ot2-the-original-pubsta

[jovial island]

!e

import numpy as np
from fractions import Fraction
some_ = np.array([
    Fraction(1, 3),
    Fraction(1, 3),
    Fraction(1, 3),
])
print(np.linalg.norm(some_-some_))

[clever salmon]

@jovial island :x: Your eval job has completed with return code 1.

001 | AttributeError: 'Fraction' object has no attribute 'sqrt'
002 | 
003 | The above exception was the direct cause of the following exception:
004 | 
005 | Traceback (most recent call last):
006 |   File "<string>", line 8, in <module>
007 |   File "<__array_function__ internals>", line 5, in norm
008 |   File "/snekbox/user_base/lib/python3.9/site-packages/numpy/linalg/linalg.py", line 2530, in norm
009 |     ret = sqrt(sqnorm)
010 | TypeError: loop of ufunc does not support argument 0 of type Fraction which has no callable sqrt method

[jovial island]

then wtf is wrong with np

[jade bolt]

idk np

i don't use np

why use np

when you can say np to np

[jovial island]

!e

import numpy as np
from fractions import Fraction
some_ = np.array([
    0.33,
    0.33,
    0.33,
])
print(np.linalg.norm(some_-some_))

[clever salmon]

@jovial island :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.

0.0

[jade bolt]

ok

[jovial island]

uhm so its fraction and np alright

[jovial island]

because its fast.

[jade bolt]

!e
print(1234.sqrt)

wtf

[lucid osprey]

sqrt(1234)

[jade bolt]

ignore

me

[lucid osprey]

k

[jade bolt]

for being steel butt

[jovial island]

ok:(

[jade bolt]

how fast

[lucid osprey]

ignore me as well then 😛 testing out my previews https://ankithabhayan.github.io

image went, great

[jade bolt]

yes it went great.

no more image

[jovial island]

not sure, but they do it in cpp, and i have big computations.

so yeah. no np to np.

[jade bolt]

ICNOIMG

[lucid osprey]

the..what?

[jade bolt]

idk i see no image

i thought you want to include an image to your embed

[lucid osprey]

I wanna put this image https://ankithabhayan.github.io/images/preview_image.png

but..

not shown in da embed

I'm changing stuff

[hazy laurel]

What's your embed

[lucid osprey]

this lil preview that I'm talking about

og:image in a meta tag makes the image be displayed in line with the text

and its scaled down too, which I don't want

what I want it to look like is similar to this https://github.com

inspect element time for github.com

[jade bolt]

i want to build my website on github.io 2

is it free

[lucid osprey]

yes

aha so thats what I'm missing

[daring jay]

yes

https://pages.github.com

[jade bolt]

tea y

[lucid osprey]

I'm missing something else yet again

halp

https://ankithabhayan.github.io

works!

it was just the cache I guess, I didn't change anything from when I previously sent it.

[jade bolt]

congrats

[lucid osprey]

ty

lemme see how it is in whatsapp

[hazy laurel]

When that happens, I just add question marks to my links

https://cypheriel.codes/???

[pliant trench]

nothing actually

[daring jay]

I think it's seen as a query string

But it still resolved to the website just fine

[lucid osprey]

oh

[hazy laurel]

yeah, it does nothing because nothing is passed through

[pliant trench]

and btw

[lucid osprey]

I really like the animation in the background, how did you pull that off?

[hazy laurel]

particles.js

[lucid osprey]

ic

[pliant trench]

your site crashed after 100 clicks

[hazy laurel]

that website is horribly implemented, I've not even worked on it in ages

[lucid osprey]

clicks?

[hazy laurel]

100% your fault

[lucid osprey]

lemme dewit

[pliant trench]

lol ikr

[hazy laurel]

clicking doesn't work normally for most tho

you have to click far off to the side

[pliant trench]

?

wdym

[hazy laurel]

idk

you're not normally able to click in the middle

[lucid osprey]

I think its just a browser thing since nothing is happening when I click on it.

Well actually, the screen freezes for a fraction of a second

[hazy laurel]

You have to click off to the side

there's like... 2 pixels you can click on

[lucid osprey]

oh yeaa

[pliant trench]

lol what

I can literally click everywhere

@hazy laurel what browser do you use

[hazy laurel]

I use Microsoft Edge

[pliant trench]

use firefox

[hazy laurel]

Eh

I like Microsoft Edge more

[foggy flicker]

edge's cool

[pliant trench]

bruh, come on I don't have time to argue

I just want you to use firefox to see if that's a browser thing or not

[hazy laurel]

:L

[hazy laurel]

Okay, it's Firefox

[pliant trench]

wdym it's firefox

[hazy laurel]

Firefox is the cause of that

it works fine in Firefox

[pliant trench]

so edge is the cause of that

[median blade]

...

[hazy laurel]

no

It's not an Edge thing

maybe chromium if anything

[median blade]

i use firefox now

with

GNOME

not KDE

just GNOME

[hazy laurel]

hate GNOME

[median blade]

and

popOS

[pliant trench]

blome

[median blade]

not openSUSE

[median blade]

why hmm

[pliant trench]

did they finally fix the animation lag

I had this issue since I was kid

[median blade]

what is that

[pliant trench]

...

there's a button in the left corner

that shows apps

[hazy laurel]

idk, I don't really hate it... it's just objectively worse than KDE

[median blade]

why hmm

customisation wise yes

[hazy laurel]

cause it uses more resources but offers less customization

[pliant trench]

lol

[hazy laurel]

the only good thing about GNOME is GNOME Boxes

[pliant trench]

KDE uses more resources

[hazy laurel]

no it doesn't

especially since GNOME 40

[median blade]

i think GNOME uses more

[pliant trench]

yes it does

wow

[hazy laurel]

GNOME uses the highest

[pliant trench]

does it

[hazy laurel]

yes

[pliant trench]

I thought KDE uses the most

[hazy laurel]

Of modern DEs, GNOME uses the most

[pliant trench]

weird

so weird

[median blade]

i am currently using 5 GB RAM

[hazy laurel]

by modern there's really only GNOME, KDE Plasma, and Xfce

[pliant trench]

I lived with the belief

that GNOME uses less

[median blade]

and i have firefox, dis and vsc open

[hazy laurel]

Xfce ofc uses the least

[pliant trench]

yea ik that

[median blade]

not too heavy tho

so thats fine

[pliant trench]

ssd?

[hazy laurel]

According to Task Manager, I'm using about 6 or 7 GB with the same stuff open, pretty much

[median blade]

yes

[hazy laurel]

Edge + Discord + Spotify

I agree

GNOME looks like an old mobile phone

[median blade]

the ubuntu GNOME?

[hazy laurel]

and GNOME 40 just looks like macOS

idk man, I'm not a huge fan of the mobile UI outside of ... mobile

[median blade]

my main problem with gnome is the top bar in windows

[pliant trench]

I'm using 2.5 with firefox 10+ tabs, dis, emacs, some terminals, pavucontrol, how do you use that much of ram

[median blade]

its way too big

needlessly big

[median blade]

and the exit button etc look weird

[hazy laurel]

I hate how this looks

[median blade]

that being said, you can change it

[pliant trench]

gnome?

[hazy laurel]

If you show that to someone, they'll think it's like ChromeOS UI

[hazy laurel]

GNOME 40

[median blade]

pop dock however beats latte dock anyday

[pliant trench]

looks great tho

smooth

but the icons suk

[hazy laurel]

I'll forever believe Pop!_OS is nothing but a cash grab

to sell System76 computers

[median blade]

icons, shell etc can be changed

in both

[jade bolt]

wat is this

win11?

[hazy laurel]

GNOME 40

[jade bolt]

ok

[pliant trench]

lol he literally said it

[jade bolt]

ok

[hazy laurel]

idk

I love how great KDE can look with some simple themes

without using as much resources

[jade bolt]

oops i forgot i shouldnt reply with ok when @hazy laurel is here

[hazy laurel]

_>

Please stop that

[jade bolt]

ok sure

[median blade]

lol

one thing i like about popOS is that

everything works ootb

[hazy laurel]

Ubuntu would be the same

[median blade]

yeah

[hazy laurel]

Pop!_OS is literally just rebranded Ubuntu

[median blade]

yes

ik

[hazy laurel]

the only reason to use Pop!_OS is because of ootb looks

[pliant trench]

with pre installed drivers ig

[hazy laurel]

everything else is objectively worse

[median blade]

how so

[hazy laurel]

Ubuntu does the same

[pliant trench]

oh ok

[hazy laurel]

Pop!_OS GNOME is heavier than vanilla GNOME

[median blade]

mhm

[pliant trench]

@hazy laurel btw is it worth to setup btrfs on arch?

[hazy laurel]

I'd say yes tbh

[median blade]

just use openSUSE at that point

[hazy laurel]

because snapshots might save you

[pliant trench]

yea ive been thinking about this for a while now

but it's not stable

people had some issues with it

[hazy laurel]

What version of Pop!_OS are you even using @median blade?

[median blade]

21.04

@hazy laurel

[hazy laurel]

yikes

Why on Earth does it push non-LTS as the default!? D:

[median blade]

i chose non LTS

[hazy laurel]

yes and it's the default

[languid osprey]

@gentle shore Hey

[gentle shore]

hey

[languid osprey]

So, you were asking?

[gentle shore]

yes soo i know django why should i rust or should i learn it?

[languid osprey]

Well, in terms of web dev, Django is fine, it'll work, Rust just provides you an alternative. An advantage that Rust has is that its concurrent, you can create fast and multi-threaded web apps, as opposed to python, which is single threaded due to the GIL

You can write the frontend of web apps in Rust as well, with frameworks such as Yew

[gentle shore]

and in last chat you said it can do system related something what was that?

[languid osprey]

Rust is a systems language, which means you can do lower level systems programming with it

So stuff like kernel design, or writing low level drivers

Its why you can write an operating system in Rust, and not in python, since Rust can directly interface with the systems hardware and resources

[gentle shore]

oh can we make our own terminal likee thing in rust?

[languid osprey]

Yes

You can do that in python as well

[gentle shore]

oh ok

[languid osprey]

A terminal emulator is just a GUI app

Rust has a decent slew of GUI libraries as well

[gentle shore]

and i heard you are much into rust than into python lol

[languid osprey]

I love programming in both of them

Rust is also statically typed, as opposed to python being dynamically typed

[gentle shore]

can rust used for dsa and problem solving?

[languid osprey]

It can, yes

But I'd prefer python for DS

Python has a much larger array of tools and libraries for that

Rust doesn't have many libraries for data science

[gentle shore]

oh ok

[languid osprey]

Its still a relatively new language

[gentle shore]

i would learn it nice to meet you btw 😄

[languid osprey]

Haha, you too

[gentle shore]

can i add you as my frnd if you dont mind

or its ok

[languid osprey]

sure

[gentle shore]

thx 😄

and any resource for learning it?@languid osprey

[languid osprey]

For Rust?

[gentle shore]

yes

[languid osprey]

The rust book https://doc.rust-lang.org/book/

This is all you'll need

[gentle shore]

oh ok thx 😄

[languid osprey]

Its an official tutorial

And its very nice

[gentle shore]

thx again 😄

[jade bolt]

so uh i'm stuck because i can't read C code

static int
_nc_getmouse(SCREEN *sp, MEVENT * aevent)
{
    T((T_CALLED("getmouse(%p)"), aevent));

    if ((aevent != 0) && (sp != 0) && (sp->_mouse_type != M_NONE)) {
    MEVENT *eventp = sp->_mouse_eventp;
    /* compute the current-event pointer */
    MEVENT *prev = PREV(eventp);

    /* copy the event we find there */
    *aevent = *prev;

    TR(TRACE_IEVENT, ("getmouse: returning event %s from slot %ld",
              _nc_tracemouse(sp, prev),
              (long) IndexEV(sp, prev)));

    prev->id = INVALID_EVENT;    /* so the queue slot becomes free */
    returnCode(OK);
    }
    returnCode(ERR);
}

/* grab a copy of the current mouse event */
NCURSES_EXPORT(int)
getmouse(MEVENT * aevent)
{
    return _nc_getmouse(SP, aevent);
}

this is ncurses source on getting mouse location on terminal

and i can barely read it

i hope i found the correct one

https://github.com/gittup/ncurses/blob/5a58bcb99470378fbbb24d21cb5e54f08cb7d353/ncurses/base/lib_mouse.c

here's the web is anyone is interested

i'll try to find in another library probably.

[lucid osprey]

@maiden steeple https://open.spotify.com/playlist/37i9dQZF1DWV7EzJMK2FUI this one

[maiden steeple]

ok

my internet is crashing for some reason

thanks tho

[median blade]

boo

[lucid osprey]

welcome to my world

[maiden steeple]

lol

[lunar basin]

yeah, but unfortunately many sites don't support rust yet 😦

[pastel nest]

@grim seal halp

we were partying

lmao

[tawdry salmon]

Sadge

[grim seal]

lmfao

[lunar sand]

Help channels for python vs other languages are so funny, in another server if I go to a cpp help channel, someone is like "how can I do X", and the response is "here's 20 lines of code with variadic templates blah blah"

On here it's like "how do I do X" and someone answers have you tried "somemodule.do_x()" and then OP is like "wait you can do that?!"

[jovial island]

lmao

[sinful sun]

Ah yes, i call this the itertools phenomenon

[halcyon barn]

first day of school is tomorrow 😔

also my first time taking a programming class because my other school didnt have electives

[upbeat sandal]

I have a feeling this is an ot name that I added

But I don't remember the context

[lime drum]

prob someone in vc not being voice verified

[hollow heart]

@lofty copper why not just start with python?

[lofty copper]

oh shoot, I can talk about that here?

and well idk some people say to start with html

[hollow heart]

yes haha. not in community-meta

[lofty copper]

but I just want to know that if I start with python I won't miss out or mess up anything

[lofty copper]

ohhh alright thanks

[hollow heart]

you won't miss out on anything per se. or on the flip side, you might miss out on everything, all depends what you're aiming for

there's no fixed order that you have to learn the languages

but nothing wrong with starting with python, especially if you're learning for fun/hobby

[lofty copper]

ohh I see

yeah, just trying to learn for fun. make some projects for fun and stuff

[hollow heart]

yup if you have the desire and inclination to start out with python, nothing wrong with that. and later you can branch out to other languages (or not, up to you)

[lofty copper]

ohh alright alright

thanks, and if I want to learn another langauge after python, which one would you recommend?

[hollow heart]

i don't know any other than python (i'm a beginner) just a little bit of html/css which aren't "programming" languages in the same sense that python is. i know rust is pretty popular, others may chime in

if you're absolutely just starting out try corey schafer's beginner playlist on youtube, or for written try automate the boring stuff (free online)

[lofty copper]

oh I see, alright thanks you so much

[hollow heart]

@lofty copper any ideas for first project? :)

[lofty copper]

well, I've been in crypto for a while, so I want to make a program that updates me on prices

[unreal sigil]

I think a language like Rust is a good combination with Python, it's basically two polar opposites. They're very different from each other so you cover quite a lot if you learn both of them

[lofty copper]

oh I see, and sorry for the noob question, but what else can you do with rust. What is the difference between them

[unreal sigil]

Rust is lower-level, compiled, statically typed etc. Basically, extremely performant in comparison to Python, and can be used for projects that require lower-level access to hardware

With the pair under your toolbelt you can more or less do anything

It covers a very very broad spectrum

[lofty copper]

oh I see

[sharp spoke]

lmfao who is to blame for this otn?

makes sense

[jade bolt]

help.

i want my bro container to get in that webpage

align to left.

but doesn't work

html code

help

container: let me in bro please bro

[steel eagle]

well your tags have no indentation

that's not the issue but it would make it a hell of a lot more readable

and CSS is devil's magic

[jade bolt]

ok

alright i added bad indentation

[hollow heart]

• margins and padding to 0

[jade bolt]

alright thanks

[hollow heart]

and did you try absolute positioning

not saying it will work, just stuff I would try lol.

[jade bolt]

worked thanks

[pliant trench]

lol

[jade bolt]

i tried absolute positioning first. it worked but the monaco-editor trolled me

and set the width to something like 5px so i can't view

this time i used chrome devtools

[pliant trench]

I bet you tried this solution more than 10 times now lol

[hollow heart]

hmm? i've not really done any css in years

[sterile nymph]

That was suspicious

[pliant trench]

this try-it-maybe-it-works solution i mean, doesn't need to be css exactly

lol

[hollow heart]

but yeah first things first, set * margins/paddings explicitly to 0 and then add in to certain elements later.. is what i would always do

[sterile nymph]

And sad

[hollow heart]

oh yes this is the only way i know how to live life in general

[pliant trench]

lmaoo

[sterile nymph]

Trying to be happy and the opposite effect I'm from future

[hollow heart]

when learning something new. in other areas where i've learned all there is to learn (work) i know exactly what result i'll get in any given scenario

[pliant trench]

great

[hollow heart]

are you telling me you learn differently 🤔

[pliant trench]

I don't think so 😄

[woven hornet]

in javascript, js parseInt(string, radix)

what does the radix mean

[autumn hornet]

the bot is leaking

[dusky cliff]

the base

for parsing 1001 as binary, the radix would be 2

[odd sphinx]

ye

[sharp spoke]

this be same as
int("1001",2) right?

[dusky cliff]

ye

[odd sphinx]

ye

[sharp spoke]

nois

[rotund python]

.

discord funny bugs

[sharp spoke]

eivl has quite an army

beware

[tawdry salmon]

wait what lmao

[sharp spoke]

its the joe revolution

[median blade]

lmaoo

[odd sphinx]

bruhh

[wheat rock]

yay

WHOASOHAOHAO

[echo flower]

this reminds me of that one person

wait where did i keep the ss

i lost it :(

[slow valve]

bruh

[lucid osprey]

hey it says that a usb is write protected.

How can I undo it?

I don't want it to be write protected and I want to format it

[tribal tinsel]

Some drives have physical switch on them to prevent writing to. Really popular in SD cards

[lucid osprey]

yeah I have an sd card that has one

lemme check this usb

[tribal tinsel]

Either this or your USB drive controller is messed up (old/cheap drives get used up quicker, having problems with segments and sometimes the controller)

[lucid osprey]

this one is the oldest usb I've ever seen 👀

would it make any difference if I told you that this is the same usb that is a has a livebootable ubuntu iso in it?

I'll take that as a no.

btw, my vacation just started today!

[tribal tinsel]

The content doesn't make a difference, unless you set something weird while installing it

[tribal tinsel]

Yea, it may be the case

[lucid osprey]

rightt

[tribal tinsel]

You can try to format it under Linux (obviously not the one booted from it, lol), as Linux has some better tools. You can eg dd the whole thing with zeros to wipe it (works with drives corrupted by disconnecting during saving, which windows cannot run at all), but dunno about controller issues

[lucid osprey]

my brother runs linux I'll ask him to format from there.

but dunno about controller issues
hmm

thanks! bye

[exotic hound]

is vscode extension updated automatically?

[jade bolt]

https://www.quora.com/Can-I-sue-myself

[fluid plank]

i have a lot of questions about how this otn came to be

[cedar turtle]

^^^^^

this is the context

[fluid plank]

it is funny ngl

[jade bolt]

let me in bro please bro

[fluid plank]

i can feel the emotioon

[tribal tinsel]

Nope, ot2 will never be random meme drop, because ot rules :3

[sharp spoke]

i mean i can just do a meme dump.. but mods and python bot will yeet it with an infraction ._.

[tribal tinsel]

That's why I said ot rules prevent it~

[sharp spoke]

posting 1 meme is not prohibited tho... is it?

[tribal tinsel]

If it's in context, no

So it never becomes "random meme drop" like Rick suggested

[steel eagle]

It's also rarely in context when someone posts a meme

[tribal tinsel]

Yep

[civic plank]

well not really a true 1 rep max, i have never touched 295lbs but my app says my estimated max effort rep should be 335 🤨

[tribal tinsel]

PR? doesn't seem like pull request, you didn't request anything, you just went for it! 😉

[civic plank]

XD

[neat light]

Damn that looks heavy

[civic plank]

definitely a challenging weight for me, i usually do lower intensity work

[somber belfry]

my bones hurt watching the video

[civic plank]

[tribal tinsel]

Btw looking heavy, last year company integration we had strongman type tasks (with real strongmen hosting the whole thing)

[civic plank]

strongman people are out of this world

insane strength

[tribal tinsel]

Like, our people did stuff without additional weights and stuff. And what one strongman did to show the task? Invited a person to each "bucket" on the sides

[civic plank]

yeah they are nuts

i know of 2 strongmen, eddie hall and the guy who played "The mountain" on game of thrones

[neat light]

They make it look so easy

[sinful sun]

This looks like you can do 2 more at least

Nice one

[neat light]

It almost takes away from how strong they are when they make it look easy. Like if you've seen the atlas ball thingies where they lift massive boulders, looks like they're just big grey foam balls

[civic plank]

Thank you! This is supposedly my 85% of my overall max, atleast according to the app I use lol

[civic plank]

I think its kinda rare to come across people who do strongman, because of the insane amount of calories they need to get that strong

like they easily consume 10,000+ calories a day

[neat light]

Yeah on that level it's a whole lifestyle rather than just a hobby

[civic plank]

true

[jovial island]

3 months of youtube premium https://www.youtube.com/redeem
LUW42LWSHZTY
cc required

[somber belfry]

I heard it's only redeemable in the US, I'm not sure if that's true though

[quick shard]

what is smt you would buy thats 3d printed
i am tring to sell smt on etsy
but idk what to sell / print

[jade bolt]

samsung is telling me their terms are updated. click to accept

and i just dont click

like who cares

[median blade]

well, in india, you get ads in mobiles if you click accept

so

i very much care

[rotund python]

@sturdy relic

I can talk about copywright law in off-topic if anyone wants, just ask me there
which is best country for hosting VPN with torrent traffic leak 😉

as far my research goes, probably Netherlands?

I saw mention that this country basically hosts all famous torrenting web sites, so if caught with leak, probably nothing will be againt the law?

[sturdy relic]

sharing copyrighted material is agains the law even if you dont get caught

so piracy is by definition illegal even if you do it in parts of the world where its harder to get cougth

the law does not care about if people get caugth or not, it just defines whats legal or not

[rotund python]

so, there is no country where it is allowed then

[sturdy relic]

not allowed, correct

[sharp spoke]

piracy is well not allowed anywhere

[rotund python]

it does not prevent it from existing

I wonder though...

there are companies like ExpressVPN

[sturdy relic]

ofc not, its just a legal definition

[rotund python]

they allow VPN connections with torrenting

and yet, they don't have any legal problems

[sturdy relic]

a vpn is not illegal

why would they have legal problems?

[rotund python]

but their users accidentally share their torrenting traffic

when VPN is enabled

why they don't get trouble then?

[sturdy relic]

thats like blaming the road for you your car driving to fast

or blaming your car for you the human, driving to fast

the human act is what can be illegal or not

not the macines or roads we use

[rotund python]

but VPN makes ExpressVPN servers basically looking like they are sharing the torrenting traffic

how is it distinguished from them being torrenting sharers?

[sturdy relic]

that does not matter

[sharp spoke]

eivl so i had a random idea... could you like hint on if its breaking tos or how to check if its breaking tos.. cause i gave the spotify api tos a brief read and 1. its painful to read, 2. worse to understand

[sturdy relic]

when you the human download copyrighted material, you are breaking the law

how you do it does not matter

[sturdy relic]

ask away

[rotund python]

why? because they have good advocates, which already explained don't blame the road situation to any necessary party?

[sturdy relic]

no, because the law specifies that how does not matter, only that it happens

[sturdy relic]

these laws was written before the internet existed

there are very few internet centric laws in the world

[sharp spoke]

so uhm there is this listen together feature for premium users.. i think it is possible to make not a pretty exact but somewhat of a similar thing? which syncs your playback externally through python/spotify api
so would trying to make such a thing be violation of any tos.. idts but since its a premium only feature bit questionable

[sturdy relic]

it is not allowed to broadcast music you do not own the rights to and (important that its and here) you have the lisense for the music to use

you need both broadcasting rights, and you need to have permission for every song you play

legaly speaking

[sharp spoke]

hmm no well i mean i am using the spotify app to broadcast / play
i am merely changing the song through python interface?

[sturdy relic]

you cant broadcast

[sharp spoke]

uh not even broadcast

[sturdy relic]

if you only play for yourself, on your own computer, and you controll the selection over the spotify api, that is fine

but it needs to be the right api, and not a third party hack

[sharp spoke]

its like i am controlling the python playback through another python program

[sturdy relic]

some third party hacks introduce controll not present in the spotify api

but as long as its within the api, its perfectly fine

from a ToS standpoint

[sharp spoke]

that also well with a consent of the user.. and through the spotify api?

so would be fine i guess right?

[sturdy relic]

yes, as long as its the real spotify api

there are multiple copies around

[sharp spoke]

what would be correct one to use with python? or just rely on requests and their web api?

[shadow elk]

@jovial island portal from SO, you should open a help channel

[sturdy relic]

yes, requests and their web api

[sharp spoke]

ah okay.. sounds like quite a work tho lol

[sturdy relic]

yes, unless they have a recommended python package in their documentation, but working with apis over the web is a nice practise

[jovial island]

Hello? Why was I pinged?

[hazy laurel]

I'm guessing that fix responded to a Stack Overflow thread of yours and is suggesting you make a help channel here (#❓｜how-to-get-help)

[jovial island]

Oh, ok.

Let me check if the fix works first.

[rotund python]

opened pgadmin interface for direct control of the database

and feeling nostalgic about university years.

all the last time I usually needed only ORM handling, almost never needed direct SQL

pgadmin with postgresql comes quite easy to install

quite short and ready to use docker-compose to launch, and that's it.

[somber belfry]

cool

[jade bolt]

do you
search for
vivek?
how tf did you even see that
ah its ot2
nvm

[rotund python]

by any luck anyone knows perl?

    my ($user, $password) = split;
    $status = "ERR";
    $user =~ s/%(..)/pack("H*", $1)/ge;
    $password =~ s/%(..)/pack("H*", $1)/ge;

how is inputed data here?

trying to make a sense of db_auth plugin in squid

the plugin has in a loop this thing

$|=1;
while (<>) {
    my ($user, $password) = split;
    $status = "ERR";
    $user =~ s/%(..)/pack("H*", $1)/ge;
    $password =~ s/%(..)/pack("H*", $1)/ge;

    $status = "ERR database error";
    my $sth = query_db($user) || next;
    $status = "ERR unknown login";
    my $row = $sth->fetchrow_arrayref() || next;
    $status = "ERR login failure";
    next if (!check_password($password, @$row[0]));
    $status = "OK";
} continue {
    close_db() if (!$persist);
    print $status . "\n";
}

but not really getting how I am supposed to supply user and password here

[keen burrow]

Command line arguments?

[rotund python]

how inputed?

the plugin has mode persist that keeps connection open to db

I thought it could be launched and being in a loop forever I guess

if it would be working from CLI every time, it would not be able to keep db connection i think

[keen burrow]

Oh that's a web thing

[rotund python]

it is one of standard plugins for squid proxy servers

[keen burrow]

My guess would be the first and second path element?

[rotund python]

nah, already tried

root@536f60a0d7fa:/usr/lib/squid# /usr/lib/squid/basic_db_auth --debug --user postgres --password you-did-not-see-my-password-right --plaintext --dsn "DBI:Pg:database=squid;host=65.21.247.39;port=5432" test pass
DEBUG1 warn at /usr/lib/squid/basic_db_auth line 137.
DEBUG1 printCan't open test: No such file or directory at /usr/lib/squid/basic_db_auth line 237.
Can't open pass: No such file or directory at /usr/lib/squid/basic_db_auth line 237.

[keen burrow]

I guess you should try to see what split does

[rotund python]

I was able to understand how print works. better than nothing. I can debug it at least

aha. I was able to find out

after launching the program, it just asks for

data = input()
user, password = data.split(" ")

if we will translate it to python

[keen burrow]

aah

[rotund python]

it gives me knowledge.... how to write my own plugin for squid now

for my custom auth

I can just write it in python now

with following the same contract

[somber belfry]

lol, what

Is this a test?

[jade bolt]

nope. just a copypasta

[somber belfry]

...okay

[autumn hornet]

did you seriously just redact your timezone?

[jade bolt]

yes

[elfin vine]

Lmao

[echo fern]

inb4 someone scans all your messages with a selfbot and estimates your timezone from your activity times

[hot schooner]

or github commit times

[jade bolt]

bruh

that'll be hard.

my active time is wide

[mental idol]

Accidentally found out it's not that hard and surprisingly accurate. Had a light metric capture bot on a friend's server for a bit. He was into DS more than me and it was... eye opening what assumptions he could make with seemingly useless data.

[echo fern]

math question: suppose you have a normal distribution on a circle - for example, the login times of a user (they are from 0 to 24 hours always). How'd you estimate the mean and variance of that distribution?

[mental idol]

I... umm... I can build ways to gather the data

I'm a totally dunce when it comes to doing actual math though.

But just because it's a circle, wouldn't really change mapping it, would it? Just cut the circle between hour 0 and 24, lay it out on a axis, and chart the data. Then you're just doing means and variance magics.... right?

[echo fern]

Yeah, but how? Like, suppose the real mean is around midnight. That means half the points are going to be at the beginning of a day (0 hours or so) and half at the end (23-24 hours). So if you take the mean, you'll get a mean of 12 hours, which is the wrongest answer possible.

[mental idol]

Hmm.. I see the point. I wonder if you have to expand the hours then. instead of 24, chart it 0-168 so you have the entire week. (or 120 for a work week). I dunno, bet there's some "Oh you just use this" data science answer.

No, expanding the hours wouldn't work..

[echo fern]

The solution is googling, apparently
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wrapped_normal_distribution

though the Parameter Estimation section seems a bit concerning

[mental idol]

haha, I was googling as well but didn't know the terms to search for

[echo fern]

the answer is apparently something along the lines of

Arg(mean(exp(i*time/24*2*pi) for time in times))

except that it's a biased estimator

[mental idol]

So, short answer: von Mises distribution. Deep answer: the application of this is still just probability theory and a very tough cookie to dunk.

Freaking math... this stuff is fantastically amazing

[echo fern]

oh, found a nice more general answer: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circular_mean

[jade bolt]

wait are you really trying to get someone's messages and grab his timezone

[jovial island]

anyone know how download zoom recordings ?

[hazy laurel]

Dunno how legal that'd be lol

[jovial island]

lmao okay fair

[somber belfry]

you need screen recording permissions for that

An admin can grant it to you

[jovial island]

okay thanks

[shadow elk]

@languid osprey I tried PureScript, feels like I need a PhD to use Halogen

[languid osprey]

Hello

[languid osprey]

lmao

I've been learning it, its pretty nice so far

It looks very daunting though

[shadow elk]

the type system is nice, but the ecosystem has very little documentation, and the libraries/frameworks are complicated

[languid osprey]

Indeed

Elixir has a decent bit of documentation

and F# has microsoft docs

[somber belfry]

damn

[full marlin]

i like bodyweight stuff

https://youtu.be/dLNt0B10Uhk

this stuff is killer

[civic plank]

oh god, i have a love hate relationship with HIIT workouts

it's great for your body and heart, but on the other hand i wanna feel like i wanna die after a HIIT workout

[full marlin]

i like them i find them fun

[steel eagle]

Lmfao since your pfp is blank I thought that was aboo posting it

[civic plank]

aboo doesnt have a blank pfp

[daring jay]

Ovicron's pfp isn't blank

[civic plank]

im mining ur discord >:D

[daring jay]

Are you on Amoled or something?

[civic plank]

or lightmode discord? D:

[steel eagle]

Oh I'm using the OLED theme

So it's blank

[civic plank]

oh haha

interesting

[autumn hornet]

That's interesting - could you elaborate?

[mental idol]

Given minimal data on # of messages per hour, # of words in each message, and a few other seeming harmless data points tied to a user_id my friend was able to map activity surprisingly accurately. Right down to likely meal times, work hours, and sleep hours. Data sciences... I tell you... evil geniuses of our day

[autumn hornet]

That's awesome

[mental idol]

Certainly opened my eyes a little to what I thought was harmless logging

[autumn hornet]

That's really awesome

How did their methodology work?

[sterile nymph]

I don't believe in 7 billions persons existing

[mental idol]

If I knew I'd probably be in a different field of work I never really dug into how they modeled data.

[autumn hornet]

Do you have their discord? I'm going to run this over my own messages.

[mental idol]

The discord in question no longer exists. I wrote the logs, using discord.py. It was just grabbing user_id and parsing details of the message. Active hours, if I recall, was just a list with 24 ints. Increment the # depending on the hour in UTC.

[autumn hornet]

uh huh. what was their methodology though?

What was the data structure for # of words in each message, and what were the other data points?

[sterile nymph]

not terminal?

[jade bolt]

damn aboo is saying "Hello" but not "Hi :D"

[wide totem]

wow @grim seal disabling dms smh

😔

[grim seal]

lol

[wide totem]

anyways I tried to reply to you but couldn't so

[grim seal]

trying to keep stuff in server

helps me keep track of things

[wide totem]

ah

never talks to joe again

[grim seal]

lol

[steel eagle]

life is finally catching up to him and he's no longer so happy

[jade bolt]

when aboo meets moderators he feels worse

that's why

[steel eagle]

Are you saying he's a rule breaker

[jade bolt]

perhaps

[steel eagle]

oofer nanners

[echo fern]

the years are getting to him 😔

[jade bolt]

😔

[ornate scroll]

probably school

it was my first day today

pretty cool tho crowded af

[errant basin]

@hollow heart Hi, I was talking about taking notes, the problem is that is an Udemy programming "class"

[hollow heart]

ah so it's online

[errant basin]

And I want to have my notes with examples, code, etc...

[hollow heart]

which course?

[errant basin]

https://www.udemy.com/course/universidad-python-desde-cero-hasta-experto-django-flask-rest-web/?couponCode=GM_AGOSTO

[hollow heart]

i think actually writing the code will probably be more productive than writing traditional "notes," so whatever tool you choose, jupyter notebook, pycharm, might be fine. i'd go with jupyter

[errant basin]

This one

[hollow heart]

ah nvm then so not super simple

the course will probably give some guidance or recommendations on what tools to install i would think (hope)

did you already register ?

[errant basin]

Yes, but i'll work with Pycharm in this case

And for taking notes, i'll probably use Jupyter

But my question was if is a good use to work with Jupyter for taking notes?

Or what is its principal objective?

[hollow heart]

no i feel like that's probably not gonna be beneficial really

[errant basin]

why?

[hollow heart]

the principal objective of jupyter isn't for note taking, it's for writing and running python code

maybe the name confused you bc it's called jupyter notebook?

[errant basin]

I know, but my idea is taking important notes with examples (code)

[hollow heart]

yeah, ok then i think you can do that

[errant basin]

could be

[hollow heart]

but if you're also writing code in pycharm that in and of itself should become a reference tool for you to look at later

[errant basin]

But I was looking for tutorials and I saw that is like having a notebook and a IDE in the same app

[hollow heart]

yes, do you qualify for a free educational license ? requirements are here https://www.jetbrains.com/community/education/#students i know you said you were a student but do you have like a .edu email?

[errant basin]

Yes, I have it

[errant basin]

So should I take notes w jupyter?

[hollow heart]

then you can get pycharm professional for free and will be able to use jupyter notebook with pycharm

i really can't definitively say yes or no, but once you actually start the class it will become clear to you the best way to proceed. you may find you don't need separate note taking at all since you're learning by doing

is this a class with exams and stuff at the end?

if not, i wouldn't really take notes tbh. when does the course start ?

[errant basin]

I'm not sure

[hollow heart]

uhh definitely find out, it should be in the course description, but i can only was english

[errant basin]

I can take the course whenever I want

[errant basin]

there's no exams

[hollow heart]

ok just start the course then- usually the instructors will give guidance on what tools you need

[errant basin]

My problem is that I don't want to create a project only for:

x = lambda a : a + 10
print(x(5))

[errant basin]

The idea of taking notes is mine

[errant basin]

u know

[hollow heart]

correct you would not want a project for every single thing you learn

you create 1 project directory, with multiple files within

[errant basin]

So what should I do?

[hollow heart]

even multiple directories within

how much python have you done so far? this isn't your first time is it?

[errant basin]

Not really

I've done a tic-tac-toe game

But i want to learn from basics to advance

[hollow heart]

so you have python installed and pycharm installed? then there's nothing more to do, start the course

[errant basin]

Yes

[hollow heart]

and if you find that it's too beyond your skill level (like impossibly hard, and too much of a challenge), find an easier course to try. or try some more independent beginner-level projects

[errant basin]

And how can I save class notes and examples?

Or is it not necessary

[hollow heart]

i think it won't be necessary, but you won't know until.....:...,,,,,..... you start the course 😂

[errant basin]

So I should work with one file and writing examples on it

[hollow heart]

no you can make multiple files if you want

you should do what makes sense according to the instruction you get

[errant basin]

I don't have an instruction

[errant basin]

.

[hollow heart]

did you start the course ??

like the videos?

[errant basin]

Not yet

[hollow heart]

by "instructions" i mean what the course teacher will tell you once you start the actual course

[errant basin]

To conclude, I think I should take notes with Jupyter if it's necessary

[errant basin]

what do u think?

[hollow heart]

yes 😂 please start the course and let me know after your first 3 days

i'm curious what you end up doing

[errant basin]

Someone said "No unless if its Data Structures/algorithms class"

[hollow heart]

start
the
class.
then
you
will
know.
i promise!

[errant basin]

Idk what I'll do

[errant basin]

But give examples plz

For example

[magic atlas]

@errant basin When it comes to getting set up, I think it's a case of "perfect is the enemy of perfectly adequate".

[errant basin]

paper and pencil, jupyter, etc...

[magic atlas]

So I would just use whatever tools get the job done and not worry about it too much.

The simplest thing to do would be to write code in a text editor, and take separate notes with paper and pencil.

[errant basin]

So, finally, should I use Jupyter? or it's better to take notes with other tools

[errant basin]

mmmmm I'll think about the possibility of use it

[magic atlas]

By all means try out Jupyter if you want to, but don't get too distracted by trying to have the perfect set up.

[errant basin]

But is it a correct way to use it?

[magic atlas]

You need three things:

• A program to edit code in.
• A way to run code.
• A means to take class-notes that aren't code.

I suppose one benefit of Jupyter is that it combines all three of these.

But you might find it overwhelming to try to learn to use Jupyter and learn to program at the same time.

[hollow heart]

@magic atlas this is the class btw

[errant basin]

But I think I'll have to use Jupyter, and there's no better way to learn it that taking notes, don't u think?

[errant basin]

why taking notes depends of the class?

[hollow heart]

in my opinion, no, note taking is not greatly beneficial for learning how to code, especially in a guided class like you're trying to take

[magic atlas]

I don't see any mention of Jupyter on that course.

[magic atlas]

And yeah, I agree with this actually.

[errant basin]

I mean, in the future if I want to work with data science

[hollow heart]

i might be wrong, you can tell me after you complete 3 days of the course. i'm very curious to hear your thoughts on this after you actually start

[magic atlas]

Oh right. I say cross that bridge when you come to it.

[errant basin]

why

[magic atlas]

Programming is a kind of learning-by-doing subject.

[hollow heart]

bc coding concepts are learned and understood by doing & repeating

[errant basin]

So should I don't take notes?

[errant basin]

Yeah, I'm totally agree with u

[hollow heart]

you're not learning computer science, theory, etc. if you were, more rigorous note-taking would probably be beneficial as well as lots of reading.

[magic atlas]

Do lots of programming exercises, and use the course material itself as your notes if you need to remind yourself of something.

And actually, on the editor front, a great option for beginners is Thonny: https://thonny.org

You can move on to a more advanced editor later.

[errant basin]

When u say course material do you mean the class' videos?

[sharp spoke]

notes are beneficial yes.. but quite a lot of times the programs you write.. with good code and commenting they act as good future reference....
as for theory.. yes for theoretical parts you might need to make separate notes

[errant basin]

I'm actually working with Pycharm

[magic atlas]

Alright 👍

[magic atlas]

Yep, and any written notes they provide.

[errant basin]

Okey, I'll do it

Thank u guys :3

[hollow heart]

i want an update after 3 days!!! 😂 i was serious

[errant basin]

why? hahahaha

It is a simple course hahaha

[hollow heart]

bc now i'm invested in your journey

[errant basin]

Journey of how should I take notes

hahahahaha

[hollow heart]

yes lmaoooo

just, don't forget about me mk

[magic atlas]

!remind @hollow heart "3 days" #ot2-the-original-pubsta message

[clever salmon]

ROGER THAT

Your reminder will arrive <t:1629603515:R> and will mention 1 other(s)!

ID: 2827

[magic atlas]

Sorry should have done:

!remind @errant basin "3 days" #ot2-the-original-pubsta message

[clever salmon]

Can do!

Your reminder will arrive <t:1629603582:R> and will mention 1 other(s)!

ID: 2828

[hollow heart]

double reminders

[sharp spoke]

wait actually i remembered to ask this.. did they add functionality of deleting python messages which are replies to non staffers from channels except help and botcommands?

[hollow heart]

we better not forget

[magic atlas]

I really need to get better at using commands

[errant basin]

me too :((

[sharp spoke]

or make a poll 😄

[magic atlas]

I don't know. I may have deleted them manually to hide my shame 👀

[sharp spoke]

well perhaps.. but i noticed it quite a few times.. hopefully no mod is mad enough at me to find all python messages to me and delete em 👀

[errant basin]

cu guys✌️

[median blade]

👀

[cedar turtle]

althoughO(n^n) actually grows faster than O(n!) but ok

[dusky cliff]

lol

is there any algorithm which is n^n

[sharp spoke]

the one you used for arrangement of 0,1 ?

[dusky cliff]

?

[sharp spoke]

brute forcing this Q

[dusky cliff]

oh

think it was 2^n or something

not n^n

[sharp spoke]

hmm

[jade bolt]

b

[sharp spoke]

gotta give a read on big O notation again i think

[jade bolt]

random guess

[sharp spoke]

.... its not a mcq

also @dusky cliff where did you find such Q tho

[jade bolt]

ok

[dusky cliff]

past papers of some computer olympiad

i forgor which one

[cedar turtle]

brrr

[sharp spoke]

ahhh

never knew they were this good in india

[cedar turtle]

wot

[sharp spoke]

UCO is shitbox

[sharp spoke]

computer olympiad questions

[cedar turtle]

i mean, in most countries they are tough

im gonna make a O(n^n) program

[sharp spoke]

hmm makes sense.. the only major olympiad i have heard of of cs in india is UCO.. why is not really a computer olympiad.. pretty bad

[dusky cliff]

print numbers from 1 to n^n

[cedar turtle]

boi

[dusky cliff]

ez n^n question

[sharp spoke]

:jawdrop:

[cedar turtle]

i was thinking about dynamically constructing n loops each iterating from 1 to n

nested

why am i so dumb

[dusky cliff]

n = int(input()); print(*range(1, n**n + 1))

lolz

[cedar turtle]

TypeError ;)

[dusky cliff]

?

[cedar turtle]

no

[dusky cliff]

dunno what you're talking about

🤔

[sharp spoke]

print(*range(1,(lambda _:_**_)(int(input()),1))

[cedar turtle]

yes hsp your are always right

[dusky cliff]

+ 1*

[cedar turtle]

lispython

[dusky cliff]

i cursed zip some more zip = lambda* _: map(lambda* __:__ ,* _)

[cedar turtle]

ah yes a lambda pointer

[dusky cliff]

of course

[sharp spoke]

my eyes

[cedar turtle]

go visit r/eyebleach

to cleanse your soul

[dusky cliff]

this is the eyebleach

[cedar turtle]

its the opposite of eyebleach

[sharp spoke]

thanks

[sharp spoke]

more like eye acid

[cedar turtle]

more like eye concentrated sulfuric acid with 10% hydrogen peroxide

[sharp spoke]

interesting mix

[cedar turtle]

it has a cool name

piranha solution

[sharp spoke]

has eivl slept and forgotten to turn of discord and pycharm?

[cedar turtle]

perfect for washing away evidence

[cedar turtle]

mayhaps

[sharp spoke]

...... too much hollywood movies?

[cedar turtle]

real life experience umm, yes officer

[sharp spoke]

or maybe pulling an all nighter :sad:

[cedar turtle]

:sad: indeed

[sharp spoke]

fuck am scared oh okay np go ahead

[cedar turtle]

ok

[real forum]

Really? This isn't bad at all

[dusky cliff]

which is why its eyebleach

[steel eagle]

WHAT DOES THIS EVEN DO

[cedar turtle]

eyebleach means its pleasant to see

[dusky cliff]

yes

[cedar turtle]

yes

i hate integration by parts

it sucks

it must be abolished

partial fractions suck too

[dusky cliff]

in case you ever wanted a zip which works exactly like the builtin zip, look no further

[dusky cliff]

lol

[cedar turtle]

chads use di method

fuck integration by parts

me and my homies hate it

[dusky cliff]

isnt the di method just

integration by parts

[cedar turtle]

yes

but its superior

than that pathetic excuse of that formula

[dusky cliff]

lol ok

[cedar turtle]

why the fuck would you remember that shitty ass formula

problem is the fucking schools wont accept the di method

fuck the schools

they want the formula

[dusky cliff]

lol

no one cares what formula you use in competitives

[cedar turtle]

ye

schools dont accept l'hopital rule in exams but i abuse the ever living fuck out of that rule in competitve exams

i will even differentiate 4 fucking times to get the answer

l'hopital is bae

[dusky cliff]

true

[cedar turtle]

and taylor expansions are bae

[sharp spoke]

using notepad for coding be like

[cedar turtle]

except for the fact i can't rember them 😔

[cedar turtle]

ewwww

[sharp spoke]

no eww.. use manipulation

[cedar turtle]

you could've atleast used idle

[sharp spoke]

worse

[sharp spoke]

notepad + winterm is bae

[cedar turtle]

bruh lmao imagine using manipulation when you can l'hoptial that sucker in 1 step

[jade bolt]

use idle

you can set custom themes

[cedar turtle]

you must be that guy who remembers formulae when you can l'hoptial every single question

[sharp spoke]

well i use lhopital too.. but manipulation gives feeling of power

[sharp spoke]

no dw i dont

[cedar turtle]

by all means, if you want to suffer, use manipulation

[sharp spoke]

that reminds me i hate integration

[cedar turtle]

who loves integration tho

[sharp spoke]

and i have a test tomorrow

fml

[cedar turtle]

hmm

wolfram alpha is there to the rescue

[sharp spoke]

on integration purely

[cedar turtle]

i suck at u subs

i use t as the substituting variable wbu

[sharp spoke]

eh well i dont like to copy.. but if its graded test i might

[cedar turtle]

damn bro

honest guy? thats super rare

[sharp spoke]

if its not graded who tf cares

[cedar turtle]

that makes sense too

[sharp spoke]

well more like i dont like doing esy things.. i have supplied a lot of answers in offline schooling

but in online just doesnt feel the same

[cedar turtle]

whats the integral of secx

ln(cosx) or ln(sinx)?

[sharp spoke]

ln(sin x)

[cedar turtle]

wit

[sharp spoke]

no wait

[cedar turtle]

isn't it ln(cos(x))

[sharp spoke]

sec right

[cedar turtle]

wait

[sharp spoke]

sec integral is ln(|secx + tanx|)

[cedar turtle]

bruh

[sharp spoke]

it is

[cedar turtle]

yeah

[sharp spoke]

with a mod tho

[cedar turtle]

who cares about the mod

mods suck

[sharp spoke]

my teachers do

[sharp spoke]

@Moderators

[cedar turtle]

bruh due to these fucking mods there are 2 or 3 cases to solve in an equation

gotta open with a plus, gotta open with a minus

fuck mods

[cedar turtle]

no

not that mod

|x| this mod

[sharp spoke]

yes

similar

[sharp spoke]

i cant believe my cs teacher doin 30 line code for this

[cedar turtle]

what...

send that abomination pls

we gotta see it

[sharp spoke]

oh nvm

[cedar turtle]

bruh

[sharp spoke]

she merged it with few more things

but they used csv module for it 😔

[cedar turtle]

ultra bruh momento

[sharp spoke]

dont ask me.. school be weird

[cedar turtle]

ok bai 👋

[sharp spoke]

bai

[jade bolt]

wait what.

people already started school

[autumn hornet]

post it mate

[sharp spoke]

mate i am halfway through it

[jade bolt]

ok

am going to use my tts thingy to show off if online class continues

[sharp spoke]

lmao

[jovial island]

yeah nah yeah that's not me.

[jade bolt]

idk

[jovial island]

uhm:(

alright, you didnt see that alright? @jade bolt

[jade bolt]

no

[jovial island]

great

[jade bolt]

i did see that

[jovial island]

wtf

hush alright

[dusky cliff]

no

@jade bolt what did you see

🔫

[jade bolt]

i clion

[jovial island]

he saw nothing

[jade bolt]

i might accidentally found your face

should i delete dat nessage

[jovial island]

i anyways had my face as dp here before a while

yeah nah im fine. I'm not much worried 'bout that.

[jade bolt]

ok

[vale egret]

ok

[normal quartz]

annie, are you ok

[sharp spoke]

is anyone ok?

[jade bolt]

no

[pliant trench]

I hate this gun, it looks a water gun lol

[jade bolt]

it is. a water gun

[pliant trench]

it isn't supposed to be a water gun

[lucid osprey]

wot

[jade bolt]

it is supposed to be a water gun

[lucid osprey]

Pretty sure its a water gun m8.

[jade bolt]

the actual gun got banned because unicode doesn't liek it

[pliant trench]

https://tenor.com/view/friends-joey-tribbiani-matt-le-blanc-what-omg-gif-15947150

[lucid osprey]

look at the colour and the trigger

[jade bolt]

*perhaps parents don't and they force unicode to make it water gun

[pliant trench]

it isn't a water gun on linux

and it shouldn't imo

[lucid osprey]

what difference does os make here?

[jade bolt]

it is 100% intended

Originally depicted as a classic handgun, as a revolver or other pistol. In 2016, Apple switched its design from weapon to toy; other major vendors followed suit by 2018. Deprecated emoji sets or smaller platforms still display the emoji as a handgun.

blame apple

[pliant trench]

lol

what

[dusky cliff]

yeah its a water gun by design

[pliant trench]

https://tenor.com/view/sure-ok-if-you-say-so-awkward-gif-16902757

[sharp spoke]

so what does it look like on linux?

[pliant trench]

can't take a pic now, not on linux

[sharp spoke]

ah

make aboo send

[pliant trench]

@languid osprey do it

[somber belfry]

it's a water gun on linux too

since that's a discord default emoji

\🔫

🔫

[pliant trench]

hmmm

I was wrong then

but linux one seems more powerful 💪

[jovial island]

vivekanand 😛 @somber belfry

[tranquil ridge]

interesting

[pliant trench]

lolll

that looks like a colt

so it's a gun! haha

[somber belfry]

it depends on your font

[tranquil ridge]

how do i install an emoji font

[somber belfry]

yes???