unix

[frozen lodge]

hi guys

anyone here does some ricing ?

in i3

[harsh bison]

yeah anyone??

though i will leave at this moment because i gotta do a video presentation for my research gtg

[frozen lodge]

ye sure

gg

[sacred tulip]

hey guys

[shut tusk]

hey

does anyone uses bspwm here?

[tender crystal]

I do yeah, big fan

[lime whale]

bspwm is very underrated!

[harsh bison]

hello

i have a problem

when i boot up

it shows that Error: resume hibernate device “y” not found

[leaden briar]

Hey guys I tried using pyautogui in ubuntu 20.04 but this came up tried googling didnt work

[austere jolt]

has anyone used starship here?

for some reason my memory usage isnt showing up

it was showing till yesterday

this isnt working for some reason

nvm ik why

[fresh saddle]

You are below 50%, aren’t you?

[trim widget]

I have a script which toggles a setting depending if it's allready set or not. I have to save the current state, what's the best way to do that?

Currently I save a character to a file

[weary fossil]

You can use some flags

[opaque ginkgo]

"save the current state"

[trim widget]

You can use some flags
@weary fossil Can you elaborate?

"save the current state"
@opaque ginkgo I just need a bit I can flip to show which mode it is in

[opaque ginkgo]

honestly the file approach is the best method i can think of

[trim widget]

What is a good folder to save it? @opaque ginkgo

[sacred tulip]

hey guys

I have a script that runs scrapy through CrawlerRunner

I recently added a cronjob to schedule the script, but the script didn't execute,
I checked the logs grep CRON /var/log/syslog and cron did execute it but idk what happened. I even made a bash script to activate the environment and run the script etc but no luck. If I run the bash script standalone then it works fine. What could be the problem?

[shut tusk]

bspwm is very underrated!
@lime whale
I do yeah, big fan
@tender crystal So do you use polybar with it ?

[main olive]

I recently added a cronjob to schedule the script, but the script didn't execute,
I checked the logs grep CRON /var/log/syslog and cron did execute it but idk what happened. I even made a bash script to activate the environment and run the script etc but no luck. If I run the bash script standalone then it works fine. What could be the problem?
@sacred tulip use systemd instead

you can see the entire log for the service

and you'll be able to just directly see the fault it spits out

[tender crystal]

So do you use polybar with it ?
@shut tusk

I used to, but not anymore. Don't use anything as a bar atm. Might go back to using one at some point though

[lapis radish]

why the fuck my nvidia driver not working

I use arch btw. I hope that'll help to solve the problem

[shut tusk]

why the fuck my nvidia driver not working
@lapis radish I have heard drivers crashing or causing screen tears but never heard them not working . What GPU do you have?

[ashen rover]

I think I may need to get a unix environment to get my program to work properly. What's the best way to get one? (free)

[sharp nest]

If you're on Windows, you can get WSL for free, there's also git bash

WSL: Windows subsystem for Linux

you can just open the Microsoft app store, look for "Ubuntu" and install it.

[opaque ginkgo]

you need to enable the wsl feature first

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/wsl/install-win10

[humble onyx]

brw-rw---- 1 root disk   8, 16 Kas  7 12:54 /dev/sdb```
Hi, I want to know what the difference is between these two device files
I have stm32f4 discovery board plugged in
```$lsusb
Bus 001 Device 008: ID 0483:374b STMicroelectronics ST-LINK/V2.1 (Nucleo-F103RB)```

one appears as a character device and the other as a block device. I expected a symbolic link for the other

[olive jungle]

need unix / ssh help with visual studio code in #help-cookie

[cursive bridge]

hey so basically currently im getting this error with python 3.9

ERROR: Could not build wheels for multidict, yarl which use PEP 517 and cannot be installed directly```

so im tryna install python 3.8, which i did in fedora

how do i set it as my default interpreter?

[frozen lodge]

hi guys

so when u mount another file system in ur current file system does it fucks up anything ?

[real geyser]

It is supposed to make the root of the file system that you are mounting visible at the place you mounted it at.

Is there something more specific that you are worried about?

@frozen lodge

[warped wing]

why does pythonanywhere bash not have sudo insatlled?

i cannot install it

when i type su - nothing happens

[real geyser]

Didn't use python anywhere but maybe they don't want ppl to get root access

[warped wing]

maybe

but thats inconvenient

[frozen lodge]

i was worried it would mount my other system

i think i misunderstood how mount works lol

thnx tho

i got what i wanted 😄

[real geyser]

lol

thats great

@warped wing what are you trying to do?

i.e. why do u need sudo?

[warped wing]

i wanna do ssh

[frozen lodge]

wait what linux system u using

?

[real geyser]

me?

[frozen lodge]

no haha czech

[frozen lodge]

hmm it sud have sudo installed

[real geyser]

can you do

ps -a

?

[frozen lodge]

ur prob in root then ?

[real geyser]

no

[frozen lodge]

ohh

[real geyser]

oh lol they didn't mount ur proc 😄

[frozen lodge]

lol

[real geyser]

that is interesting

I was wondering if this is a vm or a container

[frozen lodge]

is proc the name of the file system that hes mouting to proc dir??

[real geyser]

no so in linux all the info

about processes

are represented in a virtual file system

( i.e. a file system that is not real )

called proc

so ps

is trying to read it

to list the processes

[frozen lodge]

ohh i see

[real geyser]

but it is not mounted

[frozen lodge]

but there isnt any virtual fs for proc mounted

[real geyser]

yes

[frozen lodge]

gotcha !! that makes sense

thnx m8

[real geyser]

usually this is done when the system/container starts

np 🙂

[frozen lodge]

dont u need to set that up beforehand

like tell it to mount in the docker or compose image file ?

if hes using that ?

[real geyser]

usually container systems mount the thing for you when

they create the container

I am guessing that there is a way to tell them not to do it

but totally up to the container creaters on whether they want to give u this ability or not

but it is definitely not needed

[frozen lodge]

ohh i need to learn about containerize system lol

[real geyser]

yes they are interesting

I have built one

I can recommend a tutorial

if u r interested

they are actually not that

hard to build

[frozen lodge]

i did make heaps for writing docker image file

i meant like how the whole system works

like the in depth

[real geyser]

well a good way to learn how they work in depth

is

to build one urself

[frozen lodge]

yes sir

[real geyser]

i.e. a container system like docker

[frozen lodge]

exactly

[real geyser]

( what I did )

[frozen lodge]

ohhh i misunderstood ya

lol its 4am so im kinda sloppy atm

lol

[real geyser]

haha its all good

[frozen lodge]

thats really awesome tho

hopefully i can make one something like that

haha

hes gone tho lol

[real geyser]

yes

it is really useful if u

want to learn how everything fits together

[frozen lodge]

ye def im reading some unix and linx programming books atm. hope it turns out well...lets be optimisitic about it lol. Anyways imma get back to me ricing so cheers m8 have a nice one

[real geyser]

good luck

I recommend this tutorial if u r

interested

https://medium.com/@teddyking/linux-namespaces-850489d3ccf

[frozen lodge]

oh sweet thnx heaps for the link 😄

[snow thorn]

Guys, I'm having issues with systemd, can you help ?

Basically, I'd like the bot to nicely start on boot.
The issue is that Lavalink takes so much time to start that the bot tries to connect before it is ready.
What I'd like is to have the bot start only after Lavalink is ready. How can I do that ?

[main olive]

@snow thorn i mean these are two seperate services right? just set the bot to require the lavalink service

Look at After/Before/Requires etc

[snow thorn]

@main olive The issue is that After / Requires make it so that the bot starts after the process has started. But Lavalink isn't ready right upon startup. On my last boot, it took around 40 seconds to initialize (plus around 60 seconds of Java initialisation). I already put an After, but the bot tries to connect before Lavalink is ready, thus creating issues

[main olive]

hmmmm

i mean on a simple way you could just delay the start of the bot with a timer but thats hacky even if it would work

[snow thorn]

Yeah, I'd like for once to do things properly

[main olive]

is there some command or something you can do to check that lavalink is ready?

[snow thorn]

Actually, I could use a hacky way to do that, by greping the log messages, yeah

[main olive]

stack overflow doesnt even have a good solution 😐

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/43001223/how-to-ensure-that-there-is-a-delay-before-a-service-is-started-in-systemd

[snow thorn]

Something like journalctl -b --unit lavalink | grep "Started Launcher in"

If there is such a log message, it means that Lavalink is ready

[main olive]

https://serverfault.com/questions/886641/systemctl-start-trafficserver-wait-for-start/914631#914631

i guess this is the official best way but it seems so intense to do

create sockets and stuff

[snow thorn]

The issue is that to implement that I'd have (if I understand well) to recompile a custom version of Lavalink so that it uses the socket, but I don't know Java, so I basically would have to learn Java just for that

Seems a bit intense yeah

But is there a way to tell it like to wait until the log message is logged ?

@main olive Would something like that work ?

while ![/bin/journalctl -b --unit lavalink | /bin/grep -q "Started Launcher in"]
do
  /bin/sleep 2
done
/usr/bin/python3 -m "Chaotic Bot.py"

Saving that in a .sh, and running it in StartExec ?

[main olive]

maybe, im bad at greps and journals

if we assume your while condition is correct then yea

i do a decent amount of service > runs startup sh > runs actual program

[snow thorn]

It theorically should be true, because grep with -q just returns exit code, which is 0 for success and non-zero for failure, and if I understand well exit code 0 is interpreted as true, non-zero as false

And, to run it, I'd just put ExecStart=/home/waylander/bot/startup.sh ?

[main olive]

ya

[snow thorn]

Ah shit, I tried to simulate it in an if, doesn't go well

grep thinks that the ] is a directory I'm passing it

[main olive]

use [[ ]]

or do the grep on another line and store it to a var

[snow thorn]

Conditional -b operator found... I think Imma try the var

Well, I'm still having issues with grep

Wait, I think I fixed that with a pipe

AAaaaaaaaaah

-bash: ![: event not found

I think that I'll soon want to die

I tried asking on an Ubuntu Server

[olive jungle]

Getting the following error when launching kex or kex --win -s in WSL

Could not connect: Connection refused```

[summer trail]

-bash: ![: event not found
@snow thorn you need a space between the ! and the [

! followed by some text is a history expansion, ! on its own inverts the return of the command that follows it.

[cold mortar]

Question. What are a few IDE options to run and debug python scripts from a Windows laptop on a remote Linux server?

[opaque ginkgo]

By remote do you mean ssh?

[cold mortar]

i'm looking for options and yes ssh would be the most obvious way to execute them remotely

[crude oriole]

iirc vsc offers ssh execution

https://www.jetbrains.com/help/pycharm/configuring-remote-interpreters-via-ssh.html

[opaque ginkgo]

vscode has a remote ssh extension i think

[main olive]

whats unix

[fresh saddle]

It is a family of operating system, including the Linux project

[main olive]

oh okay

[snow thorn]

How can I make a systemd service that'll only start once another program is listening on a given port ?

[main olive]

well, start a script

that checks for that

and starts your actual service

[empty geyser]

>if i may interject
>what you refer to as "Linux project"
>should be properly refered to as GNU+Linux

[brittle portal]

[snow thorn]

Would this be a good way to wait until a program is listening on port 2333 to start a program ?
This file would be started by systemd

#!/bin/sh
while ! /bin/ss -H -t -l -n sport = :2333 | /bin/grep -q "^LISTEN.*:2333";
do /bin/sleep 1;
done
/usr/bin/python3 -m "Chaotic Bot.py"

[solemn snow]

Hey could someone help me downloading Xcode cause I cant seem to find it

[past sluice]

any1 here

any1 know how to share link/url in jisti-meet

[main olive]

Does it work @snow thorn ?

I really dont like spaces in filenames though

that's a windows thing 😛

[snow thorn]

Honestly, I haven't tried yet because I reboot my server like every two months

I realised there was an issue on last reboot, so I'm trying to make it so that it won't happen again

[main olive]

well, just check for another port

and run something on that

and -m and a filename

doesnt seem right

or am i missing something?

[snow thorn]

Why ? That's how I'm currently running the file, and it works very well

My question is "is that a good solution, and if not, what would be a better solution" ?
Because it should work fine, at least theorically

[main olive]

Dont know how often I heard that

and it turned out to be wrong

All I can say is, that I dont have a better solution

[snow thorn]

I mean, the snippet of code does run well

[main olive]

it seems to be ok, but i'd definitely test it

[snow thorn]

Well, I tested it, didn't enter the loop obviously

[main olive]

so start that with another unused port

than start some application on that port

and see if it executes something after

an echo is enough

[snow thorn]

Guess imma try that

But later, I gotta go rn. Thanks.
I guess the real test won't come for 2 months, but it's a great idea to test with an unused port. Imma try that

[humble onyx]

https://youtu.be/Ldbe1rIgbxg?t=602 10:02-10:17
I have a microcontroller and I am doing something with USART to communicate. The guy on the video uses arduino IDE to see the communication, I however don't have the arduino software so I thought a simple tail -f /dev/ttyUSB0 would work, but it didn't work. I think it showed up as ttyACM0 instead, for some reason. It outputs nothing. Is it an expected result I don't know. I am not wondering why it doesn't output anything. What I am asking is if my approach is correct.

1- This guy on the video uses almost the same microcontroller as I am using (there is definitely some difference) why does it appear as ttyACM0?
2- Is my approach correct? tail -f /dev/ttyACM0 if not pls explain

It is more of a unix question than a microcontroller, so I decided to post it here

[stoic obsidian]

Silly Question: Is there an IDE for the MINIX 3 operating system including the ?

[thorn portal]

HI!

how can I pipe output of one command to another export command

echo 'bar' | xargs -I export FOO='{}'

something like this?

[main olive]

export FOO=$(echo 'bar')

[opaque ginkgo]

export FOO="$(echo 'bar')"

shell quoting is important 🙂

[harsh bison]

hello everyone

i have a problem with termite

cursor_shape variable does not make the cursor shape change in the terminal

i opened and reloaded termite terminals but no luck

😦

[thorny vine]

How do I update python on ubuntu? It comes with 3.8.5, and I want to upgrade to 3.9. I'm not sure how to do this because apt uses python, and 3.9 comes in a separate package.

[barren temple]

i would install in home directory under .local and add it to path.

https://nullprogram.com/blog/2017/06/19/ if you wanna do that

oh ubuntu has a 3.9 packaged? Then why not just update? o.0 Idk.

[thorny vine]

If I install it in the package, python and pip still are old

In the shell

[barren temple]

wdym

[thorny vine]

The commands still link to the 3.8.5 binaries

[barren temple]

idk. update-alternatives or something? 😄

[thorny vine]

Ok, thanks I'll look into that

[main olive]

@thorny vine don't play around with that ubuntu standard installation. It might break your terminal

A way better way to do that is to use virtual environments

these are also used to handle dependencies over different projects

[thorn portal]

Thank you guys @main olive @opaque ginkgo

[solemn snow]

Hey could someone help me with Xcode cause I can't downlaod it

[robust elk]

Hi ! I want to start with unix scripting.....tons of resources.....can anyone recommend their personal favorite?

[strange sinew]

Hello 👋. I don't know if this is the right channel, but I'm getting some errors when importing tkinter:

They're just warnings so the program runs perfectly, but I think I should not be getting those errors. The terminal says that there are "100 problems". Why I'm getting this errors? I'm using VScode

[opaque ginkgo]

beacuse you're using a wildcard import

which polluts the global namespace with a lot of random modules/functions

causing pylint to complain that you're not using most of them

just do import tkinter as tk if you want a shorthand

@strange sinew

[strange sinew]

No more errors. Thank you @opaque ginkgo

[fair trout]

hey hope your fine guys i have probelem with running anaconda on my manjaro, any one up for help?

[opaque ginkgo]

whats the error

[main olive]

discord.errors.HTTPException: 400 Bad Request (error code: 40032): Target user is not connected to voice.

why am i getting this error

[main olive]

Because the target user is not connected to voice I guess

[glacial talon]

what better debian or ubuntu?

[opaque ginkgo]

depends

ubuntu is supposedly better for beginners

but debian is the upstream

and gives you more flexibility

[earnest hawk]

I use debian, find it a smoother experience

[barren temple]

Does debian have older packages than ubuntu? Im using fedora.

[earnest hawk]

Yeah it does

[barren temple]

What does flexibility mean here?

I use fedora bcs easy installs, recent software and it works. If new version every 6 months isnt a bother consider it too mb. Im a newish user too. (end of blatant advertisement) rpm fusion is a must though, and support works well on freenode irc channel.

[opaque ginkgo]

debian stable is really stable but packages are kinda old(I think 2 yr release?)

Debian testing gets you latest packages after 14 days(iirc) in unstable

ubuntu does 6 mo release

personally I've been running debian testing through wsl for a bout a year and I've only hit 2 bugs

One was a wsl issue and the other was a warning

[formal schooner]

Debian stable right now is pretty fresh

Released a few months ago and has plenty of backports

But I personally use testing on my home machine as well

I use stable on servers

[amber void]

i use arch btw

jk

[barren temple]

and i've installed and used (for a bit) gentoo, but that was 10 years ago or so, so it doesn't count. Been windows user for a long time, and I'm a new linux-user now 😄

[chrome cosmos]

ever used rasspberry pi?

[haughty ether]

How does everyone manage python versions and environment stuff?

@chrome cosmos Yup. Why do you ask? I have 2 running right now on my network.

[opaque ginkgo]

just install everything into global

[haughty ether]

It's been a while since I used Python as my daily language and now there are things like pyenv plus docker.

[blissful sage]

err maybe someone can help in here

I'm trying to install eventlet and i got a compiler error

https://paste.pythondiscord.com/icehejuwiz.sql

it's really large

i searched around and it seems to be a system issue, not a library issue

I've experienced them before as well, it had to do with xcode not working properly after upgrading my os

I'm on a mac btw

however this time around im not sure what the solve is, it's having an issue with greenlet

but I've already updated the xcode command line tool, because as I mentioned I had this issue before with another library

[opaque ginkgo]

does eventlet support macos?

[blissful sage]

not sure

eventlet is not platform specific but

its "hubs" can be

the default hub is only for linux

but yeah eventlet is compatible

[blissful sage]

idk might be a brew issue

[blissful sage]

yeah it's a build script issue

it's not picking up headers

something with cpython

[blissful sage]

does eventlet support macos?
@opaque ginkgo i think its a build script issue

the error is really common, among other packages

from what ive googled it's not recognizing a developer header. But idk what that stuff is

and it looks like a brew/mac/cpython issue

like it's not compiling correctly

[eternal jacinth]

im trying to edit my bash_profile, is that in my home directory?

[amber garnet]

Yes, under ~/.bash_profile path (https://askubuntu.com/a/29241/471812)

[opaque ginkgo]

(~ means home dir)

[fading moat]

if your trying to find it using a graphical file manager, they hide filenames that start with .

by default

[tender plinth]

Hello , Im using nsjail to host one of my services , but the thing is , I want nsjail to make the service run with the libc of another version , so for that I created lib , lib64 folders , and inside the lib/x86_64-linux-gnu , I had the libc I wished to use stored as libc.so.6 , and the dynamic loader was put under the folder lib64 with the name ld-linux-x86-64.so.2. Then, in the nsjail script , I had mounted the lib folders which I had created , but when I host the service , I see that its still using the libc of the server on which it's running

is there something Im missing ?

I dont think we need to preload the libc in nsjail as it creates a pseudo file system if Im not wrong
can someone give me an insight into this?

[solemn snow]

Hey how would i set env variables in mac?
zsh btw

[barren temple]

http://zsh.sourceforge.net/Intro/intro_3.html It says .zshenv, but i'd still put it in my .zshrc, because thats where i put everything -.-'

[main olive]

<html>
<head>
<title>Hello!</title>
</head>
<body>
<h1>Hello World!</h1>
</body>
</html>

how do i build a webserver which shows this

import sys
import socket
import os

def main():
try:
x=open(sys.argv[1],"r")
my_lines=x.readlines()
if len(my_lines)!=4:
print('Missing Field From Configuration File')
x.close()
except IndexError:
exit('Missing Configuration Argument')
except FileNotFoundError:
exit('Unable To Load Configuration File')
for line in my_lines:
line=line.strip()
key=line.split("=")[0]
value=line.split("=")[1]
if key=="staticfiles":
Staticfile=value
elif key=="cgibin":
cgibin=value
elif key=="port":
port=int(value)
else:
configure=value
my_socket=socket.socket(socket.AF_INET,socket.SOCK_STREAM)
my_socket.bind(("localhost",9000))
my_socket.listen(10)
while(1):
conn,addr=my_socket.accept()
print(conn)
try:
print("vasu")
data=conn.recv(1024).decode()
if not data:
break
my_list=data.split('\n')
if (len(my_list) > 0):
print(my_list[0])
send_data="HTTP/1.1 200 OK\r\n"
send_data+="Content-Type: text/html; charset-utf-8\r\n"
send_data+="\r\n"
send_data+="<html><body>Hello World<body><html>\r\n\r\n"
conn.sendall(data.encode())
conn.shutdown(SHUT_WR)
conn.close()
except Exception:
pass
my_socket.close()

if name == 'main':
main()

this is what I have come up with and it goes in an infinte loop

[opaque ginkgo]

@main olive wrong channel

[thorny sage]

how do you provide a unix executable file in macos sudo permissions by default?

basically its like giving git sudo permissions all the time (even though it doesn't need it but thats just an example lol)

[mortal cove]

hello every one

does any ene know how to look for changes and also put new info on the dbus netwok

does any one know how to use dbus please pm me

[opaque ginkgo]

@thorny sage make it suid?

or add it to /etc/sudoers as nopasswd using visudo

though keep in mind that both of these are quite dangerous if used incorrectly

https://gtfobins.github.io/

[main olive]

i need help installing bs4

and i think im doing it all wrong

can i show some pictures of my attempts in this chat?

[timber copper]

if you got pip it should be easy

[opaque ginkgo]

isn't it just pip install beautifulsoup4

@main olive

[thorny sage]

@opaque ginkgo thank you so much i'll look into it

[opaque ginkgo]

@main olive please don't post rmrfs even as a joke

[main olive]

ok

[opaque ginkgo]

although idt that will work anyways

since its only rmrfing a directory named "*"

[main olive]

no

• means all

[opaque ginkgo]

bruh

it was rim raf \*

[main olive]

and \ means root dict

[opaque ginkgo]

xd

[main olive]

so delete everything in the root dict

[opaque ginkgo]

/ is root

and \ escapes metachars xd

[main olive]

oh right i forgot

lol

[main olive]

ive done that but it says that its already installed inside a directory that starts with a dot (./Users/me/Library/Python/3.8/lib/packages/....)

idk why but any pip install commands i try in pycharm gives me a typo error. and ik im writing the right commands

[opaque ginkgo]

hol up

typo?

are

are you running pip install

in a .py file

@main olive

also check that pycharm is set to the right interpreter

not the system one

[signal olive]

Has anyone managed to get python3 installed and working on an M1 machine yet? I suspect it'd require a recompile...

[hardy grail]

did they stop preloading Python?

[main olive]

no im running it in the console in pycharm

and how do i check if its the right interpretor

[mild laurel]

lol

[worn peak]

How can i connect my linux (ubuntu) machine through ssh over the Internet without port forwarding.

Is there an easy hack around this.

[opaque ginkgo]

ngrok?

[worn peak]

@opaque ginkgo is it available for Linux

[opaque ginkgo]

yes

[worn peak]

Also is there's a way to replace default random ngrok url with custom domain name

[opaque ginkgo]

not unless you pay

[worn peak]

Ok

[craggy hatch]

hi,

why can't i use
rm $X | ls

[summer trail]

what would you expect that to do?

[thorny sage]

@opaque ginkgo i see that chmod is used for that right however, i'm not sure what explicit permissions i need to set for it to run as admin (sudo permissions) all the time 0-o

[solemn snow]

what is the delete command in mac?

[prime magnet]

same, rm

[coarse bane]

If I wanna use both Windows and Linux, should I use WSL2 or a KVM Switch Software such as Symless Synergy.

A VM doesn't have the capacity and I heard that it becomes quiet troublesome with dual-boot.

[opaque ginkgo]

@thorny sage chmod only lets others run it

but not as root

to let them run as root

you either need to turn on suid(chmod +s iirc)

or add to /etc/sudoers with nopasswd

[thorny sage]

aah alright thank you

[bleak breach]

bro how u even install python on mac

ok im confused

i downloaded python 3.6.10 cause apparently u can install discord.py like that cause idk how to install discord.py but i cant install python in the 1st place

[oak kestrel]

error installing ubuntu 20.04 in msi p65 creator 8rd with bug #1871268

help me

[inland gulch]

@AgentSully use pyenv if you need various python versions it's an easy env mgmt tool for python, brew install pyenv then pyenv install <python_version> pyenv works on most platforms and makes management a breeze. Alternatively you can bareback it with brew install python@3.6 but id recommend pyenv.

[opaque ginkgo]

he left

[inland gulch]

Patience is a virtue 🙂

[upbeat tide]

haha 😂

[humble onyx]

hey guys, I'm a noob pentester. Each time I got a reverse shell I have to run python -c 'import pty; pty.spawn("/bin/bash");' in order to get a fully interactive shell (I can't run sudo or anything like that with the initial reverse shell because it errors "must be run from a terminal"). Why am I not getting a fully interactive bash shell in the first place?

[opaque ginkgo]

spawning bash doesn't mean spawning a tty by default

since the shell is unrelated to what the terminal does

more info: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/4126/what-is-the-exact-difference-between-a-terminal-a-shell-a-tty-and-a-con

[humble onyx]

thank you

[bold ice]

whats a great software to program on thats free for python mac and i anybody can dm me to set it up if its hard that would be much apperciated

[deft raft]

Visual studio code or pycharm, if you're starting out maybe try MU

[mint fossil]

hi

[tender plinth]

Hello , Im facing the issue of merge conflicts in gitlab , is there some way to resolve it from terminal or do I have to re-fork the original repo again? , whenever I try to pull changes from the original repo , it shows everything is up to date , but then , when I send a pull request , the repo admin says that my merge has conflicts

[prime magnet]

you don't need to re-fork or re-clone the repo but you need to understand - https://www.atlassian.com/git/tutorials/using-branches/merge-conflicts

[boreal token]

why in #unix?

[main olive]

He tried on terminal

🙂

[lavish badger]

If crontab syntax is: * * * * * <command>, how does the following cron job work?
* * * * * cd /home/ubuntu/flasky && venv/bin/flask scheduled
It seems to be saying, navigate to the flasky directory and if that works, run flask script from venv/bin.
But it also gives another command scheduled, how can <command> take two arguments that aren't separated by a ;?

Another example of multiple arguments to <command> parameter:
17 * * * * root cd / && run-parts --report /etc/cron.hourly

[amber garnet]

You can create script that executes several lines at one call

[lavish badger]

Thanks @amber garnet . I don't understand though.

[amber garnet]

Make some script, for example /usr/local/bin/my-cronjob.sh with content

#!/usr/bin/env sh
cd /home/ubuntu/flasky
venv/bin/flask sheduled

Then in crontab run it by * * * * * /usr/local/bin/my-cronjob.sh
Remember to add executable premission using chmod +x

[lavish badger]

Oh I see. Thanks. Problem solved.

[noble basin]

Hey I have a question. I have a py script that's running as root. I want it to launch a different py script as a specific user (still with elevated privileged) from within this program. Any suggestions how to go about this?

[amber garnet]

How about https://stackoverflow.com/questions/1770209/run-child-processes-as-different-user-from-a-long-running-python-process/6037494#6037494 ?

[noble basin]

Ty I'll try that

[main olive]

is there a way so if i do Ctrl C it doesn’t break out of the file

[rotund moss]

hello

[main olive]

hi

[inland gulch]

is the file python or shell?

@main olive
heres how to capture ctrl+c in bash: https://stackpointer.io/script/how-to-catch-ctrl-c-in-shell-script/248/
in a python script, use the signal module, https://docs.python.org/3/library/signal.html, signal.signal(signal.SIGINT, signal_handler)

[opaque ginkgo]

@main olive better solution is to catch KeyboardInterrupt

[main olive]

ahhhhhhhhhhh

yes ys

thanks guy

[opaque ginkgo]

why is this apt's default behavior

root@0a8aa31ad934:/# apt install python3.6
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Note, selecting 'python3.6-kdtree-dbg' for regex 'python3.6'
Note, selecting 'python3.6-cups' for regex 'python3.6'
Note, selecting 'python3.6-ldap' for regex 'python3.6'
Note, selecting 'python3.6-cairo' for regex 'python3.6'
Note, selecting 'python3.6-sfml' for regex 'python3.6'
Note, selecting 'python3.6-pymad-dbg' for regex 'python3.6'
Note, selecting 'python3.6-nss' for regex 'python3.6'
Note, selecting 'python3.6-pypcap' for regex 'python3.6'
Note, selecting 'python3.6-2to3' for regex 'python3.6'
Note, selecting 'python3.6-urwid' for regex 'python3.6'

spent half an hour trying to figure out why i had a bunch of random packages that I've never installed in my life installed

and its because apt decided to regex match a python3.6 install back in march

[regal tartan]

LMAO

[somber nebula]

Hi, i receive this error on exec of the command (uiserver):<user>:~$ apt install sudo

W: Unable to read /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/ - DirectoryExists (13: Permission denied)
W: Unable to read /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ - DirectoryExists (13: Permission denied)
W: Unable to read /etc/apt/sources.list - RealFileExists (13: Permission denied)
E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock-frontend - open (13: Permission denied)
E: Unable to acquire the dpkg frontend lock (/var/lib/dpkg/lock-frontend), are you root?

can someone help me please?

[dry orchid]

are you trying to install sudo?

[fresh saddle]

Weeelll, you need to run it with superuser rights, so either you already have sudo and you can sudo the apt command, or you escalate your shell to root using su - and retype the command (without sudo at the beginning) @somber nebula

[somber nebula]

Yes, because when i exec the command (venv) (uiserver):<user>:~$ sudo i receive

-bash: sudo: command not found

[dry orchid]

sudo is already installed. trying putting sudo in front of the command

@somber nebula try this link, and see if this helps. https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/471118/sudo-not-found-and-cant-be-installed?rq=1

[somber nebula]

Thanks

[dry orchid]

help please? #discord-bots message

[proven loom]

Hello there, is it possible to run python srcript as shell command? I am wrote my "hello, world" could i just move it to bin directory, and then just type "name.py" in terminal?

or it possible, only if i create a bash script that will open python file ?

[opaque ginkgo]

@proven loom give it a shebang

and then chmod +x

#!/usr/bin/env python3

[olive jungle]

why does WSL2 do this?

[opaque ginkgo]

idt that's wsl's fault

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/17136273/bin-bash-l-invalid-option/17136853

[olive jungle]

@opaque ginkgo so it's created for linux but since wsl 2 is windows the character's aren't seen correctly?

[fresh saddle]

That's interesting

When copy pasting this windows converted the line endings, most probably

[proven loom]

@opaque ginkgo thanks! works perfectly

[royal nymph]

How to rename a pygame.py inside a linux system

I’m getting this error

pygame.init() attributeerror: module 'pygame' has no attribute 'init’

[opaque ginkgo]

yeah but it's not wsl's fault

that will happen to any crlf file

even in native linux

[proper pawn]

What's Unix?

[summer trail]

A family of related operating systems

the 3 most common operating systems on a personal computer are MS Windows, Mac OS X, and Linux - both OS X and Linux are Unix derivatives.

[proper pawn]

Thanks

[main olive]

Hi

[sharp hedge]

hi

[abstract zodiac]

Hello 🙂

[solemn snow]

This is how u install homebrew on mac right(zsh not bash)
-c "$(curl -fsSL https://raw.githubusercontent.com/Homebrew/install/HEAD/install.sh)"

[opaque ginkgo]

@solemn snow oh no, another "pipe curl to bash" installer

[solemn snow]

i haven't done it yet

[opaque ginkgo]

at least wget then inspect it

then run bash

[solemn snow]

huh

i don't have bash i have zsh

[opaque ginkgo]

so?

the installation shouldn't depend on what your main shell is

As long as you run the installer with bash

[solemn snow]

ok so i run that script?

[finite crater]

Does this leave plain text credentials in the git repo?

#!/bin/bash

declare -rg TRUE=0
declare -rg FALSE=1

[[ -f ".env" ]] && source .env || { echo "Missing .env file. Exitting."; exit $FALSE; }

DEST=$(realpath $1)
[[ -d $DEST ]] && cd $DEST || { echo "$DEST does not exist"; exit $FALSE; }
PROJECT=$(basename $DEST)
ENDPOINT="https://$GITUSER:$GITPASS@$DOMAIN/$GITUSER/$PROJECT.git"

[[ $# -lt 2 ]] && { echo "Supply the script with './script.sh " }
[[ $# -gt 1 ]] && { COMMIT="$2"; } || { read -p 'Enter Commit Message Plox: >>>  ' COMMIT; }

git add *
git commit -m "$COMMIT"
git push "$ENDPOINT" master

I have not tested this yet because im not sure if supplying secrets from .env is secure passing them to git, even in this way. So I wanted to ask and might just delete this.

Im not the best at shell script and i know it probably needs some fixes.

I didnt finish the [[ $# -lt 2 ]] && { echo "Supply the script with './script.sh " } line

[dry orchid]

how do I uninstall JetBrains ToolBox?

[unique meadow]

Idk

[fresh saddle]

Well, how did you installed it?

[meager heron]

Windows control panel

[dry orchid]

to be honest, I don't remember. oh wait. I think I downloaded it to get PyCharmEdu IDE. Is there a way to remove toolbox without losing pycharm?

[dry orchid]

Im on Ubuntu 20.04

And also, how do I change what boots on startup? Sorry, im new to this OS

[meager heron]

Click on the Ubuntu Software icon in the Activities toolbar; this will open the Ubuntu Software manager through which you can search for, install and uninstall software from your computer. From the list of applications, look up for the one you want to uninstall and then click the Remove button against it.

[dry orchid]

I tried that, and my installed tab doesn't show up anything but a blank screen, and toolbox nor JetBrains yields any search research results for toolbox

I was able to find and delete all the folders for ToolBox and deleted them, and now am restarting my laptop, but im not sure if that actually un-installed it or not

Ok it did. Awesome. Tyvm!

[pastel sundial]

does anyone here know about qtile?

[wild yew]

hi

hi

hi

[main olive]

@wild yew

you can ask your question right away

[west violet]

hello

can someone help me?

[opaque ginkgo]

with what

[serene eagle]

map <leader>h <Ctrl>w h
map <leader>j <Ctrl>w j
map <leader>k <Ctrl>w k
map <leader>l <Ctrl>w l

In my .vimrc I'm trying to remap ctrl+w h/j/k/l to my leader key followed by and h/j/k/l I tried ticking them toget like this <Ctrl>wh and <Ctrl>wj and so on but it didn't work

Nevermind I figured it out

[summer trail]

Should be <C-w>h etc.

That is:
map <leader>h <C-w>h

[serene eagle]

Yeah, got it. Thanks.

[proven loom]

Hello, how do i search in Python documentation correct ? I mean, i am trying to find everything about read(), i start to searc at https://www.python.org/search/?q=read()&submit= and it just give a million links

[summer trail]

well, read() isn't one thing, it's a method of a bunch of different classes. A ctrl-f for "read()" here lists them all: https://docs.python.org/3/genindex-R.html

that's the "index" in the top right, next to the search box.

[proven loom]

@summer trail thanks 🙂

do i understood correct, that text file will close automatically, as soon as be readed

"(If a file descriptor is given, it is closed when the returned I/O object is closed, unless closefd is set to False.)"

using a closefd=TRUE

text = open(file_adress, "r",closefd=True)

correct ?

[proven loom]

of no, found answer ready

if closefd=True means file_adress(text = open(file_adress, "r",closefd=True)) is not a file name

[summer trail]

closefd is used for controlling whether or not calling close() on the file actually calls os.close on the underlying operating system file handle.

https://docs.python.org/3/library/os.html#os.close

[valid shore]

How to start a background program in linux?

[devout fable]

Suffix the command with an ampersand

Although it can get more complicated

https://www.tecmint.com/run-linux-command-process-in-background-detach-process/

This is a good read

[valid shore]

thanks

[lavish flame]

I recently switched to ubuntu from windows and have liked it a lot. however now i discovered the different de's and am debating with two of the popular de's (the default gnome and kde plasma). did anyone switch from the default gnome that came with ubuntu 20.04 to something like kubuntu or another flavor of ubuntu?

[left mulch]

you should be able to try all of it on the base ubuntu by installing the packages and switch the window managers

[lavish flame]

i tried that one time, i installed kde and it messed up my whole gnome, i couldn't switch back

which de do u use on ubuntu @left mulch

[left mulch]

none cause no ubuntu 🙂

[lavish flame]

oh lol windows then?

[left mulch]

dont make much use of linux as a desktop system

do use debian quite a lot to build linux related stuff tho

but do prefer bsd overall

but tonight osx gives me headaches cause of numpy, scipy, blas, lapack and assorted issues and when i got it all working portaudio jumped at me like not being happy with the developer version i am running

so gonna give vmware a spin and put another debian on it 😉

[left mulch]

https://regolith-linux.org/

[dry orchid]

is there a way to sync my vscode with my dropbox?

[amber garnet]

Put content in Dropbox dir?

You can create symlinks too but idk how Dropbox handles that

[left mulch]

https://syncthing.net/

started to use this when dropbox got this one particular board member

[main olive]

I'm newish to processes and stuff if i use ps -ef how do i find the command that spawns process

specifically my bash process

[left mulch]

https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/163603/how-to-find-source-of-spawning-process

[main olive]

thanks

[left mulch]

it's bit cumbersome using ps but can show the parent process id

i'd probably go for sysdig on linux.. or use python 🙂

[main olive]

aight thanks

[left mulch]

p = psutil.Process(7055)
parent_pid = p.ppid()

[main olive]

👍

[left mulch]

https://xon.sh/

or this 😄

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[civic glacier]

Helloo so I'm trying to learn linux and I made a main folder and 3 subfolders via mkdir I then made a txt file in Folder1 and i'm trying to copy it and transfer the copy to Folder2 but
cp test1.txt Folder2 just creates a file named Folder2 can someone help

[white citrus]

it depends on the direcory in which you are

if you are in Folder1 you need cp test1.txt ../Folder2

if you are in the directory over Folder1 you need cp Folder1/text1.txt Folder2

[civic glacier]

when i tried this one it said too many arguments

[white citrus]

which one?

cp test1.txt ../Folder2
# or
cp Folder1/text1.txt Folder2
``` ?

[civic glacier]

the second one

oh but i tried the first one and it worked

[white citrus]

.. stays for one directory up

[civic glacier]

cp test1.txt ../Folder2 this one worked

thanks a lot

[white citrus]

np 🙂

[normal rapids]

is this where i can ask about using linux commands with python?

[sacred tulip]

Any mac users here?

[iron tree]

yep i guess

what is your question?

im a noob so i only use linux commands to do simple stuff

[left mulch]

http://sol.gfxile.net/dontask.html

[sacred tulip]

Sorry about that lols

So I found this image on unixporn. Can something like this be replicated on a mac? Like the tiling manager and all? Sorry I know it's off topic

[devout fable]

Not sure about removing title bars, but tiling is possible

I don’t have a Mac so idk the name, but iirc there are applications you can install to enable auto tiling

[left mulch]

the tiling yea

https://github.com/gretel/dotfiles/blob/master/.hammerspoon/init.lua

also this https://karabiner-elements.pqrs.org/

it's all brewed and ready to be keged

there are various approaches and i did probably try most but this is what i kept sticking with

[opaque ginkgo]

typed python2 in finder. uhh deleted everything. and iii think its okay..?
someone in #python-discussion did this

don't personally use mac, so how bad is it and how can they fix it?

@main olive

[zenith hare]

i hope this is a good place to ask questions about uinput.

I'm trying to do absolute movement using python-uinput and found on an SO page that you have to set the range of the uinput.ABS_X and uinput.ABS_Y by adding a tuple to it.

I figured that the screen coordinates are where I must get those numbers from, and I did so by using xdotool

It doesn't quite work?

uinput.ABS_X + (1366, 2805, 0, 0),
uinput.ABS_Y + (0, 899, 0, 0),```

is what I'm using to move the mouse across my second monitor

it's placed weirdly

Ok I just figured it out

It uses the complete screen space no matter what numbers you put

So putting the top-left or bottom-right of the monitor wasn't bounding the area to that monitor

I ended up using the whole screenspace in the numbers and it works properly

And from that I can map a specific "area" on the screen corresponding to my monitor and work from coordinates relative to that area.

[devout fable]

Does anyone here know how I'd go about doing a regular expression that searches for multiple unique values? For example lets say I want to match only lines that have even digits in them, I could just do [02468].*[02468].*[02468] (because its fine if there is whitespace between them)

but what if I wanted to match lines with 3 digits in them, where all 3 are unique?

So match 24jbs0 but not 22jbs0

[inland gulch]

regex matching groups and lookaheads, I imagine you'll get it done

[quick wigeon]

Hi All,
I am not a programmer and started learning bash scripting. Now i want to advance to next level but cant find good tutorials. Most of the tutorials i found are for beginners such as discussing arrays..etc which i am bored of. I want to get into tool development and become an expert. Appreciate if anyone can suggest live online or ondemand training. Thanks in Advance.

[main olive]

Me too

[humble onyx]

tool development? I don't think bash scripting is what you are looking for

[rugged swift]

I've seen someone try to split a dataset using a bash script on doing his machine learning project. Lol

It's kinda funny; https://opensource.com/article/20/11/machine-learning-bash

[cosmic hedge]

Hi

[pastel sundial]

does anyone here use qtile

[drifting maple]

Any idea how to create an api endpoint to stream server logs?

[drifting maple]

I searched and got pyinotify, is that the way to go?

[bitter hamlet]

lol yeah same

[bitter hamlet]

how far along is temple os from being an actual OS with a package manager

[quick wigeon]

Simple tools , not full fledge and for automation tasks

[main olive]

is this channel just for unix stuff related to python

or can we talk about stuff like WMs

[inland gulch]

You catch a lot of random unix talk here... but the channel description does emphasise python on unix or unix-like systems. Are WMs window managers?

[main olive]

Yes

And they are usually written in C

[main olive]

The name 😮

Lol

Surely gives me some knowledge on how to go about with maths

in the modern day

I’m just a high school student 😭

ah

um

ok

you a tutor?

🙂

No

It’s a yt vid

gotchu

Anyway

I thought that was a title to motivate yourself haha

I use arch

It is

Anyway

I want a nice wm

But dwm and i3 don’t really suit me

And awesome

Blackbox?

[main olive]

neverheard of it

[main olive]

anyone know how to fix this zsh: command not found: pip

[winged jacinth]

try pip3

[main olive]

l o l

jk

[main olive]

try this https://larbs.xyz/
it will look like this
https://larbs.xyz/pix/desktops/pic-full-200720-1137-54.png

checkout lukesmith on youtube for more of his build of dwm

[dusty goblet]

has anyone done assembly programming and use avr studio before?

[desert oasis]

I don't think such people exist. What even is avr studio?

[inland gulch]

@dusty goblet I've done assembly, don't think I've used that tool though, gcc-avr iirc

[dusty goblet]

Ahh okay

Do you jnow how to go about this

@inland gulch

[inland gulch]

sorry its been too long since I studied that stuff, xor and bit shift right, but I cannot remember the details, theres a plethora of cleverness involved there that i'm not smart enough for

[lusty dust]

Hi guys
I downloaded the freebsd source and i wanna make change to some files after that i wanna create an Installation ISO image from edited source
How can I create the ISO for installation with my edited files? or in linux not just freeBSD

[pine geode]

Hi guys do you know how to select file like this "-6Pj64zANx8sddefault.jpg"

When i try to move file, its always invalid option

[opaque ginkgo]

ls ./-6Pj64zANx8sddefault.jpg

@pine geode

[main olive]

How to make it work even when I'm shutting down pc if the session is about to end?

its putty' ssh connection

[tardy walrus]

@main olive Use GNU screen to run it :

Install it with sudo apt-get install screen. Then, start a new screen session with screen, launch your bot inside it, then do Ctrl-A d to detach from it once the bot is launched. You'll then be able to close your ssh connection, and still have the bot run.

[fresh saddle]

Adding an & at the end of the command also works

[main olive]

🤔 So I can launch multiple processes with screen?

Sounds cool

btw how to shut down screens?

kill the process?

cuz I somehow launched 2 screens

yep maybe I should try

[opaque ginkgo]

tmux >>>> screen

[tardy walrus]

ctrl-a k while in the screen

I suggest you to press ctrl-a ? while in a screen to see the commands

[tardy walrus]

I know it's nice but I can't tmux lol

[fleet scroll]

Just loop it.

[dusty goblet]

Yeah i did that

[fickle wadi]

yo does anyone have any experience with zsh scripting?

I have literally zero experience other than a few custom zsh aliases

but im trying to script a function to open a link

so far no success

#! /bin/zsh


function openLink {
    link = open -a Safari: "${link}"
}

openLink https://www.apple.com

This is my code. The only question I had is how do I make this dynamic? So far its just tells me the tags I can put on after open. I just want to be able to put in any link and have it open it for me

Also I am very sorry if this is the wrong channel and I apologize in advance if thats the case. Thanks for reading this! Hope you have an amazing day.

[fickle wadi]

nvm fixed it

[sly heath]

Hi, just a quick question. How can i output to multiple terminals? I want something like this example ```python

terminal_1 = ...

terminal_2 = ...

print("First hello") # output to terminal 1
print("Second hello") # output to terminal 2

In my specific case, i want 2 terminal (cmd), in the first one i want to output what the program do, and in the second one i want just only print some data that the program is processing.

Sorry, but I red your message ahah😅 😅

Yes, ok, it says me /dev/ttys000

And second one is /dev/ttys001

How can i tell python output something in 000 and something in 001

[flint tapir]

hey there. was curious if someone could give me a quick python lesson or point me to resources that can give me more information

im using a gcp server to run through a couple different CSV files and output 3 new CSVs

1 CSV has about 3 million lines, and the other two have like 3 and 6 resepectively (basically i'm doing some nested loops to create combinations of all 3 CSVs and output them to 3 new CSVs of 9M - 75M lines each)

the GCP server has 32 cores but i notice that when i run the script my CPU utilization maxes out at about 1.7 - 2.2%

basically im curious if i can learn more about what python is doing under the hood that caps the CPU utilization as opposed to trying to use more available CPU to write to my files faster

unless maybe it's just the way i wrote my program, meaning the way i'm looping / writing will only go so fast?

[sly heath]

can i ask you which drive do you use, do you use an hdd or ssd?

[rocky burrow]

Hey friends I installed the neovim in my ubuntu distro using wsl. It works fine and I set it up using this
https://github.com/ChristianChiarulli/nvim so that there are no errors in what I do.
However there is a problem with displaying the icons and in the lua files of this program....could some one help me to what to do....thanks

Look at the top right...the icon looks like question mark

These are the errors as you see

[candid locust]

is lua installed?

[rocky burrow]

Like if you mean sourcing and installing the packages yes I did that

but is there some other lua installation

[pastel sundial]

@rocky burrow install nvim nightly version

the latest version

[analog vessel]

is there a mac guy here
I want to convert my py file to .app but I don't have a mac, so can anyone help?

[inland gulch]

What kind of help do you need?
The pypi module py2app https://py2app.readthedocs.io/en/latest/index.html should be able to convert it for you, I don't know how you can distribute/host the app. I guess you're looking for a mac to test it?

[snow thorn]

You can also use systemd if you want the process to run in the background, on boot

[devout fable]

Adding onto this, I’ve found ways to compile python code into both windows and Mac binaries, but is there a way to compile to a Linux binary?

[analog vessel]

actually I'm on windows so I can't compile it for mac users

so I am just someone who can compile it in mac and send me the files

[digital raven]

pyinstaller says it works on linux. maybe try that?

[rustic pollen]

Should I install Homebrew on Rosetta or Natively on the new m1 macs...?

I'm new to shell programming...

So I'm not able to decide...

[stark tide]

I've been using tmux to run my bot on my old 32-bit machine lately.. but It seems to end the process for some reason.. I'm not sure if it's my machine restarting automatically or something else. Does anyone got any insight on this?

I'm on linux mint

[acoustic oar]

I am attempting to watch my variables as my bot connects to discord. But I keep getting a time out.
How can I keep this from happening?
I am using pudb3 as my debuger.
Does anyone have any ideas which could lead me to an answer?

[acoustic oar]

also run :checkhealth and post it.

[tender lark]

So when I put in sudo apt-get update in my terminal it gives me an error

Although I install SSH previously which might have caused this error, I am not 100% sure.

[inland gulch]

Is the 404 for that oranchello icon theme or a private ip where your hosting an apt package?

@analog vessel is your code open or closed source?

[tender lark]

for the icon theme

[analog vessel]

there's a github repo

https://github.com/simplycode07/SKYZoom

[inland gulch]

@analog vessel I'll take a look after work

[analog vessel]

k
thanks

[inland gulch]

@tender lark the error "not valid for 10 hours..." is suspect to me. Did you secure the ssh after you added it? Is ntp configured for the instance?

[tender lark]

I activated the ssh

and I don't think I configured the ntp

[tender lark]

Before it did that, I tried updating my Nvidia Graphics card driver and on the Ubuntu help forum for instructions and it said to install SSH before trying to update it in the terminal

and I did not know that I needed a remote server to use ssh

https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-install-the-nvidia-drivers-on-ubuntu-20-04-focal-fossa-linux

here's the instructions I was using

[inland gulch]

What kind of setup is it? A dedicated nix machine or a dual boot machine or a virtualmachine/container of some sort?

[tender lark]

dual boot machine

I have 2 os's

[inland gulch]

Is the date and time roughly correct on the one in trouble?

[tender lark]

actually no

when I change the time on linux, it also changes the time on the other operating system

and vice versa

[main olive]

same i want..

[inland obsidian]

@main olive use screen

[main olive]

good evening, i am stuck on a small problem form 4 hr actually i am unable to run my CGI enabled python file with python3 and when i am trying to import mysql.connector it shows me a error missing module but when i am trying to run the same with direct method it works fine.. PLEASE HELP ME!

[main olive]

mysql.connector, not sql.connector

yes sir i tried the same nnone of them are working

i am using apache server with CGI to run this file and interpreter is #!/usr/bin/python3

[inland gulch]

sounds like both o.s. are using the hardware clock, change one to not use it. you can try check config in a terminal with timedatectl

[stark tide]

I'm trying to set my ssh server on WAN.. I'm port forwarding but when I use user@WANIP from outside network.. it doesn't work but it does get connected in local network.. how can I make it so that it's available on WAN?

[formal schooner]

@stark tide make sure you forwarded the right port 😉 and also make sure there isn't some additional firewall running on your local machine

local machine should be running sshd, listening on 0.0.0.0:22, and you should obviously be forwarding port 22

[stark tide]

@formal schooner I tried to look around.. turns out I have wan_ip different from my public_ip... it's my ISP 😦

[formal schooner]

oh, your ISP is doing NAT probably

that's frustrating.

[stark tide]

i guess

idk what to do now

[formal schooner]

me neither... maybe ask in a networking forum of some kind

https://serverfault.com perhaps

(search before asking)

[stark tide]

yeah

[main olive]

I'm learning ASP.net
and am having a issue
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/aspnet/core/tutorials/razor-pages/razor-pages-start?view=aspnetcore-5.0&tabs=visual-studio-code
I followed these instructions
(im on linux)
and when I do ctrl+f5 it just opens chrome and a localhost:8080 this site can't be reached

got it

I needed to do the dotnet run comman

[amber garnet]

Is it related with Python?

[main olive]

not in the slightest

[main olive]

kali linux or redhat?

I get they're different in general but

whats the key factor to make you pick one of the two sides?

@ me

[inland gulch]

Key factor: is it the right tool for the job.

Alternatives:

• pedigree of the distro
• governance/maintenance

[main olive]

terminal download speed tooo much slow 🥺 any solution ?

[main olive]

What distro are you using @main olive

I recommend updating the repos

To somewhere near your country

debian

[main olive]

yeh i updated repost

before none command of apt was working

Make sure the repos are closer to your country

And remove the other ones

So I would say make the closest repo to your country in number one

i am from nepal

how can i get repos command lines

And the farther away your country gets from the repo lower in down by 1

🥺

[main olive]

What do you mean

The repos is usually in a file

You can get the actual repos from the debian website I believe

that is old ita was not working before i went linux repos on web and copy pasted in my file

Yeah some repos are down

You just have to do a trial and error I guess

yes

how can i get repos for my country

area

region

etc

i

i am using this right now

stop

don't use kali on your actual machine

🛑

Ah that's fucked practise

lol

kali is meant for vms

You can fuck up your debian install

thats kali not debian

yes

@main olive no he said it's Debian

look at screenshot

its obviously kali

unless he riced the heck out of debian

debain based kali

Yeah you can put the repo of kali on any distro lmao

kali based debian

so it is kali then?

So it's Debian or kali ?

@main olive

kali linux

🤦‍♂️

Bruh

yikes

skid alert?

😆 😅

[main olive]

Why The flying fuck did you say this than

what are you trying to do with kali

yes

[main olive]

cause kali is debain based probs

yes

so i said

Yeah but that doesn't mean they are the same

true

They have different repos

but why are you using discord on kali

how to fix that 🤦‍♀️?

why are you using kali?

Kali has a limited number of repos so idk

do you know what kalis for?

@main olive mate why do you care so much let him do whatever

[main olive]

i like kali and i have to use kali 😓

😅

[main olive]

I was a stupid skid once, I'm trying to help them realize don't do dumb stuff

I use kali as well

on bare metal?

Nun has happened to me

Yeah

🤣

IM DEAD

[main olive]

😕😕😶

I have 4gb ram so I can't really use a VM

It sucks but it's whatever

just install the kali packages

on your machine

smh

@main olive 👀

or use a live usb

@main olive I have tried that but it's not worth the trouble

Some shit just don't work the same

its really not that hard...

smh

Im gonna leave you two skids to it

Yeah if you have used john or any other one of those tools

have fun trying to use kali as a daily driver...

It's really stupid

I have john installed rn

it works the exact same on kali and debian and arch

john is john is john

its all the same

Can you turn it into john's format when cracking?

I know that shit doesn't work

yes

it does work

just install kali repos on debian

or black arch repos on arch

🤷‍♂️

So what's the point if you are going to be using kali's repo lmao

Normal repos from actual distros don't work

yes they do

in what world do they not?

Mate trust me they don't

...

They do

It installs

thats the point of them...

But you can't do shit with the formats

And all the extensions

then you have to manually compile

not a big deal

I heard there is a community version

or just use kalis binary

But I didn't have a good experience with that

[main olive]

Again why the fuck would you waste your time setting all that up when you can just use the kali iso instead?

Give me your reasoning

Educate me

Why shouldn't we use kali?

Don't give me some outdated shit with security either

@main olive yo you there?

Mate where tf did you go

I'm tryna ask you a question

What's so wrong with kali?

[main olive]

Also what is dumb stuff

Elaborate

Feel free to ping me I'm not about to let this slide

Take as much time as you need

[opaque ginkgo]

running kali as your main os

is stupid

kali jtr isn't even jumbo

so you need to compile it anyways if you want all the formats

but anyways

kali is not designed to be a normal os

its for pentesting

that means installing normal applications require you to use weird tricks

https://unix.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/5360/why-is-kali-linux-so-hard-to-set-up-why-wont-people-help-me

also vanilla debian has a bunch of kali tools already anyways

its just that kali has them preinstalled

[round flicker]

whither rpm distros now that Red Hat is part of the dark side

do you think that any linux based on RHEL still has a future

or will .deb win the packaging wars and RH-based distros die out after being bled dry by Big Blue

[opaque ginkgo]

also i think they're running kali with root as default

which makes it extra insecure

[main olive]

@opaque ginkgo not that hard to create a new user for one

Second they don't

@opaque ginkgo Kali isn't designed to be that way but it doesn't mean you cant

[main olive]

Not really

[opaque ginkgo]

vanilla debian has john, hydra, hashcat, gobuster, ffuf

[main olive]

True but they work the same way

I mean they do

But you are going to be bombarded with errors because of missing packages or shit like that

And it's kinda hard to troubleshoot

[opaque ginkgo]

what?

why would you get errors

tf

[main olive]

If you know you know

I'm taking from experience

And I've asked others

[opaque ginkgo]

why would you get a missing package error

[main olive]

And most of them told me that they use kali's shit

@opaque ginkgo idk that's just the way it is

[opaque ginkgo]

literally all of these are in the default debian repos

[main olive]

The tool itself installs fine

And you can do some basic shit

But

[opaque ginkgo]

also

[main olive]

When you a re trying to convert formats and shit

[opaque ginkgo]

vms exist

[main olive]

It just tells you that it's missing

[opaque ginkgo]

like what?

jtr?

[main olive]

And nothing you can do from there

[opaque ginkgo]

kali doesn't have john jumbo either

[main olive]

@opaque ginkgo it's been so long I can't remember

[opaque ginkgo]

you need to compile it on kali too

[main olive]

O

[opaque ginkgo]

so its exactly the same as what would happen on vanill debian

[main olive]

True but if you want to use on bare metal why the fuck does anyone care it's the same shit

[opaque ginkgo]

becausee

[main olive]

Because?

[opaque ginkgo]

kali doesn't have 99% of actual user packages

[main olive]

What do you mean?

[opaque ginkgo]

like actual applications that aren't for pentesting

[main olive]

Why would you use kali for anything else

I don't think you understand where I'm coming from

I'm talking about using kali for it's intended purpose just not on a VM

It's like using ubuntu as a pentesting distro

It's the same shit

Idk why people hate so much on kali

[opaque ginkgo]

a bunch of people use ubuntu for pentesting but ok