#geometry-and-trigonometry
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Paperweight of $400g$ with density of $\frac{1.6g}{1cm^3}\$ Paperweight has base area of $120cm^2\$ Height is unknown value.
WanderingFurr
Now, this doesn’t seem to bad looking at it now.
If we’re trying to find height, and we have the base area, we need to find the cubic area, yes?
Given that the paperweight is $400g$ and the density is $\frac{1.6g}{1cm^3}$, is there a way to find the volume from this?
WanderingFurr
whoopsies
Yeah, we’re using mass here
$\frac{1.6}{x}=400$..?\ \I’m not entirely sure myself tbh but this seems most logical.
WanderingFurr
Right?
That..
I mean mathematically its right
But that sounds wrong in the context of this question
I see.
hmm..
1 cubic centimetre per 1.6g with 400g weight..
Why doesn’t it work out in my head..
Our base area is 120
Let’s focus on volume for now, because we need two values to solve for a third.
We can’t get volume from just one value
Okay.
I'm genuinely lost here 😭
It’s not $\frac{1.6g}{1cm^3}$, as that would imply that the $cm^3$ is what we have the most information for.
WanderingFurr
Mm.. density = volume/mass
Huhhh
Nah
yes i do wish i remembered that
Why is it multiplied here?
Volume = mass * density
This was correct
😭
Yeah i figured i was on the right track
Just couldn’t quite put the final piece together
So
@spring lion find volume using this
Mass*density got it
Did you have dinner?
400*1.6? That's mass times density
Uh yeah
Right?
Yes
Do you live any region near japan?
WanderingFurr
Australia
Good
I knew it heh
Now what?
Well, what info do we have now?
and the volume of the shapew
$v=\frac{1}{3}\times b \times h$ (Try filling in what you know now!)
OHHHHH
WanderingFurr
640=1/3*120*h?
$640=\frac{1}{3}\times 120 \times h$ (What now?)
WanderingFurr
Double check your answer by putting it in to the original equation
Ok!
$\frac{1}{3} \times 120 \times 16 = 640$?
WanderingFurr
NOW LET'S PRAY THE SITE DOESN'T CRASH AGAIN 😭🙏
LMFAOOOO
HOW DID WE THINK OF THE SAME THING??
It didn't crash. But it's false 😭
Great minds think alike
Not 16??
Density..?
$400 \times \frac{1}{1.6} =250 \neq 640$
bruh what
Brb
✍️🔥
Okay
WanderingFurr
Huh?
🤦♂️
yep..
Wallahi we are not crossing into heaven
Ong
minesweeper.
alright, hit me with one more and i’ll go to bed after
-# i pray this doesn’t fry my brain istg
ill hlep too since im here i guess
make that a sqrt(7)
what no we don’t need irrational mines
eugh
We got this bro
let the amount of liters which contain 25g of salt be x
now if each liter contains 2.1g
try to make an equation
Let me see.
||hint: what would the amount of salt in x liters be?||
$x=\frac{25}{2.1}\approx11.9$
Ummm
because you goatta round your answer to the nearest tenth
does anyone even remember how to round sh
1 liter:2.1
then x liters?
25 g!
WanderingFurr
and since each liter contains 2.1
1/2.1=x/25?
actually rounding is easy as hell
Nah wait ig i had brain fart
Is this right?
yeah i dont remember what the tenth and ones thingy mean
yes
Density =mass/volume
Tenth = 0.1
Hundredth = 0.01 etc etc
Ones = 1
x=25/2.1?
Yeah
This was wrong
congrats now your x is lonely
Yeah we got that q wrong..
now solve for its need
now round it up
to the nearest tenth
it is
Lmaoooo 😭 nahh go sleep or something bro
nah ill be fine trust
you can just like
no
theres no guarantee if you would doze off
i must math
🗣️🗣️🗣️
green tick of dopamine
YOU DESCRIBED IT PERFECTLY WELL
😭😭😭
Good night bro
ok so its weigh is 1kg
and its density is 1.5g/cm^3
find its volume from it
hint: ||density = M/V||
ye
4/3πr³?
theyre balls
yes
thats density
👍
take density = x. Volume = y and mass = M
so now it becomes x = M/y
if i multiply by y on both sides
it becomes xy = M
now divide by x
Density/Mass?
so volume = M / density
M is mass
Damn I'm dumb
Ok ok
ill like eat
Ohh
and that density should be volume
No like
?
1.5 grams per cubic centimeter
thats the density
Yeah
and we are trying to find the volume
ye. Density = 1.5g/cm^3
you just said it br 😭
Result:
666.66666666667
Zamn
now put uhh
the volume of the sphere
equal to this devil's number type sh
fu
i just bit my toung
Wait we gotta add mass too lol
😭
??
i remember once i like. Started to chew on a piece of paper
Mass/666.66
Ohh
so now
we have to find the radius of the sphere
,calc 1000/666.666
Result:
1.5000015000015
what is the volume of a sphere?
?
and what was the volume we calculated?
no
didnt we calculate this as the volume?
Right right
Now that's a part I struggle with...
take pi = 22/7 because it isnt given a value in the question
Ok ok
first like
solve the part (4/3)(22/7)r^3
what does it become if i simplify it
88/21r³?
ok now
Ohh
leave pi as pi
and round at the very end when using the calc to get the decimal approximation
oh alr
What's up 😭
3/4pi
Result:
500
500pi = r^3
Result:
1570.7963267949
😭 what
Right
1570
So the radius is
1570=r³
Did we make a mistake somewhere 💀
for sure
My head HURTS MAN
this is exactly why i dont trust myself even when doing basic addition like 34+88
he has already smitten me do you want it to be (smitten)^2? 😭
😭😭😭
Then I'm smitten⁹
so now mass is 990
Ok
Not 1/1.5?
density is in g/cm^3 and mass is in kg
the units arent the same
Right
either you convert the density into kg/m^3 or convert mass into g
So 990/1.5?
everyone with a right mine chooses the latter
=Volume
ye
,calc 990/1.5
now volume also = 4/3pir^3
Result:
660
put those two equal
660=4/3πr³.
ye
Multiply both sides by 3/4?
3/4pi
Yeahhh right
because we need to isolate the r
Yep yep
so it becomes
,calc 660*3/4
Result:
495
495/pi
/pi?
7*4 is 28 right? 😭
You here?
Lord actually smote bro 😭😭😭 we lost a real one today gentlemen
we doing this?
Yessir
ok mb i was like. Trying to find a music to play
😭
ok so now look
uhh
divide 3465 by 22
🤨
i took pi to be 22/7 btw
Should we do that?
ye
,calc 3465/22
Result:
157.5
157.5.
never take pi as 22/7 unless told to
5.400
use pi on the calculator
let it cook, then we decide if it was wrong ( tbh doesn't matter based on q)
i mean tbh like. Our country doesnt even allow calculators and we are told the rule that take pi = 22/7 unless told otherwise 😭
im getting mixed signals over here
Here the questions say what to take pi as.
that's a case of being told to use 22/7.
when will you say that
Wdym
157.56
157.5 yeah
495/pi = 157.56
Okay
,calc cbrt(495/pi)
Result:
5.4011359482782
what does the question say to take pi
Right
yeah and rounding it gives 5.4
pi = pi
No I meant in my country lol
oh mb then
5.4 something sommething
use $\pi$ for $\pi$ unless told otherwise. \
leave answers in terms of $\pi$ if asked for exact values \
if asked for a decimal approximation, use the value that you obtain from the calculator
ραμOmeganato5
i forgo tthe units 😭
So 5.4?
yes
5.4 cm
Oh yeah radius
Mb
I'm gonna TAKE A BREAK JESUS CHRIST
Like
I CAN'T FEEL MY HEAD
😭🙏
fire
thats real lightheadedness
idk if i spelt that correctly
Yes
I'm back y'all after a 3 hour break 🙏
I just need a hint
Currently I'm not sure what to do.
And I definitely don't want to ask to chatgpt lol 💀
check the units
people / km^2 * km^2 = people
$\frac{\text{people}}{\text{km}^2} \cdot \text{km}^2 = \text{people}$
south
no
People is 20000
And it's 480 for one km².
Well that's the density.
I know
Soooo
so $\frac{\text{people}}{\text{km}^2} \cdot \text{km}^2 = 20000$
south
Okay
and where can you sub in the 480 now?
we subbed in 20000 people already, so no
yes, this
Idk why we put people again there then?
we can use this equation to find the number of km^2
yes, well that's always true though
Obviously 😭
That's why I'm a little confuseddddd
you can sub this in directly!
(people / km^2)
480/1?
$480 \cdot \text{km}^2 = 20000$
south
I mean km² is just 1
Oh
OHHH we're looking for
Wow wait
I need to understand the logic rq
Can you explain the thought process?
Thank you in advance
,calc 20000/480
Result:
41.666666666667
okay, so the units on the left and right sides need to be the exact same
Right
hopefully you can see that this is the way to get the same units on both sides (people)
so actually what we did was a bit of a shortcut
People on both sides yeah
Okay
properly, it's $(480 \frac{\text{people}}{\text{km}^2}) \cdot (x \text{km}^2) = 20000 \text{people}$
south
Yeahhhh I completely understand thissss!
$(480 \frac{\cancel{\text{people}}}{\cancel{\text{km}^2}}) \cdot (x \cancel{\text{km}^2}) = 20000 \cancel{\text{people}}$
basically all the people and km^2 stuff cancels on both sides
leaving 480 * x = 20000
south
Yeahh
Wait can you give me a small example of just this?
Just so I can see I understood it
This chemistry and physics video tutorial focuses on dimensional analysis. It shows you how calculate the units of variable. This video is useful for students taking science courses such as chemistry or physics and for students taking math courses such as algebra, precalculus, or even calculus. This video contains a lot of formulas / equation...
that's the name of the topic, dimensional analysis
you need to get much better at algebra to fully fully understand it
but okay, here's one example you might be familiar with
speed, distance, time - what are the units?
speed = m / s
distance = m
time = s
we know that m/s * s = m
so we can conclude that speed * time = distance
Damn I already finished algebra 1 and 2 though
you seem to be struggling with basic stuff though
Let me censor something wait
okay, so all these problems you are doing are related to measurements, so lengths, volumes, and areas of shapes
yeah so I guess you just don't know this topic
I'm fairly good no?
Damn it 😭
it's weird cause you're not following a standard teaching order
which is why it's throwing me off
okay, I'll keep that in mind, that you know alg 1 and 2 when I next see you
it's just a statistically unlikely thing that someone has done those but not covered geometry
.
Well I always like to put geometry last
Since I struggle with it the most.
Ohhhh
Alright I get it noww
Is this right?
also, can I ask one more thing about what you're learning?
yeah so pi r^2 = 41.6666..., ezpz
Btw now I feel really bad about not having known this 😭
I finished algebra but struggled with this like bruhhh
have you done any physics or chemistry yet?
I've done 9-10th grade chemistry
I'm learning for the Turkish university exam.
oh yeah then the example in the video I sent had $Q = mc \Delta T$
south
enthalpy basically
Right
it's a similar pattern where the units are:
J = kg * J/(kg * °K) * (°K)
to do well in physics and chemistry, these two skills really help
- dimensional analysis, what we just covered
- working with proportionalities, so at least direct and inverse proportion
for example, $\text{surface area} = 4 \pi r^2$ means $\text{S.A} \propto r^2$
south
if you multiply the radius by 2, the S.A. gets multiplied by 2^2 = 4
okay so you do know a bit of geometry after all
😭
This is bare minimum but tbh I've gone a long way.
mhm!
Like months ago I couldn't do 6th grade geometry deadass
wow
Now I'm finishing hs geometry
Not kidding 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
I always thought I could never understand geometry
Here I am
So we found the (x)km² is 41.666
πr²=41.66
it was xkm²
yes
Result:
13.260789858417
🤨
r^2 = 41.66/pi, yes
,calc sqrt 13.260789858417
The following error occured while calculating:
Error: Unexpected type of argument in function multiplyScalar (expected: number or Complex or BigNumber or bigint or Fraction or Unit or string or boolean, actual: function, index: 0)
What do we do?
okay I really can't believe you completed alg 2 without knowing this
square root both sides
😭
But bruh
ah
I tried
,w sqrt(13.260789)
,calc sqrt(13.260789)
Result:
3.641536626206
Okay
So I did know to square root
Lol
I felt really bad
I hate disappointing people that try to teach me something
Ok
Thanks it was 3.64 👍
Really hits like a missile
😭
Last question before I finish hs geometry
So pyramid volume
1/3bh.
1/3*100*6?
Except um. How would I use that info?
Ohhhh wait.
Volume Mass Density formula?
yes
Lol how did I think of that 😭
Vol=200
Mass needs to be 300.
So we need to find density right?
Volume=Mass/Density
200=300*Density?
So density is 200/300?
But that ain't an integer
🤨
do they need integer?
Let me see.
Well they usually ask
Round it to tenth or hundredth
This question doesn't ask that.
,calc 200/300
Result:
0.66666666666667
0.66666
hm..they say should be atleast 300 g
try multiples of 200 greater than 300
400
oh nah mb
Okay
hmm.. now if they need integer then 2
.
then enter 1.5
Ok
Alright man thank you
This time I managed to do most of it myself so I'm happy!!
usually tell round off for multiple decimal places
You can tell there's progress since I actually thought of this LOL
yes
100%
Alright I'll just eat dinner and rest now man
gn
5.5 hours of geometry today
Don't 👋 in all channels please
Hope its ok to ask something like this here. Game about construction, Euclidea. On this level i had to do an inscribed square in 7 elementary moves (circles/lines). Why is (my) attempt on right not approved but the one on the left is.
i have a feeling that "sinAcosB + sinBcosA" and "tanA - tanB/1+tanAtanB" are identities.
i just cant prove it
hmm
usually an identity requires an = sign somewhere
no these two have like three questions on them in the book
"using A = 60 and B = 30 (degrees). confirm that sin(A+B) = sinAcosB+cosAsinB"
well you only included half the identity in your question
you aren't being asked to prove the identity for all angles, only for those specific angles
they are identities
fire
the proof will probably be in the book somewhere
Can anyone help me with this?:
What step are you on?
1. I don't know where to begin.
2. I have begun but got stuck midway.
3. I got an answer but I was told that it's wrong.
4. I got an answer and would like my work checked.
5. I have a question about someone else's work/solution.
6. I have completed the problem and don't need help anymore. Thank you.
7. None of the above
@dark sparrow give me an advice. How can I start any math problem in a correct way like the first step
I believe there's a contradiction in the clues given. So, one of them must be false, maybe clue 2 for the rest to be correct.
I know you didn’t ask me, but a good first step is to gather what information you have, and what information you’re looking for. Then figure out what processes you may need.
Why do they look like missing children?
why does that feel accurate
Why
2 specifically
1st statement :
Lee (a distance) Linh (a) Brad
or
Brad a Linh a Lee
2nd statement
Linh Tiina Trammy
or
Tammy Tiina Linh
Hm..
2 is false if between means no person else is between Tammy and Linh else 1st statement couldn't be true
3 :
Brad Tinna
Tinna Brad
4: Brad is to the side of Tiina where Tammy is
Eg:
Tammy Brad Tiina Linh
Fok this is not maths
Nope somethings wrong
Yo w questions lol
Yes, it is lol..
But I guess the clues are mistakenly written.
at the end if 1st statement was false,
LeeLinhTinnaTammyBrad would be it
indeed
Yeah..
Exactly.. one has to be false..
It works for easy direct questions but for other problems it feels some information isn't totally coming out like what is actually questions is asking
Guys, I'm having really big problems with geometry. I really want to master it, but I don't know where to start, and because of this, I'm already having problems at university.
I'm going to start learning it on my own soon, if you want I can share you my plan.
It uses some textbooks though
This will be very useful, so i’d be glad if you share with me
Sure! I did some research and found two textbooks that are rated well and cover more than the standards together. The first one is Geometry: Seeing, Doing, Understanding. I personally chose the third edition but the earlier ones are also good. This one has more on proofs and explaining why things are what they are. The second textbook I found was Big Ideas Math: Geometry which basically just covers the standard curriculum incase if the first textbook doesn't contain something. There's also Khan Academy to practice with which is good and you can ask questions about concepts here :)
Also there is this website for worksheets called kutasoftware if you need more practice
Thank you for helping me
Clue one makes this impossible due to there only being five students.
I'm curious how someone even managed to figure out the equation for a cardioid
$(x^2 + y^2)^2 + 4ax(x^2 + y^2) - 4a^2y^2 = 0$
Unchaynd
It's almost like a circle, except the radius changes as it goes around.
It's interesting that it has a polynomial representation
it follows from the polar equation
Ah, cool... that is another part of math I still have to learn
This (from Wikipedia) looks like what I was talking about a minute ago about the circle with a changing radius 🤔
the "1-cos(phi)" would represent the change in the radius as the curve goes around the origin... interesting!
I bet you can get all kinds of interesting shapes by setting r(phi) to some function
Guys, what advice could you give me to help me solve geometry problems? I can understand the properties of shapes and things like that, but I have a hard time using them
Be faithfull
Already ☦️
Prove why those properties are true
1/2
Wait wait
Um
√3/1?
Dangit I got it wrong.
It was so easy... 😭
Alright I did it
Chat
I got 2 right I wanna get the next 2 right as well.
I found 76.82...
But it says obtuse.
Oh wait.
Wait wait
,calc 180-76.82
Result:
103.18
103.18
Let me try that.
WOW LOL IT SLIPPED OFF MY MIND
🙏🙏🙏
Ok I'll ask this instead then, is it 10.83?
So 10.8~
Am I right?
Help is appreciated
,w 16/sin((180-39-42) deg)*sin(42 deg)
Ahhh! Nice! Thank you hah


Trigonometry is pretty fun god damn!
I took an hour break
Now time to continue the grind 💪
I'm enjoying this a lot lol
I'm gonna ask for help on this one chief.
Nvm I did it I was scared I'd get it wrong though.
Bro I wonder if the rest of precalculus will be as easy as this
I know sure as hell I couldn't move a finger in 11th grade
Now I'm mogging trigonometry
Of course I'm double checking all of my calculations with a calculator though.
Like I know 11²+13² is 290
But what if it isn't? 🤨
Hell I actually got it 280 at first
This shit's dangerous
Chat do I use law of sines for this?
Yes, right?
yep!
"Do not round during your calculations"
This just saved my life.
Wallahi I was almost gonna round 😭
Alright
wait no
thats the law of cos
mb sorry 😢
you can law of sin though
with missing angle
Can you check if it's 106?
(105.70...)
If I can solve these problems correctly I'll be really happy!
Yeah
yeah thats right 105.70
You can't law of cos, can you? You only have one side here.
Alright! Thanks.
This one is law of cos though.
Oh wait
mmh that one is law of sin
yess i saw it come out right as i sent it
I swear I realized it before seeing this
YESSSS
yesss!!!
yep
It's asking for degree.
Now um
Sin30*95?
So that's 47.5.
48x=47.5
I did it hehe
The key is to realize it's sin or cos law
After that it's pretty easy.
nice! usually thats the hardest part
I swear I'm getting good at this
Nowww
THIS is law of cos, yes? Come on.
We have 2 sides
1 angle
(for cos)
And a c that's not given
this is defination law of cosin
there are 2 sides and no angles assocaited with either of those 2 known sides. and yeah 1 angle for the missing
Yuppp
Nowwww
I'll have to use paper for this one
You solve it but don't give me the answer lol
Ty
HOLY MACARONI I JUST REALIZED
250 SQUARED 💀💀💀
This shit ain't done without a calculator
,calc 250^2+360^2
Result:
1.921e+5
i use desmos when im on the computer lol and the phone if i dont have a calculator
I'm on mobile rn
149226.76306
Did you get this number?
This is the squared version of c.
Wait no
Um
192100-149226.76306
,calc 192100-149226.76306
Result:
42873.23694
,calc sqrt 42873.23694
The following error occured while calculating:
Error: Unexpected type of argument in function multiplyScalar (expected: number or Complex or BigNumber or bigint or Fraction or Unit or string or boolean, actual: function, index: 0)
Shit
I found 207. Wbu?
I got 207.06
Yeah
You got the right answer!
You gotta round it.

LET'S GOOO
aight, 207 it is then
Yupppp
I'm doing trigonometry problems bro 🥹
Past me would be proud
@next mantle GUSTAVO???
this aint trig yet friend..... wait until you get some crazy trig stuff
Don't burst my bubble man 😭
@spring lion try this:
$\sin{(\arctan{(\frac{3}{4})})}$
if you just follow the definitions and identities its actually easier than alot of things. and its like some nice trick book you get
How do you solve this? I can solve another similar one if I learn how.
Well wait
Tan is
Sin/cos
💀
Blob
there we go
Is this some really easy thing that I can't do for some reason...
oh yeah, once you know the trick, any problem like this is easy
I don't remember solving stuff similar to this on Khan academy ngl
this is much more advanced, dw
Why you scaring me like that 😭🙏 I thought I failed miserably
Since I couldn't even move a pencil
If I gave you the answer, you might be able to figure out how to solve it
Hmmm
backtrack the steps
Don't give a man an answer, give the man the logic to solve the question
-Icarus, China, BC 200
(Real quote by me)
you put 3/4 into arctan... so what is tan theta
36 degrees?

And then we find sin36
0.58
I see.
i wanna say cut it in half but i dont know if you can
no it would make more unknowns
has herons formula been introduced yet?
Dangit I made a calculation error
No idk
Ok I have just one last question
Can you help with this bro?
2 side lengths with no corresponding angle... an angle with a missing side length...
Law of cosines?
Yeah?
Bro they're giving such ridiculous numbers even with calculators I'm like wtf am I doing 😭
open new tab and use desmos not google
Ok
One sec
I'm making space in my notebook
80 pages and 70 are filled to the brim with math 😭
might be time for a bigger notebook 😄
Hahaha
I'm gonna get one for sure
Now then...let me see!
I'll write the equation first
Then do the math
On desmos.
Uhhh it says this doesn't support it
Ah
and it just to be under a sqaure root
Sorry not used to desmos.
Wdym
