voice-chat-text-1

[wooden dome]

one in vc 1

one in vc 2

@storm ferry is this you @stone quarry ?

Both of you got similar name

and joined at the same time on both VC

[storm ferry]

I am not them

[wooden dome]

Yeah

You are YOu

https://tenor.com/view/sigma-face-chad-face-sigma-chad-chad-sigma-gif-7645668080398857129

mask on chad is new trend I guess?

[stuck bluff]

https://tenor.com/view/isitthechad-charliesangles-sad-onenightstand-gif-9871941

https://tenor.com/view/charlies-angels-drew-barrymore-chad-might-be-guess-gif-8424940

https://tenor.com/view/charlies-angels-chad-tom-green-food-drop-not-thinking-straight-gif-8424952

[wooden dome]

wdym by escape from reality Opal?

I hope you are not alone and helpless

Once upon a time there used to be two Monster.
One choose to go east and other to west to explore world

monster which goes to east choose to explore world

monster which goes to west choose to explore as well

but one of them were hungry

hungry to get identity

so west monster choose to make deal with stranger

he offer the wishes to be true in return he takes the control of body

but monster hunger didn't end

monster eat the man from inside

now the same monster choose to make another deal with stranger

and again same happens

the cycle continues, and no one left in village on west side

monster from west and monster from east meet each other at same spot

monster from east asked what did you explore?

monster from west told I explore everything and devour the stranger for identity

so monster from east asked whats your identity

monster from west told "you!"

and he devour the another monster

and was all alone

in despair

Western Monster is nothing but Ego

Eastern Monster is empty being

[misty sinew]

https://youtu.be/fnQA-1qlgI4?si=hTocYH5gZXA_2-J-

You took the story from here, don't you?

[wooden dome]

Yes

[glad turtle]

@delicate wren if you write this in a markdown document in forgejo, does it render with proper syntax highlighting for python?
because for me in gitea it does not.

\`\`\`py
\`\`\`

[wooden dome]

# This is a comment
def add(a, b):
    return a + b

print(add(2, 3))

Yep it does

[glad turtle]

here on discord it may, but what about forgejo

[glad turtle]

you use forgejo?

[wooden dome]

It should work

use full name

python

not just py

[glad turtle]

@wooden dome look at my screen

[delicate wren]

@glad turtle show your source code for the .md

[glad turtle]

@wooden dome see the left side and the right side

[delicate wren]

@glad turtle which Gitea version?

[glad turtle]

the block has python, but it doesn't render as such

lemme check

[wooden dome]

Uh

[delicate wren]

@glad turtle it's written in the footer

@glad turtle use env_file for secrets

[glad turtle]

I will, but since this is in a Tailscale.. nobody's going to have any luck getting in

[glad turtle]

1.22.3

[delicate wren]

@glad turtle can you try with a gitea-dark theme?

just to check if it's the cause

[glad turtle]

lemme check

[delicate wren]

@glad turtle it's in user settings

[wooden dome]

If UEFI's solution won't work try this out:

1. Toggle the highlight in config as admin you can

[delicate wren]

@glad turtle what are you using to render TeX?

[glad turtle]

no change after changing theme

[glad turtle]

basic mathjax

[delicate wren]

how does it look like in source?

[glad turtle]

wdym?

[delicate wren]

the markdown file source, the maths part

[glad turtle]

look at line 91 on the left side

regular mathjax with $$

[delicate wren]

okay so it's not an extension

, since it works for me too

hmm

idk why but it works in my case

both

[glad turtle]

and you're using forgejo or gitea?

[wooden dome]

try this out

[delicate wren]

@cunning urchin
example 1: they send the recording

[wooden dome]

maybe it could be false

[cunning urchin]

yes i understood

[wooden dome]

or cache must be trolling you

[delicate wren]

also yes, built-in stuff

[glad turtle]

to whom?

[delicate wren]

just an extra example of how you might know

it's like with "how do you know this alt is a user of someone else?" -- "they literally admit it"

Discord does warn you if people if clipping enabled join

but not well enough

[wooden dome]

To be honest sometimes it is browser which trolls you

[glad turtle]

nope, no browser, regular discord client

[delicate wren]

@glad turtle are you connecting over HTTPS? self-signed?

[glad turtle]

self-signed HTTPS

[delicate wren]

check in dev tools if some requests are failing, just to make sure that's not the reason

you should have a clean log with no errors or warnings

[glad turtle]

will check now

[wooden dome]

okay do this

click f12

and look for error

[delicate wren]

@cunning urchin VM?

[glad turtle]

no errors, console empty

[cunning urchin]

ye

but its not working in my side

[wooden dome]

Damn no error

Could you check app.ini

look if it is enabled

[glad turtle]

how do i know if it's enabled

[wooden dome]

[markup]
ENABLE_HIGHLIGHT = true
STYLE = dracula

look for line

it will be true if not make it true

[glad turtle]

i just tried but can't see change

[delicate wren]

@glad turtle maybe those pandoc options do something wrong?

[delicate wren]

where did you get ENABLE_HIGHLIGHT from?

[glad turtle]

from @wooden dome above
but when i check the gitea docs it's not even there https://docs.gitea.com/administration/config-cheat-sheet

[delicate wren]

1.22
https://docs.gitea.com/1.22/administration/config-cheat-sheet

[glad turtle]

where'd you get this from? the official docs don't mention ENABLE_HIGHLIGHT

[delicate wren]

but, yes, neither has that

[wooden dome]

Ah I messed up

I was refering to older fork document

my bad

it auto enables it on compile time

[delicate wren]

@glad turtle can you try running without markup.markdown customisations?

[glad turtle]

yeah just a sec

[wooden dome]

Hmm I think it won't change much

[delicate wren]

link?

[glad turtle]

looks like disabling the pandoc did it 🙂

but i do want the pandoc tho. actually do i need pandoc? my mathjax is still working even without it

[delicate wren]

(that is why I was asking about this)

[glad turtle]

why was i even using pandoc?

[delicate wren]

I've done customised rendering before but it was for .ipynb

the example from docs for jupyter rendering is horrible

[glad turtle]

i try to stay stock 99% of the time. this is an exception.

[wooden dome]

https://github.com/gogs/gogs/issues/1712

It was my bad

[glad turtle]

yeah but this is gogs and i'm using gitea..

it's all good

[delicate wren]

Gogs isn't a fork, Gitea is

[wooden dome]

I misunderstood

[glad turtle]

@delicate wren @wooden dome thank you for looking into this with me

[wooden dome]

It isn't fork, I messed up.

I'm sorry

[delicate wren]

I wonder if Gitea has other big related projects

[glad turtle]

@delicate wren i'm looking at SOS DP. i'm trying to take baby-steps approach so i can grasp what's going on without having my head spinning at 100km/h.

[wooden dome]

syntax worked out?

[delicate wren]

I'm only aware of the main Gogs->Gitea->Forgejo bloodline

[glad turtle]

audible wants me to pay bezos so he can send tourists in space

[wooden dome]

@glad turtle syntax highlight is fixed?

[delicate wren]

by removing parts of config

[glad turtle]

yes sir, it was the pandoc, thank you for looking into this with me

[wooden dome]

Hehe

I'm really sorry

@delicate wren You sure know a lot about it!

[delicate wren]

I've worked with Gitea since 2020

[wooden dome]

Ah I see!

[delicate wren]

(when I deployed it on a remote server using a phone)

I think I was already doing certbot stuff back then but not sure

[wooden dome]

Hmm

Good to know!

Have you used in commercial project?

or just limited to personal?

[delicate wren]

we use Forgejo at work

upgraded from Gitea, previously migrated from GitLab

[wooden dome]

Uh

You are pro at it

Well It was right call by IkO to contact you on this very matter!

I should have been quite.

[glad turtle]

i think the hypercube explanation is a bit much.. he could've just stayed in bitmask land..

like bitmask_{n-1} -> bitmask_{n}

[delicate wren]

hmm

[glad turtle]

@reef granite https://kostka.dev/sp/spbook.pdf page 111

the thing starts at 107

[delicate wren]

currently reading https://codeforces.com/blog/entry/45223

seems related

@glad turtle if I understand correctly this is kind of an N-dimensional sum problem, just a very special case

0<=coordinate<=0 on some axes and 0<=coordinate<=1 on others

that is a funny note

[glad turtle]

i have a feel for the pre-requisites. i mean of course, the word "basic" can have many meanings but yeah

[delicate wren]

I'm not going to read past the Prerequisite[s] header

[misty sinew]

Never heard about it, I'm curious to know. what exactly is it?

[glad turtle]

fork of gitea

[delicate wren]

@glad turtle are we aiming for O(2**N * (addition complexity)) to compute the entirety of F?

rather than O(N * 2 ** N * (addition complexity))

because N * 2 ** N sounds nearly naively doable

[misty sinew]

I have no clue about it!

Completely alien concept to me

why would someone need it?

[delicate wren]

GitHub is closed-source, Bitbucket is shit, GitLab is fine but overcomplicated/feature-lacking at times

[glad turtle]

i have to read the codeforces blog post first, will be able to answer later on

[delicate wren]

(Bitbucket is also closed-source, but that's less important)

Gitea/Forgejo have wider package support than their alternatives

also they use same CI as GitHub but with native Go actions support

[misty sinew]

Confused!

[delicate wren]

https://forgejo.org/docs/latest/user/packages/

[misty sinew]

Is it like google docs?

[delicate wren]

it's primarily like GitHub

[misty sinew]

GitHub?

[delicate wren]

the Hub of Gits

[misty sinew]

I think the only way to find out about it is using it

[delicate wren]

ugh

I expected better

okay then I'm not actually interested

[glad turtle]

brb, i heard there might be some pie in the kitchen

[delicate wren]

@glad turtle unlabeled box arrived

I didn't expect them to shove it all inside one package

(it didn't fit, although by the state of the box I can see they tried)

[glad turtle]

looks good, you get a bit of dopamine when you receive a package. i do as well

[delicate wren]

state of the box being:

also, classic aliexpress customs declaration:
development board, 2 pieces

for 2 poe hats and 1 computer

reminds of how they declared Milk-V Jupiter as $20 in value

vibe accounting

[wooden dome]

Hello

anyone here can help me out?

I was curious to switch to linux!

but I like how windows CMD look

I prefer pitch black as main theme because my laptop has Oled Screen and it looks sick!

So any suggestion?

[glad turtle]

Debian Trixie + (Gnome | Sway)

[wooden dome]

Any source to have a look at it?

[glad turtle]

well you've seen my stream, that's how it looks

Sway is minimalistic

Gnome is very basic, looks a lot like Windows

[wooden dome]

Let have a look again

[glad turtle]

I can open up as many terminals as I need

[wooden dome]

Good

but how about overall gnome?

can it have base color as pitch black?

[glad turtle]

wdym by that?

do you mean night mode, like dark mode?

[wooden dome]

Windows has done remarkable job at UI interface of CMD simple yet comfortable black

I would like to have same theme as this but from terminal to system

[glad turtle]

xfce4 and sway have this by default.. i think gnome too

[wooden dome]

I have try it out

[glad turtle]

to system?

[wooden dome]

I mean overall UI of system

GNOME

or ELSE

[glad turtle]

"UI of system" can mean many things. the browser is independent of the system, it has its own extensions that give you dark mode.

[wooden dome]

App launcher, menu, etc

almost all

but third party app

[glad turtle]

the answer is yes, you can get pitch black

[wooden dome]

which kind of black is it?

It is soft to eye

unlike discord pitch black

[glad turtle]

either way, what apps do you need apart from pdf/ebook reader,browser,terminal,discord.
anything else is overkill.

[wooden dome]

You right about it1

but theme matters to me

I would like to make it as good as the color scheme of the cmd windows

Debian bookworm has rich feature for it @glad turtle ?

I mean I have not decided distro yet

let alone tweaks for distro

because of limited knowledge

[glad turtle]

be specific what feature? also upgrade to trixie since it's the successor of bookworm..

[glad turtle]

i generally avoid tweaks. i mainly use defaults and stock configs.

[wooden dome]

Hmm

But is possible?

[glad turtle]

always possible, but hard to justify the time spent on them.

[wooden dome]

You right

but is big deal for me

I would like to invest my free time in it

ain't it good?

Let me prepare usb for dual boot

I would like to get help so can I add you as fellow friend?

I hope I'm not being selfish and annoying about it!

[glad turtle]

are you sure you want pitch black? isn't what you want the red-ish warm color temperature in the evening and the more blue-ish during day-time?
that't the thing that's supposed to help your eyes.
they even have an app for it, but it's now a feature in Gnome as well as other Desktop Managers.
https://justgetflux.com/linux.html

[wooden dome]

I'm not sure but I do think I do like pitch black, I would try alternative as well

thankyou for suggestion1

[terse sierra]

hmmm a box of microcontrollers ? @delicate wren

[delicate wren]

poe hat, poe hat and a computer

[terse sierra]

oh which ones , something new ??? @delicate wren

[delicate wren]

https://milkv.io/duo-s

[terse sierra]

wow thats new

[terse sierra]

looking looking @delicate wren

so a remote compute node ? @delicate wren

[wooden dome]

@shrewd sonnet Hello Osama

[wooden dome]

You should use AI and describe the intend of website it may filter the official

which website are you looking for?

https://www.waverai.org/

maybe this is official

[shrewd sonnet]

https://youtu.be/2uJoe0MaXho?t=1047

[wooden dome]

Okay I understood

you are looking for official bytedance

[shrewd sonnet]

👍

[wooden dome]

https://github.com/FoundationVision/Waver?tab=readme-ov-file#waver-10

This is official repo for it

I don't know if it end to end software

but it seems it is not

@shrewd sonnet

Any other website which charges you money and has waver1 or else a domain is likely to be scam site

avoid it at all cost

[wooden dome]

This is legit

my assurance

China is slap to US

despite chip restriction they are publishing the latest model with open source

[misty sinew]

https://youtu.be/CrJJPlRO9bI?si=RCy5TqPR32rO7gnn
As explained by, yes it is impressive

[glad turtle]

it's interesting that the US wants to base their entire Economy on something that China may best them in.

but the whole narrative of the "AI race" is total bs..

[wooden dome]

Indeed

Short term goal is much important for US over long term

restricting china pushes china for self dependent measure in long run

it has already achieved success in Semi conductor manufacturing

which was unexpected

[wooden dome]

Tea party of trump

[glad turtle]

US needs researchers and smart people, which it doesn't have enough and which it gets primarily from China (but also other places).
China needs bleeding-edge tech, which it can only get from Nvidia which is US-based.
There's a mutual dependency (and it's not the only one).
So the entire "AI race" is complete bullshit.

If you look at most of the AI talent in the US right now, a lot of them are Chinese.

[glad turtle]

This is very relevant.

[misty sinew]

I found it in my YouTube feed

Alongside

This video

https://youtu.be/orQKfIXMiA8?si=-KCrnKCVdoYqkjer

Maybe my feed is really good lately

[wooden dome]

I'll be back

[delicate wren]

@glad turtle PoE is alive

had to make a shorter cable

(first time doing wiring on something that transfers power)

this time without wasted pieces of cable

[delicate wren]

and so is Jupiter

[delicate wren]

I somehow just exist on-prem without hosting my stuff on the cloud (other than GitHub)

@vale tinsel Forgejo is trivial to setup but, yeah, if you don't need that shouldn't bother yet

it is quite useful for storing stuff like Docker images

if that's what you ever deploy

@vale tinsel it also functions as a package server

https://forgejo.org/docs/latest/user/packages/

@raven flint https://forgejo.org/docs/latest/user/packages/container/ this is extremely useful

because

1. Docker Hub has rate limits for pulls
2. Docker Hub has rate limits for storage

@vale tinsel Docker is the only sane way to install Forgejo or any software at all

[raven flint]

trueeee

[delicate wren]

never put it inside a VM

(containers are more efficient than VMs and easier to provision)

at times even more secure

(if done right)

((Linux's way isn't necessarily right))

are you Windows or Linux?

as the host

container installation is, like, copy compose.yml, docker compose up, done

yeah, for dev it's fine to do either way

code on host, DB inside a container

not necessarily both in a container

[delicate wren]

or don't even use a DB service, and go SQLite happy life

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rlATWBNvMw

yes

Rails has gradually gotten better SQLite integration

yeah, Rails now too

if it doesn't include device drivers, it's not fullstack enough

"DHH can claim to be a true fullstack engineer now that he maintains his own Linux distro"

I have it open right now

[delicate wren]

based on Arch Linux

https://omarchy.org/

it also comes with Rails aliases built-in

[delicate wren]

.

how I normally choose:
do I want it to autosave?
no -> Sublime
yes -> VSCode

just because I have stuff configured that way accidentally

well this is unfortunate

an ICE

explodes during compilation

I have no idea what it uses

it's some random dev env for an embedded system

probably gcc

though maybe clang

LLVM

GCC was before LLVM afaik

and Zig is trying to replace LLVM with their own thing,
so not all C compilers do LLVM

I'm building for riscv musl, so it's more likely to use Clang over GCC

Clang is slightly more musl-friendly

RISC-V is a CPU architecture

musl is an alternative to glibc

Alpine is another place where you might see musl being used

Alpine Linux

glibc is part of many Linux distros

Debian, for example

however Alpine doesn't have it

(by default)

[vale tinsel]

I see

I haven't used much C to be experienced in it

It is a cool language though

[delicate wren]

that's a very old Python

[raven flint]

🤣

[glad turtle]

musicians

[floral spruce]

Guys I had to go to grind naruto gamr

Also can someone help me with my homework?

[keen compass]

print: homework

tf

let chatgpt do the work

[floral spruce]

Dev im not cheating

Dont worry

I just need proper guidance

[true charm]

I try to make the catos in this

[umbral rose]

!stream 1301206198787506297

[coarse hearth]

✅ @floral spruce can now stream until <t:1757205887:f>.

[delicate wren]

... even with VPN

@glad turtle eMMC partition extension is so far non-trivial

having to rebuild the image

[glad turtle]

yes, I mean eMMC is great. my only gripe with it is when it dies that it cannot be replaced, and as such, knowing its wearout is important.

but maybe my situation was atypical, which is I have an old 2012 x86 tablet, that can ONLY boot from eMMC, so that's why I cared about it so much.

[delicate wren]

yeah, no trust in aliexpress-bought storage

peak ubuntu experience

[glad turtle]

I just realized my linux install game is falling short.
In my case if I'm installing Linux and the network card(wifi + wired) does not have a driver, I don't know what I would be doing.
I mean in my case I'd use a USB hub with ethernet. But if that were not available what would I be doing?

[vale tinsel]

hahahaha

I don't like debian cuz of this same issue

[zinc rain]

@umbral rose Hello long time no see , Between i finally made the secure auth in Django , I might surely have grown a white beard by now

Also my mic is broke and keyboard too , any suggestions on keyboard wireless one

[reef granite]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piece_table

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gap_buffer

!pep 541

[coarse hearth]

**PEP 541 - Package Index Name Retention**

Status

Final

Created

12-Jan-2017

Type

Process

[delicate wren]

sounds like can't just have yearly CI running a single test on latest Python to be good enough for not-abandoned unless that CI also produces a release

[glad turtle]

Truly incredible that we have such memes here. I did not think something like this would be possible. This is a milestone, no doubt.

[torn lotus]

yea - i thoughever did not create it

i am simply a messenger

[delicate wren]

there is indeed a bit of truth to this given how shit teslas are on the inside

one of the lowest quality brands

it's like with OracleDB

the product is dying but pretending not to

also next time consider at least censoring out slurs before posting

[delicate wren]

btw, in reality "can choose whatever" actually happens more with enterprise software like what Atlassian and Oracle make, where the client asks for some weird use case and now everyone else has to deal with how it doesn't fit with the rest of the application

[novel wave]

#bot-commands

@umbral rose which uni are you from?

[frail hamlet]

@stuck bluff I dont have permission to speak :?

[novel wave]

haha

@tender sand which browser do you use?

[tender sand]

firefox

why

[novel wave]

just like that

[tender sand]

I think you've probably pinged enough people now asking what their browser is, so I'd take a pause on it now

[novel wave]

I agree

someone else also likes to ping a lot of people @tender sand

[tender sand]

lol, not solely my account

and doesn't stop your pinging from being annoying here

[glad turtle]

he needs attention

[tender sand]

lol, i figured

[umbral rose]

Discord vc seems messed up

I cannot connect

Seems like it's back now

[sly pond]

I couldn't even load the server yesterday

[stuck bluff]

@proper jetty 👋

!voice

[coarse hearth]

Voice verification

Can’t talk in voice chat? Check out #voice-verification to get access. The criteria for verifying are specified there.

[proper jetty]

@stuck bluff 👋

[stuck bluff]

I have been talking, are you able to hear me?

[stuck bluff]

@high thunder 👋

@cold zealot 👋

!voice

[coarse hearth]

Voice verification

Can’t talk in voice chat? Check out #voice-verification to get access. The criteria for verifying are specified there.

[stuck bluff]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euphonium

[tacit jetty]

https://github.com/Kryptycon-Code/Assignment2/blob/main/KryptAppFile(WIP).py

[stuck bluff]

!pep8

[coarse hearth]

PEP 8

PEP 8 is the official style guide for Python. It includes comprehensive guidelines for code formatting, variable naming, and making your code easy to read. Professional Python developers are usually required to follow the guidelines, and will often use code-linters like flake8 to verify that the code they're writing complies with the style guide.

More information:

• PEP 8 document
• Our PEP 8 song! :notes:

[stuck bluff]

!zen

[coarse hearth]

The Zen of Python, by Tim Peters

Beautiful is better than ugly.
Explicit is better than implicit.
Simple is better than complex.
Complex is better than complicated.
Flat is better than nested.
Sparse is better than dense.
Readability counts.
Special cases aren't special enough to break the rules.
Although practicality beats purity.
Errors should never pass silently.
Unless explicitly silenced.
In the face of ambiguity, refuse the temptation to guess.
There should be one-- and preferably only one --obvious way to do it.
Although that way may not be obvious at first unless you're Dutch.
Now is better than never.
Although never is often better than right now.
If the implementation is hard to explain, it's a bad idea.
If the implementation is easy to explain, it may be a good idea.
Namespaces are one honking great idea -- let's do more of those!

[stuck bluff]

@raven granite 👋

[raven granite]

yo

[stuck bluff]

@wraith grail 👋

@wraith grail 👋

[wraith grail]

Can tou un mute me

[wraith grail]

Can you un mute me

[stuck bluff]

!voice

[coarse hearth]

Voice verification

Can’t talk in voice chat? Check out #voice-verification to get access. The criteria for verifying are specified there.

[wraith grail]

Ok

[raven granite]

is this for begginers?

no the discussion i mean

[glad turtle]

@raven granite are you looking for advanced topics?

[raven granite]

no..

: D basic

[stuck bluff]

@prime forge 👋

@sage quarry 👋

@left oyster 👋

[grave abyss]

@glad turtle

[leaden minnow]

@leaden minnow

[glad turtle]

@grave abyss https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/5.2/topics/cache/#redis

[delicate wren]

mandatory mention: Rails no longer defaults to caching with Redis

now they're SQLite'ing all the way

I wonder if Django will get there too

[misty sinew]

@glad turtle best way to backup?

[delicate wren]

zfs send/zfs receive

[misty sinew]

He is chasing short term goals

As a fresher you should just apply because very few care about how skilled you are, unless you are aiming for senior or special role

I'll be honest very few care about it!

@glad turtle I'm certain those very job openings have at least 1 year experience in prerequisites

[glad turtle]

the senior fresher

[misty sinew]

Nah special role like Data Engineering or ML engineers, or Firmware developer or else.
They look after skill in depth

Especially Nvidia

They hire fresher

[delicate wren]

"all Rust devs are hired as seniors, there are no other levels of a Rust developer"

[misty sinew]

Really?

[delicate wren]

it's a joke but it is based on reality

1. it's a difficult language
2. many people writing Rust use it because they got tired of some other language being terrible

[misty sinew]

I think the main problem with him is that he is selling himself not his skills. @glad turtle

[glad turtle]

there's no point in selling anything. just study, do projects.

[misty sinew]

He would be talking about a django, fastapi, docker or else.

But mention of the project and discussion was limited

Like a sales man talking about blah blah certifications to convenience buyers to buy anything ( one time deal (short term))

[misty sinew]

He ain't selling products or skill but he is just collecting multiple accomplishment with no master in one!

@glad turtle He ain't going to college, he graduated from normal college with a certificate course in BSCCS.

And he is hunting jobs

[glad turtle]

why is he lying then?

[misty sinew]

@wooden dome He told me about him, I asked me a while ago

[misty sinew]

Idk maybe too insecure about it

[glad turtle]

it would be a good answer for recruiters though
"what are you doing?"
"well, i am going to college"

[misty sinew]

In India colleges have poor quality of education, he has no hands on skill.
It is just paper knowledge

@grave abyss wdym?

[glad turtle]

well.. colleges/universities will never keep up with the industry

[grave abyss]

@misty sinew Which account is this

[misty sinew]

I have no alt account.
I got to know about you because of bigfootcancode.

[grave abyss]

Your Account is LetItbe,Right

[misty sinew]

Idk

[grave abyss]

WHO is HE

[misty sinew]

@wooden dome

Ask him!

[grave abyss]

I DON't KNOW HIM

YOU ARE LIAR

@misty sinew

[misty sinew]

I ain't lair

[grave abyss]

YOU WERE BANNED FROM THIS DISCORD CHANNEL

jigar aGUPTa

WHere are YOU FROM ?

[misty sinew]

Bhutan

[grave abyss]

@glad turtle
HE IS RIGHT
I JUST Graduated , But i am going in institution for 3 month course

i just don't want to explain all of this

so i just said college ,Thats it

[glad turtle]

guys, i don't care

go study, practice

[wooden dome]

@misty sinew Why did you ping me?

[grave abyss]

@wooden dome WHO TOLD YOU THIS ?

[glad turtle]

stop hopping on discord like "bro, i wanna use redis; bro i wanna use redis but i need to integrate it with django"

[wooden dome]

about what?

[glad turtle]

just do it already, you have the docs, do it

https://tenor.com/view/do-it-what-are-you-waiting-for-determined-angry-gif-5247874

what.are.you.waiting.for

do.it

[grave abyss]

@wooden dome MR @misty sinew told me , you told things about me
DO YOU EVEN KNOW ME

[wooden dome]

Yes I do

[glad turtle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXsQAXx_ao0

yesterday you said tomorrow

[grave abyss]

WHO TOLD YOU @wooden dome things about me

i don't know who you are

[misty sinew]

@glad turtle Discipline > Motivation 💀

[glad turtle]

@grave abyss make your dreams come true. just do it.

nothing is impossible

you should get to the point where anyone else would quit and you're not gonna stop there

yes you can

just do it

[wooden dome]

check ur dm.

[grave abyss]

@glad turtle

MY problem is not with you

my problem is with @wooden dome and @misty sinew

how came they know about me

i only spoke with person about this

It's another guy, who is banned from the discord channel

JIgarGupta now his name is Letitbe

[delicate wren]

ah, yes, Discord, thanks for this much of unscrollable barely visible gradient

[glad turtle]

this argument is a waste of time

[wooden dome]

I've explained to you in DM.
Pls no further dicussion!

[grave abyss]

@glad turtle

[umbral compass]

why cant i speak in vc

[delicate wren]

!voice

[coarse hearth]

Voice verification

Can’t talk in voice chat? Check out #voice-verification to get access. The criteria for verifying are specified there.

[umbral compass]

?/

voice in the sense

ohhh

ok

[vale tinsel]

hey @delicate wren

miss me?

[delicate wren]

still working on this #voice-chat-text-0 message

[limber anvil]

e! ```py
print("hello everyone")

e! ```py
print ("hello everyone")

Mmmmm why is the code not running? what am I doing wrong guys?

[delicate wren]

!e not e!

[delicate wren]

seemingly done

[limber anvil]

Ah , I'm a noob. Thanks @delicate wren

[limber anvil]

!e ```py
print("hello everyone")

[coarse hearth]

:white_check_mark: Your 3.13 eval job has completed with return code 0.

hello everyone

[misty sinew]

Let's learn some python?

[limber anvil]

Ye sir.

I am in the coursera course right now.

hi @umbral rose

I dont have speak permissions yet lol

[delicate wren]

I'm in the forest again

[limber anvil]

I have no experience in coding. So I am starting from the very beginning

[delicate wren]

(the less dark half of it)

[limber anvil]

Py is first language 🙂

Some people are now starting with vibe coding.

[delicate wren]

@umbral rose idk, I was born with Pascal knowledge

"vibe" "coding"

[limber anvil]

I am guilty, I had a replit subscription lol.

[delicate wren]

isn't coding also a medical term

[limber anvil]

it is?

Oh man hahah.

life language

how long have you been coding?

[delicate wren]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coding_(therapy)

this was not easy to find

[limber anvil]

That's crazy lol.

Anything cool you are working on?

like for gaming? I have heard that term in Nvidia graphics cards.

Like graphics animations?

[umbral rose]

#voice-chat-text-0 message

[limber anvil]

Interesting. My main Career is Video, Premiere, Aftereffects and all that good stuff. :v

Let me check it out

[misty sinew]

I think he can for sure

[limber anvil]

Oh damn this is crazy. What is the end goal functionality for it?

Can py do animation stuff aswell? or would that be another language like the one you guys created?

[delicate wren]

@umbral rose oc2py when

can be pronounced octopi (plural of octopus)

[limber anvil]

Interesting. So Py solely runs on CPU? It dosen't natively support GPU wihtout a third party library?

sorry for all the noob questions lol

[delicate wren]

@pale pivot jupyter kernel for Ocen when?
perfectly sane test pipeline solution

I'm now realising this is somewhat doable because Cling already exists

(interactive Clang)

I might've overestimated how cold it was outside

[limber anvil]

I am burning in the sun. Hot weather over here.

[delicate wren]

jacket+sweater is an overkill for 12°C

[limber anvil]

87° F here.

[delicate wren]

(the main concern was that if I dress too lightly I might get even more ill than I already am)

.wa s 87 f to c

[ocean orbit]

Wolfram Alpha

30.56 °C (degrees Celsius)

[limber anvil]

Yea, US we measure everything in football fields and cheeseburgers hahhaha

[delicate wren]

@misty urchin macros macros macros

if it's possible to use a macro and it's also impossible to just do normal functions, generally

[lucid shale]

Heyo

[delicate wren]

don't overly confuse people and tools

[lucid shale]

Has anyone here used Jupyter before?

[delicate wren]

(non-disjoint categories)

[misty sinew]

@limber anvil How much have you learnt about Python?

[delicate wren]

currently have a jupyter hub server running

[lucid shale]

I am having trouble installing it

[delicate wren]

Docker

[lucid shale]

What

[delicate wren]

the less painful way to do jupyter stuff

[limber anvil]

@misty sinew I am at the very beginnign bro, Variables and expressions.

[lucid shale]

is there a way to install it normally? I need it like that for a class

[misty sinew]

okay

[lucid shale]

Like through the cmd prompt

[delicate wren]

what step is the problem happening at and what is the problem exactly?

[misty sinew]

is it tricky?

[lucid shale]

Okay so I am going to my cmd prompt to download it using "pip install jupyterlab"

It seems like it downloads for a little and then spits an error out at me

lemme get a screenie

[limber anvil]

So far is simple @misty sinew

[delicate wren]

your python is outdated

EOLd even

[limber anvil]

What are you laerning now @misty sinew

[misty sinew]

Good

[misty sinew]

Nothing

[delicate wren]

this is 3.8, latest is 3.13; 3.13 isn't compatible with everything, so check beforehand what you're going to install

also don't use pip, use py -m pip

[lucid shale]

Got it

Is there a way to install Jupyter with python 3.8?

[delicate wren]

need to specify an older version of jupyter

preferably, also using a venv

[misty urchin]

usually it's easier to upgrade python than to intentionally use an old version

[delicate wren]

if you install jupyter to use packages like numpy, you really should upgrade to at least 3.10

[misty urchin]

is there a reason you don't want to upgrade?

[delicate wren]

you can also just have two versions installed

3.8 as default and 3.12/3.13 as extra

[misty urchin]

yes

[lucid shale]

I'm helping a friend on this project and I am pretty sure this is the version he was instructed to use by his university

[delicate wren]

so it becomes py -3.13 -m pip

[misty urchin]

ah

[delicate wren]

then the friend needs to ask the university for the exact jupyter version required

[misty urchin]

or rather the instructor

[delicate wren]

preferably in the form of requirements.txt generated from pip freeze

[lucid shale]

Got it

[delicate wren]

metonymically, a university

[lucid shale]

Once i have the version of jupyter required how would I go about specifying that in the command?

[delicate wren]

jupiter==1.2.3
or something of that sort

[lucid shale]

Ahhh okay

Alright thank you very much

[misty urchin]

if you do pip install in the command line

you want to be careful not to have it misinterpreted as redirection

[misty sinew]

I felt joy among myself

[misty urchin]

though I don't know if this is a problem on windows

[delicate wren]

is it a result of just pip install jupyter or some other command?

[lucid shale]

pip install jupyterlab

[delicate wren]

package name is different

[limber anvil]

@misty sinew You already know python?

[delicate wren]

is there a more full screenshot?

[misty sinew]

Nah man

[delicate wren]

including the command

[lucid shale]

I can send one yeah one sec

[misty urchin]

also you should make sure they were asked to use 3.8 and aren't using 3.8 because it comes installed somewhere and they just used the default version

[misty urchin]

but asking the instructor clears this up regardless

[lucid shale]

Will do

[delicate wren]

!pypi puccinialin

[coarse hearth]

puccinialin v0.1.5

Install rust into a temporary directory for boostrapping a rust-based build backend

Released on <t:1749563574:D>.

[delicate wren]

it explodes on this

.xkcd 2347

[ocean orbit]

XKCD comic #2347

Someday ImageMagick will finally break for good and we'll have a long period of scrambling as we try to reassemble civilization from the rubble.

2020/8/17 - #2347, 'Dependency'

[delicate wren]

it requires at least 3.9

[lucid shale]

Got it

Alr my friend is sleeping now unfortunately but I'll bring them this info when they awake, I appreciate all the help

[umbral rose]

Sorry, g2g. Making dinner now

[misty urchin]

bon appetit

[delicate wren]

@misty urchin the highest number of doubly linked lists per a combinator has grown to 10
https://github.com/parrrate/ruchei/blob/549b9d6ea3f494eda5dc239b512ae2ea18cccb47/src/multicast/buffered_slab.rs#L22-L38

seems to work, even

very remotely but related

something very generic that turns a thing into kind of the same thing

[delicate wren]

for pointers, C++ is more ergonomic

and Zig

competitive programming

time to reimplement tail with io_uring

!e

with open(__file__) as f:
    f.seek(-65536, 2)
    print(f.read())

[coarse hearth]

:x: Your 3.13 eval job has completed with return code 1.

001 | Traceback (most recent call last):
002 |   File "/home/main.py", line 2, in <module>
003 |     f.seek(-65536, 2)
004 |     ~~~~~~^^^^^^^^^^^
005 | io.UnsupportedOperation: can't do nonzero end-relative seeks

[delicate wren]

hmm

the value returned by this function is unspecified and is only meaningful as the input to fseek().

If the stream is open in text mode

yeah I guess for text that does mean can't do arithmetic

!e

# ыыыыыыыыыыыыыыыыыыыыы
with open(__file__) as f:
    f.seek(9)
    print(f.read())

hmm

oh wait I need odd

[coarse hearth]

:x: Your 3.13 eval job has completed with return code 1.

001 | Traceback (most recent call last):
002 |   File "/home/main.py", line 4, in <module>
003 |     print(f.read())
004 |           ~~~~~~^^
005 |   File "<frozen codecs>", line 325, in decode
006 | UnicodeDecodeError: 'utf-8' codec can't decode byte 0x8b in position 0: invalid start byte

[delicate wren]

explosion

actually I think this is not the main cause there

I'd expect \r\n stuff be closer to OS-level stuff

O_DIRECT

afaik normally just everything is buffered

[delicate wren]

(maybe opening files as binary makes sense if possible)

This is strictly for compatibility with ISO C and has no effect; the 'b' is ignored on all POSIX conforming systems, including Linux.

as far as I see, Rust has no way of specifying if the file should be opened as text or not

@crystal aurora very quiet

by ~30dB too quiet would be my approximation

[misty urchin]

move to other place?

[delicate wren]

@misty urchin ig

[pale pivot]

That's just bringing up old trauma, in some places it would be considered bullying

[stuck bluff]

@delicate island 👋

!voice

[coarse hearth]

Voice verification

Can’t talk in voice chat? Check out #voice-verification to get access. The criteria for verifying are specified there.

[quaint pagoda]

yo @delicate wren

[devout mist]

How come you guys have voice verification?

Never seen another server with it.

[delicate wren]

it's gradually getting less strict

now that voice trolls are less problematic

compared to 2020~2021

[devout mist]

voice trolls?

People send time to troll you guys?

[delicate wren]

people join, shout, get banned, join again, shout again

[devout mist]

You guys seem like a proper lads.

No idea why they would do that.

[delicate wren]

lol

[delicate wren]

voice verification mitigates the last step in this

[devout mist]

Aha, the creation of another account?

[delicate wren]

cannot quickly ban evade and cause more trouble

[devout mist]

I see.

Can I ask you guys a question?

[delicate wren]

probably do it in #voice-chat-text-0 since we're in voice chat 0 currently

[delicate wren]

doing this currently #voice-chat-text-0 message

(but not in Python)

@stuck bluff Vine

time to bring that back

I don't have ` on the second keyboard

(at all)

@stuck bluff Twitter

Vine was part of Twitter for most of its life

[stuck bluff]

@strange verge @leaden sand 👋

[delicate wren]

thielocracies

[delicate wren]

@stuck bluff do you have on opinion of which of the three seems more sane in Python

!e

from collections.abc import Iterable

def join_sorted[A: Ord, B, C](
    left_: Iterable[tuple[A, B]],
    right: Iterable[tuple[A, C]],
) -> Iterable[tuple[A, B, C]]: ...
# turns [(1, 2), (4, 5)], [(1, 3), (4, 6)] into [(1, 2, 3), (4, 5, 6)]
def join_sorted[A: Ord, B, C](
    left_: Iterable[tuple[A, B]],
    right: Iterable[tuple[A, C]],
) -> Iterable[tuple[A, tuple[B, C]]]: ...
# turns [(1, 2), (4, 5)], [(1, 3), (4, 6)] into [(1, (2, 3)), (4, (5, 6))]
def join_sorted[A: Ord, B, C](
    left_: Iterable[tuple[A, B]],
    right: Iterable[tuple[A, C]],
) -> Iterable[tuple[tuple[A, B], tuple[A, C]]]: ...
# turns [(1, 2), (4, 5)], [(1, 3), (4, 6)] into [((1, 2), (1, 3)), ((4, 5), (4, 6))]

[coarse hearth]

:warning: Your 3.13 eval job has completed with return code 0.

[No output]

[delicate wren]

those are TypeVars

3.12 syntax

that was the big 3.12 thing

combines two two iterables into one such on equality of the first item in each pair

like SQL join

@elder wraith and we have to support 3.8 at times

(EOL)

yeah

Ubuntu 20.04

@elder wraith or embedded

also known as special kind of insane

[stuck bluff]

@golden timber 👋

[golden timber]

hi

im dont speak

[delicate wren]

embedded is stuck in past for different reasons (firmware/drivers)

[stuck bluff]

@pearl sundial 👋

[stuck bluff]

!voice

[coarse hearth]

Voice verification

Can’t talk in voice chat? Check out #voice-verification to get access. The criteria for verifying are specified there.

[pearl sundial]

Hi

[delicate wren]

I only use Go for defining Actions for now

[pearl sundial]

I have Just started learning python form Angela yu

Is it good

[delicate wren]

(because I don't want to write Bash or JavaScript)

Rust

compile times is probably the most painful part of attempting to use Rust purely for HTTP-JSON-SQL-JSON stuff

something that can't be mitigated by learning the language

[elder wraith]

THEN STOP!

Use Java or Golang or .Net

[quaint pagoda]

Rust is just for web3 devs right?

[delicate wren]

no

web3 isn't meant to have code written for it at all

.NET/Java are quite good because all the routine serialisation stuff can be done through reflection

thanks, bot

and, iirc, Go has something like that too

[delicate wren]

it can always be worse: C++

pre C++26 C++29 (when reflection happens properly) C++

aka all C++

[quaint pagoda]

What is rust used for mostly?

[delicate wren]

if you want an approximate answer based on what dependencies are being downloaded recently: https://crates.io/crates

[strange verge]

@stuck bluff 🪄

[strange verge]

What is Rust used for? : r/rust https://www.reddit.com/r/rust/comments/bjgfcp/what_is_rust_used_for/

[delicate wren]

https://blog.rust-lang.org/2025/02/13/2024-State-Of-Rust-Survey-results/technology-domain.png

[lean forge]

Does anybody have idea about go lang?

[hushed cave]

hi

cant speak

i left the server around 14h ago by mistake lol @silk forge

@glad turtle

yall here?

[silk forge]

ok

[hushed cave]

i was contributing to PyAutoGUI for Wayland support rn lol

https://github.com/asweigart/pyautogui/pull/936

[silk forge]

okiee

[hushed cave]

yes

yes

nah no issues

pyautogui just didnt support wayland till now

i (kinda) made it work

yeah

kinda like that ig

yes?

nah

just a student in school

yeah no i do realize that and will def wait

i dont expect everyone to be online 24/7

especially on github of all places

just used pyautogui a lot, and when i switched to linux from windows i was quite disappointed to see that it is not supported on wayland

its like an automation library

mouse and keyboard automation iyk what i mean

yeah

why not

its just that im not allowed to unmute

lets move to Live Coding

#off-topic-lounge-text

[misty sinew]

I got no clue 🗝️🧩

@sly skiff How old are you?

Are u a software engineer?

[misty sinew]

who?

@subtle pumice do u think its worth to have code academy if I already am in uni for software engineering?

[misty sinew]

You

[misty sinew]

Nah

[misty sinew]

Are Software engineers and developers the same?

I mean the thing is it's hard to differentiate it

No it's not

[subtle pumice]

codecademy is okay , its payware for a bit of stuff. @misty sinew

[misty sinew]

I'm doing a specific thing but u could consider it software engineering tho it's more about ai and Data science

Software Engineer is different to Software Developer

[delicate wren]

Scratch is visual programming iirc

CLI to quickly set up a project sounds more like
https://github.com/cookiecutter/cookiecutter

[misty sinew]

More specially Data Engineer?

[misty sinew]

It just always seemed like it was for people who didn't go to uni for coding yk so I was thinking is that gonna help me a lot even tho I already learn in the uni?

[subtle pumice]

oh. yeah , it's pretty good

[delicate wren]

@sly skiff

[subtle pumice]

python tutorial is better imho

[misty sinew]

No that's the thing, it's about ai therefore data but it's like software engineering overall, it's called engineering so like I'm just saying it's not like it makes a huge difference

[misty sinew]

Software Engineer is somewhat similar to Computer Scientist.

[subtle pumice]

@sly skiff https://www.google.com/search?q=speedtest&oq=speedtest&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyDwgAEEUYORiDARixAxiABDIKCAEQABixAxiABDITCAIQLhiDARjHARixAxjRAxiABDIKCAMQABixAxiABDIJCAQQABgKGIAEMgcIBRAAGIAEMgcIBhAAGIAEMgYIBxAFGEDSAQgxNTkwajBqN6gCALACAA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

[delicate wren]

300MB sounds somewhat excessive for a file, if that's a source code file

(might've misunderstood the context)

[misty sinew]

Are u from China?

[misty sinew]

She is from BIOS

UEFI

What is that

You call yourself an engineer?

You don't know about BIOS

Damn

[misty sinew]

I'm not I'm just studying

[delicate wren]

how much would that file even be, in terms of lines

[misty sinew]

Chill bro

[delicate wren]

219 mbps is quite fast

[misty sinew]

Do you have a PC or laptop?

[delicate wren]

I only have, like, 600 mbps

[subtle pumice]

https://play.circlecreativematrix.com/

[misty sinew]

@misty sinew BIOS is the interface for all IO

[subtle pumice]

@sly skiff ^^

[misty sinew]

Good to know

Now I can be an engineer

[delicate wren]

proper modern servers don't have a BIOS, but there is only one company which makes those afaik

[misty sinew]

Yuyaify must be a hell of an engineer

They know everythinggg

[delicate wren]

I don't have an engineering degree

[misty sinew]

Dang

[misty sinew]

Nah, to be an engineer give up ur title

I just asked them where they were from bc they earlier told me that they had a problem with connecting cuz discord wouldn't allow or support

[delicate wren]

I'd expect China blocks the entirety of GCP

not just Discord

so byedpi wouldn't work there

[misty sinew]

Mind you, her country of origin is Russia.
The best minds in tech are from Russia

[delicate wren]

if I reside in Russia, that doesn't necessarily mean that's my country of origin

[misty sinew]

But u sure care about Russia?

Ig, I need to learn some english..

After having this many talk my perception and value is low in the server

More words = less value

[delicate wren]

not everything
e.g. I have no idea (yet) what to do with this warning

who created that warning? (me 5 minutes ago)

[subtle pumice]

pretty sure that's saying it has to put the return of disown somewhere - like a variable = self.disown.

[delicate wren]

yes, I'm well aware what it asks to do

added assert!s to check whatever it returns makes sense

https://github.com/parrrate/ruchei/commit/6c72372725b2fd86aaeea2faf4fbe00ead1be72b

[versed nebula]

is taht py ?

[delicate wren]

no

[thin lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/hey-girl-hey-hey-there-oh-heyyyy-oh-hey-there-you-gif-11372691295730809478

@umbral rose

[umbral rose]

Hey

I am monitoring a stream atm, so can't zip down there. You wanted to play some civ?

[thin lintel]

maybe

[umbral rose]

I'm down in 30ish. I want to get the kids some lunch before starting into a game or I'll have to pause for a long while

[thin lintel]

wanna play in 30min?

[delicate wren]

sounds possible

[stuck bluff]

@noble void 👋

[noble void]

hello

[delicate wren]

@stuck bluff with all arrays, it just rearranges axes

doesn't touch the data

each axis is a step

numpy arrays are kind of just pointer+offsets

(if we ignore bounds check)

[noble void]

40th?

It is said that one truly understand life after they hit 40

[delicate wren]

@thin lintel the party for 50th will be smaller than the one for 40th because 50 is L and 40 is XL

!e

print(int("৪୨"))  # answer to everything

[coarse hearth]

:white_check_mark: Your 3.13 eval job has completed with return code 0.

42

[delicate wren]

reminder

!charinfo ৪୨

[coarse hearth]

Character Info

\u09ea : BENGALI DIGIT FOUR - ৪
\u0b68 : ORIYA DIGIT TWO - ୨

Full Raw Text

\u09ea\u0b68

[delicate wren]

it is just 42

[noble void]

Why do americans do that? What is the motivation behind it?

[slow lantern]

Thoughts: How about a CLI tool that generates a setup.py, pyproject.toml, and a standard Python project folder structure with all necessary items?

[delicate wren]

uv init

also don't setup.py

it's very outdated

unless you want to support 3.5 or whatever

[slow lantern]

is uv that good ? than venv ?

[delicate wren]

uv does way more than just venv management

manages python versions, pyproject.toml, uv.lock

[noble void]

It might be because people stopped self-domestication

[delicate wren]

also I think Discord is broken again and I don't hear anything

[stuck bluff]

We are talking.

[delicate wren]

it just breaks without any indication

@thin lintel we're waiting for Chris, right?

[thin lintel]

yes

[delicate wren]

I shall go eat more stuff then

freedom from guns

over freedom for guns

[noble void]

I once watched a documentary claiming that the issue is the fear that is spread by the media, and that freedom of guns exist elsewhere without the violence problem

[delicate wren]

@thin lintel I think we technically have them banned only within transport security zone

and certain public places

[delicate wren]

pizza pizza pizza

[stuck bluff]

https://tenor.com/view/plastic-mickey-auton-mickey-mickey-smith-doctor-who-new-who-gif-20685642

[delicate wren]

@thin lintel both pizzas are square
and one of them is black
(guess who it's named after)

@stuck bluff sue them for it... oh wait

can't sue Disney if you watch Disney

MPL has an arbitration clause

iirc

[stuck bluff]

@hasty rock 👋

[delicate wren]

I recently discovered there's a moth named after Trump

so now both Trump and Putin are moths

maybe that's why they get along

[delicate wren]

*after Trump's hair

[hasty rock]

hey guys

what are you all doing?

i see

[delicate wren]

it was something, like, 2 decades after discovery

maybe the scientist was so tired of trying to come up with a name for it

[hasty rock]

hey dragon

yea

its amazing how good they can copy sounds

[delicate wren]

there was, yes

also there was one that claimed but didn't

[delicate wren]

aaaaa

[unkempt surge]

eeeee

[delicate wren]

(wasn't actually connected to the VC)

@thin lintel now can hear

okay

should've mentioned hurricanes and stuff too

#python-discussion message

comprehensive

possibly comprehensible

@thin lintel

[delicate wren]

wood+fire, safe combination

currently three game updates in the steam download queue:

• 1.2MB
• 1.2MB
• 1.2GB

how the numbers aligned

should've been 1.2KB

some games do get, like, 24B updates

[unkempt surge]

80 GB, you forgot the light cod patch

[delicate wren]

thank all gods imaginary and imaginary I don't play CoD

I do have a game which is CoD-sized

(never played, it was given out for free)

haven't seen people needing to explicitly specify this in a while

[delicate wren]

28GB game, 26GB of which is the map

speaking of remotely CoD-adjacent games (but objectively better)

I forgot just how much this game lags

[glad turtle]

FAT32 wow

I used it when playing Aladdin or Jazz Jack Rabbit from floppy disks

[delicate wren]

doesn't work because of the file size seems like

[glad turtle]

A 26 gig map 🗺️ damn

Rivaling postgis full data dumps planet-wide 🌍

[delicate wren]

it is just that

openstreetmap

[glad turtle]

Cs2 using osm?

[delicate wren]

not cs2

other game

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1134710/NIMBY_Rails/

[versed nebula]

why while loop very hard

[normal dome]

anyone here use vim + python, just trying to find a decent setup for developement