#geometry-and-trigonometry
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A,B and C are three sequential points on a straight line on horizontal ground. A vertical flagpole PQ is situated close by the line (but its base P is not on the line). The angles of elevation of the top of the flagpole from A, B and C are tan^-1 (1/4), tan^-1 (1/2) and tan^-1 (1/3) respectively. If AB = 90m and BC = 30m, find the height of the flagpole.
3d shapes are pain
hey would it be possible to get some tips on geometry?
I would suggest Khan Academy or Organic Chemistry
Yo guys
I’m studying for the PSAT
I do calculus for fun but I forgot a bit of geometry
I need help
What is the name of the measure from the perimeter of an n-gon to its center point?
IIRC it’s like starting with an A
hi
Is there some very efficient formula for triangle area with points given?
i want to use it in algorithm so idealy it should have no roots/exp/arctg
simplier to compute the better
shoelace formula?
The shoelace formula, shoelace algorithm, or shoelace method (also known as Gauss's area formula and the surveyor's formula) is a mathematical algorithm to determine the area of a simple polygon whose vertices are described by their Cartesian coordinates in the plane. It is called the shoelace formula because of the constant cross-multiplying fo...
Im figuring out the formula
Nvm.thete was a mistake in excersise xddd
What does that even mean
Idk that's why I am asking you guys you know math
Kind of yes
I would ask your teacher to clarify
Can you check dm
We can find area of triangle directly by using coordinates of three vertices of triangle. Heron's formula can be lengthy in some situations. Therefore, we can prefer direct formula to find area of triangle using coordinates of vertices of triangle.
oh nice
i expected it to use addition and multiplication only

im interested in teaching myself trigonometry since my school doesnt appear to teach it at all do you guys have pointers where to start
khan
Trigonometry is a branch of mathematics that studies relationships between side lengths and angles of #triangles. Throughout history, #trigonometry has been applied in areas such as geodesy, surveying, celestial mechanics, and navigation. Trigonometry is known for its many identities, which are equations used for rewriting #trigonometrical expre...
it covers everything u need on a high school level
i see this problem is quite common around the world

in what part of world you live, if not secret?
why does it matter
just wondering
its not relevant really
Use C=pi-A-B and compound angle identities to get rid of C from the equation
Then simplify
Can someone tell me about it
does a deltoid have symmetry center?
can you take another pictured more zoomed in? I don't know if the numbers are 15,6,8,10, It's too blurry on my side.
The rectangles are multiplied by the length x width. The triangles are multiplied by length x width and then divide by 2.
usa
My condolences
you can just add them all together
trigonometry seems easy
just scribble on the graph and ur guaranteed to get a 100
170 pie
nice
someon plz explain the difference between sin cos tan csc sec cot
i learned how to make wine glasses using math
and cups
is this why my math teacher says trigonometry is stupid math
stupid?
i think he does not know what triangulate means and how it is used in operations such as spying to catch spies and do more stuff related to technology
dang
what is the qualification of ur teacher?
he teaches algebra 1
Whatever "algebra 1" covers varies school to school
well
first semester we went over
inequalities
slope
systems of equations
that kinda stuff
second semester we only did quadratics
Can someone help me with this?
The equation for a linear line is y=mx+b
M is your slope
And b is your y intercept
Now, you're already given the slope,m, which is -2
You just need to find what b is, and you can do that with the coordinate point that you are provided with
(3,4)
Your line is y=-2x+b
And your x,y coordinate is 3,4
Meaning that when x is 3, the y value is 4
In other words: 4=-2(3)+b
Yeah
So getting b alone would mean we move 4
4=-6+b
Yep
You already have (3,4)
Choose another point
Use a straight edge to connect the two points
But whatever point it may be, it must hold true for the equation
Your equation is y=-2x+10
Say you chose x=-2
That would be y=-2(-2)+10, which is 14
So at x =-2, your y coordinate is 14
What is 2 added with 10
Sorry 12
@timber cargo so this is what the graph would be?
Get another point
Or just align your straight edge to the points and draw a continuous line throughout the graph
Point slope equation is this
Your m is the slope
And x1 and y1 is your corresponding coordinate point
So it would be 12-4=-2(-1-3)?
Also, @timber cargo
That’s my third point, is that good?
Yeah, and just draw arrows at each end of the line to signify that the line is continuous
Awesome!
^is this good @timber cargo
No
Leave the y and x alone, all your substituting into is 3 and 4 into X1 and Y1
So, y-4=-2(x-3)
That’s the equation in point slope form?
That's correct
Right. that's y=mx+b
No, you're asked to find the equation of the line
Whoch is y=-2x+10
What you did tells me that this equation above is true for that point
Ok
C is y=2x+10
Then d wants the y intercept
I also changed the graph because the first one I didn’t have (3,4). Is this correct now?
@timber cargo sorry to ping you, I didn’t know if you saw
Why would it be 10?
Recall what b is again
B is the y intercept of the graph
So should I redo the graph?
Just label where the graph intercept the y axis (0,10)
That’s correct
can anyone help me out
show work.
you probably made a small error seeing as you got everything else correct
specifically sec(A)
cos(A) = b/c
b = 5 = √(25)
c² = b² + a² = 125
=> c = √(125)
cos(A) = √(25/125) = √(0.2)
maybe I misunderstood, but it seems to be correct
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5 tan (A) * tan (B) = 5 * tan (A) * tan (B)?
i don't understand how 5 * tan(A) * tan(B) = 2
because tan(A) * tan(B) = 1
Thanks a lot brooooo
You're welcome 😊
Idk how to justify them and finish the exercise
Can I tag Helper too if no one respond?
does
$\measuredangle CDK = \measuredangle CBA$ proof that DK is parallel to BA ?
C, D, B are colinear
Affe
hello anyone can send worksheets with answer in geometry solids which whats the valuess
guys can someone tell me about the sine and cosine rules? I need it for a test tomorrow and the teacher hasn't even discussed it in class
Google can tell you much faster than we can manually
because you are calculating square of radius for sphere, you have to calculate cube of radius
@upper karma
Hi! I was wondering what areas of mathematics i would have to understand before delving into fractal geometry?
You finish it?
Could you tell me what you got for an answer?
I dont beleive there would be a second triangle.
And you tried those values for an answer?
Then the second triangle you need to complete.
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true
Did you try this formulas?
Hey guys, does someone how to calculate complementary angles and that kind of stuff?
Like
Parallel angles
idk how it is called
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example bro
I dont speak english as first language
lemme check
Here
Based on this
With the given angle
How would you calculate this other angle
Which other angle?
That would be.
Think that the line is perpendicular to the line the box is in
The crooked one
Not the Y axis one
How is that property called?
And how would you calculate stuff like thaat
This is assuming all the infoirmation you have is the angle 30?
Yup
I have to find the missing angle
And everything i have is that
Only thing i know is that
would it be 30?
Yup
Theta would be 30.
But how do get to that conclusion
Thats the thing i want to learn
Because im going to need to do a lot of stuff like that
Theta is 30 because its 60 degrees to a riht angle.
How do you compare theta to a right angle
Like
How do you see that
I cant see it
Idk if that would help bro.
the angle of 30 and theta are the same because you just imagine it as a triangle rotated 90 degrees to the right
Sorry, i kinda get it, but i cant understand
Dont you know if thats a property or something i can search on google?
The property is that angles withing a right angle add up to 90 degrees
Well, yea
Ur right
Thanks
Ey man
Sorry for bothering
But i didnt get it at all
Im trying to do it myself
But i cant
Can you get me through your thought process?
And what things did you do and think to get that conclusion?
Alr, i think i got my own thought process
Lemme know if im right
So, if the green line is parallel to the hypotenuse
Then the red line is going to be parallel to the oposite
And we already know that that angle is 30
So
If the angles of the green bars are 90°, because they represent axis and so
Then the other angle is 60
Because thats whats left to complete the full 90°
Can someone prove me right or wrong please?
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Well, then im right
The thing is that i need to draw stuff like that
Making axis parallel to the surface the object im studying is resting
So ye
The red line represents the gravity
And you know, gravity is always going down
But yea, thanks bud
Can someone explain how my textbook got the answer 10.1?
When i plug it into my calculator I get -13.6
Can someone help me with c?
y'all
try trigonometry by sl loney
its an amazing book
I finished the book after 5 months
and I feel fucking great
^
180 degrees?
yeah
did you already know the concepts and just used the book for practice or reference or did you use it as an introductory textbook.
Im a bit confused so im doing the law of sines and cosines
and my teacher gave me a problem
with no angle
but with all sides
how do I find all angles
What’s the problem set?
problem set?
What is the problem that you’re teacher assigned to you
a triangle that is not a right one with 3 sides being (21.4,29.5,13.9) and asked to find the 3 angles
inverse trig functions
for that
to get the angle
So i
did law of cosines
then when it got to the final step i left cos A on one side
then the rest on the right and got 25.986
using inverse trig cos
Construct a triangle with such side lengths and manipulate that triangle to try to get the angles
I kind of just want someone to double check my work
my basics were stronge, I used it to master advanced trigonometry
Hi, I asked about where to find info on this topic, I'm asking here just in case it's specific of this channel #help-0 message
am i trippin or how is this wrong
maybe you need to do < > or i + j
nah that wasnt it 😦
looks fine to me then
they're correct
huh must be a mistake with the professors answer then, had that happen b4
can someone tell me if x is 8.478708228 and if not a good spot to kms
it is not
is it 13.57?
yes
alright thank you
Can someone help me with the ones that are circled #?
What kind of equations are they
Start with identifying what kind of equation you're given
They are the equations for a circle
You need to understand components of the equation
The the center of the circle is $(h, k)$. Then the equation of a circle is:
$$(x-h)^2 + (y-k)^2 = r^2$$
Umbraleviathan
So let's look at the first equation:
x^2 + y^2 = 49
What is the radius and center?
@vestal kraken
Doesn’t tell me
49
r is the radius
No that's r^2
If r^2 = 49
What is r
Square or square root?
Do I square it or square root it
You want to do the inverse of the ^2, so square root
This should be familiar stuff if you're dealing with circles and conics
r^2 = 49
=> r = sqrt(49)
What is sqrt(49)
7
So that's your radius
I don’t understand equation symbols so correct me if I’m wrong
What's your center
Refer up to here if need be
I'll give you a hint
x^2 is the same as (x-0)^2
I don’t think I have that unless I have to solve for it
I have the equation down
Perhaps look at the practice problems in here
They go each one step-by-step should you get stuck
doesnt matter how easy they are
asking people to do your work is academic dishonesty
Ok then nvrmind
youre tutoring and you havent done alg 1?
okay so then why are you asking for someone to do some problems
so youre asking someone to check the work of the person youre supposed to tutor?
do you realize the stupidity of what you are saying
youre asking someone to do the tutoring for you
Hey did I hear someone was going to pay someone to do their homework?
Is that what I call
Time to ping the moderators??
I'm making notes, are these accurate and if not what can I fix? (7th grade so we're not doing too complicated things)
Is there anything important I should include or is it good?
,rotate
Lol if your notes were any messier they might as well be painted by Basquait
How much of this do you actually need
Because it's pretty cluttered
I kinda need all of it but I just started and added on as I remembered it
Like the thing is it just seems like spaghetti
I'm not good at writing notes
Like do you need to write down what acute, obtuse, and right angles are
I would save space for the theorems
And shape properties
Like keep the vertical angle stuff
But ngl I would try to organize it more and focus more on theorems
And then if you really like math, try to prove the theorems by yourself
That way it'll kinda engrain itself into your mind
I got this as an organize and make room kinda thing( haven't added anything else yet
,rotate
What's with the 1 = 2/3 thing
I need the isosceles and scalene bc I can never remember the difference
Idk, kinda saying that s =o/h
Useless ig bc that's easy
SOHCAHTOA kinda covers it but sure
And the areas for circles/squares/triangles
I mean you'd have to deal with more
Not sure if you need to document those compared to area of a trapezium/hexagon/pentagon
How far have you gotten in geometry
I can never remember circle's for some reason but the other 2 are easy to remember
Forgor abt tose shapes lmao my brain is peanut sized
And then the 90°, 180°, 360°
Do you absolutely need those
Because as geometry progresses you'd need more space for the theorems
Like lemme see if I can recall the shit I had to write down for geometry
• Law of Sines
• Law of Cosines
• sin(a +/- b) identity
• cos(a +/- b) identity
• Pythagorean identity for trig
• Heron's formula
• Geometric Mean theorem
• Chord-Chord, Secant-Tangent, Secant-Secant power theorems
• Area of a trapezium
• Area of a kite
• The sum of all interior angles of an n-gon
• Circumcenter, orthocenter, and centroids
• volume of a frustum
Thats what I remember having to learn on the top of my head
Im disregarding the proof stuff
Like the thing is, the more you do the more it'll stick
For me, I never really remembered the volume of a frustum or the geometric mean theorem
But after doing a fuck ton of law of cosines and sines, i kinda got used to it and then was able to prove them to fortify my understanding
Trapezoid=trapezium right?
the volume of a frustum is just the volume of the whole shape (pyramid/cone) minus the volume of the part that's cut out.
Yeah
Yeah but there's a more direct formula
right, but you could figure it out if you needed to
$\frac{\pi h r^2}{3}$
Umbraleviathan
1/3 the volume of the corresponding cylinder
What I got so far
I removed sohcahtoa bc I can remember that
Idk how to draw a GOOD sphere so it's ugly
Also kites I have in my head as s pq over 2
How-
Ydzygz
I tryna say that the radius is 2× the diameter
i'd say do more math problems so u need not worry too much without those
yo can someone please help me wit these i got 4 questions i need done and they hard for me😭
I don’t understand center angles and inscribed angles. I really don’t.
For examples it says find the value of X. 74 degrees and (7x-3) that’s the thing idk how to do this and my teacher doesn’t really do a good job at explaining it
The sides and classification of a triangle are give below. The length of the longest side is the integer give. Find x:
x+2, x+3, 29; acute.
So I know that (x+2)^2 + (x+3)^2 > 29^2. The answer I get is x = 18 or -23.
However, we need to verify whether it forms a triangle. So (x+2) + (x+3) > 29.
But the answer key says "x+3 < 29, so x < 26."
The final answer becomes 18 < x < 26.
My answer was 12 < x < 18.
Can someone help me please, I don't know how to do this.
ABC is a right-angle triangle inscribed within (O) (B=90). D is on the chord that doesn't have B. M is on DC chord. N is on BC chord. The intersection of DC and AM is E, the intersection of BC and AN is F, the intersection of DN and BM is K. Prove E, F, K is linear.
how to find the end coordinates of vector, if we know whole and start of vector?
f)12
e)24
answer: 10*5squareroot5
answer:squareroot125
@cyan wren
answer:(𝑥−4)^2+(𝑦+5)^2=81
What’s the formula for the fourth one?
a)(-3,2)
b)3
c)⁅9𝜋⁆
trigonemetric square(x)+square(xsquareroot3)=x
squareroot(x)
sinus and cosinus teorem
Don't just answer the questions for him, instead guide him to the answer
ok i'm new i'm sorry
Can someone help me with geomtry Question?
Yes,ı can help
it doesnt translate right on google
Alright, post the question here
In Same language?
Yeah
Hi just wondering how u would work this out 2 circles 1 inside the other not touching and you have to find the limits for a letter in the radius
please translate
for Q.4, refer to 30-60-90 special right triangle, where the shortest side measures x, longer side measures sqrt.3 times x, and longest side (hypotenuse, or 12 sqrt. 3 in in this case) is twice the measure of shortest side. Since, the original triangle is a right triangle, u can draw an altitude perpendicular to the hypotenuse (e), thus u can refer to right triangle theorem. Hence, you may get the values of e and f from the geometric mean formulas (which were got from the ratio of corresponding sides of the orig triangle and the smaller 2 right trigs made by the altitude drawn to hypotenuse)
for Q3, you are given an equilateral triangle, and u did the right step so far on diving the value of base into 2 equal measures. you can refer to pythagorean theorem; altitude^2 = hypotenuse^2-base^2 and then once u have the value of altitude, get the area of triangle which is half the product of base and height
or simply refer to heron's formula if u're more familiar with it
wassup
hey was wondering if anyone got a graphing tool for function in the complex plane?
i thought geogebra can’t go 3D
thats like why people use it lol
so can i graph 3d complex things with geogebra
ty

ok hear me out im trying to graph the function sin(x)^sin(x) without using complex numbers it looks something like this-in the section sin(x)<0 there should be a complex output because of squareroot of negativ
isnt it just x^2+x^2=(12sqrt(2))^2
then solve for x
Sin(30)*x=9 x=18 ac 9squareroot3 ab=18
Sin30=1/2 sin60=squareroot3/2
Sin cos function
This math video tutorial provides a basic introduction into trigonometry. It covers trigonometric ratios such as sine, cosine, and tangent. It explains how to evaluate it using right triangle trigonometry and SOHCAHTOA. In addition, it explains how to solve the missing sides of triangles and how to find the missing angles using inverse trig f...
and tan
I can't explain it out loud. my english is not good
You can find the results by multiplying the x value with the trigonometric functions
khanacademy
Me who just knows cos tan and sin 😟
idk is there part of the screenshot missing or something
looks like a physics problem wihout the full question given
how would I go about learning how to do this?
You just need to know your unit circle
That’s it
(a) get sin theta alone
And then find where the value is true on the unit circle
(b) is already alone so now you need to evaluate where cos(5x) = sqr rt/2 divided by 2 is true then divide the solutions by 5 or multiply by 1/5, whichever you prefer
(a) sin(theta) = sqrt3/2
theta = pi/3 + 2pik, 2pi/3 + 2pik, k is an integer
(b) cos(u) = sqrt2/2, u=5x
u = pi/4+2pik, 7pi/4 + 2pik = 5x
x = pi/20 + 2pik/5, 7pi/20 + 2pik/5, k is an integer
1^2 = 1, 1^3 = 1, 1 = 1, 1^2 = 1^3, log_1(1^2) = log_1(1^3), 2(log_1(1)) = 3(log_1(1)), 2(1) = 3(1), therefore 2 = 3
what do you mean by unit circle, when it came to the question i don't understand what it means by find the first ''four'' solutions. I thought I would need to rearrange and just plug it into the calculator
I hate to warn you but
!nosols
As a helper, please do not give out answers that could be copied as a homework solution. Have the student work through the problem themselves and guide them along the way.
Name changed here
shoutout to the right triangle
^
u can use other methods such as cosine rule and sine rule
No way I love soh cah toa
its just saying that if its in equilibrium there is no resultant force acting on the body. Therefore, sum of all forces in x and sum of all forces in y are 0
i assume the question is finding tension in the string?
shoutout to the right triangle
🗣️
brain was dying at the time, thought it said 20 degrees not 2theta xd
does this server have a general
The unit circle is the circle with a radius of 1
LMFASO THE CHANNEL NAME THO
lmaoo
thx
No worries
can someone help
If u draw perpendiculars from the incenter to the sides,
Like here FD and DE
Join DH , you’ll get two congruent triangles
And congruent triangles have congruent sides
So if u overlap the two triangles with respect to their common side DH, you’ll find the corresponding matching segment
Fuck circle theorems
Best resources/notes for geometry and trigonometry? I'm taking precalc next year so anything to help review key concepts would help a lot!
Why are the two answers different?
You're finding two different angles within the same triangle. If they were the same, wouldn't form a valid right-angled triangle, unless it happened to be 45 degrees
Ok thanks
i made this earlier and thought i would share it because it was cool
its just all of the base trig functions on the unit circle
i should clean it up a bit because currently there is no organization there. that or remake it entirely just to make it more clean
i will come back with a better one
any suggestions for the color for each function
Not really
is there different area formulas for trapezoids depending on what kind they are?
what kind they are?
right, scalene, isosceles, those
i believe unless theres something im missing there should be a different formula for them
im pretty sure its just A = 1/2(a+b)h for all of them
where a and b are the side lengths of the parallel sides and h is the distance between them?
yes
Yo, I'm learning Trig for the first time and have gotten to learning about unit circles. I get the concept pretty well, but it's thrown an example at me that I'm not really following.
I understand the principle, but the examples seems... Gimmicky? In all three cases the distance moved along the the arc is equivalent to some sort of reflection for P, so they don't actually have to compute any points... The section doesn't show how to really obtain the points in other normal cases. I understand how to find the distance along the arc, but not how to calculate the new point
it's possible they get into later, but it feels like a bit of a backwards way to get into it no?
What is a congruent line
two lines that have the same length are said to be congruent
so what can be congruent here?
Are we looking at a list of points?
i dont think i understand
I think I do maybe, is this a table of x/y values @mortal nexus and you're trying to find congruent line segments?
from what i understand P(t) is the point at angle t, and its just translating the angle to make either coordinate negative or positive
so if the point at angle t is equal to (x, y) the point at angle (t + pi) would be (-x, -y)
and if you were to just make the angle negative it would be the same in the negative direction so only the y value would change
if you are looking to translate a point by a specific angle, the x coordinate of the point is r cos A, and the y coordinate is r sin A, where A is angle and r is radius
Yeah, I'm following that much at least, what bothers me is that it doesn't really explain the process for P(t+n) when n isn't some convenient value that neatly reflects the point across an axis
ah okay, this is what I was wondering
i can make a graph really quick to demonstrate
I think I understand, but a graph would be cool. From what I'm following in the case of the unit circle r = 1, so the process is pretty straight forward.
P(t + 3), and we have the point P(3,4), we'd need to find theta, then take t+3 as a new angle, finding sin and cos for the x and y?
yes. you can also find the radius from the distance of the coordinate from the center
thats a neat graph, thanks!
so you kind of work backwards from a point to find the angle and the radius, then you can translate it
@short echo @vast geyser
i dont exactly know what im looking for there gom. i dont see what the table means
is it a coordinate table?
Intersection lines
I’m searching for the congruent angles
to find congruent lines you need lengths of lines.
oh wait congruent angles?
like this one?
yes
there you go, you need to find which angles are equal, and therefore congruent
so 1 and 3 for example
yes, 1, 3 are also congruent to 7 and 5 since a and b are parallel as well
Where can i practice math
Isn't this just about symmetry then? if A and B are parallel then 1,3,7,5 are congruent with each other and 8,6,2,4 are congruent
that is a hard question, i like to write my own questions, but its hard to find questions that make sense. I have learned most of my math by just looking into problems, and looking stuff up to find more problems.
its hard to get practice, asking a teacher might be the best way, there are also khan academy courses on stuff like this
khan academy is really useful
yes,
Does engineering require maths
a ton.
and what does pre uni mean?
This is as good of a place as any I suppose, I agree with oogie that writing your own questions is a good method. When you think you understand a topic, try making up a new example and working through it.
With stuff like factoring this is really good for forming a deeper understanding
pre university
factoring is so interesting.
you know how to find roots of a polynomial by factoring?
because apparently theres an equation for doing it with 2nd, 3rd, and 4th degree polynomials
I think so lmao, I'm currently taking pre-calc on an accelerated schedule so I'm just flying through topics trying not to lose my mind
but there cant be a 5th one
Ik but is it like you’re entering uni but not yet or?
im not too sure, im still not there yet lmao
ye next year i got precalc 12 and calc 12
so it might be pretty rough
precalc is the basics of calculus?
i think that its just anything beforehand
kinda, but mostly a review of all the subjects required for it
precalc is kind of the prerequisites to learn calculus, its the building blocks you need for calc
algebra, trig, ect all crammed together
because calc can require some very advanced algebra trig and so on
its also learning how to use powers way better and polynomial theory
which are insanely useful
and all squares have 360 °
if you want to do calculus, double down on polynomials and trig
Where do i learn polynomials and trig:/
inner angles, the inner angles of a shape with n sides sum up to 180(n-2)
what grade are you in currently?
9
ah. you should learn them soon enough in math courses, i dont exactly know the curriculum outside of Canada
but if you want to start early, you can probably find some stuff online
Idk if you're just getting started learning math Gom, but the question about engineering makes me think you may be. If you're feeling discouraged, please don't be. I'm 27 and just going back to university.
My parents decided to "homeschool" me for highschool, basically just left me alone all day with an AP Algebra book to figure it out myself. On top of having unmedicated ADHD. Not a single thing stuck.
Then I started community college in 10th grade, I literally cheated to pass all my college math classes because I was lacking a foundation. Never felt right and had a lot of self-hate because of it. Last year I decided I was going to set things right and am taking optional math classes and am basically starting over
In just a few months, I've managed to wrap my head around and enjoy subjects that used to make highschool-me want to throw up
heres the equation for the 4th one if you were wondering, its like the quadratic formula on crack
good for you man.
i have some severe ADHD as well
im medicated but its still tough
Same now
and ive been pushing the hell outta myself to do well in school
im just gonna power through school and then itll all fix itself lmfao
but ive always had a strong interest in math, I had a teacher in like grade 3 that said i should help correct other students work and i just was like thats it im the math guy
problem is that next year is going to be even more hellish than this one
I'm tryna be an electrical engineer, with robotics, physics, math, and coding
so i can do stuff with robots that do useful stuff
but holy hell its been tough
I find ADHD makes it much harder to learn, but when I do learn things I learn them in a very deep and fundamental way.
In my experience, my working memory sucks. So I desire a intuitive understanding of the subjects I'm trying to learn. Neurotypicals can memorize a formula, then use it a few hundred times until the concept makes sense, and that's how education is structured. It teaches a working understanding, then expects you to develop a deeper one with time. But if I don't have that deeper understanding right away, the formulas and rules slip my mind, and I make mistakes
finding ways to quickly develop understanding before moving onto new subjects has been a really important part of learning to self-study lol
as well as finding my tolerance level for accepting things i don't totally "get" and coming back to them later
yeah, for us its very difficult to learn through tedious repetition
sometimes i jump into a project way too advanced for me, then i search up how, and see the methods and search how to do those, and just decompose it to learn more
yeah diving into the deep end is a good strategy if you can avoid feeling overwhelmed
yeah, i remember learning calculus specifically because my friend drew a shape. that is all
he drew 2 non simmilar triangles
and connected them to make an object
so i took 4 weeks learning calc to find the volume
lol thats great
When I was 19 or so I decided I was going to make an entire 3D rendering engine from scratch, worked on it for over a year. Was some of the most challenging math and programming I've ever done, was my first introduction to vectors, matrixes, trig in general, not to mention an absolutely massive amount of programming concepts
oh god, matrixes in coding are hell
i made a 4 dimensional matrix in a certain code, and it was
so bad to organize and scan through
Yeah it really neat, 3D graphics work by representing the view as a 4D projection matrix. It allows you to perform translation, rotation, and scaling in a single operation by multiplying another translation matrix against it
oh god matrix multiplication
so in practice, a computer renders 3D graphics by transforming the entire world AROUND your screen, your view position never moves
i have a rotation thing that i made in desmos,
i have heard this before, despite my coding revolving around programs rather than engines
found the graph https://www.desmos.com/calculator/27ahhcuq0z
tbh a huge motivator for learning math again has been shader programming lol
that's pretty sick
if you go to the graph its animated
yeah im looking, its wild
that one took me a second to make
it was one of the more difficult ones
especially since i cant think rotation in 3d
have you ever messed around with https://www.shadertoy.com ? seems like your kind of thing. I want to play around with it so bad, but im not quite advanced enough to make anything very fun. Some simple fractals if i follow a guide
but i feel like you're at a level where you could do some pretty neat things with it if you wanted
basically what you're doing with desmos but in a language called GLSL, "OpenGL shading language"
oh god i dont know that language
its a very low level language that lets you send instructions to the GPU and render things on the screen, at it's core all it lets you do is place a pixel on the screen and decide it's color
the rest is math
huh. thats really interesting, it would definitely be good for my coding skill as well
yeah lol be careful what you open some are huge or unoptimized
that is a very broad question
also the front page is the programming equivalent of the front page of Instagram lmao, its quite insane what people have made
id think generally through practice
yeah theres some crazy stuff there
heres another kind of "3d" thing i made on desmos https://www.desmos.com/calculator/99cxho33rm
that one is animated as well, and you can even choose the quality of the graphics
yeah that's a loaded question for sure lol, "practice" is generally the only way to understand anything, but you may be interested in more nuanced answers
like how someone specifically understands a subject
another good way to understand trig is to get on desmos and make things
The way you understand trig is the way you understand woodworking, programming, water skiing, or any other skill really. You break it down into it's fundamental parts, understand those, then build ontop of them
At it's core, mathematics is a language that defines relationships. You can memorize all the "words" of math, but you also need to understand what they mean. I think trig is the ultimate example of this tbh because everything ties back into something that's pretty intuitive: shapes, lines, and distances
Are you just starting trig? @open sun
also yeah, you could make some sick stuff in shadertoy lol
ill try it sometime
best part is that the shaders can be translated to engines like Unity pretty easily
Can you believe I didn't know what a reciprocal was until last year? lol
wait how
Was never taught it :/
thats fair
seeing it described for the first time was like taking the limitless pill or something. I suddenly could see how every operation can be defined with addition, and that all of math is just layers of abstraction on top of those central principles.
like computing
yeah, learning how division and multiplication are one in the same is very important
yeah fr, never had it lmao. It also forced me to understand fractions a lot better, I'd never learned "proportional reasoning" but that was enlightening as well
had a lot of epiphanies that should not have been very impressive but where to me lmao
yeah, some things you realize just change everything
well, thanks for the explanation earlier, I should get to work
alr, cya man
sadly yes
i've just discovered that my calculator is incapable of returning exact values for trig functions
decimals only
Alright doing my last question for today
I think im just having a brain meltdown, but i have no clue how they want me to format this answer
like it's pretty simple but im not sure how to write it down lol, the value of X is periodic, repeats an infinite number of times
look up general solutions trig for examples
thanks, ended up finding some examples
x = 6/π + 2πk is what I went with
where k is an integer
i think u mean x = pi/6 + 2pi K, k E Z
missing a set of solutions
Hey
Then take the square root of the top and bottom of the fraction and you’re done
This works for common trig functions
So this would be radical 3 over 2
has anybody here done Pure 1/2 Maths? My exam for both is in about a month
Is it possible to finish Pure 2 in a month?
can someone check if i did my homework right and help me on number 8
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what are parallel proofs?
Sure.
Proofs where you have to proof that certain lines are parallel to each other

Whats the best way to go about sketching graphs of trig functions on paper? Should I be labeling the x axis with real numbers or with π, 2π, 3π, ect?
I can't think of a way to draw a graph by hand that's meaningfully accurate
or am i over thinking this and it doesn't really matter how accurate it is lol
ah nvm, i think i get it. Textbook was doing the classic "introduce a topic and have them use it for a while before explaining an important prerequisite"
maybe draw it on a graphing paper?
could ease the accuracy by a bit
On X axis are those in π
Y axis are real numbers
trig graphs r good to draw with PIs rather than actual integers
Can someone in a basic way explain how to count 72x72?
you know about face values and place values??
72 x 72 = (70+2)^2
so use algebra then
you can also use geometry here to prove the same algebraiclly
Yeah I use graphing paper, my main issue is labeling the graph in a way that i could plot points consistently.
Like right now I have a sinewave with amp = 2, period = 2π, and phase π/3. I'm not sure how to accurately plot it because the phase is a weird division that doesnt fit neatly into the graph
I could get the interval, which is [π/3, 7π/3] and just make those the first points on the graph? then label the additional points buy the period?
This is one of those questions that makes intuative sense but the excat way they want you to word the answer is a bit tricky (at least for me), I don't know excatly how to format the answer, but I can try my best to walk you through rationalizing the shape.
Because the shape is a rhombus, you know a few things by definition. The first is that that it has two sets of parallel sides. BC=AD, and AB=DC.
Because you know which lines are parallel and equal length, you can infer other things about the shape. The triangle ABC is equal to ADC for example.
As for F, because it's the intersection of AC and BD you know it's the midpoint because the previous points prove that the shape has symmetry along those axis.
From there you should be able to see how the other statements make logical sense
There is a proof, that for an n-gon inscribed in a circle of a radius r the maximum area of that n-gon is for when it is regular, but is there a some kind of law or thesis I can call for that to not reinvent the wheel?
Can someone solve this?
soh cah toa
Don't ping helpers with no purpose, they get enough pings already.
Can someone help me with this? the goal is to find the angle ADC
Would you guys consider this a satisfactory solution for this problem?
"Find the Period and graph the function"
I've not gotten anything graded back for this section yet but need to move onto the next assignment or ill get behind, not sure if this is the correct way to present things
dang, well except from the incorrect period, would you say the format is good? lol
actually im pretty sure period for tan is just π/2
Actually you are right with the period
your x-intercepts are wrong I think
every 3π there is an x intercept
starting from π for natural numbers
plus remember to label the graph
actually im a bit of a fool and those numbers are actually supposed to be labeling the asymptotes lol, the only x intercept i labeled was 3π/2m but i think that one is broke for sure, supposed to be π/2 now that i look at it
I graphed the interval first then moved the asymptotes by the period, which i think is a valid way to do it
Not very sure, I used to draw the graph as near or accurate to the values on the axes, of course considering the amplitude and stuff. But sometimes the intervals could look large but the positions are accurate when seen from the values on the axes. In short, I'm just not too keen about it, as there's desmos, lol
ngl i have forgotten a ton about it already
I thinking that perhaps angle DAB is 45 and angle ADC is 75. Because 180-135=45 then 45+135+105=285 then 360-285=75
how did u get DAB=45?
They assumed AD//BC💀💀
welp thats a blunder
The answer is right, but this proof is incomplete, because I am unable to prove ASD is isosceles
in the first line there should be angle CBD equals CDB
thank you so much!
At your service
The morally correct way to prove <ADC is 67.5° is to construct rhombus ABCE, find <ECD = 60° and hence AE = CE = AB = BC = CD = DE. Then E is the circumcenter of ΔACD and so <ADC = <AEC/2 = 67.5°.
what implies ED is equal to EC?
CE = CD and <ECD is 60° so CDE is equilateral triangle
right, my bad
how'd u know that <ADE=7.5deg?
pretty cool diagram tho (looks advanced to me, hehe)
ah wait\
so <AEC+<DEC+<AED=360 right?
135+60+<AED=360
195+<AED=360
<AED=360-195 = 165
AED is an isosceles triangle, hence opposite angles of the congruent sides are congruent.
180-165=15
15/2 = 7.5 each
AED triangle is isosceles, and because you know the angles AEC and CED, by angle difference you know the angles of the AED triangle
yes, combined they form the full angle
yeah
wait i tihnk it was right
lmao i thought for a min that interior angles of triangles sum up to 360

there we go
when I looked at this problem the first thing that came to my mind was to brute force it with cosine theorem
pretty fun to realize
i thought firt that u have to make some alignment magic to refer to parallel line cut by transversal theorems lol
or cut the shape into smth to produce special triangles
oh there was this nice problem I recall
There is given a semicircle of radius r, to which the rectangle with the biggest area was inscribed. Show the cosine of the obtuse angle between its diagonals
could we prove that ED=EC=DC through trigonometry?
i could think of 60-30-90 triangles, but not sure how to explicitly apply it
if it is possible, it's an overkill
to prove their congruence?
we know the two sides of a triangle and the angle between them already. these sides are the same length and the angle is 60 degrees. that implies this triangle is not only isosceles, but also equilateral
which automatically proves that ED = DC
yeah, but when drawing the figure, how could one say immediately that ED=EC when they weren't stated in the problem
It cannot be done right away. It is shown by measuring the angle and the sides that make that angle
You can improve that proof
which sides are u referring to?
CE and DC. You know their lengths
but how would u already know CE=DC?
ABCE is a rhombus
like CE was just added inthe figure?
how wait right
LMAO
i see now
yeah that all made sense
i forgot that AB=EC, as a rhombuzzzz
thx btw, i could've had a bad sleep later on
Then glad I cured your potential insomnia
why cosec=1+tan
It's not?
sorry i meant by
sec^2=1+tan^2
A follow up proof to accompany sin^2 + cos^2 =1. Another identity that is used quite a bit, especially in calculus involving trigonometric functions.
When doing the side splitter, how do you find the 2 middle segments if you know all 4 integers of the outer sides?
A right rectangular container is 10 cm wide and 24 cm long and contains water to a depth of 7cm. A stone is placed in the water and the water rises 2.7 cm. Find the volume of the stone.
help pls
Volume of stone minus volume of water up to 7 cm
The problem setter thoughtfully provided you with the initial water level, which you don't strictly need, but which makes it conceptually easier just to wing it. You can directly compute the volume of the water alone, and the volume of water+stone, then subtract.
That looks like a "power of a point" problem. Have you learned about that?
Alternatively, the "intersecting secants theorem"?
You know three of the four lengths the theorem tells you are in proportion; you're asked about the fourth.
I don't know what you mean by "set it up" here.
The theorem gives you an equation between various lengths in the diagram. Write that equation down, and fill in the values you know already. There's then just one length you don't know left in the equation, and you can solve for that.
I'm not going to do your homework for you.
10 * 24 * 2.7, thats it bcz vol^m of water displaced = vol^m of stone, archimedes principle
divide it into shapes and apply your formulas
Hi, How to calculate the direction of 3D vecter
wdym by direction?
how would u use euler's identity to derive the half angle formulas?
Good morning,
Can someone explain to me how we find the two results in red, please? I can't understand the development
this is most definetely not geo/trig
Can anyone help with a part of question 2, the line of code for beta. I am not sure what angle it is calculating. I've done the line for alpha as shown.
Anyone? It's certainly easy for double (and beyond) identities, but I'm unable to think of how it could be done to derive the half angle formulas
phi_1 evaluates to zero...
we can't see the whole expression for phi_1 so we can't tell you why that happens
a = -r
but why is it dividing by zero
the thing at the end of phi_1 just adds pi
wait
desmos what
that's what happens when you divide by zero
No, that limit is undefined
dang i guess i just have no idea what im doin lmao
no, its not correct