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velvet nacelle
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oh i just realised this is study discussion… well

worthy kindle
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I am just copying and pasting my question here

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Hi guys! I just joined, I am 19 and have severe ADHD. I just got my medication today.
I didn't pay attention in school until high school and I am missing a lot of my foundations in math and English. Id like to go into a STEM field eventually but before I even go to college I want to learn everything up to high school in math and english then relearn what I struggled with in high school with the foundations I learned.
I quite literally dont even know my times tables.
I may need to ask in #math-discussion but I just made a khan academy account and it was wondering what grade level would best to start with or if I need to do anything at all. Im kinda just jumping in blind because I have been sitting around doing nothing since graduating early last year.

Sorry for the paragraph

worthy kindle
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I am starting at a 3rd grade level in khan academy since thats where I stopped paying attention in school but its just really child oriented

fleet hill
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No but I found reading Bak & Newman pretty easy

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My class used that one and then switched to Stein & Shakarchi for some topics like path homotopies

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B&N is kinda bland but I think it's straightforward to follow

sterile rapids
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to what % will i be able to cover a level maths & further maths statistics over a 2-3 month holiday if i revise 5-7 hours a day

civic wasp
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,iam

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cosmic pike
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Guys are groups just intersection of monoids and loops right?

fleet hill
gaunt ruin
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im having a blast with my classes only issue is that is a lot of work and i get extremely tired very quickly

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any tips?

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dont want to end up slacking off

normal sleet
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You probably will have a finite number of hours you can take too, just work with that and enjoy your life outsdie, its good work-life balance too

storm jasper
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Guys how do i study more? For reference i study 5 hrs a day but im rly unproductive

rocky terrace
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Bro has Tiktok as a full time job + overtime

rocky terrace
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Consistently

bright lintel
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Are you studying with tiktok in the background

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Regarding sleep, if you have friends, doing sports with them once or twice per week will help improve sleep quality
The friends part is important to not give up the sport after 3 weeks

rocky terrace
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I also struggle with using my phone too much, I use this app called ScreenZen to put softlocks and limit my screentime for specific apps that I end up using too much

storm jasper
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I sleep like from 3-6 am

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I also workout

rocky terrace
storm jasper
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Im 17… though

rocky terrace
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Especially when you're young (teenager)

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you need enough sleep

storm jasper
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Yeah

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Protein + sleeping

rocky terrace
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Get 8 hours of sleep consistent sleep every night

storm jasper
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Okay, 3-6 hrs is the range…

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I sometimes go to bed at 12 am

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And wake up at 6

rocky terrace
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tbh I don't think it matters too much when you go to sleep and wake up as long as you consistently go to sleep on the same time and get around 8 hours of sleep every night

storm jasper
rocky terrace
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But yeah delete Tiktok rn 🗿

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Imagine not doom scrolling and locking in for like 8 hours a day

storm jasper
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It was far worse awhile back

bright lintel
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You'll have so much free time you won't know what to do with it and will end up replacing it with another addiction

rocky terrace
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How did you use your phone for 34 hours in 1 day?!!?

storm jasper
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Week avg

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I eat like 70-100 grams a day

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Brooooo whyyyy

rocky terrace
storm jasper
rocky terrace
storm jasper
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50 hrs 😔

rocky terrace
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Besides pick up something else to replace Tiktok

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like reading a book for example

raven kindle
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A math book sotrue

storm jasper
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I have all my textbooks on there so

storm jasper
rocky terrace
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it won't be a 1-1 translation from time spent on tiktok to time spent studying because studying is a much more mentally taxing activity than mindlessly scrolling short form content

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but it will still help a lot

rocky terrace
storm jasper
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But im locked in, alg top, phtnam and dunamical shstems

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Um

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Oh shit yesturday was worse

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Analysis + point set

rocky terrace
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Have you done exercises from analysis and pointset?

storm jasper
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Since when was neamesis postgrad damn

rocky terrace
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Since they gave me the role

storm jasper
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Im getting withdrawl now

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@glacial bluff

fathom pelican
storm jasper
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Idk about resting tbh, i can get rid of tiktok but prob not the sleeping

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I just do hspu and plnche

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Planche

verbal stump
verbal stump
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Help😭😭

lyric iris
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guys i need some tips

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how do i avoid careless mistakes

heavy needle
normal osprey
storm jasper
tall lynx
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Hi guys. I'm currently doing Calc 3 and Numerical Methods. I also have Gemini Pro to automate different things, so I have Notebook LLM, gemini, etc. Do you recommend any of these for explaining topics I might not understand when reading the bibliography?

storm jasper
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Ai isnt that good for math explanations

tall lynx
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Okay

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Thanks for your answer.

stuck plank
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HeLLO. I have to do stupid homework and dont know what 1 plus 1 is.

storm tide
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Tedious troll is tedious. If that is all you have to contribute with, this might not be the server for you.

green terrace
rocky terrace
shell glade
storm jasper
shell glade
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as a sticker

storm jasper
storm tide
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Personally I'd say because that's rather silly as a meme. But opinions might differ on that.

lyric iris
left yacht
lyric iris
raw tinsel
green terrace
raw tinsel
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oh no i dont see ryan

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on pc

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on phone its ok

green terrace
heavy needle
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Char 1 be like

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Oh it literally mentioned characteristic 1 on the slide LMFAO

sudden dragon
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@astral lantern

astral lantern
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i've already told you something

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please go to your channel

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and check

gaunt ruin
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this is what you mean by Calculus 3?

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or you mean Analisis 1?

tall lynx
gaunt ruin
tall lynx
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No voy a poder ir, espero enterarme de lo que se decide.

gaunt ruin
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tambien esta disponible online por meet

gaunt ruin
tall lynx
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Mil gracias.

velvet escarp
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I just got a free walking pad from work! I plan on setting it up both for work and studying when I start school later this year, but im wondering has anyone studied while walking? Im not sure if its going to be difficult or not. I feel like when im working on hard problems I will often move around and think, so maybe it wont be too distracting.

storm tide
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I feel I think better when walking than sitting down...
Reading/writing would be a logistical challenge, though.

velvet escarp
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No pen and paper? Vs what else? White board and marker? I use those as well

gaunt ruin
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posiblemente no inicie el cuatrimestre por completo

green terrace
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<@&268886789983436800> users not speaking english

velvet escarp
gaunt ruin
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isnt this person likely an spammer? or is that a mistake

wheat meteor
regal canyon
regal canyon
heavy needle
gaunt ruin
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thats right

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but in my defense, he started speaking me in spanish I just went along with it

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greetings to costa rica, dandida.

true tendon
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why?

true tendon
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Sisi

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no veo el problema

spare igloo
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there is no study discussion in ba sing se

grizzled swallow
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Hi I am new to this channel I was wondering how you guys study maths effectively and what do you guys do when you get stuck on a question and also how to minimise silly mistakes in exams

green terrace
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<@&268886789983436800>

fleet hill
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There are ways to try to keep more calm and collected during the exam like doing practice problems in the exam room under exam conditions

storm tide
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<@&268886789983436800> mrbeast scam

storm jasper
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Is the ban here

tropic void
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i thinkㅤso

hoary knot
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I’m complete dogwater at math especially with analysis and algebra

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Was thinking if I should switch up my studying strategy

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^^^ trying to get around automod

primal cairn
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sorrry for the Inconvenience, mod pearly out

hoary knot
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oh my gawd bruh lmfaoo

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lowkey tho it was for real opencry

golden stump
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😭

dense viper
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greetings. i dont need help with something specific but i do have a concern of some sort. i believe this is the appropriate channel for it. i did not pay much attention to mathematics at school so my knowledge has many gaps. for example, i may know how to do a quadratic equation, and to use the quadratic formula, but i dont know what is happening behind it, with the variables and such. what should i do/studyy to get back on trackk? i wouldd appreciate a roadmap of some sort to coverr the most important gaps. thanks.

analog depot
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Get your fundamentals set, and practice

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Perhaps check other systems, like the course topics of Khan Academy for example

dense viper
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appreciate it though i did not mention it, i did not pay attention to mid-high school so i only (may) have some old bookss that covered thesee topics

hoary knot
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i feel like i need to change my study strate

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im boombing my exams blobcry

vivid reef
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Wheres the general chat

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Also who's the owner

glacial raven
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is theree a program that sieves through some high levell problem to find the holess in your math? and then brings you to thosee problems to review

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or part the fun, is figuring the holess yourself

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guesss it is blatantly obvious, if you take a quiz and get a problem wrongg then that is a hole ...

plucky temple
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Hey,is there any physics student who has a good understanding on the electric field intensity concept?

green terrace
signal bay
vivid reef
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Om

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Ok

signal bay
vivid reef
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Nope

signal bay
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Oh turn off studying

vivid reef
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Okay

signal bay
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,iamnot dying should work

queen trail
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hmmm

ripe wasp
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Hi! I'm here because, frankly, i have no specific questions. I just need help in general
I am in geometry with statistics, CP

For starters, My math teacher is a twat. we arent allowed to sit down or ask eachother questions. We must ask the teacher.
We get new seating every day. Its randomized ( except its useless because we arent allowed to talk to eachother)

I asked him for help and his exact words ( while privately in his office were) " That's not my problem. I'm teaching perfectly " .

His teaching style isn't working for anyone in the class. The highest grade on the recent trig test was a 32%.

He 'teaches' By writing what we are learning today on the board, then how to do it- but dosen't define anything. ex: he'll write SohCahToa on the board with no explanation. ( He dosen't answer questions, either )

Our weekly schedule in his class is: Monday: Learn new subject : Tuesday- Quiz. Wendsday- practice Thursday- Test Friday- busywork

There is nothing i understand. I am failing.
I am looking for any help i can get- be it already completed math with work shown, notes from someone else- little tips.

Anything helps.
Thankyou.

-# please ping me

true tendon
ripe wasp
patent valley
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Hello, I am soon graduating high school and going to study abroad. My concern is that I can understand mathematics in my native language (Indonesian) but still can't understand the mathematical terms and concepts (even basic ones) when it's in English. Is there a sort of fast paced rigorous resource for this type of situation?

dusky ether
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one thing that personally helped me a lot is actually being in this server and helping others! you get exposed to lots of english terminology here and learn how other countries teach math

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idk about any courses tbh but youtube videos also help a lot too

patent valley
patent valley
dusky ether
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i dont think it hurts but there's probably an easier way. if you know your course literature in advance I'd get the book and skim through it to find terms you don't know

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googling and translating gets you there like 99% of the time

patent valley
patent valley
dusky ether
compact seal
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Guy's I've been learning chain rule and it makes a lot of sense in why we would can't just get the derivative of the function without multiplying by something else.

I just don't understand why we need to multiply by the derivative of the inside function. It doesn't really make much sense to me.

For something like y = (x^2 +x)^2
sure we'd need to do

2(x^2 + x) (2x + 1)

but why the latter? Why does that get us the correct answer? I get we need to account for both rates of change (for let's say y between u, and u between x), yet why is the derivative used to get the answer?)

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Is there any better way to get an understand intuitively, or any resources you guys would recommend? Already checks Paul's online notes

stray notch
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Whats the best way to self study maths

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Aka ace my exams at a high school level

viscid thorn
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study in a quiet environment away from your phone with nothing but your texts and your notes in front of you for at least an hour straight; otherwise do whatever works to keep you focused

stray notch
viscid thorn
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just googling things can lead you to nice explanations, if you're only doing hs math khanacademy has nice structred learning with exercises ofc

stray notch
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For example one of the topics is trig

viscid thorn
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what curriculum?

stray notch
viscid thorn
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ah, i see. you might find the best help asking your teachers about that

stray notch
# viscid thorn what curriculum?

Algebra and equations (linear and quadratic)
• Rearranging formulas and solving for a variable
• Proportions and direct / inverse proportionality
• Percentages and interest calculations
• Linear functions (equations, graphs, slope, y‑intercept)
• Quadratic functions and parabolas (vertex, roots, interpretation)
• Plane geometry (angles, triangles, rectangles, circles)
• Pythagorean theorem in right‑angled triangles
• Basic trigonometry in right‑angled triangles (sin, cos, tan)
• Solid geometry (volume and surface area of cubes, cuboids, cylinders, pyramids, cones)
• Scale, similarity, and technical / scale drawings
• Reading and interpreting diagrams (bar charts, line graphs, pie charts, etc.)
• Data and statistics (mean, median, mode)
• Basic probability (events, outcomes, relative frequency, tree diagrams, two‑way tables)
• Multi‑step application and modelling problems

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Basic stuff

viscid thorn
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oh cool, any igcse-level or a-level text should cover this, i.e. any pearson textbook

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i've found some of the exercises on physicsmathtutor to be very good, they come in the format of test papers usually

stray notch
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Is that a website?

stray notch
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Or is that something that cannot be predicted

stray notch
viscid thorn
stray notch
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barren remnant
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Is self studying Stewarts calculus good?

junior umbra
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that's what i did lol

barren remnant
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Nice nice!

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I'll consider it once I meet the pre-requisites and can pass the knowledge tests in the early pages of the book.

storm jasper
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Just sayin

barren remnant
storm jasper
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I feel like lin alg u might have that excise

barren remnant
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Tysmmm again, that's DEFINITELY what I'll do, because I already plan on taking a course on it in college/uni and so I'd essentially be pre-learning it right now.

storm jasper
barren remnant
storm jasper
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If u keep up a pace of 10 pages a day u could finish a book in 30-50 days

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If ur consistent

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Of course shit gets hard fast

barren remnant
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That's nice! I feel like sometimes I do 5 pages a day, or even like 5 pages in a week...

storm jasper
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Like alg top and alg geo is lowkey kickin my ass

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Even with prep

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So like

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Just keep thinking

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Just leep doing exercises

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Ur gonna get better and it comes easier

barren remnant
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I really appreciate it catlove

storm jasper
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Yeah

barren remnant
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Thank you

storm jasper
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Like after i shower before bed i study for like 4-5 hrs striaght

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And usually when i wake up

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In the day i normally just bedrot though

barren remnant
storm jasper
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I think i realized that

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If u just show up and be consistent

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And focus when u need to foxus

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Aka lock in

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U can be lazy and bedrot the rest of the day

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I shouldnt be lazy

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I mean my lazy terms is usually just doing a quick workout and skincare routine

barren remnant
# storm jasper Aka lock in

Yessir!! I've been locking in on Khan Academy for the past 2 years and now I'm nearly ready for pre-calculus on it.

barren remnant
barren remnant
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idk other than that. Sometimes I do 0 minutes, sometimes even multiple hours I think

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I get busy with procrastination blobcry

storm jasper
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This is my total, and my account is hella outdated….

barren remnant
storm jasper
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Damn

barren remnant
barren remnant
storm jasper
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I was a sweat back in the day

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Am not now lmao

barren remnant
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I really wish that 8 year old me just grinded Khan Academy consistently

barren remnant
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Knowledge has no age

pure lichen
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Hi guys, I am self studying from stewarts calculus currently. I have the late transcendentals, 9th edition, metric. I am just finishing up chapter 4 on "Integrals". It has been about 11 weeks since I started.
I am fine with the pace I am going at, I enjoy the subject, and I enjoy the studying, however I realise I need to learn HOW to study from books properly.
So I would like to ask, what is the best method to study from textbooks? I have been writing notes in notebooks for each subchapter, and I have been writing questions and answers for each subchapter in other notebooks. I feel like there is a faster way to do this all without spending so much time.

barren remnant
pure lichen
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ah I think 3-5 wouldnt work in this case. I like Stewart because he has lots of excercises. If i dont fully understand the contents of a chaper, I can fix that lack of understanding by doing as many questions as needed. I read every sentence in the subchapter and write notes for explanations and theorems I consider important, I suppose I am worried that I am finding too much "important" and therefore spend too much time writing notes

storm jasper
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Idk for me specifically i did exercises until i got 4/4 3 times in a row and that was enough

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But yeah soend enough time actually understanding the theorems

pure lichen
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hmmm. I think I probably am getting overly anxious about whether I understand what I am doing or not then, most likely due to imposter syndrome due to self studying. As in, the fear of "what if im stupid and im actually understanding none of this" and doing lots of questions to ensure I do understand it. and then of course all the notes I am writing.
Do people say that flashcards can help when it comes to maths? for remembering definitions and theorems and whatnot

barren remnant
storm jasper
storm jasper
storm jasper
pure lichen
storm jasper
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Ur probably not reviewing it

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Also

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Ik its hard

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Like “why am i messing up”

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Think instead like “this is just a small step in my journey”

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<@&268886789983436800>

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Yo cloud

pure lichen
storm jasper
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Still review

storm jasper
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Remember this

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I learned deravatives like 4 yrs ago or something

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Maybe it was 5 idk

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Point is, when i reviewed it durinf like a proof for like arc tangent and stuff

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I didnt remember how to do it

pure lichen
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okay yeah true sometimes i still forget how to differentiate trig functions 😭 and i covered that like a year and a half ago (self studied a level pure just doing stewart for more rigour pre uni)

storm jasper
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Also i completely forgot usub just because i havent practices it even though one or two practice problems would’vep helped me get clarity back

storm jasper
pure lichen
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okay you got a point, I just get laser focused on what Im currently practising and its probably moren harmful than anything (although enjoyable)

storm jasper
pure lichen
pure lichen
pure lichen
storm jasper
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Uh omni hai

storm jasper
pure lichen
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what is semantic encoding ?

storm jasper
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Sort of resonate with it

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Well

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Try to apply the topic to ur life

pure lichen
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that sounds interesting. Thank you

storm jasper
dapper mango
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Can someone give me tips on how do I improve in maths im cooked

scenic shuttle
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As someone who was doing pretty badly in math before, I improved a lot through practice, but my professor is kind of making things confusing even though my method works kekw

lapis tundra
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ye its mainly ratio and proportion

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i think thats my weakness

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@ruby gorge

ruby gorge
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Yo

lapis tundra
cosmic pike
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What if the partion has elements a and b such that [A]={x belong to A| x~a}
[B]={x belongs to A|x~b}
Where [A] and [B] are unique equivalence classes

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Is this statment still true with that

tropic void
cosmic pike
tropic void
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Still works

cosmic pike
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Ok we can take [A] and [B] as equivalence classes that only contain a and b then the union of [A] and [B]
Is equal to Ai={a,b}

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Is this correct ?

heavy needle
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That was one of my first pure math exercises

weak geyser
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same

junior umbra
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fundamental theorem of equivalence relations is so useful

normal sleet
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Whats that

junior umbra
normal sleet
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Ah

rocky terrace
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probably the fact that there's a 1-1 correspondence between equivalence relations and partitions on a set

normal sleet
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I see
Never knew people gave that a name

rocky terrace
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I've never heard of it refered to as the fundamental theorem though

weak geyser
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i've heard of that before

crimson elm
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That's a theorem?

junior umbra
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it's in my group theory book lol

weak geyser
crimson elm
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I thought it was just an obvious fact

junior umbra
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it's called precisely that

normal sleet
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Its obvious but very useful at least

junior umbra
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wait not that one

normal sleet
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I can kinda see why its called a fundamental theorem

weak geyser
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yeah

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some fundamental theorems are easy

normal sleet
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Though a lot of theorems get called fundamental for some weird reason

rocky terrace
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like fundamental theorem of arithmetic

weak geyser
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like "fundamental theorem of homomorphisms"

rocky terrace
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🥀

weak geyser
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aka 1st iso thm

junior umbra
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me when i implicitly use fter to construct something

weak geyser
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1st iso is really handy

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i used it today

junior umbra
normal sleet
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At some point you stop thinking about it as you use it

weak geyser
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yeah its pretty clear once you see it

rocky terrace
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yk books should talk more about equivalence relations generated by some relation

normal sleet
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True

rocky terrace
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it comes up in intro alg top or even intro top, and I was bamboozled when I first came across it kot

weak geyser
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when discussing identification

rocky terrace
crimson elm
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First isomorphism is just saying everything is linear algebra

normal sleet
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It also lets you construct the pushout and coequaliser in the category of sets

weak geyser
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lol

normal sleet
crimson elm
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Some UA mf will say wild shit

normal sleet
left yacht
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i have never heard of that phrased as the fundamental theorem of equivalence relations

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makes sense though it's a pretty fundamental theorem disguisedimp

junior umbra
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we like implicitly using fter

left yacht
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no it was a theorem in my abstract alg book it just wasnt titled fundamental thm

weak geyser
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same

junior umbra
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in my abs alg it is fter

weak geyser
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it was the thing before they introduced maps

crimson elm
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I guess it was mentioned in my numerical analysis class. That was the only good part and from there it went downhill

junior umbra
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fter stands for "funny thing everyone reuses"

weak geyser
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it is cool how equivalence relations, surjective maps, and partitions are interchangeable

crimson elm
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tfw kernel vs cokernel

left yacht
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surjective maps define equivalence relations?

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oh shit that is true

weak geyser
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yea

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ig dont have to be surjective

left yacht
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maps themselves do yea

junior umbra
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surjective maps are equivalence relations ig

left yacht
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a \sim b if f(a) = f(b)

weak geyser
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but if you let $f: X \to X/{\sim}$ by $x\mapsto [x]$ then it does exactly what you expect

mossy shadowBOT
weak geyser
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you recover the equiv rel

junior umbra
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group quotients are a funny way to simplify an equivalence relation

crimson elm
normal sleet
junior umbra
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yeah

rocky terrace
hearty briar
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Hello, I want to ask some of you guys tips about how to improve focus

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Cuz I get wrong answers many of the times due to losing focus

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I think some of the root causes are:

  1. I won't be able to do it
  2. I fear all of this effort just to be nothing
  3. I wish I was smart just like others
  4. I wish ppl like would just applause me and finally getting approval (I fantasize Abt this and no.3 during studies from time to time)

So yeah 😢

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If I could ask for you guys tips or advice, i would definitely appreciate it! Thanks
And sorry for such long statement 🙏

red rapids
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If you enjoy yourself in the process of whatever it is you're doing, then you'll be focused no matter what.

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Unless ofc you have a medical diagnosis suggesting difficulties in doing so

hearty briar
hearty briar
red rapids
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The harsh truth is that most ppl like to find excuses like this hocus pocus stuff in order to justify their failures. Most ppl laser in on things only when they like it enough to spend time on it.

red rapids
hearty briar
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Cuz I just heard about it from some yt videos to improve focus

red rapids
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The exact mechanisms vary and there are methods to regulate activity but that's entirely dependent on the person. So there's no one size fix all solution besides doing what you like.

edgy sierra
lament heath
heavy needle
heavy needle
# hearty briar Does dopamine detox stuff also work?

Depends on what you mean, if the question is "is short form content rotting my brain?" The answer is yes, and holding yourself to a higher, less over-stimulated, standard will help.

If the question is "will stopping for X days magically fix everything and I can go back to normal life afterwards" the answer is no

red rapids
# heavy needle I wish my brain worked that way

If you really enjoy what you're doing then your brain is mostly just gonna take you around related tangents. That's not inherently a bad thing. But if your brain drifts from the subject altogether into some thing completely unrelated then you should ask yourself whether you prefer thinking about this (possibly random) unrelated stuff for self stimulation more so than a grind that is not so rewarding on the first go around.

heavy needle
storm jasper
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Well not an extreme amount but im jittery asf

heavy needle
storm jasper
heavy needle
storm jasper
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Im saying its plausible

heavy needle
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Manufactured deadlines are inherently less motivating than those externally imposed

storm jasper
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So have a little faith

storm jasper
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If its cold or something

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Go outside

heavy needle
storm jasper
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Go outside

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And when its cold out, think about your future, and what happens if you dont lock in

heavy needle
storm jasper
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That also works yeah

heavy needle
storm jasper
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Im locked in to get into harvard

heavy needle
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If I try to motivate myself with the consequences of failure, then the route I'm motivating towards must be 100% certain, or else I'll also end up demoralizing about the potential failure (of the plan)

storm jasper
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Yeah

heavy needle
storm jasper
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Or you gain more knowledge, both which is useful

heavy needle
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And I don't have problems with stressing or studying for exams, those are easy

storm jasper
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Oh right its the adhd portion

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Focusing?

heavy needle
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Like I don't even play video games for large chunks of time as often

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I tend to get distracted by road blocks

crimson elm
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Doing math as a hobby is tons of fun. I never stop learning it unless of course I'm tired or sick

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Now for exams lol it's very hard

weak geyser
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i do wonder

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like the math i learn is all for fun

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i want to learn it, but i'm not being quizzed or anything

crimson elm
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Also the thing with exams is you are doing it to get a certain grade or something

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I do enjoy the process of doing the problem sets as a preparation sure

weak geyser
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i want to go to university to study math, but i'm worried it will be totally different and my ambition will be crushed

crimson elm
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But like it also hurts me morally when I go to an exam sick or something bad happens and I do bad on it

weak geyser
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i'm worried i won't be able to hold up to the pressure of studying math for a grade

crimson elm
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it feels like I wasted time preparing for an exam which ended up being bad instead of spending my time doing something fun unrelated to exams like idk work on my thesis

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You can like literally understand nothing and still do really well on an exam

weak geyser
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i'm technically studying math for a grade rn but like calculus bc is not the same as commutative algebra

crimson elm
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<@&268886789983436800>

weak geyser
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<@&268886789983436800> ?

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thank

weak geyser
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how do exams usually compare to like

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exercises

left yacht
crimson elm
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jesus christ

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<@&268886789983436800>

left yacht
crimson elm
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where are these scammers coming from

silent tangle
left yacht
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that was my friend could you unban him thank you

weak geyser
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but i thought it's different in uni

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where you have to like produce proofs and shit

wispy zephyr
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generally they're people who were already on the server and got their accounts hacked

left yacht
left yacht
crimson elm
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For exams, most of the time you just memorize a couple of things and hope for the best

left yacht
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ive heard professors usually choose reasonable questions for the exam (i.e., not the thought-provoking exercises that would take hours of thinking to handle) which makes sense

weak geyser
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yeah like looking at the problem sets at the end of chapters and stuff

crimson elm
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For my analysis exams, we have to memorize a couple of definitions

weak geyser
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i couldnt do those in a room on an hour time limit or whatever

left yacht
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loll yeah

crimson elm
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We have to do proofs of course but the proof questions are also free if you memorize the proof questions which are going to come

weak geyser
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is it usually testing you more on your understanding of the derivation of the material or your ability to apply it

left yacht
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but doing stuff in a timed format is fundamentally different from doing math itself imoj

crimson elm
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oh yeah doing math under time constraint is stressful

weak geyser
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to do well on exams, do you need to understand how all the proofs of the chapter work

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or just the results and how to apply them

crimson elm
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It depends on the class of course. Best case scenario is all of my algebra classes

weak geyser
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i'm trying to think of an example

crimson elm
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They are fair so if you understand the material then there is no doubt you will do well

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Worst case is numerical analysis

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If you understand the material really well then it's not guaranteed you get a passing grade

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Since the exam is mostly about testing your computational abilities

weak geyser
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like in a group theory class, is it stuff like "prove that if G is a group such that X and Y, then Z must hold"

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i know it would depend on the specific class

crimson elm
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A standard question would be like

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"How many groups of order 52 are there?"

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"Given a group G and a group H. Define bla bla bla. Prove that it is a group"

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stuff like that

weak geyser
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idk if i could do that

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wait

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oh theres a 4p rule

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blegh

left yacht
weak geyser
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(this is true)

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(i don't need to contain the full knowledge of every undergrad math course in my head at all times)

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(but it's probably best to understand the general ideas and key theorems that help later on)

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(like if i forgot cayley's or first iso that would be bad)

crimson elm
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If you consider doing math in uni you will find the proof classes are more pleasant overall

weak geyser
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i think i will do math in uni

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idk how i couldn't

crimson elm
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Yeah you probably will complain about some classes like idk stats or whatever but for the most part it's fun

weak geyser
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i can't imagine not trying to learn more of this stuff

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oh @left yacht how's your group theory learning going

left yacht
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i paused it cuz im reading an analysis book rn

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will get back to it soonm

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i am at ch6 in artin rn

crimson elm
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love how everything there is just number theory

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such a good book

left yacht
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i need to reread ch2 before i get back into it i think i forgot some stuff

weak geyser
hoary marsh
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Hi guys! Do you know any places I can find that have hard lines and planes questions?

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for vectors*

green terrace
hoary marsh
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do yk any good ones?

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okay sweet thank you very much!

normal sleet
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Idk if planes and lines means linear algebra, it sounds like something out of multivariable calculus before the calculus

icy zenith
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fuuuuck now comes the actual hard stuff 😭

edgy sierra
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non-fundamental theorem of calculus

edgy sierra
normal sleet
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Depends if the planes and lines cross the origin

heavy needle
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Homie said vectors so yeah

icy zenith
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i've already reached the video of integrals. It's 5am, maybe tomorrow

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i understood limits but l'hopital rule just flew over my head really hard

frail sable
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How do I find the balance of studying and practicing?
My main goal in math is currently to compete in math olympiads, and I find myself at a dilemma:
Should I prioritize studying about new knowledge and theorems or spend most of my time solving old tests? I've been trying to find a balance, but idk how I should distribute my time.

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I can't study new theory and do problems in my mind at the same time, i'm not a math comp machine yet

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But yeah I do always keep my mind occupied with a problem, but actually trying to solve it is quite different

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But i'd get in a loop of just solving problems and not learning anything new if I just focus on that

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Keeping a problem lingering in my mind is a much smaller time commitment than actually trying to solve it with pen and paper

pallid ferry
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Hi Guys year 10 here (grade 10 in Australia) I have to do a team investigation on a topic/project do you guys have any ideas? Last year some people did like comparing ev to petrol cars and some people did a Dyson sphere. You can do nearly anything but I’d prefer something more with numbers.

subtle pollen
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gaussian integers

pallid ferry
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Okay

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Do u have like a specific topic name I could do

pallid ferry
subtle pollen
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just find some video you can understand about modular arithmetic

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and see if it interests you

pallid ferry
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I already know some

subtle pollen
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okay

pallid ferry
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But tyyy

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I’ll look into

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Lmk if u have any ideas

subtle pollen
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I have ideas 🙂

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you could try to learn the definition of a ring and then look at some examples

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a ring is some collection of things that you can add and multiply, just like the usual numbers, but they dont have to be numbers

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but you could also tell me what things in math you like and I can give you some more ideas

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there are many options

pallid ferry
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Alrightt thanks I’ll look into those first then I’ll see if I want anymore ideas

pallid ferry
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Is it alright if I dm u later on?

subtle pollen
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sure you can DM me

hexed laurel
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Perhaps diophantine equations? Here, modular arithmetic is utilized in the study of such equations

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Moreover, you would be able to build a narrative that leads to asking Fermat's last theorem in a presentation (not proving it, of course)

burnt drum
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anyone got a playlist for the whole mathematics topics from a to z
I'm trying to help my brother here

scenic shuttle
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if your brother is doing hs or early college math, you can suggest them khan academy catthumbsup

pallid ferry
# hexed laurel A ring may be a lot for a year 10 project (depending on how advanced your year i...

its supposed to be a group project for a competition and we are encouranged to get outside help off the internet and others. I'm quite engaged into number theory stuff like modulo ect since ive been participating in math olympiads and go to lectures for it. I'm quite happy to dump loads of time into this but the main thing I'm looking for is a good topic that is creative and interesting enough to perform very well. so any idea helps. Ill read over the page you linked. thanks

brazen stag
# pallid ferry its supposed to be a group project for a competition and we are encouranged to g...

Hmmm the fact that it's for a competition I think would color my advice a fair bit, as it means you want to appeal to a judge's sense of aesthetics (in math, that usually means narratives and data visualization, since mathematical elegance tends to be a bit less gripping than what your competitors may use). To this end, might I suggest combinatorial game theory? It's intuitively appealing, and there are often good pictures associated with the game states. The main downside is that you'd have to get a bit creative if you're also trying to make the case that the subject is useful or "urgent".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sprague–Grundy_theorem is fairly technical, but its examples do a decent job imo at introducing the subject as well as its first major theorem (indeed, one which is quite striking and powerful!).

pallid ferry
# brazen stag Hmmm the fact that it's for a competition I think would color my advice a fair b...

it doesnt have to be useful or 'urgent' but the site says 'MTQ dares students to think outside the box and dive into the realm of creative and critical thinking. Whether it’s investigating real-life applications, delving into the world of statistics, or unraveling the logic behind mathematical principles, MTQ encourages students to explore the endless possibilities of mathematics.' so i don't think they mind what i do. I'll read what this combinatorial game theory is, sounds interesting. Thanks for your ideas.

green terrace
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<@&268886789983436800>

twilit mason
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@soft tangle we dont allow soliciting on this server

hollow fable
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Any recommendations for studying better?

scenic shuttle
fresh hemlock
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any tips for sasmo guys?
I have sasmo coming up but the next day I have batch reshuffling exam since I'm also preparing for JEE

hallow hinge
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Is anybody there from class 10th cbse i need some tips..

wide cryptBOT
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To ask for mathematics help on this server, please open your own help channel or help thread. See #❓how-to-get-help for instructions.

fierce crypt
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but it did his job right

sharp arch
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How do you guys study for coding exams

storm tide
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Code a lot?

rocky terrace
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If it's one of those "yeah write code on a piece of paper" type ones, I won't even attend 🥀

pulsar saddle
kind chasm
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Do u guys have any good methods to overcome procrastination

kind chasm
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wdym you don’t bro

barren remnant
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I just spent a few hours studying physics, and now that I want to study math I can't because I don't have enough energy, how do you study math without energy? pandaohno

crimson elm
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I sleep

barren remnant
barren remnant
# crimson elm I sleep

Good idea, I'm trying to rush my progress towards reaching calculus by studying all of the pre-requisites, but maybe that's not the best idea now that I write it out.

brisk latch
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how can i focus more/get less distracted? whenever im in class im always just on my laptop while the teacher is explaining/giving a lecture, and ive been doing pretty bad on my tests cause of this, went from getting 90s to 60s

rigid sorrel
# kind chasm Do u guys have any good methods to overcome procrastination

make a routine and force yourself to stick with it for some time
In a few weeks you will just start automatically doing your work at that place and time (it could take longer though).
Creating a little bit of friction between the working place and distractions could also be useful.
If whats making you procrastinate is boredom, then slowly start doing more and more boring tasks till you see that its not so bad (i.e. train your boredom resistance)

kind chasm
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thank youu

rigid sorrel
rigid sorrel
brisk latch
rigid sorrel
# brisk latch my school is paperless and i dont really bring paper, and our work is online

If youre getting distracted without thinking, you could change the way you access the distractions. This breaks the automated cycle.
If youre willingly getting distracted, then you need to stop doing that. Ask yourself if the lecture or your distraction is more important. Working on your boredom resistance could also help. (just slowly do more and more boring tasks, till it doesnt feel that bad doing them)

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If your browser is what distracts you, there are extensions that let you block websites (distract me not is what I use for example)

somber ivy
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Hey guys, I am a Cambridge International A level (CIE) student, giving maths P3 and M1 this may/june. Does anyone have any tips? Particularly for M1 as I do not have physics. Any notes, channels or resources would be greatly appreciated 😄

proper rain
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Using AI to solve questions and then doing related questions by yourself is a good method for preparing yourself for exams?

proper rain
junior umbra
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not really

proper rain
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Alright

junior umbra
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i just know you shouldn't use ai (or at least lower use) because it is very usually inaccurate

proper rain
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It's pretty accurate, and it also explains everything

junior umbra
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ok sure

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if you want to believe that go ahead

proper rain
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Alright

dim sable
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hello is taking engineering mathmatics 232 & MATH 242 Introduction to Probability & statistics with university phy 2, and two major robotics courses doable? or is it better to take one of the math courses in summer? and what is engineering maths and probability and stats maths are they ez?

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and what about differential equations and linear algebra?

rocky terrace
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it depends on the content of those courses and the instructor teaching the courses

somber ivy
# proper rain Using math gpt

Relatable. Maybe at a higher level it stops working? But it works perfectly fine for me, If you're solving using past papers (which you should) then maybe try searching a solved version of your paper on youtube, maybe you'll find a channel which solves and explains past papers from whatever exam board you're giving

edgy sierra
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generosity

main trail
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I think I'mma fail alg 2.
I just can't get myself to study it anymore

heavy needle
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<@&268886789983436800>

barren remnant
rotund zodiac
# main trail I think I'mma fail alg 2. I just can't get myself to study it anymore

if you are looking for advice: take a break from studying, and while you're taking a break, brainstorm some ways to engage with the material that isn't what you are doing right now. most likely you're doing practice problems and reading textbooks - this is the way to study, yes, but try something that allows you to absorb the content without doing the same thing over and over.

e.g. make some flashcards of terms and definitions, prepare a very small talk where you discuss the proof of something in the textbook, create some mind maps linking certain conditions together (i.e. if X becomes Y with commutativity, then X -> Y and write "commutative" over the arrow). hopefully this will refresh your brain and help you make some new connections kannawave

glacial raven
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maybe ask some friends in the class to study together

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i believe in u

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don't suffer alone, probably others would benefit from studying together

delicate zinc
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does anyone know the best way to study math? my main problem is i can get all the questions right at home but on the test i forget everything and make so many dumb mistakes

storm jasper
main trail
proper rain
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And in every topic, there are 2-3 different formulas

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I know most of the stuff I learnt last year but I have forgotten how to do many of them and I have an exam in 3 months

storm jasper
stone fern
main trail
edgy sierra
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eliminating ln(x) should be priority here

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and it shouldn't be hard to see how doing so leads to a nice simplification

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also (2) is something you can show via mean value theorem

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oh

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"except at finitely many points"

edgy river
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Guys i just passed my 12th n am looking into getting math n computing, can anyone pls tell me the curriculum, courses, n potential jobs i can get from from this branch?

strong oar
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can someone doing a math degree or math at a university level answer a question for me? its about study techniques and what makes sense in terms of how to learn.

i got recommended a book about logic in the physics discord, because i want to ease my way up into graduate level mathematics. i was always bad at math, both in HS and during uni, but im starting to realize why. i honestly cant think of whyyyy it would be harder, as seem to not be lacking the structured thinking skills (i know how to code in c++ for example). one reason might be that i have bad anxiety arround math.

so im trying to do the excercises in this book and i get to this (bare in mind i know what set builder notation is):

We are going to write the following sets in set builder notation.
...
(f) F = {2, 3, 4, 6, 8, 9, 12, 16, 18, 24, 27, 32, 36, . . .}.

I know the solution by now, because I peeked. But what am I supposed to do when staring a problem like this? fuck around and find out? trial and error?

i feel like if this had been in a real class, id have lost my mind because the answer wasn't obvious and there would have been pressure to perform immediately. what do people do here when tackling problems like these?

red rapids
strong oar
red rapids
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Also, the set builder notation works in a way where multiple possible answers are acceptable.

strong oar
red rapids
strong oar
# red rapids Entirely? You can definitely find some sub-patterns at the very least.

yes. i did. im just wondering: how long am i supposed to start at stuff like this? what is a reasonable timeframe here and what am i allowed to do in the meantime? like, i think i would have eventually figured out this regards prime factorization, but assuming i need to solve this as part of homework, is it okay to get anxiety, am i supposed to picture something?

red rapids
strong oar
red rapids
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At times it would be obvious enough to write in seconds. Other times you may confuse yourself for hours.

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But you'll get used to it in a short period of time.

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Practicing similar problems with a mix of some different things is often what helps in identifying patterns quickly.

strong oar
red rapids
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Some may need more practice than others.

red rapids
strong oar
strong oar
whole wing
# strong oar to me it isnt :/ at first it just looked like a random number sequence.

If it's any reassurance, I have a masters in theoretical physics and a bit more than a bachelors in math, and it took me a while to figure out that it's about prime factorisation. Pattern finding skills are obviously important, but they're orthogonal to at least learning most of math. Not to mention that here it's just a set pulled out of a hat with zero context and hence zero intuition about the kinds of patterns the author had in mind

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(Essentially I started by spotting these were multiples of 2 and 3, but then after the first few you get big jumps. And then it took some trial and error and an aha moment to figure out what's going on)

red rapids
whole wing
red rapids
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But yeah, not the easiest thing to spot. I admit I've drilled such stuff enough as a child to have a good intuition but every now and then there's a stumper even for me which takes a while.

whole wing
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As a rule of thumb, if you've just been staring at the problem for 10 minutes, you should move on

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Of course, the goal is to try to reduce the "just staring"

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Draw pictures, dry different approaches, etc. Learn how to approach a problem as systematically as possible, which include remembering insights and realisations from previous problems

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There's an interesting little book by Pólya called How to Solve It which might give you some inspiration

strong oar
strong oar
olive geode
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I still have no idea what the sequence is... Seems like a really crappy problem, I don't know what guessing sequences has to do with math

rotund nebula
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I am looking for tips on how to do well on an accuplacer math test. Does anyone know what might be on that?

whole wing
storm jasper
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Do problems related to that basically

rotund nebula
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i figured its just the practice tests I have seem to easy to be entry level for engineering

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its geometry and algebra 2 at max 98% of the time

storm jasper
rotund nebula
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i was just wondering if someone knows what might actually be on it that isn't taught in highschool

storm jasper
rotund nebula
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yeah

proper rain
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I lost motivation and i have exam in 3-2 month

crimson elm
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many such cases

lean temple
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how do you guys organize all of your notes, guessing by chapter, do you do recall and review old notes / concepts / vocab stuff?

gloomy ice
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hey guys

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I feel like I'm losing my love for maths & just forcefully studying MO.I don't feel enough curiosity for maths IDK why

storm tide
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MO = MathOverflow?

gloomy ice
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MO=Math Olympiad

storm tide
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Perhaps olympiad math is just not the kind of math that interests you? That's okay, it's not a requirement for anything to be thrilled by that specific kind of abstract gotcha problems.

gloomy ice
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maybe main reason is that I'm studying Number theory, but I can't get ideas to prove things. I can solve questions. but struggling with proofs

storm tide
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Perhaps just take a break, find something else to put your mind to for a while. Competitive math is supposed to be a fun way to engage your math interest, it it isn't fun for you to crack a problem, it will be counterproductive to force yourself to keep doing it.

toxic shard
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can someone help me study this

viral osprey
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The help channels can be good for posting questions if you're stuck and need a hint.

toxic shard
viral osprey
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Well the general way to practice math is by doing exercises.

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Do you have a textbook?

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Most people get exercises to practice out of their textbook.

toxic shard
viral osprey
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If this is for a class, then do you have access to old homeworks you can redo?

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If so, redoing old homework can be helpful.

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I usually just try to do a ton of exercises, work through practice exams, redo old homework and rewrite my notes.

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Usually that's enough for me to be able to pass exams and stuff

toxic shard
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alright

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thx

plush hedge
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what's the best way to get feedback on my proof writing
whenever possible, i would prefer being able to evaluate my own proof rather than getting feedback from someone else

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so maybe a list of things to look out for would be nice

short lantern
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Is anyone here self studying a college level intro to physics course? I tried joining the physics server but it requires me to verify my phone, and discord isn't allowing me to do that.

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Also, I used to have a really good book for reviewing algebraic concepts but I forget the name of it. I may use ALEKS instead in the meantime, but if anyone has algebra book recommendations, please send them my way.

low viper
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Hello! So, I’m currently self studying maths, and there are proofs which are confusing. Should I try to understand until I get it or take a break and revisit later?

short lantern
low viper
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Thank you so much!

short lantern
# low viper Thank you so much!

No problem! Often with progress in math in the beginning, knowing what you don't know is as important as what you do know. You have to know what you don't know, in order to figure out what's not clicking in a problem.

rotund zodiac
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but like, generally speaking, you're aiming for logical correctness, the steps in a good order (make an argument when you need to make it, not 5 years before), something that is simple enough to be understood by your peers. i'm also going to say good style and latex; if you have a big chain of equations in the middle of your paragraph, that's really hard to read vs. putting each one on a new line with align*

rotund zodiac
smoky isle
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Hey, I don't have a math problem based question but rather something else. It's that whenever I'm solving at home even time bound, I'm able yo solve the question correctly even though it's complex which using calculus and different theorems. But when I'm doing a similar problem in the exam, I really don't know what's wrong but I never seem to get a single question right. My process is correct but I'm never able to reach the expected answer.

I'm really stuck on this and this has been my weak Ness for years now. Even in college(1st year) it's the same. The checking is even stricter so they cut half of the marks that I could get. If it's a 5 marker, I only get 2.5 cus I deviated from the xpected answer.

rotund zodiac
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you could try simulating the exam environment so you get more comfortable with it. same time of day, similar lighting, on pen/paper, no other objects in front of you, etc.
and the idea is you trick your brain into expecting the exam environment

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also, are you doing practice exams at home, or are you picking problems out of a certain chapter? because if you are on the "derivatives" chapter then you know the question is related to derivatives in some way, but on the exam there is no such hint

smoky isle
rotund zodiac
smoky isle
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Alright, I'll try my best.

BTW, since GPA is not as important as it used to be, how much importance should I give to practicing and solving problems instead of upskilling in things that actually matter

harsh ermine
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Anyone here experienced with Feynman's Technique?

I'm pretty new to it and when I try to use it on a new topic I'm studying, I constantly getting stuck on the explaining stage, because I keep trying to find a way to explain a concept that seem to link to another concept that I don't know and so I study that thing as well which lead to me struggling to explain it clearly as well and it just keep going deeper and deeper into a rabbit hole.
So am I doing it right? to try to understand thing deeply as I learn or should I try to understand it fully first then try it to see if there's a gap in the knowledge.

And maybe it cause I'm really new to this technique so I don't quite grasp it, but I find it taking very long time to try to explain thing in my own language and then trying to simplify it further take even longer, sometime it take even longer than to study it in the first place.
Is this a type of thing that I would just get better overtime and getting faster at?

arctic blaze
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Good morning/good afternoon everyone, could someone help me with statistics? I'm in the 4th year of secondary school.

edgy sierra
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a lot

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if you apply it to an integral while looking at the solutions, at least apply it to the function's general form

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(2) will make you more familiar with similar integrals

harsh ermine
edgy sierra
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oh

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no clue

harsh ermine
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🫡

rotund zodiac
# harsh ermine Anyone here experienced with Feynman's Technique? I'm pretty new to it and whe...

from a cursory read, that kind of seems like the point no? you start explaining it, then identify problem areas and refine your understanding of said problem areas. it kind of sounds like you need to solidify some underlying concepts before moving up

learning how to communicate math is a skill that takes time to develop and can be very hard at first, so practice will really help with that. try to create some "notes" for your presentation at least at first

gaunt ruin
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mathematics is tough

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i am doing first year of mathematics bachelor and I am getting thrown so many exercises at my face

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prove this prove that

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not even simple stuff at least for me its complicated

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i feel like very tired after a couple hours of study

floral musk
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what do you guys do when you are reading a book with no exercises

outer rapids
floral musk
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differential geometry

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kobayashi and nomizu

outer rapids
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pick a concrete example and play around with it

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every time you get a theorem run it through your example and see if you can figure out what is going on

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another good exercise is if you have a theorem, try and figure out which theorem assumptions are necessary and why

muted steppe
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Oh no, I'm stuck

pliant python
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Is it normal that I make errors in calculations?
How do you guys concentrate?blobcry

edgy sierra
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yes

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concentrating on a small object helps from time-to-time

zealous hornet
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Would anyone have any advice for me. I am currently going through book of proofs, and I have found the first two chapters fairly intuitive. However, I have been struggling a lot with the combinatorics sections. I have done the topics in combinatorics before, however on a more superficial level. I have had to get help on probably 1/2 of the questions in this chapter, some of which I had no idea where to start. What should I do? Should I press on with the book and then circle back to the chapter to reinforce it another time?
Never really found combinatorics intuitive the first round of doing it either, I guess the only positive I have atm is that I understand it more than I previously did.

storm jasper
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And think of the rules ig idk

grave valley
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up to u and what u want out of reading the book. combo is one of those things u just have to work with a lot until u internalize it

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i mean everything is like that to some degree but

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theres not a lot of analogy u can exploit when learning combo like u can with other stuff

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just gotta learn how to count

proper rain
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In the exam, there will be 100 topics

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Does someone have any studying methods

viral osprey
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In the latter case I would say getting help is fine. Just make sure to write up a very clean proof after the fact that you fully understand.

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Obviously you should not immediately seek out help if you get stuck. Part of transitioning to advanced math is learning to cope with being stuck and figuring out ways to push forward anyway

zealous hornet
# viral osprey Are you getting stuck because you do not understand basic proof techniques or ar...

I haven't hit the proofs chapters yet, nor the combinatorial proof section in this chapter. I do feel like I missed some tricks or key ideas for a question to answer it. For example this question, I first looked at it and I was confused with what to do. However, I now know that you rewrite 9^n as (10-1)^n and then use the binomial theorem, which looking back it pretty easy to do and now feels logical. I think there may be some areas which I could use going over again, but I feel some of the questions require sort of not so obvious techniques to solve them.

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# zealous hornet I haven't hit the proofs chapters yet, nor the combinatorial proof section in th...

I think in many cases what can cause a kind of lockup here is if you're so purist that you look only at "Use the binomial theorem to show 9^n =" and expect there to be a systematic procedure that will lead you to discover the formula at the end of the problem statement from scratch.
However, you actually have all the information in the problem statement. Some of the psychological barrier is simply to convince oneself that it is not "cheating" to start with the sum on the RHS and try to pattern-match that to the conclusion of the binomial theorem.

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(This is related to a common syndrome where students internalize the "=" symbol as meaning there is some kind of left-to-right process going on, rather than just an assertion that the two sides, each separately, evaluate to the same result).

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# zealous hornet I haven't hit the proofs chapters yet, nor the combinatorial proof section in th...

A lot of tricks are really obvious in retrospect but really not obvious beforehand. In this case you've discovered that you weren't using all the information you had from what it sounds like. That's something to work on for sure. But it's not really saying much about whether or not you can prove things or solve problems in general. Just that in this case you found a blind spot you could have exploited for this particular problem. So, file it away as something to consider next time you're stuck on something lol.

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# zealous hornet Yeah, I think that is an issue I have. Is this something which will just get bet...

To a large extent it is "just" a matter of unlearning a skewed impression of what math is that school education unfortunately tends to produce.
In school, unless you have extremely good teachers, you see only problems that are so easy that they can be solved by knowing the right procedure: Start at the problem, know the right steps and carry them out correctly, and you will arrive at the right answer.
University math is more about coming up with the procedures in the first place, or finding proofs where there's not even a procedure in sight when you're done. This can be quite disorienting, and many students a year or two to become comfortable with it.

zealous hornet
# storm tide To a large extent it is "just" a matter of _unlearning_ a skewed impression of _...

I am currently doing a degree in physics, but I am dropping out at the end of the year. I am currently self-learning all of this, and I think the mathematics we do in physics has warped my reality of what actual mathematics is and what it aims to do. Like the maths we get taught is all about using a method or tool to do x or y in physics, and it feels very procedural. It also feels illegal lol, the amount of times we have been told you can just assume we can do something or something is true in mathematics is crazy.

proper rain
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Is khan academy good for studying

rocky terrace
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yeah

fleet hill
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yea it's great

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Hi guys! This isn't a question on a specific problem, rather i'm looking for advice on how to prepare to take my first putnam as an incoming undergraduate freshman! I'm super interested in math as a subject and just finished taking Calc BC (which isn't very impressive compared to what's coming im sure) but I wanted to get a start on studying super early and maybe try to get at least like 2 points on the whole thing haha. Are there any courses or books/textbooks you guys might recommend/know of. i know this is super broad so any help really is appreciated!Hi guys! This isn't a question on a specific problem, rather i'm looking for advice on how to prepare to take my first putnam as an incoming undergraduate freshman! I'm super interested in math as a subject and just finished taking Calc BC (which isn't very impressive compared to what's coming im sure) but I wanted to get a start on studying super early and maybe try to get at least like 2 points on the whole thing haha. Are there any courses or books/textbooks you guys might recommend/know of. i know this is super broad so any help really is appreciated!

raven kindle
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It's actually not easy at all to get a nonzero score at all if you don't have any background; you definitely can try though if you have a day to spare! and prep would be good general prep for math undergrad anyway

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Topics range between multivariable/vector calculus, linear algebra, abstract algebra, number theory, geometry

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Quite a step up from calc 2 but maybe you can pick up the basics on a few of those topics over the summer

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Familiarize yourself with proof-writing too because all solutions are in the form of proofs

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which is basically what math is all about

storm sandal
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can anyone workout real numbers

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help e

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class 10th cbse boards

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chapter 1

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is anyon even online?

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hlo

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elfin fjord
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I have to be good im exacts, bc i am so bad in math btw, i dind’t remind the school subjects. How to like exacts and be good on this?

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glacial raven
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I'm using anki to do some cloze deletions on definitions and theorems. my biggest difficulty is that I have low energy and don't feel like doing the problems

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a while ago I used anki to schedule problems but that was misguided. I learned quite a bit but it consumed me

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any tricks to psyche yourself to do problems? maybe put on a 'study' outfit idk hahah. Maybe wear a wizard hat

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guess it is pretty simple:
Step 1 Turn off wifi access
Step 2 Open book to problem pages
Step 3 Work on problems and refer to book when struggling

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I think it helps to surround yourself with others that are studying ...

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your brain will be like, oh I am the only one not studying and then start conforming to their way

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but then I would fail the classes

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it is true, what I liked studying I got the highest marks and had no effort in doing problems. I guess the more aligned advice is to try to learn to appreciate the problems / studying for things you aren't interested in - make it interesting in some manner so that you can stomach it.

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Yeah 👍 this 📚

crude siren
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guys how do i start a study routine im so fuhed up i come home and i doom scroll on tiktok n shi and like i have a 51% in pre-ib math grade 10 rn

icy basin
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Hello

crude siren
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and i have to do IB next year helpp

icy basin
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Can some help me plan my freshman year

icy basin
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ur going places

icy basin
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Thx

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Ur nice to

glacial raven
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uninstall the apps that you waste time on. start monitoring and setting goals for only 30 minutes of screen time etc

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find friends to study with

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find the smartest person that can tolerate you and study with them

brazen mist
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start with uninstalling discord

glacial raven
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i mean discord is nothing compared to tik tok as far as i can tell. haven't used tik tok

brazen mist
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i waste more time on discord

glacial raven
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another good tip is to start working for only 2 minutes and then hopefully by the end of the 2 minute syou can push through and keep going

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so maybe just set the small goal of 'work for 2 minutes on math' every day and then see how long you can do it, keep track of records etc. make it a game

brazen mist
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yeah, i agree with that

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just start working

icy basin
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Oh wrong thing

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Nvm

icy basin
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consistency is also more important than all nighters / long study sessions

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(for the long term)

icy basin
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Thats some james clearence advices

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Sigma

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ohio

icy basin
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Btw can u help me to plan my freshman year

glacial raven
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no

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Well, what do you mean? like pick classes?

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also are you in college or high school

icy basin
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Hschool

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Smh like that like picking classes how should i like understand or take the foundation like how does the system worm

glacial raven
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it depends from school to school. My general advice is to study the foundations seriously and make friends to study with in your classes

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As for what classes to pick, at least for me, when I went to high school they basically picked them for me aside from some things like music class

icy basin
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I can tell about passions

haughty forum
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@icy basin

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u on?...

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@glacial raven

junior umbra
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pls dont ping other people

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just wait for someone to come

green terrace
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junior umbra
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i mean

haughty forum
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i ddint wanna cause problems

junior umbra
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isn't that type of behavior unacceptable anywhere

haughty forum
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and as far as my knowledge i didnt wanna try to cause any disturbances

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just wanted to get some algebra...

glacial raven
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you need me?

junior umbra
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glacial raven
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whatever, what do you need? ...

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junior umbra
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ok thumb_rat

haughty forum
junior umbra
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abstract algebra?

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junior umbra
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oh linear algebra

haughty forum
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and axiomatic sir

junior umbra
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i suck at the rigorous version so i'm not qualified to speak about it

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some field theory

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about it

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and lmk any other things which i might break rules in..

green terrace
viscid thorn
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red pill/blue pill LADR vs LADW

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main trail
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I think I'm taking *measure and integration) and metric spaces at the same time next sem, is that a bad idea?

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I will also have LA2 and ODE next sem

rocky terrace
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Bad idea in what way?

main trail
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There's not much intersection between measure theory and metric spaces

main trail
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Measure is a graduate course, which is my only worry

rocky terrace
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All you need is single variable real analysis to learn measure theory

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If you are good with that, then you can handle measure theory

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it also depends on the lecturer

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So it'd be better to ask the people who have taken these courses in the past, or you can also talk with the profs who will be taking the courses

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For a)

main trail
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fair

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thanks

glacial raven
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I think I know the answer is just do more every day, but any tips on how to study more? I get tired after like half an hour

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I used to be able to play computer games for like 10 hours as a child. If only I could put that focus towards studying math... I think I am onto something

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but now I am unable to play computer games for 10 hours, it is tiring just like studying math is ah ...

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maybe I am missing out on the social aspect of studying? if I had peers in a class I might feel more connected and that learning together would keep the motivation up

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Also, I have no authority over myself to set hard deadlines, I think it is a lot of executive functioning that I have not been training ... interesting

rotund zodiac
icy basin
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Guys

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Can someone help me

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idk like 7 hours

rocky terrace
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Not bad. Is it consistent?

glacial raven
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yes

rocky terrace
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That's good

glacial raven
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diet is fine, exercise could use improvement, I take walks but don't do much more than that

rocky terrace
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What math are you studying now?

glacial raven
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discrete math / proofs

glacial raven
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my brain is like 'stop doing this' 'do something else'

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'enough of this'

rocky terrace
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When you are...reading exposition? or solving problems/doing proofs?

glacial raven
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Yeah in total I don't think I study more than 30 minutes

rocky terrace
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Well it's only natural to get some resistance when you're doing something new and out of your comfort zone

glacial raven
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so I have very little endurance for solving the problems, and reading the exposition

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right that is why I figure it is best to just try to poke more and more every day

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but every day it is learning new things haha

rocky terrace
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I used to as well, then I ended up overcompensating for it by working on a single exercise from an undergraduate book for days and even more than a week 🥀 which was unideal

glacial raven
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ah well I believe in u

frosty gate
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does somebody too ever just feel this, like u cant get urself to do things because of stress, like u try sitting down to study, plan ur day, but its just after 1 or 2 days the system feels toooo exhausting to follow? Are there any better study systems u can make in this case? (besides to do lists ,calendars, etc etc)

winged crow
vital laurel
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like, i tell myself. "seriously its only 10 minutes of studying a day cmon just open the book"

storm jasper
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Hi

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icy basin
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You should also make studying feel rewarding and dont study to proof urself to others make understanding hard rewarding maybe give urself a gift after u finish etc