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integrated 1/x to get ln(|x|), inside of the integral I multiplied numerator and denominator with 1 + log(x) of the second summand to get the numerator
$\frac 1x = \frac{1 + x\log(x)}{x + x^2 \log(x)}$ and now [\frac{1 - x}{x + x^2 \log(x)} - \frac 1x] can be simplified to [\frac{1 + \log(x)}{1 + x \log(x)}]
after the subtraction thing in the integral in observation
it comes out to be
$\int\frac{1}{1+xlog(x)} dx $
In the answer key the last term of the answer is negative
Wait a sec, maybe there is a sign error somewhere
it will be for sure
as it comes out to be -x
Yes, actually that last integral should be - int 1 + log(x) / 1 + x log(x)
[\frac{1 - x}{x + x^2 \log(x)} - \frac 1x = \frac{1 - x}{x + x^2 \log(x)} - \frac{1 + x \log(x)}{x + x^2 \log(x)} = \frac{1 - x - 1 - x \log(x)}{x + x^2 \log(x)}] [= \frac{- x - x \log(x)}{x + x^2 \log(x)} = - \frac{1 + \log(x)}{1 + x \log(x)}]
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\begin{align*}
\int \frac{1+x^2\log(x)}{x+x^2\log(x)}\dd x &=\int \frac{1-x+x+x^2\log(x)}{x+x^2\log(x)} \dd x\
&=\int 1 \dd x + \int \frac{1-x}{x+x^2\log(x)}\dd x\
&=x + C +\int \left(\frac{1-x}{x+x^2\log(x)}-\frac1x\right)\dd x+\int \frac1x \dd x\
&=x + C' + \ln(|x|) + \int -\frac{1+\log(x)}{1+x\log(x)}\dd x\
&=x + \ln(|x|) - \log(1+x\log(x)) + C''
\end{align*}
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There

nice solution there
np
These questions are so hard bro idek if I'm making progress
Just do more of them
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Anyone can help with this problem: You submerge the iron sphere with diameter d and density 8000 kg/m3 into mercury with density 13500. How much of d is submerged?
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I integrated the submerged part and got a cubic but i have no idea how to continue
Just... Show the work
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I will have to write everything again if I want to show it to you because it’s quite messy. Basically I equated the force of sphere and the force with which the mercury pushes the sphere up and the I integrated the submerged part and i got a cubic that I can’t solve
Archimedes' principle?
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Yes i think i used that
So the displaced volume, in mercury, weighs as much as the object
Exactly
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"Give an example of a linear transformation which is left invertible but not right invertible"
Could I get a hint 🥺
Oh I think I got it
Maybe T: R3 to R2 with (xyz) goes to (xy)
So what would a left inverse of T be?
I'll be honest I think you mixed up left and right invertible
Because you now need to find $S:\bR^2\to \bR^3$ such that $S\circ T = Id_{\bR^3}$
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So think about your example and if it works
Why not = idR2?
Oh I see
Forgot which direction it goes
Ty
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I can’t wrap my head around why we are plugging 6 into y for the inverse function as the last step. I get how to implicitly differentiate but not this f inverse prime 6
do you know the formula for the derivative of the inverse?
if $f$ and $g$ are inverses then $g'(x) = \frac{1}{f'(g(x))}$
knief
yes I understand that
ok so whats the issue
its the finding f inverse prime of 6
like what is that even asking
is it an x value
is it a y value?
plug in x = 6 here
its just 1/f'(f^-1(6)) and f^-1(6) is the solution to f(x) = 6
but thats not the answer
and thats also not the question
its not asking f(x) = 6
bro what
what isnt the answer?
💀
1/5
i never said it was
,w solve x^3 + 2x + 3 = 6
yea its 1/(3 + 2) = 1/5
im very confused
f^{-1}(6) = 1
i cant wrap my head around why we plug in 6 to the original function for x
^
or y for the inverse
yes
$g'(6) = \frac{1}{f'(g(6))}$
knief
yes sir
this is the part that trips me up
yes i understand that part
i understand this
so we can say g(6) is equal to f(x) = 6 right?
not equal to an equation, equal to the real solution of the equation
🤔
wdym?
think back to algebra when youd solve equations like f(x) = 0
to find the zeros of a function
mhm
you found the values of x such that the equation was true
yeah
yeah i get that
mhm
ok then as per the formula that is the value we plug into f'
we found g(6) = 1
so we plug 1 into f'
then the inverse is the reciprocal of that
inverses derivative
last thing, when inversing a function like I need to do in this question. When doing implicit differentiation, should I change x's to y's and vice versa?
because I was taught when inversing to switch x and y then isolate for the new y
but in this case there is no isolating because we are doing it through implicit differentiation
i mean you can just solve for x but generally in calculus you wont be asked to find the inverse function
oftentimes that algebraic technique wont work
they just ask you for the derivative at a point
mhm
wait but if f(x) =x^3 + 2x + 3, what is g(x)?
its still in respect of x
but then the variables cant switch
,w plot x^3 + 2x + 3
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its a nightmare expresssion
like I want to do this the way my prof is teaching it
yeah but thats why im confused
like how would I do this the way hes teaching it
he showed how he did it on the right side of the paper
like i did all the work but I jsut have no clue why we are plugging in 6 as the independant variable
perhaps you're not understanding the formula
yeah probably not
they asked you to find the derivative of the inverse at x = 6
but he never gave us the formula
thank you
oh my god
im mad at myself
...
knief i got bad news
i was lookng at this trying to wrap my head around it for like an hour on the train
and didnt notice the theorem at the bottom of the page
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So when doing Q = A/B where Q is a quotient group, then B must be a normal subgroup of A?
yes, quotient groups are only defined for normal subgroups
if B is not normal, the group operation is not well-defined
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Hmm makes sens e
Thanks
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What does the sum $\sum\limits_{k\geq1}(-1)^k\frac{(2\pi l)^{2k}}{(2k)!}, l\in \mathbb{Z}$ converge to?
Alrik
Do you know the Taylor series of cos(x)?
That makes a lot of sense
I’m assuming you’re trying to find a formula for an integer value of 𝑙?
Wolfram has a surprisingly simple answer but I haven’t a clue on how it would be dervied… 
of the function exp(z)-1
yeah
the answer should be zero
and this should be the cosine function
for any l in Z
scratch this I forgot about the alternation
i do know about the taylor series of cos(x)
here are 10 points marked on a circle, and chords are drawn form each pair of points if no three chords concur at a point strictly inside a circle find the number of intersections strictly inside the circle (which are meeting are meeting point of two chords)
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(the answer is there directly after plugging in x = 2pi l and subtracting off the k = 0 term)
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hi
send your question please
H!
my question is the The Riemann Hypothesis
please don't troll
im not
sure man
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Answer is 5
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part b
Depends on how much precision you want tbh, and there are a few ways, have you been taught any?
i know
that u use the expansion
and subsitute x=1/100 into it
but idk abt the find approximation for root 5
Ill take it you already know the method used for a)
You should be able to factorize out a (1-x)^1/2 instead of sqrt5
wdym
Ill take it you did the first a) by first factorizing out into a 1/2 . (1-20x)^1/2
Here you can do something similar
$\sqrt{5}=\sqrt{4+1}=\sqrt{4(1+\frac{1}{4})}=2\sqrt{1+\frac{1}{4}}$
∫ᴄ 𝐅·𝑑𝑟 = ∬ʀ ∇⨯𝐅 𝑑𝐴
ohhhhhh
From there you should be able to work out a good approximation
so we make the thing in the surds
equal to one another
and find x
sub back into approx?
Yeah. Theres a lot of good ways to find aproximations anyways
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You shouldn’t find x here, just put 1/100 into x
You should have an approximation of (1/4-5x)^(1/2), if you put x=1/100 into that you get an approximation for 1/sqrt(5)
Then do 1/ it to get approximation for sqrt(5)
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I'm unsure if the part i solved is correct. If i remember correctly, integral of graph like this shouldn't give negative value. What part i did wrong?
You can't integrate f(x) directly because you don't even know what it is
Right now you're treating it as f(x) = x
The solution lies in a relationship between the two integrals
Try drawing the relevant areas in the plane
One sec i think i found the connection
Is it like this
Because of it being an x function rather than y function
2 box right?
Yeah
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any idea...how do i write this in a structured or short way (in understandable manner)..
ratio of girls to boys is 3:4 so there are 3n girls and 4n boys
boys' avg height is our goal so call it x
the entire group's avg height is x-3
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Can anyone help
do you know how you rationalize a fraction like this?
||you multiply both denominator and numerator by the conjugate of the denominator||
Ya I know that part I wanna check my answers if I’m correct tbo
Cuz I’m not sure if I’m missing some steps
show your work then
$(-\sqrt{7})(\sqrt{7}) \neq 7$
Kaladin.
then what
-7...?
Ahhh my bad I didint see that part
also $6(3+\sqrt{7}) \neq 18-6\sqrt{7}$
Kaladin.
Nothing wrong with the second one.
Alr I js have to make sure I look at the question again basically
Thank u guys
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This is one of the easier questions but have a hard time getting started, i kinda know how to factorise but i dont know how to start.
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i kinda know how to factorise
Well, can you factorize 6x^2 + 92x + 352 ?
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For a function ( f(x, y) ) developed around ( (2,2) ), the following holds:
$$
p_4(h, k) - p_3(h, k) = \frac{4h^4 - 32h^3k + 102h^2k^2 - 140hk^3 + 61k^4}{3}
$$
and
$$
f(3,3) - p_4(1,1) = \frac{17}{3} + 0.03002\ldots
$$
Which function is ( f(x, y) )?
Skiii
is this an MCQ?
No
Been doing research online, came to conclusion theres more than 1 function have these requirments. But my teacher keep saying against lol
What exactly is p_n
Are they related to f in any way or are they just arbitrary functions
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Pn(h,k) denotes the n-th degree taylor polynomial of f(x,y)
Swedish fyi ^
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can you help me guys to do it without using integrals to find the expression of f(x)
d/dx both sides of f(x) = x
nvm this doesn’t work
The derivative is negative everywhere on R+, so as x increases f(x) decreases
In fact it is strictly decreasing
Oh to find the expression of f, no you just have to integrate it
the only way to find what f(x) is is by integrating
but the question only needs you to prove that f(x) = x has 1 solution, you don’t need to find it (in this case you likely can’t)
use that f(x) - x is strictly decreasing to prove there can only be up to 1 solution
Yea okay thats what I was going to sayc
And also note the existence is guaranteed by IVT
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the test this is on is already finished and i have no more attemps this is soley for personal understanding
but i am confused on how to work out the second part where it asks
as in how the tension in EB affects the tension in the sperate ish system that BC is in
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just for fun;
how can i graph sin/cos of x that doesn't cross the x-axis?
what about sin/cos of x multiplied by x? log of x?
,w graph sin x + 2
,w graph sin x - 2
found one such case:
$f(x)\cdot\cos(x)+f(x)$
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hello, do you have a math question to ask?
ok first off, http://nohello.net/ and you should post the question as your first message usually.
now that that's out of the way
Alr mb
write down expressions for the perimeter and area of this shape in terms of x and y.
and you said you were clueless.
...where is the third y coming from in the perimeter tho
shouldn't it be 32x + 2y = 80?
Oops
Careless mistake
Maybe that's why I didn't get my answer this whole time..
Wait gimme a while
to try redoing it
your area equation looks correct to me, for the record
Ok I thought I figured it out but nvm
Ignore the oil stain I was eating chicken
I tried using sum of roots and product of roots to see if it can help me in some way but ehhhhhh
Ann
also (80-32x)/2 could have and should have been simplified
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Well, I’ve got this piece of crap as a problem. I’m applying the interpolation error theorem to solve it. I’ve determined that the number of nodes is 2, therefore 𝑛=1. By differentiating the expression twice, I end up with cos((pi * x) / 2) * pi * x. Knowing that the maximum value a cosine can take is 1 and that the maximum value of 𝑥 in the interval is 3, I approximated the expression to 3𝜋, taking this as the maximum value of the express.
For 𝑊𝑛(𝑥), I simply used the approximate expression ∣𝑏−𝑎∣^𝑛+1 resulting in 3^2. When substituting into the theorem’s expression, I realized I don’t know how to include the value of ℎ in the equation. I considered reformulating the 𝑊𝑛(𝑥) term to calculate the nodes according to the value of ℎ, but I’m completely lost.
Any help is appreciated 🙂
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you cant really use this to solve the problem, but the largest step length that ensures error of less than 10^-3 is h = 3/100 (i.e. from 100 subintervals)
this is from testing every value of f(x) so this isnt practical, thats just there if youre curious
if youre using this formula, the largest step length that ensures this is less than 10^-3 is h = 3/101 (i.e. from 101 subintervals)
this is from testing every value of f''(x) to find its max so its also not practical (you cannot solve for the max)
to get their solution, you have to use that, for 0 < x < 3,
as you can imagine this is a pretty bad bound on the max, you know this should be < 3, but using 12 here will get you the same answer that they have
lmk if you dont understand what Im doing here, I dont think what I did here is very standard
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for b do you just add all three varieence for do you subtract 1.5^2 and add 1.8^2 andfor mean do you just subtract and add the means?
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Hi guys
Question first please
No hi is crazy
Lol. I have it as a text replacement on my laptop
I have a request no question
Can anyone dm me if you are student in college currently
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to participate at an activity, each student needs to pay their part of the cost of transport by bus, which is of 300$, aswell as the entry at the insectarium, of 8$. Whats the equation of the amount that the students have to spend in fuction of the amount of students that participate at the activity
opal
Well let's say there are x students
yeah
How much is each student paying for the bus
300
Yup
oh tysm
but it asks me aswell the equations of the asymptotes for the curve of the function defined by this equation
Well what do you think the asymptotes will be
the h,k
asymptote isn't the coordinate at the half between both curves?
Either the function approaches infinity at a point or the function approaches a value at infinity
I'm not aware of this notion of asymptote
ill show imahge
wait
i might be wrong then
i think the coordinate at the half is just (h,k)
thats centre for a hyperbola
yeah h,k right
umm depends on the equation
but ye you can give it any variable value
whats h and k here ??
didnt find yet
in such cases for the horizontal one just check the funtions convergence at infinity
and for the vertical one check when the denominator becomes 0
or the function becomes not defined
or aproaches any of the infinities whatever you wanna call it
the equation is f(x) = 300/x + 8 so i gotta replace x with 0
alright
we're making the denominator of the expression zero
300/0 says math error
or the expression not defined
it's not defined at x=0 hence x=0 is an asymptote
oh
i dont understand so a asymptote can have a equation?
ah wait nvm i got it
thanks for ur help
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someone could speak a read in spanish? i dont know how do a problem :c
Post it and someone will probably come
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I need someone good with word problems
A company finds it can produce 25 heaters for $5950 , while producing 35 heaters cost $8250. Express the cost y as a linear function and the number of heaters as x. Determine the cost to produce 40 heaters.
How do we break this down?
I thought it was midpoint but I just kept getting stuck
This question has caught me off guard in my stuff twice now
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It's not midpoint. Hint: try finding the slope
Would the slope be the cost?
Not necessarily, it would be the cost of each heater
y is a linear function, so y takes on the form y = mx + c, where m and c are constants to be determined. Substitute in x = 25, y = 5950 and x = 35, y = 8250. You should get a system of equations which is solvable.
(at least i think that's the solution)
Don't need to do system of equations though
So then the equation would be 5950=mx + 25?
How many ways are there to solve this
Not quite
Idk and idrk why or how you would use system of equations but finding the slope is the first move
So (25+35)/(5950+8250)
No that's not the slope formula
Yes
Wait
It's not y/x but you're close
The slope formula is $(y_{2} - y_{1})/(x_{2} - x_{1})$
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So its the opposite of midpoint but closer to distance
No I don't think it's either. The slope just tells how much the function is increasing
It's just change in y divided by change in x
@barren imp i think you have some very big conceptual misunderstandings and you should probably revise your notes
Slope has always been confusing for me...
Anyway so ok if I did the math right i got 2300/10
Slope essentially is just a number that says how much a function is changing every time you change x
Yes
The slope is 230 in this case
Yes
And is the price of each heater
So then 230...
Now you need to find the y-intercept
Where'd you get 40 from?
Here
No the 40 would be something to plug into x
You have some equation $5950 = 230(25) + b$ solve for b
Wait
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So where does the 40 come into play because I need to figure out the price of 4 heaters
Basically, you're given the price of 25 heaters and 35 heaters. You need to find the price of 40 heaters. Once you solve for b, you'll need to plug 40 into x to get y where y is the price of the heaters $y = 230x + b$
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Ah so y=230(40) + b?
Once you solve for b, and plug in x = 40, you'll get y at x = 40
Which is the price of 40 heaters
Very close, but you're missing the +b
.
9200 + b
yes, but you should solve for b first
So b = -9200?
No
Im getting a little confused here:')
$5950 = 230(25) + b$ do some algebraic manipulation to get b
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What exactly is confusing here?
Oh we dont put the 40
My life (pun drum)
😭
Are you confused with perhaps why we are doing these steps?
Ok so b is 200
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Ok
So then thats how to write the y
Im looking at some old notes and... there's point set formula?...
*slope
And solving for x... is -200/230?...
Yeah, just need to plug in the x value
No you don't need to solve for x
Plug in 40 for x
Oh!
And then you'll get a certain y value
Yeah but we don't need the point-slope formukla
That's for other things
Ok so ima check- if we plug in y= 230(25)+200
It makes 5950
Y=230(35) +200
It is also 8250
Ok so then we plug in y=230(40)+200
Sure in a second
No problem I need to take 5 anyway
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sorry, youre just working on this root problem?
$\frac{ \sqrt{-35} \sqrt{ -5} }{ \sqrt 7 }$
jan Niku
@barren imp
hello
what have you tried?
maybe you have a list of properties of roots that you can use?
if not we can find one
maybe you take an intermediate step there
$\frac{ \sqrt 7 \sqrt{-5} \sqrt{-5} }{ \sqrt 7 }$
jan Niku
But now I have the (sqr)/-5 sitting next to it
this is after splitting the -35, but without taking out the i
do you notice anything?
We can get rid of the 7s
But what do we do with the 5s?
jan Niku
can you think of another way to write this?
how do we usually write a*a?
Well I dont know with the sqr roots
but you know its a^2 yea?
Yeah
$a \cdot a = a^2$
jan Niku
They are both negative but would they make 25?
so then $\sqrt{-5} \sqrt{-5} = \qty( \sqrt{-5} )^2$
jan Niku
Ohhh
what happens?
So not 25
the root and the square do, yea

Your questions and confusion are valid. You really shouldn't ever have square root of a negative number because you get confused on how to distribute it.
well theyre doing complex numbers
We still use the imaginary unit i
Well earlier I thought I put the i out
jan Niku
looks like $i^2 \qty( \sqrt 5)^2$
But (as far as i can recall), there should never be square roots of negative numbers
jan Niku
So i turns to (-1)
in the front, yea
But the 5...
I'm not saying what you are doing here is wrong, it's just very unfortunate that it is presented to you this way
Is it (-1)5?
So then -5?
yup
Ok thank you
yea because
its hard to resist the temptation to combine them
int $\sqrt{ (-5)^2 }$
jan Niku
which seems like the most tempting thing to do
i think this is just a problem of 2 answers
(I seemed to have made an error somewhere but I do not know where
I see
,calc 4*8
Result:
32
idk my table
66 seems low
I foiled it
we should get the 4*8 as the first contribution to the real part
and then 9*6
yea?
Yes
yeah this is it
sure
yes this is it
sorry i didnt come earlier, i was doing something and got carried away with it
yes but there's one more step
yeah
yeah
Yep exactly
It's already simplified
Oh
Cuz you can't really reduce i
Wait what?
,calc 48 + 96
Result:
86
,calc -46+98
Result:
48

What did I do....
9 times 8 is bigger than 4 times 6
Oh wait-
Its +48i
it is, yea
Not -48i
these problems are 100% just tricks to try to get you to mess up a sign
Yayyy
ong
messing up signs is like 80% of all math mistakes
True
$\frac{1}{a+b} = \frac 1a + \frac 1b$
jan Niku
the usual 
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yeah fractions are tedious to write sometimes ngl
once you realize fractions are just exponents it gets better
well, that is i guess if you are good with exponent problems
I will take all of it over word problems though
fair, those are just like uhh
aint nobody writing $a^{-1}$ instead of $\frac{1}{a}$
i mean you just have to see all the problems
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they absolutely do 
This is cursed
that's really weird then if so
like i know it's correct, but 1/a just feels more right
if you are just working with a big product
its nice to have everything on the same line
not a bunch of weird split up little pieces
Fair
@barren imp got your question figured out?
jan Niku
but, you can just distribute here, youll get the same answer
Uhhhh
sum? 
we get $\qty( \sqrt 7 )^2 - i \sqrt 7 + i \sqrt 7 - i^2$
jan Niku
sum of difference of squares 
the alliteration is so nice
I guess
Ok so simpied is it /7 ² -i²
yea
👀
Is 6
7 minus negative 1
But wair-
what is minus a negative
It turns to positive
yea
8
so seven plus one
you have a calculator?
Yee
i mean genuine question
it has i and stuff
you might consider using it to check yourself
I only have a science one
get comfortable using it with the parentheses and everything
science one works, it should have i
you got 8 which is the right answer
see if you can get 8 using your calculator
Ok what do I do about i⁶¹
then you'll know how to type i on your calculator
you can use it to check yourself on this
I can help you with this
Thank yoy
Ok
because after every 4th power, it just repeats
i^5 = i
i^2 = i^6
i^3 = i^7
i^4 = i^8
then again
i^9 = i
and so on
Wait really?
because you see
i^4 is just 1
so i^5 is really 1*i
and i^6 is just 1*i^2
So look for multiples of 4 in power
like i^100 is just i^(4*25)
or 1^25
or just 1
its not supported 
you get this?
you should get a ti 36x pro 
I see so then...
okay so your first step is to look for the multiple of 4 before your power
For 61 it would be...15 i?
In 61, what is the multiple of 4 just before it?
no no, for now just look for the number divisible by 4
60 is divisable by 4
Nice!
But 61 is not
Okay so can we write i^61 as i*i^60?
So what happens to the 60? Does it not turn to 15i
+i
Or does it completely cancle in the first place
Leaving just- i
No no, it won't be like that
Oh
You'll see
Okay tell me this
Its i×i?
Maybe so other time
Sooo... 1+i?
So it is just i
Yes, do you get the process?
I get it so i⁶⁰ =1
Yes
Which crosses it out leaving the remaining i?
Ok so then i⁴⁷ makes... (1) and i⁷:?
Well tried, you see you gotta look for the multiple JUST before your power, so it'd be 44, and not 40
you get it?
Exactly
And we know that i^3 is just -i
Okay so tell me, what would be the value of i^155?
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So that makes -1?
Well it'd be i^3, did you mean -i?
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Oh well- 154 > 152 +2
Ahhh well I asked i^155, not 154
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Sorry I lost wifi
This isnt on my stuff but What do we do if just its something like i‐⁵⁷
Imagine thats a -56
i^(-57) right?
Yes
okay, just make it 1/i^(57) and do it normally
I see so its...1/i?
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Ok
1/𝑖 = -𝑖 btw.
Prolly cuz -𝑖 × 𝑖 = 1
1 = i⁴
$-i \times i = -i^2=-(-1)=1$
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