transfinite induction but you don't really need that until you're doing more advanced stuff pepega

static crest
#

transfinite induction is just induction

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except instead of naturals, you just use some well ordered set

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or some shit

manic fox
#

Well yes, but instead of doing just the n -> n+1 step you also do a "normal" ordinals to limit ordinal step iirc

prisma snow
#

Strong induction+

humble mortar
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down back 2

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electric

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forward forward 2

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wave dash

hearty steppe
#

Aye I found a copy of Trudeau’s Intro graph theory book and Halmos’ Boolean algebra in a Barnes and nobles. I may get both sometime in future. Not really studying graph theory at the moment but Trudeau looks good

gray gazelle
#

damn, the pm of canada wrote a graph theory book?

static crest
#

he was a math teacher once

slow matrix
#

ok, thnx for the tips. I heard for multivar calculus part some people recommend spivak calc on manifolds

south ferry
# manic fox there are 3-4 techniques you spam

i found it very useful to do logic in my first semester, where we had introduction and application? rules
the only downside is that it makes proofs waaay too structured, so i end up just writing kinda proof assistant looking proofs PepeLaugh

manic fox
south ferry
#

also induction is just structural induction hmmCat

manic fox
#

i just learned along the way

south ferry
#

which is in fact the only proof technique you need for pl hmmCat

#

"use induciton on length, consider the following 17 cases, this concludes the proof"

manic fox
#

le every proof i do these days it seems has arrived

hearty steppe
#

It’s a small book but I like the structure of it

dapper root
broken meadow
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that's correct

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so

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the worst thing is that like

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i started college "earlier"

willow pecan
#

"earlier"

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Considerable

broken meadow
#

i opted to start college in the summer semester before because i knew that i would have some BS courses to knock out

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and yes, i did knock out a humanities requirement and some other one too

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BUT

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i could not get into the intro proofs course which was infuriating

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cus i knew that had to happen

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and so summer was a perfect time to do it

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but of course it didn't work and i didn't think to figure out who to email or whatever

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eh

#

it doesn't matter i guess

#

i take many classes now

willow pecan
#

motel takes a considerable number of classes

broken meadow
#

yes

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in conclusion i am not really mad

#

since i figured out how to play the scheduling game anyway

#

now all that remains is to keep taking courses while trying not to explode

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yeah

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that's the big one

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burnout

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it's scary

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i think i found my limit this past spring semester though

#

i see

wide meteor
#

anyone know any good number theory texts?

broken meadow
#

oh no

willow pecan
#

I've definitely had semesters where I overloaded myself

#

They were bad

broken meadow
#

right

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hmm

#

yeah i need to relax more yes

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go to gym

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and stuf

willow pecan
#

mniip in shambles

broken meadow
#

lmao

#

ye

sage python
#

@wide meteor what kind of number theory?

sudden kindle
#

@sage python what are you reading in the summer

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You wanna try reading the ergodic theory textbook together? pandaWow

sage python
#

I'm gonna meet with my advisor this Friday and get an idea of what I want to do

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There's a lot of stuff I have in mind lol

sudden kindle
#

Ok

#

If you're gonna read the ergodic theory book lemme know. A reading group would be nice :)

sage python
#

Will do!

broken meadow
wide meteor
sage python
#

@wide meteor Try Neukirch or Milne's notes

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For more elementary number theory with an algebraic flavor, people seem to like Ireland and Rosen

manic fox
#

why are there so many ppl with the same name in math

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i always thought milne and milnor were the same ppl

sudden kindle
wide meteor
#

ty

shut grail
sudden kindle
#

O nice

sullen horizon
#

What are the pre-requisites for abstract algebra?

manic fox
#

know how to write a proo

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*proof

sullen horizon
#

Where can I learn that?

manic fox
#

well u can pick it up tbh

#

Do you know the very basics?

sullen horizon
#

Yes

manic fox
#

Yeah you'll pretty much be spamming the standard four methods of proof hmmCat

sullen horizon
#

Any books where I can learn to write proofs?

manic fox
#

i don't recommend those books

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i feel they are a waste of time hmmCat

#

And not very interesting at that

gray gazelle
#

hammack, book of proofs

manic fox
#

Just try reading D&F, see whether u can handle it hmmCat

patent ibex
#

Yeah, if you really need to you can skim through a book on proofs

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D&F might be hard but there are a lot of algebra books written for a complete beginner

prisma snow
#

I second Glenn's opinion. If you're going to struggle to learn proofs anyway, you may as well learn the math you want to in the process.

#

Wow

manic fox
#

D&F
Hard

prisma snow
#

I unsecond Glenn's opinion because they recommended DF

patent ibex
#

I mean it depends on your background right

manic fox
#

Well hmmCat

sullen horizon
#

What about fraleigh?

manic fox
#

i mean there are barely any good contendors imo

#

for an AA textbook

gray gazelle
#

knapp

manic fox
#

not good hypersully

sullen horizon
#

I am currently in high school so I don't have much mathematical background...

manic fox
#

yea it's fine

#

I am in HS too hmmm

gray gazelle
#

yea same me = stoopido

#

yeah Glenn is in HS too ,

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she is learning AA rn

prisma snow
#

Rotman is the only good AA book. But I have heard Pinter takes things slow and is good for beginners. So it might be slower on the proofs. So I recommend Pinter, even tho I haven't read it.

manic fox
#

I'm mirza stop referring to me as glenn this is unnerving kekw

prisma snow
#

No, glenn

gray gazelle
#

Glenn

manic fox
#

Oh fuck no pinter only covers isomorphisms at like

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chatper 10

prisma snow
#

If you call yourself glenn, we will too

manic fox
#

which is like hypersully

prisma snow
#

Oh, I didn't know lol

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But who cares about isomorphisms

manic fox
gray gazelle
#

@sullen horizon check pins , scroll to the bottom to see a pin by Sloth Daminark

sullen horizon
#

Thanks

whole rain
prisma snow
#

Oh

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Right

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Tru

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Use that

whole rain
gray gazelle
prisma snow
#

If Rotman has written a book on a topic, all other books about that topic are cancelled.

whole rain
#

I didn't think I'd ever say that, but I agree with Luna here

#

feels weird to be wrong

prisma snow
#

Le surprise francais

whole rain
#

lol

#

stop sullying Luna, they're right stare

prisma snow
#

It's okay. Sullying me is like a selfsully.

#

It says more about them than me

whole rain
gray gazelle
#

What's the best book for Olympiad geometry?

whole rain
#

Evan chen's book ?

gray gazelle
whole rain
#

And there's some problem with it ? hmmm

gray gazelle
whole rain
#

Idk any book more understaandable than Chen's book tbh, but idk a lot of oly resources, I'll let someone else answer hmmm

gray gazelle
whole rain
shut grail
# sudden kindle O nice

IKR. He’s passed away now unfortunately. But one of my current professor’s was really close to him back then and references/talks about Marcus all the time ahaha.

cobalt arch
#

Any PDFs that list most types of matrices? It would come in handy.

willow pecan
#

There is a matrix cookbook

cobalt arch
#

Thanks I will check it out:)

willow pecan
#

Lowkey this is like

#

The most useful pdf

gray gazelle
gray gazelle
#

excuse me, can anyone recommend me some bedtime story book(s)?

prisma snow
#

Sure.

#

The Bible

gray gazelle
#

which verse?

warm glen
#

anything old testament is pretty boring imo

#

will put u to sleep real fast, 10/10 better than zzquil

nocturne zinc
#

book reccomendations about math specially trigometric functions

storm sleet
#

is Evan's PDE good?

willow pecan
#

Evans' PDE book is the PDE bible

marble solar
#

You should have background in analysis & PDE before reading evans

storm sleet
#

Good to know

slate quarry
sage python
#

Oh if you want to learn about trig check out "Singular Integrals and Differentiability Properties of Functions" by Stein

marble solar
#

Not recommending Trigonometric Series

#

C'mon Sloth King

sage python
#

Idk that one but I'm just setting trig = harmonic analysis

marble solar
sage python
#

For a second I thought it was volume I and III combined and I was like wtf happened to volume II

slim peak
willow pecan
#

Yes it is

slim peak
#

Brezis' one will conquer the entire world

#

All hail Brezis

willow pecan
late plinth
#

anyone got recommendations for introductory numeric analysis?

#

preferablly applied cuz the only prereq for the course im takin in fall seems to be diff eq

willow pecan
#

What sort of numerical analysis are you interested in?

#

For numerical linear algebra, Demmel

#

Iserles has a book going through odes/pdes

late plinth
#

tbh im not sure, i dont really know much about num anal but figured might as well take it cuz i need it for my major and the class seemed p cool

#

i can link sylabuss

willow pecan
#

LeVeque has several books

late plinth
willow pecan
#

One in particular is on Finite Difference Methods for Conservation Laws which I think is quite nice

#

Because it develops the theory of non-linear conservation laws and discusses numerics for them

#

I don't think you'll find a single book that covers all of these topics

late plinth
#

is the book u recommended heavily proof based or applied? im fine w proofs but just wondering cuz i havent really dabbled too much w proof based math

willow pecan
#

Actually, you can ignore Iserles and LeVeque for this syllabus

#

Numerical methods, even if it is relatively applied, still deals heavily with proofs

late plinth
#

ah

#

i see

willow pecan
#

I don't know of a good proof-light intro numerical analysis book

late plinth
#

im taking an intro anal course this fall, so maybe i can check out the books u rec if i ever decided to take the second numeric analysis course at my uni cuz i think i will be comfortable then

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thank u tho

mint sparrow
native lake
#

Hey guys! I am starting Partial differential equations and ordinary differential equations. But i am lost at materials. Can u guys recommend me some books and online materials to start with

#

And slowly progress to advanced materials.

#

I am a newb at this. So I don't have much idea abt this

frank matrix
#

I highly recommend this textbook. I found it at a used book store and it seems pretty common since a lot of universities use it

late plinth
#

@native lake Paul's online math notes has a p comprehensive notes that cover a lot of basic yet important topicd

#
acoustic gale
#

MONTHLY REMINDER STORMLIGHT ARCHIVE IS GREAT

prisma snow
#

No, it's trash.

acoustic gale
#

no

karmic thorn
#

@frank matrix Er, posting books here which are copyrighted is discouraged due to Discord ToS.

frank matrix
#

I understand, Ill just dm it to him

karmic thorn
manic fox
tranquil trench
#

Can Anyone suggest or share a book for higher order calculus i want the concepts of Pi(particular integrals) ..plsss

manic fox
#

plss < piss

quick hornet
#

what do you mean by "higher order calculus"? like calculus in multiple variables (often called "calc 3" or "vector calculus" in the US)?

tranquil trench
prisma snow
sage python
#

Deleted

narrow talon
#

lol my odes class covered none of the stuff that I’ve actually encountered “in the wild” since taking that class

pseudo forge
gray gazelle
#

never really done much of any math my whole life, any recommendations on a book that would teach me some good foundations? Some super old math textbooks? From the 1900s, 1600s?? , anything Really that would help me learn some algorithmic design, Gems???

pseudo forge
#

y super old

gray gazelle
#

Sometimes there's stuff in there that you can't really learn anywhere else

torn horizon
#

Arithmetic, geometric and harmonic progression. Continued fractions. Elementary combinatorics: Permutations and combinations, Binomial theorem. Theory of equations. Polynomials of a single variable. Inequalities. Complex numbers and De Moivre’s theorem. Elementary set theory. Functions and relations. Elementary number theory: Divisibility, Congruences, Primality.
someone suggest me the book for this topics.

pseudo forge
#

i dont think youll be able to read books from the 1600s

gray gazelle
#

Look man theres a reason for everything

pseudo forge
#

and thats what im trying to figure out..

gray gazelle
#

good deal?

willow pecan
manic fox
#

tteppa has inspired me. I am going to learn geometry pepega

marble solar
gray gazelle
#

having a copy of spivak would be nice

#

i think

#

seems like the kind of book that's nice to read before you go to bed

marble solar
#

I was reading Evans on Laplace Transforms last night

#

I was helping a student of my old CC prof through an old exam and showing what the techniques are

#

And a lot of it feels like it's my professors tricks just max'd out

#

So now i'm trying to Latex up the notes of his tricks because I didn't realize they were pretty non-standard

ripe granite
#

tricks monkey

marble solar
#

Yeah he has an applied math exam as the fourth exam of the class

#

Where it's a lot of Laplace Transforms, systems of ODEs, Fourier Series, Heat Equation, and Runge-Kutta

manic fox
#

le rang wala kutta has arrived

gray gazelle
#

Le le has arrived

gray gazelle
#

@old jasper hammack

old jasper
#

for High school btw

#

or atleast, to be able to be understood by a high schooler

broken meadow
#

book of proof by hammack

#

if u google there is free pdf he provides

#

light read

gray gazelle
#

Yeah hammack is da best

broken meadow
#

i wish i tried velleman but the time is long gone for these kinds of books lol

#

it's not a huge deal tbh

#

just go with one and move on to a proper linear algebra or analysis textbook whenever ur ready

gray gazelle
#

Yeah well i used it only for specific stuff to reference. Never read them as is

#

A friend sent me a chapter of velleman and it was uh catThhhh

karmic thorn
#

You can completely bypass proof books imo

gray gazelle
#

Helps with the outlines

gray gazelle
#

I'm looking for a good introduction to proofs book?

#

anyone?

karmic thorn
slim peak
manic fox
#

yea my intro to proofs was like the first 5 pages of apostol's calc book pepega

gray gazelle
karmic thorn
#

hyperthonk What else are you expecting from a proofs book

slim peak
#

That was exactly my tough thought

narrow talon
#

A halfway decent proof of the Riemann Hypothesis at least

slim peak
#

Proof a my whole Thesis topic

#

in a book

#

that would be great

gray hatch
#

which book would be good for beginners in calculus ?

narrow talon
slim peak
gray gazelle
#

It is the only proper calculus book out there

slim peak
#

Tao's not okay ?

hasty turret
#

Tao is analysis

karmic thorn
#

If you count that as calculus, sure.

slim peak
#

I was just tthinking about the first one, but opening it I see really deep notion in the 6th first chapters of it, but the calculus-related chapter are quite fair to me

#

Chapt 9-11

karmic thorn
#

I mean, you'd probably expect to see a fair amount of emphasis on explicit computations in a calculus class

#

Tao doesn't have such problems

#

But the book is a really gentle introduction to both analysis and maths itself imo

slim peak
#

Let's call it "Integral and derivative Computations Lesson" instead then

karmic thorn
#

Ahahaha

#

Well that is the general calculus class

#

Proofy-stuff usually goes into analysis

#

And I guess European unis tend to erase the distinction

slim peak
#

Completely

karmic thorn
#

That's fair imo

#

Wish that could be more standard

slim peak
#

The difference is made only for students that have chosen a specific enigineering/chemistry/physics road

karmic thorn
#

That's the way it should be

#

Maybe at places where mixed audiences take calculus class together, it makes sense

#

But at my place one is supposed to declare major at the onset, and still the class is computational, and proof based only very later sully

slim peak
#

But it is sad since you don't give stuff such as Rolles' theorem which can be interpreted as "a car that turn around pass through speed 0 mph"

karmic thorn
#

I think calculus at school already does that

#

And maybe an intro analysis class can add some insights like these too

#

The seperation between calculus and analysis for math majors is actually quite stupid catThink

slim peak
#

But sitll stupid for other students, maybe the only one for whho it is really unecessary are the Chem/engineering students

#

but some Physics Major will may be involved in really deep Maths later

#

quite weird

karmic thorn
#

Indeed

misty mica
#

I’m reading through Boyce’s differential equations book, can anyone who’s read it say if it teaches enough about PDEs and Fourier series or will I have to get another book for those?

sage python
#

Yeah depends on to what end

slim peak
dreamy adder
#

does anyone else find the exercises in chapters 3d and 3e of linear algebra done right (axler) really difficult?

#

i'm wondering if that's normal or if i'm missing something

slim peak
#

But the the rest of the book seems pretty solid

#

It is a good overview for ODE's techniques and "handmade computations" in more elaborate case, but the book is an overview of ODEs, with an application for PDEs using Fourier series, this is far from what can be achieve with these tools.

misty mica
#

Thanks for the responses! I want to know as much about them as I would need to be able to apply them in physics and engineering (so not too in-depth)

hearty steppe
#

As far as like the amount of psets involved

#

I don’t think Boyce DePrima really covers PDEs much? Idk I felt like the psets were lacking so I moved to the other book

slim peak
#

Only one chapter

broken meadow
#

nagle saff snider is ok

#

eh

slim peak
#

and not the good way, it only use real valued Fourier series

#

which is kind weird

misty mica
#

it was the only recommended book i could find in my library

#

like recommended as in ive actually heard about it online lol

hearty steppe
#

I am down for better intro Diff Eq recommendations, especially ones that are very detail oriented and allow you to learn well as an autodidact

#

I only have a few Intro Diff Eq books to really pick from atm

slim peak
hearty steppe
#

English

slim peak
#

no other ?

hearty steppe
#

Nope

#

Just English

#

I’m a basic American bastard

slim peak
#

Haha

#

that was not my point

hearty steppe
#

I don’t have time to learn another language mate lol. I wouldn’t if I had the time. So much time to spend learning math and physics alone

#

Like I think I have some excellent advanced Diff Eq book recs but not much in between maybe

slim peak
#

Viorel Barbu's book is really good

hearty steppe
#

Uh which one?

#

The one titled Differential Equations?

slim peak
#

yeah

hearty steppe
#

Ok is the PDE one good too?

slim peak
#

may be too advanced

#

Maybe a little bit hard, but the 250 frist pages of the Evans for PDEs may fit your expectations but no Fourier Series were used

storm sleet
#

What kind of background do I need in RA to study FA insofar as its needed for ODEs/PDEs

slim peak
#

Measure Theory then the construction of the Lebesgue Integral.

#

Then Functional Analysis can be seen almost as an appart stuff, but you need to be aware about Banach spaces and some general topology fact in convex topological vector spaces. Then you can go back to investigate of properties of Lebesgues Spaces, then Distribution Theory, into Sobolev Spaces. Going back to Functional Analysis for Spectral Theory and Operator Theory, thenn go back on Sobolev Spaces.

#

After that you have different possible choices to continue depending on the kind of PDE you want to do

halcyon hornet
#

Hey Guys.
How is OpenStax for learning Math.
I am currently on beginner Algebra 1.

sudden kindle
#

Its okay

#

Its good that its free

#

Thsts why I use openstax for teaching

manic fox
#

yamin teaching

storm sleet
#

We use openstax for our calc sequence. Its... ok

#

lotta typos, and be aware that the downloaded version may be different than the online version

paper brook
#

I recommend A Series of Unfortunate Events It’s a great book give it a try when you’re at the library

quick hornet
velvet cove
#

hello,. I successfully completed my high school education and then Covid hit the world. i am very interested in mathematics. As educational institution are closed at the moment so i would like you to recommend me some mathematics books,mathmetics course,mathmetics syllabus so that i can get an overview of mathematics education after high school at university...??

hearty steppe
#

It would be nice if we could make a mathematical maturity learning map/graph of recommended books starting from the foundational level to higher levels

#

Like the map can split paths and stuff

hollow sun
#

The first book that I always recommend to my friends would be some basic intro to proofs book or some basic discrete math books

still jay
#

Here’s one, but people use different stuff

sudden kindle
#

All roads lead to AG

hearty steppe
sudden kindle
#

Dont take this map too seriously

#

A better approach to learn math is to have a goal and to learn the things that you need to get there

hollow sun
#

lol

velvet cove
#

i heard "applied mathematics" what is it actually?

sudden kindle
#

Any math that some scientist needed to solve their problem

still jay
velvet cove
sudden kindle
#

Maybe look at standard curricula at undergrad institutions, but also why do you want to learn math? What is it you want ti gain? Is there anything in particular you are interested in? Or you just wanna have fun learning a random topic?

velvet cove
#

i enjoy doing mathematics topics (mostly, if not all) ...and i want to use this fun subject to gain knowledge....and go to advance level if possible

sudden kindle
#

Okay yeah the standard indtructory topics are real analysis, linear algebra and topology. Pick your poison 😈

hollow sun
#

I would definitely start with linear algebra tbh, from out of those three

velvet cove
#

in high school i used to have fun doing some topics like calculus, sets, geometry,trignometry,series, matrix.etc but i think i find some topics like probability a little hard to grasp....(but maybe i have not given time to these topics, so that cause me to think them hard)

karmic thorn
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I'd say analysis is an equally good starting point, and to that end I suggest Tao's Analysis 1.

sage python
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Linear Algebra I think is the best starting point

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If you're about to hit undergrad at least

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If you're earlier then maybe you could just burn some time dabbling around

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e.g. discrete math

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I wouldn't start with topology until you do the other things tbh, it's easy to get bored if you don't see the point of it all

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Or I mean... at the beginning it's really cool

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But it drags on a while

velvet cove
native lake
native lake
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No need to get offended, i myself am from the subcontinent. So, i can sense similar people

shell niche
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read the quran brothers 🙏

gray gazelle
manic fox
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no

gray gazelle
gray gazelle
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and magnify

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zoomed in as much as possible

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but prob cuz I am mobile atm

forest wadi
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I'm a complete beginner in algebra do you guys have a any book recommendations that aren't too expensive?

prisma snow
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Expensive? 👀 👀

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I think you're going about this the wrong way

sage python
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Jacobson Basic Algebra I is $20ish

karmic thorn
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Knapp's Basic Algebra is legally available for free from the author's webpage, you can print relevant sections if you like.

hasty turret
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inb4 they want "college algebra"

karmic thorn
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Oh

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Then OpenStax

frail flax
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I'm looking for a basic calculus book that includes the following:

  • taylor series
  • integrations using trig and hyperbolic functions
  • applications of integrations - e.g. surface area of revolutions
  • first and second order diff. equations
  • etc etc
analog pollen
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I’m not sure if any calc book includes any second order diff eq

hasty turret
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Sounds like a standard engineering textbook

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Probably kreyszig

frail flax
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I'm looking for a pure book

hasty turret
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engineering math books don't

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Well,try kreyszig you may like it

frail flax
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Advanced Engineering Mathematics by Kreyszig?

hasty turret
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Yes

frail flax
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@hasty turret It's waaaay too advanced for me

hasty turret
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ic

frail flax
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Plus, it looks like the only things the book has from my list are diff. eqs

frail flax
hasty turret
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Sorry no

karmic thorn
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@frail flax If you're not strictly looking for books, I think Paul's Online Math Notes has all of that

viral hill
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But its only a small section tbh

gray gazelle
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still great tho

karmic thorn
analog pollen
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But I would think you’re better of With just buying a diff eq book

gray gazelle
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Any of you know about "A course in Analysis" by Neils Jacob ? It is the recommend course book(1st volume) but apparently no one have seem to heard/review it

karmic thorn
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Never heard of it before. Skim through the first few chapters?