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mint ravine
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but idk what to put for X, so that none of the cards have the same color

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I thought 4 choose 3 would work (cause then you would have 1 of each color and you have to choose 3)

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but that was wrong so idk what to do now

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woeful turret
mint ravine
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sorry yoda

woeful turret
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but first choose the colour which appears twice

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what would that be

mint ravine
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it could be any of the four colors

woeful turret
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yes

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so out of 4 how do u choose 1 colour

mint ravine
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4 choose 1

woeful turret
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yes

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now that we have chosen a colour

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we need to choose 2 numbers

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how would we do that

mint ravine
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can you specify what type of 2 numbers you are talking about

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like for complementary counting or what

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oh nvm

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misunderstood it mb

woeful turret
mint ravine
woeful turret
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correct

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now choose a different colour from the remaining colours

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how would u do that

mint ravine
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3 choose 1

woeful turret
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and now we have one card remaining to choose

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can u tell how would we do that

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also is this an ongoing test?

mint ravine
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no

woeful turret
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okay 👍

woeful turret
mint ravine
woeful turret
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we will do that at the end yes

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but we have one step remaining

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we have covered posibilities for the first 2 cards of same colour

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and we have chosen the colour of the last card

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but now it can be any number

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how do we choose it

mint ravine
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7 choose 1

mint ravine
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c(7,1)

cedar pawn
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I'll do this by a different method and see if I get the same answer

woeful turret
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now multiply everything we have got

mint ravine
woeful turret
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uh

mint ravine
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i cant use the * symbol when writing numbers for some reason

woeful turret
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no

woeful turret
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yes

cedar pawn
mint ravine
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oh ok thanks

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twilit field
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would I be wrong in saying this has no eigenvalues or eigenvectors

fallow scarab
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Did you prove it

twilit field
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I was able to arrive at a contradiction \lambda x_1 = x_1 \implies \lambda =1; \lambda x_2 = 2x_2 \implies \lambda =2 and so on

lavish venture
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why not x_1 = 0?

twilit field
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though now that I think of it, this means the eigenvectors can only have one non-zero entry is what this means

lavish venture
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yea

twilit field
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got it

lavish venture
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so what do you think the eigenvalues are then

twilit field
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the subsapces will be lines in F^n

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cool

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thanks

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molten bay
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molten bay
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x tends to infinity but n and x

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Two variables?

nova yoke
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i guess n is some fixed positive integer?

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molten bay
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Takin log?

fallen sparrow
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Yes

last slate
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Is the answer 1/n ?

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gaunt nimbus
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My guess is

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Consider u = 1/x

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Do ln of the entire thing next

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Can define f(u) = ln(sum from k=0 to k=n k^x)

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Then it should be definition of derivative?

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Not sure tho

desert siren
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Is this from the integration chapter thingy where you take r/n as x and 1/n as dx? Or am i wrong

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gilded bison
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Ti

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gilded bison
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correct?

gaunt nimbus
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,rccw

grand pondBOT
gaunt nimbus
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,w -8000 -(800030.035) + 8000(1.035)^3

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gaunt nimbus
midnight plankBOT
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@gilded bison Has your question been resolved?

gilded bison
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will i get this formula in test

gaunt nimbus
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Do u know

gilded bison
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I think i get finical formulas

gaunt nimbus
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Formula for each form of interests

gilded bison
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But can u show me the formula

gaunt nimbus
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U can google it

gilded bison
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whats it called?

gaunt nimbus
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this is for compound interest

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simlpe interest is this

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[ A = P + Prt]

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i think?

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midnight plankBOT
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@gilded bison Has your question been resolved?

craggy grotto
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COMPOUND INTEREST

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I LOVE COMPOUND INTEREST!

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Work out the Compound interest first

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And then work out the simple interest

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And subtract them from each other to get th Ans

gilded bison
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I did this Shi last term

craggy grotto
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So for example

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I wanna deposit $800 to the bank

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And they will give me interest for trusting the bank

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It’s an easy way to gain money while saving money.

gilded bison
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so lemme try it

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using COMPOUND interest formula

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gilded bison
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gilded bison
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good

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wait whats n?

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@craggy grotto

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would it just be 1

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$8000(1+3.5/1)^1^3$

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$8000(1+\frac{3.5}{1})^1^3$

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gilded bison
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$8000(1+\frac{0.035}{1})^1^\times^3$

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there ya go ya big dumpa

craggy grotto
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Did you get it correct?

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gilded bison
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$A=8000+8000\times0.035\times3$

grand pondBOT
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coehen1231

gilded bison
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difference=

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29.743

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Seems like i have

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,w $A=8000+8000\times0.035\times3$

gilded bison
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,w $8000(1+\frac{0.035}{1})^1^\times^3$

grand pondBOT
gilded bison
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,w $8000(1+\frac{0.035}{1})^1^\times^3

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twilit field
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could someone explain the conclusion ( highlighted ) here

twilit field
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nvm, I think I got it

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worldly pine
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answer is 27 years

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dire stag
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dire stag
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How is it 9 pi

kindred wraith
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what would radius of circle be?

night hawk
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What you drew is a square inscribed in a circle.

kindred wraith
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kindred wraith
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dire stag
dire stag
kindred wraith
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but that later

kindred wraith
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diameter of circle and side of square have anything in common?

dire stag
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Btw diameter is a line that passes through the center of the circle and touches the circumference of the circle twice right

kindred wraith
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longest line which can be made inside a circle

kindred wraith
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need a hint?

kindred wraith
dire stag
kindred wraith
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this time its the circle on the inside

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wait a min lemme make the diagram

kindred wraith
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youll see once u see diagram

dire stag
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I think I need a scale and and compuss for this 😭

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This is crazy dude

kindred wraith
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its very rough dont mind

dire stag
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If a circle is inscribed in a square then it's diameter

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Whoaaaassa

kindred wraith
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now you see

dire stag
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Ur the goat

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Damn man 😂

kindred wraith
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see how the side of square and diameter look same same

dire stag
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Ts was Soo easy 😭 and obvious

kindred wraith
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ye

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that why u normally make a diagram first

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before u attempt

dire stag
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Tyy

kindred wraith
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this when it the square on the inside

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the opposite corners of the square make diameter

dire stag
kindred wraith
dire stag
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I solved it

kindred wraith
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got it?

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whats the answer

dire stag
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Yes

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9 pi

kindred wraith
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yep

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for questions like this first make the diagram then attempt

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even is its a rough diagram it make this hella easier

dire stag
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Real

kindred wraith
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you got any more doubt?

dire stag
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Nahhh

kindred wraith
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ight

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ima go then

dire stag
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I didn't know it's gonna be this fast tbh

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I thought if I create a post

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Then id have to wait for hours 😭

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That's why I've never done ts

kindred wraith
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but for question which arnt collage level it should take like 10 mins max

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oh yea @dire stag after your question done you type ".close"

dire stag
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Mb

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empty ivy
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I'm so confused, what did I do wrong here for part c

bright holly
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You did not evaluate the value of the exponential integral at t=0, it's not zero

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bright holly
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What's e^(-kt) evaluated at t=0?

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molten bay
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Square root of 1/(1-x)^2

midnight plankBOT
molten bay
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Is it correct to say 1/(1-x)

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Or anything condition should be there?

runic hamlet
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|1/(1-x)|

wild eagle
chilly cobalt
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its 1/|1-x|

molten bay
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I am thinking it has to be D

wild eagle
molten bay
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But given answer is b

runic hamlet
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and?

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putting it around the whole expression isnt wrong

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well wlog everything is always positive in india

wild eagle
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I said u dont need it

runic hamlet
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without loss of generality

molten bay
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Which option will be correct

runic hamlet
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d

molten bay
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Yes

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They have to mention the absolute sign

runic hamlet
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but well i've seen it often enough for these questions that people just ignore that things could be zero or negative

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its not like this sum even converges always

molten bay
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You meant b is correct

bright holly
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tbh the actual exams specify all the details and don't leave anything open to interpretation or they give the question as bonus to everyone

chrome laurel
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agp

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ITS

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AGP

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so yeh

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b is correct

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not d

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@molten bay u know how to do it

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AGP problems

subtle zinc
chrome laurel
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arthematic geometric progession

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AGP

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its combination of AP and GP

wild eagle
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?

chrome laurel
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its a series of both ap and gp

runic hamlet
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we all know what it is

chrome laurel
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i got b as answer

runic hamlet
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that doesnt mean you can just ignore those details

chrome laurel
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but

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its a standard model of agp

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they have to mention that x lies btw 0 and 1

runic hamlet
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but they didnt

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so it fails

chrome laurel
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yeh

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but u have to assume

molten bay
runic hamlet
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this is the whole thing we meant

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no you dont have to assume

chrome laurel
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if sum tends to infinity

runic hamlet
chrome laurel
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dunno

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if x is less than 1

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answer is b

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if x is more than one answer is d

runic hamlet
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and therefore because x was unspecified the answer is d

chrome laurel
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is this given in a test

molten bay
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Given answer is B

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So surely it has to be |x|<1

runic hamlet
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wel at least we dont have to worry about the expression being negative

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its either positive or infinity

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open bolt
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open bolt
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how do you do this sat problem I’m really confused

fallen sparrow
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This is a test?

open bolt
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kind of it’s a psat

fallen sparrow
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Is it going on

open bolt
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no it ended

fallen sparrow
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Ok

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What have you tried

open bolt
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I can show u what I did

fallen sparrow
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Show

open bolt
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so I put it in Desmos when I was taking the exam and I found the two points it intersected w the line x

fallen sparrow
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Which are?

open bolt
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sry I’m opening desmos again

fallen sparrow
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Wait

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Before you do that

open bolt
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yes!

fallen sparrow
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Think about solving the problem in an easy way

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Become "LAZY"

open bolt
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wdym 😭😭

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desmos is the laziest way right

fallen sparrow
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Divide the quadratic by 3

fallen sparrow
open bolt
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OHHH

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wait

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so 3(x^2-6x-5)??

fallen sparrow
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Ys

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= 0

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So x^2 - 6x - 5 = 0

open bolt
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oh yes

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so

fallen sparrow
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Also were you allowed to use desmos during test?

open bolt
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it comes with the desmos calculator bc it’s psat

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I think?

fallen sparrow
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I didn't know that

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Anyways

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Now you understand it could've been solved in a much easier way

open bolt
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I think it recently became digital

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maybe it was different when u took it? if u did?

fallen sparrow
open bolt
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ohh okay

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but I’m still kind of confused

fallen sparrow
open bolt
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so like how do I simplify that

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sorry

fallen sparrow
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Right?

open bolt
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yeah

fallen sparrow
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So transpose 5 to the right side

open bolt
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what does transpose mean

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OHH

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like move it

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right

fallen sparrow
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Uh okay forgrt that add 5 to both sides

fallen sparrow
open bolt
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oh okay

fallen sparrow
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So x^2 - 6x = 5

open bolt
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so now I would do x(x-6)?

fallen sparrow
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There you have it

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No

open bolt
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oh

fallen sparrow
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Why would you do it

open bolt
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are u sure

fallen sparrow
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You've got the answer now

open bolt
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im trying to find X right 😭

fallen sparrow
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No aren't you trhna find what is x^2 - 6x

open bolt
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OHHHH

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I thought I was supposed to find X and then do that

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sorry tysm!!!

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can I ask u another question

fallen sparrow
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Sure

ornate bone
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well u could

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probably not in august

open bolt
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ty!!!

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how do u do this

open bolt
ornate bone
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well the graphing calculators

open bolt
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ohhh so like desmos

ornate bone
open bolt
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what’s desmos regression

ornate bone
fallen sparrow
ornate bone
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cas gives you an exact answer

open bolt
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oh so

ornate bone
open bolt
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wait how do u do that

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🤯🤯🤯

open bolt
ornate bone
open bolt
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It js said I was wrong

open bolt
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and how did u write those equations

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sorry I’ve never seen this before

ornate bone
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i defined a new function g(x) = f(x) - 15

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then the next line is essentially telling desmos to "solve a system of equations" (not really but that's the case on the SAT)

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  1. g(0) = -99/7 (given in the question)

  2. ab = 65/7

open bolt
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ohhh

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okay

cedar vector
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help me

open bolt
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me?

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idk if I can but I can try

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???

ornate bone
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get your own

open bolt
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hi sorry

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I just have a rly quick question

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how did u get -99/7

cedar vector
ornate bone
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it's given in the second sentence

ornate bone
open bolt
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im sorry

ornate bone
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maybe u should learn how to work with regressions first

ornate bone
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so they take the first place in each list

open bolt
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oh okay do u have any recommendations to how to learn

ornate bone
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[input list] ~ [output list]

open bolt
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ohh okay

ornate bone
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hmm good question

open bolt
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how did u know the input is like g(0)

ornate bone
open bolt
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bc it’s not in the equation

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what is g

ornate bone
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Do you agree that we know these two things:

  1. g(0) = -99/7
  2. ab = 65/7
ornate bone
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i just defined a new function

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u don't need to

open bolt
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yes but I didn’t know g was 0?

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oh okay

ornate bone
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that's what sentence 2 says

open bolt
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yes

ornate bone
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g(0) = f(0) - 15 = -99/7

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thus g(0) = -99/7

open bolt
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ohhh

ornate bone
open bolt
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so I could technically use any letter

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why is it g?

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sorry

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is that like needed for desmos

ornate bone
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better?

open bolt
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ohhh

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yes sorry that makes sense!

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I think I js need to learn regressions

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do u have any suggestions for where to learn this

ornate bone
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I mean you can certainly do the math

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But a lot of people don't actually know the math

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and still get 750ish with desmos lol

open bolt
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ohh okay thats me

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like idk the math

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but I also don’t know the desmos

ornate bone
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I mean it's not a substitute for not learning the math

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U should still learn it

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But yeah

open bolt
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yeah 😭

ornate bone
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If your goal is like a 700 then maybe not that much

open bolt
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can I show u what I got

ornate bone
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for what?

open bolt
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the psat

ornate bone
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Oh

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Sure

open bolt
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is that bad

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😭😭😭

ornate bone
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😭

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idk depends on your goal

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On the SAT

open bolt
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what should my goal be

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sorry

ornate bone
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you can get 600 with desmos alone

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tbh

ornate bone
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That depends on you

open bolt
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okay ty 😭

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do u have any recommendations for how I can improve

ornate bone
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Did you take a ptest?

open bolt
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what’s test

ornate bone
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ptest = practice test

open bolt
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ohhh yes

ornate bone
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math?

open bolt
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yeah

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like what math should I learn

ornate bone
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U should find your goal score first 😭

ornate bone
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advanced math i think?

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I just took precalc this yr so maybe I need to learn calc?

ornate bone
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yeah "advanced math" is just the constant questions

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technically just algebra

open bolt
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oh 😭

ornate bone
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everything is below precalc

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or precalc at best

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first few chapters of precalc

open bolt
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oh 😟

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okay

ornate bone
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even without precalc u should be able to get 700+

open bolt
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okay 😭

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what should I do if I want to get a 700

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I thought I was pretty good at algebra ngl

ornate bone
open bolt
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I haven’t scheduled it yet!

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this was my psat from my school

ornate bone
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When do you plan to take it?

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Or rather how long do you have to prep

open bolt
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when do u recommend

ornate bone
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😭

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Okay

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take a practice test first

open bolt
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sorry 😭

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I js did

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I’ll take another one

ornate bone
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Okay show the split

open bolt
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what’s that

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like my other one?

ornate bone
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I mean what did you get on your practice test

open bolt
ornate bone
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That's pretty good

open bolt
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ornate bone
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I mean your english score is really high

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and if this is your score without prep

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then it's pretty good

open bolt
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yeah I thought it wasn’t too hard

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thank you 😭😭😭

ornate bone
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Wait, have you taken an official practice test?

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Like the one offered by collegeboard?

open bolt
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this?

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like my school

ornate bone
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It's not from bluebook tho, is it?

open bolt
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no

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it’s from

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uhh

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franklin yard?

ornate bone
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Okay cool cool

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Why don't you take an official practice test

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From bluebook

open bolt
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how do I do that

ornate bone
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It's free

open bolt
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okay!

ornate bone
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Make an account

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and then search for practice test

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Take practice test 4 or something

open bolt
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ohhh okay tyty!!

ornate bone
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The math is a bit easier than the real deal

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but it's still an official source

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so it's the best one out there

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it'll give you a good baseline of where you're truly at

open bolt
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okay tysm!!!!

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💗💗💗

ornate bone
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Sure, gl

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thank you!!!!

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did u already did the sat?

ornate bone
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Yes

open bolt
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do u have any other tips!!!

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I rlly appreciate it 😭😭😭

ornate bone
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But yeah you should probably do a bunch of questions with regression

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There's a whole questionbank

open bolt
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okay 😭😭😭

ornate bone
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So you could start with those

open bolt
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what’s a question bank

ornate bone
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Then there's bluebook+

open bolt
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what’s that

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sorry 😭

ornate bone
open bolt
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OHHH

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WOW

ornate bone
open bolt
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is that legal

ornate bone
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I guess they compiled it here

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But again it's accessible for free

ornate bone
open bolt
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okay tyty !!!!!

ornate bone
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bluebook? yes

open bolt
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thank u!!

ornate bone
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bluebook+? maybe not lol cuz those are past tests

open bolt
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so can I js like memorize these

ornate bone
open bolt
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oh okay 😭😭😭

ornate bone
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They're practice questions issued by collegeboard

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But since they're the test makers

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It's going to be of a higher quality than something you'd find in third party resources

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ohhh okay ty!!

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that makes sense!!

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I really appreciate the resources!

ornate bone
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Lol sure

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np

open bolt
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have an amazing day!!!!

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I’ll study rlly hard!!!

ornate bone
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Mhmm gl

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I'm writing some notes from a book. In these notes, I'm trying to create an anti-example for a given definition.
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In the underlined part, I'm trying to say something like "3 is not a divisor for 7 because there is no integer that multiplies 3 to give 7".

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b3 is not really nice to read

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why does the arrangement of keys on a keychain stay t he same whhen its flipped over

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also why is it mutiplied by two

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flipping a keychain over doesn’t affect the order of the keys

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I suppose it is because thinking about a keychain as a 3d object, when the keychain is flipped upside down you consider the perspectives of the keys to be flipped as well. Just a guess.

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<@&286206848099549185>

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Good thing helpers ping doesn't do anything

narrow edge
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no

narrow edge
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i am waiting since 45 minutes smh

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i keep getting pinged here

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all the helpers keep getting pinged here

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but let me see if i could help

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okay so i’m not too good at this rn

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but if i had to assume it’s because a circle has no sides

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and because it had no sides and all the points are spread across recently

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evenly*

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spinning it doesn’t change the angles or distance between the points

narrow edge
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i dont understand reflections

fallow steppe
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let me see

narrow edge
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the reflection of the points on a circle gives a different arrangement but when it is the keys of a keychain the arrangement does not chaange

fallow steppe
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the keys of a keychain aren’t circled

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circles

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so

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here’s how the reflections work

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so you know rotating doesn’t change the order they are in

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at it’s a b c

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no matter the way it’s spun

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spin it

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b
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the numbers next to a are the same (along with the other points)

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now we will reflect it

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a
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turns to

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a
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the order of the letters are different than before

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does that make sense

narrow edge
fallow steppe
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depends on how you read it

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i was going top right left

narrow edge
fallow steppe
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okay

narrow edge
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so why do circle have a different arrangement when they are flipped and keychains dont when they are essentially the same thing?

narrow edge
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so sorry

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i have no idea

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and keychains if you flip them look different

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I want to understand this root process

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Synthetic division

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Could someone help me solve this integral step by step? The solution on symbolab is super messy and hard to grasp

lyric charm
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can we see what symbolab is suggesting to do

tiny bolt
lyric charm
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screenshots are better

tiny bolt
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although the final answer isnt fully captured

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So the first step here of u substitution isn't super clear

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U = r^{1/4}?

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Du = (1/4) U^(-3/4)

tiny bolt
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Unfortunately I don't have symbolab pro

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There's barely any clues

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It's direcf

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Ok let's try that
u = r^(1/4)

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r=u^4

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dr = 4u^3

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Yeah that's clear now

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$$\int\frac1{r^{\frac14}(r+1)}dr$$

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lyric charm
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dr = 4u^3 du btw

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let's not drop pieces of notation

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but it looks like yeah that's the only way forward regardless

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and after that it's going to be quite ugly

tiny bolt
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Then it uses partial fraction

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But at one part it just directly skips

lethal owl
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$$\int\frac1{u(u^4+1)}4u^3du$$

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Sherif Player

tiny bolt
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With no explanation at all, just the solution

lethal owl
lethal owl
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The denominator

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So what was in my mind is
trig substitution

tiny bolt
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i see now

lethal owl
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$$\int\frac{4u^2}{(u^4+1)}du$$

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Sherif Player

tiny bolt
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It directly uses the standard integral of x/(ax² + bx + c) dx

lethal owl
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Yeah he used the formula
$$1 + u^4 = 8(u^2-\sqrt{2}u+1)(u^2+\sqrt{2}u+1)$$

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I see

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Let a,b,c be disinct reals >= 1. Prove that
|a-b| + |b-c| + |c-a| + 6 <= 2sqrt(2)(a+b+c)

chilly cobalt
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wlog let a > b >c >= 1 then i have
a -c + 3 <= sqrt(2)(a + b + c)

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so i have to prove sqrt(2)(a+b+c) + c-a >= 3

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stuck here💔

viral dagger
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well all of them are >=1 so sqrt(2)(a+a+c)+c-a>sqrt(2)(a+2c)+c-a>(a+2c)+c-a>=(a+2)+1-a=3

chilly cobalt
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oh

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wait but if i do that then i dont have equality

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?

viral dagger
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wait nvm

viral dagger
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but why is the inequality so loose

chilly cobalt
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ehh

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seems a bit sketchy

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we still dont have equality case thouhg

viral dagger
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idk maybe there isnt an equality case lol

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hmm

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oh wait

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equality case happens only when a =b =c which is impossible

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doesent touch

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find primes p such that 4p^2 + 1 and 6p^2 + 1 are also prime.

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how do i start?? surely its not bash right

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tawdry laurel
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hmmmm interesting question

tawdry ermine
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Well, using "modulo 4" states that a number should be divisble by 4

tawdry laurel
tawdry ermine
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My advice for you is to try plug in the first 3 prime numbers into both expressions and see if they're prime numbers

chilly cobalt
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p = 5 works i think?

tawdry ermine
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Yes

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So now try working it out if p =/= 5 using modulo 5

chilly cobalt
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what does =/= mean😭

tawdry ermine
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p is not equal to 5

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oh

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p^2 mod 5 is either 0, 1, or 4 with = 0 only when p = 5

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and then case check leads us to p = 5?

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There you go

chilly cobalt
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goated!!!

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tyty

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chilly cobalt
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so im done with the proof now?

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Yep

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tysmm!!

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((x^2+1)2^(x-1))/x(x+1)

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woeful turret
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i have to do summation of this series from 1 to n

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how can i split it into like a telescoping sum?

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my friends told me that u can split it into 3 terms

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[ \sum_{r=1}^n \frac{(r^2+1)2^{r-1}}{r(r+1)} ]

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kheer257

zealous schooner
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this is the sum you want?

woeful turret
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yeah

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thanks for the latex text

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yeah so you need to split this

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woeful turret
zealous schooner
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well I'm not sure

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you want to split it into the form T_r - T_{r-1}

woeful turret
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yeah

zealous schooner
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so you likely want something of the form (...) * 2^r - (...) * 2^(r-1)

woeful turret
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ok so i can write
1/x(x+1) as 1/x - 1/x+1

zealous schooner
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The easiest way to do this without any guesswork is probably to perform partial fraction decomposition on the rational bit

woeful turret
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oh ok so i have to convert
(r^2+1)/r(r+1) into a telescoping series

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oh also

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there were options in the question

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and when my friends asked me i was like put n=2 and see which options match

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and i got the correct answer as well

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but they were like no ur not allowed to do that

dreamy lichen
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thats def the easiest way (if you dont have to show your work and actually derive / prove the formula)

zealous schooner
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perform the partial fractions first

woeful turret
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not sure how to do that exactly

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i havent been taught that as a concept

dreamy lichen
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seems like kheeri went offline

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tbh i dont remember how exactly partial fractions are done either, so i use my own method which is kind of a guesswork

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Assume Tr = br * 2^r

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Tr - Tr-1 is what you wanna do

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So solve for that

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oh ok

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From the Image, C is the center of a circle with AB as a chord and E bisects AB (and H is C E H collinear, i drew it wrong) Prove that EF >= GH

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i dont know where to begin i suck at geo😓

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im assuming its like to find some similarities ?

fallen sparrow
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You wanna do it through pure geometry or is coordinate fine?

chilly cobalt
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pure geometry would be better

dreamy lichen
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and D is arbitrary?

chilly cobalt
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i think so yeah!

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the problem only states these

dreamy lichen
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whats H?

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oh is it also arbitrary?

chilly cobalt
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yehh

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original img for reference

dreamy lichen
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okay

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oh you didnt mention one key detail

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H lies on the bisector (radius)

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without that fact its unsolvable

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it still looks kinda weird though

chilly cobalt
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mb man

dreamy lichen
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i feel like the claim is false

desert siren
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I forgot to put 2

dreamy lichen
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if we were to push D close to the horionztal diameter, it's pretty clear

desert siren
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Nm its still false

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Its not at the center opencry

dreamy lichen
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Push D towards horizontal diameter and do the same with AB

chilly cobalt
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if D were on the diameter FD wouldnt pass E

dreamy lichen
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while GH will approach sqrt(2)*radius

chilly cobalt
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hmm

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damn

hallow hazel
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I think h is not arbitrary

dreamy lichen
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yeah, its not

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but even then

hallow hazel
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I think g is arbitrary

dreamy lichen
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ill draw a pic...

dreamy lichen
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oh

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do you mean like

hallow hazel
dreamy lichen
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D,G,H dont lie on a line?

chilly cobalt
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but like, the ineq should be correct? since this is like the pre-national olympiad test

dreamy lichen
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certainly a poorly worded

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unless you forgot to mention sth

hallow hazel
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G is an arbitrary point on AB and H is the point of intersection of circumference ?

chilly cobalt
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oh

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maybe because this qns written from memory

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theres this one part i have no idea what its abt

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subtle grove
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it can be prove via similair shapes right

dreamy lichen
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it cant be proved because it false, unless i still misunderstand the problem

chilly cobalt
hallow hazel
dreamy lichen
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Isnt H supposed to be all the way down?

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such that C,E,H lie in a line

hallow hazel
subtle grove
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H should be there

dreamy lichen
dreamy lichen
subtle grove
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think so

hallow hazel
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It that’s a condition then the claim is false

dreamy lichen
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even if it wasnt a condition, we would be left with arbitrary H

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and it would still be false

chilly cobalt
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darn🥀

dreamy lichen
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i cant imagine an interpretation under which it would be true

dreamy lichen
dreamy lichen
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Even if its in foreign language

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chilly cobalt
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translates to

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Let C be the centre of a circle,
AB be a chord of that circle
Let E be the midpoint of AB
(law of sine EFH, EHG)
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can someone explain line 4 and 5

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drowsy wing
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i dont know how they rearranged to get that

dreamy lichen
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rearranged what exactly

drowsy wing
dreamy lichen
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(1-e^(-x))^-1 gives you one y

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so youre left with $y\cdot\left(-e^{x}\cdot\left(1-e^{x}\right)^{-1}\right)$

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dreamy lichen
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well

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$y\cdot\frac{-e^{x}}{1-e^{x}}$

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dreamy lichen
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you can then change it to this

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$y\cdot\frac{-e^{-x}}{1-e^{-x}}$

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so we would be here

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then we can add and subtract 1 in the numerator

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$y\cdot\frac{-1+1-e^{-x}}{1-e^{-x}}$

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dreamy lichen
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now we can split up the fraction

drowsy wing
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yeh i see it now

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$y\cdot\left(\frac{-1}{1-e^{-x}}+\frac{1-e^{-x}}{1-e^{-x}}\right)$

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ight thanks

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and it becomes y(1-y)

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radiant lagoon
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Ok, so the only counter example I am able to think about is taking the geometric sum till the nth term

radiant lagoon
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to show that C^1[0,1] to be incomplete

lyric charm
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geometric sum of what

radiant lagoon
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$f_n(x) = \sum_{i=0}^n (2x)^{i}$

lyric charm
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\sum

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$f_n(x) = \sum_{i=0}^n (2x)^i$ --- is that a Cauchy sequence in $(C^1[0,1], \nrm{\cdot}_{\infty})$?

grand pondBOT
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Xyrokryen

radiant lagoon
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Oh wait, it isn't a Cauchy sequence