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I thought 4 choose 3 would work (cause then you would have 1 of each color and you have to choose 3)
but that was wrong so idk what to do now
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ping after 15 minutes bro
sorry yoda
it could be any of the four colors
4 choose 1
yes
now that we have chosen a colour
we need to choose 2 numbers
how would we do that
can you specify what type of 2 numbers you are talking about
like for complementary counting or what
oh nvm
misunderstood it mb
from the colour we have chosen we need to choose 2 numbers
7 choose 2
correct
now choose a different colour from the remaining colours
how would u do that
3 choose 1
and now we have one card remaining to choose
can u tell how would we do that
also is this an ongoing test?
no
okay 👍
^
do we multiply them
we will do that at the end yes
but we have one step remaining
we have covered posibilities for the first 2 cards of same colour
and we have chosen the colour of the last card
but now it can be any number
how do we choose it
7 choose 1
I'll do this by a different method and see if I get the same answer
so 4 times 7 choose 2 times 3 times 7
uh
i cant use the * symbol when writing numbers for some reason
no
Discord uses Markdown for formatting, and * is formatting for italics. If you want to use the symbol, you need to use a \ before it
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would I be wrong in saying this has no eigenvalues or eigenvectors
Did you prove it
I was able to arrive at a contradiction \lambda x_1 = x_1 \implies \lambda =1; \lambda x_2 = 2x_2 \implies \lambda =2 and so on
why not x_1 = 0?
though now that I think of it, this means the eigenvectors can only have one non-zero entry is what this means
yea
got it
so what do you think the eigenvalues are then
1,2,\dots n
the subsapces will be lines in F^n
cool
thanks
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i guess n is some fixed positive integer?
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I see so what will be the approach?
Takin log?
Yes
Is the answer 1/n ?
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My guess is
Consider u = 1/x
Do ln of the entire thing next
Can define f(u) = ln(sum from k=0 to k=n k^x)
Then it should be definition of derivative?
Not sure tho
Is this from the integration chapter thingy where you take r/n as x and 1/n as dx? Or am i wrong
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Ti
,rccw
,w -8000 -(800030.035) + 8000(1.035)^3
How did u get that?
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i dont know much finical math
will i get this formula in test
Do u know
I think i get finical formulas
Formula for each form of interests
But can u show me the formula
U can google it
k
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😮
COMPOUND INTEREST
I LOVE COMPOUND INTEREST!
Work out the Compound interest first
And then work out the simple interest
And subtract them from each other to get th Ans
What is the principal value?
I did this Shi last term
The initial amount you deposit
So for example
I wanna deposit $800 to the bank
And they will give me interest for trusting the bank
It’s an easy way to gain money while saving money.
oh yeah i mixed that up with A
so lemme try it
using COMPOUND interest formula
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wait whats n?
@craggy grotto
would it just be 1
$8000(1+3.5/1)^1^3$
$8000(1+\frac{3.5}{1})^1^3$
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im not sure have i?
$A=8000+8000\times0.035\times3$
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=8869.743
=8840
difference=
29.743
Seems like i have
,w $A=8000+8000\times0.035\times3$
,w $8000(1+\frac{0.035}{1})^1^\times^3$
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could someone explain the conclusion ( highlighted ) here
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answer is 27 years
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How is it 9 pi
what would radius of circle be?
ye just noticed
Are you able to solve the question now?
its not my question
Yeah like how would you even justify 6 as the radius
It's not my paper lol
I googled ts
you could
but that later
now see here
diameter of circle and side of square have anything in common?
Btw diameter is a line that passes through the center of the circle and touches the circumference of the circle twice right
yep
longest line which can be made inside a circle
notice anything?
need a hint?
align the diameter with the side of the square
I mean ik that if u square 2 sides of a square and add them you get the diagonal of the circle
that for when its the square on the inside
this time its the circle on the inside
wait a min lemme make the diagram
What why?
youll see once u see diagram
now you see
see how the side of square and diameter look same same
Ts was Soo easy 😭 and obvious
Tyy
this when it the square on the inside
the opposite corners of the square make diameter
but lets go back to this
I solved it
yep
for questions like this first make the diagram then attempt
even is its a rough diagram it make this hella easier
Real
you got any more doubt?
Nahhh
I didn't know it's gonna be this fast tbh
I thought if I create a post
Then id have to wait for hours 😭
That's why I've never done ts
it dpends
i saw so i answer quickly
but for question which arnt collage level it should take like 10 mins max
oh yea @dire stag after your question done you type ".close"
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I'm so confused, what did I do wrong here for part c
You did not evaluate the value of the exponential integral at t=0, it's not zero
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Huh wdym
What's e^(-kt) evaluated at t=0?
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Square root of 1/(1-x)^2
|1/(1-x)|
no
its 1/|1-x|
u dont ned in numerator
But given answer is b
and?
putting it around the whole expression isnt wrong
well wlog everything is always positive in india
I didnt say its wrong
I said u dont need it
Wlog?
without loss of generality
Which option will be correct
d
but well i've seen it often enough for these questions that people just ignore that things could be zero or negative
its not like this sum even converges always
You meant b is correct
tbh the actual exams specify all the details and don't leave anything open to interpretation or they give the question as bonus to everyone
agp
ITS
AGP
so yeh
b is correct
not d
@molten bay u know how to do it
AGP problems
what
?
its a series of both ap and gp
we all know what it is
i got b as answer
that doesnt mean you can just ignore those details
I know AGP but we can do it directly it is just derivative of series (1-x)^-1
if sum tends to infinity
(well thats how the agp formula is derived)
and therefore because x was unspecified the answer is d
is this given in a test
wel at least we dont have to worry about the expression being negative
its either positive or infinity
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how do you do this sat problem I’m really confused
This is a test?
kind of it’s a psat
Is it going on
no it ended
I can show u what I did
so I put it in Desmos when I was taking the exam and I found the two points it intersected w the line x
Which are?
sry I’m opening desmos again
yes!
Divide the quadratic by 3
Nooooo
Also were you allowed to use desmos during test?
Oh I see
I didn't know that
Anyways
Now you understand it could've been solved in a much easier way
I didn't
yes
On what
yeah
So transpose 5 to the right side
Uh okay forgrt that add 5 to both sides
Yea
oh okay
So x^2 - 6x = 5
so now I would do x(x-6)?
oh
Why would you do it
are u sure
You've got the answer now
im trying to find X right 😭
No aren't you trhna find what is x^2 - 6x
OHHHH
I thought I was supposed to find X and then do that
sorry tysm!!!
can I ask u another question
Sure
you can use a cas calculator
well u could
probably not in august
what is that
well the graphing calculators
ohhh so like desmos
what’s desmos regression
desmos is a numerical calculator of sorts
cas gives you an exact answer
oh so
finding the best fit exponential given that it passes through those two points
I forget but I can try again
It js said I was wrong
what do those letters mean
and how did u write those equations
sorry I’ve never seen this before
i defined a new function g(x) = f(x) - 15
then the next line is essentially telling desmos to "solve a system of equations" (not really but that's the case on the SAT)
-
g(0) = -99/7 (given in the question)
-
ab = 65/7
help me
how to
g(x) passes through (0,-99/7)
it's given in the second sentence
yes but like how did they end up together if that makes sense
im sorry
maybe u should learn how to work with regressions first
g(0) = -99/7
so they take the first place in each list
oh okay do u have any recommendations to how to learn
[input list] ~ [output list]
ohh okay
hmm good question
how did u know the input is like g(0)
what else would you put?
Do you agree that we know these two things:
- g(0) = -99/7
- ab = 65/7
f(0) - 15 = -99/7
that's what sentence 2 says
yes
ohhh

so I could technically use any letter
why is it g?
sorry
is that like needed for desmos
ohhh
yes sorry that makes sense!
I think I js need to learn regressions
do u have any suggestions for where to learn this
I mean you can certainly do the math
But a lot of people don't actually know the math
and still get 750ish with desmos lol
I mean it's not a substitute for not learning the math
U should still learn it
But yeah
yeah 😭
If your goal is like a 700 then maybe not that much
can I show u what I got
for what?
the psat
Did you take a ptest?
what’s test
ptest = practice test
ohhh yes
U should find your goal score first 😭
What are you the weakest at?
oh 😭
no
everything is below precalc
or precalc at best
first few chapters of precalc
even without precalc u should be able to get 700+
okay 😭
what should I do if I want to get a 700
I thought I was pretty good at algebra ngl
when's your exam?
when do u recommend
Okay show the split
I mean what did you get on your practice test
That's pretty good
really 😭😭😭
I mean your english score is really high
and if this is your score without prep
then it's pretty good
Wait, have you taken an official practice test?
Like the one offered by collegeboard?
It's not from bluebook tho, is it?
how do I do that
It's free
okay!
Make an account
and then search for practice test
Take practice test 4 or something
ohhh okay tyty!!
The math is a bit easier than the real deal
but it's still an official source
so it's the best one out there
it'll give you a good baseline of where you're truly at
Sure, gl
Yes
Not really 😭
But yeah you should probably do a bunch of questions with regression
There's a whole questionbank
okay 😭😭😭
So you could start with those
what’s a question bank
Then there's bluebook+
a place where you find sat questions (official ones)
OnePrep is your ultimate Free Digital SAT question bank, featuring thousands of curated questions. Enhance your learning experience with comprehensive practice materials and boost your exam readiness today!
is that legal
the question bank? Yes
okay tyty !!!!!
bluebook? yes
thank u!!
bluebook+? maybe not lol cuz those are past tests
so can I js like memorize these
No
oh okay 😭😭😭
They're practice questions issued by collegeboard
But since they're the test makers
It's going to be of a higher quality than something you'd find in third party resources
Mhmm gl


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I'm writing some notes from a book. In these notes, I'm trying to create an anti-example for a given definition.
I'm wondering if what I wrote is a correct way to noting what I'm trying to say.
In the underlined part, I'm trying to say something like "3 is not a divisor for 7 because there is no integer that multiplies 3 to give 7".
Want to make sure that notation isn't busted.
b3 is not really nice to read
b⋅3 is better
but everything else looks okay
Also doesn't one usually say “non-example”? Though am not a native English speaker
yeah, though I personally not amorous of that term.
Thanks for the feedback.
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why does the arrangement of keys on a keychain stay t he same whhen its flipped over
also why is it mutiplied by two
why would it be any different
flipping a keychain over doesn’t affect the order of the keys
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(check the last paragraph) reflection matters for a circle then shouldnt it also matter for a keychain which essentially has the same diagram?
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I suppose it is because thinking about a keychain as a 3d object, when the keychain is flipped upside down you consider the perspectives of the keys to be flipped as well. Just a guess.
so the keys arent a b and c?
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Good thing helpers ping doesn't do anything
wait actually?
no
i am waiting since 45 minutes smh
i keep getting pinged here
You can remove your helpers role
all the helpers keep getting pinged here
nah i’m fine w it
but let me see if i could help
okay so i’m not too good at this rn
but if i had to assume it’s because a circle has no sides
and because it had no sides and all the points are spread across recently
evenly*
spinning it doesn’t change the angles or distance between the points
yea i get the rotations part
i dont understand reflections
let me see
the reflection of the points on a circle gives a different arrangement but when it is the keys of a keychain the arrangement does not chaange
the keys of a keychain aren’t circled
circles
so
here’s how the reflections work
so you know rotating doesn’t change the order they are in
at it’s a b c
no matter the way it’s spun
however when you are reflecting something the points change
say
a
b c
spin it
b
a c
the numbers next to a are the same (along with the other points)
now we will reflect it
a
b c
turns to
a
c b
the order of the letters are different than before
does that make sense
shouldnt we get bca after spinning?
yea
okay
so why do circle have a different arrangement when they are flipped and keychains dont when they are essentially the same thing?
.?
@narrow edge Has your question been resolved?
so sorry
honstly
i have no idea
but if i had to assume
it’s because a circle is a circle
and keychains if you flip them look different
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I want to understand this root process
Synthetic division
By observing the equation you can clearly see that 1 is one of its zeroes
That means x-1 is a factor of it
Synthetic division is essentially a short hand method of dividing the original expression by this factor
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Could someone help me solve this integral step by step? The solution on symbolab is super messy and hard to grasp
can we see what symbolab is suggesting to do
Do you want me to like type it out or screenshots
screenshots are better
So the first step here of u substitution isn't super clear
U = r^{1/4}?
Du = (1/4) U^(-3/4)
Ok let's try that
u = r^(1/4)
r=u^4
dr = 4u^3
Yeah that's clear now
$$\int\frac1{r^{\frac14}(r+1)}dr$$
Sherif Player
dr = 4u^3 du btw
let's not drop pieces of notation
but it looks like yeah that's the only way forward regardless
and after that it's going to be quite ugly
$$\int\frac1{u(u^4+1)}4u^3du$$
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With no explanation at all, just the solution
Yeah
The problem is that thing doesn't have real solutions
It can be factored to 2 quadratic equation
But no more than that
The denominator
So what was in my mind is
trig substitution
i see now
$$\int\frac{4u^2}{(u^4+1)}du$$
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It directly uses the standard integral of x/(ax² + bx + c) dx
Yeah he used the formula
$$1 + u^4 = 8(u^2-\sqrt{2}u+1)(u^2+\sqrt{2}u+1)$$
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Let a,b,c be disinct reals >= 1. Prove that
|a-b| + |b-c| + |c-a| + 6 <= 2sqrt(2)(a+b+c)
wlog let a > b >c >= 1 then i have
a -c + 3 <= sqrt(2)(a + b + c)
so i have to prove sqrt(2)(a+b+c) + c-a >= 3
stuck here💔
well all of them are >=1 so sqrt(2)(a+a+c)+c-a>sqrt(2)(a+2c)+c-a>(a+2c)+c-a>=(a+2)+1-a=3
wait nvm
this should be fine?
but why is the inequality so loose
idk maybe there isnt an equality case lol
hmm
oh wait
equality case happens only when a =b =c which is impossible
sighh
rahhh ty
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find primes p such that 4p^2 + 1 and 6p^2 + 1 are also prime.
how do i start?? surely its not bash right
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hmmmm interesting question
Primes above 5 are usually denoted in the form of 5k +- 1 or 5k +- 2. Take note of that
Well, using "modulo 4" states that a number should be divisble by 4
yes but i was referring to the remainder until i realised it failed
For both 4p^2+1 and 6p^2+1 to be prime, it's modulo should not have a remainder
My advice for you is to try plug in the first 3 prime numbers into both expressions and see if they're prime numbers
p = 5 works i think?
what does =/= mean😭
p is not equal to 5
oh
aight
p^2 mod 5 is either 0, 1, or 4 with = 0 only when p = 5
and then case check leads us to p = 5?
It's my pleasure
so im done with the proof now?
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((x^2+1)2^(x-1))/x(x+1)
i have to do summation of this series from 1 to n
how can i split it into like a telescoping sum?
my friends told me that u can split it into 3 terms
[ \sum_{r=1}^n \frac{(r^2+1)2^{r-1}}{r(r+1)} ]
kheer257
this is the sum you want?
oh only 2?
yeah
so you likely want something of the form (...) * 2^r - (...) * 2^(r-1)
ok so i can write
1/x(x+1) as 1/x - 1/x+1
ok yeah
The easiest way to do this without any guesswork is probably to perform partial fraction decomposition on the rational bit
oh ok so i have to convert
(r^2+1)/r(r+1) into a telescoping series
oh also
there were options in the question
and when my friends asked me i was like put n=2 and see which options match
and i got the correct answer as well
but they were like no ur not allowed to do that
thats def the easiest way (if you dont have to show your work and actually derive / prove the formula)
not quite
perform the partial fractions first
ohh ok 👍
uhh
not sure how to do that exactly
i havent been taught that as a concept
seems like kheeri went offline
tbh i dont remember how exactly partial fractions are done either, so i use my own method which is kind of a guesswork
It's more kf a trial and error stuff
Assume Tr = br * 2^r
Tr - Tr-1 is what you wanna do
So solve for that
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From the Image, C is the center of a circle with AB as a chord and E bisects AB (and H is C E H collinear, i drew it wrong) Prove that EF >= GH
i dont know where to begin i suck at geo😓
im assuming its like to find some similarities ?
You wanna do it through pure geometry or is coordinate fine?
pure geometry would be better
and D is arbitrary?
okay
oh you didnt mention one key detail
H lies on the bisector (radius)
without that fact its unsolvable
it still looks kinda weird though
i feel like the claim is false
I forgot to put 2
if we were to push D close to the horionztal diameter, it's pretty clear
well
Push D towards horizontal diameter and do the same with AB
if D were on the diameter FD wouldnt pass E
push it close to it
if you do that, then EF will approach CA (i.e. one radius)
while GH will approach sqrt(2)*radius
I think h is not arbitrary
I think g is arbitrary
ill draw a pic...
if G is arbitrary then H is arbitrary as well
oh
do you mean like
H depends on both
D,G,H dont lie on a line?
but like, the ineq should be correct? since this is like the pre-national olympiad test
G is an arbitrary point on AB and H is the point of intersection of circumference ?
ive said everything mentioned😓
oh
maybe because this qns written from memory
theres this one part i have no idea what its abt
here, it should be clear that GH > EF
If you do this assuming H is dependent on G, then they both equal each other
check this pic @hallow hazel
it can be prove via similair shapes right
it cant be proved because it false, unless i still misunderstand the problem
unless its some weird fact i dont know about law of sines?
Your fixing H and drawing the line?
Well, where should H be?
Isnt H supposed to be all the way down?
such that C,E,H lie in a line
Is that a condition?
H should be there
whats the source of the question?
no idea, guessing from the pic
think so
It that’s a condition then the claim is false
even if it wasnt a condition, we would be left with arbitrary H
and it would still be false
darn🥀
i cant imagine an interpretation under which it would be true
The diagram is not even to scale >_< the C isnt even in the center
is there anything else? If so, can you send it?
Even if its in foreign language
@chilly cobalt Has your question been resolved?
translates to
Let C be the centre of a circle,
AB be a chord of that circle
Let E be the midpoint of AB
(law of sine EFH, EHG)
prove that EF >= GH
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can someone explain line 4 and 5
i dont know how they rearranged to get that
rearranged what exactly
(1-e^(-x))^-1 gives you one y
so youre left with $y\cdot\left(-e^{x}\cdot\left(1-e^{x}\right)^{-1}\right)$
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with me on this?
well
$y\cdot\frac{-e^{x}}{1-e^{x}}$
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you can then change it to this
should it not be -x
for this
Yeah, right, good catch
$y\cdot\frac{-e^{-x}}{1-e^{-x}}$
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so we would be here
then we can add and subtract 1 in the numerator
$y\cdot\frac{-1+1-e^{-x}}{1-e^{-x}}$
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now we can split up the fraction
yeh i see it now
$y\cdot\left(\frac{-1}{1-e^{-x}}+\frac{1-e^{-x}}{1-e^{-x}}\right)$
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ight thanks
and it becomes y(1-y)
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Ok, so the only counter example I am able to think about is taking the geometric sum till the nth term
to show that C^1[0,1] to be incomplete
geometric sum of what
$f_n(x) = \sum_{i=0}^n (2x)^{i}$
\sum
$f_n(x) = \sum_{i=0}^n (2x)^i$ --- is that a Cauchy sequence in $(C^1[0,1], \nrm{\cdot}_{\infty})$?
Oh wait, it isn't a Cauchy sequence


