#geometry-and-trigonometry

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pure cape
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So you can definitely susitute that into your equation

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So can you tell me the equation after subsituting?

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Dont solve yet

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Just subsitute

low scaffold
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Ok 1 sec

pure cape
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Yes

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Do you see something different from what you did above?

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From this

low scaffold
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Yea, I subbed into the powered x

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Instead of keeping the gradient the same and x separate

pure cape
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Yeah, you straightup just omitted the x

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Which gave you the wrong answer for c

low scaffold
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So c= e^4a -4ae^4a?

pure cape
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You did it again.....

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Wheres the a in the coefficient?

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e^(4a) = 4ae^(4a) - c

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How could that turn into - 3e^(4a)

low scaffold
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Ah yeah

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minus c?

pure cape
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What?

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Oh uh +c sorry

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Typo there

low scaffold
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ok, so I got a as 1/4 now

pure cape
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No, you're not finding a

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a here just represent a number

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On the graph

low scaffold
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I mean for part b

pure cape
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Ok lets do part a first

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We havent got our equation yet

dense marten
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hey can i get some help with CPCTC and triangles ? its a worksheet ive been having trouble on for awhile

pure cape
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try solving for c

low scaffold
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I got e^4a - 4ae^4a = c

pure cape
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Yep

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So whats our equation

low scaffold
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Ok so the equation is y= (4e^4a) x + (e^4a - 4ae^4a)

pure cape
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Yep

low scaffold
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Aye

pure cape
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Its pretty easy for part b now that yoy got the equation

low scaffold
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Yea, I used that to get 0=(1-4a)e^4a

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Making a=1/4

pure cape
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Wait what? Whats part b about

low scaffold
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It asks for a when the tangent passes through the origin

pure cape
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Oh

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Alright

low scaffold
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Am I right to sub x,y for 0,0 and solve for a?

pure cape
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Yep

low scaffold
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Ok cool

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Thanks for the help

astral bluff
placid bone
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can't help with tests

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  1. Requesting help during an exam is a bannable offense.
astral bluff
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Its hw

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Homework*

placid bone
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can you prove that's the case?

astral bluff
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Assignment

placid bone
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that doesn't prove anything lmao

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idk ask a mod

spring jolt
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YOOO

astral bluff
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Lol kk

placid bone
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not sure what to do if it's a dubious case

astral bluff
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Lmaooooo

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Bow wasgg

slate blade
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F bro

green tree
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can someone help me with this

west basin
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incenter is the point at the center

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@green tree still need help?

green tree
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@west basin yes

west basin
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basically just draw bisectors of S R and T

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and whereever they all meet is the incenter

green tree
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@west basin

west basin
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its not showing any picture

green tree
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hold up

west basin
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thats roughly it yeah

ashen brook
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Let sin A = − 8/17 with 270° ≤ A ≤ 360° and cos B = − 3/5 with 90° ≤ B ≤ 180° and find the following. sin(A+B)

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how would i answer this

glacial dawn
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Right triangle, unit circle, inverse trig functions

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I think

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Rough sketch

upper karma
slate blade
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Bruh didn't you ask this

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it's d remember

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$$period = \frac{2\pi}{b} $$

somber coyoteBOT
slate blade
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given that $$f(x) = a\sin{(bx-c)}+d $$

somber coyoteBOT
ashen brook
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tan 𝜃 − 2 cos 𝜃 tan 𝜃 = 0 for this problem i got 60,180,300 but it says it is still wrong even tho it checks out

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did i do something wrong

silent plank
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show work (also what interval did they ask you to solve for)

clever zodiac
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can anyone help me w my problem lol

ashen brook
silent plank
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you missed 0

ashen brook
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ahh ok that makes sense thank you man

upper karma
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Hey hey hey

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I need help urgent yelp

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I'm sitting in tye class right now

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And I need this to be solved pls help me

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Pls solve this

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Plssssss

ashen brook
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8 cis 3𝜋/4 how would i right this in standard form

versed river
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by definition, 8cis(3pi/4)=8(cos(3pi/4)+isin(3pi/4))

ashen brook
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ah so i had the part after the =

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should i also put the stuff before

versed river
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idk wym by that

ashen brook
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i put in that answer before but it says it was wrong

versed river
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you put 8(cos(3pi/4)+isin(3pi/4))?

ashen brook
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yeah

versed river
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well you've still got a step to do after that lol

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you have to find the exact values of cos(3pi/4) and sin(3pi/4)

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rather than just writing it in terms of sin and cos

ashen brook
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ohh ok that makes more sense thank you

jagged magnet
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ayo can yall help me on this

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i also need help on this

earnest echo
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Have you tried something?

obtuse tapir
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Angles on a straight line have a sum of 180

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But they must be adjacent

upper karma
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N isn't in the same plane right?

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Yeah, N isn't on the plane P

halcyon cipher
solemn axle
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Personally, and I might be doing this weird, I would use tangent to find the angle across from x and then use tangent again with the bigger side to find x

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Wait

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I’m stupid

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The easy way is to find the ratio from 16.8/6.4 and then multiply it by 2 to get x

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@halcyon cipher

halcyon cipher
solemn axle
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Ok

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X=6 and the perimeter is 38

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Sorry wrong problem 😂

chrome kelp
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Just use triangle congruence and it becomes ez

uncut rock
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How do you do this?

humble pulsar
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@uncut rock draw a triangle with angle B and sides sqrt6 amd 5

chrome kelp
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tan alfa = sin alfa / cos alfa

humble pulsar
uncut rock
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I don’t understand

humble pulsar
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what's tan a ratio of?

versed inlet
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Opposite/Adjacent in a triangle

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Or no

humble pulsar
versed inlet
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O_O was trying to help him he seems confused lol

uncut rock
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Thank you I am 😂

humble pulsar
arctic cobalt
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Anyone know how to solve the problem with x-2

ivory fractal
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Anyone know how to do this?

humble pulsar
placid bone
placid bone
ivory fractal
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...?

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a..?

placid bone
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what dos it mean if the line ab bisects cad

ivory fractal
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its the vertex

placid bone
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what does it mean about the angles cab and bad

ivory fractal
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i have no idea

placid bone
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hmm

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what do you think it means

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@ivory fractal

ivory fractal
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I think it means that Im an idiot and didnt pay attention in class

placid bone
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no

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divide (a line, angle, or shape) into two exactly equal parts.

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this is the google definition

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so what would that mean for 4x+1 and 33?

ivory fractal
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you want me to divide 33 and (4x+1)?

placid bone
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nope

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think again

ivory fractal
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okay..

placid bone
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cad is divided equally into two parts.

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what size are the angles of the two parts?

ivory fractal
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because its a midpoint

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they are both 33

placid bone
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yay

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there you go

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so

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4x+1=33

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solve for x

ivory fractal
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easy

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ty my guy

placid bone
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istgifyoucantdothis

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nurries

ivory fractal
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what

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you ok

placid bone
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huh

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what did you get for

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x

ivory fractal
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8.5

placid bone
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how...

ivory fractal
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lmao im stupid nvm

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i added 1 not sub

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its 8

ivory fractal
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yay

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ty my guy

pastel gulch
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Quick brain check, if you have supplementary angles, if one is larger than the other, the larger one must be obtuse right?

late breach
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where are these coming from

pastel gulch
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Alright thanks. Writing a somewhat long proof based on that lemma, and wanted to just make sure I wasn't messing up a really basic thing lol

upper karma
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this is what I did but it's wrong, can anyone guide me in the right direction?

night basin
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how do u find vector with same direction but dif magnitude

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like

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direction of [5 12] (magnitude 13) but magnitude 26 ???

humble pulsar
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@night basin [5c,12c], find c such that |[5c,12c]| = 26

placid bone
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find unit vector then multiply by 26

main lintel
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@upper karma seems to me that you have to find the closest point on the ladder to the base of the wall

upper karma
west basin
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whats the sum of angles in a triangle

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?

upper karma
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90

west basin
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thats not true

upper karma
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there a square

west basin
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the square denotes its a 90 degree angle

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yes

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but the sum of all the angles within the triangle is 180

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so add all three angles set it equal to 180 and solve

upper karma
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ok

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i got x = 59

west basin
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thats wrong

fresh topaz
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i did 2x -2 + x + 5 = 180

silent plank
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the 90° right angle is an angle within that right angled triangle

west basin
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yes you forgot to include the 90

fresh topaz
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in where?

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180 + 90?

west basin
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the square you were speaking of is 90 degrees

silent plank
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there are 3 angles within a triangle.
2 of them are 2x-2 and x+5
the 3rd is the 90° right angle denoted by that "square"
the sum of these 3 angles will be 180°

fresh topaz
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ooo

jaunty marsh
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Use vertical angles and then sum of angles in a triangle

fresh topaz
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still confuse

jaunty marsh
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Can you find angle BAC?

fresh topaz
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180?

jaunty marsh
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The measure of angle BAC, using vertical angles

fresh topaz
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uhh

jaunty marsh
fresh topaz
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no but do i have to do 13x + 6 + 70 = 8 + 3x

jaunty marsh
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No, measure of angle BAC=13x+6 and measure of angle BCA is 70
That’s why I highlighted them, to show that they’re equal

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So, using sum of angles in a triangle, 13x+6+70+8+3x=180

fresh topaz
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ooo

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ok i get it now thanks

jaunty marsh
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👍

strange stag
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Hello is there anyone that can help me?

dark sparrow
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maybe

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maybe not

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you should post your question

strange stag
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Yeah, I was typing it ;-;

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I need help with this, I tried doing it the same way my teacher had shown by drawing the triangle and putting 96° but then I just got so confused and lost

dark sparrow
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longer sides lie opposite to larger angles.

strange stag
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o

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Im so dumb- thank you

nocturne thicket
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Why is #18 "Not possible"?

silent plank
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because there isn't enough info

nocturne thicket
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@silent plank 2 sides + Angle = SAS ?

silent plank
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not quite

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note the position of the A in SAS, the angle needs to be between the 2 sides

nocturne thicket
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Between... The two sides?

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I'm confused

silent plank
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otherwise you just have ASS which as the acronym implies gets you nothing

nocturne thicket
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lmao

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but what does "between the 2 sides" mean?

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Which two sides am I looking at?

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ohhh

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side 1 and side 2

silent plank
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the corresponding congruent sides

nocturne thicket
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it needs to be between the two sides with markings

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ahhh i seee

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tysm <3

buoyant oracle
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anyone here?

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to help

cosmic pebbleBOT
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Rule 1

The help channels are solely for help with math, so feel free to post your question. Asking whether you can ask a question or if anyone knows about some specific topic is unnecessary, so please try to avoid questions of that nature.

upper karma
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Don't ask to ask, just post it.

radiant halo
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can i get help with this please

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ive done tan x = sinx/cosx

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then tanx = sinx/sin(x+30)

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and i used the trig identity

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but i dont know where to go from there

dark sparrow
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do you know the angle sum identity for sin

radiant halo
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one sec

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this is what ive done so far

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then i made 2sinx/(root3sinx + cosx)

dark sparrow
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i think you mightve gone down a difficult route

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why not start with sin(x+30°) = cos(x) and expand here

radiant halo
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oh ok

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lol

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it was that easy

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ffs

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thanks @dark sparrow

dark jacinth
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A rectangular box is 2 by 3 by h, and two of its internal diagonals are perpendicular.
Find possible values for h.

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Any ideas for this?

granite lintel
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i dont understand which line to connect etc

humble pulsar
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@granite lintel no info on what the question is

solemn axle
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I don’t understand how to do this question. I don’t remember how to get a+bi from this

upper karma
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You could start by multiplying by the conjugate num and den

main lintel
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You need to get rid of the i in the denominator

obtuse tapir
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(2+3i)(9+7i)
——————
9^2-(7i)^2

solemn axle
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I got -3/130 + 41/130i

granite lintel
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im so confused what i need to do

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i drew a triangle just connecting those 3 dots 😂

main lintel
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@granite lintel Oh, I see. That is likey not enough

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A polyhedral is not its internals (the volume), but only the sides

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The three dots define a plane (always 3 dots define one plane).

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This plane cuts the polyhedral somehow

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You need to visualize where will each side be cut.

granite lintel
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huh i cant do that

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i never understood geomtry

main lintel
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If you connect the dots you will get some visualisation of that plane.

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But that will not be enough

granite lintel
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btw im using geogebra website where i draw everything sooo myb u could help me out

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i sent her 6 tasks and all of them were incorrect

upper karma
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Hello, i am really bad at geometry proving and i seek tips to improve my skills

main lintel
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Practice. @upper karma

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For example this problem of Shades, try to solve it.
@granite lintel When you connect the bottom two points you will get a line. This line is belonging to the cutting plane, right?

granite lintel
main lintel
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Yes, this line is in the cutting plane

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Do you realize that?

granite lintel
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ye ig so

main lintel
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This line is also passing directly through the side of the polyhedron also, right?

granite lintel
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yas

main lintel
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So the cutting plane is cutting polyhedron exactly on that line

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It cuts this segment IJ

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It cuts the side CDEH of the polyhedron exactly on this IJ segment

granite lintel
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so? i think i understand cutting part but i dont see the visual in my brain of it where i need to place next line if i have given 3 dots and i gotta add extra dots

main lintel
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OK, we did just the first step, but you need to understand it.

granite lintel
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mkay

main lintel
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The line cuts the polyhedron across several of its sides.

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Side CDEH is cut, and is cut on the segment IJ

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Now if you connect I and the remaining third dot what you get?

granite lintel
main lintel
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OK, does this pass line pass through the ployhedron's side?

granite lintel
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🤔 yes

coarse crag
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Is there a proof that all triangles can be decomposed into 30-60-90 triangles if we assume an infinite level of subdivision is possible?

main lintel
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@granite lintel I mean, it passes though side CDEH but only at one point, I

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which is also a point on the CDBA side

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And it passes through side ABFG at point G, which is also a point on the HEFG side and CHGA side.

granite lintel
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mkay 🤔

main lintel
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Now I dont know how to proceed further 😄

granite lintel
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😂

main lintel
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But at least we have something 😄

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OK, let's thing at this point

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Can you connect the remaining line also

granite lintel
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i cant literally think if i dont get any visual in my brain but i assume

main lintel
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GJ

granite lintel
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it will make triangle

main lintel
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SHow it please

granite lintel
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and its done but it feels too easy

main lintel
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I guess what you can do is to take a midpoint of GI

granite lintel
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wdym

main lintel
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And then make a line J and this midpoint

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Midpoint of IG is at the half of the height of the cube (is this a cube?), half of the depth of the qube.

granite lintel
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idk

main lintel
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@granite lintel What is this task, should you solve that in geogebra?

granite lintel
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no i just need to draw those planes lines

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either on paper or geogebra

main lintel
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Are these tasks given as geogrebra tasks?

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But how can you copy on your paper if you dont know if that is a cube

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and if I is the midpoint of CD?

granite lintel
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^Construct a polyhedral section plane idk if its correctly translaated

main lintel
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OK, I think it is assumed that that is a cube

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and that I and J are midpoints of their edges

granite lintel
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i guess so

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like idk tbh what she wants neither i have been teached about it

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neither i have done this before

main lintel
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Can you define where the midpoint of IG is?

granite lintel
upper karma
granite lintel
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as long as u practice

upper karma
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@granite lintel what grade are you in

granite lintel
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11

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wbu

upper karma
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9$

main lintel
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The depth, the height and the offset from the right side.

granite lintel
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i dont think i can check on this app

main lintel
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Not in the app

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Logically

granite lintel
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no 😂

main lintel
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Well it is in the middle of I and G

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I is at the very bottom of the cube, G at the very top, so K is at half height

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Same as for depth

granite lintel
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i dont think i need heck depth/height for this

main lintel
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And as for the left-right offset, I is in the middle, G on the very left, so K is at 3/4 from right to left

granite lintel
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i think this isnt that hard xD

main lintel
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You need.

granite lintel
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checked 3 examples

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none of them requires that

main lintel
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This is not hard, this is trivial.

coarse crag
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You want to know where K is?

main lintel
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He wants to know where does the plane cut the cube

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I tell him to find K to solve that.

coarse crag
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Would there be a better channel for me to ask my previous question?

main lintel
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Perhaps. I don't understand the question.

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Perhaps competition-math

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When you say infinite, I guess you mean finite, but as many as needed?

coarse crag
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yes

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Given any triangle, can it be decomposed into a collection of smaller 30-60-90 right triangles

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My assumption, and logic says that it can

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but I need to prove this

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So im wondering if there are any given proofs of this

main lintel
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It seems as a hard problem, write it on competition-math channel

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I will post it on math olympiad channel

coarse crag
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Ok, thank you, i will give that a go

main lintel
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My intuition tells me nothing here 😄

coarse crag
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Well think of it like this, if its a triangle, it has area, and if we assume you can subdivied area, then there should be a point of subdivision where we can comprise the entire area out of nothing but 30-60-90 triangles

main lintel
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Any figure has an area

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Even a circle

coarse crag
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Well exactly

main lintel
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And I dont think a circle can be subdivided into triangles

coarse crag
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That is what im actually getting to, is that you can form a circle completely out of 30-60-90 triangles

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It can, thought we do not think of it like that

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Here is the crus of everything, resolution

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We assume a circle because the resolution in which we percieve the object is not enough to detect the finest of details

main lintel
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You cannot of any finite number of triangles

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Perhaps infinite number

coarse crag
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If you want to make a true circle, yes infinite

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but we never measure infinitely, we measure to a degree of accuracy

main lintel
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No, in mathematics we measure infinitely

coarse crag
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so this you only need enough equilaterals to satisfy the resulution of the measurement

main lintel
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To the finest perfect rpecision

coarse crag
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Well we think that is what we do, but it actually wrongh

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When you surpass measurable resolution, what you are doing is including "all possiblities"

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but the problem is all possibilities are not actually possible

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I know, it doesnt make a lot of sense

main lintel
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You cannot make these arbitrary statements, either you can prove it with the mathemaical rigour and precision, or you dont make such statements.

coarse crag
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and goes against convential math

main lintel
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This is not engineering.

coarse crag
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Well i can prove the sstatements, that is what im working on

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or rather, i will be able to prove the statements

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Think of this. In order to distinguish something, what is the single most important facet about that thing?

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Space, as without the space around it, it would be indistinguishable from nothing, or anything else, it would not be its own thing

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Soo while a circle may appear to be a complete "thing" from a given perspective, zooming in you will either find it is made of smaler line segments, or that the composition of the line mking the circle does not actually complete a circle, there will be gaps between the points

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and if it is disconnected arcs, if you zoom in on an arc you will again find it is either comprised of line segments, or again more disconnected arcs, meaninnig the previous arc you saw was not a single arc, but a composite of disconnected arcs

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etc etc to infinity

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You can see the pink shapes, they appear almost to be a circle at this zoom

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But they are this

upper karma
neon hamlet
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You could say SAS

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Since vertical angles

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And your 2 given sides

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Can Skew Lines be coplanner?

main lintel
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What are skew lines? @neon hamlet

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Is that a new question, or related to something prveious?

void wind
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or is it pi/180 that gives radians? catthonk

main lintel
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1 PI radians = 180°

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From that you get all the values.

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For example 2PI radians = 360°
Or 1/2 PI radians = 90°
Or 1/4 PI radians = 45°
...
Or 3/4 PI radians = 135°

upper karma
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Can anyone help me with the yellow parts i really dont understand this

void wind
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how about the values for the angles? for instance cos 1/2?

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how do you get that?

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im asuming that you have to memorize the exact values for 30, 45 and 60 degeres

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and just put minus if they are in the negative area, right?

main lintel
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Yes.

void wind
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Cool, thank you very much 😄 sadcat

main lintel
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45 is the same for sin and cos

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So you have 5 values in total to memorize 🙂

void wind
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yup, i learned that pattern thingy so i remeber some stuff from it

main lintel
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If you are not sure you can derive them at your hand.

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but not to confuse you

void wind
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I think i know which one you talking about, that one was very hard to understand

main lintel
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you better memorize

void wind
main lintel
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The derivations are related to observing the particular triangles

void wind
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i learned this the last time but i didnt understand cos and sin before but now i have a better understanding for it. I hope im good without it ^^

main lintel
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yes, if you memorize these 5 for sin 30, cos 30, sin/cos 45, sin 60 cos 60 you are good

void wind
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Great, thanks for the help ^^

umbral snow
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Mind you, if you are switching to radians, start to memorize in radians as well. It's a better and easier measure

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Converting all the time is pain

void wind
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Yea, my trick is i draw the unit circle before the test starts so i have it infront of me. I just wanted to be sure so i don't mess up the values. But you are right , im going to try to memorize them 🙂

main lintel
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I convert all the time 🙂

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Hate memorization

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Its error prone 🙂

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I derive as much as I can, and memorize the concepts

void wind
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Havent gotten to derivative yet, does it help?

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I just know that derivate for sin is cos

lyric light
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Does anybody know theorem 5-5

humble pulsar
main lintel
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When you derive some formula from some other notions, the common english word derive.

main lintel
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You see this small [obj]

void wind
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whoops, i think ill stick to this one instead :p

umbral snow
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@void wind
Though it's cool you want to know. The derivative of a function f is a new function f' that describes the slope of the first.

When you're using radians, the derivative of sin is cos, and the derivative of cos is -sin

late breach
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why for cos(2x) can I go for the other angles, but for csc(x) I can only keep the bottom two?

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technically the top one would be between 0<x<2pi anyway?

humble pulsar
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what do you mean exactly?

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csc(x) < 0 means sin(x) < 0, which means x is in quadrants 3 and 4

late breach
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the top one I only list 7pi/6 and 11pi/6 but not 5pi/6 and pi/6

humble pulsar
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what's csc(pi/6) ?

late breach
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oh

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right

humble pulsar
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yeah, sin is negative in quadrants 3 and 4, so you need angles in those quadrants

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cos(2x) < 0, so you need the quadrants where cosine is negative, namely 2 and 3

late breach
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well what about the 5pi/3

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that would just be 1/2

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that wouldn't be negative

humble pulsar
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cos(2 * 5pi/3) ?

late breach
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oh I forgot about the 2

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ok thanks that makes a lot more sense now

upper karma
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Can someone help me with my geometry

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I just need help

humble pulsar
upper karma
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You could have just said no

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Or not responded at all

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Can someone please help me with my geometry

placid bone
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it's not a no

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it's just an unnecessary question, because this server was literally made for help

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so the answer will always be yes

upper karma
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Well I just would like some help

placid bone
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there will always be someone that can help you

upper karma
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@placid bone can you help me

placid bone
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just make sure that channel's not being used

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depends

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i haven't done geometry in a few years

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so

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but i can try

late breach
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Shouldn't this be 1 - cos(5pi/4)?

upper karma
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How would I solve this

placid bone
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RS=1/2 NQ

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use triangle midpoint theorem

upper karma
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This makes no sense

west basin
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why doesnt it make sense

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the midpoint theorem tells you the NQ is double the length of RS

placid bone
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how does it not make sense lmao

west basin
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just solve 2RS = NQ

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substitute the given

placid bone
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23-x=1/2(2x+18)

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find x

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then sub x back into 2x+18

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then you're done

void wind
main lintel
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@upper karma why you angry

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just ask question here and wait for answer

upper karma
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Would you be okay if pm you

main lintel
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I'm not answering pms

upper karma
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Why

main lintel
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I dont want to be bothered.

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I answer on the channel when i have time

upper karma
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So you're able to speak to me on here

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But not on there

main lintel
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If i speak with you there, you might ping me later

upper karma
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I won't

main lintel
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for further explainations, or new quesitons

upper karma
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Which I won't

main lintel
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just write here.

placid bone
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just

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write the question here

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there's no judgement

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plus having to answer dms is really ceebs

upper karma
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Lofi

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Is it okay to ping you here

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@placid bone

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Nobody cared to help me bruh

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I've tried on my own

void wind
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You can literally ask and somebody will help you

upper karma
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What have I been doing

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Bruh

void wind
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Then comes the boring part, which is the waiting. If someone can help they will

pure cape
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That seems right

placid bone
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enter it

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maybe that works

upper karma
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can someone help me with this ive been stuck on it for the longest time

humble pulsar
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what's the slope of 2x+4y=-5 @upper karma

scenic gust
valid lagoon
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Help me

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Please

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<@&286206848099549185>

jaunty marsh
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Initial height is found by plugging in t=0

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Maximum time for a quadratic ax^2+bx+c is given by -b/2a
Plug that value back into the equation for t to get max height

valid lagoon
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Thanks a lot bro

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Love you no homo

jaunty marsh
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Np

valid lagoon
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<@&286206848099549185> what does this mean to rewrite

oak citrus
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we dont help on quizzes

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sorry

sick junco
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Can someone help me with these?

urban knoll
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Just add up all the numbers?

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Possably

sick junco
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Yea I just need help finding the area for all the shapes

urban knoll
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Well ummm

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It kinda tells u right there

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The numbers

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I could be wrong tho

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Do you have to create an equation?

sick junco
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No

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Actually

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The first one

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The area is 20 right?

urban knoll
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I’m not sure

sick junco
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Well that’s all I need to do

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Find the surface area and nothing else

urban knoll
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The bottom could be 28 or 32

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If the red line is 4 or 8

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That’s the determination

sick junco
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Oh

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Alright thanks!

scenic fulcrum
desert wharf
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tan^2x-5tanx+6
is this factorable? i can't tell
<@&286206848099549185>

jaunty marsh
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@desert wharf $(\tan(x)-2)(\tan(x)-3)$

somber coyoteBOT
upper karma
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@jaunty marsh what does that bot do

desert wharf
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thank you !

placid bone
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so for example, instead of saying x^2 for x squared

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you just

somber coyoteBOT
placid bone
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and it returns with how you would actually write it

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and like fractions too

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so instead of (x-1)/(x+1), you could

somber coyoteBOT
placid bone
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do that^

earnest fjord
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The point P lies on the line joining A(-2,3), and B(10,19) such that AP:PB = 1:3

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  1. show that the x-coordinate of P is 1 and find the y-coordinate of P
desert wharf
earnest fjord
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@desert wharf replace q and p with their definitions first

desert wharf
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what are their definitions :/

earnest fjord
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p = Sin A + cos A

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q = tan A + cot A

desert wharf
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ohhh in the equation?

earnest fjord
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try substituting that

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yes

desert wharf
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ok

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I DID IT
I LOVE YOU MATE

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@earnest fjord I HOPE YOU KNOW THAT YOU AR ENOW MY NEW FAVOURITE HUMAN

earnest fjord
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<3

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i’m still waiting for help tho

earnest fjord
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i got that one nvm

bronze forge
upper karma
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In the diagram below of triangle CDECDE, FF is a midpoint of \overline{CD}
CD
and GG is a midpoint of \overline{DE}
DE
. If FG=57-9xFG=57−9x, and CE=29-xCE=29−x, what is the measure of CECE?

main lintel
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@upper karma What is your attempt?

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@bronze forge You tried something?

bronze forge
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Im in a car rn let me attempt it on my tablet

upper karma
dark sparrow
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do you know what a line of symmetry is?

upper karma
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Yes

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A line that cuts the shape right in half

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But this shape is hurting my brain

steep temple
#

Encountered this problem earlier today and I feel like I was within grasp of solving it but I didn’t have a clue how to finish

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the points a, b, and b prime lie on the line with equation y = -2x + 11

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I tried substituting that into the circle equation and solving but that gave me an imaginary solution and I am looking for a real solution (obviously)

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the dotted circle and the circle equation on the paper is the approach I came up with to try and solve the problem. the problem itself only stated my previous message about the points being trilinear and the coordinates of point a

slim saddle
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I have setup an equation

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But none of the answers are being accepted

steep temple
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well what is the equation

main lintel
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@steep temple you should show the question, and a clear image. Like this it is impossible. Maybe sketch the image in paint or geogebra or something.

slim saddle
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3x-6/2x+7=x+3/2x

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simplifies to 4x^2-19x=3

obtuse tapir
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-3/4 and 7 are the solutions

slim saddle
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@obtuse tapir how?

obtuse tapir
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Also

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Your equation is wrong

slim saddle
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it is?

obtuse tapir
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Yes

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Do your calculations properly

slim saddle
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ok

steep temple
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@slim saddle how many triangles are in the picture?

slim saddle
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because i did dumb mistake

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arithmetic mistake haha

upper karma
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Can someone help me with this please? im very confused as to where to start

steep temple
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the reason you didnt get the answer was not because of an arithmetic mistake

slim saddle
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i did algebra wrong

obtuse tapir
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Yes

slim saddle
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haha thanks

steep temple
#

@main lintel

main lintel
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What's stated, and what is the question?

steep temple
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what is drawn by desmos, except the circle, is what is stated

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what i have drawn is my attempt at a solution

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$$
(x-3)^2 + (y-5)^2 = (6\sqrt5)^2

(x-3)^2 + (-2x+11-5)^2 = (6\sqrt5)^2

(x-3)^2 + (-2x+6)^2 = (6\sqrt5)^2

x^2-6x+9+4x^2-24x+36=180

5x^2-30x+225=0

x^2 - 6x + 45 = 0 \Rightarrow x_1 = 3-6i, x_2 = 3+6i
$$

somber coyoteBOT
steep temple
#

the points a(3,5), b, and b prime lie on the line with equation y = -2x + 11

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solve for the coordinates of b and b prime

upper karma
#

dlp mind helping me with some geometry

steep temple
#

what geometry

upper karma
#

Midsegments

steep temple
#

post q

upper karma
#

In the diagram below of triangle CDECDE, FF is a midpoint of \overline{CD}
CD
and GG is a midpoint of \overline{DE}
DE
. If FG=57-9xFG=57−9x, and CE=29-xCE=29−x, what is the measure of CECE?

steep temple
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post diagram

upper karma
#

there isn't a diagram

steep temple
#

there isnt a diagram?

upper karma
#

i was not specific

steep temple
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then this is algebra

upper karma
#

its a equation

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Than i guess its algebra

main lintel
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@steep temple You should state the actual question

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So given are three points with their coordinates? and asked is what?

upper karma
steep temple
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no

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i stated the "actual" question

upper karma
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this is whats shown

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dlp

steep temple
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you are given a and the line y = -2x+11

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oh and the distance from a to b and from a to b' is 6sqrt5

main lintel
#

So given is this line, a point A on it, with xA = 3. And 2 other points on the line B and B', which are 6sqrt(5) distant from A?

upper karma
#

can anybody help me out with this question please ive been stuck on it

steep temple
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a is (3,5)

obtuse tapir
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@upper karma 2FG=CE

main lintel
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@steep temple A is given uniquely by just its x coordinate, as it is on the line?

steep temple
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a is (3,5)

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where its x coordinate is 3 and its y coordinate is 5

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it is on the line y=-2x+11 yes

main lintel
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And B and B' are on the same line distant 6sqrt(5) from A?

steep temple
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yes

main lintel
#

And what is the question?????

steep temple
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the question is to find b and b prime's coordinates

main lintel
#

You correctly noted that they are on the circle. That is one way of solving it.

steep temple
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be that as it may i couldn't succeed

main lintel
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Where is the square on the second summand on the first line?

steep temple
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typo

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as u can see i expand it in line 4

main lintel
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If you move 180 to the left it is -180

steep temple
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so it is.

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thanks.

steep temple
main lintel
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It boils down to the similar path.
If you dont take the circle, but you write it according to pytagorean theorem.

steep temple
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so what i was doing?

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i couldnt figure out how to solve it that way

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can you show me?

main lintel
#

d = 6sqrt(5) 36*5 = xd^2 + yd^2

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xd is the distance from A to B in x direction, and yd is the distance from A to B in y direction.

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So xb= 3 + xd yb = 5 - yd

steep temple
#

ah i made a mistake there

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it should be $$ b_x + 3 and b_y + 5 $$ yes

main lintel
#

And you also have that B is on the line so yb = -2xb + 11

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You can inset xd and yd into first equation.

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And you have 2 equations with 2 unknowns "xb" and "yb".

steep temple
#

but i dont have xd and yd?

main lintel
limpid gust
jagged sapphire
deft blaze
#

soh cah toa

slim saddle
#

lol it says its wrong

jagged sapphire
#

?

slim saddle
#

nevermind

jagged sapphire
#

i need help on my homework

deft blaze
#

study your trig

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sohcahtoa

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never heard of that?

jagged sapphire
#

na

deft blaze
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that's literally the beginning of everything

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what do you know about right angled triangles?

jagged sapphire
#

Ion know shit lol

deft blaze
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ahaha

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well you have 3 sides when given a triangle

jagged sapphire
#

i've always been bad at math
i have good grades in all my classes exept math.

deft blaze
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but right angled triangles are special cades

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cases

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because one angle is 90°

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do you know the angle which is 90° in your question?

jagged sapphire
#

yea

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H

deft blaze
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good

jagged sapphire
deft blaze
#

you know the opposite side, hypotenuse and adjacent?

jagged sapphire
#

no

deft blaze
#

ok

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the opposite side is the side directly opposite to your angle (line KH)

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hypotenuse is the longest side

jagged sapphire
#

gk

deft blaze
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adjacent is the last one

slim saddle
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adjacent is the side that is touching the angle, but isn't the hypotenuse

jagged sapphire
#

KH is adjacent

slim saddle
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KH is opposite

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angle G is facing KH, so KH is opposite

deft blaze
#

yes

jagged sapphire
#

so then

deft blaze
#

I usually just try to recognize my hypotenuse and opposite then I automatically know my adjacent

slim saddle
#

Hypotenuse is also the side opposite of the right angle

deft blaze
#

so you can use sohcahtoa to find the length of a side when given any of the angle and a side

jagged sapphire
#

what do i do after finding the oppiste and adjacent

slim saddle
#

soh is the sine function or the sin() on your calculator

deft blaze
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sin(theta)=opposite/hypotenuse

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cos(theta)=adjacent/hypotenuse

slim saddle
#

tan(theta)=opposite/adjacent

jagged sapphire
#

wtf

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My brian

slim saddle
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haha theta is the angle

deft blaze
#

yes the sohcahtoa is an abbreviation

jagged sapphire
#

brain

deft blaze
#

sine opposite hypotenuse

slim saddle
#

would you like an example of how to solve one of these problems?

jagged sapphire
#

Sine vs oppisite right

deft blaze
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lol

jagged sapphire
#

@slim saddle yes thank you?

deft blaze
#

you really should know all these things

jagged sapphire
#

i'm a retard at math lmafo

deft blaze
#

before being given that kind of question

slim saddle
#

@jagged sapphire your teacher isn't very good

deft blaze
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true

slim saddle
#

beam could you join the mathematics channel please?

jagged sapphire
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@slim saddle i never got math or geometry numbers isn't my thing

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yes

upper karma
#

pls help

next jackal
#

@upper karma Do you understand trigonometric identities?

upper karma
#

nothing

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at all in trig

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idk what the word even means

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pls help its my final

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@next jackal

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yea i am gonna commit

next jackal
#

@upper karma What do you see that you can do when $cos(\theta)$ is given and $\sin^2(\theta)+\cos^2(\theta)) = 1$?

somber coyoteBOT
deft blaze
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how'd one explain this even, isn't it just too obvious

upper karma
#

yea

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it is

ashen rain
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The answer is B

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I solved it logically

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However I want to know the actual way to do it?

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Can anyone guide me?

jagged sapphire
ashen rain
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@jagged sapphire

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Just add all the x coordinates and y coordinates and divide each sum by 4

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U Will get the centroid

jagged sapphire
#

@ashen rain Like what do you mean by adding

ashen rain
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-2+6+1+9

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@jagged sapphire

jagged sapphire
#

yeah

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ik

ashen rain
jagged sapphire
#

i figured it

ashen rain
#

Ok

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Then divide by 4

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To find the average

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@jagged sapphire

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U got it?

jagged sapphire
#

6

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14/4=6

ashen rain
#

How lol

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14/4 is not 6

jagged sapphire
#

3.5

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LMAO

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my bad

ashen rain
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Yeh

jagged sapphire
#

i was thinking 6x6 =14

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lol

ashen rain
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Lol

jagged sapphire
#

now for the y acis

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axis

ashen rain
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Ok out of the given options...option c is the right one lol

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@jagged sapphire

jagged sapphire
#

yea

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equals 3.5 too

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thanks @ashen rain

ashen rain
#

Ur welcome

jagged sapphire
#

now help with triangles @ashen rain

ashen rain
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Sure

jagged sapphire
#

can anyone help

earnest echo
#

Is that a test??

coarse crag
#

This is why i hated geometry, always have to remember the stupid names. While it has a correlation to if you actually know the answer, its not testing that, its testing if you can remember a level of abstraction of the reason.

jagged sapphire
jagged sapphire
earnest echo
#

What have you tried??

#

Draw a line through angle 2 parallel to lines a and b

limpid gust
#

so the angle is 120?

earnest echo
#

Yeah

limpid gust
#

thankyoy

#

you*

upper karma
#

<@&286206848099549185>

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help

earnest echo
#

Looks correct

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Wait, what test is that??

limpid gust
#

idk

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why

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??

deft blaze
limpid gust
#

@earnest echo why??

earnest echo
#

Because it's bannable offense to ask for help on tests

limpid gust
#

its not a test

jagged sapphire
#

help

limpid gust
#

who names these theorems

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smh

jagged sapphire
#

help

steep temple
#

how many types of triangles do you know

jagged sapphire
#

Right triangles

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the hyptonuse is the x

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4t on each side

steep temple
#

are you sure that is a right triangle

jagged sapphire
#

nope

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theres no lil square thingy

steep temple
#

so why are you talking about hypotenuses

jagged sapphire
#

my bad lol

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help

umbral snow
#

Did you get that last one?

steep temple
#

are you just posting your homework here

jagged sapphire
#

@umbral snow yeah by myself

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without help

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i watched a video

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i need help not awnsers

jagged sapphire
#

people dmed me a d helped

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and"

umbral snow
#

Maybe try watching the videos first, and post if you're struggling

thorny lintel
#

i mean number 2

solemn axle
#

A reference angle is the angle between a point and the x axis.

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So take 0 and 180 and do +- 89

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One of them is already 89 so just find the other three

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@thorny lintel

thorny lintel
#

why would you use 180? @solemn axle

upper karma
#

For any angle b, there are rules as to how you find the reference angle(a):

Quadrant 1: a = b
Quadrant 2: a = 180 - b
Quadrant 3: a = b - 180
Quadrant 4: a = 360 - b
@thorny lintel

tender prawn
thorny lintel
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wait isn’t the reference angle 89° already? @upper karma

tender prawn
#

im guessing i should use tan = sin/cos but i dont feel like i have enough info

upper karma
#

what problem you're trying to solve? @thorny lintel

thorny lintel
#

question 2 @upper karma

upper karma
#

yeah it is 89

silk patio
#

You should be able to rearrange it chicken and use cosine formula

#

cos(C)=1/2

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tan(C)=rt(3)

upper karma
#

r = 5

silk patio
#

Use intuition

upper karma
#

I've tried so many things, 45-45-90, tried using sin, cos, tan. none of it worked my answer was still wrong. One thing I have learned is that there must be a ratio between the big circle's radius and small circle's radius. I just need to find the ratio

green tree
silk patio
#

Join the centres of the two circles

green tree
#

help me please

silk patio
#

And create a right triangle

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And use trig

green tree
#

@silk patio

tender prawn
silk patio
#

Don’t at me

green tree
#

im asking for help mr famous

tender prawn
#

btw wdym by cos(C)=1/2
tan(C)=rt(3) sorry

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like

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oh

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if cos(C) = 1/2, tan(C) = sqrt3?

jagged magnet
#

yo

silk patio
#

Yeah probably

jagged magnet
#

can i get some help on this

silk patio
#

But to get that you rearrange it

jagged magnet
#

i dont quite understand the concept

tender prawn
#

just label a bunch of angles and use sum of angles in triangle is 180

#

also altitude forms a right angle with the base

silk patio
jagged magnet
#

we re in the same class

silk patio
#

Oh what

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No way

jagged magnet
#

and we had this problem adn we needed help

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idk why ur makng fun of us'

silk patio
#

Help each other dummy

green tree
#

@silk patio harrasing me and my friend

#

someone ban him

jagged magnet
#

all we asked for was help

tender prawn
green tree
#

this guy keeps harassing me

jagged magnet
#

and u ignored