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high rapids
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By my experimental mouse traps

stone glen
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They prolly are dead anyways

night pumice
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oh

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stone glen
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Don't look like they last long

night pumice
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lol

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magic osprey
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i need help with this

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magic osprey
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i just need someone to explain why there's work being done or none

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i can take care of the computations

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i just don't understand it

prime badge
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it's really just if something moves

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4 and 5 are no work, and the rest have work

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force and movement

magic osprey
prime badge
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elevator is doing work on the woman

magic osprey
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for example the lady is 40kg

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oh wait

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im stupid

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lady = 40kg
displacement= 2m

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then

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w = (40)(9.8m/s)(2m)(cos0)

prime badge
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400 N × 2m

magic osprey
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right?

prime badge
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yeah

magic osprey
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OMG

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I FUCKGNI GET IT NOW

prime badge
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i honestly don't

prime badge
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cuz there's almost no displacement

magic osprey
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isn't the displacement the distance traveled by the ball?

prime badge
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no

magic osprey
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or am i stupid?

prime badge
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only the time when her foot is in contact would count

magic osprey
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wtff\

prime badge
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it's a messed up example

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i can't just say oh it's zero work

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it's totally non zero

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but it's a tiny displacement and a tiny force too

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hm

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basically you calculate the kinetic energy of the ball, and that would be work

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not via force displacement

magic osprey
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that's so annoying

prime badge
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and then number 1 is weird lol

magic osprey
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this is an example our teacher gave us

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which is basically number one

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so i just basically copied it

prime badge
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yes, all the relevant force is to cancel air drag on the tray

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so no force honestly

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if the intended answer for 3 is no work, i can't explain it

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if you can do it with kinetic energy, that's correct

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<@&286206848099549185>

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can anyone help me with second part

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high rapids
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What have you tried

wanton nova
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U helper now

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Nice

foggy scroll
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my teacher never really went over how to solve with intergral

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i know how to do geometric equations that’s it really

high rapids
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How are supposed to answer this question if you don't know integration?

tacit arch
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shade in the areas you're supposed to calculate, and find each one separately then add them all up in the end

high rapids
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at this point, you know the answer and how to do it, but no one here knows what your teacher exactly wants besides you. go ask her

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small pine
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someone solve this exercise pls

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small pine
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I need to study for a test and got stuck in 22

high rapids
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We are not here to solve for you

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Only to help

small pine
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or you can explain how to solve it step by step without giving an answer

high rapids
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Try drawing with the info provided

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Why does the bird look like a cockroach lol

small pine
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idk

lime bobcat
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Are you sure that horizontal distance to the bird is rightly represented??

small pine
small pine
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and does not matter

lime bobcat
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I'm asking you to help you think.

small pine
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bc they dont grade graphs

lime bobcat
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That's how someone learns, it's called formative assessment.

small pine
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its annoying, if it is not right just tell me where it should be the point or whatever and why

lime bobcat
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No.

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Good luck, bye.

small pine
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lol

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just be like a normal teacher dude

lime bobcat
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I hope a normal teacher helps you.

high rapids
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Use angles

small pine
high rapids
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And trigonometry

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Yeah good enough

small pine
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ok, i'll try

clear stump
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@high rapids why are you green

high rapids
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For self validation

clear stump
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ok

high rapids
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@small pine were you able to solve? I need to go sleep

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It's easy peasy lemon squeezy

small pine
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bro

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im here

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the book gives other answer tho

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@high rapids

high rapids
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Yes book is correct

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For the first part all the angles of the smaller (narrower) triangle was found and the sine rule was used for the answer

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For the the second part the whole right triangle was used to find the answer

small pine
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ohhhh

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i got it

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ok done

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turbid juniper
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is counting rules and combinatorics the same/related?

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oh okay

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thank youu!

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wild talon
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when proving an equivalence between two expressions, do you have to only develop either LHS or RHS or can you develop both at the same time

last ether
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Well

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Depends

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It really depends

wild talon
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uhm

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how do I know if i can

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do both

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or not

last ether
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Kinda hard to give you a guideline

wild talon
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because the answers provided only develop 1 side until its the same

last ether
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Its more intuition

wild talon
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if its like induction

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and I just need to prove p(k+1)

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could i do both sides?

last ether
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Induction then I guess you develop one side

wild talon
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oh..

last ether
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But then like I said

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It really depends

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Can you please find and do an algebra practice sheet with me?

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Did I draw this correctly

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I don't know how to solve this question

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digital python
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does anyone know how to do the second one, from the graph, the limit tends to -0.5

tacit arch
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guessing taylor expansion is not an option?

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narrow viper
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Dont understand how to do any of the problems that arent crossed out

young finch
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Send the whole question

narrow viper
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Alright

young finch
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So you can tell which quadrant these points are in based of the signs

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Like quad 1 is ++

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Quad 2 is -+

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Etc

narrow viper
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Yea

young finch
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What does is mean by trig ratio

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Its already given?

narrow viper
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No i think were supposed to determine it

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Its not given yet

young finch
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oh waif nvm

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I see what its asking

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So the first value will be the horizontal side of the triangle and the second value will be the vertical side of the triangle you can make

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think unit circle

narrow viper
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Oh

young finch
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then you can find the hypotenuse of the triangle which is needed for cos and sin

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For tan and cot you don't have to make the triangle I think

narrow viper
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Could you go through one of the problems so I can better understand exactly how to do these?

young finch
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So 1

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-2,7

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Needs the cosine trig ratio

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based off the signs we know it is the second quadrant

narrow viper
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Mhm

young finch
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We can make a triangle

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-2 is the base

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7 is the height

narrow viper
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Ill draw it right now

young finch
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find the hypotenuse which is √53

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cos is a/h

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Adjacent is -2

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hypotenuse is √53

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-2/√53

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simplify

narrow viper
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Wait how do you know hypotenuse is 53 squared?

young finch
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-2√53/53

narrow viper
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mb

young finch
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And I used Pythagorean theorm

narrow viper
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Oh I see

young finch
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Also theta is always going to be angle at the origin

narrow viper
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Ohh so when I simplify it its -2/ 53 to the square root?

young finch
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what

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No you simplify by rationalizing

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Which means multiplying both sides of the fraction by the same thing

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√53×√53 is 53

narrow viper
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Ohh to cancel the square root

young finch
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And -2×√53 is just -2√53

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Yes because you cant have a root in the denominator

narrow viper
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Oh alright

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that makes it simplier when the point is shown as a coordinate but

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what would I do when it's shown in radians

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like in problem 5

burnt vortex
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could someone please help me finish up some questions I have for precalc

young finch
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You know your unit circle right

narrow viper
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Yea

young finch
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young finch
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-√3/2,-1/2

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Both are negative which means it's in quadrant 3

narrow viper
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Oh I forgot to use the unit circle

young finch
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yeah

narrow viper
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alright thanks a lot

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I think I understand this now

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okay good

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Okay so I am going over a few things for my calculus final and I have a few questions regarding rationalizing. I understand that you cannot have a radical in the denominator. But technically you’re allowed to have one in the numerator. This confuses me because there are still times when you rationalize the numerator, which makes no sense because then you end up with one in the denominator.

vale wigeon
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I understand that you cannot have a radical in the denominator.
your understanding is wrong

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there is nothing illegal per se with having a radical in the denominator.

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you are allowed to have a radical anywhere you want within your expression

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vale wigeon
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usually because it helps make cancellation happen

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and that can, say, make it possible to calculate a limit by direct substitution when it was impossible prior

eternal kestrel
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So do I just guess when it ends up in cancellation?

vale wigeon
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no

eternal kestrel
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Just do it and hope for the best?

vale wigeon
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there's nothing wrong with doing it and finding out it wasn't helpful

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you can always backtrack

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vale wigeon
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misleading

tacit arch
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Same logic why we tell children to never cross the street on red but adults do it all the time

vale wigeon
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would wager the no crossing on red thing is a fair bit more important than rationalizing denoms

eternal kestrel
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Im so confused, how come you cant have one but you can

vale wigeon
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the reason why you rationalize denominators is not necessity but convenience, and there is an important difference between the two

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you can

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you can

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there is nothing wrong with it

eternal kestrel
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Why does it say you cant

vale wigeon
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some people insist it's illegal because they confuse necessity with convenience or think children aren't able to grasp the difference

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eternal kestrel
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I thought u couldnt have a radical in the denominator

tacit arch
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Also Santa isn't real

eternal kestrel
tacit arch
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,calc 1/sqrt(2)

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Result:

0.70710678118655
high rapids
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You are adopted

tacit arch
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,w Santa clause

high rapids
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,w riemann

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are we done here

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@eternal kestrel do you have anything else to ask?

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stone ruin
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Does this transformation exist, if not why not

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if it does what is it

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and it should say f(x) < x not f(x) < y

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tacit arch
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you can just try a piecewise transformation

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If the cost price is 96% of the selling price, what is the profit%?

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and the answer is that the profit is 1/24 of the cost price

simple current
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huh true

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Aya I misread the equation

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what is the difference between degree of graph and degree of vertex

misty bobcat
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degree of vertex is a number of incident edges with vertex

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and degree of graph ?

prime badge
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it's uh nothing, it's not defined, unless every vertex has the same degree

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nvm, it can also mean maximum of the vertex degrees

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uhm

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how do i do this

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i dont understand where to start

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im looking at the answers, and i cant see why there are like 30 solutions

rapid nova
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your answer is correct

candid robin
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those arent my answers

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theyre the teachers

rapid nova
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just solve sin(x) = sqrt(3)/2 and sin(x) = -sqrt(3)/2 separately

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and then combine the answers

candid robin
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???

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where do i start

rapid nova
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wdym

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do you understand everything up to sin(x) = +- sqrt(3)/2?

candid robin
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where did we get sin from

rapid nova
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cosec(x) = 1/sin(x)

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by definition

candid robin
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ok

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so then

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ohh

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ok that makes sense

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so then why are we finding the values pi/3, pi-pi/3, etc

rapid nova
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sin(x) = sqrt(3)/2 gives us solution of form arcsin(sqrt(3)/2) * (-1)^n + pi n = pi/3 * (-1)^n + pi n
in [0, 2pi] that gives us pi/3 * (-1)^0 + pi * 0 = pi/3 and pi/3 * (-1)^1 + pi * 1 = pi - pi/3 = 2pi/3

sin(x) = -sqrt(3)/2 gives us solution of form arcsin(-sqrt(3)/2) * (-1)^n + pi n = -pi/3 * (-1)^n + pi n
in [0, 2pi] that gives us -pi/3 * (-1)^1 + pi * 1 = pi + pi/3 = 4pi/3 and -pi/3 * (-1)^2 + pi * 2 = 2pi - pi/3 = 5pi/3

candid robin
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what the hell

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please explain

rapid nova
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that's just how you solve sin(x) = a equation

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i mean you can also do it visually

candid robin
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yes please

rapid nova
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just won't work for a general case

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but ok

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do you know that arcsin(sqrt(3)/2) is pi/3

candid robin
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uhh

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i guess yeah

rapid nova
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does this help?

candid robin
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what does that show me

rapid nova
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it shows all the points where sin(x) is sqrt(3)/2 or -sqrt(3)/2

candid robin
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ah i see

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so basically we're trying to find the value of the thing at these 4 points?

rapid nova
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yes

candid robin
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ook cool

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@rapid nova

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how did my teacher come to this?

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atm i only get that its 1-sinx and 1+sinx, which is difference of 2 squares

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but why is it on the top and why is there a 1^2 - sin^2x at the bottom?

north adder
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htey found a common denominator

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done with q?

candid robin
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OH

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okok thx

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nw

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you can close it now if u want

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it's you who is supposed to close it with .close

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is this equstion bernoulli or binomial?

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idk what topic it lies under

north adder
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this is a combinatorics quesiton

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simple current
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can I just do elimination and have

north adder
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thats one point of intersection

simple current
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and then substitute for the rest

north adder
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how would you find the second

simple current
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for a +-

north adder
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ah.

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yes

simple current
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ok

north adder
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you can do that

simple current
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thank you

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so like i'd do quadratic formula for the rest

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no worries

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ok chill then

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thanks

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yea happy to help

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am i doing something wrong here?

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where do i start with this

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transpose the cos to the other side

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what does that mean

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transfer

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move

candid robin
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so 3sinθ-2cosθ=0?

plush ice
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no just the sin

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I think they mean dividing by cos on both sides

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well i cant explain it without give away the answer

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hmm

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can you write what that would look like after 'transposing'

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sin/cos=2/3

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I got this integral wrong but i dont know were I went wrong

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you forgor the -1/4 factor

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Still it says the solution is 1/8tg^2(x^4) +C

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what is tg

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Can someone pls look through my solution and correct me if I’m going wrong anywhere

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how to solve this?

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let u = 2

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u = x^(1/2)

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ln_x(2) = 1/2 => by inspection x = 4 = 2 + 2 QED

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,tex Two cards are drawn from a well shuffled pack of 52 cards. Find the probability that exactly one is a king.

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QuantumBee

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P(getting Exactly one King)=$\frac{4}{52}\cdot \frac{50}{51}\cdot {2}$

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QuantumBee

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<@&286206848099549185>

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shouldnt it be 4/52 * 48/51 * 2?

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the 2nd card cant be a king right?

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there are 48 non-king cards in a deck

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yes that's correct, it's equally important to draw a non king too

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4/52 * 48/51 + 48/52 * 4/51 = what fro$t said

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Is there a way to simplify this down? I'm trying to find the average angle of two given angles given a 2d plane (x and y are points)

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Hello I am stuck on 6i

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I am not sure how to start this

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Add the 2 vectors

edgy cape
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I think I have to find the horizontal and vertical components produced by 6 and 10 first and then add those but i don'tknow what angle to use

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That will give u the resultant

edgy cape
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i can't just add 6 and 10

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Do you know how 2 vectors are added?

edgy cape
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by adding their horizontal and vertial

stone glen
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No

wary stream
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The x and y components

edgy cape
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so that is correct?

stone glen
wary stream
stone glen
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Don't add the horizant and the vertical

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ye so the magnitude 6 produces 6costheta and 6sin theta and same with 10

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but what is theta

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I dknt even understand what u mean by that

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The component in the x-axis

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They didn't specify x and y components, when they said horizontal and vertical components

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Exactly

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Normally horizontal is along the x axis

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edgy cape
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i mean horizontal and vertical around the given magnitude forces 6 and 10

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actually i am wrong

stone glen
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:/

wary stream
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Law of cosine

stone glen
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I don't understand

wary stream
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Is how you find it

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is that what i am finding,

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You have to find the magnitude first

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Which applies law of cosine

edgy cape
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how is magnitude law of cosine

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oh wait ye

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dam

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so when two forces are at an angle that is not 90 then i can use trig for the resultant instead of pythag?

wary stream
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Sure, I guess

edgy cape
wary stream
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To find the resultant?

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No

edgy cape
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but 110 is the angle opposite to the 'side' I am finding

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And that is why I presented the video

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So you can understand how to apply law of cosine with the resultant

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The angle you'd be using is not 110

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alright i will watch the video

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Hi, can someone explain to me what these 2 formulas are?

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(discrete math)

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$\binom{n}{r} = \frac{n!}{r!(n-r)!}$

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castroploiin

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Replace n with r+k-1 and r with k-1

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Works the same @steep widget

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Is 1 b?

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No, 1 isn't B because of the horizontal asymptote

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The horizontal asymptote of 1 is: y=1

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I thought it can't be A cause denominator has an odd leading degree.

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its not A

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Ah okay okay

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Wait b isn't asymptote of 1?

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B doesn't have a horizontal asymptote at all

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C and D both have horizontal asymptote y=1

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and A has horizontal asymptote of y=0

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Ah okay

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makes sense

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But how do we know c is y=1

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The left side looks weird

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How do we know it's approaching 1

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so we make the inference based on the right side then?

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Also, can we find the vertical asymptote with any of the information that we are given?

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since B isn't defined

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Oh and so 1) is D and 3) is A?

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we know that the vertical asymptote is x=B but not more than that

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hi im trying

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but i got stuck there

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on the right hand side

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also you should really be doing this with pen and paper or whiteboard/chalkboard

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im doing it with friends on discord thats why i use paint

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im not sure if its this

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Damn I feel so old

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Was about to say something "back in my days we had no discord friends to do math with"

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~kids are ruined~

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we live in 2 different countries , we cant go to each others house @high rapids

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it would be nice

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nvm sorry i got it

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Why is this undefined?

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Hey I was literally about to use this channel :(

alpine sable
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And this here is defined 🤔

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I don't get it

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Shouldn't there be an equal sign for the function to exist

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≥ or = to find f(c)

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Damn I feel stupid

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Thanks

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then the first function applies

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-1-1 = -2

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Just realised this after the 3rd revision

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wanton nova
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hi

median oar
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,rotate

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wanton nova
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do you know what a cubic number is?

cunning star
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No.

alpine kiln
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bound 600 between x^3 and (x+1)^3

wanton nova
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its a number raised to the 3rd power

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,calc 15^3

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Result:

3375
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Hi! I keep lurking here, just trying to solve a specific equation. Wolfram brings me to a solution but there is no step-by-step to get here. Is there other software that can help spell this out, or is it just an iterative estimate? log(e^x)+e^-x + x is really the underlying form. I figure ProductLog isn't applicable here, but maybe there is a sort of substitution that could get me by?

wanton nova
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hi

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you can type your question here

keen sandal
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Man must be typing for a while

young dove
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I have been typing, someone just typed beneath me.

wanton nova
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)

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just copy paste it

alpine kiln
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i have pro premium

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if you want i can give you step by step for this one equation

young dove
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I'll move over ty

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I have pro premium too, still no dice

wanton nova
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,calc 7^3

ocean sealBOT
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Result:

343
wanton nova
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,calc 9^3

ocean sealBOT
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Result:

729
cunning star
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oh I think i get it

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9 is one

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9 cubed?

wanton nova
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yeah

cunning star
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still more?

wanton nova
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,calc 10^3

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Result:

1000
wanton nova
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nope

cunning star
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I only need one?

wanton nova
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yeah

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thats what the question says

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so the answer is 729

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ok?

cunning star
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So do I put that

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or 729?

wanton nova
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729 is a cubic number

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so put 729

cunning star
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?

wanton nova
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yeha

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but you have to show

cunning star
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its 1 mark

wanton nova
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adn?

cunning star
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guess your right

wanton nova
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,calc 8^3

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Result:

512
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write like this:

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8^3 =512

cunning star
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Alright.

wanton nova
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9^3 =729

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10^3 =1000

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just these 3

cunning star
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what does dividing by a fraction mean?

cunning star
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Im doing this on calculator btw because its a calculator test

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25/2

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yeah

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ur right!

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how did you do it?

cunning star
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Just typed in my calculator

wanton nova
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(

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i had high hopes

cunning star
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Was the answer right?

wanton nova
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yeah

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but why though?

cunning star
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why did I type it in a calculator because its a calculator test. Your supposed to use a calculator

wanton nova
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ok

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dont mattah

cunning star
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In my country, we have a test where we have to use calculators

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do you know how to do it without?

cunning star
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Yes.

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how?

cunning star
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But im not worried.

wanton nova
cunning star
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Ok

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U here?

cunning star
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yes

wanton nova
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Ok

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U here now?

cunning star
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yes

wanton nova
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Ok

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So

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What happenes when we multiply both sides by 2?

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?

cunning star
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8x?

wanton nova
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?

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Think of it this way

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What is x÷2×2

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?

cunning star
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X/2?

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X?

wanton nova
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You get x

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Right?

cunning star
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Yes.

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X times 2 is 2x?

wanton nova
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So the ÷2 and ×2 cancel eachother out

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Ok?

cunning star
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Ok.

wanton nova
cunning star
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Ok.

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So do I do 4x/2?

wanton nova
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Now we have

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$\frac{4x-1}{2}$

ocean sealBOT
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Mike Oxbig

wanton nova
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So basically (4x-1)÷2

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Ok?

cunning star
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ok

wanton nova
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Its the same thing

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Now we multiply by 2 on both sides

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(4x-1)÷2×2

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What do we get

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What did i say about the ÷2 and ×2? What do they do to eachother?

cunning star
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idk

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4x-1÷1

wanton nova
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Yeah

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Which is just 4x-1

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Right?

wanton nova
cunning star
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yeah but that is very hard

wanton nova
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They cancel and nothing remains

cunning star
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so just divide by both sides

wanton nova
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?

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Now

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We multiplied the left side by 2

cunning star
wanton nova
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Now the right side

cunning star
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Whats the first step

wanton nova
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Multiply both sides by 2

cunning star
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what sides?

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4x/2?

wanton nova
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Everything that is left of the = is called the left side

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And on the rightof the = is called the right side

cunning star
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4x÷1÷1?

wanton nova
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No

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Dont rush

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So

cunning star
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Oh.

wanton nova
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We multiply by 2 on both sides

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What do we get on the left?

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We just talked about this

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...

cunning star
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Oh I get that part

wanton nova
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So what do we get on the lft

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Left

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?

cunning star
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4x÷2?

wanton nova
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F

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Look above

cunning star
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4x times 2?

wanton nova
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No

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This is the last time im explaining

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(4x+1)÷2×2

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What do the 2's do?

cunning star
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oh ok im understanding

wanton nova
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What do the 2's do?

cunning star
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2x2=4

wanton nova
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What do the 2's do?

cunning star
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(4x+1)÷4?

wanton nova
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Bro

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Try to focus

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Pls

cunning star
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ok

wanton nova
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If you add 2 to a number then you subtract 2, what do you get?

cunning star
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the same number

wanton nova
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If you divide by 2 then you multiply by 2, what do you get?

cunning star
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same number

wanton nova
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Good

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Our number is 4x+1

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We divide it by 2

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Then we multiply by 2

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What do we get?

cunning star
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Yes, I get it.

wanton nova
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BRO TELL ME

cunning star
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1/2=0.5

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0.5x2

wanton nova
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F

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I cant take this any longer

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Sry bro

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Im out

cunning star
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Oh my bad lol

wanton nova
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Bye

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Fr this time

cunning star
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Bro you got a video tutorial

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I am stuck on parts a and b

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I used f'(x) = f(-4+x) - f(-4) / x

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limit definition

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but i am unable to get the slope or rate of change right

abstract fractal
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Show your work

thorny iris
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it super messy but i basically simplified the equation down to the equation: -4x-8

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how would I get the instantaneous rate of change and slope from there?

abstract fractal
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Again, show your work. You shouldn't have any variables at the end

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Did you remember to take the limit?

tender dew
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seems fine

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just plug in -4 for x

abstract fractal
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The problem is that theyre using lim h -> 0 (f(-4 + h) - f(-4))/h, except h is rebranded as x. There shouldn't be any variables after the limit

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If they were just doing lim h->0 (f(x+h) - f(x))/h, then it'd be fine, but their comment seems to hint otherwise

thorny iris
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i did that and then got to -4x-8

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and then i subbed in 0

abstract fractal
thorny iris
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its asking at x = -4

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i just switched h

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for x

abstract fractal
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That's what I was thinking

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But if that's the case, you shouldn't get a variable. Plus, even if you take the limit x->0 now, you'll still get the wrong answer

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You'll get -8, which isn't the slope of the tangent line

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Wait, I made a mistake, lemme double check

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Okay, the slope still isn't -8, even though lim x->0 -4x - 8 = -8, so there's an error somewhere in your working

thorny iris
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yes I got -8 at first

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and it said it was wrong

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so i put in 8

abstract fractal
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That's why I need to see your working so I can see what went wrong

thorny iris
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here

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also mb I got -2x+8

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not 4

abstract fractal
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Oh. Then everything's fine.

thorny iris
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what would the slope be here

abstract fractal
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Hold on

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Second line

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Nvm, you just forgot the ²

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On the first line, it should be (-2(-4)² - ...), not just -2(-4)

thorny iris
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yeah mb

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Stil should be same answer tho

abstract fractal
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Yep. The slope is 8

thorny iris
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How did u find the slope

abstract fractal
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Took the derivative. Same way you did, though with some shortcuts that you'll learn later

thorny iris
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The derivative of what ?

abstract fractal
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f(x)

thorny iris
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But I get the formula -2x+8 from that

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no ?

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isn’t that the derivative of fx

abstract fractal
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You're supposed to take the lim x->0

thorny iris
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yeah

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which gets 8

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after u sub in zero

abstract fractal
thorny iris
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oh

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so if you take the derivative

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of f(x)

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without subbing in -4

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?

abstract fractal
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You'll just get the plain derivative. Though, you'll have to keep h as h

thorny iris
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Ah ok

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and then how would u find slope after solving that

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would it just be the m value

abstract fractal
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The derivative will end up being -4x - 8, and to find the derivative evaluated at -4, you plug in -4 for x

thorny iris
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Ahh ok

abstract fractal
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So the slope would be -4(-4) - 8

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Which is 8

thorny iris
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So basically I needed to take two derivatives

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one w -4

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limit 0

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other just plain

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w/o -4

abstract fractal
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You don't need to take two derivatives. One will suffice. Both gave the same answer, you see

thorny iris
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How so

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The only derivative I took

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Was -2x+8

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and then I subbed in 0 to find rate of change

abstract fractal
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Which was also 8

thorny iris
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Yeah

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But would that logic apply

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To all types of questions ?

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Would slope = instantaneous rate of change ?

abstract fractal
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Sure. You just need to plug in the right value of x into the limit definition

abstract fractal
thorny iris
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OH

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Ok

abstract fractal
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That's the definition of instantaneous rate of change

thorny iris
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That makes so much more sense

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Ok thank you for the help lol

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I have one more

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if u wouldn’t mind rq

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f(3) how would i determine the value

abstract fractal
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Well, is there any red marks at x = 3?

thorny iris
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yes but for x = 4

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its hollow at x = 3

abstract fractal
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In other words, it's undefined there

thorny iris
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yeah thats what i thought

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so it would be DNE right

abstract fractal
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The hollow circle means it's not defined at that point

abstract fractal
thorny iris
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yeah but its wrong apparently

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thats what I had put at first

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so would this question just be wrong?

abstract fractal
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Well, it's definitely not defined

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Not sure what they want

thorny iris
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me neither bc they are for an integer value, dne, infinity, or -infinity

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alright thanks for the help though

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alpine sable
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they’re asking me to transform this formula so that x is isolated, is the answer : x = f + xf/y ?

alpine sable
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i have no idea, i’m quite bad for now

i multiplied both sides by x, then both sides by f

alpine sable
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oh okay ?

placid zinc
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Let's say you multiply both sides by f. Then you have:
1 = f/x + f/y

alpine sable
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where have i made a mistake?

placid zinc
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Then multiply both sides by x:
x = f + fx/y

alpine sable
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oh so i was right?

placid zinc
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There's an x on both sides, so no that doesn't work

leaden jungle
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take it as a common factor

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continue what you were doing and multiply by y

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XY=fy+fx

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xy-fx=fy

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X(y-f)=fy

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X=fy/(y-f)

alpine sable
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so hold on

  1. i multiply it by x, f and y?
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on both sides

summer sail
leaden jungle
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multiply both sides by xfy

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since that's the least common denominator

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It's what kaynex and I did but over one step instead of 3

alpine sable
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yeah i get u

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and then we factorize the expression and move it to the other side?

leaden jungle
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yeah

alpine sable
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alright i see

leaden jungle
alpine sable
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does it only work with variables?

leaden jungle
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wdym

alpine sable
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hold on before that, i don’t understand how you factorized xy - xf

leaden jungle
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X is a common factor

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xy-fx= X(y-f)

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multiplication distribution property

alpine sable
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oh i see now lol

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thank you a lot

leaden jungle
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np

alpine sable
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forget my question about the variables

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slim iron
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If you are trying to use to log to find an unknown exponent would you use the absolute value of the base?

slim iron
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For example I have 4782969 = -3^n-1

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would i do log4782969 = log3 * n-1

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then solve for n

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aIt that wouldn't work