#voice-chat-text-1

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frosty plaza
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@mild flume

red forge
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Hello

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anyone here ?

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Hello

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hey bro can you help me to do this

sly pond
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What are we doing?

tame leaf
delicate wren
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@jade terrace the ö one was clearly a joke

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(you weren't in the VC, I just transcribed what Hemlock/Rabbit said)

misty sinew
thin lintel
misty sinew
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@stuck bluff Have a sweet dream!

sly pond
wanton sierra
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I HATE THIS

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WHAT THE FUCK IS IT

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its the grey thing

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im talking abt

delicate wren
wanton sierra
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hmm

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il look for it in the config

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cant find it

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wieuhfiufhweifuhwefuihwefuewfwieuhfweifuhwefiuwhefiuwehfiwuehf

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its sooooooo annyoinh

sly pond
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Why use VIM?

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If you're just learning

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❤️ VIM, but it gets in the way early on

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interesting folder/file names BTW

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That bottom Python file, wonder what it's called.

wanton sierra
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theres worse 💔

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unfortuntetly

wanton sierra
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but with vim plugin

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its very nice

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i like it

misty sinew
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@jade terrace hello how is it going

jade terrace
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not bad, you?

misty sinew
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Normal, how are your works going?

jade terrace
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yeah, just draw procedual body parts

misty sinew
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What time will you complete this project

jade terrace
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no idea, it's an on going thing

misty sinew
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Okay, I hope that you will end soon succesfully

jade terrace
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thanks ahhahaha

misty sinew
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İ need work a little in C and me busy, have a good work to you

jade terrace
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see ya

stuck bluff
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@charred totem 👋

tame leaf
clear sage
tame leaf
clear sage
tame leaf
clear sage
tame leaf
clear sage
tame leaf
misty sinew
misty sinew
misty sinew
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Nah

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India is gayest

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It has biggest population of LBGTQ

tame leaf
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bruh

misty sinew
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And he had ruler who has bisexual

tame leaf
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It has biggest population
FTFY

misty sinew
tame leaf
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what about the percentage of population that is queer

stuck bluff
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The distribution would be roughly the same per capita regardless of location.

misty sinew
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@clear sage Original word is jati

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and caste sytem is still in existence

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No it was based on birth

thin lintel
misty sinew
# misty sinew <@412086355460358145> Original word is jati

The term jati derives from the Sanskrit word jāta, meaning "born" or "brought into existence." This indicates that caste was never merit-based but rather hereditary.

The caste system played a significant role in the decline of Sanskrit, as its use was primarily restricted to the upper castes, particularly Brahmins. As a result, the lower castes—who made up nearly 80% of the population—adopted languages that were a mix of Sanskrit and local tongues, such as Pali, Hindi, Marathi, Odia, and others.

Even today, inter-caste marriages remain rare. In my entire joint family, not a single marriage has occurred outside of our respective jati. This trend is reflected nationwide, as according to the Government of India's census, 96% of Indians marry within their own caste.
Source:-
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inter-caste_marriage#:~:text=India,-Main article%3A Inter&text=As of the 2011 census,India were inter-caste marriages.

Intercaste marriage (ICM), also known as marrying out of caste, is a form of exogamous nuptial union that involve two individuals belonging to different castes. Intercaste marriages are particularly perceived as socially unacceptable and taboo in most parts of South Asia.

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@clear sage

raven orbit
clear sage
clear sage
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the intended method of order but unfortunate degradation of the method had happened over time

misty sinew
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Dude your knowledge is limited, your source ain't new.
I have been a volunteer to ISKCON mumbai and unfortunately the Caste System is in practice since manusmriti!

clear sage
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my understanding might still be incomplete, since the Gita and Manusmriti are contrasting texts by their nature of origin

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i will tend to lean to the interpretation of the Gita

misty sinew
clear sage
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this is true

misty sinew
clear sage
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i would like if you had something more credible than a Wikipedia article

misty sinew
clear sage
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i'm guinely not trying to call a bluff

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i actually think that you mioght be right

misty sinew
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Maybe caste was never a concern for you, but unfortunately, for me and most Indians, it remains a harsh reality.

clear sage
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i just want the study from the source and not a Wikipedia article since they have been known to say things that are misinterpretations

misty sinew
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Okay let me provide you

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the source

clear sage
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nvm

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i ended up finding it myself

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again, i'm saying you are probably correct, i just don't trust Wikipedia 100% because of how it is an pot of inputs from multiple individuals that can add and remove information

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so i'd rather look at the source document

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i truly value your input in this

misty sinew
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Dude, just let it go. I wasted my time downloading the census, only to end up deleting it.

clear sage
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?
could have just sent the link, my bad

misty sinew
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@clear sage If you truly reject the concept of caste, then marry someone outside your varna and caste—especially from the so-called "untouchable" community.

misty sinew
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On this you can find the 2011 census

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@clear sage Visit https://censusindia.gov.in/census.website/data/census-tables.
Search for "C-Series" tables under Census 2011.
Download datasets like "C-2" or "C-14" and cross-reference caste and marital status data.
If the site blocks access (common with some pages), contact the Office of the Registrar General directly via the site’s "Contact Us" section for assistance.

// here's how to do so!

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And let’s end this conversation once and for all!

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As I said before, neither your thoughts nor mine will change reality.

wanton lintel
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bro

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can anyone help me for voice verifaction

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i dont know how

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i can do this

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can anyone plz help me in this

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guys

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?

sly pond
coarse hearthBOT
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Voice verification

Can’t talk in voice chat? Check out #voice-verification to get access. The criteria for verifying are specified there.

sly pond
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no one here has ever used a network

delicate wren
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TCP/UDP mentioned?
another opportunity to shill TIPC

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SFTP -- SSH
FTPS -- SSL

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iir

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c

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22 -- SSH

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you should know that if you ever use -L "recursively"

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I see it mostly because of myself

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what's why remembered

delicate wren
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there's also, like, submitted for processing or whatever

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idk which code

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hmm

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so this is for either PUT or POST

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should generally not return stuff? but I guess it can return an id of what it created

delicate wren
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kind of "we started processing it"

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oaky this one is devious

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it took us only 4 statuses to reach one that which why would you ever

delicate wren
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"don't blame me for the content" response

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the what is HTTP 207

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XML-specific

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so true

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@hollow smelt language.

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@hollow smelt NixOS?

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yeah

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@brittle phoenix it's NixOS

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I know who was the "evangelist" you're talking about

delicate wren
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if anyone cares to look at the text chat lmao

rocky yoke
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ty

rocky yoke
delicate wren
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it's great that NixOS exists even if you don't directly use it,
because of how it encourages certain practices/active updates to packages

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but, yeah, there do exist people who religiously believe in Nix

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(Aaron isn't actually one of them, just an enthusiast)

rocky yoke
delicate wren
rocky yoke
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i wanna see 418

delicate wren
rocky yoke
delicate wren
rocky yoke
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lovely 😁

delicate wren
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vice coding lmao

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I'm saving that

rocky yoke
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you already knew that term alisa 😉

delicate wren
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@brittle phoenix

  1. you will eventually end up in a case where you have nothing else to do (all tasks blocked), you can work on code then
  2. refactoring is sometimes required to deliver efficiently, so it's just part of working on current tasks, never prioritise refactoring over delivery
  3. show direct, concrete, specific impacts of the technical debt
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don't do big API rewrites if you don't own both ends of the API and the integration process

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it never works

brittle phoenix
delicate wren
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"when you come to a meeting with function call flamegraphs, you sure know something has gone wrong"

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@brittle phoenix it's meant to be abstract and relative by definition

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compare task A to task B

upbeat siren
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the story-points

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because we like to make your life harder.

brittle phoenix
delicate wren
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when you start trying to translate them to anything concrete, you've probably lost the meaning of it

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you can't measure performance using story points

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planning just doesn't work, yeah

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you can't plan reliably without writing code

brittle phoenix
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"ok but whats the ETA on this"

delicate wren
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there is still higher-level business-level planning, which is on the order of months;
it needs to be in place because stuff like contracts move slow, for good reasons

brittle phoenix
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asking for waterfall and agile together is like saying i want the speed of UDP but with TCPs reliability

delicate wren
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you can't plan how you write code, but you can somewhat plan what you want from code, rough understanding of wtf are we even trying to do globally

brittle phoenix
delicate wren
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it's a single protocol that supports both SOCK_DGRAM and SOCK_STREAM

brittle phoenix
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right?

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sounds like a wrapper on a normal. sys call, i could be wrong

delicate wren
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because of the context, it actually does outperform TCP in terms of latency

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and it can make more assumptions which allow it to go fast

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because it manages connections in a side-channeled manner, from what I understand

delicate wren
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@quaint cape you will end up having to talk for a while to someone who knows better at the company

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because it's clearly a bad practices situation

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there will be questions of how you could ever end up in such situation

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never --force

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only --force-with-lease

brittle phoenix
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RCA.docx

delicate wren
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backup everything

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for Git, --force-with-lease does matter

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just don't do that on main

brittle phoenix
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sounds like @quaint cape is asking "for a friend"

quaint cape
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yes spidy

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i need one :3

storm sparrow
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Is that for real!!

delicate wren
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knowing how badges work, wouldn't be surprising if he couldn't get out either lol

brittle phoenix
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ok but what happened to IBM

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they used to do such great researches

delicate wren
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IBM is buying companies

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RedHat, Hashicorp

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Broadcom-VMware acquisition was somewhat depressing

storm sparrow
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With your statement, now i'm worry about the future of Terraform.

delicate wren
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Nokia

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currently owned by them

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so ig transitively by Microsoft

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it's innovative weather-sensitive fibre

hearty heath
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Huh, I wonder how that works

brittle phoenix
hearty heath
delicate wren
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that sounds like what most libertarians want to live like but can't

storm sparrow
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Totally agree with that... Can't deny the fact. Even i noticed something from where i am. That made me rethink my future.

delicate wren
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not sure if Russia fits into that binary classification

hearty heath
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Are there issues with corruption in Colombia?

delicate wren
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"no issues, you can bribe very reliably"

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.wa short 8C to F

ocean orbitBOT
storm sparrow
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😂

jovial cradle
storm sparrow
delicate wren
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its existence is a gradient

storm sparrow
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Problem is with the Opposition, and the Public. If opposition is weak and public is ignorant then a country will eventually fall down.... And the corps need the cheap labour and higher revenue so yes they feed the politicians. Its a kind of cyclic chain.

umbral cedar
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Dirty Money is another great doc series on Netflix with different stories of corruptions

delicate wren
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RU/UA border used to be basically unrestricted too

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just drive or ride by train

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fall asleep in one country, wake up in the other in case of trains

hearty heath
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I gotta go

umbral cedar
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Seller never consumes

delicate wren
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opiate?

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yeah, ig guess correctly

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tbf an easy guess given, well, USA

misty sinew
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Company made billions?

delicate wren
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@hollow smelt that system is deliberately being torn down, unfortunately

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it was supposed to prevent certain thins in the first place and it kind of didn't

misty sinew
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@hollow smelt Average Joe think from top to bottom, so they blame president ( Not legislature )

delicate wren
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also I sometimes forget laws are ever passed to improve lives lmao given, well, Russia

misty sinew
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Rich people influence law maker on how law should be.
So law by few for all of the population

delicate wren
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I don't want to influence politics and education where I live anymore, I've already given up, it's over, the society has lost

misty sinew
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@hollow smelt No we don't, public transportation is worst!

delicate wren
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I just want to write code away from all that and only deal with it when it directly influences stuff

storm sparrow
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Please don't ignore the Fuel gambling aka energy problem

delicate wren
misty sinew
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No pointless and meaningless talk!

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Like these fella in VC!

delicate wren
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back to SQL, I gamed enough minesweeper for now

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unfortunately aide doesn't support it, so no OpenAPI generation

misty sinew
delicate wren
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in singleplayer, I've been only playing 100x100/2200 recently

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it's more for just spending time in a way that I only need to apply thought to listening and non-visual thinking

delicate wren
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@scarlet cedar
I'm hired as a developer I think

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@quaint cape bootcamps have weird post-"graduation" incentive structure

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i.e. they might demand a percentage of your earnings

delicate wren
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@quaint cape like the Pascal dialect?

delicate wren
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formally I'm hired as a junior developer

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MIPT has great AI/ML courses but they're in Russian

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Moscow Institute of Physics and Technology iirc

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most of material is in Russian

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they founded a subsidiary that got into teaching AI very early

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Deep Learning School if I correctly remember the name

scarlet cedar
delicate wren
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no, not that one

scarlet cedar
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this? xd

delicate wren
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this one, likely

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they have no offices anymore

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it's a virtual entity

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I haven't graduated any college/university

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I dropped out of Moscow State University after 4 months

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health issues mostly

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I'm still living in Russia

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idk how nationalities work anymore

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I scored high enough on state exams to attend for free

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yes

delicate wren
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(not international, just country-wide)

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we have four categories of students within the country, idk about students from abroad

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people who attend for free because results, people who attend for free because benefits/etc., people who pay, people who get paid for by the employer

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currently making HTTP bindings to whatever SQL I've been writing

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@sly pond iirc you were the witness to why everyone moved to VC1 (we just haven't moved back since)

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3 hours ago

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@jade terrace if you remember Lee, basically same

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it's 0 substance that's the critical problem

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there is nothing to fact check

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I'm in a way more normal state right now than ~day ago

graceful oriole
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hey guys i have an issue with the front end and back end communication of a login form where when i fill in the login form it doesnt get redirected to the landing page like how i wanted it instead it just logs in and refreshs

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i need help in how to fix that

sly pond
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Here's some help in how to get help

delicate wren
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whatever backend handles it, should be returning 301 redirect instead of returning the same HTML login page

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this is easier to achieve if the <form> is configured to be using POST

jade terrace
delicate wren
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woohoo DELETE without a predicate

opaque lily
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hello

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whats happening?

delicate wren
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2022, ig quite a while ago

opaque lily
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whats being talked about?

delicate wren
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random offtopic things

opaque lily
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ahhhhh

delicate wren
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SELECT not having ()s confuses me every time

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or, to be more specific, not allowing ()s

sly pond
delicate wren
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because there are some places in SQL where you can either use them or not

opaque lily
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look at my name

delicate wren
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though that might be accidental

sly pond
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Cut from the same cloth

delicate wren
# sly pond

"one gives soap to captives, the other doesn't, guess which"

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I mean the default select

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there are so many places in SQL where you need ()s around column names

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but not right after SELECT

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allegedly some US minister was using a mail.ru email lol

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mail.ru might've had a brief period when it outUXd gmail

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large part of its value used to be independence from other platforms

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not anymore

jade terrace
delicate wren
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they're now forcing VK SSO

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I use UPDATE so rarely that I don't even remotely remember the syntax

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hmm

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it might be taking quite a lot of time

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well that was not fast

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modding Duck Game was quite a useful experience related to 2D gaming stuff in my case

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relatively solid foundation in the form of the base game

jade terrace
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nice

delicate wren
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for me it was one of the earliest cases of applying functional programming systematically

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in a non-idealistic scenario

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be careful about publishing games if they're using proprietary engines, make sure to check the license

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hmm

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today I'll need to work past 6p.m. and then do some stuff during weekend

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not to interfere with others

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and for the sake of my own sanity

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Unity and Unreal are main candidates for legal issues

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Unity makes shaders relatively easy, from what I understand

sly pond
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Godot is free

delicate wren
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like games really stand out thanks to that

sly pond
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so there's that benefit if you don't wanna ever pay Unity or Unreal

delicate wren
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add a minesweeper minigame

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networking is somewhat non-trivial

delicate wren
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it definitely influenced me being able to understand state synchronisation

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but it also had a somewhat simplistic model

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each Thing has an networking authority -- owner -- the player whose opinion on the item state is considered the source of truth

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it prioritises local state over server state in many places

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or rather there isn't really a "server state" at all at times

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the internals of Duck Game actually feel quite well designed

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the outside API looks quite consistent, especially networking

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the database is still misunderstanding what I'm trying to do but at least it performs well enough

sly pond
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The database is doing exactly what you told it to do though

delicate wren
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and doing it well judging by benchmarks

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guiding postgres towards the right plan seems to work better than just relying on it magically figuring stuff out

stuck bluff
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@fair echo 👋

jade terrace
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@stuck bluff

misty sinew
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What you doing opal?

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Did you got frustated by the yap of the A.Walker?

jade terrace
glad turtle
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@tulip grail trauma is even inherited. some cultures (Macedonian) believe that it goes 5 generations down the line.

dry geyser
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Hello

sly pond
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hello

dry geyser
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How are you doing today?

sly pond
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another lovely evening

agile agate
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@stuck bluff 👋

stuck bluff
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@shell haven 👋

agile agate
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and what about me ??

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@stuck bluff

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no about that
i mean what you think about me ??

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noice thats true

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i dont talk much
in vc i like to listen to other people talks

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@stuck bluff bye i have go to my college
see yah

stuck bluff
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@tardy dagger 👋

tardy dagger
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hi bro ?

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do you speak english ?

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ahh it's okey

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I am from argentinian !

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do you know Python language ?

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do you learn python to me ? haha

stuck bluff
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!resources

coarse hearthBOT
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Resources

The Resources page on our website contains a list of hand-selected learning resources that we regularly recommend to both beginners and experts.

tardy dagger
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What framework do you use?

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I have to do something with image processing for my programming class. What do you recommend?

stuck bluff
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opencv, pillow, numpy.

tardy dagger
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now I google it

stuck bluff
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scipy

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scipy.ndimage, scipy.spatial

tardy dagger
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Do you know what convolutions are in neural networks?

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It is an average of the pixels

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Aprende a hacer tu propia visión artificial desde cero. En este video veremos el funcionamiento de las convoluciones y los filtros, la base para el uso de redes neuronales convolucionales y la visión artificial avanzada.

Puedes probarlo en vivo aquí:
Imagen:
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Cámara web:
https://ringa-tech.com/vis...

▶ Play video
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My teacher said that if I wanted to make a website, I wanted to do number or RGB detection, meaning multispectral detection.

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Sorry, I went to make some coffee.

prisma cedar
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lemmetalk

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helloworld

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@jade terrace poosie fresh poosie clean

ruby linden
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hello

stuck bluff
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@mortal swift You've been connected to voice here, deafened, for what appears to be a few days, now, in a single stretch. You good?

delicate wren
gritty pasture
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hello

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@sly pond

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can you help me with a code

delicate wren
delicate wren
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@proper ridge yes, it ended up working more or less correctly

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separate subnet

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directly in production, there are very few reasons to test it upfront, too costly

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work

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if I don't have a reason to do that, I just don't

misty sinew
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@jade terrace Do you know what really happened?

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Hmm

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I think jikky might have a bad day today!

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@tame leaf It's okay!

tame leaf
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have a good day without me

misty sinew
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I think she ain't in mood to talk

tame leaf
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sorry for existing.

misty sinew
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Dude come on, it ain't big deal

jade terrace
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water = []
space = 0
for block in range(len(height)):
    if block > 0 and block < len(height) - 1:
        if height[block] < height[block + 1] and height[block] < height[block -1]:
            while height[block] < height[block-1] and height[block] < height[block+1]:
               space + 1
            water.append(space)
    
print(water)
tame leaf
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or at least Opal

misty sinew
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Damn

tame leaf
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now i know my actions have caused discomfort to my friends

misty sinew
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!e

height = [0,1,2,0,2]
water = []
space = 0
for block in range(len(height)):
    if block > 0 and block < len(height) - 1:
        if height[block] < height[block + 1] and height[block] < height[block -1]:
            while height[block] < height[block-1] and height[block] < height[block+1]:
               space + 1
            water.append(space)
    
print(water)
coarse hearthBOT
jade terrace
misty sinew
tame leaf
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not dude

misty sinew
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My bad

tame leaf
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ok i'm out of words

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enjoy the rest of today.

misty sinew
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Okay

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Have a nice day ahead!

fair heart
thin lintel
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@stuck bluff look what Bisk made!👆

misty sinew
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Whenever I code, I make sure I'm in solitude because I enjoy it.

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@jade terrace How difficult is the problem for you?

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Okay

delicate wren
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my code is too slow

misty sinew
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Efficiency matter

grave abyss
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i am not solving any problem, i have exm tomoorow , i was studying for that

jade terrace
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water = []
space = 0
for block in range(len(height)):
    if block > 0 and block < len(height) - 1:
        if height[block] < height[block + 1] and height[block] < height[block -1]:
            back_space_temp = abs(height[block] - int(height[block-1]))
            forward_space_temp = abs(height[block] - int(height[block+1]))
            if back_space_temp > forward_space_temp:
                space = back_space_temp - forward_space_temp
            elif forward_space_temp > back_space_temp:
                 space = forward_space_temp - back_space_temp
            else:
                space = forward_space_temp
                    
            water.append(space)
    
print(water)

misty sinew
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!e

height = [0,1,2,0,2]
water = []
space = 0
for block in range(len(height)):
    if block > 0 and block < len(height) - 1:
        if height[block] < height[block + 1] and height[block] < height[block -1]:
            back_space_temp = abs(height[block] - int(height[block-1]))
            forward_space_temp = abs(height[block] - int(height[block+1]))
            if back_space_temp > forward_space_temp:
                space = back_space_temp - forward_space_temp
            elif forward_space_temp > back_space_temp:
                 space = forward_space_temp - back_space_temp
            else:
                space = forward_space_temp
                    
            water.append(space)
    
print(water)
coarse hearthBOT
misty sinew
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Ah

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How fast is this code?

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Well

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13 ms

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Good

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Yes

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How difficult was this?

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Hmm

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You have good problem solving skill

jade terrace
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thank you ahahahahah

misty sinew
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But this program can be improved

jade terrace
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yeah I know

stuck bluff
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I preferpy for i, _ in enumerate(...): ...
vs

for i in range(len(...)):
    ...```
jade terrace
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yeah list comprehension, I haven['t done it for a while

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or like whatever

stuck bluff
#
[thing for thing in things]``` is a list comprehension.
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!e py values = 1, 5, 9, 2, 3 new_values = [value * 3 for value in values] print(values) print(new_values)

coarse hearthBOT
misty sinew
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@jade terrace Do you have intention to publish the retro game for commercial use?

jade terrace
#

maye

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maybe if it turns out okay

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got a loooooooooooooooooooong way till then

misty sinew
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Keep going!

jade terrace
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I am lol

misty sinew
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Rockstar brother would be rival

stuck bluff
#

@swift tangle 👋

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@arctic ruin 👋

misty sinew
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I like how a simple concept of desire to be gangster made the GTA game

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@rocky storm I think you must be in GTA

jade terrace
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I need to work ohn my combos

misty sinew
#

A similar incident happened to me—my testicle still hurts to this day.
Life didn't give me lemon, it took my lemon

sly pond
#

Opal gonna fix it

stuck bluff
#

@slim delta 👋

#

!voice

coarse hearthBOT
#
Voice verification

Can’t talk in voice chat? Check out #voice-verification to get access. The criteria for verifying are specified there.

dusty furnace
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oiii

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anyone awakeee

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????????

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i am bit struck

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this was supposed to do sum automatically but it came as it was

silk sentinel
# dusty furnace

Put the operations not in quotes.
You can do, for example, print(12*2) , or, if you want both displayed, print(“12*2 = “ 12*2) .

stuck bluff
misty sinew
#

Find someone else to fool!

stuck bluff
coarse hearthBOT
misty sinew
#

@nimble ibex The game you are playing is kinda sus

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(very)

misty sinew
#

ok

stray agate
#

Is there anyone from India? 😭

misty sinew
#

not me

stuck bluff
#

@gloomy bison 👋

olive dock
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m back

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@delicate wren incident_actioned

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print ('Hello Guys')

misty sinew
hexed pasture
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hey

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who can help me with my code??

tender sand
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gm team

lost berry
#

hi

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how are you boys

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any body can help me

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with

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my

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aaaa

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ok

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thanks broo

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@stuck bluff

distant matrix
#

Dear Moderator @umbral rose

Can you please grant me the permission to stream in Live-coding ?

lost berry
#

hi

dusty furnace
#

thankyou everyone

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sorry for late response

stuck bluff
#

@forest swallow 👋

jade terrace
#

@stuck bluff 👋

stuck bluff
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+Avocado.

jade terrace
#

ahahahahahahhaha

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nice man ahahahha

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gimmie 10 mins

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sorry just woke up

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need music

stuck bluff
#

@ornate panther👋

#

!voice

coarse hearthBOT
#
Voice verification

Can’t talk in voice chat? Check out #voice-verification to get access. The criteria for verifying are specified there.

ornate panther
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hello

jade terrace
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hey man

ornate panther
#

If they spoke to me, I didn't understand, I'm Spanish😅

stuck bluff
prisma cedar
proper marsh
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gello

ornate panther
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HAHAHHAHAHAAHA

stuck bluff
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Mm.

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Donuts.

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Never been a fan.

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Beer.

mild flume
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@proud acorn Yo

elder wraith
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Did I drive eveyrone away with politcs?

mild flume
#

@pastel dirge Also yo

mild flume
stuck bluff
#

@forest swallow 👋

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@patent rain 👋

patent rain
#

hi

delicate wren
#

ig we can move back up

faint flax
#

Hello everybody 👋

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@stuck bluff

swift badger
#

hi

tired oasis
#

!voice

coarse hearthBOT
#
Voice verification

Can’t talk in voice chat? Check out #voice-verification to get access. The criteria for verifying are specified there.

shy kernel
#

!voice

coarse hearthBOT
#
Voice verification

Can’t talk in voice chat? Check out #voice-verification to get access. The criteria for verifying are specified there.

stuck bluff
#

Hmmm.

sly pond
#

They're still on it

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that's why I left

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That's because they're not "Python Chat 0"

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and "Python Chat 1"

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I imagine the Live Coding channel is a lot more Pythonic

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I come to them to not talk programming normally

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I quite enjoy the community

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good conversations with good people

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about all the things that aren't my job

delicate wren
#

this is such an insanely wrong default

stuck bluff
#

@jolly flare 👋

sly pond
#

lol

delicate wren
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@mild flume I can handle it but I do get, like, socially bored from that

jolly flare
sly pond
misty sinew
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Stock market is bluff

delicate wren
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(I don't get the "idk what to do" bored, just "I don't want this specific thing right now" bored)

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@mild flume no, not at all

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it's so difficult to make it work as a lock

misty sinew
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Vibe coders are good at one thing: prompt

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And bad at everything

delicate wren
#

@jovial cradle what direction did you move it? (I didn't hear)

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GH -> GL or the other way?

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ah

sly pond
misty sinew
delicate wren
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@jovial cradle and then keeping it up to date

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possibly in multiple places

stuck bluff
delicate wren
#

mdbook for standalone docs and Outline for collaborative editing -- what I usually choose

sly pond
#

Do you plan on refactoring it all anyways?

delicate wren
#

speaking of refactoring, this is an amazing talk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTcDBYCpj7Q

ACCU Membership: https://tinyurl.com/ydnfkcyn
https://www.accuconference.org/
https://accu.org

Gilding the Rose: Refactoring-Driven Development - Kevlin Henney - ACCU 2023
Slides: https://accu.org/conf-previous/accu2023/

Refactoring is a word on every developer's lips, but not always at their fingertips. There is more to refactoring than IDE s...

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this is one of the uncommon Kevlin Henney talks (no the ones where he repeats the same things he always says)

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I have a collection of, like, several hundred talks by various authors that I've watched

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the realisation that I've actually spent >2000 hours watching random lectures and talks on programming is truly something

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> not ~, I have no idea what the proper estimate is

hearty heath
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Wasn’t that when he swapped hands with the robot devil?

jade terrace
#

no room for @jade terrace , huh? FINE! I'll build my own Python Discord, with blackjack and hookers. In fact, forget the discord .... and the blackjack. Ah, screw the whole thing... XD

sly pond
#

Depends on how violenty you are expelling

misty sinew
#

What exactly is zero gravity?

jade terrace
#

freefall baby!!!

sly pond
#

Pretty sure the bowels move things along as well

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Which is why the spray pattern isn't always a stream

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Gets some horizontal movement in there at times

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which defies gravity

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so it's not just gravity doing the work

misty sinew
#

If we are in space within the universe aren't we under the influence of the gravitational force of the planet, sun and so on

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Are we in no gravity?

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I don't think so!

sly pond
delicate wren
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@stuck bluff approximately

sly pond
#

even in the middle of nowhere

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your body has gravity

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matter just has gravity

misty sinew
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Exactly

sly pond
#

but the gravity we're discussing is the knwon effect of the Earth's gravity

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which is, things fall

delicate wren
#

there is no gravity as a "force" in General Relativity

delicate wren
sly pond
#

The reality is, things in orbit are in freefall

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while also moving forward

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always falling, never landing

delicate wren
#

that's in Newtonian model too

misty sinew
#

AI sound like Opal

sly pond
#

Astronauts say that “Today’s coffee is tomorrow’s coffee!” lol

misty sinew
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AI is theif

jade terrace
delicate wren
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force is considered to be something that accelerates relative to the space

misty sinew
#

The fabric of universe is space and time.
What exactly is space?

delicate wren
#

gravity appears to behave like a force

jade terrace
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I think they updated the model

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I mean like what they teach etc etc

delicate wren
#

when you're dealing with "flat" enough region of space, gravity behaves enough like a force that you can call it such

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and approximations are quite good enough too

misty sinew
#

If E=mc^2
If c is the speed of light, how is it possible that mass can travel at twice the speed of light?

And how did Einstein prove this equation?

delicate wren
#

lmao

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mass is excessively weird too

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@mild flume @thin lintel this image and both sides with that caption

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("... too" one)

misty sinew
delicate wren
#

it's a very surreal bus

misty sinew
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In my country the bus doesn't have a seat belt

stuck bluff
#

It's a toss up, here.

delicate wren
#

depends on the bus, yeah

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long-distances busses normally have those not in-city ones

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or like tour busses

misty sinew
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Ah I see

delicate wren
#

for regular public transport it's a useless measure

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or even potentially counter-productive at times

jade terrace
misty sinew
misty sinew
delicate wren
#

one interpretation of that is the mass comes from energy trapped in place

misty sinew
#

Hence atom decay over time!

delicate wren
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iirc protons themselves can decay too neutrons

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they just happen to do that less inside atoms

jade terrace
#

I was looking at like the boson

delicate wren
#

yeah, that's the mechanism behind that "trapping of energy" interpretation

misty sinew
jade terrace
#

yeah the higgs boson field

misty sinew
#

Too condensed

delicate wren
#

the field is, like, too asymmetric compared to other ones or whatever

jade terrace
#

assymetric universe bullshit

delicate wren
#

(actually, no, field is quite broad and can apply to fermions too)

jade terrace
#

but thats the point right?

delicate wren
#

if you try hard enough, you can apply field-like models even to molecules

jade terrace
#

cause they intereact electronically

stuck bluff
#

A boatswain ( BOH-sən, formerly and dialectally also BOHT-swayn), bo's'n, bos'n, or bosun, also known as a deck boss, or a qualified member of the deck department, is the most senior rate of the deck department and is responsible for the components of a ship's hull. The boatswain supervises the other members of the ship's deck department, and ...

#

Higgs, Bosun.

misty sinew
#

So eventually after a long long time, there will be only energy, no matter at all.
As atoms decay in energy

delicate wren
#

neutrons protons normally don't decay as far as we know

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unless I confused protons and neutrons

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in which case the opposite for both

jade terrace
delicate wren
#

I corrected, it was indeed the other way

delicate wren
stuck bluff
misty sinew
delicate wren
#

since visible universe might expand to the point of only one subatomic particle

jade terrace
#

radioactive decay happens with all elements

delicate wren
#

not with regular hydrogen as far as we've observed

jade terrace
#

?

delicate wren
#

how would it even decay?

jade terrace
#

I think it does but PAINFULLY slowly :L idk

delicate wren
#

into what?

jade terrace
#

strings?

delicate wren
stuck bluff
jade terrace
#

okay yeah sorry

delicate wren
#

1.67e34 allegedly

jade terrace
#

I'm forgetting my shit rn

delicate wren
#

years

jade terrace
#

but everythuing decays

delicate wren
#

what kind of demon are they summoning here

misty sinew
delicate wren
stuck bluff
#

Confetti demons.

jade terrace
#

I personally think the universe shrink in space to a tiny particle and then supernova into another big bang

delicate wren
#

from third question presumably we don't even know if free protons decay more than atom protons

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which would make sense since we don't know if they decay at all

jade terrace
#

sure

misty sinew
#

What exactly is the big bang?
We have no idea what exactly it is yet we believe in it

stuck bluff
jade terrace
#

yeah, what about it?

delicate wren
#

big unbang

misty sinew
#

Are we humans really capable of surviving the end of the universe?

#

If we are made of atom, eventually we will decay as well

#

I like how simple it is not exactly simple!

Everything is complex around us!

proper ridge
hearty heath
#

Hey 👀

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Erm, w.r.t. when people can stream games?

#

I don't know if we've ever really formalised the rule to that extent 😄

#

You'd have to ask Hemlock; he's voice lead.

jade terrace
#

just do it

proper ridge
#

@mild flume Am I allowed to stream games given it is Saturday for me? Or is there a specific timezone which the weekend would be based on.

jade terrace
#

I think hemlock would be chill with the image above

misty sinew
#

If every animal is evolving, what are the chances that cats and dogs will be as intelligent as present day Human?

jade terrace
#

I think cats are like a base mammilain zenotype

delicate wren
#

I'm back

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relative got a scam call

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scammers said the trash containers are now going to be locked so we'll have to get a key to access them

jade terrace
#

so when mannilains have a chance to survive in a enviroment which would allow the same evolusionary pathways to humanity

proper ridge
#

Why would they use that as a scam?

#

That sounds more like someone setting up a mugging.

misty sinew
delicate wren
delicate wren
#

so literally whatever premise to get the victim to read a confirmation code from the sms

misty sinew
#

Scammers are evolving as well!

hearty heath
#

Gotta go 👋

proper ridge
#

People who scam are I think my most hated beings.

delicate wren
#

eh, not really

proper ridge
#

For me they are.

jade terrace
proper ridge
#

Like when I see a scammer, I get unbelievably mad.

proper ridge
jade terrace
#

we as humans still exhibit evolutionary traits from cavemen, like the need to fit into a group or tribe

misty sinew
jade terrace
#

I think time is the most important factor if the right conditions are met

delicate wren
#

I'll go visit the economic analyst chamber

proper ridge
jade terrace
#

I wanted to write a book on like typologies of life forms in sci-fi

misty sinew
#

Do it!

#

I would like to read it!

jade terrace
#

really ahaha

delicate wren
#

or just without economic

proper ridge
delicate wren
#

ah

proper ridge
#

Yes.

jade terrace
#

like a "Zombie survival guide" but for various alien types

proper ridge
#

Not correcting you.

#

Just making a joke.

delicate wren
#

yeah, the quotes are around the whole sentence were implied

proper ridge
#

I see.

#

Good one then.

misty sinew
#

Tbh, I love to read the fantasy of other Human beings

jade terrace
#

I'm looking at blank journals rn

misty sinew
#

You can start with simple google docs

jade terrace
#

nah cause I wanna take it about, I'l forget on docs

misty sinew
#

Ah

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Okay

jade terrace
#

"how I would surivive Alien Encounters"

misty sinew
#

I'd like to read!

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Take care Milien

#

Bye

#

Shall we hop in Voice Chat 0?

sly pond
#

but 1 > 0

jade terrace
#

WAGWAN VOICE CHAT 1

delicate wren
#

stream what?

#

Friday

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"are you not committed enough to spreading the democracy for over four hours?"

delicate wren
#

lmao I managed to run away from hostile starships and then a faction I never saw before jumps in with a ship only 200 metres away from me

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truly a game

#

(playing Everspace, first part)

proper ridge
#

I am playing HD2 so didn't want to torture yall with my background sound.

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What's that I heard?

#

Quantum?

delicate wren
#

@pale pivot Qcen when

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quantum cen rather than objective cen (ocen)

#

if you can check it fast, then yea

proper ridge
delicate wren
#

validating whether whatever you found is the actual thing

umbral rose
#

When was it @pale pivot ?

misty sinew
#

@umbral roseYo

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How are you?

umbral rose
#

Good. How about you?

delicate wren
#

@proper ridge it was too much basics

#

or rather too long of an introduction

proper ridge
proper ridge
#

TLDR; quantum compilation is really nice because it's really open-ended. You can use existing compilers to compile anything (and sometimes making sth into that compatible thing is really nontrivial and expensive), and sometimes you can design a literal compiler just for that primitive.

#

And whenever you get stuck, you just have to remember this is a tensor network. If you can leverage that, chances are you can improve your compiler significantly.

#

I wholeheartedly recommend qrisp not because it's efficient (it's not, and isn't trying to be, it's just bringing classical programming to quantum software engineering, which is what the industry and honestly the world is missing right now to properly work on qse), because it's really really creative.

It abstracts all the quantum-specific architecture to a kernel essentially like any other hardware paradigm, and works with classical variables (you may think well, then it's not using quantum right, but in fact quantum and classical are representation wise equivalent, so if you can use a human-friendly API that is efficient enough, then you can code actually useful quantum algorithms and programs). It's practically a GPL built on python that compiles to quantum circuits. Really, really valuable work.

delicate wren
#

a lot of cryptography is at risk because what cryptography values for timing-attack-resistance -- clear execution plan -- also lends such problems well to quantum

proper ridge
delicate wren
#

@barren gale high in what of two senses?

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I've actually been thinking of setting up AI in such way that it asks questions about the code rather than explaining/generating code

#

could be a fun experiment

#

@umbral rose why would you ever leave

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you can always :! to run shell

#

the real fun is when you have vim as PID 1

umbral rose
delicate wren
#

the main, original process, that starts up the rest of the system

#

init through vim

#

oh look I did it

#

presumably, if I :q it will actually shutdown

umbral rose
#

Does this cause problems?

delicate wren
barren gale
#

pxe boot

umbral rose
#

today I learn

delicate wren
#
docker run -it --rm alpine ash -c "apk add vim && exec vim"
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oh wait no

#

I fixed it

#

you can then :!ps

#

the container

#

ugh @purplesyringa is not here or else I could ask her how to do the container-as-system-itself thing

#

docker-boot replaces your current running system with an in-memory root filesystem constructed from a Docker image.

delicate wren
#

or has my early onset dementia gone too far and I'm misremembering

umbral rose
#

I ended up making my own version of docker from~~ scratch~~ using containerd

delicate wren
#

why would it be free

#

containers

#

do not use a VPS

#

deploy it as a container

#

containers are cheaper for the provider to provision

#

VPS is a VM with preallocated CPU and RAM resources

delicate wren
#

whereas containers are collocated with other containers

#

worse guarantees of performance

red forge
delicate wren
#

but for a discord bot it shouldn't matter

#

cheapest 24/7 VPSes aren't that expensive either

#

like $10/month and below

red forge
#

wait

delicate wren
#

also, yeah, just sign up for free options and try things out

#

compare different variants

red forge
delicate wren
#

@barren gale it's not a full year free, even on lowest tier

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@barren gale after 1 year, free tier as a whole runs out

#

but free tier credits aren't enough for one year

#

I've ran over the limit even though I had the VPS shutdown and AWS still wants my $1.14

#

I've historically never used anything cloud-deployed except for static pages/very cheap simple services

#

everything on-premise

#

getting a public static IP isn't that much of a problem in some regions

#

we pay $2 extra a month for that

#

but

#

for a discord bot you don't even need that

#

don't misuse colab

#

colab will actually punish you for non-interactive use

misty sinew
#

Yo how can I start coding?

barren gale
#

by typing

delicate wren
#

as for regular google cloud, they definitely offer container deployment

#

they were one of the earliest to popularise that for docker containers

misty sinew
delicate wren
#

not right now

#

Joyent were earlier than them, but their containers weren't Linux

#

instead it was illumos

barren gale
#

code chess then play it

red forge
#

okey got it '

barren gale
#

then u become code mayor

red forge
#

bye

delicate wren
#

I wonder how difficult it'd be to translate the application state I have for PvP minesweeper into chess

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with all the cross-tab sync

barren gale
#

ooo

delicate wren
#

this is what I use for part of the sync

barren gale
#

ooo

delicate wren
#

another important part is event sourcing everywhere

delicate wren
#

yes, all the server side code is in Rust

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and client-side code is a single HTML file

delicate wren
#

currently watching this https://youtu.be/0y7IFUYUTgg

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there are three general options:
CUDA
ROCm
CUDA emulated on top of ROCm

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CUDA works on basically anything Nvidia

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ROCm is supported only on recent AMD GPUs

#

Mindful is deafened, taking a test iirc

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CUDA itself requires an Nvidia GPU

#

the libraries you pick might have support for OpenCL or something hardware-specific that is compatible with your GPU

misty sinew
#

.8ball How to learn coding?

ocean orbitBOT
#

Better not tell you now

misty sinew
delicate wren
#

I'm choosing whether or not to do programming this weekend

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probably will do it anyway

#

though not as work-related

#

was thinking of making a UI for one of the database projects I'm making

dry geyser
#

Ooo

delicate wren
#

from scratch? yes

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simple neural networks are just minimisation problems

#

you evaluate a function given inputs and weights
and from that you see where you need to move the weights to decrease the output

#

(output is usually the error which you want to bring to 0)

#

weights are initially picked at random

#

through the learning process they settle on certain values

#

you need to way to persist those weights

#

common modern format is .safetensors

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when you load the network into memory, you pick what weights to load

#

instead of picking random again, just use the ones you previously saved

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brb

dry geyser
#

Potassium

dry geyser
#

Hy

safe summit
#

sodium

visual briar
#

Hi

#

I need begginer study partner for python

misty sinew
#

@jade terrace @proper ridge hello

#

Dude, how do you get so loud? Are you putting the microphone in your mouth? @jade terrace

reef granite
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import numpy as np

rng = np.random.default_rng()
cedar salmon
#

@reef granite what we reading?

reef granite
#
Cell = np.dtype(
    [
        ("ord", "uint32"),
        ("style", "u1"),
        ("fg_color", "u1", (3,)),
        ("bg_color", "u1", (3,)),
    ]
)
#
Cell = np.dtype(
    [
        ("char", "U1"),
        ("bold", "?"),
        ("italic", "?"),
        ("underline", "?"),
        ("strikethrough", "?"),
        ("overline", "?"),
        ("reverse", "?"),
        ("fg_color", "u1", (3,)),
        ("bg_color", "u1", (3,)),
    ]
)
#
cdef packed struct Cell:
    unsigned long ord
    unsigned char style
    unsigned char[3] fg_color
    unsigned char[3] bg_color
proper ridge
#
Checking /tmp/baipp/dist/quick_core-0.0.0-py3-none-any.whl: ERROR    InvalidDistribution: Metadata is missing required fields: Name,        
         Version.                                                               
         Make sure the distribution includes the files where those fields are   
         specified, and is using a supported Metadata-Version: 1.0, 1.1, 1.2,   
         2.0, 2.1, 2.2, 2.3.  
stuck bluff
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@signal meteor @heavy glen 👋

delicate wren
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@proper ridge are you using a lockfile?

proper ridge
wooden dome
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Can anyone make a message channel for Asians only?
Like a chat room for asians, they can discuss the opportunity, hackathon, manu more?

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I often feel out of place in regular Python discussion chats, as most of the folks there are from the West.

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It would be easier for me to network with people from Asia.

mild flume
thin lintel
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Cryssie! join vc

mild flume
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@trim zinc Yo

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@dreamy yacht Also yo

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@open sparrow Yo

open sparrow
mild flume
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@sharp badger And another yo

wooden dome
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Who is she talking about?

mild flume
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That

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Such gold

wooden dome
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Ah

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Donald?

thin lintel
mild flume
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Classic

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@proper fern Yo

thin lintel
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@elder wraith you ☝️

elder wraith
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Pretty much

thin lintel
misty sinew
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@mild flume

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My friend, you might have the best English accent I've ever seen in my life.

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If you are going to any course, tell me so I can go too. I can't talk to anyone with my shitty voice

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haha

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@thin lintel

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Sister, do you have any advice for having an attractive voice? If so, I'll take notes lol

mild flume
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@onyx kernel Suuuup

onyx kernel
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wasuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuup

mild flume
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Hanging in there. You?

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There are 10 kinds of people in this world: Those who understand binary and those who don't

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10 being 2 in binary

onyx kernel
mild flume
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Which ones do you have today?

misty sinew