MEEEEEEEEEE
#voice-chat-text-0
mossy cedar
hardy cloud
no congratulations to you
mossy cedar
MY HOUSE HAS 6 BATHROOMS @rugged tundra
zenith radish
vocal basin
I don't trust either
external services are generally better
@rugged tundra
you can also do "login with google" stuff
I do understand
somewhat
fervent prawn
wise cargoBOT
vocal basin
@whole egret
shorting is not a stock
vocal basin
shorting stocks
well, it's not equity because it's not an asset
actually liability without assets
mossy cedar
technically borrowing money from thebank = bad
vocal basin
technically borrowing money from thebank = bad
well, most money is just that
vocal basin
no bank no tax live is happy
a lot of tax
mossy cedar
OOO COMN
vocal basin
no bank no tax live is happy
your legislation requires paying taxes on any income
whether it's crypto or no doesn't matter
mossy cedar
crypto currency is ban here
mossy cedar
its not real mony said the money minister guy
vocal basin
its not real mony said the money minister guy
it's a security (financial term)
mossy cedar
wew
vocal basin
it's a security (financial term)
in most circumstances
vocal basin
django has an ok integration and request handling
vocal basin
idk about the rest of the of the world, my government directly and openly threatens my life
life is great
meanwhile ChatGPT
https://meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/421831/temporary-policy-chatgpt-is-banned
just discover and invent small things
or big things incrementally
contribute incrementally
literacy
@whole egret
literacy
mossy cedar
"everything that can be invented has been invented."
- Charles H. Duell (1899)
yeah he definitly wasnt right
vocal basin
better to understand that as "reinvention is widespread because the communication of innovation is not good enough"
mossy cedar
better to understand that as "reinvention is widespread because the communicatio...
elaborate that a bit bcz i got no idea what your quoted part means
vocal basin
Euler invented Fourier transform
but no one cared
and even when it was needed, no one would be able to check if Euler invented it in a reasonable time
you can't just send a request to SPB (Russia) archives for Euler's notes
because there's no internet
and also
how would you know Euler did that invention
you need qualified people to look through all archives
and communicate with each other to speed up that
opaque scroll
vocal basin
they're currently not drafting as much
same for biyearly enlistment
@whole egret
enforcing incarceration would take extra time
they don't want to spend it
opaque scroll
they cant hear you in discord
who knows
mossy cedar
who knows
theres waaayyy too many ppl in the internet to analize his specific openion and find him through discord voice
btw my cousin sister just went to russia (mossco uni)
vocal basin
they cant hear you in discord
russian authorities force to install forged certificates
mossy cedar
whats that
vocal basin
@whole egret
you are less likely to get drafted it you didn't serve
not safe tho
.
mossy cedar
leave what
vocal basin
the country
vocal basin
similar to if
mossy cedar
ik bash basic stuff
mossy cedar
oo
vocal basin
me too but I can do stuff anyway
vocal basin
me too but I can do stuff anyway
like, I don't actually need a purpose or a will to do things including innovations
I just kind of do it
mossy cedar
innovation is making stuff into better stuff
vocal basin
me too but I can do stuff anyway
"feeling dead" is not only because of the danger of being drafted
vocal basin
"feeling dead" is not only because of the danger of being drafted
||(there were death threats even earlier)||
mossy cedar
im feeling dead too man aaaa
vocal basin
https://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/bash-for-loop/
for loops in bash are like in python not like in C
like that?
for i in {1..5}
do
ls
done
looks like it can't work in a single line by default
intentionally muted
for now, at least
-4 degrees Celcius
warm
mossy cedar
its 17 here
mossy cedar
eh
vocal basin
system 1:
one
thousand
million
billion
trillion
quadrillion
system 2:
one
thousand
million
milliard
billion
billiard
in Russia:
one
thousand
million
milliard
trillion
quadrillion
vocal basin
!resources
wise cargoBOT
vocal basin
use this one it's less scammy
mossy cedar
i missspelled the na,me
vocal basin
I have "an audience" to work for, so maybe that makes easier
(mostly requiring python bots)
C++ is not good
wouldn't recommend
it's not very professional also
it's just a mess
warped saffron
Hey, can I ask any of you for some quick help with pygame?
stray niche
I have "an audience" to work for, so maybe that makes easier
Can I ask what this is about? Curios.
vocal basin
Can I ask what this is about? Curios.
there's a discussion of coming up with project ideas
I have a discord server that depends on a couple of bots that I created
vocal basin
C##
warped saffron
Any of you guys know pygame/python?
vocal basin
@hardy cloud
if you need a better C, you use Rust not C++
vocal basin
Any of you guys know pygame/python?
I have couple hours of experience with pygame
it does use numpy
which I somewhat know
warped saffron
I have couple hours of experience with pygame
Could I talk to you in help chat?
vocal basin
Could I talk to you in help chat?
do you have a thread created?
vocal basin
thread? Do you mean an example code to show you?
help chat thread
warped saffron
oh no
vocal basin
warped saffron
do I need it?
vocal basin
do I need it?
it is generally considered to be the best way to ask for code help here
vocal basin
the country denies they exist
it was only one southern part
now that policy spread to the whole country
"there were no sensible reasons for that all to happen"
mossy cedar
BCZ ITS MONEYY
i want a gpu
a ferary
a house
and umm idk good fud
n gold bars
bcz i wanna slap myself with the gold bar. hire a chick to slap me with the gold bars
why apple
i once mixrd a banana in my coffee
mossy cedar
a ferary
house with a huge green house, a bunch of flowers
me also in school
i cant explain you how much i hate sports
bcz i suq at it
vocal basin
why shit job
why jobs in general:
money + experience + (if you prefer that) social interaction + sense of purpose
mossy cedar
welp i used to be round and chubby now im fit enough bt i still suq in sports. and al my childhood "friends" were in sports so they bulleh poor meh. so i hate it even more
vocal basin
time to count projects
os module is mostly useless in real applications
walk
probably
vocal basin
`os` module is mostly useless in real applications
except for something like 2~10 functions
including chdir
you generally shouldn't use chdir
rugged root
!tvmute 945077939169554483 1d Chewing loudly on the mic and then saying "too bad" when asked to stop is not acceptable
wise cargoBOT
:ok_hand: applied voice mute to @hardy cloud until <t:1672244543:f> (1 day).
hardy cloud
@whole bear still listening
hardy cloud
!tvmute 945077939169554483 1d Chewing loudly on the mic and then saying "too bad...
lol
it's fine I'm having a good day
continue everest.sh
I'm still listening
still chewing loudly
mossy cedar
konnichiwa
hardy cloud
konnichiwa
hello
hardy cloud
wassup
pretty good you
just eating something mr hemlock jealous he ain't got the goods
mossy cedar
playing apex while listening to random ppl talk in discord
vocal basin
@whole bear
depends on purpose
and on permit
mossy cedar
it is great game you ever play <@634395259400355840>
in friends house yes
congratulation on getting more expired
vocal basin
I might finish current minesweeper season in top 1000 let's go
stray niche
!source
wise cargoBOT
vocal basin
it took me too much time to make sure it's discord.py
mild quartz
Skin is essential for thermoregulation. The skin uses blood flow to regulate heat loss from the body. Skin blood flow is regulated by skin temperature, modulated by the temperature of blood flowing to the hypothalamus of the brain. Vasoconstriction can limit skin blood flow to about 10% of baseline. Because skin has minimal metabolic demands, vasoconstriction does not cause ischaemia. Skin blood flow in dependent extremities can also be decreased by immobility.
Vasoconstriction is maximal in the hands and feet at a skin temperature of about 15 °C. When skin cools below 15 °C, cold-induced vasodilation (CIVD) causes periodic increases in blood flow. CIVD, also known as the ‘hunting response,’ takes place in cycles lasting five to ten minutes. The cycles are more rapid and involve larger changes in blood flow in people who have regular, long-duration cold exposure. Inuits, Lapps, and fishermen in Nordic countries generally have strong, rapid CIVD cycles [11]. Theoretically, a vigorous CIVD response may decrease the likelihood of NFCI. In a study of 26 Dutch Marines, the authors concluded that weak CIVD response was associated with high risk of cold injury [12], but this conclusion was based on 11 subjects who subsequently were frostbitten. None of the subjects developed NFCI in follow-up.
pallid hazel
ive found that learning flask and html to build a frontend is spending alot of my time on html.. crawling through page tricks and forms.. just to be able to get the input data needed to even start with the flask backend services..
its time consuming..
😦
sweet lodge
<@98195144192331776> https://www.cncf.io/phippy/phippy-goes-to-the-zoo-book/
And of course we can't forget the https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4W8Z-D-gcQ
winged hinge
I should have brought popcorn ahhghg
stray niche
I should have brought popcorn ahhghg
byee
austere linden
Can I ask a silly question on here, please?
stray niche
not me
austere linden
!e
print("Hello World Hello World Hello World Hello World Hello World Hello World Hello World Hello World")
@austere linden :white_check_mark: Your 3.11 eval job has completed with return code 0.
Hello World Hello World Hello World Hello World Hello World Hello World Hello World Hello World
!e
print("Hello World Hello World Hello World Hello \
World Hello World Hello World Hello World Hello World")
@austere linden :white_check_mark: Your 3.11 eval job has completed with return code 0.
Hello World Hello World Hello World Hello World Hello World Hello World Hello World Hello World
Thank you @warm jackal and @whole egret 😊
wise cargoBOT
lucid blade
zenith radish
lucid blade
zenith radish
whole bear
Hey, can someone help me with a simple python problem? (i think)
vestal mason
what are you working on @lunar haven
whole bear
so I need to know if im the only one getting an error when trying pip install seleniumwebdriver
I want to know if the error is on my side
can someone try and tell me if they also get an error?
lucid blade
ok i got windows and python 3 installed 2min
whole bear
can you try?
lucid blade
C:\python3\Scripts>pip.exe install seleniumwebdriver Collecting seleniumwebdriver Downloading SeleniumWebdriver-0.1.4.tar.gz (1.7 kB) Using legacy 'setup.py install' for seleniumwebdriver, since package 'wheel' is not installed. Installing collected packages: seleniumwebdriver Running setup.py install for seleniumwebdriver ... done Successfully installed seleniumwebdriver-0.1.4 WARNING: You are using pip version 21.2.4; however, version 22.3.1 is available. You should consider upgrading via the 'C:\python3\python.exe -m pip install --upgrade pip' command.
worked without error
win10 and py 3.10.2
whole bear
r u on windows 11?
vestal mason
Is this a rebuild of lossy compression to make the files smaller?
lucid blade
^^ win10
whole bear
hm
lucid blade
@lunar haven sounds cool man 🙂
whole bear
@lucid blade can u try again pls?
see if it gives error
pip install SeleniumWebdriver==0.1.5
rugged root
Good news, my work computer still works. Bad news, I won't be on VC for a while (potentially a few days or over a week) since I'm now smack dab in the middle of the business services hall
Additional bad news, god damn it I just have my one monitor right now
@whole bear What's the error code you're getting?
Might just be that you need the build tools
whole bear
<@456226577798135808> What's the error code you're getting?
it's stuck on installing
can you please try and see if you get the same error?
rugged root
It's not giving you any kind of error, just hanging during the install?
rugged root
Have you restarted your machine?
whole bear
yes
rugged root
Mkay, one sec
whole bear
pip install SeleniumWebdriver==0.1.5
rugged root
No. The repo was made only 24 minutes ago, has no links to the source code, and is not from the Selenium team
@lucid blade Make sure you uninstall/get rid of the thing they just had you install
whole bear
No. The repo was made only 24 minutes ago, has no links to the source code, and...
what
rugged root
What site told you to use that to get the web drivers or what have you
Because that's not how it should be done
whole bear
i was trying to make selenium project
someone told me to use seleniumwebdriver
for driver
rugged root
This is where you should be going to get the relevant drivers
I would highly advise against using that particular thing you mentioned
whole bear
ok
chilly crest
@lunar haven do you have any advice for making UIs in tkinter? or any sources that come to mind
whole bear
Hey I need help installing skimage I have no idea whats going wrong
honest torrent
@ornate ore
ornate ore
hello
honest torrent
@warm mauve did u just join?
whole bear
pretend the 5 is a 6
anyone know if i should choose python for learning to hack
@safe pumice
indigo karma
@whole bear depends what kind of hacking you want to do i mean i dont know how you would hack using python but there are free programs that take 0 programming knowledge and still fall under the category of "hacking"
whole bear
<@456226577798135808> depends what kind of hacking you want to do i mean i dont ...
To be completely honest I have been watching scammer payback videos and was kind of inspired to learn how it all functions, I know you can just like get someone to click on a link and dox them but like thats not as fun yk
honest torrent
Yeah pythons great
whole bear
Yeah pythons great
Where would I learn from? YouTube is only so limited in the hacking category for python
honest torrent
Do you know the basics and fundamentals of python?
whole bear
Do you know the basics and fundamentals of python?
Yes, I have been using python as a hobby for 4 years, took classes for it for 2 years and I completely understand all the basics, formatting, syntax, ykwim. I have dipped my toes in game dev with pygame and have also made video game cheats. (Edit: The cheats were not hacking, just macros and recoil reducers)
honest torrent
Yes, I have been using python as a hobby for 4 years, took classes for it for 2 ...
I’ve just searched ‘ethical hacking python’ into google and there seems to be tons of resources available
Should be enough along with yt?
whole bear
I’ve just searched ‘ethical hacking python’ into google and there seems to be to...
Ahhhh thats a good idea, I will look into it
whole bear
Should be enough along with yt?
ok thank you
honest torrent
yes
snow cypress
well
I wonder if you guys could try to help me with a python problem
It's related with pyinstaller
I'm trying to fix this issue for 2 days but I couldn't
honest torrent
i presume theyre busy, ask in #1035199133436354600
honest torrent
ok
safe pumice
import networkx as nx
import matplotlib.pyplot as plt
import itertools
import math
def find_prime_factors(n):
Initialize a list to store the prime factors
prime_factors = []
Divide the number by 2 as many times as possible
while n % 2 == 0:
prime_factors.append(2)
n = n / 2
Divide the number by odd numbers until it is no longer divisible
for i in range(3, int(math.sqrt(n))+1, 2):
while n % i == 0:
prime_factors.append(i)
n = n / i
If the number is still greater than 2, it is itself a prime factor
if n > 2:
prime_factors.append(n)
return prime_factors
def find_unique_combinations(n):
Find the prime factors of the number
prime_factors = find_prime_factors(n)
Get all the permutations of the prime factors
permutations = list(itertools.permutations(prime_factors))
Initialize a set to store the unique combinations
unique_combinations = set()
Iterate through the permutations and add them to the set
for permutation in permutations:
combination = "".join(map(str, permutation))
unique_combinations.add(combination)
return unique_combinations
Create a new directed graph
G = nx.DiGraph()
Set the number of iterations
num_iterations = 3
Set the starting number
current_number = 8
Add the starting number as the root node
G.add_node(current_number)
Iterate through the desired number of iterations
for i in range(num_iterations):
Find the unique combinations of the current number
combinations = find_unique_combinations(current_number)
Add each combination as a child of the current number
for combination in combinations:
G.add_node(combination)
G.add_edge(current_number, combination)
Set the current number to the first combination
current_number = combinations[0]
Draw the graph
nx.draw(G, with_labels=True)
Show the plot
plt.show()
def find_prime_factors(n):
Initialize a list to store the prime factors
prime_factors = []
Divide the number by 2 as many times as possible
while n % 2 == 0:
prime_factors.append(2)
n = n / 2
Divide the number by odd numbers until it is no longer divisible
for i in range(3, int(math.sqrt(n))+1, 2):
while n % i == 0:
prime_factors.append(i)
n = n / i
If the number is still greater than 2, it is itself a prime factor
if n > 2:
prime_factors.append(n)
return prime_factors
Test the function with the number 8
print(find_prime_factors(8))
import networkx as nx
import matplotlib.pyplot as plt
Create a new directed graph
G = nx.DiGraph()
Add some edges to the graph
G.add_edges_from([(1, 2), (1, 3), (1, 4), (2, 5), (2, 6), (4, 7), (4, 8)])
Draw the graph
nx.draw(G, with_labels=True)
Show the plot
plt.show()
import itertools
def find_prime_factors(n):
Initialize a list to store the prime factors
prime_factors = []
Divide the number by 2 as many times as possible
while n % 2 == 0:
prime_factors.append(2)
n = n / 2
Divide the number by odd numbers until it is no longer divisible
for i in range(3, int(math.sqrt(n))+1, 2):
while n % i == 0:
prime_factors.append(i)
n = n / i
If the number is still greater than 2, it is itself a prime factor
if n > 2:
prime_factors.append(n)
return prime_factors
def find_unique_combinations(n):
Find the prime factors of the number
prime_factors = find_prime_factors(n)
Get all the permutations of the prime factors
permutations = list(itertools.permutations(prime_factors))
Initialize a set to store the unique combinations
unique_combinations = set()
Iterate through the permutations and add them to the set
for permutation in permutations:
combination = "".join(map(str, permutation))
unique_combinations.add(combination)
return unique_combinations
Test the function with the number 8
print(find_unique_combinations(8))
tulip plover
@rapid flame
eggs = [1, 2, 3]
del eggs[2]
del eggs[1]
del eggs[0]
eggs.append(4)
eggs.append(5)
eggs.append(6)
##########################
eggs = [1, 2, 3]
eggs = [4, 5, 6]
rapid flame
pallid hazel
omg i hate html now.. bahh!!
spend all day doing a controlled input step by step hidding and unhiding inputs so they get filled out in the right order etc.. and it looked cool.. and it works on the webpage.. but the form only outputs the last inputs and toss's the other away... krike!
pallid hazel
https://programming-idioms.org/cheatsheet/Python
thats seems old?
a few i would say need to be done better
pallid hazel
omg.. few hours of debuggin and about to redo all the code and pattern.. and boom.. talk to someone and gets you thinking abiut other causes you hadnt thought of.. quick google search and bam.. problem solved
tulip plover
you welcome
snow cypress
Hello man
I still don't have permission to talk
I'm working on it
I think that I have the need of sending more messages here
somber heath
@fossil tinsel 👋
somber heath
!voice
wise cargoBOT
snow cypress
you need to send messages
above 50 messages and more than 30 minutes in the server...
that it is what is need it
I'm also on my way
they change
cuz the message says that it was only 30 minutes
fossil tinsel
me?
snow cypress
anyone
fossil tinsel
im still a beginner
snow cypress
xd
fossil tinsel
OpalMist maybe
snow cypress
has relations with linux
yes exaclty
it is that
if you have time could we make a conference?
i would show to you what the problem it is
and we try to fix it
okay
yeah
I will create a ticket
fossil tinsel
it's the holiday season
snow cypress
@rugged root you could try to help me with a issue?
It is about pyinstaller
alright
quasi condor
snow cypress
try to use the aminoacid Theanine for sleep
it is natural... a substance from the green tea
For me helps alot
stray niche
For me helps alot
Ah
winged hinge
brb in 2min
grass on the clouds,
birds under the ground
did that make any sense? 💀
visit australia by walk : best
taking flights makes you lazy
mortal burrow
https://www.flightsfrom.com/LAX-SYD#:~:text=All flight schedules from Los,The distance is 7536 miles.
winged hinge
@stray niche @somber heath I am replying here :3
My mic is intentionally not working.
stray niche
visit australia by walk : best
Swim you mean
winged hinge
no I meant walk. as ram built a fockin bridge to visit sri lanka, one should really be creative and build something similar and walk. it shows not being lazy
dont eat onions
drink onions
@stray niche
Its much healthier
welp !! I do
and I get tonsils. It hurts but I do dare to go against
yeah
yeah I wanted to remove from root.
@somber heath invite us to your place
I want to play with a kangaroooooooooo
and prolly get kicked by it lol idk
have you ever met with one?
oh so they are also introvert like me?
lol that is cool i guesss XD
I wana pet a kangaroooooooo
awwww they so cute
sue
@stray niche unfortunately I am from region as you are so no mention XDDDDDDDD
@somber heath I wonder if you ever crashed onto a kangaroo
@somber heath why kangaroos are from australia and not from any other place?
do they hate other countries?
drifting yarrow
hello, I am a new developer and am having trouble with my code because when i open the py it just crashses and I jabe no clue why.
winged hinge
@somber heath have you ever playedrick roll with em?
winged hinge
@somber heath can you export one kangaroo to my place?
like dark market kinda shit 💀
I would love to pet one 💀
I will make em indian kangaroo 🦘
are they national animal in australia?
@somber heath I want to visit your place and play with your kangarooooooooooooooooooooooooo
how many kangaroos do you have?
My mind is full rn with these questions :3
I am rick rolled with your kangarooooooooos
stray niche
Cyaaaal
stray niche
winged hinge
byeeee
have you ever seen one carrying ther child?
I have only seen em on scree
do they attack ?
I wonder how they balance em while standing on their tail
ouuuuuuuuuuuuu
do they generally hide or socialize ?
@warm jackal hellloooooo
@somber heath have you watched the movie "LION"?
@somber heath
hello @long quiver
This movie was shot in australia and the movie is really good
highly recommend
winged hinge
its about a child who lost their parent and went lost and then via some agency sorta thing that child landed on australia
one of the australian family adoptem him
somber heath
@whole bear 👋
winged hinge
!voice
whole bear
!voice
!voice
I asked like few months ago they told i have to text every hour
Or 30 minutes
winged hinge
@somber heath do you what is my native language is ?
whole bear
winged hinge
aaha what?
whole bear
Does anyone of you guys code in js?
winged hinge
thats different regional language
whole bear
I from somalia
winged hinge
yeah its a major one but not punjabi certainly
winged hinge
@somber heath
whole bear
Indian belike
winged hinge
this
whole bear
My pc is infected now
Lol
Im a noww
Any of you guys now what type of hash this is
winged hinge
@somber heath can you speak mandarin?
hello @willow lynx
hein what?
did you mention me?
whole bear
winged hinge
@long quiver she from africaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
winged hinge
@somber heath do you experience palm sweating?
ouhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh :0
Hello @rugged tundra
winged hinge
@willow lynx why hanging out when you can sit
@somber heath can you ask @willow lynx to check this text section I guess she is not aware of this
Idk
Heyluuuuuuuuuuuuu @willow lynx
Welp I dont know much about english so I will take that
@somber heath do you eat fish ?
somber heath
@naive ridge 👋
winged hinge
@somber heath okay so can I bring fish with me when I will visit you?
nice to hear that @long quiver
@somber heath the dissapointment I never expected :(
But who cared, Im gonna come anyways :3
@willow lynx are you from india?
somber heath
@robust peak 👋
winged hinge
cool
robust peak
Hai I just realized my dc vc doesn’t work without vpn 💀
somber heath
Hai I just realized my dc vc doesn’t work without vpn 💀
!voice Also this.
wise cargoBOT
winged hinge
I was excited to talk but sad :(
@somber heath tell me which one sounds better?
me only replying here or talk?
why are you making it complicated ? 💀
rugged root
somber heath
Brunhilde
somber heath
Your Scandinavian girlfriend?
Not likely.
winged hinge
@warm jackal 😂
warm jackal
Not likely.
Boyfriend? It's androgynous enough not to raise too many eyebrows^^
(The name)
rugged root
Wait, it is?
somber heath
Boyfriend? It's androgynous enough not to raise too many eyebrows^^
More likely, still no.
winged hinge
@somber heath is tryna hide it
somber heath
No, not really.
winged hinge
Medea
Euripides’s Medea (431 B.C.) adds a note of horror to the myth of Jason and Medea
somber heath
shadow sable
You're making me hungry
rugged root
Name ideas for Diameter's white, female rabbit.
Steve
gentle flint
stevina
whole bear
@willow lynx https://www.youtube.com/@jomaoppa
rugged root
When are you gonna come on again? =(
When I have an office again
warm jackal
What happened...?
rugged root
They're having to tear out the drywall and sheet rock, they're going to have to replace the carpet, and the cubicle walls are also FUBAR. We had a pipe burst in our office building. There's 3 office fronts in the building. In our specific office, mine was the only one that really got hit, with some additional wall and carpet damage a few office rooms down. The other two office fronts in the building were also completely damaged.
So right now I'm camping out in our small conference room, which is next to all the business services folks
No idea when all that will be fixed
warm jackal
They're having to tear out the drywall and sheet rock, they're going to have to ...
Cold burst the pipes? Who's on the hook for the preventative maintenance that failed?
warm jackal
So right now I'm camping out in our small conference room, which is next to all ...
/hug
rugged root
Insurance is going to cover it. Our HVAC folks have been fucking up with the furnace systems lately, so they really dropped the ball this time. It's above my paygrade to deal with all that
warm jackal
Insurance is going to cover it. Our HVAC folks have been fucking up with the fu...
It's above my paygrade to deal with all that
/woop woop!
rugged root
I found it this Monday morning. Spent a lot of time in the far office front squeegeeing out water. They had like 2 inches of standing water there. When I opened their front door, it was like opening a flood gate
But we have folks coming in and taking care of all that jazz. So now it's just hurry up and wait, keep or pitch with stuff that got water on it, etc.
sturdy panther
I found it this Monday morning. Spent a lot of time in the far office front squ...
Oh dear. Had spare trousers?
stray niche
<@680125010588860639> what about madea?
Hmmmmmmmmmm. Sounds okayy, not great
stray niche
No idea when all that will be fixed
Dear people who are fixing it,
Please fix it fast. We miss Hemlock.
Thank you.
rugged root
Oh dear. Had spare trousers?
I didn't, but my shoes were already soaked through so I just stopped caring after the first 10 minutes
whole bear
I’ve just searched ‘ethical hacking python’ into google and there seems to be to...
they are mostly linux tutorials, i have a laptop that runs windows. should i switch to linux?
rugged root
Dear people who are fixing it,
Please fix it fast. We miss Hemlock.
Thank you...
Getting withdrawal symptoms already?
stray niche
Getting withdrawal symptoms already?
Yessir
honest torrent
they are mostly linux tutorials, i have a laptop that runs windows. should i swi...
yeah preferably, as they have more features and a better terminal suited for hacking
hardy cloud
@rugged root
vestal mason
vocal basin
Mark Rendle had a fun story about companies refusing to adopt simple solutions
cyanide was for almond flavouring maybe
there do exist keyboards that are intentionally loud
tulip plover
!e num1 = [1,2,3]
num2 = num1
num1.append(4)
print(num2)
print(num1)
wise cargoBOT
@tulip plover :white_check_mark: Your 3.11 eval job has completed with return code 0.
001 | [1, 2, 3, 4]
002 | [1, 2, 3, 4]
num1 and num2 are the same list
num2 is not a copy of num1
!e
num1 = [1,2,3]
num2 = num1.copy()
num1.append(4)
print(num2)
print(num1)
@vocal basin :white_check_mark: Your 3.11 eval job has completed with return code 0.
001 | [1, 2, 3]
002 | [1, 2, 3, 4]
you are copying a reference to a list not a list itself
!e
num1 = [1,2,3]
num2 = num1
print(id(num2))
print(id(num1))
print(num2 is num1)
@vocal basin :white_check_mark: Your 3.11 eval job has completed with return code 0.
001 | 140685524396480
002 | 140685524396480
003 | True
!e
num1 = [1,2,3]
num2 = num1.copy()
print(id(num2))
print(id(num1))
print(num2 is num1)
@vocal basin :white_check_mark: Your 3.11 eval job has completed with return code 0.
001 | 140497878856704
002 | 140497878854080
003 | False
solid panther
whats the watch at you guys
vocal basin
time you mean?
tulip plover
<@264054779888533515> :white_check_mark: Your 3.11 eval job has completed with r...
What
solid panther
(sorry for my bad english)
vocal basin
time you mean?
(local time)
solid panther
yeah
vocal basin
!e
```py
num1 = [1,2,3]
num2 = num1
print(id(num2))
print(id(num1))
print(num2 i...
here, both lists are the same down to identity
vocal basin
!e
```py
num1 = [1,2,3]
num2 = num1.copy()
print(id(num2))
print(id(num1))
print...
here, both lists are the same down to equality
solid panther
whats your local time?
vocal basin
(are there other ways to copy a list?)
list0 = [0, 1, 2]
list1 = list0.copy()
list2 = list(list0)
list3 = list0[:]
list4 = [*list0]
list5 = [element for element in list0]
variables are always references
a = 1
a = 2
those are two different values and different references
wise cargoBOT
vocal basin
!e
a = 1
print(id(a))
a = 2
print(id(a))
@vocal basin :white_check_mark: Your 3.11 eval job has completed with return code 0.
001 | 140532417775464
002 | 140532417775496
id(something) is basically a pointer to something
vocal basin
!e
a = 1
print(a, id(a))
a = 2
print(a, id(a))
@vocal basin :white_check_mark: Your 3.11 eval job has completed with return code 0.
001 | 1 139832305952616
002 | 2 139832305952648
here, id(1) is 139832305952616
!e
a = 1
print(a, id(a))
b = a
print(b, id(b))
@vocal basin :white_check_mark: Your 3.11 eval job has completed with return code 0.
001 | 1 140337399773032
002 | 1 140337399773032
here, a and b reference the same object, so they have the same id and same value
tulip plover
!e
wise cargoBOT
tulip plover
!e a= 1 b=2 print(a is b)
vocal basin
!e a= 1 b=2 print(a is b)
!e a = 1; b = 2; print(a is b)
wise cargoBOT
@vocal basin :white_check_mark: Your 3.11 eval job has completed with return code 0.
False
!e a = 1
b = 1
print(a is b)
wise cargoBOT
@tulip plover :white_check_mark: Your 3.11 eval job has completed with return code 0.
True
because python stores all 1s as one object so the references are also the same
tulip plover
it is like am saying 1 is 1
vocal basin
!e
a = 1234567890 ** 10
b = 1234567890 ** 10
print(a == b)
print(a is b)
@vocal basin :white_check_mark: Your 3.11 eval job has completed with return code 0.
001 | True
002 | False
python decides that it's more efficient to store a and b as two separate objects
(almost) every value in python is an object
and those objects are (almost) always used by reference
vocal basin
and those objects are (almost) always used by reference
in that context you can think of this as one of the meanings of what "object" is
OOP to understand that is not necessary
for now, it's enough to know that variables are references not values
azure rivet
!e
wise cargoBOT
azure rivet
!e
a = 1234 ** 10
b = 1234 ** 10
print(a == b)
print(a is b)
@azure rivet :white_check_mark: Your 3.11 eval job has completed with return code 0.
001 | True
002 | True
@vocal basin
They both return True when it's only the 4th digit tho. Why is that? If I add a 5th digit then the second one returns False
vocal basin
<@264054779888533515>
They both return True when it's only the 4th digit tho. W...
small values are cached
!e print((1234 ** 10).bit_length())
wise cargoBOT
@vocal basin :white_check_mark: Your 3.11 eval job has completed with return code 0.
103
!e print((1234567890 ** 10).bit_length())
wise cargoBOT
@vocal basin :white_check_mark: Your 3.11 eval job has completed with return code 0.
303
Hmm. I see
formal oriole
hi
azure rivet
Hi
azure rivet
That does not look like it's matching 💀
vocal basin
it says not matching outer indents but it is matching idk the problem
this part is off
azure rivet
Yupp
vocal basin
formal oriole
oh
azure rivet
You can see it clear as day 🤣
vocal basin
You can see it clear as day 🤣
python2 would say "invalid constant" in some cases instead of pointing to incorrect indentation
azure rivet
I see
formal oriole
vocal basin
still one character off
formal oriole
spaces
vocal basin
delete one space just before elif choice == 'T':
(((also, if you use python 3.10+, you should probably be using match not if-elif-else)))
honest torrent
Lol
formal oriole
(((also, if you use python 3.10+, you should probably be using `match` not `if-e...
using python 3.9
azure rivet
What is match
vocal basin
!d match
wise cargoBOT
formal oriole
it still not matching
azure rivet
it still not matching
Howw send code
vocal basin
formal oriole
am gonna try using tabs see if it works
vocal basin
https://wingware.com/doc/edit/auto-reformatting
(your IDE looks like Wing if I understand correctly)
azure rivet
am gonna try using tabs see if it works
If you do that then you'll have to change every space to tabs
vocal basin
!e
for value in ['a', 'b', 3]:
match value:
case 'a':
print('this is the letter a')
case str() as s:
print(f'this is some str {s=}')
case _ as other:
print(f'this is some object {other=}')
@vocal basin :white_check_mark: Your 3.11 eval job has completed with return code 0.
001 | this is the letter a
002 | this is some str s='b'
003 | this is some object other=3
its now lined up
azure rivet
Did you really change everything to tabs
vocal basin
pep8 says spaces are preferred
formal oriole
just left it spaces changing all to tabs would take ages
azure rivet
Lol
vocal basin
Spaces are the preferred indentation method.
Tabs should be used solely to remain consistent with code that is already indented with tabs.
Python disallows mixing tabs and spaces for indentation.
azure rivet
I use tabs because I'm on phone and it's torturous to enter spaces
azure rivet
I think you have to pass an argument into your index function
formal oriole
so like if a condition is true it happens statement in function
cause am using elif and put function in elif
vocal basin
.index(***something***)
robust lichen
@vocal basin did the chicken or the chicken egg come first?
vocal basin
I use tabs because I'm on phone and it's torturous to enter spaces
use termux+vim with vim configured to replace tabs for spaces
robust lichen
i wanna know
azure rivet
<@264054779888533515> did the chicken or the chicken egg come first?
The chicken
vocal basin
<@264054779888533515> did the chicken or the chicken egg come first?
you didn't specify which egg
robust lichen
the thing that a chicken comes out of
vocal basin
then by definition the egg was first
azure rivet
The chicken can come out of anything
azure rivet
then by definition the egg was first
The chicken. Bruh.
vocal basin
The chicken. Bruh.
look again at the "thing that a chicken comes out of" definition
robust lichen
look again at the "thing that a chicken comes out of" definition
its called a 'chicken egg' since a chicken comes out of it but was it a chicken who laid it
vocal basin
if we assume all chickens are from eggs, we can formally prove that chicken egg as a "thing that a chicken comes out of" was first
if it's "an egg laid by chicken" then the chicken was first
robust lichen
do we really know which one came first in the question?
'the chicken or the egg'
doesn't seem like a good definition
vocal basin
if it's "an egg laid by chicken" then the chicken was first
if it's one or other (union), then the egg was first
if it's both (intersection), then the chicken was first
azure rivet
The real question is, which came first, the chicken evolved to lay eggs or the egg of a chicken that evolves to lay eggs
vocal basin
you either accept that chicken can come from non-chicken egg or that chicken egg can come from non-chicken
being able to strictly define and understand these types of constraints is essential for developing system software
robust lichen
being able to strictly define and understand these types of constraints is essen...
ok then if the grandson of a grandpa were to go back in time to shoot his grandpa would his grandpa still be alive or dead?
vocal basin
ok then if the grandson of a grandpa were to go back in time to shoot his grandp...
this question has a lot of potentially contradictory assumptions left out
@somber heath
chickens are dinosaurs formally
vocal basin
chickens are birds originally 😂
all birds are part of dinosaur clade
robust lichen
all birds are part of dinosaur clade
oh..
vocal basin
all birds are part of dinosaur clade
Avialae -- part of Paraves -- part of Maniraptora -- part of Maniraptoriformes -- part of Coelurosauria -- part of Tyrannoraptora -- part of Coelurosauria -- part of Avetheropoda -- part of Tetanurae -- part of Averostra -- part of Neotheropoda -- part of Theropoda -- part of Eusaurischia -- part of Saurischia -- part of Dinosauria
this is so long
unlike, the pre-mammal reptile-like things (which were not reptiles), dinosaurs are a clade and include all descendants
reptiles are also not a clade, iirc
i.e. not all dinosaurs are reptiles because birds aren't
(birds are explicitly separated from reptiles)
apparently, like there is a Reptile class as a clade and Reptile class as like "these are reptiles not birds or other stuff"
taxonomy is weird
classes are generally clades
but there can be other ways to call a certain group
this is so weird
Aves is a class
Reptilia is a class
but Aves is a part of Reptilia
pallid hazel
then you realize its a dumb monkey trying to make meaning, oftens time there is none to be found.
robust lichen
then you realize its a dumb monkey trying to make meaning, oftens time there is ...
this could sound very wrong 💀
pallid hazel
once upon a time people were heretics and beheaded in the streets for mentioning evolution
vocal basin
there's a lot of confusion about what GB/Gigabyte means
windows thinks GB is 10^9 bytes
linux thinks GiB is 2^30 bytes
the correct term for 1024 bytes is Kibibyte
but using Kilobyte is fine
maths people don't like calling 1024 bytes a kilobyte
because kilo is 1000
so they came up with kibi prefix
also
HDD/SSD producers use maths definition
this is why you don't get 2TiB when you buy a 2TB HDD
(you get 1.82TiB)
you can't put that in PC
there are physical limits
I found this
https://www.statista.com/statistics/638593/worldwide-data-center-storage-capacity-cloud-vs-traditional/
world is probably at around 1% of maximal binary prefix
+- a couple of orders of magnitude
pallid hazel
in pcs, i never buy anything thats not a factor of 1024.. as in, it means it has flaws and was formed on a superior flawed or worn die.
vocal basin
in pcs, i never buy anything thats not a factor of 1024.. as in, it means it has...
what?
pallid hazel
yea edited, mistyped
vocal basin
this table
isinstance
!e
print(type(False) == int)
print(isinstance(False, int))
print(issubclass(type(False), int))
@vocal basin :white_check_mark: Your 3.11 eval job has completed with return code 0.
001 | False
002 | True
003 | True
linux uses TiB to avoid confusion, for example
TB is ambiguous
vocal basin
!e
```py
print(type(False) == int)
print(isinstance(False, int))
print(issubclas...
there is a method call also
special method
vocal basin
to fit into a computer
computer -- no, data centre -- already yes
!e
print(int.__instancecheck__(False))
@vocal basin :white_check_mark: Your 3.11 eval job has completed with return code 0.
True
!e
print(int.__subclasscheck__(type(False)))
@vocal basin :white_check_mark: Your 3.11 eval job has completed with return code 0.
True
look here
current total capacity of data centres is at several zettabytes
for NSA, it's easier to ask Amazon for servers instead of keeping their own
for most situations
as for processing, CIA/NSA sometimes even partially outsource to universities
pallid hazel
guys... hey guys... my ML has solved world hunger.. im so excited to share the news.. it came up with a way to turn plants into meat..
feed plants to cows..
robust lichen
feed plants to cows..
just eat dirt 😂
vocal basin
for NSA, it's easier to ask Amazon for servers instead of keeping their own
I mean, they do have their own data centres
but just asking someone to temporarily hand over all customer data is how they usually get enormous volumes of data
robust lichen
noob
vocal basin
guys... hey guys... my ML has solved world hunger.. im so excited to share the n...
the problem mainly is not food amount, the problem is logistics
robust lichen
@vocal basin whats 1375 x 7?
i wanna know
(i know i could use a calculator i just wanna see how smart you are)
vocal basin
9625 if I calculated correctly
I remember what 13*7 is because it's quite frequent
robust lichen
current total capacity of data centres is at several zettabytes
That's the equivalent of 9625 ipads
vocal basin
9625 if I calculated correctly
I'm a mathematician I can't count
vocal basin
there do exist iMac/MacBook datacentres
maybe also iPad ones
to allow to test code on these platforms
also, M1 is quite powerful but is not widely available outside of apple customer products
robust lichen
But if we're being honest the environment for all of those Ipads would have to be huge and the conditions would have to be perfect so they don't get fucked up
vocal basin
and subclasses are subclasses of subclasses
object's direct subclasses are not subclasses of any subclass
@somber heath
to create the instance, it's __new__ not __init__
(me being overly formal again)
object.__new__ is usually called
vocal basin
`object.__new__` is usually called
almost all are based on this specific option
well, yes, there is no specific 'method to create an instance', to be fair
new can return a subclass
and
it will run the init of a superclass
so usually in this cases the init is empty
humble dagger
!voiceverify
vocal basin
!voiceverify
not enough messages + wrong channel
vocal basin
it will run the init of a superclass
this is more used one than returning something of a different class, afaik
!d pathlib.Path
wise cargoBOT
vocal basin
!e
```py
for value in ['a', 'b', 3]:
match value:
case 'a':
print('t...
like this
I got spam in DMs
now I should understand how
apparently, they were on this server and already got kicked/banned
you know what
I join their server and flex on this person because they have less experience and dared to spam
yeah, I prefer that also
there are message requests now
vocal basin
you know what
I join their server and flex on this person because they have less...
they're trying to weasel out of apologising for spam by claiming the socket-puppet account offered to advertise
- it's funny
- I'm wasting their time also
some tiktok account
iirc, phrase "I love undertime slopper" is the promotion of that account which now is a meme
tiktok poses some actual dangers due to unregulated (or, rather, misregulated) algorithm
the algorithm is also impacted by Chinese influence
vocal basin
they're trying to weasel out of apologising for spam by claiming the socket-pupp...
now I'm asking them hard questions like "what databases do you provide integration with"
there is Common SQL but it's quite weak
waltuh whit
vocal basin
there is Common SQL but it's quite weak
remembered that quote:
-- when someone tries to improve a standard, what do you get?
-- a better standard? two standard?
-- NO STANDARD.
vocal basin
now I'm asking them hard questions like "what databases do you provide integrati...
I'm not even going to provide options to choose from
I still have not a single reason to believe they even know how to open an IDE
I'm laughing at my own response; it's such a mean thing to say to someone who believes they can make reliable production software despite it being otherwise;
there is also weird class scope
called namespace, iirc
somber heath
!e py my_list = [1, 2, 3] my_list[:] = 4, 5, 6 print(my_list)
wise cargoBOT
@somber heath :white_check_mark: Your 3.11 eval job has completed with return code 0.
[4, 5, 6]
append not extend?
.append((1,2,3))
that
wait
why is there extend?
oh
understood
why subclass list?
why not store three fields
and do __iter__ if you need
nvm
vocal basin
append not extend?
it's about different
somber heath
!e ```py
class MyClass(tuple):
def init(self):
super().init((1, 2, 3))
mc = MyClass()
print(mc)```
wise cargoBOT
@somber heath :x: Your 3.11 eval job has completed with return code 1.
001 | Traceback (most recent call last):
002 | File "<string>", line 5, in <module>
003 | File "<string>", line 3, in __init__
004 | TypeError: object.__init__() takes exactly one argument (the instance to initialize)
I don't understand why list in the first place
vocal basin
!e ```py
class MyClass(tuple):
def __init__(self):
super().__init__(...
new then?
oh wait
weird
!d collections.UserList
wise cargoBOT
vocal basin
I'm gonna do something even worse
ornate ore
hello
vocal basin
I'm gonna do something even worse
I'm gonna say "we're contracted to use <database name> for all projects we deploy"
with database being the most obscure option I have
vocal basin
with database being the most obscure option I have
it'd be quite a meme to actually pay them to find out what they make out of that
it will directly benefit me because I will get data on how much people are able to learn my self-made database
but I have literally no ways of paying them, so my wallet is saved
undone canopy
hello
flat otter
i dont have permission to speak lol
wise cargoBOT
honest torrent
i dont have permission to speak lol
probs need more than 50 messages
whole bear
i'm muted
somber heath
!voice
wise cargoBOT
honest torrent
😂
whole bear
i have to restart my pc brb
proper cloak
whole bear
anybody who play valorant ?
honest torrent
nice
honest torrent
very cool
honest torrent
anybody who play valorant ?
havent played val in years lol
whole bear
havent played val in years lol
wanna play?
honest torrent
dont have it and on laptop rn
honest torrent
yh started recently tho
whole bear
what langs?
honest torrent
python