#career-advice

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white relic
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also, inflation ๐Ÿ˜›

silver jacinth
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don't expect that to last forever lol

fringe sphinx
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Their python team was like 10 people, right?

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spring lodge
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so does that mean python is falling?

fringe sphinx
silver jacinth
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https://techcrunch.com/2024/05/01/google-lays-off-staff-from-flutter-dart-python-weeks-before-its-developer-conference/?guccounter=1

CNBC reports that a total of 200 people were let go across Googleโ€™s โ€œCoreโ€ teams, which included those working on Python, app platforms, and other engineering roles. Some jobs were being shifted to India and Mexico, it said, citing internal documents.

TechCrunch
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Exclusive: Google lays off staff from Flutter, Dart and Python team...

Google told TechCrunch that Flutter will have new updates to share at I/O this year.

fringe sphinx
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" which included those working on Python, app platforms, and other engineering roles"

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My understanding is the python part was 10 people.

spring lodge
fringe sphinx
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And, Google laying off 200 people is like a elephant farting in the forest.

fringe sphinx
kindred oyster
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i assume they just want cheaper labour

fringe sphinx
kindred oyster
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fair , but they still might want that , we wont know
but changing an already established team working on a language and sourcing it from other countries ...๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ

fringe sphinx
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They may instead re-hire onto other teams/etc.

kindred oyster
fringe sphinx
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Who knows... sometimes companies layoff a department because it avoids termination lawsuits

kindred oyster
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lmao

fringe sphinx
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(ie: you can't claim to be singled out if your entire dept was axed)

silver jacinth
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nah its to do with revenue, less employees = bigger profit

fringe sphinx
spring lodge
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@kindred oyster

silver jacinth
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google's earning projections suck for instance so layoffs make share price go up

kindred oyster
fringe sphinx
spring lodge
silver jacinth
fringe sphinx
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Let's just say, laying off 200 people is normal business for big companies.

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Even pre covid.

silver jacinth
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but still its trading at 27 PE, meaning 27x earnings with not much growth

fringe sphinx
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When I worked in big tech, we'd have layoffs just about every year. Like clockwork.

silver jacinth
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anyways google is a bad company, they legit paid the gov money to try and avoid DOJ fines

fringe sphinx
silver jacinth
fringe sphinx
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That seems reasonable?

silver jacinth
fringe sphinx
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If I sue you for $X, and you pay me $X, then the lawsuit is more or less over (I'm not a lawyer)

silver jacinth
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its more like "if I pay x, then look the other way. We aren't going to court for a monopoly"

fringe sphinx
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That's how a lawsuit works.

silver jacinth
sinful tinsel
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yooo

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hii

fringe sphinx
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You can search Pacer for the docket documents.

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DOJ didn't aim for a higher number, since Google's MTD says it paid the full amount claimed.

silver jacinth
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it wasn't even taken to court and charges weren't given

fringe sphinx
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Lawsuits are very expensive. It's very often cheaper to settle.

fringe sphinx
silver jacinth
fringe sphinx
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Also, it's bad practice to read into legal filings. There's many levels of strategery at play here, and this is just one half of an argument (you have to put it in context of the complaint, prior filings, and wait for DOJs reply to the MTD, and then wait months to see what the court decides)

silver jacinth
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all I know is if google does go to court they will get a massive fine

fringe sphinx
silver jacinth
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everyone big is leaving openai

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nah its more like altman is trying to turn openai into a full on profits company

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microsoft open sources their orca models

little heron
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I guess yes?

smoky quest
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silver jacinth
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Nah illya left

smoky quest
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sure, but he was more of a researcher than a tech person

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I don't think it ever was a research company. That's the beauty of the con they pulled

silver jacinth
smoky quest
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smoky quest
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I wouldn't put too much chips on that.

silver jacinth
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All the source code is there

smoky quest
silver jacinth
smoky quest
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No one said he is not legit

silver jacinth
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He wrote the transformer paper, whole reason we have the llm boom

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Well yeah but most of them left

smoky quest
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the thing I want to point out are:

  • It would have happened with or without him
  • He is a researcher, not a product/business/tech person

He also probably made enough so that he doesn't care about money either

silver jacinth
smoky quest
silver jacinth
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That's all I need to know lol. Altman never touched code

smoky quest
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that's part of the job when you build a business

silver jacinth
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He's the hype person

smoky quest
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There are plenty of other competent engineers who stayed at the company

silver jacinth
smoky quest
silver jacinth
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He's probably at Microsoft as msft stated they're hiring people from openai

smoky quest
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he can probably work on whatever he wants and companies would still pay him for it

silver jacinth
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Altman was the block chain guy crypto nft worldcoin

silver jacinth
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The super alignment team was working on the new stuff and most are gone

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nope there was a report for an interview where after altman left (they tried to push him out), the board then had to bring him back and then people started leaving

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basically altman was the problem since he wanted to turn it into a $$$ company

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these people are also leaving their multi million dollar packages they would get if they stayed

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superalignment is the team that works on gpt5

fringe sphinx
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We should take this off-topic... (long ago, tbh)

silver jacinth
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yes, super alignment is their "AGI" team

indigo willow
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What should I choose for CS

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I don't know whether I want to follow the path of AI and ML, Web Development or Software development, I honestly am confused out of my mind because I am applying to colleges soon and I want to do some projects related to my passion but how can I do them if I don't even know my own passion.

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Everything just seems to difficult, even though I like coding, I am not sure what to do

vapid jay
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You don't have to settle for a specialization already. Just stick in the core for a year. And then you can switch later

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So if you're unsure what to pursue, I recommend you learn web development

indigo willow
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Right now, I am about to jump off a cliff bcuz of web dev. I don't understand React.js and it seems pretty dumb to me. Making algorithms solving those problems are so appealing. and it makes me feel like a failure tbh lol

indigo willow
vapid jay
indigo willow
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Yep

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Had a teacher work us till the bone

vapid jay
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Umm I don't know much about web dev.

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I'm learning ML rn

silver jacinth
indigo willow
silver jacinth
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its mostly math stuff, rather than coding. So its not for everyone

indigo willow
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im dyslexic so im at a disadvantage lol

silver jacinth
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you could go into BI stuff since that works with AI stuff just for visualization basically

indigo willow
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hm, thanks, both of u

steep plinth
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I'm asking this question for a friend. I hope someone can offer some advice. They're currently learning Python. They want to work in the IT Field. They have +5 Years of Customer Experience due to retail work & other work. How can she get into the IT Field? : (

peak halo
steep plinth
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Can't she get work without a degree?

peak halo
# steep plinth Can't she get work without a degree?

If she wants to work as a programmer, and her only professional experience is in retail, and she doesn't have any relevant academic experience, then it's very unlikely that she will be able to get a job through only self-study.

steep plinth
peak halo
steep plinth
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She does have more passion for software development but she feels it will be a much more difficult path to achieve things

peak halo
true harness
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you could try asking preocts, I think they might have some advice

steep plinth
fringe sphinx
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peak halo
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steep plinth
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I think her resume is currently in the setup of retail. I'm sure that won't help ๐Ÿ˜…

fringe sphinx
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Depends on the job she's applying for.

steep plinth
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Understood. What's the best advice you can give her?

fringe sphinx
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If helpdesk, I'd emphasize the customer service part of her experience.

steep plinth
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Thank you kindly Billy! You & the others have been very helpful. Do you know of any other places she should search for job opportunities? I think she uses Indeed

fringe sphinx
steep plinth
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I understand. Do you recommend sending a Cover Letter or do you think it's not worth it?

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She told me that she thinks that due to her mentioning she is studying a course. She feels that this is what is killing her chances during an interview. Should she just not mention she's studying?

fringe sphinx
steep plinth
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She is curious on whether mentioning it to the interviewer is the reason why she isn't being given a chance to work

fringe sphinx
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Is she studying for a degree?

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Or just a class?

stuck jetty
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someone who came from other language what is best way to learn python?

fringe sphinx
stuck jetty
digital fjord
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the official tutorial should be a strong start

steep plinth
fringe sphinx
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fringe sphinx
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Are you asking how someone in a SWE degree program can get a job? Apply for internships.

steep plinth
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I was asking whether she needed a degree because she wanted to know if it's possible to get into IT Field work environments before graduating

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There's still around 3-4 years remaining on her course. I hope this explains things better

fringe sphinx
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Yah, that's a completely different question. She should be asking her career services (at the University) about internships

steep plinth
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This is why she was asking whether it's smart to mention University or not during a job interview

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tender mural
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Hello all I have learned the python now I want to start learning about data science and machine learning can you provide me any content or anu kind of links so I can start my journey in it.

fringe sphinx
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!kin so is doing small projects to practice your skills.

inner wrenBOT
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Kindling Projects

The Kindling projects page on Ned Batchelder's website contains a list of projects and ideas programmers can tackle to build their skills and knowledge.

sick plaza
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@tender mural Elements of Statistical Learning is a gold standard

tender mural
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can you provide me any video resources because I am too demotivated after not finding any good instructor

fringe sphinx
sick plaza
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there's Andrew Ng's videos

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I don't think anyone can claim he's anything but a good instructor

tender mural
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what will you suggest me to go forward with after learning python??

fringe sphinx
tender mural
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and how do you guys find clients for your work?

sick plaza
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It depends on what you want to do. There's a lot of overlap but a large part of the dispersion in career outcomes is domain knowledge and specialization

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Someone who gets really deep into bioinformatics is going to have an edge on bioinformatics jobs, etc.

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so I guess I would pick an area that interests you and figure out how to apply machine learning to that field

tender mural
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I love doing Maths

sick plaza
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right but maths isn't an industry or even a function really

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I'd say pick something you want to apply machine learning to and build a portfolio of projects focused on that area

tender mural
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I enjoy both coding and maths so will data science and machine learning will be good choice for me?

fringe sphinx
sick plaza
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In reality you can rarely find a job that appreciates math for what it is

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everyone is looking how to solve their practical problems, even in areas that seem more mathematical, people rarely have patience to have things explained to them in mathematical or statistical terminology

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what differentiates career outcomes is specialization in a field of work imo

tender mural
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okay noted
but how do people find clients for themself to work with

fringe sphinx
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Or, looking to study for a degree and are asking how to get a job?

tender mural
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looking to study for a degree and asking how can I get jobs afterwards..

sick plaza
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typically the way it works is internships

tender mural
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okay

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@sick plaza @fringe sphinx
thanks both of you for the ideas and the help.

silk rose
fringe sphinx
sick plaza
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There are two ways to go about things. The corrupt disgusting way that accounts for 90% of cases and the 10% way of busting your ass networking.

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the 90% case is going through the university and hopefully they have the relationships with employers to get internship spots

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they actually reserve internship spots for certain universities at a lot of companies, which is why I call it corrupt and digusting

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there's a whole industry built around how people get jobs and this is the system that they decided upon

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you have to go to university and have to get your job through your university, in most cases

fringe sphinx
true hatch
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If I hate middle school, will I hate university?

fleet reef
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itdepends on the reasons why

dim coyote
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Hey everyone! I've been learning how to code for a while now and been thinking about how to get sort of more professional experience aside from my personal projects to put it in my resume. Today, I had my first interview at The Recurse Center which is a place you can be creating and sharing with other professionals in the industry. You could check out the website, there's plenty of info about the program

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The Recurse Center

The Recurse Center is a self-directed, community-driven educational retreat for programmers in New York City.

true hatch
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I don't like any of my subjects

regal axle
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regal axle
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true hatch
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no

regal axle
# true hatch no

Yea; without knowing you at all or anything about your life or situation, this sounds like an issue of not school specifically.
It might be manifesting through school; but if I had to guess, whatever is bothering you is not specifically "school" (in relation to your original question).

It is hard becuase I really can't give you any meaningful advice or guidance without knowing you better. The general advice is to try to find someone you can trust in your life who is able to help you / talk with you about this type of thing.
And if you don't have anyone like that,,, there are still people who would be willing to help. It can just be hard to guage how helpful they will be. Like some school councilors can be saints and really help you out. But others ,,,, are not.

Regardless, I wish you all the luck.

gritty rivet
true hatch
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buoyant seal
# gritty rivet No... Middle school was the absolute worst years of my life, by a lot. Life will...

@true hatch I second that. ๐Ÿ˜ Middle school sucked. Everyone behaved... meh. And i was socially awkward person too.

University is a start from a blank page, and everyone is mature at this point and capable to communicate civilly and level headed with each other.
Also it helped that we had a plenty of shared interests this time too, since we entered same CS program ^_^.

Kids were really mean in middle school too. I was bullied constantly. In high school that pretty much wasn't an issue anymore
same. Young children are monsters, hehe.

drowsy storm
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Hey I would love to chat or chill and talk about python, used to dabble in python last year. Would love to refresh my memory by chatting with someone etc.
Sorta transitioning into DS roles soon so this would be very helpful for me

Work exp 5 years+ in digital marketing & product on my end.
Would love to discuss my journey if you want to learn about digital marketing as well! I also enjoy gaming, traveling, and learning about different random things.

Cheers
Elevate

dusky badger
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Hi guys , Iโ€™ve recently created a server focused on discussing mental health specific to software developers. we share useful resources there .

hidden field
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@zealous crow

silk rose
long juniper
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@ocean jolt see

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dusky prairie
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i need te send 50 msgs

gritty rivet
buoyant seal
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You could briefly tell the domain of a solution. What is it for? Just at least at the level of a domain scope (like Ticketing System, or Banking App and etc)

fringe sphinx
brazen island
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I reached out to my contact and I think I'll join them ๐Ÿ‘€

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Was a very productive lunch, to the point where it'd be a bit bad of me to pull out afterwards. I'll keep applying/doing interviews with others until it's sealed though.

The funny thing is, just as I did the reach out all the interviews I did that were stalling started moving ๐Ÿ˜‚

brazen island
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They started moving out of nowhere. Some even that I didn't apply for

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But, yeah the one I reached out to is my clear #1 because:

  1. I've worked with them in the passed. Both parties were happy
  2. They're trying to accelerate the process / making exceptions
  3. I could see myself working there long term. Maybe it was a bad idea not to have started there as soon as I graduated
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I'll follow them all up, but I'm less stressed out now

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In Belgium as soon as you declare your intention to resign you get 1 day off per week (paid!) for job search purposes so I have all the time in the world to do so. It lasts as long as your notice period.

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I genuinely don't know how people do on-sites abroad without this rule

fringe sphinx
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But that's an amazing policy.

brazen island
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I only did so once because the convo was overwhelmingly positive and they didn't reach back in the timespan they promised. Otherwise I just wait.

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I'm not the greatest at job searching though. I've always had nice things (with low effort) and it's a combination of luck and networking

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Yeah that was the case with my current job. I sent in my CV, got invited 2-3 days later and the day after they called me to tell me I had it

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This is a bit extreme though because it kind of assumes the quality filter is low

gritty rivet
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fiery meadow
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that is an exploit and a potential malware

boreal grotto
fiery meadow
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a simple youtube search tells a lot about it

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analog sun
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!rule 9 6

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Rules

6. Do not post unapproved advertising.

9. Do not offer or ask for paid work of any kind.

analog sun
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This is not the server you are looking for

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Hello, your message has been removed for violating rules 5 and 6

vapid jay
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๐Ÿ’€ oh ok mb

jolly sluice
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Why is chat AI so popular?

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It's basically a just glorified search bar

fringe sphinx
jolly sluice
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Not its a wendys

fringe sphinx
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Donkey Kong?

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๐Ÿ˜ฟ

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Oh. Hah.

soft shuttle
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Hello, I would appreciate if someone can review my resume and give feedback. Thanks!

kindred oyster
soft shuttle
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my bad

kindred oyster
# soft shuttle my bad

its all good
just post a censored version of it
blurr over irrelevent personal details

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yes , but A HUGE number of them is dead accounts, inactive people , people who just joined the server for one thing and never looked back etc etc

the very active members would be few hundred or thousands

fringe sphinx
# soft shuttle Hello, I would appreciate if someone can review my resume and give feedback. Tha...

At first glance, it's a good resume. Solid template, good layout. Profile is fine... could be shortened a little, but the important part is you're describing yourself as a Full Stack Developer... so I'd probably move React & Node closer to those words: Versatile Full Stack Developer with proficiency in React.js and Node.js. That maximizes the initial keyword search hit. Your experience doesn't say anything about coding tho, and implies a 1 year gap from coding. Adding some dates to your projiects, especially recent, might close the gap a bit.

fringe sphinx
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soft shuttle
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So need inputs on whether to keep the experience or not since i am technically working since the past one year

fringe sphinx
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But, I'd suggest some projects with dates, showing that you're still working on your technical skills.

soft shuttle
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Okay cool. Thank you so much!

calm garnet
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@fast fossil what do you mean by the 20 80 rule? ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

vapid jay
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also called pareto principle

calm garnet
fringe sphinx
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I know a lot of well-funded startups that hired too many engineers, and build too much, only to completely miss their market.

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brittle ember
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I am planning to start a new job in IT. I completed my engineering in Computer Science in 2020, but due to the lockdown, I decided to study law. Now that I have graduated from law school, I feel I should join a job in IT. I don't have formal work experience, but I have done some DIY projects using Python and made contributions on GitHub.

There is a company hiring for a customer support specialist with a remote posting. I have applied twice but did not get selected. What should I do? What certifications should I add to my resume to increase my chances of getting hired? Please guide me.

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This is my resume

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Please roast me or criticize me but please give me constructive feedback so that I can improve my resume or my chances of getting hired.

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The company I'm applying for asks whether I have used their product and, if yes, how much. If this question is relevant, shall I be using their product? Will it increase my chance of getting hired?

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Customer support specialist.

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I love your username and loved the movie โ˜บ๏ธ .

brittle ember
# soft shuttle

This format looks good. Shall I create one with this template @turbid bobcat

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Will certifications be helpful like comptia a+ or similar?

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Will no work experience be a roadblock in this case?

brittle ember
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The reason for applying that specific job is it is remote plus they are giving a respectable salary. My mom is old and I need to be home so that I can take care of her.

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So basically my resume (the points you have highlighted in my resume) is getting in between me the the job and applying ๐Ÿ˜…

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Will definitely do.

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I'll get the template and start preparing both resumes

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One more query I have in mind. Is it okay to message one of the recruiter of the company on linkedin to seek help or get more details about the job posting?

brittle ember
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Thanks alot @turbid bobcat for your help and crucial time. I'll keep posting with updates

vapid jay
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Have you found a job already?

kindred oyster
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hey , whats this ?

brittle ember
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Will do. Thanks again.

fringe sphinx
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Also, that'd be a great crossover movie.

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obsidian trail
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Hello everyone I would like to know what do you guys do to earn income from python like app or web development or ml/ai

fringe sphinx
obsidian trail
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Even in job what you got hired for

fringe sphinx
smoky quest
onyx swallow
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oh ok thanks i will remove it from here.

obsidian trail
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is uni and a cs degree a necessity if i want to run a agency uni is generally pretty expensive and there a lot of free resources avalaible online

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smoky quest
# obsidian trail app and web development agency

Without an education you will struggle with:

  • Completing the work yourself
  • Being trusted and having people follow you
  • Finding contracts and people willing to hire you
  • Managing your business

In short, you will be taken advantage of and end up spending far more on your street education

obsidian trail
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you guys are right about that my friend is a agency owner but he does not have any degree only past work as a portfolio and his agency did 50k in sales last month

fringe sphinx
obsidian trail
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i never really asked him about that

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obsidian trail
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so did you guys do a degree in cs ?

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obsidian trail
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what do they teach in math?

smoky quest
obsidian trail
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@fringe sphinx how old are you?

obsidian trail
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from now on i will call you MR billy

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im almost the age of your son

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obsidian trail
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can i add you as a friend it would be great to take advice from seniors if needed

obsidian trail
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Mr. Billy can I ? @fringe sphinx

karmic flame
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Guys can u help me how can I learn the basics of python ?

obsidian trail
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im slightly ahead of your situatiom

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im also learning python rn as my first programming language and i have cracked 50 percent of the basics

karmic flame
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I have a little experience with Lua (the child of python)

obsidian trail
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i usually look up a playlist on youtube or a long form video of some reputated youtubers

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obsidian trail
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freecodecamp(as i heard about it) is great but i learnt most of the things from cs50 course

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its available on youtube

karmic flame
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Yeah I know but I find that freecodecamp is easier and faster , what is your roadmap?

obsidian trail
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after learning python ?

karmic flame
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Yeah

obsidian trail
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Im intersted in app and web devlopment and ai/machine learning(if i have freetime)

karmic flame
obsidian trail
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after python i am going to learn js and css,html

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lol why

karmic flame
obsidian trail
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yea

karmic flame
obsidian trail
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btw how old are you? im 15

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im kinda young but i was pretty interested in computers from a early age and i got my gaming pc a gift few months earlier

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are you here ? @karmic flame

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obsidian trail
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i thought you ghosted me

vapid jay
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Is cs50 overrated?

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they teach you everything you need to become a developer

vapid jay
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but every course they teach is labelled cs50 isnt it?

obsidian trail
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yea its from havard

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but everything is not cs50

fiery meadow
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stop aiming for stuff like this and focus on getting into university

vapid jay
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umm how exactly am i supposed to find this harvard course related to machine elarnign

karmic flame
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@vapid jay who do u think is better than cs50?

obsidian trail
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just type it up

vapid jay
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corey schafer for python and other stuff

vapid jay
obsidian trail
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7oda check dm,s

obsidian trail
vapid jay
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will i get a certificate for free if i do the course on edx

obsidian trail
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maybe its from paid courses

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i think udemy gives certificate

vapid jay
obsidian trail
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i never really checked it out it was all paid and i think individuals teach there

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rather than a brand or cooperate

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modest panther
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Moved this to the appropriate channel...

Is it worth it to go back to school if I don't have a CS degree but have software engineering experience?

vapid jay
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is it web dev? ml? ... or some other

vapid jay
modest panther
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Or maybe i should get an advanced degree in machine learning? Because there are more job opportunities that can use both.

I have experience in ML and web dev

vapid jay
modest panther
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# vapid jay Ml

ummm, so rn, im learning pandas. do you think if its better to memorize some functions?

smoky quest
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or should i just have the gist of what functions exist and deal with the code part later?

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I am trying to figure out the best way to handle organizing my resume right now.

I have an LLC that I own. It is what I do all of my work through. But how do I signify that a project was contract work? Or do I even bother?
The hard part is making it all look nice.

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man it way easier to give someone else advice on this stuff. But as soon as it pertains to yourself, head just become super foggy. I guess there is also a part of being a perfectionist. And when it is someone else, I don't "care" as much.

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But it ends up creating a massive amount of white space. I don't really think it looks good that way.
(All of the wording is going to be changed, just focus on the look for now)

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Hmmm, wait, let me unfer it by one

silver jacinth
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You can do 2 spaces per indent and remove top and bottom gap

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also you should put founder first

regal axle
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This looks a little better. Yea, going to have to mess with the indent spacing

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Sub heading doesn't need a bullet point for projects

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You may want to put the title description in italics too to divide the two header fonts

regal axle
# silver jacinth also you should put founder first

I have mixed feeling with that. My top two items are founder positions (founder and then cofounder). But the type of position I would be applying to is not that. And going by the 5 second rule, I want to make sure that the positions actually read are diverse enough. But like I said, mixed feelings

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And yea, I agree with the sizing stuff. Just blocking things out right now

silver jacinth
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You should also add your country code

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Showing you're eligible for work authorization

regal axle
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Yeah, I've only reviewed and screened applicants for retail so it probably doesn't apply for remote

regal axle
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This looks a little better. But still a little hard to read / parse

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I meant "Provided..." Should be italics.

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The projects should be indented a bit and bold

regal axle
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I have not touched LaTeX in a long time. Every time I do, it takes me a minute to remember what is available to me. But yea, I see what you are saying

silver jacinth
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I've only used office

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There's an option in spacing for it, but it's easier when you make everything a table

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Instead of projects. Do projects:

regal axle
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I appreciate it. But like I said (briefly) this is just me blocking things out right now. Not worrying about the wording at all. I need to redo all of the wording.
The shape is what I care about first.

dreamy shadow
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You should be listing responsibilities and work that was done. Everything else can be explained in an interview.

regal axle
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I just hate the font

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Looks like calibre

true harness
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you know you can change the font, right

regal axle
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It is latex. Just not the default font :p

silver jacinth
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It's the default everywhere

regal axle
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Tempted to put the projects into their own sections. But then it won't be clear that they are from / part of my LLC. And the only issue with that, is that it might look strange to have overlapping things + short projects.

silver jacinth
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I have a surface for math

regal axle
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Standard? I don't think there is one?

silver jacinth
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There isn't one

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ie: Look at a template similar

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Right now yours is fine

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You just don't want to scream you used a template

regal axle
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RIght yea. But that is why I come for help. There is no example of what I am trying to do. Not a good way to make things distinct without making something else more confusing

silver jacinth
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Is it the only job you held?

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regal axle
# silver jacinth Is it the only job you held?

No it is not. The main ones are that, a different company I cofounded and sold. And then an internship. And if there is space, I have an old one line entry I did when I was in highschool. Only real reason to include that, is to show that I have been doing this for awhile

silver jacinth
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You might want to include some of those here too

regal axle
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I mean, when they are ready sure. But one thing at a time. I want to get the big thing right first.

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I am very confused. Is this considered a good resume? It has so many stars on github. But like ,,, it goes against so much that I know about resumes

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Most of it is good. The bolded bullet points are odd.

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silver jacinth
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Yeah there doesn't need to be bullet points for the jobs or education

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There's different ways to do it

modest panther
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Ebay merchant makes you look so resourceful wow

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ngl, makes you look like you know about business not just a tech geek

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Hi guys, I was looking to get some constructive criticism on my personal portfolio site.

https://muhammad-abubakar.com

I am unsure if I would need to add an experience and education section in the website. My education is just a bsc degree, and my experience is just 1 volunteer software developed for a local company and fiver I started this month with possibly 3 reviews.

Muhammad Abubakar - Full Stack Developer Portfolio

A personal portfolio website of a full stack developer

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some people get their bachelors like in their upper 20s or even after military service

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You can get it signed by Google through cloudflare. Yours rn is self signed

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It doesn't really matter, just noticed it

fast cradle
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oh ok cool, didnt know it was self signed. just curious, whats the pros and cons of signing with google?

silver jacinth
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Well anything that's not self signed looks better

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Mainly for SEO stuff but doesn't really matter

fast cradle
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cool

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Well, really orchestrated in particular.

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I know it's not outrageous, but they're filler words, and if rest of document follows suit, I'm expected lots of various words like that.

gaunt yarrow
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Anyone here from New Zealand?

regal axle
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Auckland?

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Hi All, we have technology careers week from 22/07/24 to 2/08/24, if you're a software developer/database/engineer/or any other tech related specialist, we'd be keen to have you come talk at Lynfield College. My students are still raving about how cool the last speakers were from last year so you'd definitely have an impact on the next generation. Private message me or chat here if you're interested.

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Beautiful is better than ugly.
Explicit is better than implicit.
Simple is better than complex.
Complex is better than complicated.
Flat is better than nested.
Sparse is better than dense.
Readability counts.
Special cases aren't special enough to break the rules.
Although practicality beats purity.
Errors should never pass silently.
Unless explicitly silenced.
In the face of ambiguity, refuse the temptation to guess.
There should be one-- and preferably only one --obvious way to do it.
Although that way may not be obvious at first unless you're Dutch.
Now is better than never.
Although never is often better than right now.
If the implementation is hard to explain, it's a bad idea.
If the implementation is easy to explain, it may be a good idea.
Namespaces are one honking great idea -- let's do more of those!

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Wrong chat sorry

cerulean basin
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Hi there! I trying to find internship for this summer in the domain of data science, Machine Learning and MLOps.
I have good grip in this domain and have made some end to end projects too

its been like month i am trying to grab one but couldnt land any can anyone help me?

faint igloo
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I see people reviewing resume here, is it okay for me to do so too?

near ocean
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yes, post a screenshot of your resume with identifying details removed

faint igloo
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Okay

strange pumice
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Need advise.

pine sleet
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We give advise.

strange pumice
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So for background check. They asked for my education history

Now I'm confused should I put in my University history AND grade school History?

Or Just my college history is good( I transferred to a different school in junior year)

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Everything from Kindergarten to College?

pine sleet
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college is fine. assuming "grade school" is similar to high school in the U.S, they shouldn't care

strange pumice
pine sleet
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yeah that's irrelavent

true harness
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though it does depend what kind of background check

strange pumice
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The form seemed vague.

And the search list included High schools as well.

I suppose it accommodates those without a degree but got the offer

fringe sphinx
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If I were asked, I'd list college only (unless they indicated otherwise). They usually also ask for places of residence for last X years

fringe sphinx
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Post

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Yah, so it's a criminal check/etc

strange pumice
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Pre hiring process

fringe sphinx
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Yah, I wouldn't stress it. If you over share, they really won't care

strange pumice
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No way I'm over sharing. I was forced to over share the addresses I've resided since I was born.

๐Ÿ˜ฆ

fringe sphinx
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You might've been a bank robber when you were 5 yrs old.

strange pumice
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Discord mobile app isn't smooth.

true hatch
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Do game devs make a lot of money?

peak halo
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strange pumice
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Lots of loads and pressure I presume

true hatch
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Making games sounds cool, I can also go independent in the future

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What developer career is the best?

peak halo
true hatch
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Which one is best for money, and which one is best for working conditions?

peak halo
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Game development has a reputation for having universally bad working conditions.

Other than that, it depends more in the company than the domain.

fringe sphinx
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Im making one rn

fringe sphinx
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Great!

true hatch
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on scratch :p

fringe sphinx
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That's great. Scratch is a good intro.

true hatch
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oh kk

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brazen island
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When companies post they pay "XX K" is that a marketing scheme to get in applicants or is that really something they do

silver jacinth
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depends on role too. "Game dev" is a massively encompassing category

silver jacinth
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If they don't disclose salary then it's illegal in most places (if you're referring to a contract where they say x vs not saying anything in an interview). That means they're most likely going to pay you less if you don't ask too

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So if they say x upfront, then you can take it or leave it. But they won't negotiate

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Here it's not a thing, hence why I was surprised

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nice, hope you get it

safe coral
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Turns out one page resumes are no longer good. On LinkedIn this person is getting 4-5 interviews a week with this resume

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i mean , i dont think companies would care about the two page resume if you have 15+ years of experience and worked as Senior PM on previous 2 jobs with MBA from reputed university
Also , 2 page is not "too much"

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brazen island
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Did they give any feedback?

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... Jesus

white relic
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Depends on the type of role and country. The CV is more used in academia and Europe

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5 pages def sounds like a CV over a rรฉsumรฉ

smoky quest
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5 pages though?

smoky quest
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Having had to apply in both USA and EU, for swe jobs, it's simpler to assume CV = resume

smoky quest
white relic
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Not questioning the person with the 5 page rรฉsumรฉ, more the context we are lacking here

smoky quest
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I still see 5 pages resumes with cert stamps all over the place. Experience is not a guarantee of quality.

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the one page advice for new grads is to force them to think through their communication because they have no clue what they are doing

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Once someone has a few years of xp, it's normal to cross that second page

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Also ego can come into play too. Which also correlates with large resumes

white relic
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We're talking someone at 6 pages not 2

smoky quest
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I would assume her first 2-3 pages are strong enough to carry her

faint igloo
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Hello, I would appreciate if someone can review my resume and give feedback. Thanks!

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brazen island
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I squeeze my CV into 1 page tbh

smoky quest
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I would nuance it more. It depends on whose attention it gets and it's neither you have no call backs or it's perfect. Often times it's a gradient

brazen island
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But it didn't even matter, the guy I messaged put me on the fast track without even asking for a resume or whatever ๐Ÿ˜ญ

smoky quest
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I am multiple pages

faint igloo
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I'm quite comfortable with coding, and know the basic data structures (including queues and stacks) very well and know the theory behind trees and dynamic programming

What should I do to understand the different types of problems on Leetcode and be able to solve Leetcode medium questions quickly? I think I also need to know how to write optimized solutions for Leetcode easy questions, although I am able to write brute-forced solutions for them. I only need to understand the logic I think, writing the code shouldn't be a problem

I'm in my third year in CS but interviews here usually ask coding questions as a way to select candidates

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Completed my first year. scratched python and java from the surface and maintained a decent cgpa. I see people around me looking for internships and stuff. I have no clue where and how to begin to find a relevant one. Right now I have a summer break so it's a great opportunity to manage studies and think about this stuff too. Any guidance and tips would be appreciated. I am trying to brush my python skills up more by finishing coursera specialization course on python. But I don't have a clue like what to do so it can help me land a good internship

brazen island
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So many places that used to do take homes and leetcode here scrapped them

vapid jay
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I'm not trying to memorize leetcode, like I said I'm quite comfortable with basic data structures and can understand approaches clearly. I just don't know how optimized approaches for certain problems, and have a lack of time - so I just need something that quickly covers various approaches and types of problems

smoky quest
brazen island
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The process always looked like:

HR screen - tech interview with seniors - hiring manager - final HR convo (about comp)

Sometimes the last two switched

faint igloo
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Okay

smoky quest
# faint igloo done

Great!
So let's recap:

  • Move your education to the top of your first place and add dates and school
  • Page 2 - Projects. Throwing random keywords doesn't mean anything
  • Last part of page 2 should be more about skills than projects
  • Page 1 experiences:
    *Participating in daily meetings and reporting to an AI leader does not demonstrate any skill and does not make you look strong. So remove it.
    *Try to explain a bit more what are your internships/projects about, what you did and their impact. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Situation,_task,_action,_result as it may help
  • Show, don't tell. Stating you completed all the tasks within designated timeline doesn't tell me anything about said tasks and their complexity

In short, try to see the interviewer as someone you want to geek with about your projects. So make them want to ask you questions about how cool they were

vapid jay
# smoky quest Having to memorize leetcode is not only the worst way to approach it but also de...

I'm not trying to memorize it though, we had a course in DSA and Algorithm Design already. Lemme give an example: IIRC there was a problem that requires you to get maximum sum of a subsequence in an array - there's a trick to it if you just keep a total sum tally. Once I read some solution using the optimum approach - I can understand why they used that and it's an approach I wouldn't forget. (Just an example, I wouldn't brute-force this.)

This is why I'm just looking for some type of course/whatever that walks through various solutions and their ideal approaches.

It's not that I can't formulate optimum approaches at all I know when to use hashmaps etc.

smoky quest
# faint igloo done

Another way to help you think how reviewer look at your resume:
Each job receives thousands of applications. So it's like if everyone in your class and school had applied to the same jobs than you. The interviewer only has time to talk to the top 5-10 folks. So why would they call you? How would your projects and experiences help you stand out?

smoky quest
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I know that because that book always sits somewhere on my desk ๐Ÿ˜‰

vapid jay
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I know, it was a part of my uni course too. My point being I'm more comfortable with coding than most of my peers and can understand new solutions quickly, I want something more consise than a book

smoky quest
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The most concise action you could undertake is to learn DSA. Everything else will just take more effort and more time trying to get around it

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It's like trying to memorize all the possible combinations of adding two numbers VS learning about the addition

vapid jay
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I don't not want to learn DSA - that's the main goal. But books are just too lengthy, these interviews aren't expecting much from us. Just need something that is targetted more towards people w/ intermediate knowledge - or is your recommendation for me to just start reading from the point I'm not comfortable onwards? My main concern being that I have 2 months left

smoky quest
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Skip the parts that are familiar to you.
You can use that book as a reference too

smoky quest
vapid jay
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Oki, thanks

faint igloo
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Thank you for your advice. I will try to follow your suggestions and will let you know once I have made the improvements

smoky quest
# vapid jay Oki, thanks

There are also books like cracking the coding interview that could be interesting, but I would use them for fine tuning, not getting leetcode ready.

Overall 2 months is plenty of time.

Also always start with companies you don't care about. There are many things you haven't experienced about interviews yet and everyone fail their first few interviews. So always start with companies you don't care about and do not put your ego into it. Use the failures to learn from them

smoky quest
vapid jay
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# vapid jay Oki, thanks

Oh and not passing an interview does not necessarily mean you failed.
Sometimes someone had a bad day or you/company weren't meant to be a good match. And that's okay.

smoky quest
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It's a bit like defining porn: you know when you see it.
It's a combination of having enough interesting things you MUST show and not being able to fit them all in a single page anymore

faint igloo
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Thanks

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well, that pretty obvious recurisve

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why would you resume be on 2 pages or 2 sided and youre keep wallowing in self-pleasure

smoky quest
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sometimes tailoring more can also help shed some extra info.
But in the end, after 3 years of experience, you should have enough xp to make that judgement call in terms of transitioning to 2 pages, fully aware of the trade offs

vapid jay
solemn bone
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why would you refer to irl merit as xp? sounds like someone is too engrossed in video games and is out of tocuh with reality, emabrassing and patehtic

smoky quest
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solemn bone
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that's not shitposting, in terms of the resumme DM me and Ill teach you a little about formatting

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youll land the job trust me, just DM me

smoky quest
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you can also put stuff on the second page you consider bonus. Like if they read it great, but if they don't, that won't make you miss an opportunity

solemn bone
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typically they want to see you were involed in a leadership opporunity of sorts

smoky quest
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still super important

near ocean
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Sigh <@&831776746206265384>

solemn bone
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for educaiton include your educational background, starting with your most recent degree/certification

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just make sure this "hands on experience" isnt redundant

smoky quest
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Having the two would make you stronger, especially for roles that would benefit from it. Going back a point from earlier, it's a gradient ๐Ÿ™‚

solemn bone
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well, we dont even know what he's applying for but the point stil stands, good advice recursive

brazen island
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How do you guys feel about (pre-) sales engineer / strategy roles?

It's not something I'd do but I'm just curious how you feel about it / what growth there is in it.

faint igloo
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Hello everyone recently I started to learn python, I want to be consistent, it would be great is I find someone to learn together with if anyone interested to be my coding buddy or my mentor do respond I am waiting ๐Ÿ˜‰

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If it demonstrates relevant skills that you aren't already demonstrating in better ways, then sure

white relic
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person of color?
point of contact?

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pithink person of color is an interesting presumption

white relic
umbral frigate
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Add some โœจ diversity โœจ to the resume lol.

white relic
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from a SWE perspective, how is that different from just "a project"
Would you ask "is it worth it to include a project on a resume?"

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(certainly, it depends on the project)

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so... why would it being a "proof of concept" make it invalid or useless for your rรฉsumรฉ?

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if you made the same thing but called it a personal project instead of a PoC, would it be worth including?

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or just a work assignment for that matter

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from a certain perspective, 90% of my work product for the last 11 years has been "proof of concept"

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I agree with dowcet, the important thing is not what you call it but whether it demonstrates relevant skills

white relic
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All else being equal, it's better to have impactful projects than not

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but that's just one aspect to evaluate them on

brazen island
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Going on Tuesday to the office of $prosectiveFutureEmployer ๐Ÿ‘€

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Happy it's scheduled, hope I can get it over with then and there

white relic
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Does it demonstrate skills that you want to highlight? Does it demonstrate those skills better than other projects that you might be considering including?

gritty rivet
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Could be extremely relevant or totally irrelevant... Depends on the role and what else is on your resume

heavy spade
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Can anyone teach me python
I am new to the language

faint igloo
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obsidian trail
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does someone know the difference between computer science and software engineering?

peak halo
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what kind of algorithms please elaborate on that

sharp lark
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Are you interested to learn it with me @heavy spade

gritty rivet
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heavy spade
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Ok๐Ÿ‘

obsidian trail
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What do I look for ?

gritty rivet
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Sorry, but please delete and read the rules

sharp lark
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Ok sorry. I'll delete this message

gritty rivet
# obsidian trail What do I look for ?

Lots of things but for example you can look at what courses they require. And you can look around on LinkedIn to see what kind of work graduates from each program are doing

brazen island
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Thanks. It should go well. The only issue is if there's space because I'm already really late. Maybe also a consideration for you as well if you're still looking for roles in Europe

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They start hiring in Feb/Mar for September

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Idk about abroad but that's definitely a phenomenon here. Hiring starts very early unless you're a very senior profile, then you could more easily join outside of the standard onboarding cycles

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I think this is actually a good thing, you can onboard everyone together

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That's true tho

faint igloo
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Me too, I've been looking for a job for 6 months and feel tired because I often fail during tests, especially in psychological Test and Coding Test

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That's right. To work there you need to be proficient in the local language and most importantly, have a work permit or residency

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Ah i see. It's good to learn about these considerations. Language and relocation logistics both seem like important factors to navigate when looking for opportunities abroad especially in EU.

cerulean basin
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Yea, you can do it..keep going!

cerulean basin
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alright alright ill change it

fringe sphinx
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Make sure your grammar is consistent, "End to End" and then "end-to-end", for instance.

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As a ChemE major, what kind of job are you looking for?

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Technical Skills has a lot of things that I'm sure you're not expert at (as a first year Uni major): this dilutes what you're actually good at.

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Phrases like "Developed production grade end-to-end Data Science project" tell me nothing and don't add value.

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Similar to "along with many other features from their discord", a little too casual for a resume.

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And typo's like "expotentially"... run this through grammarly or similar.

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No one cares that you can use windows

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No one cares that you can use Latex

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You know entire AWS and GCP?

cerulean basin
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yeap working on it

vapid jay
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Most probably people are ignoring your resume because of so much fluff

supple cairn
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I've just been invited to a job interview with a job that desires python. How do I learn this real quick?

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Python would be "an advantage" they say

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Thank you. Is that like VSCode?

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Ah cool, so this could be used in a commercial setting with two collaborating employees? Is this something likely in a Data Analyst role?

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So it's kinda like a mix of a collaborative IDE and notes/word processor app?

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Ah I could see some applicability in a Data Analyst role then. I could use it for an API connector/web scraper/data transformer/regex generator and it'll be an executable object within the report?

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I probably wouldn't want to develop inside it, but putting code snippets in there could be okay.

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coolcoolcool I'll spend some time in this before the interview.

For "training models" do you mean ML/AI?

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Maybe not going to be relevant? It's a data analyst job.

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Python isn't even required, it's just desireable. I just think it can give me an edge. I've been playing around with it a bit in VSCode and Github.

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Very cool. I think I'll be using Power BI for most of that. What ways is Python going to be better than Power BI for working with data?

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My line manager told me I'm not allowed to use Python/Powershell/SQL/VBA despite having all those technologies installed on my work laptop. That's why I'm looking for another job.

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What do you think about my final resume

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@turbid bobcat

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My manager says I can't use Python and must use some random proprietary app I've never heard of, because my python code will be too bespoke and they worry about what they'll do when I leave the business. I'm even struggling to get adoption of my regex instead of normal keyword matching.

safe coral
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Thanks!

supple cairn
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Yeah I know right. Python and regex are pretty standard, right? Yet my line manager told me that they are afraid of getting stuck with them and want to go with proprietary apps for everything. Except the problem is, the process is long, and the expensive proprietary app she wants can only do one part of it. It's just an incredibly luddist workplace.

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I'd argue so, yeah. There's millions of people who know python, but very few people who know about this particular app she's so interested in. It's also expensive and inflexible.

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I think this is just the difference in attitudes between codes and non-coders. Non-coders want a couple of apps with GUIs to do everything, and they'll cram the process to fit the app.

What I'd prefer to do instead, is look at the process, and build the app to complete functions which we don't/can't get a pre-built app for, or even just do the whole thing.

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I've been humouring my line manager with her decision, waiting for the realisation that her plan isn't going to work. Annoyingly, she's taking so fucking long to fail, I just CBA waiting any longer, and I'm looking for another job which values my creativity.

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She tells me "you're no longer allowed to use any scripting" so I said to her "should I delete all the VBA in our Excel workbooks then?" and she said "no, it's too useful" lol. We also agreed we need a new database, but IDK how the hell we're going to do that without SQL. I bet she's going to look for some proprietary system which our tables won't even be compatible with.

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Sorry, I'm getting into a bit of a moan here. I should focus on preparing for my job interview.

brazen island
white relic
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Hi, advertising is not allowed here.

supple cairn
# brazen island This is a legit concern imo but they're exaggerating

I agree. I think they should meet me in the middle and compromise on:

  • I could do Powershell instead of python (they don't even like powershell for some reason
  • I could try to make the code as pythonic, well-commented and well-documented as possible
  • We could use git
  • They could just add python to my job role and replace me with another person with python in their skillset later
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In my Python utopia, our team will shrink from 5 to 2. Myself and one other person who does my grunt-work.

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I actually almost made my co-worker's job redundant whilst she was on maternity leave. I had her manual processes dumped on me, which I mostly automated with Powershell. I just needed a server to install it on to get better performance and reliability, and to share with my team. Unfortunately, my line manager and my IT department were too slow/uncooperative, she came back, and took the process over again.

modest panther
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Any1 know what a "token" is in chatgpt api pricing?

gritty rivet
modest panther
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oh im silly i can simply ask chat gpt that question lmao

silver jacinth
modest panther
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apparently chatgpt said that its every word broken by spaces regardless of length and input and output combined

silver jacinth
silver jacinth
modest panther
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so if you have 10k resumes you submit with 100 words each and you want it to return 1 classification word, it costs 10k*100 input + 10k output = 1,000,000 + 10000 = 1,010,000 ~6 bucks at 5 dollars per million

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yeah llama is a great idea for real.. Local llama is GREAT if it is smart enough for your app

The future is amazing holy smokes ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

silver jacinth
modest panther
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the output is supervised for everyone using it rn, so we dont trust it but we are depending on it too much

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i thought i was in the python-discussion channel sry

silver jacinth
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I won't recommend code-llama since its too old and llama3 performs better

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modest panther
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is llama to sagemaker a good experience for future jobs?

silver jacinth
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you could try developing a tool to integrate with sagemaker

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but you shouldn't bother training these models as it is expensive and a ton of knowledge. Just leave the heavy lifting to them

supple cairn
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Even ChatGPT agrees with me that I should be using python

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IDK why I have free reign using Excel formulas but I'm not allowed to use Python.

digital fjord
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Because Python is a vastly less common skill than Excel

brazen island
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I've seen variations of this argument used to create monstrously complex solutions only the author understands.

This also applies with going wild with excel macros though.

supple cairn
fringe sphinx
supple cairn
fringe sphinx
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Not sure what you mean by "generating regex"?

supple cairn
smoky quest
# supple cairn IDK why I have free reign using Excel formulas but I'm not allowed to use Python...

There is a lot to unpack here.
Your manager is not wrong, but as usual, the truth resides somewhat in the middle.
What you are currently proposing, at least as stated in this channel, would be viewed too much as YOLO and does not considers how it fits in the company.
Having 1-2 engineers working on some script is great but your manager would need far more to be able to justify that and ensure this is sustainable and healthy over the long term. I assume the proprietary tool your manager is pushing for is something no-code so that it's easier to maintain for the current employees.
And so if you think your manager is open minded enough, I would suggest to prepare a comprehensive plan.

For instance your code will need to live somewhere, be deployed somewhere, etc.
The deployment of your code needs to also be thought out. Who will keep the box up to date? How do you test your code? How do you even know it's actually running and without issues?

There is also a framing component to it. Telling your manager they can let go of most people is not great. It's far more effective to frame it around how much more the team can do and how they can focus on the interesting tasks rather than the mundane ones that can be automated

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And so in terms of staffing, maybe you need more than just 2 engineers to code. Maybe you will need someone with cloud skills so you do not rely on the IT team.
And you may also want to consider the security and data processing aspects if you manipulate customer data. You would not want to incur any security incident

supple cairn
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"how they can focus on the interesting tasks" yeah she always says this but never brings in any automation.

smoky quest
supple cairn
# fringe sphinx Not sure what you mean by "generating regex"?

`import re

def create_regex_pattern(keywords):
pattern_parts = []
for keyword in keywords:
# Escape special regex characters in the keyword
escaped_keyword = re.escape(keyword)

    # Create alternatives for the keyword
    alternatives = [
        r"(?:\b" + escaped_keyword + r"\b)",  # Exact match with word boundaries
        r"(?:\b" + escaped_keyword.replace(" ", r"\s*") + r"\b)",  # With optional spaces and word boundaries
        r"(?:" + escaped_keyword + r")",  # Without word boundaries
        r"(?:" + escaped_keyword.replace(" ", r"\s*") + r")"  # With optional spaces, without word boundaries
    ]

    # Add alternatives with optional punctuation
    punctuation_pattern = r"(?:[^\w\s]|_)?"
    alternatives = [punctuation_pattern + alt + punctuation_pattern for alt in alternatives]

    # Add case-insensitive flag
    alternatives = [r"(?i:" + alt + r")" for alt in alternatives]

    # Add alternatives to the pattern
    pattern_parts.append("|".join(alternatives))

# Join all pattern parts with '|' to create the final pattern
pattern = "|".join(pattern_parts)

return pattern

def main():
print("Enter keywords (one per line, or 'q' to quit):")
keywords = []
while True:
keyword = input("> ")
if keyword.lower() == 'q':
break
keywords.append(keyword)

if not keywords:
    print("No keywords provided.")
    return

pattern = create_regex_pattern(keywords)
print(f"\nRegular expression pattern: {pattern}")

if name == "main":
main()`

Something like that. Did a quick chatgpt prompt to show what I mean.

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So she's looking at this search software. I don't think it imports CSVs or does any fuzzy searching or anything, but it does support regex. so I thought I could just generate regex from fields in the table.

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It's not even really search software, it's file server analysis software, except she wants to do searches and not analysis.

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But now she says she's unsure about regex ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ

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I use regex a lot in various projects, so I can do some pretty good matching with it. I just want to build a regex dynamically based on some input data

smoky quest
supple cairn
smoky quest
supple cairn
smoky quest
supple cairn
#

I gave her a list of search apps and she ignored it and chose a non search app for some reason

fringe sphinx
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(and does this have anything to do with careers?)

supple cairn
fringe sphinx
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Ok, what's wrong with asking a question about regexs?

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Seems fair game for a SWE interview

supple cairn
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I only build apps in my free time on github for media automation.

fringe sphinx
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I guess I'm just confused by the thread. It's totally normal for shops to standardize on a particular stack... whether it's Excel or Python. It often doesn't make sense to introduce Python into a team that is 100% Excel.

smoky quest
supple cairn
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They kept telling me to stop doing VBA. So I said I'll do powrshell or python and then they say no

fringe sphinx
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And you're doing the right thing by saying: "Oh, then I guess i'll go somewhere else". Totally reasonable.

supple cairn
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Power bi supports python scripting, but I'm not allowed to use it. ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ

fringe sphinx
supple cairn
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Python is so simple and human readable. Idk why people don't like it.

fringe sphinx
#

wild wild west

smoky quest
smoky quest
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It's like if someone tell you "let's move to Brazil! It's so nice there!". But you have to figure out the visa and then you have a house, a job,a car, family, a cat or what not to think about

supple cairn
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Thanks guys. Going for 8k now. Will be back a bit later.

pastel thunder
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I dont understand how some people say they work3-4 hour in job
My senior micromanage so much, they want 6-8 hour of update, and also say it outright when they think the work wasnt worth as much time as I said I have put

fringe sphinx
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Some people are bad managers

pastel thunder
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I am asking because I have heard majority of people say they work 4 hour

fringe sphinx
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What they're saying is: in 8 hours, they might only feel truly productive for half of that

pastel thunder
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could be true, but some make me feel like I am the one who is too slow, they talk about how they do DSA etc in job time lol

fringe sphinx
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Like I said, some people are just bad managers ๐Ÿ™‚

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If your senior is talking about DSA, then I assume your senior is also a junior

pastel thunder
fringe sphinx
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A bit of it is learning to play the game. Closing out tickets/etc, not only working on big tasks

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People like measurable progress. Commits, tickets, comments, etc make your work visible.

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But I've also seen juniors who were genuinely struggling; didn't know how to start a problem, decompose a problem, when to seek help, how to learn a code base, etc

pastel thunder
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yes, but my colleagues are too smart to give me a chance to do that,
plus manager himself delegates tasks

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recently my relationship with manager has been pretty bad( not just me but all 3 along with me, who have recently joined)
He kinda targets us in everything

fringe sphinx
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To me, I'd dig in, work hard (extra if needed) and make sure I master the topic. If it takes 16 hours or 4 hours, I'll get it done.

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I generally ended becoming "expert" at whatever topic, which is a good way to get a manager off your back

pastel thunder
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I have thought about it, and tried that for one month,
but in performance review he gave very poor score stating, that 1 of the 4 week was not upto the mark
I figured he is not the type of person to motivate once has been disappointed.

and now I dont think I am NOT being paid enough to put in as much effort as he want me to put in

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and was already disappointed from the start when I was give backend instead of Data science.

fringe sphinx
#

Most people don't know when they're the problem.

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(Not saying you are, but consider that -that- might also be true)

pastel thunder
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partially, I think now, I might be a problem, but because he also target 3 other peer who joined the team with me,
plus I can see they put in a lot of effort, I think I am not the only problem here

fringe sphinx
#

I'll just repeat: some ppl are just bad managers ๐Ÿ™‚

pastel thunder
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haha

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i wanted to vent a little

fleet reef
cerulean basin
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Hi I made some changes in my resume based on the suggestions, can i do any more improvements?

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supple cairn
#

Does anyone not have Bash on their CV?

near ocean
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I dont think theres a need? Especially if you mention you work with linux/wsl, what else are you supposed to use

smoky quest
#

Hi!
It's not a meme dump channel

clever quail
#

@smoky quest he is say something very important of the Recursion error code ๏ผŒ my friend๏ผ

fringe sphinx
supple cairn
fringe sphinx
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Secondly; big list means - you can't possibly be really knowledgeable at all these things. What you're probably saying is; 'I used this thing once'

supple cairn
fringe sphinx
#

In reality, I'm more impressed by a entry resume that doesn't exaggerate, that shows that you've actually coded and worked on projects, and perhaps have worked with one tech multiple times (depth)

hearty island
#

2 interviews next week ๐Ÿ™‚, FINRA and NYPA

balmy mural
vapid jay
#

LIE ON YOUR RESUME. I lied on my resume and got a great offer as a business analyst for a company

balmy spade
fleet reef
balmy spade
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Not lying on a resume.

vapid jay
true harness
#

this person comes back every so often to say the same thing

fringe sphinx
gritty rivet
#

Maybe it works for business analysts because all half of them do is BS anyway ๐Ÿคฃ

I've seen more than one resume/interview liar get fired at different places I've worked in the last few years.

vapid jay
fringe sphinx
supple cairn
#

Although I think I might have failed to put it on my CV actually. No matter, there's still an opportunity to lie during the interview

faint igloo
#

Halo, I have revised my CV and it is now one page long. May i ask for your feedback?

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fringe sphinx
true harness
#

maybe they know and that's why they don't want you to use python ๐Ÿ•ต๏ธ

fringe sphinx
fringe sphinx
#

There's some grammar that can be cleaned up in a few of the bullets, like the "Implemented SQL techniques ..." bullet or "Focus of this level..."

faint igloo
fringe sphinx
#

For example: "Developed, maintained and tested APIs to ensure smooth integration and performance across projects" isn't bad, it just doesn't tell me much, other than you write test cases. Using what? Pytest? How did you ensure performance & integration, etc?

safe coral
#

@fringe sphinx What do you think about my resume

faint igloo
safe coral
fringe sphinx
safe coral
#

okay ๐Ÿ˜„

faint igloo
brittle ember
#

If a company asks, 'Can you describe a time when you had to perform repetitive tasks for an extended period? How did you manage to stay focused and motivated?' for the job for customer support in tech, is it wise to mention that I used automation?

brittle ember
#

Also, can I mention that I used ChatGPT for the parts where I got stuck?

balmy spade
#

The question isn't "How did you simplify repetitive tasks". The question is opening a discussion to gauge how you manage yourself to stay on task over an entire shift.

brittle ember
brittle ember
balmy spade
#

A question like this coming up at an interview suggests to me that the job will be heavily process driven at times. So for customer support I'd think tickets containing manual tasks that aren't difficult but are boring. Probably in-between calls/chat or on rotating days from live support (all guesses)

If I was the interviewer, I'd be looking for an answer that speaks to your ability to find the fun or challenge in repetitive tasks. You could even weave in the drive to find ways to reduce the work, enhancing the efficiency, with automation. Just make sure the task at had is always the priority.

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If I were given this question I'd have plenty of example from retail of dull, boring, and absolutely sluggish tasks. From ringing sales to stocking shelves. Same thing, different day. It was always a joy for me, though, to engage with the next customer. Making sure they had a reason to smile when leaving the store. If i was stocking there was always that little extra I could do while on the floor. Helping customers, finding extra low-stocks to fill on my next round, and such.

But I have a ton of years to draw from. If I was fresh from school, I'd use school as that example.

brittle ember
brittle ember
lusty phoenix
#

whoa Python is acc crazy

brittle ember
balmy spade
brittle ember
balmy spade
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I don't know about anyone else but when in an interview like that I usually twisted my answers to address needs of company interviewing me. I'd talk about past experience and then answer in how I'd apply it for the job I wanted. pithink I should do some interviews again. Been a weird while since I did.

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Something about interviews... they are an interesting challenge.

brittle ember
#

Great insights and pointer @balmy spade. Thanks again mate

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When applying for customer support jobs in the tech field, what qualities and skills do companies typically seek in candidates? From a general perspective, what are their expectations for candidates in these roles? There must be specific qualities or skills that are universally expected in any customer support position within the tech industry.

balmy spade
#

Communication, first and usually foremost of any skill. Other skills I'd look for are just some good signs that you don't mind working, can apply yourself to a task, and dont' completely freeze in the face of an unknown situation.

gray nymph
#

This is what I am talking about

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It seems like a good place to start

hazy steeple
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hey, i'm learning python and can someone suggest me what i have to learn or read to get a first job

cobalt moat
split wasp
smoky quest
hazy steeple
hazy steeple
cobalt moat
hazy steeple
cobalt moat
true harness
#

yikes

buoyant seal
robust citrus
#

"toxic workplaces" I was gonna say something about the percentage of techies doing remote work but like i mean he has a point anyways <@&831776746206265384> link post

inner wrenBOT
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leaden jasper
#

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inner wrenBOT
#

:incoming_envelope: :ok_hand: applied warning to @dusky badger.

vapid jay
#

Hello I need some advice/ help.

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I have not completed my Bachelors of Computer Science yet. I have roughly 2 years left.

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I am working Full time as a Data Engineer/ Software Engineer at a startup and have gained a number of experience.

buoyant seal
# hazy steeple hey, i'm learning python and can someone suggest me what i have to learn or rea...

A good start will be getting CS degree education as mentioned.
Otherwise u could help yourself by learning what is programming in self studies in addition.
https://darklab8.github.io/blog/favourite.html#CodeCompleteAPracticalHandbookofSoftwareConstruction
Code Complete is really great book teaching majority of aspects how to do better.

ะบะฐะฑะฐะฝะพะบ โ€” Today at 6:55 AM
what type of personal projects i can do, like a bot or what?

Discord bot is a good start.
Otherwise in my opinion best pet projects are smth that u need for every day usage, CLI instruments or developer tools.
Or helping to gaming (or any other) communities by developing stuff they actually need for usage. (Like i just develop player tools for community around space simulator)
Optionally it could be as fun as Minecraft Modding and etc

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If the project has real life usage (not an imaginary one business like project)
Than it can be evolving with your through dozen of years
As it encounters feedback from users, encouraging you to add new features and etc

undone glacier
#

Does this JD look like it offers anything for a freshie or someone looking for experience? How long max should I stay

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smoky quest
undone glacier
split wasp
supple cairn
brittle ember
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Please provide your suggestions.

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This is my previous resume

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I was about to tag you @turbid bobcat

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So in education shall I keep my college name in bold or degree name in bold?

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So which will have small font in education? college name or degree?

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Wouldn't "split the project descriptions into bullet points" increase the length of resume too much?

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Also by skills section suggestion, do you mean this format Skills: Python, Javascript, C, Selenium, OpenCV, Flask, SQLite, MySQL, MongoDB, Git, Docker, AWS, Arduino, VSCode, Windows, Linux

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The education section has reduced a lot

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You really are Lisan Al Gayib for me ๐Ÿ˜‡

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Shall I add prompt engineering and usage of chatgpt in skills or in experience

brittle ember
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But what from the customer support job point of view?

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I agree. Many companies are discouraging the use of chatgpt for code correction or completion due to privacy issues

cerulean basin
#

ah lemme check

brittle ember
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As you suggested earlier, I'm trying to create two resumes. One for sde and other for customer support. I could use your work experience in Customer support to improve my chances of getting hired.

brittle ember
#

What is the expected salary range for the current scenario and considering my resume?

woeful vapor
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nah this is dumb

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pride stuff is messed up, not natural goes against nature and god

brittle ember
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Yes. As you suggested I'm also trying to go for SDE jobs. I need to practice more of Algorithms as these projects I did were simple projects without making use of algos

static bone
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if I worked like few months on few months off during a period of 3-4 years lets say, wouldnt it be better to put the period and directly insert the places (all being from the same field, unrelated to IT) rather than to put them all separately? lets say as an example a guy who worked as an uber driver, bolt driver and regular taxi driver during a span of 3-4 years, isnt it better if he puts the role the period and insert all those places he worked at? instead of doing them separately?

brittle ember
#

This is how it looks now

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static bone
#

does it worth to put coursera certifications in the cv?

brittle ember
#

Shall I comma separate the certs?

cerulean basin
#

what font u using?

brittle ember
#

To be honest @turbid bobcat, I feel confident now with new resume. Will add the links to projects now

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brittle ember
sour iron
# brittle ember To be honest <@935270247366271027>, I feel confident now with new resume. Will a...

If I may add something to better the visual appearance: seeing you still have some white space at the bottom, you can use one or more remedies out of the following:

  1. Add some margin at the top in case you haven't already. Maybe, you have cut off the white space from the top in the screenshots you're sending. But if this is actually how your resume will appear, then your name is too close to the top edge of paper. So maybe you can add some top margin.
  2. Add some spacing after the rules in your sections. (about 60% of the space you have before each section.) Right now, the content after section rulers is sticking a lot to it. So it could be better...
  3. Add some space after each project, so these are separated a bit.
brittle ember
sour iron
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๐Ÿ‘Œ

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Which software do you use? MS Word?

brittle ember
brittle ember
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Yes

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This is it. Im working to start words as you mentioned @turbid bobcat. Also added space between project and at top and bottom @sour iron

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cerulean basin
#

how can i implement the 4th point in my resume

brittle ember
#

Its lovely

pastel thunder
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so If I am interviewing at a place I know give a high ctc.
Should I say I negotiating with company x, and expecting between x-y from them?
I think I just tell my ctc is z, they will likely low ball me

brittle ember
#

All the best buddy. May you succeed in your endeavor

gritty rivet
balmy mural
#

Ask for as much as you think you can without them just immediately dropping the interviewing process with you. Know what your actual minimum is that you'd take the job for. They'll likely offer somewhere below what you asked, try to negotiate it up if you think you have leverage to do that and it's already above your actual minimum

cerulean basin
#

@turbid bobcat hi i made the changes which u suggested, also added some of my engagements!

can you suggest any further changes, Thanks a lot in advance u already helped me a lot

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gritty rivet
cerulean basin
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nopes im actually trying to find a internship to gain a employment history

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i know, but im applying for data science ML MLOps based internship so, i put the relevant projects on top, should i change it

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ah! ill make changes

cerulean basin
#

alright alright

chrome nacelle
#

I recently finished my class 12th any suggestions What should I do after 12th class ?

vapid jay
#

He is trying to milk his IIT degree to impress the recruiter. It is a valid strategy in India

fringe sphinx
chrome nacelle
#

India

vapid jay
#

This is the last time in your life you will have no responsibilities

fringe sphinx
#

At this point, you might as well figure out how to monetize resume sending.

safe coral
#

Hiiiii @turbid bobcat

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Hi @fringe sphinx thank you guys for helping me with my resume

hearty island
#

oh wow
my ex's dad
he's in compliance at galaxy
this could be an in

#

does this mean i might have to talk to my ex

dapper bane
#

Damn man working at the internship becoming quite tough I am getting difficult ass tasks

#

The boss is non technical too

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I have added anti root protection to the app and am making apis, frontend and stuff

balmy mural
dapper bane
dapper bane
#

I have only 4 months of xp

#

on paper

#

I need more experience to apply on better jobs

balmy mural
#

You're an intern. You communicate that you don't know how to do the task and in an ideal world, someone might sit with you and work through the issue. Or someone else might pick it up and you get something else to work on

dapper bane
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I have done all the tasks they told me

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I build anti root in their app too

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I found ssh bruteforce attack vuln too in their prod api and vuln in their nginx version which I patched

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I did an bruteforce attack live screen share to prove my point

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I want the boss to assign me time to pentest payment apis but he just makes me work on the general stuff it is my first time doing it I don't feel confident but wanna do it

fringe sphinx
#

When in doubt, a rubber ducky makes a good conversation partner.

dapper bane
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I feel unsatisfied and I want to work on better technologies in more better companies

pastel thunder
fringe sphinx
dapper bane
#

I am just waiting for my experience to become 1-2 year

silver jacinth
#

Just use the GitHub LinkedIn scrapping bots

fringe sphinx
dapper bane
#

I feel scared too looking at the job market

silver jacinth
fringe sphinx
dapper bane
#

my pay will be less than medicore too even according to indian standards

fringe sphinx