pyweek-game-jam

[trim pendant]

Where can I candidate.

[unique glade]

Huh? What do you mean?

[trim pendant]

i want to make a project

[unique glade]

This isn't the right channel for that, you could probably ask in #python-discussion?

[hollow wasp]

When is it

[unique glade]

March 20-27

[torn blaze]

hi''

[onyx basin]

can anyone help me code javascirpt

[woeful tree]

You might be in the wrong channel in the wrong Discord server...

[trim pendant]

lmao

[mossy kraken]

Hi

[chilly bane]

Hello! I would love to join a team, I possibly cannot contribute much (I am noob) but would love to learn from those more experienced! Maybe you have trello or slack and I can watch and learn and do some simple tasks 🙂

[stable kestrel]

@chilly bane Tell me your experience might be able to help you

[chilly bane]

@stable kestrel 👍 my most recent programming experience consists of lots of self taught python code plus a couple of online courses combined with a few small projects/py files! my day job is ecom. What else do you need to know? I am hoping to join a team for game jam. 🙂

[subtle parrot]

guys

i need help

someone plesae help

why is this happening

@lament flint

@rich fog

at first it was my anti virus

( bit defendewr )

but now its not blocking it / as it doesn't show up in the logs

why is this problem occuring its really limiting my coding.

@jolly musk

[keen spade]

@subtle parrot please do not ping people randomly

[subtle parrot]

yes apologies

it's just this problem has been bugging me for a while

[keen spade]

this is also off-topic for this channel, ask in one of the ot-channels

!ot

[proud ruin]

Off-topic channel: #ot2-never-nester’s-nightmare

Please read our off-topic etiquette before participating in conversations.

[subtle parrot]

and i can't seem to figure out why!

oh ok

im new to this server

so i'm still getting used to how things work here

[keen spade]

no worries

[subtle parrot]

so do you know why ^

wait come to

#ot2-never-nester’s-nightmare

[real drum]

To register for pyweek do I got to go to add entry or is it to early to register?

[onyx basin]

It's your wish
Whenever you wanna register you can but not after the registration are closed

[lusty wasp]

You can register whenever you want, even during the challenge

[onyx basin]

Hi I have been studying for a month now, I’m wondering what kind of tools do you have to be familiar to be able to be comfortable making a game in py game week?

[valid prairie]

If you mean libraries, I recommend Pygame
If you mean IDEs, I recommend Visual Studio Code

@woeful tree Can you take a look at my PR that hasn't gotten looked at for 5 months? https://github.com/pyweekorg/cli/pull/4

[valid prairie]

@onyx basin

[woeful tree]

Ok, looking

[valid prairie]

Thanks :)

[woeful tree]

lgtm!

[hollow wasp]

how to i enter

[lusty wasp]

https://pyweek.org/33/entry_add/

[hollow wasp]

is it free to enter?

[cobalt ibex]

Yes

[hollow wasp]

what if you were like oh i cant do this topic can u cancle?

[unkempt apex]

what level of expertise is required for this pyweek event

[unique glade]

None! You can participate regardless of expertise I believe

[unique glade]

There might be a way to unregister on the PyWeek website but I'm not sure

[unkempt apex]

thanks for the info
it's worth giving a shot
the previous submissions are mind blowing!!

[unique glade]

Indeed!

[unkempt apex]

🤯

[woeful tree]

No, but that's not really how it works. You have a week to consider the themes and work out what you can do with each of them (and vote, perhaps based on the strength of your ideas). So at the time the contest starts there's no surprise except which one you are actually going to be asked to deliver

[hollow wasp]

What if you don’t do anything at all

[cobalt ibex]

Then you don't have anything to submit and can't win.

[prisma fox]

@onyx basinnot sure why you posted that.. please don't dump memes/gifs

!warn 685022176193151001 you know there's a reason i deleted your message right? please read our #code-of-conduct

[proud ruin]

:incoming_envelope: :ok_hand: applied warning to @onyx basin.

[orchid lotus]

If you apply do you have to submit something? I have exams that week but i wanted to take part in the jam but i may not be able to make a game if workload gets to hectic

[woeful tree]

The consequence to not submitting is that you get marked as DNF (did not finish).

[haughty folio]

sorry for the ping, but wanted to know if Godot is allowed for the game jam

[woeful tree]

Sure, if you use Godot-Python https://github.com/touilleMan/godot-python

[neon iron]

Something seems off here lol

There’s 2 "2."’s

[vocal wasp]

time to submit some random code to at least make my scores look better >:)

[vocal wasp]

woah

[slender tapir]

will this jam be using a theme or do we make any game as long as it uses python

[vocal wasp]

the theme will be voted later

so uh, former

but you still hv to use python

[dry pebble]

If one is a beginner, then how should you go about this? Can someone share any resources for game development in Python?

[unique glade]

Well, let me put it this way: if you don't think you have enough knowledge to be able to participate, then you still have time to brush up on your skills. You can still join and just try your best. After all, it doesn't necessarily matter whether you win or not. The whole point of PyWeek is to give you an opportunity to write a game in Python, even if you aren't that good, I would say.

In terms of resources, Python Discord has a curated list of them on the website that you can utilize, see the message below for the link.

Hope this helps!

!resources

[proud ruin]

Resources

The Resources page on our website contains a list of hand-selected learning resources that we regularly recommend to both beginners and experts.

[dry pebble]

Woahh thanks a lot for this!

[unique glade]

No problem!

[fringe lagoon]

Guys

There is a pyweek program in the server so is there any prize for the winners

[unique glade]

Yes! 1st place gets the @PyWeek Champions role, 2nd and 3rd place get a subscription to JetBrains or something like that, @hot flume could you fill in?

[hot flume]

The only prize is the <@&721823215340748810> role. There aren't other prizes associated with the game jam.

[vocal wasp]

Is it possible to be in two teams

I'm planning on doing 1 solo and 1 teamed

or is that cheating

[unique glade]

Ah ok

[unique glade]

I don't think that's allowed but idk

[unique glade]

Oh you know what, I was thinking about the Code Jam 😅

[vocal wasp]

sadge

any requirements on code quality? id like to do something #esoteric-python

[keen spade]

no requirements

[woeful tree]

That is allowed, though it isn't necessarily a good idea

[woeful tree]

It isn't judged on code quality and very few people even look, unless they are curious how something was done

[kind umbra]

with pyweek, are you allowed to use renpy?

[neon iron]

If I’m working solo, should I just have the link/team name be my user?

[buoyant heron]

what happens if there's like a team with exactly one person in it

if that can happen i dont remember things

[unique glade]

Well then it wouldn't be a team really 😅

And it can certainly happen yeah!

[neon iron]

Are there any awards for the winners of pyweek?

[unique glade]

Just the @PyWeek Champions role for 1st place

[neon iron]

Alr nice, sounds better than there actually being prizes. That sounds like itd make this a lot more competitive

[vocal wasp]

then it should be counted as solo I think

[vocal wasp]

you can have it whatever you want :)

[woeful tree]

I would say not. Writing a game in Ren'Py involves very little Python code. It's also Python 2, still, AFAIK. So it breaks rule 9 on two counts. That said, I'm not the final arbiter; whether a game is disqualified or not is up to other entrants when they come to judge.

I would also guess that you would struggle at least for innovation scores with a Ren'Py game

[kind umbra]

That's fair

[frosty field]

can I ask

how can I entry?

[cobalt ibex]

Check the pins and topic, there are links there

[frosty field]

idk what to do after signing in

[vocal wasp]

Create entry

probably

[frosty field]

yeah I figured that out myself

[deep crystal]

@valid prairie I'm trying to run your PyWeek32 entry and having a little trouble. Do you want me to DM you more info, or post it to the entry diary, or something else? Thanks.

[valid prairie]

DM would be great!

I feel bad for not having worked on it since like 2-3 months after PyWeek 32, but that's longer than most people keep working on their submissions I think

[deep crystal]

If you entered PyWeek 32 and you wished you'd gotten more ratings from other players: link me to your entry and I'll try to get it running now. That way I'll have a better chance of being able to run and rate your PyWeek 33 entry.

[neon iron]

So what might the theme look like this year? What have they been in the past?

[vocal wasp]

you can check the previous challenges on the page :P

[dreamy dirge]

Is it possible to make something simple in 2 weeks if i only know a bit of python

To learn and make *

[harsh summit]

Can i register for both individual and team or is that not possible

And can we use any open source blender character design??

[neon iron]

I believe you can be in multiple teams, yes

[neon iron]

It should be, yeah. The only way you can loose is if you don’t try

[dreamy dirge]

Yeah

[dreamy dirge]

Are there set dates if so when is the next one?

[keen spade]

20-27 march

[dreamy dirge]

After that i meant

Also when i submit do i need to send a exe or a itch.io page or how does that work

[keen spade]

you can upload an exe, or you can also upload the source files with running instructions if you like

[keen spade]

dont think the next one has been scheduled yet

[vocal wasp]

can I submit two entries with a similar game but different mode?

or should that be kept in one instead of two

[neon iron]

Couldnt the player select which mode in game?

[vocal wasp]

e.e forgor that

time to delete my entry if it's ok to

[neon iron]

I think you can have multiple entries tho. But maybe having one bug entry would be better

[vocal wasp]

ooo

[vocal wasp]

mind elaborate 🥺

I lv stwealing ideas

[neon iron]

It might look better if your modes are both available in the same thing, that way the people playing only have to download one thing

[vocal wasp]

:)

[valid prairie]

I don't think source is optional, right?

[valid prairie]

PyWeek is only 1 week long. If you start during voting week, you'll be disqualified.

[dreamy dirge]

no i didnt mean it like that im pretty new to python and coding in general what i meant was is it possible to learn python in 2 weeks enough to make something for the pyweek

i couldnt start even if i wanted to bc i dont know anything

[hollow lily]

I think the current rules around Python version are a little unclear. Rule 9 says ‘[(a)] Entries must run using the latest version of Python. [(b)] Entries must not require end-of-life versions of Python. [(c)] See the Python Dev Guide for which Python versions are allowed.’ I may be misunderstanding this, but it seems to me like (a) implies (b), (c) implies (b), but (a) and (c) are incompatible, because it’s ambiguous as to whether, currently, a game that runs only on Python 3.9 is allowed.

[frosty field]

You've learnt pygame for 2 weeks and scared you can't complete a pyweek project? If that's the case then the answer is you still can try, it's not like we'll stop you

[onyx basin]

you can also make a game using print() and input()

which I might just

only use builtin things

[dreamy dirge]

I havent yet i have 2 weeks to learn it

[wooden spruce]

The website says registrations are open, but how to do you actually register?

[onyx basin]

top right corner to register an account, then after logging in, click on username top right corner > register entry

[wooden spruce]

Got it. Thanks

[frosty field]

You can do whatever, what I'm saying is no one will stop you if you still want to do it

[vocal wasp]

can I make or use my own module during pyweek

I feel like I cant

because it passed 30 days

like packing the builds into an installer

I've heard that nsis often have false positive for viruses :/

[valid prairie]

If it's more than 30 days old and is usable by other people, go ahead and use it!

And you can make whatever you want during the 7 days that are PyWeek

[sweet mica]

regarding that, i have some old code(~60 lines) that i want to use when making this new game can it be used?

[valid prairie]

I'm not sure

It's probably fine, but it's up to the judges (other competitors) if they think it's fine

[lusty wasp]

Not unless at least 30 days before the challenge it was publicly available where others could see it and documented

I wouldn't if you're in doubt, and if it's just 60 lines wouldn't that take just a few minutes to rewrite anyway?

[onyx basin]

not on a pinephone keyboard

it takes a lot longer to type things but you also start thinking more

[sweet mica]

rewrite it? umm so I can just see the code and rewrite it? isn't that the same as copying

[onyx basin]

I've always found this a cool rule, but it's also kind of vague.

someone with good memory could remember whole blocks of code and type them out when the jam starts

[neon iron]

So does it exclude like templates as well? I made a pygame template that sets up pretty much everything, like the player class, creating text, making buttons, etc. Should I just rewrite that? Seems kinda useless, as that’s just less time I have to actually make a game

[valid prairie]

What's your template's page?

I'd say it's probably fine

@neon iron

[neon iron]

I’ll send when i get home

[lusty wasp]

It's not OK unless it's documented and published well in advance. Everyone needs to start with the same baseline.

It would otherwise be unfair to people who don't have such a template.

[valid prairie]

Well I had such a template my first PyWeek

From Google

[somber finch]

excited for this pyweek. my first pyweek my team fell apart so hoping this one will go better lol

[neon iron]

Alr, i think i can recreate it better anyways

I made a method using a lambda XD

[vocal wasp]

This asset pack can be used in both free and commercial projects. You can modify it to suit your own needs. Credit is not needed but appreciated. You may not redistribute it or resell it.
can i use it 🤔

that's the license's description

im not sure if its CCed or others

[lusty wasp]

"You may not redistribute it"; if this means you can't distribute it as part of your game's source code then people can't run your game from source. @vocal wasp

[vocal wasp]

thx for reading it!

[brisk dome]

Hello guys

what is this channel about ?

[vocal wasp]

PyWeek 33 is currently planned for March 20-27, 2022.

PyWeek is a twice-a-year game jam that has been running for the past 15 years. Starting on the first day of the jam you start coding, designing, and developing your game. This can be done as an individual or with a team. By the end of the 7 days you must submit your entry on the PyWeek website for it to be counted as a valid submission. Visit https://pyweek.org/33 for more details!

[brisk dome]

Oh Okey , Ill participate this year 😊

[onyx basin]

nice

i like it

[neon iron]

Dont forget to register for the event if you havent already

[brisk dome]

Sure ! 😊

[onyx basin]

the potential themes are unveiled soon aaah hype

[woeful tree]

Themes have been drawn and uploaded and about 4 of them are really good

[stable iris]

hey guys

can anyone go through how to sign up to the game jam?

[neon iron]

First, go to the site and make an account. Should see something in the top right that says "register". Then, press your account name in the same spot. Then, press "Register entry" and fill out the info there

[neon iron]

Where do you see those?

[woeful tree]

The admin dashboard

[thorn hatch]

Hi

[woeful tree]

Hi!

[neat kayak]

Wait what, we can build games using python ?

[brisk dome]

It's 2022 😄

[neon iron]

You can do anything with python 🙌

Just sometimes too slowly lol

[neat kayak]

BREH

[woeful tree]

Whoops, something wasn't linked up right for the themes to go live. Fixed!

[wooden rampart]

thanks

[blissful compass]

who wants to look at the game i've coded so far

[neon iron]

Aloft sounds best ngl

Even flappy bird would be counted as aloft lol

[limber orbit]

that's probably one of the things they went for when picking the themes

[vocal wasp]

eivl-twin

😈

[idle star]

If you are looking for how-to example code and tutorials on Python game making, see https://arcade.academy

[foggy stratus]

"I am become Death" 🥴

[leaden steppe]

should i participate in game jam?

[foggy stratus]

Sure, why not

[leaden steppe]

because i have only made & finished one python game using pygame

[hard garnet]

Does everyone who joined have experience in pygame?

F it. Speedrun pygame documentation

[clear nacelle]

where can i signup with a team?

[vocal wasp]

Create Entry works

or you can join others entries

[narrow furnace]

How can i know if i am registered or not?

[onyx basin]

spring vs autumn hrmmmmmm

how romantic

[stoic heart]

i am become death 🛐

[onyx basin]

I can’t seem to register, am I too late?

[vocal wasp]

no

wdym can't register

[vocal wasp]

you will see your entries in list

[onyx basin]

The faq says to register, I don’t see an option on the website to do so

[vocal wasp]

click your account and check if there's a 33 entry

[vocal wasp]

right top corner

@onyx basin

[onyx basin]

Ah so I just needed to make an account? That’s grand so, I thought I had to register an entry

[vocal wasp]

you also need to do that

[onyx basin]

I’ll wait til I’m on my computer, might be my phone’s problem

[lusty wasp]

You have to register an entry but there's no hurry, you can do it during the challenge even

[onyx basin]

Ah cool, thanks

[neon iron]

Doesnt even need to be a video game. A text game works too

Honestly id sign up even if youre just starting out with python, then you can just play a bunch of games people made lol

And vote on them ofc

[onyx basin]

This’ll be my first game jam so I’m looking forward to this

[narrow furnace]

Is it where it says "your latest entries"

[onyx kraken]

the all-knowing language

[neon iron]

Technically you can do anything in any Turing complete lang, it just might be extremely slow and use tons of memory

[onyx basin]

You cannot run a nuclear power plant in python I don't think

or is it 'should not'?

[vocal wasp]

probably

yeah there

if you see 33 that means you have an entry

[narrow furnace]

Oh, i was so scared that i wouldn't figure it out

[neat glen]

challenge accepted

[vocal wasp]

😱

[gritty trellis]

Topic: Spring vs Autumn
what does it mean exactly? im puzzled (pong pls)

[wide nest]

I have no idea

[verbal chasm]

i was wondering if there is a prize in py game jam?

[lusty wasp]

As in, the seasons of spring and fall.

Interpret it beyond that as you wish.

[lusty wasp]

The prize is the satisfaction of having won the challenge.

[verbal chasm]

👍

[vocal wasp]

you'll also get a role here

[neon iron]

You gotta figure out what it means to you (if that theme is chosen)

[vast hamlet]

so you mean vauge to the point where it's actually just confusing

[neon iron]

Id use the word "broad", but ye

Anyways, that’s only 1/5 themes, so we might not even have it

[onyx bone]

are you allowed to use pygame for the game jam

[lusty wasp]

Yes

[fringe oak]

What winners get from this pyweek-game ?

[lusty wasp]

@fringe oak

[fringe oak]

This is enough.
Have fun everyone

[gritty trellis]

oh alright.

[gritty trellis]

thanks

[fringe oak]

what does this theme mean "Aloft" ?

[lusty wasp]

So, up in the air, I guess.

[neon iron]

The interpretation of it is completely up to you

[mint trout]

How to join s pyweek jam?

[spare thunder]

#pyweek-faq

[worldly zealot]

Would I be allowed to use the os library just to clear the windows terminal console? Thinking of a "text-based adventure game" Though I feel I shouldn't.

[vocal wasp]

sure, I think. but there are better options out there, cls or clear is too flashy

maybe you can use some TUI frameworks

pydis's code jam 8 have a list iirc

[worldly zealot]

oh, okay! cool thanks!

[frosty field]

What is the topic "I am become death"?

[vocal wasp]

you can interpret it the way you want ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[jaunty cipher]

"I am become Death" is a quote from the Bhagavad Gita, a Hindu(?) religious text. It was recalled by Oppenheimer upon the detonation of the first atomic bomb.

It's an excellent line.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lb13ynu3Iac

I don't know much about the Gita, just last week I picked up a copy; it's been on my list for a number of years.

[woeful tree]

Beware that many other entrants reviewing your games will not be using Windows. You should probably avoid writing terminal control stuff from scratch and look for a cross-platform library to do it

[worldly zealot]

Yeah thanks! I'll keep that mind

[dapper rune]

@jaunty cipher If you do want to understand the Gita, I would refer you to Swami Anubhav Anand if you understand hindi. Honestly a lot of these Gita gurus make it super sexist and take it in the wrong way. And definitely Quora is a no go.

[neon iron]

Idk, that seems like smth a bit too serious to make a video game abt

[lusty wasp]

Yeah, not a great timing to be making games about massacres and/or nuclear war

[neon iron]

Not sure how that made it into the final few, there’s likely people in this server even thatve been affected by the events the quote is abt

[woeful tree]

I think it's never great timing to be making games about massacres, and it's the perfect timing to be making games about the dangers of nuclear war

[lusty wasp]

I can't speak for others but my appetite to make a game around that theme is about nil at the moment.

I will probably do something whimsical like: you are Death and you were supposed to reap a litter of kittens, but take pity on them, and the whole game is then about secretly raising kittens.

[dusty mist]

a game about a dude called Brandon Dean but autocorrect fucked up his name on his birth certificate

[vocal wasp]

challenge accepted

[jaunty cipher]

I feel like I should get this reference but my brain is stuck on a College Sim called Random Dean.

I think games can be art, and Art has a special place in the world if it's handled appropriately. Pyweek certainly feels a bit centered on python and fun (being one of the criteria for scoring), as opposed to bold political statements, but a full experience could include some sort of meaning.

@dapper rune Sadly, I only have one language under my belt, and I didn't do any research about translations, just stumbled across it on the shelf. But a quick scan of the translator's introduction had a passage where he(?) was conflicted about the engendered passages and practically begged the reader to take the wholeness of gender(?) from some other passages or text into account when reading the prose. So, thank you; cultural or religious texts have so much history, depth and context that they are difficult to understand to any real degree for outsiders and I'll certainly keep that concern in mind when I read it!

[sweet mica]

did you join solo?

[lusty wasp]

I'll probably go solo this time if I participate yeah

[sweet mica]

hmm nice

[prisma topaz]

.

[bronze swallow]

hi all good ? peoples

[frosty field]

When will we get to know the theme?

[vocal wasp]

3/20

[frosty field]

ok

[woeful tree]

@lusty wasp How easy is it to get a Panda3D game running on Android?

[lusty wasp]

@woeful tree as of very recently the process is pretty easy but there are still some very significant bugs, wouldn't recommend it until those are fixed

[woeful tree]

Oooh

You need to get people using it to shake out the bugs

[lusty wasp]

https://discourse.panda3d.org/t/deployment-for-android/28226

Yeah, though I'm already aware of the bugs, they are just hard to fix

[tough shale]

Hello all

I am new to pyweek

Can anyone tell me what is it?

Is it a game jam? If so what is reward for winner?

[lusty wasp]

It is a game jam, there is no reward

[vocal wasp]

a role here

[neon iron]

Feeling of accomplishment

[toxic laurel]

When is it starting

[lusty wasp]

Sunday

[neon iron]

Ghost ping 👀

[ebon kite]

can i make text based game

[lusty wasp]

Yes, you can, as long as it's in Python

[idle star]

If you are looking for help getting started, there's a whole tutorial on creating a platformer game here: https://api.arcade.academy/en/latest/examples/platform_tutorial/index.html

[onyx basin]

I can’t sign up did I miss the deadline?

[woeful tree]

You should be able to sign up, it's "Register Entry" from the hamburger menu at the top right once you are logged in

[onyx basin]

I only see this

Nvm I found it

[onyx basin]

Grammar

[jaunty cipher]

I might try to make a VN (Choose Your Own Adventure), any recommendations for a framework that works for the challenge (ideally: a single package)?

[neon iron]

Like a text based cyoa?

If you just want plain text, you just use print ig. Not sure what youd do to have pictures

[valid prairie]

ANSI art

Colorama could be used for Windows support

[woeful tree]

Please can you report this on the GitHub tracker? https://github.com/pyweekorg/pyweekorg/issues

[onyx basin]

hello everybody, this is going to be my first pyweek!!! ✨ so exited!! im only wondering if im good enough to participate..... is that a problem?

[vocal wasp]

there's always time for you to try, don't hesitate

[onyx basin]

ooh ill try, glad it isnt a problem ✨

[narrow furnace]

You don't have to be good to join the game jam, the point of a game jam is to have fun and learn

[neon iron]

That’s part of the reason there’s no big prize, it keeps the competition friendly

[open leaf]

Just gotta have fun m8

And don't make someone's pc decompose cuz you coded something too amazing 😎

[vocal wasp]

the tension

[neon iron]

Under 24 hrs till it starts right?

[vocal wasp]

yesh

[sweet mica]

there are a lot of solo entries this time

[onyx basin]

hmmm ok so basically we have to make a game right?
but what to do after finnishing coding ?

[vocal wasp]

submit

:)

then we'll judge each other

[onyx basin]

Not too long til it starts, looking forward to this

[neon iron]

3 hrs right?

Aiming to be in the top 80

[onyx basin]

I'll be happy just to submit something lol

[neon iron]

Basically the same im going for, theres only 85 entries so far lol. Top 80 isnt a huge accomplishment

[idle star]

Don't forget, lots of example code here you can use: https://api.arcade.academy/en/latest/examples/index.html

[chrome thicket]

this is so useful, thanks!

[onyx basin]

Is there like a channel or video that will play for this event?

[unique glade]

What do you mean?

[onyx basin]

Like is there a YouTube video or something like other jams

Or is there just a message in #pyweek-33-announcements

[unique glade]

Yeah I think it's just that, but @hot flume can you confirm?

But I'm still not sure what kind of a video you're talking about

[onyx basin]

when will the theme release

what time

[real eagle]

The website seems to indicate that it's at <t:1647734400:R>, but I may be wrong

[real eagle]

It's a 7 day long event (for coding, anyway), so no, there's not a stream during the coding

we will periodically post announcements as to the status of the jam, though

[onyx basin]

ah ty

ty

[onyx basin]

5 minutes!

[vocal wasp]

countdown

[onyx basin]

4 minutes.......

[onyx basin]

Oh youve started me now

imma do a countdown

[vocal wasp]

lmao

[onyx basin]

3 minutes!

[foggy stratus]

7 day live stream 😩

[onyx basin]

2 minutes!

wait

DAMMIT
MY PC CLOCK IS FAST

[vocal wasp]

lmao

[onyx basin]

1 MINUTE...

[vocal wasp]

👀

[onyx basin]

Its time! (also Sunday but who cares lmao)

[vocal wasp]

my evil twin

👀

[onyx basin]

👀

hmmm

this will be intresting

damm idk what to do

[vocal wasp]

me keep refreshing https://pyweek.org/ moment lmao

[onyx basin]

Best of luck everyone

[foggy stratus]

ey

[real eagle]

My evil twin it is!

[onyx basin]

oh god

now I have to make models

uh

time to use boxes

[vocal wasp]

🎉

[onyx basin]

good luck yal!

huh

this is going better than I expected

I'm happy it didn't land on spring vs autumn, I didn't have any concrete ideas for it

[valid prairie]

I hope what's going on now isn't a vision of what's to come

Pip has takes 2 minutes to print a collecting message and do nothing else

Finally did something

[onyx basin]

smae

[neon iron]

Good luck everyone!

Hopefully u guys are better off than me, i have no clue what my game should be about lol

[onyx basin]

Mines going well

Except it’s 1 am and I can’t survive without sleep

[neon iron]

Rip

[onyx basin]

Wait

Oh no

I’ve made a terrible mistake

I just remembered I have school this week

The jam week

We’ll time to go lick door handles

[hot flume]

Just ask someone on the Events Team. I am generally unavailable until April

[onyx basin]

aaaah only 6 days, 23 hours and 19 minutes to gooooo

coding intensifies

[neon iron]

Lol my thoughts exactly

I have a whopping 0 lines of code written so far

And no ideas lol

[onyx basin]

I have less

zero?

I have damn class this week

[onyx basin]

if you need someone to throw the idea-ball around with i'm here

[neon iron]

Im bad at coming up w stuff on the spot, might think of smth when going to sleep (thats when i fix like 90% of my bugs lol)

[onyx basin]

same xD

I do all my hard work when I'm asleep

[onyx basin]

Same

Hmm

How do I calculate colliding

[neon iron]

W what framework?

Pygame?

[onyx basin]

Ye

[neon iron]

Theres a bunch of different funcs, what would be colliding? A sprite w a sprite, line w a sprite, point on a line, etc?

[onyx basin]

Box

So

A Rect

[neon iron]

One sec, ima check

[neon iron]

pygame.Rect.colliderect
test if two rectangles overlap

[onyx basin]

There’s a function for it?

I though I would have to do math

[neon iron]

It does the math for u but in c i believe

Found it in https://www.pygame.org/docs/ref/rect.html

[onyx basin]

Oh god

Now I need to figure out a lambda

[neon iron]

Theres also Rect.contains to see if a rect is inside another, but not touching the sides

[neon iron]

One line function that can be made and called without a name

[onyx basin]

Wait

I can use a [for] thing

[neon iron]

For loop?

Or list comp

[onyx basin]

Idek

[onyx basin]

I need to run this for every item in a dict while being pretty inside a if

Wait I can use a function

I’m an idiot

[neon iron]

Alr well gl

Ima get to brainstorming

[onyx basin]

Ok

Imma

Sleep

Lmao

[neon iron]

Lol fair

[onyx basin]

for two unrotated rects you can also just do if a_x > b_x and a_x < b_x+b_w and the same with y

[onyx basin]

Uh

Function

That looks to complicated

[neon iron]

Isnt that essentially what colliderect does?

[unique glade]

Oh alright, sounds good.

[onyx basin]

no idea

I haven't used pygame in forever

Well, I have my idea at least, started some pixel art for it

I made a little test level

Very nice

Only have this so far

log('nice')

love that dither

Thanks 😁 still getting used to pixel art but feel good about that one

Is yours gonna be 3D?

yes

the actual game rules will be 2d though

[neon iron]

My game prob wont be that original

Kinda wanna try out some 2d platform/shooter mechanics

Dont wanna give too much away/give others ideas lol

[onyx basin]

platformer shooters are great

fun to work on too once you have the shooting enemies part in

I should keep my ideas a bit secret too at least until everyone is settled on theirs >.<

[neon iron]

Alr ima start making some sprites :)

Just hope a week will be enough for me to get all this done

[onyx basin]

keep it simple

[onyx basin]

I'm gonna really undershoot it this time (got burned-out last pyweek)

It's my first game jam so I'll be learning the whole way til the end

[neat kayak]

How do we make games on python.

I knew that it can be used for automation but games???

[real eagle]

You can use libraries like pygame, arcade, pyglet, panda3d, ursina, and others.

[neat kayak]

How tha hell ?

[neat kayak]

Oh

Docs available for them for free ?

[vocal wasp]

never heard of paid docs but

yeah they're free

[neat kayak]

me neither but the librarie's names sound so sounds so "price-y"

So I just wondered XD

I wanna like see a game code myself

When will there be showcase ?

[neon iron]

We judge each others next sunday

[neon iron]

Snake game i made a while ago https://replit.com/@Anonymous4045/Snake-Remastered#main.py

Idk if u should use it as an example or anything tho

[neat kayak]

yea me gonna learn for your code good sir/madam, thank you !

[neon iron]

I mean id recommend you watch a tutorial of some sort, where they can explain what each part does. I dont rlly have time to do that atm

[onyx basin]

I've never even heard of paid python libs :P

[vocal wasp]

time to make one >:)

[foggy stratus]

I guess there's API's which might cost money, so you'd need to pay before using a wrapper

[lime elm]

Ive got a great idea for this but idk if ill have the time to actually learn or even do python game dev

[surreal plover]

how to enter

[lime elm]

#pyweek-faq

[surreal plover]

thanks

[surreal plover]

i can help a bit

[lime elm]

Im ok, id prefer to do it as a solo experience and if i get it done cool, if not its not the end of the world

[neon iron]

You can always work on it after, even if not many others will see it

[vocal wasp]

oh i cant figure to do some code lmao

ima play some codewars

:/

[lime elm]

This is also true, how easy is it to incorporate online things into python games?

Not necesarily multiplayer just online functions like global leaderboards or something along those lines?

[onyx basin]

It's easy for some people (not for me though)

What's the topic for this year????

[jaunty cipher]

"My Evil Twin"

[onyx basin]

Ooooh

I have the idea for it but i don't have coding skills

[jaunty cipher]

Eh, I had high hopes but I think time is a little low. With hindsight, I should have read up on these libs last few weeks, and joined a team to provide "creative consulting/play testing" and voting/critique.

[onyx basin]

I can always use help from play testers

but that's more for thursday

[jaunty cipher]

I'm just Linux but Thursday is my weekend so happy to get involved and help as much as poss.
I think I've found your username on pyweek, z, but not sure if I missed the cut-off to join any team. Happy to do all the diary entries as an outsider if you want to just focus on the game dev. Impressive portfolio you have there.
Otherwise just DM, I check my messages semi-frequently across ever-changing timezones (UTC 1700-0800 atm).

[hollow ivy]

and I don't have idea 😩

I mean, I do but I need to think about it again

[umbral steppe]

Does anyone have deeper insights into the popular python game frameworks? I'm currently looking at Pygame, Pygame-Zero, and Pyglet. Pyglet and Pygame-Zero seem to have solid docs.

My team has deeply seasoned professional software engineers. But we haven't done much or any game programming. I'd appreciate any words or direction from the community ❤️

[young harness]

Our team is using python arcade

but in the end, it really depends on what type of game you're making

[umbral steppe]

Yeah I figured this was the truth. I’ll look into python arcade.

[misty cloak]

This looks cool

[lusty wasp]

Oh no, it's my least favourite theme 😩 I might have to skip this one unless some brilliant idea somehow still pops into my head

[vocal wasp]

!e

head = ["ideas"]
head.pop()
print(head)

[proud ruin]

@vocal wasp :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.

[]

[vocal wasp]

popped

😉

jk, good luck thinking

[lusty wasp]

IndexError: pop from empty head

[vocal wasp]

laugh my head off

[sweet mica]

i actually had two ideas for this theme

and two for i become death

[onyx basin]

Kind of disappointing we can only hook up our Microsoft Github™️ repo to our pyweek pages.

[smoky dune]

sorry late entry but I'd like to join a team
given my uni schedule I can't possibly do this alone
I applied to one of the open teams, how does it work?
hopefully not too late tho, im kinda interested to participate and gain some experience

[onyx basin]

I thought your least favorite theme was I Am Become Death ;)

@smoky dune #948003874130771988

[lusty wasp]

No, I was going to do some anti-game for that where you played Death and had to decide whether people went to heaven or hell a la Papers, Please

[smoky dune]

ah, right team forming

[onyx basin]

aw dang

[vocal wasp]

woah, that sounds interesting

currently peeking in this channels for ideas

[lusty wasp]

But that's off the table now... unless I somehow work an evil twin into that

[vocal wasp]

two papers :)

on the double

[onyx basin]

perhaps reincarnation is the evil twin

that's what I would have done with that theme, a dr mario-esque puzzle game with death, preparing souls and reincarnating them

I even drew this sketch for it

[lusty wasp]

Heh, do you get to decide what animal to reincarnate them as?

[onyx basin]

that would have been great

[onyx basin]

perhaps a papers,please but you play as a conjoined twin

[lusty wasp]

One would have to be evil

[onyx basin]

yes, or at the very least evil towards the other

[lusty wasp]

Like a gollum-smeagol creature

[onyx basin]

evil can be quite relative

[hazy zenith]

can i use pygame for the pyweek 33

[lusty wasp]

Yes

[hazy zenith]

yayaa

[vocal wasp]

right ima just make an evil game copy of wordle

because im lazy 😎

[onyx basin]

haha wordle's evil twin?

[vocal wasp]

exactly

:)

[onyx basin]

I don't know, but my guess is it's fine

[neon iron]

I appreciate how chill everyone is, from my experience when it comes to competitions, usually it’s a lot more competative

[sweet mica]

i mean i can only see like 2-3 people in chat when there are more than like 20 entries or something like that

[onyx basin]

from my experience the python gamedev community is very chill and friendly

we all just want to see cool games written in our favorite language

[neon iron]

85 i think. Not sure how many will make a game tho

[sweet mica]

thats alot

[neon iron]

Changed to 91

You can check them all by going to the entries page on the site

[onyx basin]

I'm not sure I can judge that many entries >.<

[neon iron]

Yeah same lol

How many is it usually?

[onyx basin]

better add some intriguing screenshots to help convince people to play mine

not sure, I count like 1,2,some,many

[neon iron]

XD

I doubt it was ever some, so ill go with >4 ig lol

[onyx basin]

last time it was 40

[neon iron]

More than doubled this time, dang

Alr, ima be productive now

[onyx basin]

Not everyone will finish something. It would be interesting to see all the stats.

[vocal wasp]

meanwhile me forking random react projects and dump it to flask and call it an end

[onyx basin]

and yeah me too. I have bullets to sling around the room

[onyx basin]

Not sure this is in spirit of the jam. The game part has to be written in python during pyweek.

[sweet mica]

my game will not have best graphics(making graphics in gimp/synfig is hard) but it will sure be an interesting one

[onyx basin]

interesting gameplay is the most important part

aaah ok ok bullets

[sweet mica]

i will try to upload an gameplay instead of screenshots because my graphics will definitly not catch an eye

[vocal wasp]

yeah >:)

[vocal wasp]

mspaint supermacy

[sweet mica]

mspaint doesn't exist in my world(os)

[vocal wasp]

sad

[onyx basin]

there's kolourpaint if you don't care about the kde dependencies

unless you're on apple nvm

it's basically mspaint++

[sweet mica]

oh cool

i downloaded pinta i can't rotate a shape without separating the shape into a new layer and then flattening it

[onyx basin]

omg

this text

refuses to render

finally worked

Was hoping to get more done last night but ended up falling asleep

[sweet mica]

        self.manager = arcade.gui.UIManager(window=parent_window)
        self.manager.enable()

        self.v_box = arcade.gui.UIBoxLayout()
        manage_building_button = arcade.gui.UIFlatButton(text="Manage Buildings", width=200, x=100, y=100)
        self.v_box.add(manage_building_button)
        manage_building_button.on_click = self._on_click_manage_building

        self.manager.add(
            arcade.gui.UIAnchorWidget(
                child=self.v_box)
        )

I have this code for a button in arcade but the button isn't placing at x=100 and y=100, it is always placing at (443, 326) no matter whatever value i give

[onyx basin]

Fr a cool idea for the theme would be like the traditional snake game but a mirror of ur snake on the other side of the screen would be chasing after the same fruit you go after

And have to like trick its AI to get all the fruits first

Too bad I'm not at the level of ascension where I can make games yet

[neon iron]

Wait thats actually a good idea lol

[ocean haven]

Just getting started here. I can already feel the scope creep 😅

[neon iron]

Too late for me to change tho. + i alr did snake, and dont like it too much

[onyx basin]

Someday I'm gonna learn how to make games

[ocean haven]

@onyx basin Yeah, I really like that snake idea!

[neon iron]

Why not make that day today?

[onyx basin]

Because I'm still learning how to make a calculator on python 😅

[neon iron]

You could make a text game, just using prints, ifs, and elses

[onyx basin]

I might try to like make that idea a reality at some point but definitely won't make it to the pyweek game jam

[ocean haven]

@onyx basin If you ok with trying the pyxel engine, it has an example snake game that's a little less than 300 lines of code. Could be a good starting place for you: https://github.com/kitao/pyxel

[onyx basin]

Excuse me... 300? Uhhhh

That's kinda long

But then again

Each line is a seperate command

[ocean haven]

True, it may be a little long for someone just learning Python. A text game could be an easier lift for you.

For what it's worth, here's a link to the source code: https://github.com/kitao/pyxel/blob/main/pyxel/examples/07_snake.py

[neon iron]

Gotta agree w you there, i made a version of snake w even more features than the original (it had pacman rules+speed boost from apples) with half that many lines lol

[onyx basin]

The part that actually looks freaky is making the AI part

To have it move on its own and stuff

[neon iron]

I mean not hugely. You just check if the snake head is lower or higher than the apple, then move either up or down depending on that (if you can). Obviously, this snake will die pretty quickly because it traps itself, but thats kinda the point is the player wins, not the bot

[ocean haven]

(also left or right depending)

[neon iron]

Yeah mb

[onyx basin]

What would a command like that look like

At the start of making your own games, you can fake AI, no need for path finding or stuff like that, just ifs

[neon iron]

Ppl tend to hear "ai" and think of a rlly complex, humanlike thing, but really pretty much anything that takes in input and gives a specified output could be considered a low level ai

[onyx basin]

I feel like Simple thing like AI for snake would just be if commands right

Or still abit more than that

[ocean haven]

# somewhere inside game loop (i.e. a frame in your 60fps game)

# Move the snake vertically towards the apple
if evil_snake.y_position < apple.y_position:
    evil_snake.y_position += 1
elif evil_snake.y_position > apple.y_position:
    evil_snake.y_position -= 1

# Move the snake horizontally towards the apple
if evil_snake.x_position < apple.x_position:
    evil_snake.x_position += 1
elif evil_snake.x_position > apple.x_position:
    evil_snake.x_position -= 1

[sweet mica]

just use A* algorithm for path finding for the ai

[neon iron]

Roughly```py
if bot.x > apple.x and bot.can_move_left():
bot.move_left(p
elif bot.x < apple.x and bot.can_move_right():
bot.move_right()

[onyx basin]

https://c.tenor.com/wamL_NeO8-wAAAAM/bunnies-what.gif

I can kinda comprehend it

[neon iron]

Gotta check if there isnt a segment where you want to move

[onyx basin]

But

The <> symbols really puts me off

[neon iron]

Greater or less than

[ocean haven]

Ah, "<" means less than , ">" means greater than

[neon iron]

Yeah

[onyx basin]

And there purpose is?

[sweet mica]

2 > 3 will return false and 2< 3 will return true

to move towards the target

[neon iron]

Well on a game screen, you measure things by position from the top left usually, so 50 pixels down and left from there is (50, 50), kinda like a coordinate plane

[sweet mica]

and change directions accordingly

[neon iron]

You can also compare those coordinates, to find when something is to the right, left, above, or below something else

[onyx basin]

Y'know what for a little bit of ease I'm gonna try to open the snake program later and see what u guys mean

So that

I can follow

Live

And see it visually

[sweet mica]

ok

[onyx basin]

So it's supposed to tell it where to go?

[neon iron]

If you want i can send the replit of the snake thing i made too, it lets u run it and see the files

[neon iron]

Essentially, yeah

[onyx basin]

Ohhhhhh

[neon iron]

Ima send the logic i made for a pong game

[onyx basin]

What about something like this when its vertical

Still has ><

[sweet mica]

yes, if the snake's y coordinate is above the apple's then it goes down

if evil_snake.y_position > apple.y_position:
    evil_snake.y_position -= 1

[neon iron]

Wait bad example lol

[onyx basin]

Oh I kinda get how it works now

[neon iron]

Yeah nvm, i thought i did smth better. Basically it just follows the boll lol

[onyx basin]

So like the >< vertically is essentially just sideways of up and down?

[neon iron]

Well it’s comparing two numbers. When those numbers happen to be coordinates, you can check that, yes

[onyx basin]

So like if I wanted to go up its < and to go down > ?

And whether its vertical or horizontal depends on their current position

Right

[neon iron]

If you wanted to go up x amount of pixels, you would add x to the y cord

Same with down

[onyx basin]

So like xy?

[neon iron]

For left/right, you add/subtract to the x cord

[onyx basin]

Ohhhhhhhhhh

[neon iron]

If by that you mean a coordinate plane, ye

[onyx basin]

I feel my coding knowledge horizons growing

It feels totally great

And doesn't give me a headache at all

[neon iron]

2d games are basically just graphs, but you can have pictures on things, and can manipulate everything

[neon iron]

Lol

[onyx basin]

Ight bet I gotta take a shower quickly I'm so gonna try this tysm

Is it recommended to do the diaries?

Hi Zilgon

Uhh somehow I’m almost done

Really? Fair play

[onyx basin]

Guess I can add luxuries like multiplayer and stuff

Oh for sure, ever bit of polish helps

change it so it’s not comicsans

[sweet mica]

yes

[onyx basin]

Wondering, does anyone have any good tutorials or papers on procedural generation?

[glad moat]

what is pyweek?

[narrow furnace]

A game jam that is from march 20 till march 27
(1 week), you have to use a python
library/module to make a game like (pygame, pyglet, ursina, panda 3d, etc...) You can check the rules and more at https://pyweek.org/

(Question) can i use copy/paste [from the same file], i don't want to load every image specifically

[onyx basin]

So you want certain files to load? Put their names in a list and iterate over them

[narrow furnace]

That's a way

Thanks

[onyx basin]

No worries

[neon iron]

You can c/p if you wrote it in the last day

[narrow furnace]

That's good

[valid prairie]

pain

def _translate_generic(self, x: float, y: float, z: float) -> 'Matrix4f':
    return (self
        ._m30(fma(self.value[0, 0], x, fma(self.value[1, 0], y, fma(self.value[2, 0], z, self.value[3, 0]))))
        ._m31(fma(self.value[0, 1], x, fma(self.value[1, 1], y, fma(self.value[2, 1], z, self.value[3, 1]))))
        ._m32(fma(self.value[0, 2], x, fma(self.value[1, 2], y, fma(self.value[2, 2], z, self.value[3, 2]))))
        ._m33(fma(self.value[0, 3], x, fma(self.value[1, 3], y, fma(self.value[2, 3], z, self.value[3, 3]))))
        ._properties(self.properties & ~(PROPERTY_PERSPECTIVE | PROPERTY_IDENTITY))
    )

[neon iron]

Making some good progress, >100 lines and i have the player sprites. Gonna get the enemy ones next and start making some logic

[onyx basin]

I've been working on art so far, gonna hop on to some code soon

[neon iron]

So i take it we can download sprites we (legally) find online, so long as theyve been up for over 30 days, right?

Prob gonna make my own anyways

[onyx basin]

Yup we can as long as it is expressly put up to be used freely

[narrow furnace]

Does that include music??

[onyx basin]

I believe so

You have to show sources though so don't just drop them in and forget about them

[sweet mica]

if i download images from the search engine then also?

[woeful tree]

You have to comply with licensing/copyright for all material used

[sweet mica]

resources which are licensed MPL-2 are royalty free?

[neon iron]

Ye im lazy and dont wanan do that, so ima stick w making em in piskel lol

Idk if ima have enough time to do everything i want tho

Need to make 2d platform ais, which could be tricky. Also wanna recreate physics from scratch, but we’ll see how it goes

If i have time, ill make music for it as well

[onyx basin]

I am not even animating anything with spritesheets lol

Just a bland static sprite that rotates like South Park

I don't have the skill to get animations done in a week without burning out

[woeful tree]

MPL is Mozilla Public License? Yes, that's open source

[sweet mica]

ok nice

[woeful tree]

PyWeek's licensing is stricter than I said. You not only have to have the rights to use a thing, but every other entrant needs to also

That ends up being a restriction to open source

Something could be freely licensed but revocable, for example, but that means that the license could be revoked from another entrant for reasons that are not relevant to the competition

[sweet mica]

so I can't use that image? i mean if its open source wouldn't the other entrants will be also able to use it?

[leaden steppe]

am i allowed to use a json library or is it not allowed

[woeful tree]

You can use it if it is open source AND has not just been created

[neon iron]

You can use any python lib thats existed prior to a month ago and open source

[sweet mica]

yea i think it is more than a month old

[neon iron]

Anyways, do we have any copyright over the assets we make?

[woeful tree]

Wait, I think that's wrong. I think you can use it if it is open source and has been published to a searchable site that has not just been created

[woeful tree]

Yes, but you grant a license to PyWeek to distribute your entry

[neon iron]

Like can we take legal action if someone uses our stuff outside playing the game?

[woeful tree]

You retain all copyright

[woeful tree]

Probably

[neon iron]

I prob wouldnt go through the trouble unless it was some big company that did it (which the odds of that are 0 lol)

[woeful tree]

For big companies they will just steal your game ideas and no code or assets

[neon iron]

Yeah true

[woeful tree]

And you cannot sue them for that, unfortunately

Candy Crush Saga was a stolen idea

[neon iron]

At least others will have fun playing my idea in that case

I just wouldnt get anything from it

[sweet mica]

from whom?

also what if you get a patent

[woeful tree]

"Candy Crush Saga makers to sue game they copied" https://metro.co.uk/2014/02/13/candy-crush-saga-makers-to-sue-game-they-copied-4303096/amp/

[woeful tree]

Game mechanics are not usually patentable, don't know why. I don't think they should be, fwiw, and software in general should not be patentable, but patents have been granted on software in the US and Europe for 30 years or something

[neon iron]

What’s a good place i can get sounds, like gunshots and such, that follows the rules of the competition?

[lusty wasp]

opengameart.org

[neon iron]

🙏

[solid star]

FYI: Arcade 2.6.12 was released to squash some bugs for PyWeek

[vocal wasp]

kenney.nl

[vocal wasp]

itch.io also had some

iirc

[neon iron]

Weird, im accomplishing a lot more than i thought i would in this amount of time

[vocal wasp]

im accomplishing a lot less than i thought i would in this amount of time

😔

[neon iron]

Rip

Sadly tho, today was the most time ima have to work for this week. I can snag an hour or two here and there, but i have other things

Got all the character assets and a few of the main mechanics working tho

[vocal wasp]

am encountering some speed issues using arcade 😔

idk why but it lags

time to minimize my tilemap

oh i realized

i set 1000 tiles in tiled

😔

[neon iron]

Ima pretend ik what that means lol

[vocal wasp]

lmao

[onyx basin]

Steve (pictured) is parched, I am hoping to work on more crucial things tomorrow but having fun with the ui

[vocal wasp]

👏

[neon iron]

Ngl tho i dont rlly use many of pygame’s features except loading images, blitting to the screen, and using the event loop. Honestly i feel like i couldve just made that myself lol

[onyx basin]

Been working on assets mostly today

[neon iron]

He a thicc boi

[neon iron]

Ye same

[onyx basin]

He dummy thicc

[neon iron]

XD

[onyx basin]

I could have made him smaller but eh lol

[neon iron]

Shame that im trash at anything related to art/drawing lol

[onyx basin]

I know the feeling lol

[neon iron]

Question tho, you know if there’s any rules against blood or anything? I essentially have a cartoon zombie w red pixels, idk if that breaks any rules

All i found that relates to that is this

Others are just abt abuse and violence and such, not rlly graphics

Ill keep it for now, but if anyone asks i change it, i will ig

[onyx basin]

Well I'd say if it isn't gratuitous it should be fine, I know in places like Germany blood has to be green (not sure if that is the case anymore) but I'd say you shouldn't have to worry about it

This is a game jam, I doubt anyone could localise their game to be compliant in all countries lol

[neon iron]

Lol ye true

[onyx basin]

Writing a diary entry then going to bed, already well past when I wanted to go to bed lol

[velvet gazelle]

ok I started the game engine

it's not easy though

I'm still trying to make the GLB loader

[vocal wasp]

:)

[stoic heart]

now add evil twin

[vocal wasp]

doubdle

[vocal wasp]

:)

[onyx basin]

noice

[vocal wasp]

PyWeek will not tolerate harassment in any form, or language, imagery or behaviour that are:

• sexist, racist or exclusionary
• intimidating or threatening
• insulting or unpleasant
  im trying to make my evil twin a bit more evil as some bad personalities and stuff, but idk how "evil" can i make it, hope that mines are not insult enough

[vocal wasp]

🎉

[lusty wasp]

A mean smile and inward slanted eyebrows usually works in games

[vocal wasp]

:)

time to do this, thanks

[onyx basin]

hmmm im making some crapy 2d game, but i dont have inspo 😭, the only thing i know is a boss fight at yesyes the end

[vocal wasp]

make it an evil boss (twin) fight /j

[onyx basin]

lmao what a good idea

[pulsar spire]

Can I use a font with this license? (The font is free for commercial usage too, as said by its owner)

😔 License rules are too unclear sometimes

[narrow furnace]

You can

[pulsar spire]

Yayayay

And what about the fonts which are labeled "Free for personal use" only?

[narrow furnace]

It means you can't share it, its only free to use not free to upload it

[pulsar spire]

So I cannot use them?

[narrow furnace]

Here

You can also make a font, i don't think its that hard

[pulsar spire]

Ah so I can use them in pyweek but cannot earn money using them, right?

[narrow furnace]

Yep

[pulsar spire]

Cool thanks!

[narrow furnace]

Np

[vocal wasp]

the api I'm using now is under https://choosealicense.com/licenses/wtfpl/#
hope that's ok to use in here

(https://random-word-api.herokuapp.com/home) :P

[hollow ivy]

unique idea

btw is that win 11?

[vocal wasp]

nop

[woeful tree]

If the font is not freely redistributable then you may not be able to include it in your entry, regardless of whether it you have a right to use the font. Instead of including the font file you will need to just include graphics that are made with the font

[hollow ivy]

then how did you stack them

like tabs

[vocal wasp]

windows terminal supermacy

[hollow ivy]

🗿

[pulsar spire]

The font is available freely on the website and is free for personal use

[woeful tree]

Neither of those things mean you actually have the right to redistribute it, you need to check the terms

[pulsar spire]

What about this license?

Lemme provide the link

https://www.1001fonts.com/licenses/ffc.html

On the website, the author says that we can use the font freely even for commercial purposes

[onyx basin]

https://fontlibrary.org/ also good site for free fonts

free as in OFL

[pulsar spire]

Thanks!

[woeful tree]

The relevant clauses seem to be

While the given typeface may freely be copied and passed along to other individuals for private use as its original downloadable zip-file,
and
the given typeface may be embedded into an application such as a web- or mobile app, independant of the number of the application users, as long as the application does not distribute the given typeface, such as offering it as a download.

Seems like a tricky one to navigate. I think you probably can include the font in your entry, but you may not be able to include the font file in your GitHub repo, for example (only the zip).

But, I doubt this strictly complies with rule 6 (https://pyweek.readthedocs.io/en/latest/rules.html#existing-artwork-music-and-sound-effects-may-be-used) because it isn't OSI, CC or PD

[vocal wasp]

eh it seems like i have to change my source of asset

idk if mine is PD, it basically gives me whatever thing i want to do

i can't use others because those contains swear words and i dont want them to even exist in my game

well i guess time to sort them out because why not

found one

:)

[pulsar spire]

Oh well that's sad :(
It won't work even if I specify in the readme that I don't copyright anything and that they are the property of their original owners?

[lusty wasp]

Um, no, saying you don't have rights over something doesn't give you rights over it

[pulsar spire]

😔

@woeful tree what if I supply the zip file in the game and use the zipfile module to extract the font? Is that allowed???

[velvet gazelle]

what if I write the game engine in C++ and add Python scripting
will it still qualify for PyWeek

[real eagle]

The rules say that all "game logic" must be in Python

[velvet gazelle]

so rendering doesn't count?

[real eagle]

This is a Python programming challenge. However, you may include code written in supporting languages (eg. C/C++ or Rust libraries, Javascript/HTML in web pages, and so on), if that code does not implement “game logic”.
https://pyweek.readthedocs.io/en/latest/rules.html

[velvet gazelle]

like i want to make the game engine in C++ because Python is going to have a bad performance

[real eagle]

I am not sure

[velvet gazelle]

it is agnostic about theme, backstory, character types, game objects, behaviours, and so on

ok so make an engine in any language but add Python scripting

cool

[onyx basin]

Python should perform fine for a game jam but it’s your decision

C++ can be a minefield for game engines lol

• cries in UB *

[solid star]

That would depend on what you are making and how you code it.

[velvet gazelle]

the engine will have model loading, rendering and particles and maybe raycast

[onyx basin]

Seems a lot to write in a week, to me at least lol

[velvet gazelle]

actually I think I will make it in Rust

[solid star]

just use Ursina or Panda3D

[velvet gazelle]

just because I want to try Rapier physics engine

[velvet gazelle]

no that's not fit for my usecase

[solid star]

Ok, you have 6 more days to sort that out 🙂

[velvet gazelle]

🙂

Any ideas for a fictional company in my game lore?

I want to call it Foobarbaz but that is too long

what about FUBAR

[solid star]

FB!

[velvet gazelle]

ah yes there is no company called FB anymore

perfect

FB Corporation destroy the world

[sweet mica]

yes theres really no company called FB i think

[velvet gazelle]

ok

look

here's what I have

ok that's all I have

pls don't steal my game art

I work very hard

totally didn't just extrude, scale, delete two faces, and add solidify modifier

[pulsar spire]

Lmao

[onyx basin]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-car-steal-hubcap-run-gif-14032396

I jest lol

I decided to try Python Arcade Library for the jam and damn I much prefer it over Pygame

Not sure if this will show up but I am happy so far with this, got Tiled working and using the cameras is real handy

How does that GUI look to people? There will be a hunger meter eventually and some more additions but this is just an attempt at starting the UI

Also yes he does walk like characters in South Park, I'm no animator, so sue me lol

[sweet mica]

woah I didn't even you could make a walking animation like that, I actually scratched an idea out of my head because i wasn't able to make proper walking animations

[pulsar spire]

Same, the animation is DAMN COOL

[proven cradle]

I like the simplicity of that walking animation

[valid prairie]

Same

[pulsar spire]

Indeed

[plucky coyote]

when does the next gamejam start and so can i use the pygame library(i am new)

[onyx basin]

yesterday

there's still time to join

Thanks 😄 I don't have the patience for animating the walking so it's a simple rotation between 2 values, swapping the direction of the rotation when you reach the bounds#

[ocean haven]

In a few days I'm going to look back and regret how much time I'm spending on art today. But I'm having fun so future me will just have to suffer

[onyx basin]

I am suffering doing the art lol

[smoky dune]

where and what the heck my team is doing... so lucky to be a part of such a team 😂

@stable iris hello? what's the status? are we making anything at all or just lurk till the last day?

[pulsar spire]

Lmao

[stable iris]

@smoky dune check ur dms

[onyx basin]

Ok finally making some good progress, I can't wait to get much deeper in code lol

[neon iron]

Ye ngl i prefer making the actual logic and things over art/level design/sound effects/music, but sadly thats the majority of my game lol

But ima make a worlds file and have it be json, and basically just have a bunch of blocks in a specified spot. Then, if people want and get how it works, they can make their own levels

[solid star]

Crappy art often turns out way better than you think. That's my experience at least 🙂

[onyx basin]

I'm hopefully going to make the gameplay out do my art lol

[velvet gazelle]

I think I'll make the engine using CMake

so it can be portable

and stuff

I will use OpenGL

because I hate M*cs

jk but I'm not gonna learn Metal or whatever

[wooden spruce]

Movement isn't the most important part of my game but I am doing all this for the first time. Here is my character roaming around with a 2 frame animation for walking.

[wooden spruce]

now I am wondering if I should do animation like this and save my artist friend some trouble

[onyx basin]

If it works it works, feel free to do it that way

[wooden spruce]

Yeah as I said, I am doing all this for the first time and everything is shiny and exciting to me. I must stick to the plan if I am ever to release anything 😄

[solid star]

Can definitely get away with 1-3 frame animations. It does give the game a somewhat different feel, but it's acceptable

We accept things like that for attack animations in games all the time. The character snaps into position instantly.

[neon iron]

Yeah i could make a turning animation but like nah lol

Idk actually, i might

Whats gonna be hard is getting a firing animation to work while the player is in the walking animation, because the gun is a part of the player sprite

[wooden spruce]

Was wondering if anyone else is making a social simulation

[onyx basin]

Ah damn was stuck for a while on a physics issue that the character would jitter as you move against a wall, turns out I forgot I was using set_position instead of giving the physics engine a delta_x and delta_y

[neon iron]

Gonna try tackling animations, could be a bit tricky

Already less than 5 days 😬

[neon iron]

Think i came up w a way that could work. Hard part is making it lol

[vocal wasp]

flip the sprite horizontally

[neon iron]

Ye i have that, but wanna make steps and such

[onyx basin]

Suppose I'll post my day's progress in this video here, feeling good about this. Pretty much added, collision, expanded the tileset and added a hunger meter. A lot of the day was debugging

[cinder trellis]

damn we have nothing yet though xd

[onyx basin]

Go at your own pace, it isn't a race, as long as ye submit something that's what matters

[cinder trellis]

ye we are still thinking of what type of game we should do

[onyx basin]

Ya, that can be tough, try just writing down ideas, then pick one at a time and try flesh the idea out, if it feels right then go with that one

[vocal wasp]

zamn

[onyx basin]

And by "flesh the idea out", I mean write down what you would do with the idea

[onyx basin]

I'm really happy with how this is going, usually I would have given up by now lol

[neon iron]

Looks pretty sweet so far. Far better than i could do it for sure

[neon iron]

Was actually rlly easy lol. Just threw in a transition sprite, and it actually looks half decent if i do say so myself

The best animation ive ever made

Not bc its the only one ive ever made or anything…

[onyx basin]

Nice, glad it wasn't too bad

[neon iron]

Still not sure if ima have enough time to do everything i want. Ima try to work the entire day saturday, so thats when i should be able to get music/sounds going

Biggest hurtle rn is getting a way to create levels

[onyx basin]

Don't forget too save time to make an executable for the game (like using PyInstaller)

[neon iron]

How long would it take to do that?

[vocal wasp]

probably a few hours

¯_(ツ)_/¯