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ocean bloom
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sorry for disturbing 🫠
but it seems interesting

pure mirage
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integrated 1/x to get ln(|x|), inside of the integral I multiplied numerator and denominator with 1 + log(x) of the second summand to get the numerator

opaque tiger
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I GOT IT

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But

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Wait actually

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Hold on

pure mirage
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$\frac 1x = \frac{1 + x\log(x)}{x + x^2 \log(x)}$ and now [\frac{1 - x}{x + x^2 \log(x)} - \frac 1x] can be simplified to [\frac{1 + \log(x)}{1 + x \log(x)}]

ocean bloom
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after the subtraction thing in the integral in observation
it comes out to be

$\int\frac{1}{1+xlog(x)} dx $

opaque tiger
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In the answer key the last term of the answer is negative

pure mirage
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Wait a sec, maybe there is a sign error somewhere

ocean bloom
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as it comes out to be -x

ocean bloom
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ig

pure mirage
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Yes, actually that last integral should be - int 1 + log(x) / 1 + x log(x)

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[\frac{1 - x}{x + x^2 \log(x)} - \frac 1x = \frac{1 - x}{x + x^2 \log(x)} - \frac{1 + x \log(x)}{x + x^2 \log(x)} = \frac{1 - x - 1 - x \log(x)}{x + x^2 \log(x)}] [= \frac{- x - x \log(x)}{x + x^2 \log(x)} = - \frac{1 + \log(x)}{1 + x \log(x)}]

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\begin{align*}
\int \frac{1+x^2\log(x)}{x+x^2\log(x)}\dd x &=\int \frac{1-x+x+x^2\log(x)}{x+x^2\log(x)} \dd x\
&=\int 1 \dd x + \int \frac{1-x}{x+x^2\log(x)}\dd x\
&=x + C +\int \left(\frac{1-x}{x+x^2\log(x)}-\frac1x\right)\dd x+\int \frac1x \dd x\
&=x + C' + \ln(|x|) + \int -\frac{1+\log(x)}{1+x\log(x)}\dd x\
&=x + \ln(|x|) - \log(1+x\log(x)) + C''
\end{align*}

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pure mirage
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There

ocean bloom
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damn beautiful

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perfect @pure mirage ✨

pure mirage
ocean bloom
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nice solution there

opaque tiger
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Forreals

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Thanks kepe

pure mirage
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np

opaque tiger
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These questions are so hard bro idek if I'm making progress

pure mirage
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Just do more of them

opaque tiger
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Makes sense

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Thanks again

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sullen lagoon
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Anyone can help with this problem: You submerge the iron sphere with diameter d and density 8000 kg/m3 into mercury with density 13500. How much of d is submerged?

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sullen lagoon
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2

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I integrated the submerged part and got a cubic but i have no idea how to continue

bright wind
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Just... Show the work

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sullen lagoon
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I will have to write everything again if I want to show it to you because it’s quite messy. Basically I equated the force of sphere and the force with which the mercury pushes the sphere up and the I integrated the submerged part and i got a cubic that I can’t solve

hardy coral
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Archimedes' principle?

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hardy coral
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So the displaced volume, in mercury, weighs as much as the object

sullen lagoon
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Exactly

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"Give an example of a linear transformation which is left invertible but not right invertible"

umbral cipher
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Could I get a hint 🥺

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Oh I think I got it

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Maybe T: R3 to R2 with (xyz) goes to (xy)

ruby sleet
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So what would a left inverse of T be?

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I'll be honest I think you mixed up left and right invertible

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Because you now need to find $S:\bR^2\to \bR^3$ such that $S\circ T = Id_{\bR^3}$

rocky lotusBOT
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Raphaelisius Maximus MMIII

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umbral cipher
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Oh I see

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Forgot which direction it goes

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Ty

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bitter ice
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I can’t wrap my head around why we are plugging 6 into y for the inverse function as the last step. I get how to implicitly differentiate but not this f inverse prime 6

frozen ledge
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do you know the formula for the derivative of the inverse?

bitter ice
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yes

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i found that

frozen ledge
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if $f$ and $g$ are inverses then $g'(x) = \frac{1}{f'(g(x))}$

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bitter ice
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yes I understand that

frozen ledge
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ok so whats the issue

bitter ice
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its the finding f inverse prime of 6

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like what is that even asking

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is it an x value

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is it a y value?

frozen ledge
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its just 1/f'(f^-1(6)) and f^-1(6) is the solution to f(x) = 6

bitter ice
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and thats also not the question

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its not asking f(x) = 6

frozen ledge
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bro what

frozen ledge
bitter ice
frozen ledge
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💀

bitter ice
frozen ledge
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i never said it was

bitter ice
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no wait

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1/5 is the answer

frozen ledge
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,w solve x^3 + 2x + 3 = 6

frozen ledge
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yea its 1/(3 + 2) = 1/5

bitter ice
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im very confused

frozen ledge
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f^{-1}(6) = 1

bitter ice
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mhm

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but like

frozen ledge
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f'(f^{-1}(6)) = f'(1) = 3(1)^2 + 2(1) = 5

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then take the reciprocal

bitter ice
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i cant wrap my head around why we plug in 6 to the original function for x

frozen ledge
bitter ice
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or y for the inverse

frozen ledge
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lets use g instead of f^-1

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f^-1 gets clunky

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you want to find g'(6)

bitter ice
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yes

frozen ledge
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$g'(6) = \frac{1}{f'(g(6))}$

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frozen ledge
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by definition of inverse, g(6) is value such that f(x) = 6

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yes?

bitter ice
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yes sir

frozen ledge
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ok then we found g(6) = 1 by solving f(x) = x^3 + 2x + 3 = 6

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yes?

bitter ice
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this is the part that trips me up

bitter ice
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yes i understand that part

frozen ledge
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the solution to the equation f(x) = 6 is g(6)

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so we solve for x

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x^3 + 2x + 3 = 6

bitter ice
frozen ledge
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g(6) = 1

bitter ice
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so we can say g(6) is equal to f(x) = 6 right?

frozen ledge
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not equal to an equation, equal to the real solution of the equation

bitter ice
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gotcha

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so then i have f(x) = 6 so i just plug in 6 for our original f(x)

frozen ledge
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🤔

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wdym?

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think back to algebra when youd solve equations like f(x) = 0

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to find the zeros of a function

bitter ice
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mhm

frozen ledge
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you found the values of x such that the equation was true

bitter ice
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yeah

frozen ledge
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thats like what we are doing here

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we are solving the equation f(x) = 6

bitter ice
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yeah i get that

frozen ledge
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finding what value we need to plug in to f to get 6

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that is f^-1(6)

bitter ice
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mhm

frozen ledge
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ok then as per the formula that is the value we plug into f'

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we found g(6) = 1

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so we plug 1 into f'

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then the inverse is the reciprocal of that

bitter ice
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yeah i get the rest

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ty

frozen ledge
bitter ice
# frozen ledge inverses derivative

last thing, when inversing a function like I need to do in this question. When doing implicit differentiation, should I change x's to y's and vice versa?

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because I was taught when inversing to switch x and y then isolate for the new y

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but in this case there is no isolating because we are doing it through implicit differentiation

frozen ledge
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oftentimes that algebraic technique wont work

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they just ask you for the derivative at a point

bitter ice
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mhm

bitter ice
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its still in respect of x

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but then the variables cant switch

frozen ledge
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,w plot x^3 + 2x + 3

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frozen ledge
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,w inverse of x^3 + 2x + 3

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frozen ledge
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its a nightmare expresssion

bitter ice
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like I want to do this the way my prof is teaching it

bitter ice
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like how would I do this the way hes teaching it

frozen ledge
bitter ice
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hm?

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the graphs?

frozen ledge
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no

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y^3 + 2y - 3 = 0

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he just did inspection

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plugged in 1 and saw it worked

bitter ice
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oh that was my work

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lmaooo

frozen ledge
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oh

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yea thats how anyone would do it

bitter ice
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like i did all the work but I jsut have no clue why we are plugging in 6 as the independant variable

frozen ledge
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perhaps you're not understanding the formula

bitter ice
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yeah probably not

frozen ledge
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they asked you to find the derivative of the inverse at x = 6

bitter ice
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but he never gave us the formula

bitter ice
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thank you

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oh my god

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im mad at myself

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...

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knief i got bad news

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i was lookng at this trying to wrap my head around it for like an hour on the train

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and didnt notice the theorem at the bottom of the page

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heavy juniper
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So when doing Q = A/B where Q is a quotient group, then B must be a normal subgroup of A?

next vortex
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yes, quotient groups are only defined for normal subgroups

stark wedge
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yes

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it makes no sense otherwise

next vortex
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if B is not normal, the group operation is not well-defined

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Thanks

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What does the sum $\sum\limits_{k\geq1}(-1)^k\frac{(2\pi l)^{2k}}{(2k)!}, l\in \mathbb{Z}$ converge to?

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wary panther
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That makes a lot of sense

honest stone
wary panther
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Ive gone down a rabbithole

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of trying to find multiplicities of zeros

honest stone
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Wolfram has a surprisingly simple answer but I haven’t a clue on how it would be dervied… eeveethink

wary panther
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of the function exp(z)-1

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yeah

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the answer should be zero

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and this should be the cosine function

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for any l in Z

honest stone
wary panther
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i do know about the taylor series of cos(x)

opaque stratus
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here are 10 points marked on a circle, and chords are drawn form each pair of points if no three chords concur at a point strictly inside a circle find the number of intersections strictly inside the circle (which are meeting are meeting point of two chords)

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winter chasm
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hi

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winter chasm
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my question is the The Riemann Hypothesis

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winter chasm
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im not

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signal chasm
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part b

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hollow rune
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Depends on how much precision you want tbh, and there are a few ways, have you been taught any?

signal chasm
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i know

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that u use the expansion

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and subsitute x=1/100 into it

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but idk abt the find approximation for root 5

hollow rune
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Ill take it you already know the method used for a)

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You should be able to factorize out a (1-x)^1/2 instead of sqrt5

signal chasm
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wdym

hollow rune
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Ill take it you did the first a) by first factorizing out into a 1/2 . (1-20x)^1/2

Here you can do something similar

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$\sqrt{5}=\sqrt{4+1}=\sqrt{4(1+\frac{1}{4})}=2\sqrt{1+\frac{1}{4}}$

rocky lotusBOT
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∫ᴄ 𝐅·𝑑𝑟 = ∬ʀ ∇⨯𝐅 𝑑𝐴

signal chasm
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ohhhhhh

hollow rune
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From there you should be able to work out a good approximation

signal chasm
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so we make the thing in the surds

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equal to one another

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and find x

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sub back into approx?

hollow rune
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Yeah. Theres a lot of good ways to find aproximations anyways

signal chasm
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i tried

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doing the method

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u did

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i somehow got it wrong

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zealous pendant
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You shouldn’t find x here, just put 1/100 into x

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You should have an approximation of (1/4-5x)^(1/2), if you put x=1/100 into that you get an approximation for 1/sqrt(5)

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Then do 1/ it to get approximation for sqrt(5)

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orchid flower
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I'm unsure if the part i solved is correct. If i remember correctly, integral of graph like this shouldn't give negative value. What part i did wrong?

hidden terrace
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You can't integrate f(x) directly because you don't even know what it is

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Right now you're treating it as f(x) = x

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The solution lies in a relationship between the two integrals

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Try drawing the relevant areas in the plane

orchid flower
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Like this part?

hidden terrace
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That's the first integral

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What about the second?

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Again, draw a diagram

orchid flower
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One sec i think i found the connection

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Is it like this

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Because of it being an x function rather than y function

hidden terrace
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Yes

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The area should now be a simple calculation

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2 box right?

hidden terrace
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Yeah

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Omg thank you

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any idea...how do i write this in a structured or short way (in understandable manner)..

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ratio of girls to boys is 3:4 so there are 3n girls and 4n boys

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boys' avg height is our goal so call it x

the entire group's avg height is x-3

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Can anyone help

keen tundra
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do you know how you rationalize a fraction like this?

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||you multiply both denominator and numerator by the conjugate of the denominator||

coral nacelle
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Ya I know that part I wanna check my answers if I’m correct tbo

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Cuz I’m not sure if I’m missing some steps

keen tundra
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show your work then

coral nacelle
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Okay one sec

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My bad if the writing not clear

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Kaladin.

deft hornet
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then what

fossil warren
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-7...?

deft hornet
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oh

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right

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i forgot

coral nacelle
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Ahhh my bad I didint see that part

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Kaladin.

fossil warren
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Nothing wrong with the second one.

coral nacelle
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Alr I js have to make sure I look at the question again basically

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This is one of the easier questions but have a hard time getting started, i kinda know how to factorise but i dont know how to start.

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For a function ( f(x, y) ) developed around ( (2,2) ), the following holds:

$$
p_4(h, k) - p_3(h, k) = \frac{4h^4 - 32h^3k + 102h^2k^2 - 140hk^3 + 61k^4}{3}
$$

and

$$
f(3,3) - p_4(1,1) = \frac{17}{3} + 0.03002\ldots
$$

Which function is ( f(x, y) )?

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tawny moon
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is this an MCQ?

naive lotus
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Been doing research online, came to conclusion theres more than 1 function have these requirments. But my teacher keep saying against lol

hazy pivot
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What exactly is p_n

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Are they related to f in any way or are they just arbitrary functions

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!original

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i have a question

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hello

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can you help me guys to do it without using integrals to find the expression of f(x)

sharp whale
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d/dx both sides of f(x) = x
nvm this doesn’t work

inner path
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The derivative is negative everywhere on R+, so as x increases f(x) decreases

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In fact it is strictly decreasing

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Oh to find the expression of f, no you just have to integrate it

sharp whale
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the only way to find what f(x) is is by integrating
but the question only needs you to prove that f(x) = x has 1 solution, you don’t need to find it (in this case you likely can’t)
use that f(x) - x is strictly decreasing to prove there can only be up to 1 solution

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Yea okay thats what I was going to sayc

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And also note the existence is guaranteed by IVT

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the test this is on is already finished and i have no more attemps this is soley for personal understanding

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but i am confused on how to work out the second part where it asks

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as in how the tension in EB affects the tension in the sperate ish system that BC is in

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silent dagger
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just for fun;
how can i graph sin/cos of x that doesn't cross the x-axis?
what about sin/cos of x multiplied by x? log of x?

distant galleon
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,w graph sin x + 2

rocky lotusBOT
tawny moon
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,w graph sin x - 2

silent dagger
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found one such case:
$f(x)\cdot\cos(x)+f(x)$

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Weathers

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thanks y'all! o/

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/e wave

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hello, do you have a math question to ask?

onyx tusk
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I'm genuinely clueless on how to do this

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ok first off, http://nohello.net/ and you should post the question as your first message usually.

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now that that's out of the way

stark wedge
stark wedge
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and you said you were clueless.

onyx tusk
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Ok but up until that part

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I'm clueless

stark wedge
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...where is the third y coming from in the perimeter tho

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shouldn't it be 32x + 2y = 80?

onyx tusk
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Oops

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Careless mistake

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Maybe that's why I didn't get my answer this whole time..

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Wait gimme a while

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to try redoing it

stark wedge
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your area equation looks correct to me, for the record

onyx tusk
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Ok I thought I figured it out but nvm

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Ignore the oil stain I was eating chicken

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I tried using sum of roots and product of roots to see if it can help me in some way but ehhhhhh

stark wedge
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this step is wrong

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$12 \times \frac{a}{b} \neq \frac{12a}{12b}$

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stark wedge
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also (80-32x)/2 could have and should have been simplified

onyx tusk
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Ouhhhh

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Okok holon

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Is it like thsi

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Well, I’ve got this piece of crap as a problem. I’m applying the interpolation error theorem to solve it. I’ve determined that the number of nodes is 2, therefore 𝑛=1. By differentiating the expression twice, I end up with cos((pi * x) / 2) * pi * x. Knowing that the maximum value a cosine can take is 1 and that the maximum value of 𝑥 in the interval is 3, I approximated the expression to 3𝜋, taking this as the maximum value of the express.

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For 𝑊𝑛(𝑥), I simply used the approximate expression ∣𝑏−𝑎∣^𝑛+1 resulting in 3^2. When substituting into the theorem’s expression, I realized I don’t know how to include the value of ℎ in the equation. I considered reformulating the 𝑊𝑛(𝑥) term to calculate the nodes according to the value of ℎ, but I’m completely lost.

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sharp whale
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you cant really use this to solve the problem, but the largest step length that ensures error of less than 10^-3 is h = 3/100 (i.e. from 100 subintervals)
this is from testing every value of f(x) so this isnt practical, thats just there if youre curious

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if youre using this formula, the largest step length that ensures this is less than 10^-3 is h = 3/101 (i.e. from 101 subintervals)
this is from testing every value of f''(x) to find its max so its also not practical (you cannot solve for the max)

sharp whale
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to get their solution, you have to use that, for 0 < x < 3,

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as you can imagine this is a pretty bad bound on the max, you know this should be < 3, but using 12 here will get you the same answer that they have

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lmk if you dont understand what Im doing here, I dont think what I did here is very standard

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for b do you just add all three varieence for do you subtract 1.5^2 and add 1.8^2 andfor mean do you just subtract and add the means?

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@keen tundra

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Hi guys

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marble arch
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Hi!

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Question please

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Question first please

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Oops

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Forgot I don’t have the factoid on my phone

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No hi is crazy

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eager sleet
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I have a request no question
Can anyone dm me if you are student in college currently

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to participate at an activity, each student needs to pay their part of the cost of transport by bus, which is of 300$, aswell as the entry at the insectarium, of 8$. Whats the equation of the amount that the students have to spend in fuction of the amount of students that participate at the activity

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hazy pivot
dull cipher
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yeah

hazy pivot
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How much is each student paying for the bus

dull cipher
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300

hazy pivot
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No

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That's the total

dull cipher
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oh

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wait

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300/x

hazy pivot
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Yes

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And how much are they paying for the entry

dull cipher
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8

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300/x + 8?

hazy pivot
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Yup

dull cipher
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oh tysm

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but it asks me aswell the equations of the asymptotes for the curve of the function defined by this equation

hazy pivot
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Well what do you think the asymptotes will be

dull cipher
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the h,k

hazy pivot
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No for this

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The asymptote is essentially smth going to infinity right

dull cipher
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asymptote isn't the coordinate at the half between both curves?

hazy pivot
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Either the function approaches infinity at a point or the function approaches a value at infinity

hazy pivot
dull cipher
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ill show imahge

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wait

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i might be wrong then

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i think the coordinate at the half is just (h,k)

dreamy scroll
dull cipher
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yeah h,k right

dreamy scroll
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but ye you can give it any variable value

dull cipher
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its rational equation

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how can i find the equations for asymptotes

dreamy scroll
dull cipher
dreamy scroll
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and for the vertical one check when the denominator becomes 0

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or the function becomes not defined

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or aproaches any of the infinities whatever you wanna call it

dull cipher
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the equation is f(x) = 300/x + 8 so i gotta replace x with 0

dull cipher
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alright

dreamy scroll
dull cipher
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300/0 says math error

dreamy scroll
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or the expression not defined

dreamy scroll
dull cipher
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oh

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i dont understand so a asymptote can have a equation?

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ah wait nvm i got it

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thanks for ur help

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someone could speak a read in spanish? i dont know how do a problem :c

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Post it and someone will probably come

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I need someone good with word problems

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A company finds it can produce 25 heaters for $5950 , while producing 35 heaters cost $8250. Express the cost y as a linear function and the number of heaters as x. Determine the cost to produce 40 heaters.

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How do we break this down?

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I thought it was midpoint but I just kept getting stuck

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This question has caught me off guard in my stuff twice now

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Anyone good at breaking down word problems?...

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robust wolf
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Would the slope be the cost?

robust wolf
barren imp
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I see

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So...

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I am dont combine the 25 and 35

fleet burrow
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(at least i think that's the solution)

robust wolf
barren imp
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So then the equation would be 5950=mx + 25?

barren imp
robust wolf
robust wolf
barren imp
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So (25+35)/(5950+8250)

robust wolf
barren imp
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I mixed it up

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Ohhhh right its y/x

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Rise over run

robust wolf
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Yes

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Wait

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It's not y/x but you're close

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The slope formula is $(y_{2} - y_{1})/(x_{2} - x_{1})$

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డ్ర్యాగ్లొక్స్

barren imp
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So its the opposite of midpoint but closer to distance

robust wolf
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It's just change in y divided by change in x

fleet burrow
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@barren imp i think you have some very big conceptual misunderstandings and you should probably revise your notes

barren imp
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Slope has always been confusing for me...

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Anyway so ok if I did the math right i got 2300/10

robust wolf
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The slope is 230 in this case

barren imp
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Yes

robust wolf
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And is the price of each heater

barren imp
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So then 230...

robust wolf
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Now you need to find the y-intercept

barren imp
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So intercept-

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Y= 230x +40 right?

robust wolf
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Where'd you get 40 from?

robust wolf
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No the 40 would be something to plug into x

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You have some equation $5950 = 230(25) + b$ solve for b

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Wait

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డ్ర్యాగ్లొక్స్

barren imp
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So where does the 40 come into play because I need to figure out the price of 4 heaters

robust wolf
rocky lotusBOT
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డ్ర్యాగ్లొక్స్

barren imp
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Ah so y=230(40) + b?

robust wolf
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Which is the price of 40 heaters

barren imp
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So in this case what would be 9200?

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I mean-

robust wolf
barren imp
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9200 + b

robust wolf
barren imp
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So b = -9200?

robust wolf
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No

barren imp
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Im getting a little confused here:')

robust wolf
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$5950 = 230(25) + b$ do some algebraic manipulation to get b

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డ్ర్యాగ్లొక్స్

robust wolf
barren imp
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Oh we dont put the 40

robust wolf
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atleast

barren imp
robust wolf
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😭

barren imp
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Anyway

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Ok so I see

robust wolf
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Are you confused with perhaps why we are doing these steps?

barren imp
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Ok so b is 200

robust wolf
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Yes exactly

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Now we have the equation $y = 230x + 200$ Plug in x = 40 and find the y

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డ్ర్యాగ్లొక్స్

barren imp
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Ok

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So then thats how to write the y

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Im looking at some old notes and... there's point set formula?...

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*slope

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And solving for x... is -200/230?...

robust wolf
robust wolf
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Plug in 40 for x

barren imp
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Oh!

robust wolf
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And then you'll get a certain y value

robust wolf
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That's for other things

barren imp
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Ok so ima check- if we plug in y= 230(25)+200
It makes 5950
Y=230(35) +200
It is also 8250

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Ok so then we plug in y=230(40)+200

robust wolf
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Yes

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And then you'll get the price for 40 heaters

barren imp
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We get 9400

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Oooohhh ok now I have a grasp on it

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Can you help me with another area?

robust wolf
barren imp
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No problem I need to take 5 anyway

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No

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...

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Anyone?

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sorry, youre just working on this root problem?

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$\frac{ \sqrt{-35} \sqrt{ -5} }{ \sqrt 7 }$

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jan Niku

mild kernel
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@barren imp

forest lion
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hello

barren imp
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Hello

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Yes

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Its in terms of complex numbers

mild kernel
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what have you tried?

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maybe you have a list of properties of roots that you can use?

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if not we can find one

barren imp
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Well

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I simplied the /-35

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And split it into sqr/7 and sqr/5

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With i outside

mild kernel
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maybe you take an intermediate step there

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$\frac{ \sqrt 7 \sqrt{-5} \sqrt{-5} }{ \sqrt 7 }$

rocky lotusBOT
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jan Niku

barren imp
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But now I have the (sqr)/-5 sitting next to it

mild kernel
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this is after splitting the -35, but without taking out the i

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do you notice anything?

barren imp
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We can get rid of the 7s

mild kernel
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sure, yea

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$\sqrt{-5} \sqrt{-5}$

barren imp
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But what do we do with the 5s?

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jan Niku

mild kernel
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can you think of another way to write this?

rocky lotusBOT
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jan Niku

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jan Niku

mild kernel
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how do we usually write a*a?

barren imp
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Well I dont know with the sqr roots

mild kernel
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but you know its a^2 yea?

barren imp
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Yeah

mild kernel
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$a \cdot a = a^2$

rocky lotusBOT
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jan Niku

barren imp
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They are both negative but would they make 25?

mild kernel
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so then $\sqrt{-5} \sqrt{-5} = \qty( \sqrt{-5} )^2$

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jan Niku

barren imp
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Ohhh

mild kernel
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what happens?

barren imp
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So not 25

mild kernel
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nope

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uh oh blobsweat

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hello swr

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what algebra mistake am i making blobsweat

barren imp
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They cross eachother out?

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What💀

mild kernel
barren imp
neat locust
# barren imp So not 25

Your questions and confusion are valid. You really shouldn't ever have square root of a negative number because you get confused on how to distribute it.

mild kernel
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well theyre doing complex numbers

neat locust
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We still use the imaginary unit i

barren imp
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Well earlier I thought I put the i out

mild kernel
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you can do it that way, too

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so $\sqrt{-5} \sqrt{-5} = i \sqrt 5 \cdot i \sqrt 5$

rocky lotusBOT
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jan Niku

barren imp
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Oh.

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Eh.

mild kernel
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looks like $i^2 \qty( \sqrt 5)^2$

neat locust
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But (as far as i can recall), there should never be square roots of negative numbers

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jan Niku

barren imp
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So i turns to (-1)

mild kernel
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in the front, yea

barren imp
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But the 5...

neat locust
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I'm not saying what you are doing here is wrong, it's just very unfortunate that it is presented to you this way

barren imp
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Is it (-1)5?

mild kernel
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what you have to know is that sqrt and square cancel each other

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yea

mild kernel
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we get the same answer this way, too

barren imp
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So then -5?

mild kernel
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yup

barren imp
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Ok thank you

mild kernel
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its hard to resist the temptation to combine them

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int $\sqrt{ (-5)^2 }$

rocky lotusBOT
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jan Niku

mild kernel
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which seems like the most tempting thing to do

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i think this is just a problem of 2 answers

barren imp
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(I seemed to have made an error somewhere but I do not know where

barren imp
mild kernel
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,calc 4*8

rocky lotusBOT
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Result:

32
mild kernel
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idk my table

barren imp
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I foiled it

mild kernel
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we should get the 4*8 as the first contribution to the real part

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and then 9*6

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yea?

barren imp
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Yes

robust wolf
mild kernel
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so something went wrong

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66 is too low

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should be like 80 or 90 something

barren imp
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Oh wait i meantally added

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Ok so then so far I have

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32-24i +72i-54i²

mild kernel
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sure

robust wolf
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sorry i didnt come earlier, i was doing something and got carried away with it

barren imp
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If we combine the like integers its 32-96i-54i²

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Oh wait-

robust wolf
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yes but there's one more step

barren imp
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Its not 96 its 48

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-48

robust wolf
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yeah

barren imp
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The 54(-1)

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So now we have 32-48i+54

robust wolf
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yeah

barren imp
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So then 86-48i is the result

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Do we simplify it?

robust wolf
robust wolf
barren imp
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Oh

robust wolf
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Cuz you can't really reduce i

barren imp
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Thats true

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Apparently I still did something wrong

robust wolf
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Wait what?

barren imp
mild kernel
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,calc 48 + 96

rocky lotusBOT
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Result:

86
mild kernel
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,calc -46+98

rocky lotusBOT
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Result:

48
mild kernel
barren imp
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What did I do....

mild kernel
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9 times 8 is bigger than 4 times 6

barren imp
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Oh wait-

mild kernel
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so the contributions to the imaginary part

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positive 9 times 8

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negative 4 times 6

barren imp
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Its +48i

mild kernel
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it is, yea

barren imp
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Not -48i

mild kernel
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these problems are 100% just tricks to try to get you to mess up a sign

barren imp
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Yayyy

robust wolf
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messing up signs is like 80% of all math mistakes

mild kernel
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theres others lol

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mess up log/exponent properties

barren imp
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True

mild kernel
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$\frac{1}{a+b} = \frac 1a + \frac 1b$

rocky lotusBOT
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jan Niku

mild kernel
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the usual blobsweat

robust wolf
barren imp
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I hate fractions

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And slope

robust wolf
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yeah fractions are tedious to write sometimes ngl

mild kernel
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once you realize fractions are just exponents it gets better

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well, that is i guess if you are good with exponent problems

barren imp
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I will take all of it over word problems though

mild kernel
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fair, those are just like uhh

robust wolf
mild kernel
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i mean you just have to see all the problems

rocky lotusBOT
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డ్ర్యాగ్లొక్స్

mild kernel
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but there arent that many kinds of problems

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at least, you can count them

mild kernel
barren imp
robust wolf
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like i know it's correct, but 1/a just feels more right

mild kernel
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if you are just working with a big product

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its nice to have everything on the same line

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not a bunch of weird split up little pieces

barren imp
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Fair

mild kernel
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@barren imp got your question figured out?

barren imp
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Uhhhh

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No.

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What is this monstrosity

mild kernel
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its a famous pattern

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its called difference of square

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$a^2 - b^2 = (a+b)(a-b)$

rocky lotusBOT
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jan Niku

mild kernel
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but, you can just distribute here, youll get the same answer

barren imp
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Uhhhh

fleet burrow
mild kernel
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we get $\qty( \sqrt 7 )^2 - i \sqrt 7 + i \sqrt 7 - i^2$

rocky lotusBOT
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jan Niku

mild kernel
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the alliteration is so nice

barren imp
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I guess

mild kernel
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anyways, the pattern is easy

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just look at it and confirm it makes sense

mild kernel
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they always do

barren imp
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Ok so simpied is it /7 ² -i²

mild kernel
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yea

barren imp
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So 7- (-1)

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So....

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1?

mild kernel
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1?

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👀

barren imp
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Oh- wait

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6

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7-1

mild kernel
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👀

barren imp
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Is 6

mild kernel
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7 minus negative 1

barren imp
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But wair-

mild kernel
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what is minus a negative

barren imp
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It turns to positive

mild kernel
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yea

barren imp
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8

mild kernel
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so seven plus one

barren imp
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Sooo 8

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Or is it 7×1

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No no

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Definitely 8

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....

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i⁶¹....

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????

mild kernel
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you have a calculator?

barren imp
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Yee

mild kernel
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i mean genuine question

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it has i and stuff

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you might consider using it to check yourself

barren imp
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I only have a science one

mild kernel
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get comfortable using it with the parentheses and everything

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science one works, it should have i

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you got 8 which is the right answer

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see if you can get 8 using your calculator

barren imp
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Ok what do I do about i⁶¹

mild kernel
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is that the next problem?

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try this 8 one first

barren imp
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Yes

mild kernel
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then you'll know how to type i on your calculator

mild kernel
barren imp
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How do we get to i on this?

marble arch
barren imp
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Thank yoy

marble arch
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Okay so see

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The way we do it here, is by looking for multiples of 4

barren imp
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Ok

marble arch
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because after every 4th power, it just repeats

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i^5 = i

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i^2 = i^6

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i^3 = i^7

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i^4 = i^8

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then again

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i^9 = i

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and so on

barren imp
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Wait really?

marble arch
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because you see

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i^4 is just 1

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so i^5 is really 1*i

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and i^6 is just 1*i^2

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So look for multiples of 4 in power

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like i^100 is just i^(4*25)

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or 1^25

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or just 1

mild kernel
marble arch
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you get this?

mild kernel
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you should get a ti 36x pro catthink

barren imp
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I see so then...

marble arch
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okay so your first step is to look for the multiple of 4 before your power

barren imp
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For 61 it would be...15 i?

marble arch
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In 61, what is the multiple of 4 just before it?

marble arch
barren imp
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60 is divisable by 4

marble arch
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Nice!

barren imp
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But 61 is not

marble arch
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Okay so can we write i^61 as i*i^60?

barren imp
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So what happens to the 60? Does it not turn to 15i

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+i

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Or does it completely cancle in the first place

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Leaving just- i

marble arch
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No no, it won't be like that

barren imp
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Oh

marble arch
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You'll see

marble arch
barren imp
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Its i×i?

marble arch
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okay wait see

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So i^60 is just 1

barren imp
marble arch
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Now remember, values of i repeat after every fourth power

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So i^60 is just i^4, or 1

barren imp
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Sooo... 1+i?

marble arch
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okay no see

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i^61 yes

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i*i^60

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(i^60 = 1)

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i*1

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i

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You get it?

barren imp
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So it is just i

marble arch
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Yes, do you get the process?

barren imp
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I get it so i⁶⁰ =1

marble arch
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Yes

barren imp
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Which crosses it out leaving the remaining i?

marble arch
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Exactly

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So just look for the multiple of 4 just before the power of i

barren imp
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Ok so then i⁴⁷ makes... (1) and i⁷:?

marble arch
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Well tried, you see you gotta look for the multiple JUST before your power, so it'd be 44, and not 40

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you get it?

barren imp
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Ah

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So that leaves... i³?

marble arch
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Exactly

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And we know that i^3 is just -i

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Okay so tell me, what would be the value of i^155?

vale dockBOT
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@barren imp Has your question been resolved?

barren imp
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Oh sorry

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Ok so 154...

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Sooo 152

barren imp
marble arch
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Well it'd be i^3, did you mean -i?

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barren imp
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.reopen

vale dockBOT
barren imp
marble arch
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Ahhh well I asked i^155, not 154

barren imp
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Oh

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So then... yeah I guess -i

marble arch
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That's correct!

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You're getting it

vale dockBOT
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@barren imp Has your question been resolved?

barren imp
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Sorry I lost wifi

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This isnt on my stuff but What do we do if just its something like i‐⁵⁷

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Imagine thats a -56

marble arch
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i^(-57) right?

barren imp
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Yes

marble arch
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okay, just make it 1/i^(57) and do it normally

barren imp
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I see so its...1/i?

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marble arch
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Yes

barren imp
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.reopen

vale dockBOT
barren imp
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Ok

honest stone
barren imp
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Wait-

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Really?

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How does THAT end up negative i

honest stone
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Prolly cuz -𝑖 × 𝑖 = 1

barren imp
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But-

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A negative and a positive

robust wolf
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1 = i⁴

honest stone
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$-i \times i = -i^2=-(-1)=1$

rocky lotusBOT
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𝙸𝚗𝚏𝚒𝚗𝚒𝚞𝚖³

barren imp
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Oh

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Ok that makes sense

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So then

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i⁴⁷=-i

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Right?