ot2-the-original-pubsta

[hoary marsh]

i mean, generally any notes

[digital bane]

Mr Robot starts grounded then gets more fastastic (fantasy) as the episides progress while keeping the hacker techniques fairly grounded

[jovial island]

you could, but it is not necessary as long as you have a stable net connection

googling things seems better

[hoary marsh]

oh ok

[jovial island]

perhaps note down the specific tricks you use

like a specific function you use all the time

but not everything

for example, for me its this:

def displayhold():
  while True:
    pass

@hoary marsh

or things you know you will need often in the future but that are hard to find

[hoary marsh]

ok

i think that noting down every command from pandas library is a must for me than

[jovial island]

no need to

perhaps for the beginning

but if you use them that often you will memorise them sooner or later

[hoary marsh]

i am just learning it, idk if i will use it often or not

btw, thx for your help.

[jovial island]

no problem mate

[tired imp]

Can someone here help me with enabling SSH over USB with the Raspberry Pi Zero on Windows? I followed the normal instructions (add dtoverlay=dwc2 in config.txt, modules_load=dwc2,g_ether in cmdline.txt, touching SSH), yet I cannot SSH over raspberrypi.local. Interestingly, Windows detected it as a RNDIS/Ethernet device before concluding that the Zero was a USB Serial one...

[frail bluff]

wow

[fallen current]

@jovial island This is a Script that I made for Minecraft (I expect you know what Minecraft is). It generates sphere. But it gets insanely slow for large spheres

[jade bolt]

do your sphere has to be solid?

[fallen current]

Both hollow and solid

[jade bolt]

hm

[jovial island]

I see. That's pretty cool.

[jade bolt]

is it possible for you to gen row by row 🤔

[jovial island]

Does minecraft have a set-region command or something where you can give it a bounding box and it fills all the blocks?

Rather than you doing one by one manually

[jade bolt]

/fill possibly, but it's rect only iirc

[fallen current]

That won't work

[jade bolt]

what if you carve the rect

[fallen current]

How

[jade bolt]

hang on, my math brain isnt responding

[jovial island]

this /fill? https://minecraft.fandom.com/wiki/Commands/fill

[fallen current]

It just files a cube or cuboid

[jovial island]

Would def be faster to make the solid sphere out of cuboids

[fallen current]

No

I checked

[jovial island]

but the math for finding the optimal ones sounds tricky 👀

Making a 10x10x10 cuboid is the same speed at 1000 individual setblock commands?

[fallen current]

No

[jade bolt]

hang on, lemme make some carve algo. i suck at visualization

[fallen current]

I can make a cuboid very fast but then I will have to remove the blocks that don't lie in the sphere and that is as slow as the previous method or sometimes even slower than the previous method.

[jovial island]

Ok, but what if you can make a bunch of cuboids that perfectly form the sphere, so there's none to remove?

I'm sure that's possible, though again the math sounds daunting

But sounds like the fastest way

[fallen current]

That will make my sphere not look like sphere

[jade bolt]

reverse the for loop sounds very promising

[fallen current]

No

[fallen current]

Wdym by reverse the for loop?

[jade bolt]

like reverse all your math there

then you should get what should be air, right?

[jovial island]

fill the whole cube then remove the rounded corners (but I think you said you tried that)

[fallen current]

The number of points that don't lie in a sphere is almost equal to the number of points that lie in the sphere so it's not a good method.

[jade bolt]

you can try only getting 1 corner, then maybe mess with the radius

the for loop should have less to calculate now i think

[fallen current]

Yeah I tried checking if the number points in a cube that don't lie in a sphere is less than points that lie in the sphere but I found out they are almost equal.

[jovial island]

Yeah, that's surprising. Only like 52% of the volume is the sphere

[fallen current]

So like there's no good way?

[fallen current]

I don't understand. Can you explain?

[jade bolt]

maybe calculate 1/4 sphere?

[fallen current]

Then?

How do I get the whole sphere?

I can't just clone it

[jade bolt]

rotate it

[fallen current]

Because there's limit to how many blocks you can clone

[fallen current]

I can't

[jade bolt]

hmm

i'll try writing one

not sure if it's even possible

does sound a fun project to do tho

[digital bane]

Take advantage of the fact the sphere is symmetrical

Imagine it being composed of circles of varying sizes along a common axis...

In top part the circles enlarge until it hits a maximum then it gradually diminishes

Drawing a circle is easy...and just shift along a third dimension then draw the next

[fallen current]

That's still O(n^3)

[digital bane]

Mirror the elements in the circle to save compute...

https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/bresenhams-circle-drawing-algorithm/

Then mirror top and bottom

The bresenham line and circle algo are built in in many graphics packages

I have implemented these myself from scratch

[fallen current]

I am not using any graphics package

[fallen current]

How do I mirror?

[digital bane]

Same i have done it without

[digital bane]

Math

[fallen current]

Huh

[digital bane]

Imagine a number line with 0 in center

[fallen current]

I have seen that before

[jovial island]

while drawing on (x,y) you can also draw on (x+2r, y), (x, y+2r), (x+2r, y+2r)

so you draw a circle with the loop of a right slice.

[digital bane]

1 is mirror or -1

https://github.com/TechnoTanuki/Python_BMP

All pure python has line, circle and even 3d

Also shading lol

[fallen current]

I will try that. Not sure I will implement it tho.

[fallen current]

Why do I need that?

[digital bane]

Just showing it is possible

[fallen current]

What is possible?

Graphics?

[digital bane]

Doing what you want

[fallen current]

It generates sphere?

[digital bane]

Yes

[fallen current]

Oh

[digital bane]

Use the method with the slicing

Sample output

All pure Python no libs

[fallen current]

Wow

[digital bane]

I was bored by covid so i did this lol

[fallen current]

That's so nice

[digital bane]

Thanks

[fallen current]

Isn't that Sphere just a circle?

[tribal tinsel]

All spheres drawn on 2d will be circles. But see the shadows.

[digital bane]

The big one isnt

[fallen current]

Oh

[digital bane]

The small one i used color computation to fake since faster

[fallen current]

Imagine making that in 3D

Without lib

[digital bane]

The dodecahedron lol i pre computed the vertices and same for some other polyhedra

Also surfaces

Also hand coded the bit fonts lol

[fallen current]

Wow

Lot of work put into this

[digital bane]

Outputs to windows bmp

I hand coded that too

Support for mono, 16 color 256 color and RGB

Has image manipulation routines

[jovial island]

What's with the new logo

[jade bolt]

#changelog

[jovial island]

Also, today, I and a friend were stuck in a computer lab without internet and we figured out the command to create a SQL user and give it privileges all on our own

[fathom basin]

are those real time rendered?

• when you're mentally advanced * jesus christ, if those are real renders in a linux kernel, thats just above senior developer at that point

[digital bane]

Fast render i timed it lemme run it on my laptop ...it is all software no gpu

[fathom basin]

my jaw is dropped rn

you made the mandle brot set rendered in opengl, mf higher order being bro the hell

i took drawing a triangle an achivement

when it came to glsl i just gave up

that should be like a os setup or cpp buildsystem test

[digital bane]

Most of the operations are not even a sec all done in 11.5 sec but it was a lot of elements i had to profile

Same output as above

Only imports in test code BITMAPlib mine

Part where I draw 3D

Lol no open GL no DirectX

All CPU

I treat an in memory byte array as a virtual video buffer that is in bitmap format...i flush that to the file system to save...and do the reverse to load

I know the bitmap format and made several loaders for it in other langs

Can be faster if i use open gl lol

[frail bluff]

yeah

do you used bitmap as a challenge?

[digital bane]

I wanted the constraints

[frail bluff]

oh

[digital bane]

I did a math lib for it

A font lib

3d math

[frail bluff]

ok

[frail bluff]

well i dont use constraints programming

[digital bane]

Even pixel plot routine lol

[frail bluff]

whoa

[digital bane]

Lol pixel plot to byte array buffer

[fast ore]

Mind telling me how this works? @fallen current

[frail bluff]

wow

you use minecraft commands or programming?

[fallen current]

JavaScript code

[frail bluff]

oh

but i was thinking that mc bedrock is made in c++

well gr8 work!

[fathom basin]

you're mad

[fallen current]

I am iterating over all coordinates for a cube of radius equal to the radius of the sphere and check if the distance of the coordinates is equal to radius using this formula:
(x*x+y*y+z*z) == r*r

[fast ore]

No as in how you are manipulating minecraft

[fallen current]

You can

[fast ore]

Are you using the keyboard to execute a precomputed response?

[fallen current]

Minecraft gives tool to create scripts that run inside minecraft

[fast ore]

Oh

Thanks for telling me

Source?

I mean to the tools

[fallen current]

This is the script that I am using to generate spheres in Minecraft.

import { world } from "mojang-minecraft";

export function sphere(x, y, z, r, block, blockData, hollow) {
  var blocks = 0; //initialising blocks for block count
  for(let i = -r; i <= r; i++) {
    for(let j = -r; j <= r; j++) {
      for(let k = -r; k <= r; k++) {
        if(!hollow, i * i + j * j + k * k <= r * r) {
          // we are using this formula to calculate the distance from the centre to a point in a 3D plane and check if it's smaller than or equal to radius
          world.getDimension("overworld").runCommand(`setblock ${i+x} ${j+y} ${k+z} ${block} ${blockData}`);
          blocks++;
        }
        else if (i * i + j * j + k * k === r * r) {
          world.getDimension("overworld").runCommand(`setblock ${i+x} ${j+y} ${k+z} ${block} ${blockData}`);
          blocks++;
        }
      }
    }
  }
  return blocks;
}```

[fast ore]

It is Javascript

[fallen current]

Yeah

[dusky cliff]

you dont need the k loop

[digital bane]

Not the first one to say that i think...mad scientist laugh

[fallen current]

Minecraft accepts JavaScript

[dusky cliff]

oh wait

you dont need the k loop if its hollow*

[fathom basin]

minecraft has an api?

[fast ore]

No python? :(

[fallen current]

I am doing for solid

[dusky cliff]

hm

[fallen current]

Yes

[fallen current]

No :(

[fallen current]

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/minecraft/creator/scriptapi/

[fathom basin]

world.getDimension("overworld")

>>> ∞

[fallen current]

What

[fathom basin]

wait so whats the output of your code @fallen current

[fallen current]

#ot2-the-original-pubsta message

[fathom basin]

sebastian lauge did a video about planets i think and he made a part where he teaches how to programmatically make a sphere out of triangles, if you have a square you can just use that context

let me find it

[fallen current]

I can't do it with triangles.

Minecraft doesn't have triangles :(

[fathom basin]

okay

[fallen current]

Only cubes

[fathom basin]

so, you have an algorithm to make a sphere with coordinates

[fallen current]

Yes

[fathom basin]

why dont you append your x,y,z values every single new value calculated and then when you run your script you run the command in another 3 layer nested for loop

or did you do that already

[fallen current]

That will make my script slower

[fathom basin]

cos im thinking, if you're working from the center to outer, then there must be build up values

[fathom basin]

then you need to use java i think so you can do memory control

idk does js have memory control?

[fallen current]

This API is only available for JavaScript so can't use any other language

[fathom basin]

so what im thinking is, you need 3 loops, 2 3-layerd and a singular for loop

you need to use the first 3 to calculate the values then append them to thier arrays

[fallen current]

Ok and how does that help reduce the execution time?

[fathom basin]

then you need the 2nd 3-layered for loop to read the values and setup your graphical "flip"

and then the 3rd for loop to render the flip

[fallen current]

Hmm

Oh

[fathom basin]

and by flip i mean, there is a display and a flip, the flip calculates and sets up a rendered screen, then the flip gets swapped with the display and the display is showing the flip and the flip is empty

by just rendering every block at a time you're stressing the cpu

[fallen current]

[fathom basin]

its a pygame thing, 2d game concepts, but they work for 3d as well because 3d is just 2d with shading

but idk if the minecraft api can do that

like queue tasks, and also, you're using js, which i think is a single event loop lang, so you cant really do much about optimisation like you could with somthing like a java lib where you can allocate certain events to occur

[fallen current]

That's not my task

All that is done by the game

[fathom basin]

yeah but thats what's happening with your code

either you're code is fine and you're running mobile minecraft

or your script works

its either 2 mate

[fallen current]

But the script is not rendering block. It's just placing the block there and the game is rendering it.

[fathom basin]

yep, so you cant do anything beyond just placing the block

you can run a profiler and see which parts of the code take the most amount of memory

[fallen current]

Where?

[fathom basin]

idk, i dont fw javascript like that

[fathom basin]

https://clinicjs.org/

Clinic.js HeapProfiler

[fallen current]

Ok I will check later

[prime prawn]

i see the logo changed

[fathom basin]

Black History Month

...

[prime prawn]

oh

[fathom basin]

#changelog

[prime prawn]

ok

[rocky nebula]

3 yello guys (pfp)

[idle pelican]

Neber tryed

[sharp bronze]

pog

[idle pelican]

Alexa

This channel id ded

[jovial island]

henlo

[idle pelican]

Hemlo gumz

[jovial island]

and thats why we can have most of it to ourselves for now

[jovial island]

hruuu

[idle pelican]

Finewbu

I have to go to school tmrw i think i need to sleep

[jovial island]

same ig, tysm

[jovial island]

uhh, school lol, good luck

[idle pelican]

..

I was learning geograpyy

H*

[jovial island]

lmaooo good luck

btw, where you from

if you dont mind

[idle pelican]

India

[jovial island]

nvm, already figured it out from your name

[idle pelican]

Ofc

And u?

[jovial island]

London

[idle pelican]

Cool

[jovial island]

maybe

[idle pelican]

Maybe???

[jovial island]

Yes!!!

[idle pelican]

Great

[jovial island]

indeed

[idle pelican]

Yes

[jovial island]

No

[idle pelican]

Its 10 45 pm here

My battery is 15%

[jovial island]

uh, go to sleep

[jovial island]

yours?

[idle pelican]

Ye

[jovial island]

ooof

[idle pelican]

Device*

My os is in sleep mode

Woah 2 pings

[jovial island]

wow

[idle pelican]

U dont know this account secreat

Just telling u

The one thing

(This is alt)

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Not main id

Going to sleep meet u tmrw

[zealous hazel]

this is kind of random but i would love to cut the electricity of a 10th grade class and then stand at the door with lamps in a position to look like they were my eyes and then play freddy's music box

also zamn dead chat

no msgs for like 9 hours

[hazy laurel]

lights are out? that's sus

time to head to electrical

[zealous hazel]

lol amogus finally took over you

[digital bane]

You find it

[hazy laurel]

Why are your knees not in this picture

[digital bane]

Lol im the one holding the camera so that is not me ...have another with knees visible

[hazy laurel]

there they are

[jovial island]

You are in medicine?

[digital bane]

No lol

That was a picture taken a few weeks ago when my mom was in the hospital with me....low sodium ...she ia ok nao

[jovial island]

oh, okay.

Looks like you did a jeans reveal though

[digital bane]

Hard to remeber lol maybe

[digital bane]

Ah yeah my knees are visible lol

[digital bane]

A couple of my relatives thou are in medicine

[brazen jacinth]

best delete those

it come over as offensive to some people

and no, shitposting isn't allowed

or meme dumping

learnt that the hard way

but im not going to be mini mod

[jade bolt]

an admin told you not to though

offtopic isn't for shitposting

*she

[severe glacier]

i thought they linked me here

[jade bolt]

#python-discussion message

[severe glacier]

so a helper tricked me

[slate leaf]

*Redirected you out of python-general

[brazen jacinth]

[carmine herald]

lol if someone gets offended at making python into your waifu jokes i think thats their problem

[brazen jacinth]

indeed

there are weeb-grammers among us

[carmine herald]

honestly offending prudes and the anti-fun ppl like that is based ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[open lion]

how can i solve that under-root term in multiplication
?

ping(as many times you want 😆 ) while answering!

[tribal tinsel]

Those are two roots, each with sum?

sqrt(a) * sqrt(b) = sqrt(a*b)

[tribal tinsel]

Is that the whole task? Or was there something else before it?

[dusky cliff]

yeah idt you can transform that to anything clean

[tribal tinsel]

I'd say you messed up earlier. The step at the top

[dusky cliff]

you can get a 4th degree polynomial by keeping the sqrt on one side and the rest on the other and then squaring

[tribal tinsel]

Instead of doing (sqrt(a) + sqrt(b))²=100, you should put the sqrts on different sides

[dusky cliff]

mm where would you go after that

[tribal tinsel]

Also square the whole thing but now we get rid of one sqrt :P

sqrt(a)+sqrt(b) = 10 (because sqrt >=0 so we know it won't be -10 on the right)
sqrt(a) = 10-sqrt(b)
a = (10-sqrt(b))^2
a = 100-20sqrt(b)+b
now let's put our a and b back there:
(x-y)^2+y^2+z^2 = 100-20sqrt((x+y)^2+y^2+z^2)+(x+y)^2+y^2+z^2
(x-y)^2-(x+y)^2 = 100-20sqrt(b) (I'm too lazy to write it)
-4xy = 100-20sqrt(b)
20sqrt(b) = 100+4xy

I wrote it on computer and copied on my phone XD

[open lion]

oh great, i found same solution on internet for my question. i think it's only smartest way of solving because using other approach will make solution of infinite steps.

thanks guys for helping me! @tribal tinsel@dusky cliff

sorry for ping! 😓

[tribal tinsel]

Yep. We want to get rid of the sqrts, so we need to keep them single for squaring whole thing :3

[dusky cliff]

i like pings dw

[tribal tinsel]

I haven't did such tasks in a long time, it was fun

[open lion]

dw means?

[tribal tinsel]

Don't worry

[open lion]

Oo

lol

i likes too

[open lion]

is this really ok?

means can i do this?

[dusky cliff]

assuming a and b are positive, yes

[open lion]

no, this doesn't works

[tribal tinsel]

You kept sqrt 5 here

[open lion]

yea, see this one ^

[tribal tinsel]

This is only sqrt(5) calculated here for some reason, tho?

Blah, wrong thing XD

!e
print(50.5 * 60.5)
print(30**0.5)

[clever salmon]

@tribal tinsel :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.

001 | 5.477225575051661
002 | 5.477225575051661

[open lion]

hmm, yea i did use calculator again it's correct

[open lion]

but what you did here?

[tribal tinsel]

x = x^(2/2) = (x^0.5)^2

Dammit, I'm reading discord too much. I first didn't notice my bus stop and now I went to wrong side of subway because when I lived here, I went north more often than south. + I normally go to other end of the station, so situation was just rotated from what I wanted XD

Hm, maybe I'll go eat something first XD

[open lion]

lol

i have a BEST solution for you

@tribal tinselhttps://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=yash.naplarmuno
Use this or any of its alternatives. It will start ringing alarm when you reaches your set location.

then use discord hassle free 😆

[tribal tinsel]

I'm in city centre and burker king has Thursday promo, I'm fine. I didn't eat a proper lunch anyway, only a small burrito for late breakfast XD

And normally I'm pretty good at navigating while being on my phone

But I'm tired today

We were to check out new office

[open lion]

awesome

[open lion]

Oo

btw thanks for helping me out in my doubt

[tribal tinsel]

It's bare for now, but the rooms are nice and we're gonna get what we want there :D we will have some beanbags in that corner

2 desks by the window, facing each other, and one for some future person

I will have my friend in next room

And kitchen nearby :3

[open lion]

room looking awesome btw

[tribal tinsel]

Too white XD

Everything is white with sometimes some grey

Kitchen

It's way bigger than what we have in the current office.

[marsh horizon]

Beautiful one

[jovial island]

nice office

[tribal tinsel]

It's kinda weird how we got bigger. It's almost 3 years that I've been there. I went through one office remodelling to fit more desks, now we're moving offices...

[jovial island]

how does it feel like, moving offices?

[visual slate]

@fervent tinsel

import random,argparse

parser = argparse.ArgumentParser()
parser.add_argument('-m','--min',type=int,action='store',default=0.0)
parser.add_argument('-M','--max',type=int,action='store',default=100.0)
parser.add_argument('n',type=int,action='store',nargs='?',default=1)

args = parser.parse_args()
for _ in range(args.n):
    print(random.uniform(args.min, args.max))
``` might i suggest argparse for your previous q?

[fervent tinsel]

Honestly this might be too advanced for me for now, I have alot to learn 😅

[visual slate]

might look like a lot, but i made this from reading the docs for a few mins, +1 stackoverflow search for the nargs without having used it before

its got reasonably friendly documentation

https://docs.python.org/3/howto/argparse.html#id1

[fervent tinsel]

I'll read more about this and play around with argparse... thank you for the help

[zinc temple]

@median spire yeah its the ratio of the diameter to the circumference, but its also the ratio from the area of a square to the area of a circle. Its also found in other places too, like in radians and such

[median spire]

😳

i didnt know that

im only just now learning about the area of a circle n stuff (in school, at least, because i already knew it lol)

[zinc temple]

I think it was first found in the ratio of the diameter to the circumference tho

[median spire]

yeah probably

[radiant socket]

ratio from the area of a square to the area of a circle
eh?

[zinc temple]

Yeah. If you have a unit square (1 wide and 1 high), its area is 1. A circle with a radius of 1 has an area of pi * 1*1, which is just pi

[radiant socket]

uh what about a 2x2 square

[median spire]

lmao

[radiant socket]

and a circle with radius 2

[zinc temple]

That’d be proportional to a circle w a radius of 2 i believe

[radiant socket]

sure ig ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[median spire]

m

[digital bane]

Lol panic driven dev....ah been there

[median spire]

💀

[zealous hazel]

can anyone recommend me some really really based songs?

[jade bolt]

xue hua piao piao

[zealous hazel]

more

i use that on my social credit grinding sessions already

[jade bolt]

gongchan zhuyi hao

literal trans: communism is good

[zealous hazel]

thx

[jade bolt]

oh my bad, it was shehuizhuyi hao

socialism is good

[zealous hazel]

oh pok

[ripe shadow]

attention people
Im in need of finding a song I legit dont remember the exact tune or lyrics but
i heard it around 2014 it was a englihs song, this guy had a "rough" type of voice.
i jsut cant rmemeber what it was called something like gumball or rumball or something like that
Can someone help m e find it

[analog pewter]

You mean Pitbull?

[pseudo creek]

they found it #ot0-fear-of-python before - it was nickelback's 'how you remind me'
#ot0-fear-of-python message

[ripe shadow]

ye we found it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-Gewy40Ej4

oh no

i was bout to cry

[craggy bridge]

@jade bolt were u typing smthn?
was in a hurry so closed it-

[jade bolt]

nothin, i was going to type !solved :p

[craggy bridge]

oh

[fallen current]

On my laptop:

On Android:

Oh wait typo

[shrewd lance]

int main() {
    cout << "yeet" << endl;
} 

Interesting

I get highlighting for py, but not cpp

[hazy laurel]

on mobile? or

[shrewd lance]

android, yeah

[hazy laurel]

I don't think I've had highlighting for anything on mobile

[shrewd lance]

I've tried a bunch of lang prefixes on this block of code and the only one that worked was py

huh

print("This is the only one I'm aware of that works") ```

[hazy laurel]

oh huh, it's the same for me

your phone is like giant but yes

unless that's a tablet

tbh I forget tablets even exist

[jade bolt]

I eat tablets

🤤

[hazy laurel]

🤨

[jade bolt]

💊💊💊

but they are round tablets

[hazy laurel]

we call those capsules

[jade bolt]

deez

[digital bane]

Yeah lol

[digital bane]

Moar like these

[jade bolt]

or deez

[jade bolt]

yee

[jade bolt]

couldn't find an emoji for deez

[digital bane]

Those are tablets or pills

[jade bolt]

ys

[hazy laurel]

meowing

[median blade]

no

[hazy laurel]

yes

[jade bolt]

no

[digital bane]

Still taking them pills for a fungal infection

[digital bane]

Meow

[jade bolt]

😨

[hazy laurel]

hate pills

[digital bane]

Same

[hazy laurel]

I'll go the rest of the day feeling like there's something stuck in my throat

[jade bolt]

keep hydrated btw

[digital bane]

I drink tea or water after meds

[civic wharf]

what ?

how do you swallow

[civic wharf]

oh hate that

[civic wharf]

that does sometimes help get the hairball out, yes

[hazy laurel]

true asf

[digital bane]

Lol very well with fluids....dont like med aftertaste so i wash it down quickly

[carmine herald]

well yeah but what you gonna do its the only way i can get my omega 3 in im terrified of my brain dying before the rest of me fails thats just a miserable life and i dont live in a country where they'd let me off the hook

[digital bane]

I was once prescribed those icky oily pills lol

[carmine herald]

they suck but i cant just have fish every other day or whatever

i dont like fish that much

[digital bane]

I eat fish sometimes lol same fish sucks

Unless it is Tuna

[carmine herald]

large predator fish has too much mercury so thats also not an option

[digital bane]

Yeah why I dont eat to much of those too

[carmine herald]

well with some luck ill make it to 80 lucid enough just with those shitty oil pills

[versed wigeon]

doesn't JS also work

[shrewd lance]

the pixel density is high, it's pretty average irl

[shrewd lance]

i mostly tried the C family, js/ja🅱️a/etc may work

[digital bane]

Im glad to be off those shitty pills lol

[jovial island]

pls tell me im not only person who codes on phone over pc

i only use pc when scrsping ect lmao

[remote widget]

BTW anyone here uses a local crypto wallet? 👀

[jovial island]

yes

i use exodus

[remote widget]

Oh damn

I installed the same one just today haha

A friend of mine told to try it out once

[jovial island]

its good one

[remote widget]

I really like the UI tbh

[jovial island]

smart freind

[remote widget]

Tho idk what else to do with it as long as he doesn't send me some test crypto 🤣

[jovial island]

its pretty much for -18

[remote widget]

18 below?

[jovial island]

age

[remote widget]

Ooh then for me haha

[jovial island]

most wallets need 18+

[remote widget]

let's see

O

[jovial island]

not possilbe

[remote widget]

???

[jovial island]

exodus doesnt allow test

[remote widget]

No test as in

He sends me some crypto haha

Like, costing a dollar or two, to see how it all works

[jovial island]

ye it need to be real crpto

[remote widget]

Yups

[jovial island]

i make btc selling stuff

[remote widget]

So now i need to see how to buy crypto with amazon pay haha

[jovial island]

tiktok usernames like 3L

[remote widget]

Cool!

[jovial island]

ye

its nice side hustle

[remote widget]

Okay so how to deposit money into exodus now

[jovial island]

you send from another wallet

or use coinbase

[remote widget]

;-; I cannot buy directly?

[jovial island]

no

since its unnder 18

[remote widget]

And coinbase is also under 18?

[jovial island]

no

[remote widget]

so I need to be above 18 to buy crypto, huh

[jovial island]

yes

or else ask a parent

[remote widget]

Ouch rip

[digital bane]

I tried programming in a phone for a while and gave up on it ..PC better

[remote widget]

Seems like my Amazon Pay money is gonna get wasted sitting there haha

[jovial island]

during day i use phone then during evening pc

[digital bane]

A laptop can do that unless you have desktop only

[jovial island]

I have laptop

But phone is easy to type etc

Then for scraping part I go on pc

[remote widget]

@jovial island u ever heard of bitpay?

[jovial island]

Nope

[remote widget]

Ah okay

Was just seeing how to convert crypto to money I can use irl haha

[digital ledge]

What is the difference between incoming-outgoing traffic and inbound and outbound traffic?

[slow prairie]

Can someone help

me

[civic wharf]

I see. I thought by no water you meant no fluid, seemed pretty horrible ngl

[civic wharf]

what do you need help with

[mental idol]

How do I prepopulate something to use in a %%timeit with IPython? (or can it?)

In [5]: %%timeit -r 5 -n 100000
   ...: d = {1: 1}
   ...: try:
   ...:   c = d[2]
   ...: except KeyError:
   ...:   c = 0
   ...:

I want d to be {n: n for n in range(100_000)} but don't want to time that piece. Disclaimer: First time playing with IPython.

oh, setup goes on the first line like the cli.

i lurn

Sweet

In [9]: %%timeit -r 5 -n 100000 d = {n: n for n in range(100_000)}
   ...: c = d.get(-1, 0)
   ...:
   ...:
40.9 ns ± 2.84 ns per loop (mean ± std. dev. of 5 runs, 100,000 loops each)

In [10]: %%timeit -r 5 -n 100000 d = {n: n for n in range(100_000)}
    ...: try:
    ...:   d[-1]
    ...: except KeyError:
    ...:   c = 0
    ...:
    ...:
184 ns ± 0.638 ns per loop (mean ± std. dev. of 5 runs, 100,000 loops each)

I feel advanced.

[woven stag]

yeah nicky I hate to say it but your pronouns are great at finding trolls 😂

[tribal tinsel]

Wet bee cleaning itself

[tribal tinsel]

I know ❤️ it's perfect to nib them at the bud!

Honey filtering 🍯

[woven stag]

like I've lost count of how many times a somewhat-inconsiderate member of pygen has completely given a reason to leave the server like that lol

[tribal tinsel]

Half the hive, swarmed on the ground. Zoom in if you're not scared of bees (there's a reason I'm spoilering those messages XD)

Queen 👑
And a bunch of other bees on a honeycomb

[hollow heart]

hmm how come they're on the ground?

[hollow heart]

do you keep bees?

[tribal tinsel]

Swarming is when bees start producing a new queen (many possible reasons - weak queen, too little space...) and old one feels she won't be able to combat the new one, so she leaves with half the bees. They leave with food for a few days and sit somewhere usually nearby (nearbee?), usually some tree or bush... Here they just chose thick grass. They sit in such place until the scouting bees find a suitable place.
That's how it works. How to catch a swarm is another story. We had some theoretical knowledge about catching swarms on trees and stuff but not on ground... So we just brought an empty hive next to them and gave them a plank to get to it XD waaaay later I learned that swarming bees don't sting and some people manually move them, looking for queen in the meantime (they follow the queen, so moving her to the new place - be it a hive or a box for moving - basically means you got them all)

[tribal tinsel]

My father-in-law decided to get two hives 2.5y ago. :3

[hollow heart]

oh interesting

definitely never saw someone just have a bee perched on their hand lol

[dim root]

oh lovely

[steel eagle]

honeybees are quite docile, swarming or not
assuming they don't have any africanization that is

they're the only stinging insect I will be near and not be afraid of

they really don't want to attack anything

that being said they are quite stupid

I have had one fly into me, get scared, and sting me from it

[unreal sigil]

I've seen plenty of videos online of people moving swarms by just shaking them out of a tree and luring them into a box, they don't even get stung cause the bees don't really care

Bees are good, wasps on the other hand are less fun

[hazy laurel]

I've seen people just straight up scooping up bees without smoke or anything

[unreal sigil]

yeah

They're pretty harmless

[hazy laurel]

I could never. Catch me out here with one of those giant hazmat suits

[unreal sigil]

The only times I've been stung by bees is me accidentally stepping on them and getting pierced

[jovial island]

I must have said it here before

[hazy laurel]

I don't think I've ever been stung, but I'd be very sad imagining that a poor bee out there is dying because it was scared of me

[jovial island]

But I interrupted two bees having a moment in a PVC pipe when I was a kid and got a huge swollen middle finger

[hazy laurel]

I don't think bees have moments 👀

AFAIK all the bees you end up seeing are the females

[jovial island]

huh

[dusky cliff]

might have been lesbeeans

[eternal elk]

hello

[river kelp]

hello

[edgy apex]

dead chat

[river kelp]

just joined here and i almost got banned lmao

[edgy apex]

nevermind not dead chat

[river kelp]

was in wrong channel

[edgy apex]

yeah, talking off-topic in #python-discussion is a pretty strict rule

[river kelp]

my apologies, i own a 400+ member discord youd think I know better

[edgy apex]

😂 it sok

most discord servers don't have this rule anyway

[river kelp]

ah i was talking shop and didnt even realize

someone other than me share a recent python script you wrote from scratch!

i will to ofc

[edgy apex]

lol sure

hold on

[river kelp]

ima choose randomly

[edgy apex]

https://github.com/szskill/hello-world

this was my first project in python

[river kelp]

my github has my real name so im gonna just give you the script if I can

[edgy apex]

o sure

[clever salmon]

Hey @river kelp!

It looks like you tried to attach a Python file - please use a code-pasting service such as https://paste.pythondiscord.com

[river kelp]

F

[edgy apex]

F

well i guess just use that

it's just hastebin

[river kelp]

https://paste.pythondiscord.com/ojabeciyac

[edgy apex]

o

info

that's nice

but that's... a lot of comments ngl

[river kelp]

i need comments to go back and understand what I wrote when I am not great at a language

[edgy apex]

I guess so

[river kelp]

ive written like 100 JS bookmarklets lmao for some reason

[edgy apex]

but don't you think

#prints IP address   
print("Your Internal IP Address is: " + IPAddr)

is a bit useless

it shows that it's printing something

[river kelp]

hey i didnt say it was good 😄

[edgy apex]

😂 lol

[river kelp]

add this as a bookmark in a browser, i love this one a lot

javascript: var travoltaWTF = document.getElementById('travoltaWTF'); if(travoltaWTF){ document.getElementById('travoltaWTF').remove(); } else { var travolta = document.createElement('img'); travolta.setAttribute('id', 'travoltaWTF'); travolta.src='https://i.imgur.com/Yc0G92s.gif';travolta.alt='WTF!'; travolta.style.position='fixed'; travolta.style.left='25%';travolta.style.bottom='0%';travolta.style.zIndex='10000'; document.body.appendChild(travolta); }

[hazy laurel]

what the

[river kelp]

it puts john travolta walking across your screen lel

yo i have a super fire mostly original .bashrc if anyone wants a copy

[edgy apex]

just give me your PS1

[river kelp]

as in console or my perl script >:)

powershell*

[edgy apex]

your bash console

[river kelp]

my bash console?

[edgy apex]

i meant like the prompt ps1

you know?

[hazy laurel]

imagine not using zsh

[river kelp]

i do but i dont like switching and am much better at bash

[edgy apex]

i use powerlevel10k rn

but i just wanna see his ps1 on bash

[river kelp]

what does ps1 mean

[hazy laurel]

much better at bash? that doesn't have much to do with choosing an interactive shell

[river kelp]

well each has a slight syntax difference

[hazy laurel]

PS1, the environment variable for prompts

[hazy laurel]

sure, but nobody's saying you should be writing scripts in zsh

you're likely to use bash anyways

and also the difference is typically negligible, you want to be POSIX-compliant regardless

[river kelp]

nobody says we have to write in any lang 🙂

i was offering my .bashrc file if thats what you want ill dm it

at least the version on my github

[hazy laurel]

I'm just saying that zsh and bash are similar enough to where it doesn't matter

[river kelp]

yeah but i wrote some cool custom functions and some decent aliases tho is my point

@hazy laurel

i like this server, got a free nitro without getting scammed (have reported like 5 of their sites and got them taken down) for some reason lol i might boost is there any incentive

[hazy laurel]

just a blue role lol

[river kelp]

meh it was free, why not

my server has enough rn

done

[hazy laurel]

now you've got a colored role \😩

[river kelp]

can i change the color

[hazy laurel]

nah

[river kelp]

purple or dark blue

meh nbd

[hazy laurel]

I think this server is running low on role colors or something

[river kelp]

Haha can that happen

[hazy laurel]

eh not really but semantic coloring

[nimble ivy]

I thought ps1 was a game console (or powershell)

[hazy laurel]

.ps1 is for PowerShell scripts IIRC

PS1 is just a colloquial name for the original Play Station AFAIK

[carmine herald]

i remember that one lol they made so many compromises with gameplay and loading times for better graphics and mp3 what a time to game

[river kelp]

same here, learning a bit of powershell rn so was confused

[fluid plank]

why are u fighting with 🐚

go to the ocean, drink some saltwater

[digital bane]

Lol he would die ...we need fresh water

[wheat rock]

Nacl moment

[river kelp]

yo someone curl -X GET this website, the source is WILD

https://aem1k.com/void/

[echo fern]

mm, don't think I will

[river kelp]

ill do it for you then

$ curl -X GET https://aem1k.com/void/


<script   >/ﾠ‌‌‌‌/[   ﾠ‌‌‌‌=""],ﾠ‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌='"',ﾠ‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌=   ﾠ‌‌‌‌==ﾠ‌‌‌‌,ﾠ‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌=ﾠ‌‌‌‌==  ﾠ‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌,ﾠ‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌=ﾠ‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌+ﾠ‌‌‌‌,ﾠ‌‌‌‌‌‌‌=ﾠ‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌+
 ﾠ‌‌‌‌,ﾠ‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌=+ﾠ‌‌‌‌,ﾠ‌=+ﾠ‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌,  ﾠ‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌={},  ﾠ‌‌=ﾠ‌+ﾠ‌,ﾠ‌‌‌=ﾠ‌‌+ﾠ‌,ﾠ‌‌‌‌‌=ﾠ‌‌+ﾠ‌‌‌,ﾠ‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌=ﾠ‌‌‌‌+ﾠ‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌,ﾠ‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌=  ﾠ‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌.ﾠ‌‌‌‌‌‌‌+ﾠ‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌,ﾠ‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌=ﾠ‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌[ﾠ‌]  ,ﾠ‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌=ﾠ‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌[ﾠ‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌],ﾠ‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌=ﾠ‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌[ﾠ‌]
  ,ﾠ‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌=ﾠ‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌[ﾠ‌‌‌‌‌],ﾠ‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌=ﾠ‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌[ ﾠ‌‌],ﾠ‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌=ﾠ‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌[  ﾠ‌],ﾠ‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌=ﾠ‌‌‌‌‌‌‌[ﾠ‌‌‌],ﾠ‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌=ﾠ‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌[ﾠ‌‌‌],ﾠ‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌=ﾠ‌‌‌‌‌‌‌[ﾠ‌]  ,ﾠ‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌="\\"  +")(",ﾠ‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌=ﾠ‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌[ﾠ‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌],
   ﾠ‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌=ﾠ‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌[ﾠ‌‌],ﾠ‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌=ﾠ‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌[ﾠ‌],ﾠ‌‌‌‌‌‌=ﾠ‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌+ﾠ‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌+  ﾠ‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌+ﾠ‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌+ﾠ‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌+ﾠ‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌+" ",ﾠ‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌=ﾠ‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌+ﾠ‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌+ﾠ‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌+ﾠ‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌+  ﾠ‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌+ﾠ‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌+ﾠ‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌+ﾠ‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌+ﾠ‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌+ﾠ‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌+  ﾠ‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌,ﾠ‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌=ﾠ‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌[ﾠ‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌][ﾠ‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌],ﾠ‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌(ﾠ‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌(ﾠ‌‌‌‌‌‌+ﾠ‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌+ﾠ‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌(
    ﾠ‌‌‌‌‌‌+ﾠ‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌(ﾠ‌‌‌‌‌‌+ﾠ‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌+ﾠ‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌+ﾠ‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌+ﾠ‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌+ﾠ‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌+ﾠ‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌+ﾠ‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌+  (ﾠ‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌=ﾠ‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌+ﾠ‌+(ﾠ‌‌‌+ﾠ‌‌‌)+ﾠ‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌)+ﾠ‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌+ﾠ‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌+ﾠ‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌+  ﾠ‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌+ﾠ‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌+ﾠ‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌+ﾠ‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌+ﾠ‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌+ﾠ‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌+  "'󠅥󠅶󠅡'"+ﾠ‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌+"."+ﾠ‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌+ﾠ‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌+
     ﾠ‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌+ﾠ‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌+ﾠ‌+ﾠ‌‌‌‌‌+(ﾠ‌‌+ﾠ‌‌)+ﾠ‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌+  ﾠ‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌+ﾠ‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌+ﾠ‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌+"/"+ﾠ‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌+".{"+  ((ﾠ‌‌‌+ﾠ‌‌‌‌‌))+  "}/"+ﾠ‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌+ﾠ‌+(ﾠ‌‌+ﾠ‌‌)+(
      ﾠ‌‌‌‌‌+ﾠ‌‌)+",'"+   "'"+ﾠ‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌+ﾠ‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌+ﾠ‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌)())(   )+ﾠ‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌)())  ()</script>

just one script with random symbols

[echo fern]

ah yes, jsfuck

[river kelp]

besides, curl cant harm you anyway for viewing the source

if you downloading something maybe

woah

$ curl -X GET http://aem1k.com/0/
<body onload=eval(eval('"'+escape("���").replace(/..(.)..(.)/g,'\\x$1$2')+'"'))>

is that the same @echo fern

[craggy bridge]

@sweet oyster thanks!

[river kelp]

someone add this to their .bashrc and youll thank me later

google() {
search=""
echo "Googling: $@"
for term in $@; do
search="$search%20$term"
done
xdg-open "http://www.google.com/search?q=$search"
}

google() {
    search=""
    echo "Googling: $@"
    for term in $@; do
        search="$search%20$term"
    done
    xdg-open "http://www.google.com/search?q=$search"
}

usage from CLI: google <TERM>

[fluid plank]

this otn is funny. for some weird reason, i find this funny, not because of kat. but i can relate

[fluid plank]

nah

[river kelp]

Lmao thanks for that notification 😂

[austere oak]

With ArrayDeque in Java, why can’t you access elements by index if the underlying structure is an array?

You can do this with Stack but not with ArrayDeque

Nevermind:
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/44059003/why-doesnt-arraydeque-implement-list

[austere oak]

Why does it let you index LinkedList which is O(n), but you can’t index ArrayDeque which would be O(1)?

[hollow heart]

!tban 938851074574536747 1w told you you'd be removed if you continued

[clever salmon]

:incoming_envelope: :ok_hand: applied ban to @ancient dragon until <t:1645894867:f> (6 days and 23 hours).

[radiant socket]

because it implements the List ADT :D

and ArrayDeque doesn't

[austere oak]

Why couldn’t they just make ArrayDeque implement List too?

[radiant socket]

oracle dumb ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[civic wharf]

is that a real thing

pretty much how I feel if I ever try to search through sources on Developer Tools

[mental idol]

Me: I'mma program now!
turns on music, turns down lights, lifts desk to standing position, prepares...
Partner: Here's dinner sets down loaded plate of nachos
Me: ...
Me: I'mma program tomorrow!

[radiant socket]

cute!

[hollow heart]

very

[fluid plank]

real programmers are si-- oh

[languid osprey]

Almost as much as me

[mental idol]

I never want to be a real programmer under that stupid stereotype. :)

[hazy laurel]

idk if that's even a stereotype

it's... a meme? idk what that is

[digital bane]

The easiest way to tell a Real Programmer from the crowd is by the programming language he (or she) uses. Real Programmers use FORTRAN. Quiche Eaters use PASCAL. Nicklaus Wirth, the designer of PASCAL, was once asked, "How do you pronounce your name?". He replied "You can either call me by name, pronouncing it 'Veert', or call me by value, 'Worth'." One can tell immediately from this comment that Nicklaus Wirth is a Quiche Eater. The only parameter passing mechanism endorsed by Real Programmers is call-by-value-return, as implemented in the IBM/370 FORTRAN G and H compilers. Real programmers don't need abstract concepts to get their jobs done: they are perfectly happy with a keypunch, a FORTRAN IV compiler, and a beer.

Real Programmers do List Processing in FORTRAN.

Real Programmers do String Manipulation in FORTRAN.

Real Programmers do Accounting (if they do it at all) in FORTRAN.

Real Programmers do Artificial Intelligence programs in FORTRAN.

If you can't do it in FORTRAN, do it in assembly language. If you can't do it in assembly language, it isn't worth doing.

[languid osprey]

Reject real programmer, embrace imaginary programmer

[mental idol]

Could be my anxiety attacks plaguing me today or that I'm just a grumpy jerk. I know it's supposed to be a joke. Feels silly to me.

[digital bane]

See how it ages lol

[digital bane]

That makes vaporware...imaginary programs

https://www.ee.ryerson.ca/~elf/hack/realmen.html

More lol

Generally, the Real Programmer plays the same way he works -- with computers. He is constantly amazed that his employer actually pays him to do what he would be doing for fun anyway, although he is careful not to express this opinion out loud. Occasionally, the Real Programmer does step out of the office for a breath of fresh air and a beer or two. Some tips on recognizing real programmers away from the computer room:

At a party, the Real Programmers are the ones in the corner talking about operating system security and how to get around it.

At a football game, the Real Programmer is the one comparing the plays against his simulations printed on 11 by 14 fanfold paper.

At the beach, the Real Programmer is the one drawing flowcharts in the sand.

A Real Programmer goes to a disco to watch the light show.

At a funeral, the Real Programmer is the one saying "Poor George. And he almost had the sort routine working before the coronary."

In a grocery store, the Real Programmer is the one who insists on running the cans past the laser checkout scanner himself, because he never could trust keypunch operators to get it right the first time.

[mental idol]

The nachos were, btw, amazing and now I'm going to take a nap.

[radiant socket]

👌

[radiant socket]

that's 20 hours old

[hazy laurel]

knees

[jade bolt]

butts /j

[robust bloom]

nostrils

[carmine herald]

imagine excluding the they/them programmers smh

[hazy laurel]

Speaking of Fortran, see the most recent pin in this channel \😴

[digital bane]

It was a simple age back then lol bell bottoms... mysognistic males and punch cards

I have seen C versions of this lemme search

[carmine herald]

wait what i could've sworn that happened earlier this morning, just without punch cards

[fluid plank]

it is a meme. sorry :C

[radiant socket]

my life is a meme 😭

[carmine herald]

who would want to do that anyway fuck fortran

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[hazy laurel]

single programmers amirite

get in line

[digital bane]

Lol im still single

Cant find the c version lol

But found this http://www.bernstein-plus-sons.com/RPDEQ.html

Lol the msogyny

I dont endorse it

[radiant socket]

i endorse it

[jade bolt]

real programmers dont program

[hollow heart]

why

[radiant socket]

funne

[hollow heart]

tbh i don't see the misogyny much but if i did i wouldn't appreciate you joke endorsing it

[radiant socket]

oh, i didn't see that misogyny message, i just saw the "Real programmers ..."

[digital bane]

Yep i cut it off there..lots more in the link

[hollow heart]

this is some questionable content

mind just not posting it and not linking it?

[digital bane]

Lol the definition of a real programmer..
Changes with time

[radiant socket]

that's actually not that bad

[hollow heart]

i saw mental midget

[digital bane]

Yeah i question it too but that was what circulated back then

[hollow heart]

so you won't delete it?

[digital bane]

Ok

[digital bane]

Yeah it is if you take it as a joke but not if some will be hurt

[hollow heart]

most of it was fine

but as a moderator i'm gonna high key question the mean-spiritedness of it all

[digital bane]

A college prof actually shared that in class lol

Why i know about it

[jade bolt]

what if real programmers are fake

[hazy laurel]

then they're not real programmers

[jade bolt]

but they're real programmers

[hazy laurel]

k tired of this "real programmers" thing already

lmfao

[dusky cliff]

i bet real programmers wouldnt be tired of it

[digital bane]

Ok what about int programmers

[dusky cliff]

they're a subset of real programmers too

[hazy laurel]

imaginary programmers

[digital bane]

https://fortranwiki.org/fortran/show/Humor

GOD is REAL (unless declared INTEGER).

[jade bolt]

dont square root a negative programmer pls

[digital bane]

https://youtu.be/3BR8tK-LuB0

Quaternion Programmer then lol

Useful for 3D

https://youtu.be/d4EgbgTm0Bg

[mental idol]

from cardmaker.model.constants import COLORS
from cardmaker.model.constants import FONTSIZE
from cardmaker.model.constants import FONTTYPES
from cardmaker.model.constants import HORIZONTALALIGNMENT
from cardmaker.model.constants import WEIGHT
from cardmaker.model.constants import T_COLORS
from cardmaker.model.constants import T_FONTSIZE
from cardmaker.model.constants import T_FONTTYPES
from cardmaker.model.constants import T_HORIZONTALALIGNMENT
from cardmaker.model.constants import T_WEIGHT

hep, too many options!

[jade bolt]

😨

wait, i just noticed i'm renamed

weird

[mental idol]

@pytest.mark.parametrize(
    ("attr", "value", "expected"),
    (
        ("color", "default", "default"),
        ("color", None, None),
        ("color", "invalid", None),
        ("fontType", "default", "default"),
        ("fontType", None, None),
        ("fontType", "invalid", None),
        ("horizontalAlignment", "left", "left"),
        ("horizontalAlignment", None, None),
        ("horizontalAlignment", "invalid", None),
        ("isSubtle", False, False),
        ("isSubtle", None, None),
        ("isSubtle", "invalid", True),
        ("maxLines", 1, 1),
        ("maxLines", None, None),
        ("maxLines", "invalid", None),
        ("size", "default", "default"),
        ("size", None, None),
        ("size", "invalid", None),
        ("weight", "default", "default"),
        ("weight", None, None),
        ("weight", "invalid", None),
    ),
)

It continues to grow...

[dusky cliff]

from cardmaker.model.constants import (
    COLORS,
    FONTSIZE,
    ...
)

[jade bolt]

smh

from cardmaker.model.constants import *

[dusky cliff]

lol

[mental idol]

My linters disagree with this idea.

[median blade]

from cardmaker.model.constants import *```![lemon_hyperpleased](https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/754441879822663811.webp?size=128 "lemon_hyperpleased")

[dusky cliff]

🥈

[median blade]

[mental idol]

If true, allow text to wrap. Otherwise, text is clipped.
I love the fact that this flag is optional and defaults to false. Display your message with this object, we'll clip most of it by default.

[median blade]

bruh

[mental idol]

This is smexy though. Look at that future annotations. (still looks weird to me)

@dataclasses.dataclass
class TextBlock:
    type: str = "TextBlock"
    text: str = ""
    color: str | None = None
    fontType: str | None = None
    horizontalAlignment: str | None = None
    isSubtle: bool | None = None
    maxLines: int | None = None
    size: str | None = None
    weight: str | None = None
    wrap: bool | None = None

Not quite as immediately readable to my eyes as Optional[str]

[dusky cliff]

that's a lotta nullables

camelCase

papa 8 is coming 4 u

[mental idol]

Matching the target model so I don't need to translate the attributes into the payload. https://adaptivecards.io/explorer/TextBlock.html

[dusky cliff]

hm

[hazy laurel]

cursed

I probably would've used a dictionary here

[mental idol]

    def __repr__(self) -> str:
        # Remove all None values
        cleaned = {k: v for k, v in dataclasses.asdict(self).items() if v is not None}
        return json.dumps(cleaned)

It is, basically, a dict. One with setters.

[carmine herald]

yeah thats sort of a consent issue tbh, with rando discord peepo its best to not do those jokes lol

college profs sometimes like to pretend everyone is in with their antics -_-

[digital bane]

That one made some in the class cry lol..even a military veteran

[mental idol]

5 failed, 44 passed in 0.10s Close to done. This is the largest of the three needed models. Darn nap really delayed me!

45 passed in 0.12s
Name    Stmts   Miss Branch BrPart  Cover   Missing
---------------------------------------------------
---------------------------------------------------
TOTAL     122      0     20      0   100%

8 files skipped due to complete coverage.

There we go. Momentum. Now for sleep.

Next model is ez. Not even listed in the docs and just need width and entities[].mention.

"msteams": {
    "width": "Full",
    "entities": [
        {
            "type": "mention",
            "text": "<at>Preocts</at>",
            "mentioned": {
                "id": "[UID or Email here]",
                "name": "Preocts"
            }
        }
    ]
}

Maybe a FactSet and Action.OpenUrl to wrap it up. Toss it into a builder abstract, toss a http.client send in, bob's your uncle, and presto: mildly automated messages into teams with no need to register/build/maintain a bot.

[deft yarrow]

what is a string

[river kelp]

a noun

and a defined set of continuous text in python

[light fractal]

Hi, I was wondering if someone could offer a good recommendation of language to use. I want to make a website that stores posts, articles published, pictures etc and have full freedom with design elements. Reactjs and firebase a good combination to use?

[grim beacon]

@crimson cobalt

[crimson cobalt]

yupp i'm here

[grim beacon]

sup

[crimson cobalt]

can i know what you are doing with python

[grim beacon]

i used to make discord bots and do backend web dev with python, but now i have transitioned to more of a C#/Rust dev

i stil do python but not in major projects

[crimson cobalt]

and how did you started

[vague plover]

how long have you been programming moai?

[grim beacon]

9 years (but i took a long break and wasn't consistent throughout that time.)

i rlly started focusing on programming in 2020

[crimson cobalt]

so you are the experienced one

[grim beacon]

well

[vague plover]

your profile says you're 14... if that's still true, I'm very impressed

[grim beacon]

i didn't do much with programming beforfe 2020. i just was introduced to scratch

[jovial island]

Hi

[crimson cobalt]

u 14?

[jovial island]

!resources

[clever salmon]

Resources

The Resources page on our website contains a list of hand-selected learning resources that we regularly recommend to both beginners and experts.

[grim beacon]

and after learning scratch, i legit stopped until 2018 and checked out html/css

i learned scratch around 2015

so i was 5

[crimson cobalt]

ohh

how introduced you into coding

[grim beacon]

and between 2018-2020 i did very minimal coding

until i found python in 2020

[jovial island]

Discord bots for me

[grim beacon]

yes i am

[jovial island]

Same

[crimson cobalt]

nice way to get into lmao

[jovial island]

😭

I only started python like 3-4 month ago

[crimson cobalt]

don't worry even i started two months ago

but it's fun though

[grim beacon]

it is

[crimson cobalt]

and what's your goal with this

where you are heading to

[jovial island]

Ya but the problem is I’m bad at it and I get bullied by @long vortex doing !resources

[jovial island]

Facts

[long vortex]

[grim beacon]

im currently learning c# and rust with the hopes of becoming a backend/software dev in those langs

[long vortex]

resources

[jovial island]

STOP

[long vortex]

if you are 14 then alex knows python

🗿

[grim beacon]

🗿

[jovial island]

😭

Stop

[crimson cobalt]

@long vortex ares you can not bully us begineer 🥲

[long vortex]

i don't everyone was a beginner at some point

though, you better admit you are a beginner rather than trying to act like you are advanced

[grim beacon]

he isn't doh

[crimson cobalt]

yeah why to be oversmart

[haughty lion]

@radiant socket

[radiant socket]

ok

[haughty lion]

can i share my c++ code?

[radiant socket]

only if you want help

[haughty lion]

i meant, do you know c++?

[radiant socket]

a bit

[haughty lion]

class Solution {
public:
    ListNode* mergeTwoLists(ListNode* list1, ListNode* list2) {
        ListNode* head = nullptr;
        ListNode* temp1 = list1; ListNode* temp2 = list2;
        ListNode* temp; ListNode* prev;
        
        if(list1 == nullptr)
        {
            head = list2;
            return head;
        }
        else if(list2 == nullptr)
        {
            head = list1;
            return head;
        }
        else
        {
            while(temp1 != nullptr && temp2 != nullptr)
            {
                if(temp1->val < temp2->val)
                {
                    temp = temp1;
                    temp1 = temp1->next;
                }
                else
                {
                    temp = temp2;
                    temp2 = temp2->next;
                }
                if(head == nullptr)
                {
                    head = temp;
                }
                else
                {
                    prev->next = temp;
                }
                prev = temp;
            }
            if(temp1 != nullptr)
            {
                temp->next = temp1;
            }
            else if (temp2 != nullptr)
            {
                temp->next = temp2;
            }
            return head;
        }
    }
};

this was the first case

class Solution {
public:
    ListNode* mergeTwoLists(ListNode* list1, ListNode* list2) {
        ListNode* head = nullptr;
        ListNode* temp1 = list1; ListNode* temp2 = list2;
        ListNode* temp; ListNode* prev;
        
        if(list1 == nullptr)
        {
            head = list2;
        }
        else if(list2 == nullptr)
        {
            head = list1;
        }
        else
        {
            while(temp1 != nullptr && temp2 != nullptr)
            {
                if(temp1->val < temp2->val)
                {
                    temp = temp1;
                    temp1 = temp1->next;
                }
                else
                {
                    temp = temp2;
                    temp2 = temp2->next;
                }
                if(head == nullptr)
                {
                    head = temp;
                }
                else
                {
                    prev->next = temp;
                }
                prev = temp;
            }
            if(temp1 != nullptr)
            {
                temp->next = temp1;
            }
            else if (temp2 != nullptr)
            {
                temp->next = temp2;
            }
        }
        return head;
    }
};

this is the second case

[median holly]

Allman bracket style is so hard to read IMO

[radiant socket]

yeah that's terrible

anyways

[haughty lion]

to each his own

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[radiant socket]

i'm pretty sure leetcode just has a bunch of variability in their measuring thing, which probably accounts for the differences

[haughty lion]

so its a leetcode specific thing?

[radiant socket]

that's my first guess ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[peak snow]

I know this isn't about python but how can I run 2 different tasks with different versions of discord.py? I have a bot for discord.py 2.0 and one for discord.py 1.7
I want to run both on one server. Can any1 help?

[haughty lion]

i ask cuz there was a pretty huge difference in terms of competitor's times

[radiant socket]

also, are those pieces of code different?

[median holly]

yes they are

[radiant socket]

oh, there's 2 returns different, i see

[median holly]

notice the return

[haughty lion]

yes

[radiant socket]

yeah, i'd try just submitting both of them again

[haughty lion]

nvm, leetcode's just messed up beyond logic

i submitted the exact same code again, and it took 15 ms

[radiant socket]

yeah

[remote widget]

Okay then, ig. You are your own master 🤷

[nova ember]

*main

/s

[hazy laurel]

that was terrible

[nova ember]

Hey! That was great

[remote widget]

??

[fluid plank]

u dont use git :<

[mental idol]

I think I've over engineered. :3
https://github.com/Preocts/msteamscard-maker/blob/main/src/cardmaker/model/elements/textblock.py

[median blade]

brug

[mental idol]

It has a view attributes.

I knew I was off the deep end with the test count before even starting on a client module. 66 passed in 0.09s

[mental idol]

1 failed, 69 passed in 0.12s

Overshot greatness.

[hazy laurel]

obligatory "nice"

[mental idol]

Glorious

    def __repr__(self) -> str:
        return json.dumps(self.asdict)

    @property
    def render(self) -> str:
        """Render object as serialized string. All None values are removed"""
        return str(self)

    @property
    def asdict(self) -> dict[str, Any]:
        """All None values are removed from output"""
        return {k: v for k, v in dataclasses.asdict(self).items() if v is not None}

They are so interconnected it makes me giggle.

[hazy laurel]

Is there any specific reason you didn't use something like indent=4 in the json.dumps for repr?

[mental idol]

Not particularly. It's meant to be used as the payload of a web call so no need to be readable.

[hazy laurel]

I would've thought having a readable repr to be handy

just in case you ever need to debug or something

well... actually I'm a bit confused lol

if you were using the asdict as a payload, wouldn't you prefer that it's a dict? (instead of a string)

[mental idol]

asdict is for other object to assemble larger payloads together. Actually as I was putting together one of the clients, the render property held little value at all. Maybe I will toss an indent into it.

Sounds reasonable.

[hazy laurel]

some of it seems a little weird, tbh lol

I feel like you'd just overwrite __dict__ and then you can do whatever outside of this class

[mental idol]

What do you mean?

Hmm, the client is the only piece calling asdict and it is the final product (needing to be serialized). So yeah, the smaller pieces could have a cleaner repr for human consumption. https://github.com/Preocts/msteamscard-maker/blob/main/src/cardmaker/webhookcard.py#L13

[clever salmon]

src/cardmaker/webhookcard.py line 13

class WebhookCard:```

[hazy laurel]

lol I think I've misunderstood how __dict__ works this entire time

probably not appropriate here, then

[dusky cliff]

__dict__ stores the attributes basically

[mental idol]

It is, more or less, all resulting in a dict for the final product. https://github.com/Preocts/msteamscard-maker/blob/main/tests/fixtures/webhook_card.json This is what it generates for now.

The extras are all abstractions or builders making it an easier object to work with in code. Build a TextBlock, use it in any number of Cards.

[hazy laurel]

For some reason, I figured it's what would get called by dict()

[dusky cliff]

mm no

[hazy laurel]

which would have been consistent with similar dunders, but... alas, I guess I can't expect the stdl to be consistent

[dusky cliff]

well, there arent any dunders like __list__ or __tuple__ either
theres just one __iter__ which all of them will call

[hazy laurel]

fair enough

I wonder if implementing __iter__ here would be appropriate

meh, I'm sure it's fine how it is

[mental idol]

We'll see. sometime mid-this week I hope to start a story that is working with these cards.

at work, that is.

[hazy laurel]

also ngl I feel like using properties here is a bit strange

[mental idol]

The real neat thing is, if I've done this correctly, none of this requires any auth or registering with Teams as all. All I need is a webhook connector's URL to drop the paylaod into and done.

[hazy laurel]

like... it works, but I think I would've expected Foo.asdict to be callable

[mental idol]

Yeah? That's valid feedback. I don't have a strong preference either way.

[hazy laurel]

idk, there's like an intuitive sense based off of the semantics that you can tell it should do something more than just act as a getter, if that makes sense

[dusky cliff]

hah guess what this returns dict(["ho", "fo"])

[hazy laurel]

well

is it gonna be h: o, f: o

[dusky cliff]

yep

[mental idol]

Hmm.. .asdict or .asdict()

[dusky cliff]

i generally call mine to_dict()

[hazy laurel]

yeah, I'd do to_dict()

[mental idol]

Have to say, thinking about it I do trip in pathlibs when .parent is a property but .resolve() is a method.

[hazy laurel]

just because I feel like generally function/method names should be verbs

[dusky cliff]

but dataclasses calls it asdict() so theres that

[hazy laurel]

hmm I wonder if there's a semantic naming guide out there somewhere

[mental idol]

Right, which is the subtle "as" versus "to" in the name.

[hazy laurel]

Should all (or most) function/method names be verbs?

[dusky cliff]

makes sense to me

[mental idol]

verb'ed methods is a strong semantic.

[dusky cliff]

def do_main():

[mental idol]

set_, get_, fetch_, add_, save_, isolate_

[hazy laurel]

def run(): \😩

[mental idol]

Gonna sleep on it (hopefully) but this was a good chatter. I appreciate it!

[hazy laurel]

so then... how about "Function/method names should typically be verbs/actions"

is there a fancy grammar word for actions

[mental idol]

verbs.

[dusky cliff]

isnt that just verbs

[hazy laurel]

um...

give me a moment

[dusky cliff]

:loading_cat:

[hazy laurel]

okay so then what was I thinking of

[dusky cliff]

what about functions that returns bools

[mental idol]

Boilerplate is cool

[dusky cliff]

def is_valid(x):

[hazy laurel]

def validate(x): \🥴

[mental idol]

is is my goto for anything bool checks.

[dusky cliff]

hmm validate doesnt sound bad

[mental idol]

Look at how fast Mac is now!! I wonder if they flipped it over to the new arm processors.

Those used to be the slowest tests.

[dusky cliff]

damn

[dusky cliff]

how do these work

like

are they all VPSs or something like that

or just VMs

[mental idol]

Current runner version: '2.287.1'
Operating System
  macOS
  11.6.3
  20G415

I don't know how to read that :derp:

[hazy laurel]

probably KVMs on one system

[mental idol]

It's all github actions so GitHub just spins up a docker container for the environment. Runs the actions in the config, then nukes it.