LX right now
#voice-chat-text-1
halcyon notch
hearty heath
halcyon notch
π
hearty heath
halcyon notch
Deus LX machina
robust yarrow
π§
raven orbit
π§
gray seal
π§
halcyon notch
π§
π
halcyon notch
π§ is typing...
raven orbit
π§
gray seal
Hi
raven orbit
halcyon notch
Petition to make Wallace the new python mascot
raven orbit
gray seal
hearty heath
Yep
halcyon notch
π§ at
uneven ridge
@uneven ridge
hearty heath
Yeah, no drugs talk please π
robust yarrow
It is illegal in my state to get a fish drunk :)
raven orbit
halcyon notch
robust yarrow
hearty heath
LP, what is that music that keeps playing?
Oh right.
I'm keeping the cheese in my name, because I like how it looks.
Brb
robust yarrow
coarse hearthBOT
:incoming_envelope: :ok_hand: applied mute to @misty sinew until <t:1628567219:f> (9 minutes and 59 seconds) (reason: discord_emojis rule: sent 76 emojis in 10s).
onyx lava
misty sinew
hlo
brodev
hello
how are u doing man
well ,hopped into anycool project @unkempt pawn
unkempt pawn
Hey
unkempt pawn
well ,hopped into anycool project <@!780449492620935168>
A multi-purpose discord bot
Nothing special π
misty sinew
A multi-purpose discord bot
oh,sounds good
misty sinew
retro feeling in sublime isin`t.
hard pollen
shy glacier
@halcyon notch I just noticed your using emacs with that flycheck xD
sage shuttle
class Wrapper:
def __init__(self, data: Dict[str, Any]) -> None:
self.__dict__.extend(data)
@raw wren we don't talk about it
unborn prairie
6.6708953 * 10^19 ipv6 adresses per square centimetre on earth
dreamy vault
wintry sinew
golden marsh
coarse hearthBOT
@unborn prairie :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.
True
the whole talk of a black hole frying earth with radiation reminded me of this short story: https://www.reddit.com/r/HFY/comments/631sm0/lablonnamedadon/
hearty heath
I should not have been allowed to choose my own courses in high school, to be fair π
We used to have a similar system in the UK, with 'comprehensive' schools and 'grammar' schools.
You had to pass an exam at age 11 to get into a grammar school.
Sociology?
Civics?
Oh that sound useful actually.
golden marsh
hearty heath
Maybe that would be called 'general studies' here π€
I have you at 140%
Erm, he's a bit quieter than you.
Ah right π
unborn prairie
me atm
hearty heath
It does sound a bit like you're training pokemon or something.
golden marsh
hearty heath
I think in Europe, master's degrees are typically 1 year.
And bachelor's degrees are usually 3 years.
I always thought 'college' was synonymous with 'university' in the US π€
Well, there are generous grants, aren't there?
unborn prairie
@peak frigate π
hearty heath
In the UK a college is an institution you might go to from 16 to 18. It can also mean a constituent college of a collegiate university (Oxford, Cambridge, and a few others).
golden marsh
hard magnet
any of you good with python that could hop over to #off-topic-lounge-text and let me pick your brain real quick?
hearty heath
any of you good with python that could hop over to <#766330079135268884> and let...
Hey π What kind of problem do you need help with?
hearty heath
So, what are we talking about? π
elder wraith
joins 
true valley
Joins?
unborn prairie
elder wraith
https://crates.io/keywords/twitch
again, it may or may not be as developed as Java/Node library
mild flume
Sorry for any trouble or hurt feelings I caused
golden marsh
Sorry for any trouble or hurt feelings I caused
you're fine, i think your reaction was reasonable.
every time this happens i promise to myself i wont engage into arguments like this anymore and the next day im at it again, having gotten dragged in by something i was sure could not become a bad argument.
mild flume
I appreciate that you recognize it
It's really easy to get caught up in the moment and not take that step back
golden marsh
its annoying tho, to the point where im hesitant to join VC at all
The WebGL build option allows Unity to publish content as JavaScript programs which use HTML5/JavaScript, WebAssembly, WebGL rendering
API and other web standards to run Unity content in a web browser.
mild flume
That's why I try to keep things calm, it's just not possible all the time. And I enjoy you here in call, same with @true valley , same with all of you. But I want all of you to try and take a step back and breathe whenever you feel that coming on or you catch yourself already in progress
I don't want to be an asshole or seen as one, but when I join and it's almost a shouting match, that's a problem
golden marsh
and theres this nagging part in my brain saying "i did nothing wrong this is everyone elses fault"
which is, yknow, not great
mild flume
But that's the part of communicating. It's a multi ended thing. Sometimes you may not be at fault, however the situation still topples over into something it shouldn't have. It's about learning to diffuse the situation and sometimes even abandoning a point for the sake of the full conversation or the mood of the group
If it's in a loop, swap gears
There doesn't always have to be a final word, as it were
elder wraith
Just to sum it up, DNS analytics are not important to most, DNS is different service thus it makes sense that CF DNS Analytics API is very sparse/unusual and not like the rest of their web proxy APIs
golden marsh
unborn prairie
also going back to the api i never said its bad just that its weird
elder wraith
{
"username": "Rabbit",
"DiscordID": "113304266269003776",
"Server": "Python Discord",
"ServerID": "267624335836053506"
}```
elder wraith
sqlite.insert("INSERT INTO USERS (Username, DiscordID, Server, ServerID) VALUES(?,?,?,?)",(data.username,data.Discordid,data.Server,data.ServerID))```u = User(username=json["username"], discord_id=json["DiscordID"])
# u = User(**json)
db.session.add(u)
NOOOOO
hidden cliff
@Serializable
data class Row(val name: String, val age: Int)
ionic crater
Kotlin is worse than cpp
hidden cliff
data class MyAppUser(val email: String, val realName:String)
internal object MyAppUserTable : LongIdTable("my_app_user_table") {
val email = varchar("user_email", 255).uniqueIndex()
val realName = varchar("real_name", 255)
}
internal class MyAppUserDAO(id: EntityID<Long>) : LongEntity(id) {
companion object : LongEntityClass<MyAppUserDAO>(MyAppUserTable)
val email by MyAppUserTable.email
val realName by MyAppUserTable.realName
fun toModel():MyAppUser{
return MyAppUser(email, realName)
}
}
cpp is objectively better than kotlin
hearty heath
No language wars please π
ionic crater
not an opinion but ok
golden marsh
it is, just cut it out. languages have different usecases and some are better for usecases than others. there is no objective rating for language goodness. there just is not.
ionic crater
that is an opinion
bro I am so burnt out of coding
hearing this is so tiring
but I need to comeback
hey geno
elder wraith
ok?
mild flume
Are you intentionally trying to rile people up
ionic crater
mild flume
Oh sure as soon as an admin steps in people will behave, instead of just not being obnoxious in the first place
ionic crater
golden marsh
me, a helper, or LX, a moderator, apparently aren't enough.
mild flume
I'm already short on patience. Listen to my staff, stop trying to irritate people for the lols, and enjoy your stay in Python Discord. Okay? Okay
misty sinew
you guys like my hexagons? They snap to a grid
misty sinew
@golden marsh did you have something else to say about it?
golden marsh
coarse hearthBOT
@golden marsh :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.
001 | name 'numpy' is not defined
002 | <module 'numpy' from '/snekbox/user_base/lib/python3.9/site-packages/numpy/__init__.py'>
golden marsh
hearty heath
Sorry Laund. Dealing with some mod stuff right now.
Me neither π
It might help to explain the use-case.
And you're abstracting away which library is used?
golden marsh
unkempt pawn
Which theme did you use?
hearty heath
return {
key: value
for env in envs
for key, value in env.environment().items()
}
```?Not sure if it's better but Β―_(γ)_/Β―
Oh, chain map is cool.
Erm, sorry reading another channel.
Oh, I don't really talk sorry π
Would be cool if there were a dict equivalent to set.union(*mysets).
spare trellis
I think this would work: return dict(ChainMap(*[env.environment() for env in reversed(envs)]))
golden marsh
yep that works
https://img.laundmo.com/u/4HBAez.png
unborn prairie
@golden marsh go sleep
snow sable
snow sable
quaint olive
is he talking about tuples?
hearty heath
Can you give us an example of intended input and output @flat torrent ?
MIT have a nice course I think.
quaint olive
what do you guys think about DSA do you think it's compulsory?
hearty heath
what do you guys think about DSA do you think it's compulsory?
Data-structures and algorithms?
quaint olive
Data-structures and algorithms?
yes
hearty heath
It depends what kind of work you're doing. It's certainly important to understand the concepts behind the basic analysis of the performance of algorithms.
Particularly if you want your code to scale well!
Yeah, me too. Bye Mina π
urban nest
-play happy birthday
wintry sinew
hearty heath
I've always had a good impression of OCR as an exam board.
random minnow
I've always had a good impression of OCR as an exam board.
my options are OCR or AQA
pretty much
i've heard people both calling them out to be shit and as a whole comp sci seems a bit shit in the UK
hearty heath
Yeah, I guess the most important thing might be to have a good teacher.
Most people with a CS degree would rather get a high paying job writing software than go into teaching.
We didn't even have CS when I was at school, just ICT 
sage shuttle
random minnow
Yeah, I guess the most important thing might be to have a good teacher.
My GCSE comp sci teach can barely write python (She has a go at me for using classes in cases where it would be preferable to use a class), although she comes from a theory background so she is pretty good at teaching that and she is also pretty nice.
random minnow
isn't ICT like learning how to use spread sheets word and common software?
hearty heath
isn't ICT like learning how to use spread sheets word and common software?
Pretty much
random minnow
sounds like a joy
hearty heath
In painstaking detail
random minnow
I was laughing when I saw joe is gonna learn PHP
hearty heath
true valley
ICT = Information and communications technology?
hearty heath
I can put "Microsoft word proficient" on my resume π
When applying to Facebook.
Oh yeah, lacks 'discoverability'.
A wild Griff π
blazing plank
hello
random minnow
"
proficient"
blazing plank
whats going on?
pearl torrent
lol @ KJ im building my github action literally just looking at yours lol
@ KJ do you know what the key-path is?
blazing plank
was configuring my neovim, does anyone know about this, i can't figure out why this is happening
hearty heath
Well I think his point was that Gymnasium literally means a kind of school and nothing else.
It pretty much means the same thing as 'grammar school' in the UK.
But grammar school has nothing to do with learning grammar, it's just a selective-entry state school.
random minnow
@ KJ do you know what the `key-path` is?
@random minnow not @ KJ its @random minnow
hearty heath
The @ KJ ping is like calling someone's name in real life, but deliberately just quiet enough that they don't hear you π
random minnow
The @ KJ ping is like calling someone's name in real life, but deliberately just...
@pearl torrent
hearty heath
"Ah well they didn't hear me, nevermind."
pearl torrent
The @ KJ ping is like calling someone's name in real life, but deliberately just...
lmaoooo
pearl torrent
"Ah well they didn't hear me, nevermind."
this is what im aiming for
blazing plank
was configuring my neovim, does anyone know about this, i can't figure out why t...
whhat, if i comment out this it works, i wonder whats wrong in here 
(sorry for puttng random msgs)
no worries
vim has a lot of good libs, so nvim > vim for me
and i never tried emacs
random minnow
and i never tried emacs
im not a fan of vanilla emacs but i love doom emacs (as you can see on my stream)
true valley
hearty heath
KJ, you've got me looking at A-level CS past papers π
blazing plank
true valley
blazing plank
gl π
blazing plank
maybe
what are you using matplotlib for?
maybe write an api to get matplotlib graphs and then render them?
give it a shot?
mild flume
hearty heath
Could you do it in a VM?
dark dove
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/44905416/how-to-get-started-use-matplotlib-i...
I know how to use matplotlib in kivy)
thx
blazing plank
π
hearty heath
Oh yeah π
You can emulate another architecture, but I don't think you can run another architecture in a VM? π€
blazing plank
look what i found
this might help
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/33398723/kivy-numpy-android-error this is where i got that from
hearty heath
But is it actually practical to run a compiler in QEMU?
blazing plank
https://github.com/kivy/python-for-android/tree/master/pythonforandroid/recipes/...
@dark dove
dark dove
<@!533303458498084876>
Yeah, I've seen, thx
blazing plank
np
mild flume
blazing plank
got to go, cya
dark dove
bye
mild flume
I mention it specifically because of this adorable bastard
dark dove
thank you!
dusty apex
I mention it specifically because of this adorable bastard
is that their wings?
it looks terrifyign though
peak frigate
dusty apex
charred creek
dusty apex
taylor swift songs are good
true valley
"In spite of my rage 'I'm still just ready to cage"
hearty heath
@random minnow I looked at past papers, and AQA seems more straightforward. OCR seems a bit more stimulating, but also has a lot of questions like "why are computers bad for the environment" π
true valley
Actual lyrics: "In spite of my rage, I'm still just a rat in a cage"
"Excuse me while I kiss this guy"
hearty heath
"You are the piece of meat, I wish I didn't eaaat."
mild flume
WAWTAION
dusty apex
wawation
mild flume
@halcyon notch Your mic got stuck and you just kept saying Japanese over and over and over
dusty apex
while True:
LP.say('Japaneese')
I always heard this, do people miss hear this line?
true valley
Yes. I did.
dusty apex
it happens with every song
true valley
Though it wasn't Tony Danza. It was something like, "Turn me down sir." for me.
random minnow
<@!412009418670997536> I looked at past papers, and AQA seems more straightforwa...
I hate those kind of questions, that why I have been considering AQA since i'm doing OCR right now and these kind of vague questions annoy me where the only way to answer them is to know the mark scheme
true valley
I thought the lyric was βHold me close or turn me down sirβ
mild flume
Though it wasn't Tony Danza. It was something like, "Turn me down sir." for me.
OH that reminds me. For the song Tiny Dancer:
πΆ Hold me closer, Tony Danza πΆ
mild acorn
seriously
raven orbit
willem holleeder
mild acorn
well i am going to have dinner i may or may not reutnr
god speed
true valley
"dyslexics on fire."
Actual Lyrics: "Your sex is on fire"... though I still have a hard time hearing this one correctly.
true valley
who are these people who don't play games?
mild flume
Let me double check
mild acorn
i typed the specific sentence in #voice-verification
hearty heath
"dyslexics on fire."
mild flume
!voiceverify
true valley
<:kek:844004673207795743>
try not hearing it. I have trouble
hearty heath
I have the same problem mis-hearing lyrics tbh Furyo π
mild acorn
thx for help
again
mild flume
It's why I'm here
mild acorn
yay
hearty heath
try not hearing it. I have trouble
I'm sure it has something to do with language models and entropy. Like, if you know what to expect to hear, you hear it much more clearly. Like, when I listen to pilot radio-speak, I can barely make out a single thing they're saying.
Because I don't have a mental model for that language, I don't know what to expect to hear.
true valley
I'm sure it has something to do with language models and entropy. Like, if you k...
Misophonia.
raven orbit
to be fair, pilots and atc do a good imitation of the micro-machine man
peak frigate
oh there's a korean tv show that plays on this. the game is you listen to a song and dictate/transcribe a couple lines of the lyrics
raven orbit
also when I expect to hear it, I sometimes miss a word
peak frigate
and the prize is yummy food
mild flume
That's awesome
hearty heath
Misophonia.
I thought that's where you get annoyed by certain sounds π€
Like chewing.
peak frigate
and once you're TOLD what the lyrics are, you hear them crystal clear
mild flume
and the prize is yummy food
@raven orbit No no, she said yummy food
true valley
I thought that's where you get annoyed by certain sounds π€
Ah yes... your correct.
hearty heath
<@!473859714162360320> No no, she said yummy food
Kimchi is alright. Maybe not on its own π
peak frigate
LOL ew
mild flume
I don't like that desiccant burn
peak frigate
promise it tastes better than it looks
true valley
oh there's a korean tv show that plays on this. the game is you listen to a song...
Link?
hearty heath
Imagine just downing a bowl of kimchi.
hearty heath
Am I right in thinking kimchi can sometimes be 'fizzy'?
peak frigate
hhmm bubbly yeah kind of
mild flume
It's pickled radish, right?
mild flume
Right right
mild flume
I think it's the radish one I hate
peak frigate
you have to try dishes with cooked kimchi, either kimchi stew or kimchi fried rice
or kimchi jeon (pancake). all take it to the next level
hearty heath
Kimchi fried rice is great
peak frigate
stawwwwwwwwpppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp i'm gonna want to eat π§
wahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
i did this to myself nvm
hearty heath
Sorry π
true valley
I'm sure it has something to do with language models and entropy. Like, if you k...
Selective hearing?
peak frigate
https://twitter.com/i/status/937105553968566272
oh weird
i can kinda feel it lol
no actually it's more of a pounding sound that i hear
true valley
synesthesia
honest void
coarse hearthBOT
:incoming_envelope: :ok_hand: applied mute to @honest void until <t:1628701974:f> (9 minutes and 59 seconds) (reason: burst rule: sent 8 messages in 10s).
hearty heath
Did you hear about when the police completely destroyed some guys house in pursuit of a fugitive? They tried to get compensation but lost the case.
true valley
hearty heath
But they took a weird strategy in court, if I remember correctly.
Is that like, an Irish name? π
Fury O'Shonen
mild flume
Mongoose?
pearl torrent
mongoose is a nodejs library for connecting to mongodb
at least i think thats what he/shes talking about considering that it is the most popular use of that name in programming
hearty heath
I thought I heard 'drone strike' π
fierce ferry
mongoose is a nodejs library for connecting to mongodb
yup
ok i cant talk in the vc
pearl torrent
check #voice-verification for information on how to get permission to speak
fierce ferry
so i ll explain this error here
raw wren
!voice
coarse hearthBOT
violet venture
Hi
fierce ferry
@mild flume dude do u know mongodb or mongoose i need some help with an error
mild flume
fierce ferry
i cant find its solution on the net
bruh what is this rule that u need 50 msgs to talk in the vc
bruh
so can u make me able to speak in the chat i wanna talk
but i dont want to wait till i get 50 msgs
pls
i know ok i ll try to get 50 msgs
yeah i know this is the most active server i have seen
lol XD that guy was sus
these msgs count in my 50 msgs right?
pearl torrent
yep
mild flume
fierce ferry
yeah that happens
bruh i feel like sometimes i am not at all prodective since the last week
mild flume
bruh i feel like sometimes i am not at all prodective since the last week
Yeah I'm right there with you
hearty heath
Oooo Korean barbecue
peak frigate
fierce ferry
bruh like i m indian and u guys are talking abt food i fantisize abt in dreams like they are not very common in india so now i m hungry even after i just had dinner
oh anyone tried the new windows 11?
why?
violet venture
Monitoring imagination?
hearty heath
peak frigate
kk i'm ordering from here 
fierce ferry
bcs i have an old monitor which is of square shape and less res so windows 11 helps me a lot
yup bro thats very hard and imagination is also very dangerous bcs it can easily make u an overthinker
dont mind my philosiphical talks just trying to get my msgs upto 50
fierce ferry
can someone tell me how can i check how many msgs are left?
fierce ferry
u guys know each other or what bcs it seems like u guys know each other
violet venture
But - there's also the time requirement
fierce ferry
couldnt get what u mean mate
oh ok ok
lol
man i wanna show the problem i m stuck on
bcs i m not able to progress in my project ahead
peak frigate
fierce ferry
ok well gimme some advice here
i m thinking abt learning python
but i have already learnt c++ fully
like i do competitve programming in c++
so how should i go about learning python
yup man i can build windows applications using c++
mild flume
!resources "A Byte of Python"
coarse hearthBOT
fierce ferry
oh ok ok
like i was asking should i learn python on practical application like just grasp the basics and then go to a perticular application i can do using it
or first i should i learn programming in python?
ok ok
mild flume
peak frigate
@finite summit no i don't, what is it?
mild flume
!code
coarse hearthBOT
coarse hearthBOT
dusty apex
somebody knows bs4?
yea
dusty apex
can u help me?
yea
peak frigate
bs4 is beautiful soup?
dusty apex
whats the problem
finite summit
bs4 is beautiful soup?
ye
violet venture
At least take them to dinner first?
dusty apex
bs4 is beautiful soup?
yea
violet venture
bs4 is beautiful soup?
Yes
dusty apex
BeautifulSoup + requests = BeautifulRequest
peak frigate
https://automatetheboringstuff.com/2e/chapter12/ idk bs4 but you can start w/ this
fierce ferry
this is the error anyone here knows web dev then pls help
fierce ferry
ok
dusty apex
yea
finite summit
i want make web scraping
dusty apex
alright
finite summit
i did a code
violet venture
@mild flume
https://www.reddit.com/r/StuffOnCats/
finite summit
but its so manually
dusty apex
show code
violet venture
Cats are cats, not food
dusty apex
and also join #code-help-voice-text
fierce ferry
anyone watches anime here?
halcyon notch
hearty heath
I always used to like Cracked. Not looked at it in a while.
fierce ferry
so @mild flume how do i use this resource a byte of python there is too much info here and too many channels
hearty heath
I really liked the style of humour there.
fierce ferry
i cant c the book here
yesterday i took an internship in which i had to type a 100 pages in 6 days but they didnt know i was a programming
programmer*
they gave me a softwre in which copy paste was disabled
i could have typed it all
but man i didnt want to
oh ok ok
i understand
i had to type
but i made a autohotkey script to type whatever there was in my clipboard
and the content i had to type that were pages of some books
so i just used the google images OCR text scanner and then just pasted it using the script and the whole of the 100 pages were completed in 1 day XD
i earned Rs. 11,000 from that
yup it were jpg files
images
hmm
violet venture
11,000 Indian Rupee equals 148.24 United States Dollar - Google
peak frigate
i don't understand your internship story. why are they paying you for a job and then putting restrictions on copy/pasting? it sounds like a test or an assignment
mild flume
any advice on how to get a better internships
Not personally, but #career-advice might. But you might want to specify where you're from
fierce ferry
i don't understand your internship story. why are they paying you for a job and ...
yeah i know i feel the same but i know why
look the thing was i had to pay like 700rs for registration
for the internship website
yeah man it was a scam
but i outdid them π
ok one more thing
can someone review this basic site
its my personal portfolio website
what @halcyon notch
lol
wht are ur reviews on the page?
i know its just the basics rn
i m gathering ideas to put in
u guys like tacos
i ate at taco bell the last week but bruh thts the worst food u can buy acc to me
i dont have chipotle in my country sadly
wait like for me the common food is roti + sabji(diff cooked spicy vegetables) ro daal(spicy pulses)
fierce ferry
wait like for me the common food is roti + sabji(diff cooked spicy vegetables) r...
have u guys ever had this type of indian food?
π
i c i c
how spicy was it?
fierce ferry
wait what is the difference between vegan and vegitarian arent they both the same?
peak frigate
no
fierce ferry
huh thats new to my ears
hasnt the food arrived yet mina?
u ordered ur lunch right?
lol
halcyon notch
fierce ferry
ok bye
mild flume
See you later
fierce ferry
cya
warm tendon
πΏ π
hearty heath
I wish the f-string format-specifiers had a ... feature.
So like if the string is longer than the specified width, it would truncate it and add ... to the end.
Something like: ```
s = 'a 21 character string'
f"{s:10...}"
'a 21 ch...'
silk schooner
Dacia Spring EV Priced In Germany, Starts At β¬10,920 After Incentives
dusty apex
ik LP its a little late but heres how a dosa looks like
https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftse1.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DOIP.AAeMOleCsTZ6bN_MA_cQqQHaEK%26pid%3DApi&f=1
half zephyr
hello
dusty apex
my headset is about to break
cause like when i standup my headset's wires were getting pulled and now its like kind of broken
dusty apex
i use vim because you can edit in terminal
misty sinew
hi
dusty apex
and its helpful
dusty apex
i use vim because you can edit in terminal
@halcyon notch
elder wraith
dusty apex
https://www.theverge.com/2020/6/8/21283769/brave-browser-affiliate-links-crypto-...
hmm
sage shuttle
Why did I get a Bad Gateway ;-;
raw wren
refresh?
sage shuttle
ah π
raven orbit
golden marsh
@wary fable https://letterh.xyz
mild flume
Back in a bit
raw wren
wary fable
seeing this
dusty apex
@golden marsh here some reasons that i collected, for thonny being a bad IDE
- Key binding for comments in thonny is something like ctrl+3 (but in all other ides like sublime-text, vscode, jetbrains its ctrl+/)
- key binding for multiple cursors don't exists
- no auto-completion
golden marsh
<@!151347084602245120> here some reasons that i collected, for thonny being a ba...
... really? i didnt even recomend thonny, that was hemlock.
sage shuttle
For the first one, I can't even press Ctrl + /
mild flume
Dude, again
It's meant for beginners
I really don't know why you're ripping into it
sage shuttle
2 and 3 are fine, I never use 2 unless accidentally
golden marsh
For the first one, I can't even press `Ctrl + /`
for me its actually ctrl + # which is neat because # in python
sage shuttle
For 3, I use that quite a lot. But you'll find that many beginners in coding get confused between linter errors, and exceptions raised during runtime
So I actually think it is nice that it doesn't auto-complete, lint, and type check
dusty apex
It's meant for beginners
i mean multiple cursors is needed becuase when you copy paste a string from google it dosent includes quotes and the lines are broken python will give error EOL error while scanning string literal
golden marsh
i actually use multiline cursors a lot but i think its a feature thats very complex for beginners to grasp
sage shuttle
i mean multiple cursors is needed becuase when you copy paste a string from goog...
So how does multiple cursors fix that?
sage shuttle
i actually use multiline cursors a lot but i think its a feature thats very comp...
Oooh, how?
golden marsh
golden marsh
Oooh, how?
its quicker than refactor or search-replace for renaming multiple things
its also really neat for quickly formatting data
sage shuttle
Ah, I rarely do that but I see
dusty apex
So how does multiple cursors fix that?
#code-help-voice-text message here a guys i was helping posted this
the multiple cursors made the formatting easy to
do
golden marsh
i tend to import CSV into a SQL database by multiline-cursoring it into a sql statement if i only need to do that once
things like that
sage shuttle
https://discord.com/channels/267624335836053506/755154969761677312/8750839030592...
But that's very advanced and not a needed for an editor to get started with
dusty apex
https://discord.com/channels/267624335836053506/755154969761677312/8750839030592...
bonus thing they were a beginner
sage shuttle
Okay, that's convenient but at the same time added complexity
dusty apex
Okay, that's *convenient* but at the same time added complexity
it reduces time
golden marsh
so does according to a lot of people
we are not saying that everyone thats a beginner will be confused by it, but on average its too rarely actually required and too hard to grasp to be beginner friendly
dusty apex
VIM's key bindings sucks
golden marsh
if they have worked with python in a simpler editor for a few months? sure, recommend them vscode, pycharm or even vim if you want.
dusty apex
the only good thing in VIM is terminal editing
sage shuttle
it reduces time
Exactly, that's convenient.. but it's not like "not having multiple cursors" will be the bottleneck in a beginner's coding
golden marsh
VIM's key bindings sucks
im not saying they dont, but they "reduce time" too when you know them
dusty apex
vim's has a lot of boundries too
golden marsh
vim's has a lot of boundries too
i dont care about vim, im using it as a example of a tool that a lot of people consider too complex to learn. thats the way pycharm will look like to beginners, overwhelming, a lot to learn, and generally not worth their time while learning the basics of programming
sage shuttle
Why do you think schools have students code on paper?
dusty apex
Exactly, that's convenient.. but it's not like "not having multiple cursors" wil...
yea but the thing you dont get is this that like i was helping a guy with discord.py and he was sending message copied from google and it was big it would have been a pain in ass to format it without multiple cursors, its just a helpful tool and all beginner ides should have them
wary fable
I can't be the only one who sees an eggplant
sage shuttle
yea but the thing you dont get is this that like i was helping a guy with discor...
Sure, it would've taken a long time. But that one-time you made him save time, is not a dealbraker for code editors
golden marsh
yea but the thing you dont get is this that like i was helping a guy with discor...
maybe its cool sometimes? how many people wont need it tho? its not that this single feature is too complex for beginners, its more the mindset. isnt a advanced refactoring tool much more useful? what about automatic venvs?
and then you end up with people being confused about a very complex piece of software when they actually just want to learn the language.
i have seen enough people ask about vscode/pycharm to know that recommending those to beginners is only gonna lead to frustration and questions
dusty apex
alright but here i understand that pycharm is a complex IDE but thonny is not also a good of a editor wouldn't the beginner have problems when they switch to pycharm from thonny because thonny key bindings are alot of different from all other ides
golden marsh
i think aa beginner wont endeavour to learn keybinds that much
sage shuttle
alright but here i understand that pycharm is a complex IDE but thonny is not al...
Wait what is this argument?
You think that someone shouldn't use Thonny, because when they switch to PyCharm they will have a bad time?
golden marsh
Wait what is this argument?
its that keybinds need to be relearned
sage shuttle
its that keybinds need to be relearned
Ah, I think that is the least of worries here :/
dusty apex
now you are counting a lot of exception, first the a beginner(launds argument) wont need multiple cursors becuase beginners dont deal those types of data, but i showed you guys two example of that type of data in a single day from a beginners, second key bindings are the reason i will not choose notepad over IDEs
golden marsh
now you are counting a lot of exception, first the a beginner(launds argument) w...
do you actually want me to find all examples of beginners being confused by pycharm
dusty apex
do you actually want me to find all examples of beginners being confused by pych...
no i am not saying pychamr is good for begginers
golden marsh
thats the entire point thos
dusty apex
i am saying thonny is not so much of a good IDE
golden marsh
pycharm is not good for beginners so dont recommend it
thonny is much simpler and therefore a bit better
sage shuttle
i am saying thonny is not so much of a good IDE
It really isn't, but it good and simple enough
I am not urging you to use it, but it's a good pick for someone starting out
misty sinew
i am saying thonny is not so much of a good IDE
Thonny is very basic even for beginners
dusty apex
i would say sublime text, sublime text is a better editor than thonny
sage shuttle
Ehhh, maybe. Sublime text has a lot of depth, but yeah it could be a good starting point.
The biggest issue I have with Sublime text is me lacking experience with it
dusty apex
The biggest issue I have with Sublime text is me lacking experience with it
is that even a issue?
peak frigate
i think that's likely blue's point
raven orbit
clojeu
halcyon notch
clojeure
faint snow
cloyure?
halcyon notch
halcyon notch
gotta go!
sage shuttle
is that even a issue?
Not really, but I can't recommend it when it has that much depth.
wary fable
peak frigate
somebody knows bs4 and pandas?
i personally don't but if you provide a specific question or sample code & errors you're getting you're more likely to get help
you should also try claiming a help channel once you have a more specific question #βο½how-to-get-help
peak frigate
you might have to try a couple or many times, depending on the availability of volunteers and also the quality of your question
wary fable
peak frigate
@finite summit show me a help thread you opened about pandas? I might be able to help. i can't help with bs4 tho
golden marsh
finite summit
<@!562777237309358112> show me a help thread you opened about pandas? I might be...
hm, i dont openned a topic for pandas, just bs4
finite summit
hm, i dont openned a topic for pandas, just bs4
but its with bs4 i can use the pandas correctly
golden marsh
peak frigate
but its with bs4 i can use the pandas correctly
i went thru your post history - you have code where you're importing pandas but you're not using any methods from the pandas library and no dataframes?
peak frigate
yeah i read all your posts. you import pandas as pd but your code doesn't use pandas at all so what is the help you need with pandas?
cunning pivot
sleek parrot
open osprey
can I share my screen for some help on some basic module importing?
I'm doing a tutorial with basic ttd
I'm able to talk but refraining from interrupting yall
hidden cliff
I'm able to talk but refraining from interrupting yall
iirc the folder has to have an __init__.py that re-exports the stack module
open osprey
hidden cliff
import stack
raven orbit
my captive
open osprey
what import is that
open osprey
ah shoot Geno is gone
from ds.stack import Stack
python3 -m pytest -v
______________________________ ERROR collecting datastruct/tests/test_stack.py ______________________________
ImportError while importing test module '/Users/jpurrutia/py-training/ttd/datastruct/tests/test_stack.py'.
Hint: make sure your test modules/packages have valid Python names.
Traceback:
/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/3.8/lib/python3.8/importlib/__init__.py:127: in import_module
return _bootstrap._gcd_import(name[level:], package, level)
datastruct/tests/test_stack.py:1: in <module>
from ds.stack import Stack
E ImportError: cannot import name 'Stack' from 'ds.stack' (/Users/jpurrutia/py-training/ttd/datastruct/ds/stack.py)
========================================== short test summary info ==========================================
ERROR datastruct/tests/test_stack.py
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Interrupted: 1 error during collection !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
============================================= 1 error in 0.11s =============================================```something = Stack()
that should give you constructed Stack object even if its dummy.
sleek parrot
Have you defeated the legacy tech or you are trying to reinstall it with Lost tech? @ember stream
sleek parrot
lol
sage shuttle
I think my headphones died π
full turret
OMG, IS THERE A BOT TO FIND PEP GUIDE STUFF?? i love this
random minnow
!pep 8
coarse hearthBOT
elder wraith
service_bus = AzureServiceBus(
connection_string = service_bus_options['connection_string'],
queue = service_bus_options['queue']
)````class AzureServiceBus:
def __init__(self, connection_string:str = None, queue:str = None):
if connection_string is None:
self.connection_string = os.getenv("az_servicebus_conn_string")
else:
self.connection_string = connection_string
if queue is None:
self.queue = os.getenv("az_servicebus_queue")
else:
self.queue = queue
self.client = ServiceBusClient.from_connection_string(self.connection_string)
self.sender = self.client.get_queue_sender(self.queue)
def put_on_queue(self, message:str) -> None:
"""Puts message on queue"""
self.sender.send_messages(ServiceBusMessage(message))
return None
Which service?
Oh service bus
Interesting in your talk rabbit π
What are you basically trying to do jake?
elder wraith
with ServiceBusClient.from_connection_string(conn_str=sb_config['connection_string']) as client:
#This will run forever just getting reactions off the queue
while True:
with client.get_queue_receiver(queue_name=sb_config['queue'],max_wait_time=10) as reciever:
for msg in reciever:
try:```from azure.servicebus import ServiceBusClient```Oh ok
elder wraith
str(msg.message)```reaction = json.loads(str(msg.message))```reciever.complete_message(msg)```reciever.abandon_message(msg)```So Abandon is just gonna send that message again?
unique raptor
no not again
blazing plank
Does message bus also like support making rooms, like websockets?like you could make message rooms
I lost internet in between, do the messages get sent synchronously 1 by 1 to each receiver or all messages to all of them?
@elder wraith bonk
hot path
I was also doing the same thing so thanks for the info and knowledge @elder wraith π
raven orbit
no not again
lol yes
blazing plank
Oh yes they jumping
Right
WTF did u do to time
Just put something else together, remove that numbers
elder wraith
blazing plank
So who gets first
Right
Ah got it
What would be good use cases for service bus, I am finding this interesting so wanted to make a quick project or something
Oh nice π thanks
Yeah
Getting it
Right, perfect
Yep
So like delivering app, you send delivery requests and they getting assigned
without getting duplicated
Yep
Oh yeah
I will give it a shot tomorrow
Ah nice
I love how you say that lmao
This is how service bus is cool
In short what are subscription and topics in service bus?
Like rooms?
Oh
Yeah get it, kind of
Right
I havenβt yet, just listening and getting bits and bits, will start to join them as I start working with it
Whatβs zepplinβs GitHub btw jake
And sorry for staying on mute, and making you wait for me to catch-up
Rabbit
sage shuttle
elder wraith
https://github.com/Dragory/ZeppelinBot
Jake, you could probably Kubernetes this
sleek parrot
RUN apt-get update && apt-get install -y \
aufs-tools \
automake \
build-essential \
curl \
all\
your\
other\
packages\
&& rm -rf /var/lib/apt/lists/*
self.input_field = QtWidgets.QTextEdit()
self.input_field.setMarkdown("```python\nfor x in range():\n```")
!code
coarse hearthBOT
true valley
Backticks are a deprecated alias for repr(). Don't use them any more, the syntax was removed in Python 3.0.
dusty apex
self.input_field = QtWidgets.QTextEdit()
self.input_field.setMarkdown("repr(```python\nfor x in range():\n```)")
true valley
self.input_field.setMarkdown("repr(python\nfor x in range():\n)")
true valley
true valley
cosmic lynx
Hi, would anyone be able to hop in Code/Help 1 for a minute? I'm trying to sort my python files with no success and it's just getting muddled while typing.
?
hasty plover
i wanna unblock the chat voices people! :,c
How i can do that? Help!
Any advice for that?
peak frigate
Any advice for that?
!voice read the embed below
coarse hearthBOT
dusty apex
@barren plover do you need help?
dusty apex
voice suppression
!voice
coarse hearthBOT
barren plover
!voice
yes i can hear you
i was looking for some future advices
i am a young developer
yes
barren plover
Ok i will move there. Thanks though
dusty apex
okay bye
peak frigate
!voice read the embed below
coarse hearthBOT
grand glacier
friends
i will not be able to speak π¦
is anyone good with django/docker
lmao
push to talk doesnt work on web version
peak frigate
yeah
misty sinew
u see my mic is shit
im sorry
many problems
like
wires are coming out of it
red and blue
misty sinew
bro
peak frigate
and spare us please
peak frigate
i think your gain is way too high
peak frigate
but again, don't test on us.
misty sinew
i went into sound settings
peak frigate
test in your settings
peak frigate
@misty sinew never test on this discord server again please
test in your own settings gdi
peak frigate
i DIDNT mute you
that's the problem
so when your mic suddenly turns to shit, it literally hurts
peak frigate
you are responsible for your equipment
peak frigate
coarse hearthBOT
@hearty heath :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.
3.141592653589793 6.283185307179586
!e py import math print(math.pi / math.tau)
coarse hearthBOT
@unborn prairie :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.
0.5
Probably rounded.
unborn prairie
!e py print(0.1 + 0.2 == 0.3)
coarse hearthBOT
@unborn prairie :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.
False
Basically any fractional number that has any number except 2 in the denominator.
Because numbers are represented in binary.
unborn prairie
!e py print(0.1 +0.2)
coarse hearthBOT
@unborn prairie :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.
0.30000000000000004
Hello π
peak frigate
!e py import math print(math.pi * 2 == math.tau)
coarse hearthBOT
@peak frigate :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.
True
Hello @fallen cape π
hearty heath
That's like, half a bachelors, right?
hearty heath
Can you do a degree program that starts as an associates degree with the option to switch to a bachelors? Not sure how it works.
sleek parrot
unborn prairie
0.1 in binary is 0.00Μ 0Μ 1Μ 1Μ
hearty heath
Linkedin has some statistics I think?
stuck bluff
Mina: Careers Counselor. Strike a pose.
hearty heath
peak frigate
Mina: Careers Counselor. Strike a pose.
if only someone could help me with mine lol
hearty heath
Wow Mina
peak frigate
lmaooo
hearty heath
Too good for us
carmine flame
Bruh
peak frigate
πππππ
hearty heath
There are plenty of people in this server who are employed as software developers without having a degree.
hearty heath
!otn add queen mina and the peasants π€
warm tendon
β
hearty heath
Nahh
unborn prairie
otn minas im better than you club
hearty heath
Well, college just means university right.
Yeah, you apply to study a particular degree. We don't really have majors.
So if you applied to study physics, you would study just physics from the start of your degree.
Maybe with a couple of external options in the first year.
unborn prairie
well some unis do have minor and majors
hearty heath
I find European universities are a lot less paternalistic than in the US.
unborn prairie
so 120 ects for one and 60 for the other
unborn prairie
but yeah for the most part its just one degree
hearty heath
And there aren't any general education requirements.
peak frigate
that's nice tbh lol
hearty heath
The idea of being required to take physical education classes at university is completely foreign.
peak frigate
if you work quickly, you could do away with most of your gened credits in high school with AP or IB scores, and graduate 1 to 1.5 years early
unborn prairie
lol but thats not the us system
anyone that wants to read the maths exam i had to take
(its german but i can translate if you want me to)
misty sinew
yo
hearty heath
The maths exams I took at university were so much harder, but with much less calculation.
