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alpine sable
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the center comes out to be 2,3/2

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then

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what do i consider the other two either points

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so that i can apply midpoint

slow sentinel
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One moment

torn elk
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Use the rotation points.

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The vertices of the square will be at a 90-degree rotation from the given vertices about the center of the square.

slow sentinel
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$y=\frac{2x}{5}-\frac{7}{10}$
You can now assume 2 points on this line such as (x, 2x/5-7/10) and put them in the distance formula from centre and you'll get 2 values of x and subsititute the value of x in the equation of line to get your y coordinates

ocean sealBOT
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MeDumb

slow sentinel
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Does this make sense?

alpine sable
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umm

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alr i assumed one point to be x,2x/5 -7/10

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the other one ?

slow sentinel
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Try solving just one

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When you solve using this

alpine sable
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ah i see

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i got it

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ah shit

slow sentinel
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You'll get 2 values of x

alpine sable
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i am so stoopid

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i was almost there

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got it bud

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thanks a lot

slow sentinel
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No problemo

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👌

alpine sable
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i wanna hear his idea too

torn elk
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Midpoint (h,k) = (3,3/2)

x' = h + (y - k)
y' = k - (x - h)

alpine sable
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just like shifting of origin ?

torn elk
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Apply for the point (3,4) and the for the point (1, -1)

alpine sable
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similar to it

torn elk
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we "rotate the image"

alpine sable
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just rotating the system

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oh i see

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got it

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i will try it

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thanks

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how do i close it now ?

torn elk
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.close

alpine sable
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.close

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junior gazelle
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Under these assumptions:

Is this true?

junior gazelle
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,

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gpt said its ok but idk

surreal crystal
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gpt is bad at math, and has misled me many times

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@junior gazelle Has your question been resolved?

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😦

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hi

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hello gays

junior gazelle
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no

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patent swallow
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Guys I know how to draw x = -3 and y = 5x but idk how to draw the other function

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I need to find the area between those 3 funcs

dire trail
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whitch area do you mention ?

patent swallow
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not y = -4

dire trail
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ah my bad

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good ?

patent swallow
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but

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idk how to draw hx

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in the exam

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so using geogebra isnt valid to solve this excercise

dire trail
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well in order to find the area between multiple functions in a specific field you need to integrate their difference

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like here we want to find the area in : -4 < x < 0

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just go ahead and integrate those two functions

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since x = -4 don't take any area you're just left with those two

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if you get a negative value, use the apsulute value since the area can't be negative

patent swallow
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I need to find $5x=\frac{x}{\sqrt{x^2+9}}$ right?

ocean sealBOT
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Chuti | Argentina

patent swallow
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But I get to this $5\sqrt{x^2+9}-x=0$

ocean sealBOT
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Chuti | Argentina

patent swallow
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I'm prolly doing something wrong here

slender gull
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You already have made a mistake, yes.

patent swallow
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| -42 | the area

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assuming x is 0

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but maybe I'm losing solutions

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literally got the result at the same time u sent the message lmao

slender gull
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I must say, I didn't read any prior messages.
But I only commented on your work in solving the equation. You lost x = 0

patent swallow
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yes, forget about the previous messgaes

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I'm struggling with $5x=\frac{x}{\sqrt{x^2+9}}$

ocean sealBOT
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Chuti | Argentina

patent swallow
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tbh I still dont understand how I passed high school

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🤣

trim sorrel
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Haha

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How would you start to do this?

patent swallow
trim sorrel
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You missed sometihng

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As before, the other guy pointed out you missed the solution x = 0

trim sorrel
patent swallow
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correct

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but what if there are more?

trim sorrel
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Right

patent swallow
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I mean idk

trim sorrel
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So now let's try to find a nonzero solution

patent swallow
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wolfram might know, I dont 🤣

trim sorrel
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If x is nonzero, we can divide it from both sides, right?

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Bc we're trying to find a nonzero solution

patent swallow
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divide it, what's it?

trim sorrel
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Divide x

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From both sides

patent swallow
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like 5x/x ?

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u mean

trim sorrel
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Yes

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From both sides

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Cancelling the x

patent swallow
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correct

trim sorrel
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Since we are assumign its nonzero

patent swallow
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yes

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yes

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absurd

trim sorrel
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If we simplify a bit, we get $5 \sqrt{x^2 + 9} = 1 \Rightarrow \sqrt{x^2 + 9} = 1/5 \Rightarrow x^2 + 9 = 1/25 \Rightarrow x^2 = 1/25 - 9 < 0$

patent swallow
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5 = 1/ something

ocean sealBOT
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wakebloom

patent swallow
trim sorrel
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Hm?

trim sorrel
trim sorrel
patent swallow
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correct

trim sorrel
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Just algebra

patent swallow
trim sorrel
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Correct

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In the real numbers yes

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So there are no real solutions for x when x is nonzero

trim sorrel
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In the reals

trim sorrel
patent swallow
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yes in R

trim sorrel
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Ya

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So thats the solution

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To that equation

patent swallow
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good

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😎

trim sorrel
patent swallow
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again, idk how I passed high s

trim sorrel
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Lolll

patent swallow
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thanks for the help salute

trim sorrel
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You did and thats what matters

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o7

patent swallow
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haha

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now I need to pass calc 1

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😭

trim sorrel
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You got this

patent swallow
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first time in my life I study

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never studied before fr haha

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already got used to studying a lot by now but this is hella difficult 🤣 anyways, thanks again, I'll close the channel

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junior warren
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.reopen

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pain

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Open a new one

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boreal sluice
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Hello can someone verify my answers for me please

boreal sluice
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I’m not so sure about q1, hence I didn’t complete it

pallid scarab
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Q5) is good !

boreal sluice
pallid scarab
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Q4 is good too

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And Q3

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In Q2) is D those 2 quadrants next to the question ? Because I would have expected the result to be 0

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Let me double check

boreal sluice
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i guess so, the graph was given and those two quadrants are the shaded ones

pallid scarab
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Oh I think you're supposed to integrate from pi/2 to 3pi/2, not from -pi/2 to pi/2

boreal sluice
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3pi/2 is -pi/2

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oh do u mean that they arent in the correct order?

pallid scarab
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I think that's a first thing to correct

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But I suggest trying to write it as :
int[x = -2 to x = 0] int[y = -sqrt(4-x²) to y = sqrt(4-x²)] x⁴y dy dx

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Then bringing out the x⁴ term from the inner integral

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int[x = -2 to x = 0] x⁴ * (int[y = -sqrt(4-x²) to y = sqrt(4-x²)] y dy) dx

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But then you'll find this inner integral is null

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So you're integrating 0, which gives 0

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I don’t know what went wrong with your approach, I'm trying to wrap my head around it

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Maybe it's when you calculate the new boundaries, you should find the same boundary twice

boreal sluice
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oh okay tysm, i'll try to figure it out

pallid scarab
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Yeah it's cos(pi/2) = cos(-pi/2) = 0 that are the boundaries

boreal sluice
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are the boundaries for q3 correct?

pallid scarab
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Technically they should be -pi/2 and 0

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But it has no impact on the result

boreal sluice
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oh right

pallid scarab
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Also for question 1, it might help writing f(x,y) = (x+2)² + (y-1)² - 3

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Just so you get confirmation that the absolute minimum is at x = -2 and y = 1

boreal sluice
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i think its wrong from the start then

pallid scarab
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Yeah i think you need to find where Gradient(f) = 0

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And otherwise, find an expression for f(x,y) at the border x² + y² = 20

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(x = rcos(theta) and y = rsin(theta))

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And you can now find the min and max in terms of theta

boreal sluice
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ok tysm

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boreal sluice
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I re-did it

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pallid scarab
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I'm sorry for not understanding the method behind this for finding max/min, I might have not seen it before

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its okay

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lapis nacelle
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the set {(x, x+y, y, x-y) | x, y real} is the set R^4 ?

lapis nacelle
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I think so, but I'm not sure

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how can I verify that

mortal trellis
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can you write every vector in R^4 in that form?

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eg (1,1,1,1) ?

lapis nacelle
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not that one

mortal trellis
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why not?

lapis nacelle
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(1,1,1,1) means x=1 and y=1

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then, (1,2,1,0)

mortal trellis
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yes

lapis nacelle
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But in general how can I see all the lists that are in the set?

mortal trellis
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well they all have that form

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what exactly would you want as an answer here?

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this form is pretty explicit

naive valley
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you might try expressing (x, x+y, y, x-y) in the form xu + yv, where u and v are two specific fixed vectors

lapis nacelle
naive valley
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(x, x+y, y, x-y) = x(1, 1, 0, 1) + y(?,?,?,?) <-- what's the second vector here?

lapis nacelle
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(0,1,1,-1)

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oooh ok

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I I'm just a little confused

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so, I can say the dimension of that space is 2, right?

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because (1,1,0,1) and (0,1,1,-1) form every (x, x+y, y, x-y) with a pair of constants

tardy stag
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if you can span it with two vectors and not with one, then yes it's two dimensional

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lapis nacelle
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if this is the base:

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lapis nacelle
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to verify this

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just ask: is 1+x+5x^2 = 1+x^2?

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right?

vale crag
lapis nacelle
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a true false statement

vale crag
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alpine sable
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If |2x+3| - |x-1| = 6, then the sum of possible values of x will be___.

alpine sable
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I’ve made some progress

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I made 3 cases

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Wait I think I found my mistake

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One sec

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Actually I don’t

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I’ll write my solution down nearly and post it in a sec

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Ugggh I was solving the for the wrong question 😑

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next osprey
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ok so im trying g(2)

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im at 2/3 ln10

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how would i solve that

fallen verge
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You dont

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find f(2/3×ln10)

next osprey
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so i plug that into 5e^3x then?

fallen verge
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Yes

next osprey
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im also not allowed a calculator

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so 5e^3((2/3)ln(10))

fallen verge
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Yes

next osprey
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how do i solve that

tacit arch
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you were given log rules

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look at it again

fallen verge
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Start with 3×(2/3)

next osprey
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am i distributing?

next osprey
fallen verge
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Yes

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So now you have 5e^(2ln(10))

next osprey
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yes

fallen verge
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Recall $a \ln b = \ln b^a$

ocean sealBOT
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garlicbredfries

next osprey
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so 5e^ln(10)^2

fallen verge
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$ \ln (b^a)$

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$\ln (b^a)$

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garlicbredfries

next osprey
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...

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lost

tacit arch
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$e^{\ln(a)} = a$

ocean sealBOT
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rie.mann

next osprey
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so 10^2 *5?

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that rule is so

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thank you very much

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tulip musk
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I just need help solving

vapid shuttle
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start by filling out the tables

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@tulip musk Has your question been resolved?

tulip musk
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I just need the answers

vapid shuttle
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have you tried filling out the table yet

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we don't give answers

tulip musk
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Alr give me a second

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idk anything

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Like how to fill

vapid shuttle
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take a specific x-value

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find the y-value of the line at that x-value

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and then put them in the table together

tulip musk
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So like -3, -1, 1, 3

vapid shuttle
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those could be choices of x

tulip musk
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Could?

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So it varies

vapid shuttle
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well you can just pick whichever values for x that you want

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to fill out the table

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picking easy ones makes it easier

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this is an example of one point you could do

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pick x=2

tulip musk
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okay

vapid shuttle
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the y-value at that point, is y=2

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so on our table, we put 2, 2

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now you can pick some more x-values

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whatever you want them to be

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and keep filling out the table

tulip musk
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So like x = 0

vapid shuttle
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and y would then be?

tulip musk
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1

vapid shuttle
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mhm

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just like that

tulip musk
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Idk how to write equation

vapid shuttle
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Do you know how to find the slope of the line?

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Do you also know how to find the y-intercept of the line?

tulip musk
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Pythagoras?

vapid shuttle
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the slope is the change in y / change in x

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rise / run

tulip musk
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sorry I thought it was rise x run

vapid shuttle
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it is rise/run

tulip musk
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5/8.5

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=5.88235….

vapid shuttle
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no

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choose two x-values from your table

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the difference between them is the run

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the difference between the y-values that go with them is the rise

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then do rise/run

tulip musk
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0.5?

vapid shuttle
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mhm

tulip musk
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Alr lemme try the other one

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does the next one = -3?

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humble tiger
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uh yeah honestly

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confused about where to start

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im assuming u need to

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find some kind of closed form expression

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instead of recursive

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maybe u can use like finite differences somehow

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idk im jsut stuckk ugh

weary wyvern
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Maybe write a few terms and find a pattern

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Or let b_n = a_n/a_n-1 and rearrange for b_n

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Which seems to be possible

humble tiger
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hm lemme try

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whats the rationale

weary wyvern
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Just that it seems possible

humble tiger
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oh shoot nvm tis easy

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clear pattern

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thanks

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LOL

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.end

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whats the thign

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.stop

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proven leaf
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!status

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What step are you on?
1. I don't know where to begin
2. I have begun but got stuck midway
3. I got an answer but I'm told it's wrong
4. I got an answer and would like my work checked
5. I have a question about someone else's worked solution
6. None of the above
vapid basin
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2

proven leaf
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where are you stuck? :)

vapid basin
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well getting the two possible k values i can find the gradient of the two lines using negative reciprocals and stuff

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but i just dont get how u can get two k values in the first place

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do u use simulatneous to find? im just stuck there

proven leaf
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well "two" possibile values of k is kind of a gives away that we're dealing with a quadratic

vapid basin
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riight

proven leaf
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so can you show any work that you've done so far?

vapid basin
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mm not rly

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sorry

proven leaf
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alright so do you know the midpoint formula?

vapid basin
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yeah

proven leaf
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so what is the midpoint of A and B?

vapid basin
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(3, -3+k/2)

proven leaf
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ok good! :) but make sure you use parantheses

vapid basin
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ya sry its just hard on keyboard

proven leaf
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so now we need the line for A and B, do you know how to get a line using only two points? thonk

vapid basin
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the gradient?

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wdym by line?

proven leaf
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like the line that passes through these two points

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the equation of the line or just the line 😂

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well the equation would be more helpful lmao

vapid basin
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oh haha

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uh yeah

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so well ive worked ou the gradient as (k+5)/-4

proven leaf
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alright! now we just need the y-intercept

vapid basin
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oh so what method are u using to find the equation of the line

proven leaf
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well we know the equation of a line is y=mx+b, right?

vapid basin
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yes

proven leaf
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so we mave m

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and we have (x,y) because that's just one of our points!

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so we can solve for b hype

vapid basin
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sry i was using this form

proven leaf
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oh ok actually that works fine too

vapid basin
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yeah so i think what i got was

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y= (k+5)/-4 (x-5)+3

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using the points

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of A

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(5,-3)

proven leaf
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I don't agree with that answer thonk

vapid basin
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mm okay

proven leaf
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so we have $y-(-3)=-\frac{k+5}{4}(x-5)$

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vapid basin
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WOW

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U CAN DO THAT

proven leaf
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if we plug in directly

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LOOKS SO COOL

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vapid basin
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sorry getting distracted

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ohhhhhh

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so is it -3 at the end

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whoooops

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but i was close right

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i thought i did it all wrong

proven leaf
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ok now we have our line, so what's our slope?

vapid basin
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(k+5)/-4

proven leaf
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now if we want the perpendicular line

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what would be the slope?

vapid basin
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u swap

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so

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4/(k+5)

proven leaf
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yep :) so we want the perpenicular bisector

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so we use the slope-point formula

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with our midpoint and new slope hype

vapid basin
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oh okay

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gimmie a sec

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okay so

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i got

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y = 4/(k+5) (x-3) - (3+k)/2

proven leaf
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ok so now, we use our final piece of information

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this line crosses through the x-axis at -2

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so what would be that coordinate point? :)

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DO U SUBSTITUDE -2 FOR X AND 0 FOR Y

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OR AM I BEING DUMB

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wait...

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WAIT DO U

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omg omg

proven leaf
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that's what crosses the x-axis means, no? :)

vapid basin
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waiiittt

proven leaf
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now, you will get a quadratic for k

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and get two solutions just as wanted

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quadratic for k... hmm wait gimmie a sec

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OHH BECAUSE DENOMENATOR

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u need to do cross multiplication right

proven leaf
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wait so if i substitute -2,0 for x and y

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it gives me 0 = -4/(k+5)-(3+k)/2

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since they are both negative i can just multiply both by -1 to make it easier to work with right

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so they become positive?

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whew okay thanks 😂

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is the numerator 8 + (k+5) (3+k) ??

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sounds about right

vapid basin
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well ig the denominator will just dissapear if u times by 0

proven leaf
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but we'll come back to that dw so don't forget abt that denominator

vapid basin
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wait ok

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so

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k^2 + 8k + 23 = 0

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then i use quad formula find the two answers?

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would that be correct?

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not factorable so gotta use formula

vapid basin
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hmm?

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ohy yeah yhea

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hmm

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no real roots

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did i do something wrong

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maybe the last part

proven leaf
vapid basin
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using the slope point formula

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but lemme double check

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hmm i dont see anything wrong with it

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could u help me out

proven leaf
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that's what im tryna do ;-;

vapid basin
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sorryy

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we have $y = \frac{4}{k+5}(x-3) - \frac{k+3}{2}$ at $(-2,0)$, right?

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vapid basin
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yes

proven leaf
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so this lends us $0 = \frac{4}{k+5}(-5) - \frac{k+3}{2}$

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OHHH

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but idk what difference that would make it's kinda late tbh

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NO BECAUSE HAHA I DID -2 - 3 AS -1

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im so sorry for wasting ur time man

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if you were wasting my time I'd leave, I'm still here blobsalute

vapid basin
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so -5

proven leaf
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yep then maybe try to do the algebra

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see if it generates a better answer

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ah damnit

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still getting complex roots

vapid basin
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YEAH

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i think

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hmm

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actually idk what im talking abt 😭

proven leaf
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ur slope is wrong I think

vapid basin
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do u think the question could be faulty

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oh nvm

proven leaf
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like the one at the very beginning ;-;

vapid basin
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oh lemme check

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omg

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UR RIGHT AGAIN

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k+3

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not k+5

proven leaf
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there that might get us a better answer :)

vapid basin
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bro my handwriting actually screws things everytime man

proven leaf
vapid basin
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ok what is wrong this time

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😭

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still no real roots

proven leaf
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uh oh pandaOhNo

vapid basin
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do u think its the question

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because i thought if it was gonna be yk giving actual roots

proven leaf
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4/(k+3) is the slope of the bisector

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plug in the midpoint (3, -3+k/2)

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check the line again hang on

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$y=\frac{4}{k+3}x+b$

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proven leaf
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$\frac{k-3}{2}=\frac{4}{k+3}(3)+b$

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XxMrFancyu2xX

proven leaf
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$b=\frac{k-3}{6}-\frac{4}{k+3}$

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XxMrFancyu2xX

proven leaf
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$=$\fbox{$\frac{(k-3)(k+3)-24}{6(k+3)}$}

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there that's b

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that's the issue

vapid basin
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$y=\frac{4}{k+3}x+\frac{(k-3)(k+3)-24}{6(k+3)}$ at $(-2,0)$

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proven leaf
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woww

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okay

proven leaf
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this is algebra bootcamp right here

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thanks man, saving my brain right now

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wait wouldnt that mean k would become k^3

proven leaf
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where k^3 come form?

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we have $0=\frac{-8}{k+3}+\frac{(k-3)(k+3)-24}{6(k+3)}$, right?

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vapid basin
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yeah

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oh do u

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cancell

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the two k+3

proven leaf
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helps to write it out don't it :) and you can multiply everything by 6

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now we just have a quadratic my friend!

vapid basin
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thanksss

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omg thats been a long one

proven leaf
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get real roots finally? kekw

vapid basin
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hold on lemmme solve it

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and expand rq

proven leaf
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I actually enjoyed that, shaved off the rust of my algebra skills which needed a good derusting tbh

vapid basin
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wait quick question

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when u cancell the two k+3

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and ur left with the numerator as (k-3)-24

proven leaf
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wait hold on

vapid basin
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is it just k-27

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I think we have to different interpretations of "cancel k+3's"

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$0=\frac{-8}{k+3}+\frac{(k-3)(k+3)-24}{6(k+3)}$\
$0=\frac{-48}{6(k+3)}+\frac{(k-3)(k+3)-24}{6(k+3)}$\
$0=\frac{-48}{\cancel{6(k+3)}}+\frac{(k-3)(k+3)-24}{\cancel{6(k+3)}}$\
\fbox{$0=-48+(k-3)(k+3)-24$}

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vapid basin
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oh okay i see

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wait so u can just multiply by 6

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just like that

proven leaf
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only because I did it to top and bottom

vapid basin
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i think my algebra skills arent too sharp lol

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riight but u dont have to for the other one

proven leaf
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I think abt it like this $\frac{a}{b}\cdot1=\frac{a}{b}\cdot\frac{a}{a}=\frac{a^2}{ab}$\
$\implies\frac{a}{b}=\frac{a^2}{ab}$

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proven leaf
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so as long as we multiply to top and bottom

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we can multiply whatever we like

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and the fraction does not change :))

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as long as we do multiplication the same doesn't hold for addition

vapid basin
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but because the other side is a 0 it doesnt matter because 0 times 6 is always 0

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okayy i see

proven leaf
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that's not the reason

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the reason is im multiplying by 6/6

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which is 1

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and mutliplication by one just keeps it the same

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$a\cdot1=a$

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vapid basin
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are u multiplying it by 6/6?

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i thought

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oh wait u areee

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sry took a while for me to see that\

proven leaf
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nah ur good :)

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math is learning experience

vapid basin
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IS THE ANSWER

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PLUS OR MINUS 9

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K = +- 9

proven leaf
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could be lemme check desmos rq

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seems right but if you can check with your teacher or another person cause im tired :))

vapid basin
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THANK U SO MUCH

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have a good rest of ur day or perhaps goodnight

proven leaf
vapid basin
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haha no worriess

proven leaf
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I try not to give people bad advice to the best of my ability

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hope you continue to learn math it's pretty fun if you give it a shot! enjoy! helper_heart

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thanksss

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ur such a big help

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oh before i go i just redid the question and there was just a slight error with ur working but its fineee u were tired and i had so many errors aswell

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Is it correct

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Thats me. How can I help?

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If you are asking then it is probably not, but yes, I will check. Give me background on the subject.

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Can u elaborate

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Is that true

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Is it always happens? The expression wrote in blue ink

vale wigeon
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Does it always happen? The expression written in blue ink

cinder sundial
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Thank you

vale wigeon
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no, it only happens if p and r/q are either both positive or both negative.

cinder sundial
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Is there any rule that explains this phenomenon

vale wigeon
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a > b > 0 implies 1/a < 1/b

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it is not hard to prove yourself with basic inequality properties

cinder sundial
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It’s not that intuitive in my opinion, like ppl might often forget to change the “direction” of inequality

cinder sundial
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the parentheses are redundant here

vale wigeon
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That is, the inequality has to changed when we reciprocal those

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what is 1+1

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Don’t troll bruh

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bro

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I ned help

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Someone said 3

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and someone said 11

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I aint trollin

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1+1 is actually 10

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if you're going to troll, at least do it well

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ok sir

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someone pls help meeeeeeeeeeee

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can you guys help me solve
I actually got an problem with it like
it looks easy but actually hard lol
I forgot how to solve those things.

[44×{(33+21)+(50-15)}]=[{40+(36-28)}÷2] × [99× 22]

balmy ridge
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pls

echo socket
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Use a calculator

balmy ridge
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...

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I dont have it

vale wigeon
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this is an arithmetic problem

balmy ridge
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I lost it

echo socket
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You have internet

vale wigeon
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do you know how to add, subtract, multiply and divide?

balmy ridge
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ye but

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I mess all of those

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up

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yk

vale wigeon
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then do it slowly and one thing at a time

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do you have paper?

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ye

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yes

vale wigeon
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ok

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then work it out on paper slowly

balmy ridge
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I think I should do it slowly

vale wigeon
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one step at a time

balmy ridge
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ok

vale wigeon
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ensuring that each arithmetic operation is done correctly before moving on to the next

balmy ridge
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ok sir

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thx for the help

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please don't call me sir.

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but you're welcome

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I trying to find how many numbers have 6 or 8 but not 6 and 8 in an inclusive range of l, n. I plan on using the inclusion-exclusion method (as seen here: https://math.stackexchange.com/questions/19682/how-many-eight-digit-numbers-are-there-that-contain-both-a-5-and-a-6/19685#19685) but I don't know how. I am really bad at math.

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I have a question on dot products

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Hello

safe tartan
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in the formula a . b =|a|^2+|b|^2-|a-b|^2,

cedar hatch
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🙂

safe tartan
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and a is lets say u+v

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can you expand the brackets so |u+v|^2 can you expand?

cedar hatch
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Hard Problem

echo socket
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|u + v|^2 = (u + v)^2, so yeah, you can expand that

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So it becomes |u|^2 + 2u*v + |v|^2

safe tartan
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oh

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i didnt know you could multiply vectors

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i c

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could i then ask for help on this question?

echo socket
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What question

safe tartan
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for question b, i found the dot products of op or and pr oq

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and equated them, which left me with a final expression of

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and then i have no clue what to do lmao

charred violet
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Just want to point out that from a.b = |a|^2+|b|^2-|a-b|^2 we can re arrange to find

|a-b|^2 = |a|^2+|b|^2-a.b

safe tartan
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is this applicable here or jsut something to note

echo socket
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If OPQR is a square, wouldn't you need to just say OP*OR = 0 and |OP| = |OR|?

brisk bay
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This is a parallelogram

echo socket
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So OR is 2a - 3b, right?

safe tartan
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yep

echo socket
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So (a + b)(2a - 3b) = 0
And 2|a|^2 - a.b - 3|b|^2 = 0

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Hm, it seems like we need to prove that a.b = |b|^2

safe tartan
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wait how did u get the second line again

echo socket
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(a + b)(2a - 3b) = 2a.a - 3b.a + 2a.b - 3b.b = 2a^2 - 3a.b + 2a.b - 3b^2 = 2|a|^2 - a.b - 3|b|^2

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you forgot to use the second information, which is |OP|=|QR|

echo socket
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And the other condition is that |a + b| = |2a - 3b|

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Yeah I was about to mention its implications

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which just implies that |OP|^2=|QR|^2, and use dot product to find ab

echo socket
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So here we can square

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And get |a|^2 + 2a.b + |b|^2 = 4|a|^2 - 12a.b + 9|b|^2 or 3|a|^2 - 14a.b + 8|b|^2 = 0

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We obtain a system of equations
2|a|^2 - a.b - 3|b|^2 = 0
3|a|^2 - 14a.b + 8|b|^2 = 0

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a.b could be get rid of by multiplying the first equation by -14 and adding the equations up

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Let's see

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So it's
-25|a|^2 + 50|b|^2 = 0

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Hence |a| = 2|b|^2

safe tartan
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thats

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wow

safe tartan
echo socket
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Just collect similar terms together in the first equation of that message

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ah shit mb

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ok yep i understood it

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thanks lonely bean

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wow hankukin

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anyone that can help me interpret this ACF plot for a hmm?

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Normally (for time series at least) you would plot +2- * sqrt(n) (+- 2 standard error) and then approx 95% of the sample ACFs should be within these limits.

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I would suggest taking a step back. Why do you want to plot ACF?

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I was told stuff like introducing more covariates (feedback mechanisms to account for history) or states could solve that

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While the ACF plot itself may not directly inform the structure of an HMM, it can help in model selection, parameter estimation, and diagnosing potential issues.

silk terrace
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I can only find one ressource with a similar acf graph and it says that a trend is present but doesn't explain further than that

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You should look at ACF of residuals if you aren't

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This is basically what I am using in the package:

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Sure looks fine from description

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So it is actually the acf of the pseudo residuals. I did not even notice that

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so the plot above is actually acf of the residuals. I am now even more confused on how to interpret it haha.

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but this is the thing I am not seeing it is relatively new for me. If the residuals is showing a trend: i.e "shorter lags typically have large positive correlations because observations closer in time tend to have similar values. The correlations taper off slowly as the lags increase." Why is that necessarily bad

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in other words: why is a trend in the ACF plot a indication that my model does a relative poor job of explaning the data

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Wait can I see the ACF plot of the observed data

silk terrace
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What does that have to do with anything. Its just ur data (which is stored in some vector or whatever)

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Nothing about your HMM

silk terrace
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let me see give me a moment

noble sinew
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So as long as your residual ACF looks similar to the ACF of the observed data it should be fine

silk terrace
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the decrease is much more steep in the residual ACF but what would be 'too different'/similar and what do we mean by fine in this case

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as in the model fits alright if they are similar?

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Its the only thing that makes sense to do if looking at ACF as far as I can see. Though I have no idea why one would ever do this over just splitting data up into training and test data.

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You are the one that said it, though lol. Training data would make sense if patterns in both cases were similar. I think we aren't getting any further so I am closing. Ty

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What? Its very common to split data in machine learning, time series data is no exception.

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So the problem says:
Find the roots of z^3 - (8+i)z^2 + (24 + 4i)z - (24 - 6i) = 0. Knowing that the product of 2 of them is 15 + 9i.
How would u approach this?

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Also, the sum of the three roots is 8+i

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See if you can do it from here

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Let the roots be $\alpha, \beta, \gamma$ and consider the expansion of $$(z-\alpha)(z-\beta)(z-\gamma)$$

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alpine sable
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yeah, that should be my polinomio, right?

rustic coral
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Yeah

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and i know 2 of the are 15+9i

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how do i find the third?

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It's how you derive Vieta's

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It's essentially ||comparing coefficients after you expand||

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ah

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I think I understand what this problem is asking me but I’m not sure because the diagram is showing a weird right angle triangle?

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I think that's just supposed to represent that B is above A

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Okay, ill give it a try

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I dont understand how to solve this. The solution doesn't make sense to me. Why can't (1/7)*(1/6) work?

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Please solve this <@&286206848099549185>

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3D Geometry question

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This channel is occupied, bro. Can you use one of the available ones? they're the channels that are above these ones.

torn elk
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First of all, what is the total number of ways to assign 7 students to 7 chairs?

foggy mica
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is it 7!?

torn elk
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Yes, now how many ways to assign Sam and Chris to the 2 special chairs? (which is the events we are interested in).

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2!?

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2, so

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what are th total number of ways to assign the remainin 5 students to the remaining 5 chairs?

foggy mica
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5!

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What is the favorable outcomes then?

foggy mica
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uhh what does that mean?

torn elk
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the number of favorable outcomes for the event we're interested in, which is Sam and Chris being assigned to the special chairs.

foggy mica
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oh is it 2 and 5!?

torn elk
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and is not a valid operator in this context

foggy mica
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oh

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so what do i use instead of and?

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times

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2 * 5!

foggy mica
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but im only used to multiplying probablities, how is 2 and 5! a probability?

torn elk
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2 comes from 2!

foggy mica
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yeah

torn elk
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so you're gonna use outcomes now

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the probability of an event is the number of favorable outcomes divided by the total number of outcomes

foggy mica
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ohhh ok so I multiply the favorable outcomes when there is an and in between them

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ok thanks a lot

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np

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quick question, w the rule where if a^m = a^n then m = n, cant i set a = 1 and 'prove' that any number is equal to another number? like 1^2 = 1^3 therefore 2 = 3

im new w understanding logs so u might have to dumb it down for me 😓

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XxMrFancyu2xX

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What really happens is we get: $1^3=1^2\implies3\ln(1)=2\ln(2)\implies3\cdot0=2\cdot0\implies$\fbox{$0=0$}

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XxMrFancyu2xX

proven leaf
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nvm I did it right lol

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thought I did something wrong kekw

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you dont have to argue with logarithms here. from the start, the property that a^m=a^n implies m=n is just not true for a=1

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but there were asking about logarithms anyways so I thought I'd just show them why we can't cancel logarithms of 1 :)

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ahhh okay yeah both points make sense thanks from both :)

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orchid perch
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$\forall x P(x)$equals just $P(x)$ right

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metnal

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hmmm i guess i'd have to state that x arbitrary from the universe of disourse

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i need help

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desert olive
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I got that answer but I don't know why it is wrong

worn fox
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leave your answer in terms of pi
for a start

desert olive
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i did

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5760?

desert olive
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yeah

worn fox
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thats not in terms of pi

desert olive
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it is

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I just changed it but it is still wrong

gray isle
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what did you change it to

desert olive
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the same ans pi

gray isle
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show your work

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i di

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did

gray isle
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where

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how are you getting 5760 or 5760pi

desert olive
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it is not clear

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do you have a clearer pic

desert olive
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nope

gray isle
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even looking closer, i don't see the full work

desert olive
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i did 5428.67-3619.114737

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and doesn't show where you're getting
5760

desert olive
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but it was terms in pi

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in terms of pi means that you actually have the symbol pi in it

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i.e. you shouldn't have used a calculator to multiply pi(6^2)48
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1728pi

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same idea for the volume of the spheres

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regardless that doesn't get you anything close to 5760

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dumb question but this is true right

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Yes :P

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thanks a lot 🌑 🌙 🌝

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But this would lead to triangle EXF congurent to triangle CXB which is stupid

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So where is my mistake

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And there is some bug with the sever because of which my previous channel is not visible to me

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Is this a convex function? (|x|)

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you can use the definition directly

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(alternatively use the second derivative test)

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what does this question mean by "corresponding coordinates"?

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nevermind i understand

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i need help

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errant shuttle
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i need help in math i have a end of year test this friday

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It's June but alright

errant shuttle
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wdym

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nevermind

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errant shuttle
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i got to learn all 16 chapters in a math book

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i need help with algebra and surds

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and direct propertion and ration and y=mx-c

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errant shuttle
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ok ratio of 15243:7823

wind cloak
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,w reduce 15243/7823

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Coprime numbers