I can flush any site from cloudflare too
#ot2-the-original-pubsta
keen burrow
Now I really want to setup my own nameserver, well done
wide totem
joe's already done that i think
keen burrow
Ye
grim seal
yeah it's more a decentralised resolution system, it's just "keep trying until you get to the right result", you could infinitely return nameservers and add on a subdomains each time (up to 128 iirc)
grim seal
Ask the roots, roots ask the TLDs (your registrar pushes that to the TLD), ask your root NS, if it knows it'll tell you otherwise it'll delegate to another NS and so on
not a bad idea
yeah you can walk anything you desire
wide totem
hm
keen burrow
So if I want to make my DNS server I just query the root server and let it do its thing?
wide totem
afk, working on documenting current features of modmail bot :)
tldr: currently loads plugins, very well
tribal tinsel
@grim seal since you're here... what do you want for your bd? ๐
grim seal
DNS is "I have the answer, or I know who does"
wide totem
so, Joe wants DNS.
tribal tinsel
Joe has DNS already :c
grim seal
mobile signal exploding
keen burrow
DNS is "I have the answer, or I know who does"
Oh so you walk up the domain chain yourself?
wide totem
joe wants all the DNS
grim seal
So if I want to make my DNS server I just query the root server and let it do it...
yeah you can do, you can also download the root zone and skip asking the root nameservers
grim seal
Oh so you walk up the domain chain yourself?
wellll
if you are implementing a recursive resolver, yeah
keen burrow
I need to find a flowchart somewhere
grim seal
you presumably use something like 1.1.1.1 or 8.8.8.8 or 9.9.9.9 which does that recursion for you
keen burrow
What if I am 1.1.1.1 though
tribal tinsel
so, Joe wants DNS.
I think I need to bug joe on priv, because he's now focused on dns that he didn't even notice my question
keen burrow
Once Joe started on networking you can't stop him
wide totem
yeah
wide totem
What if I am 1.1.1.1 though
it does that recursion for you
keen burrow
Who is doing it?
wide totem
and most domain registiars run their own DNS servers I think*
grim seal
<@!165023948638126080> since you're here... what do you want for your bd? ๐
crikey, no idea, I've got a thinkpad from parents so just keeping it fairly small this year
hahah sorry Nicky my mobile signal is just awful
grim seal
What if I am 1.1.1.1 though
you do the root zone recursion, so you either serve from your cache or revalidate by asking the root NS (or your own copy of the root zone) and trailing down
so from a recursive resolver you'll never get a NS record (or... shouldn't hahaha)
generally resolvers use QNAME minimisation nowadays which means that instead of asking the root for PythonDiscord.com. you ask just for com. because privacy!!!
grim seal
Who is doing it?
the recursive resolver does it, so the Cloudflare server does the recursion
grim seal
and most domain registiars run their own DNS servers I think*
yep, a TLD operator (registry! not registrar) runs an NS
keen burrow
you do the root zone recursion, so you either serve from your cache or revalidat...
So like if I want to access net.akarys.me I would like ask the root servers for the me ns, which will give me the akarys.me ns, which will give me net.akarys.me?
Assuming akarys.me is a custom ns and can't be served directly by me or some shit like that
grim seal
So like if I want to access `net.akarys.me` I would like ask the root servers fo...
yeah
keen burrow
That's cool
grim seal
sometimes companies run their own NSs like ns1.company.tld which uses glue which is so cool! but even more wild
wide totem
LOL
LOLOL
tomorrow: sunset
today: github actions fails to work
I think its related.
wide totem
sometimes companies run their own NSs like ns1.company.tld which uses glue which...
why does python discord not do this yet smh
grim seal
why does python discord not do this yet smh
Pay for my Cloudflare enterprise
grim seal
lmfao
wide totem
and even offer "if you ever want access to our source code, let us know"
ooh
ian just fixed the other bug ๐
nimble umbra
how to host python bot from repl it 24/7
lucid osprey
how to host python bot from repl it 24/7
skip to the last part https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPTfmiYiuok
pliant trench
this is a great feature
cuz you're too weak xD
jk
it's not available in this server/channel
jade bolt
probably not. i think you can switch to ipv6
tribal tinsel
there's no such thing as "machine ip address". machines don't have ip on their own, they have mac addresses (or rather their network cards have them), also called physical address.
IP is a property of a device in network, one device can have many ip addresses or none.
ipv4 is IP version 4
devout ingot
there's no such thing as "machine ip address". machines don't have ip on their o...
where did you learn such stuff? I would like to know too but idk where to start
tribal tinsel
where did you learn such stuff? I would like to know too but idk where to start
Cisco CCNA materials but at times it's boring/old stuff...
rigid echo
@languid osprey How can I save a init.vim file?
lucid osprey
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/789198156218892358/875031457054208010/dou...
run the code overnight ๐
tranquil ridge
could probably go NaN
cedar turtle
could probably go NaN
why? everything's bounded right?
tranquil ridge
yeah theres no damping, but its possible that angular acceleration goes out of control
cedar turtle
the ke is going to be converted into potential energy
dusky cliff
ye
wheat aurora
@jovial island Please don't post random memes here. This isn't the server for that.
pliant trench
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/789198156218892358/875031457054208010/dou...
what is this
sinful sun
a double pendulum
pliant trench
did you make it ?
tranquil ridge
yes
tranquil ridge
code? lol
pliant trench
I don't really understand that formula lol
tranquil ridge
the drawing is in raylib c++
pliant trench
oh not python?
tranquil ridge
nop
pliant trench
How did you import that formula in code
tranquil ridge
double p1Acc = -g * (2.0 * m1 + m2) * sin(t1);
p1Acc = p1Acc - g * m2 * sin(t1 - 2.0 * t2);
p1Acc = p1Acc - 2.0 * m2 * v2 * v2 * l2 * sin(t1 - t2);
p1Acc = p1Acc - m2 * v1 * v1 * l1 * sin(2.0 * (t1 - t2));
p1Acc = p1Acc / (l1 * (2.0 * m1 + m2 - m2 * cos(2.0 * (t1 - t2))));
double p2Acc = (m1 + m2) * l1 * v1 * v1;
p2Acc = p2Acc + g * (m1 + m2) * cos(t1);
p2Acc = p2Acc + v2 * v2 * l2 * m2 * cos(t1 - t2);
p2Acc = p2Acc * 2.0 * sin(t1 - t2);
p2Acc = p2Acc / (l2 * (2.0 * m1 + m2 - m2 * cos(2.0 * (t1 - t2))));```calculates angular acceleration
you add that to angular velocity
which is added to the angle
and then that is converted into coordinates
and that would be the position of both the pendulums in the next frame
lucid osprey
damn
pliant trench
oh
jovial island
now spawn 100 with slightly different initial conditions
tranquil ridge
lol
tranquil ridge
no
dusky cliff
ok
dusky cliff
ok
median blade
:p
jade walrus
Out of context, this would sound really weird
languid osprey
<@!416345453530054657> How can I save a init.vim file?
in?
rigid echo
neovim
median blade
bruh
lunar basin
lol, classic
slate leaf
I think this is the first time I have seen "how to exit vim" in the wild
quasi spire
exotic hound
what is the purpose of swapping two variables?
lunar basin
sometimes you have to
lunar basin
sorting a list in place
lapis python
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgjMAMwbxIY
holy shit
i love this version of paparazzi
civic plank
same lol. definitely great for a heavy lift
civic plank
the one i linked is the looped tiktok version, there is this full version
this one does contain a heavy metal part
its like a mix of heavy metal and pop
tawdry salmon
I love the misspell in the channel name lmao
steel eagle
now that's how you spell vivek's name
fresh reef
```cpp
double p1Acc = -g * (2.0 * m1 + m2) * sin(t1);
p1...
e
what
there isnt a prefix!!!!!
dark magic asf
rigid echo
`:w` is save
Cool.
vocal acorn
I love overengineering things
I turned
print(00000)
print(00000)
into
twodPrint = []
y = 0
xLen = 5
yLen = 2
printLine = ''
for i in range(yLen):
twodPrint.append([])
for x in range(xLen):
twodPrint[i].append(0)
for x in twodPrint:
for i in x:
printLine += str(i)
print(printLine)
printLine = ''
sharp spoke
yall ever feel like if you had a topic to make something on it is easy... but if you are made to decide the topic it is harder
wheat rock
in 90% cases i have a plot
sharp spoke
in 90% cases i have a plot
i am talking about cbse project ๐
wheat rock
so i just begin the process of how are we going to do this rather than what are we gonna do
sharp spoke
for cs
sharp spoke
i have no clue what to make
wheat rock
using python right
sharp spoke
if just choosing topic was easy
sharp spoke
~~using python right~~
yeah
wheat rock
imports are allowed?
sharp spoke
most of the things i have made already are rule 5 grey area.. so not allowed ๐
sharp spoke
imports are allowed?
yeah something using sql connectivity
sharp spoke
as a fall out plan i might make library management system
wheat rock
but its just everyone makes the same thing
exactly
make something which makes you different
but the constraint is sql
lol
sharp spoke
i mean anything with data storage
median blade
i would love to cancel vivek
sharp spoke
using csv is allowed too
odd sphinx
i would love to cancel vivek
@somber belfry
sharp spoke
i am not in mood to learn GUI just for some project :/
wheat rock
end key + V I V E K
median blade
i am not in mood to learn GUI just for some project :/
tis fun trust me
start with tkinter
sharp spoke
zee, dhz what class are you?
wheat rock
zee is 11
wheat rock
dhz is 12 ++
median blade
yes
median blade
yes
wheat rock
100% sure
somber belfry
i would love to cancel vivek
median blade
what did you do for stupid shank projects.. ๐
what that
wheat rock
what did you do for stupid shank projects.. ๐
what is the dealine
somber belfry
<@!562601836591185930>
Thank you for the report! We will take appropriate actions against the user.
median blade
Indeed!
rustic harborBOT
Make a banGER prOJeCT , ThIS is thE tIMe To show yoUR PyDiS eXperIencE SkIlLS
sharp spoke
what is the dealine
oct mid i think.. would prefer to finish by sept end tho
anyways i dont think it will take more than a week or 2 tho
wheat rock
wow thats too much
wheat rock
wot they are asking for science as well
wheat rock
so i would also be asked to do these in 12th fuck
median blade
you passed 12th right?
yes
sharp spoke
wot they are asking for science as well
they ask for everything... ๐
median blade
i had no sci reports or whatever
sharp spoke
i had no sci reports or whatever
whoa how long ago did you pass em
median blade
this year
north cedar
Is C the basis for all programming languages
sharp spoke
only for chem and comp
well similar.. they are making us do the phy one too (even if it is cancelled)
median blade
heh
median blade
Thank you for the report! We will take appropriate actions against the user.
uncomfy agrees
median blade
well comp is easy
wheat rock
/shrug
somber belfry
#CancekVivek 
median blade
chem i did some food adulteration bs
sharp spoke
well comp is easy
choosing a good topic is not.. my only problem ๐
wheat rock
lol
sharp spoke
chem i did some food adulteration bs
huh that seems good enough topic.. environmental right?
wheat rock
i would go for a database handler with kivy
median blade
um for comp i did hospital database management or some shit heh
i was a total noob in py back then
wheat rock
learning py via school
median blade
huh that seems good enough topic.. environmental right?
uhh what do you mean by environmental
wheat rock
weird days
sharp spoke
i was a total noob in py back then
i am yet so wont be much of a problem
sharp spoke
uhh what do you mean by environmental
environmental chem chapter?
sharp spoke
i honestly dont remember half the stuff they teachin us
wheat rock
environmental chem chapter?
last chapter of 11th chem lol
sharp spoke
idk, saw some previous year projs, copied some stuff etc
they cancelled projects for our senior batch.. and the only elder school mates i know are from that batch :luck:
median blade
why do those chapters exist
wheat rock
to waste our productive
median blade
they cancelled projects for our senior batch.. and the only elder school mates i...
my batch 
sharp spoke
i have a question of why does chem as a whole exist... but okay
sharp spoke
my batch <:SunglassesFluent:865333167477096458>
cool
uh just in case if you have some prev yr projects.. could you send to refer?
median blade
all projects are in school
i did a study on chili, pepper, sugar, turmeric, oil adulteration
jovial island
#ot2-the-original-pubsta yes!!!
sharp spoke
we need to multiply 1/vivek with vivek
vivekinverse
vivekin sounds like a badass anakin copy from a poorly funded indian starwars
cedar turtle
lmao
median blade
lmao
hazy laurel
vivekin sounds like a badass anakin copy from a poorly funded indian starwars
vivek-kun \๐ฉ
dusky cliff
vivek-chan ๐ณ
somber belfry
okay, what the fuck is going on
odd sphinx
yes
dusk ledge
this teach lead guy lmaooo
I wish he was just playing a character. Feels like it is a real guy
jade bolt
okay, what the fuck is going on
vivek-kek 
(i don't have the kek emoji :()
echo flower
you know
i want to test the invite protection
to see if it is idiot proof
anybody wanna be my guinea pig?
jade bolt
i want to test the invite protection
sure ask modmail for advertisment ๐
cedar turtle
i have 0 infractions im squeeky clean
jade bolt
thats bad
cedar turtle
mods pls infract me
jade bolt
everyone knows more infractions are better
cedar turtle
ye
dusky cliff
i have 0 infractions im squeeky clean
haha what a nerd
jade bolt
ask akarys how many infractions he had
daring jay
*he
cedar turtle
ask akarys how many infractions he had
wait.. akarys is female??
jade bolt
no
dusky cliff
no
tranquil ridge
no
cedar turtle
no
daring jay
akarys is male
dusky cliff
unless he has been lying to us ๐ค
jade bolt
its super keyboard super auto correction sorry about that
jade bolt
unless he has been lying to us ๐ค
*she
dusky cliff
fascinating
tranquil ridge
unless he has been lying to us ๐ค
akarysi ๐ค
cedar turtle
Moderators, I am humbly requesting you to provide me with an infraction such that I no longer have 0 infractions and thus escaping the liability of being called a nerd by Lord HSP
jade bolt
_Moderators, I am humbly requesting you to provide me with an infraction such th...
tell modmail
echo flower
to see if it's idiot proof
cedar turtle
wow did you just call me a random dude
sorry hsp sama
echo flower
LMAO
dusky cliff
bruh
echo flower
it's not idiot proof ๐คฃ
dusky cliff
dont try it
jade bolt
i might test the infraction system
you can put your advertisment in modmail. i think mods will be advertised
cedar turtle
fixed it
echo flower
you can put your advertisment in modmail. i think mods will be advertised
you know.. I put the invite as "e" after the slash
daring jay
It deletes all server invites, besides those that are whitelisted server ids
jade bolt
It deletes all server invites, besides those that are whitelisted server ids
what about the python bot printing those invites
daring jay
wdym?
jade bolt
like if an user used the eval command to
cedar turtle
what about the python bot printing those invites
that wouldn't look too beautfiul
jade bolt
like if an user used the eval command to
or used sirlance bot randomcase
echo flower
now I have one infraction ๐คฃ
cedar turtle
like if an user used the eval command to
you can just put it in ``` ``` bruh
echo flower
yay
cedar turtle
how
jade bolt
.randomize discord.gg/python
cedar turtle
!user @echo flower
clever salmonBOT
You may not use this command on users other than yourself.
cedar turtle
bruh
wheat aurora
like if an user used the eval command to
it would still alert us that someone tried to post an unintended invite and then we would mute or possibly ban for someone continually try to bypass out filters
echo flower
hmmmm lmao
jade bolt
.randomcase discord.gg/python
rustic harborBOT
wheat aurora
@jade bolt you do realize our own server is whitelisted and that we escape it, right?
cedar turtle
this might be useful
jade bolt
<@!611418694245154847> you do realize our own server is whitelisted and that we ...
i know
i wont use other server links to
cedar turtle
.randomcase python is such a slow language
rustic harborBOT
pYtHoN IS such A SLOw LAngUaGE
jade bolt
because thats risky
echo flower
<@!611418694245154847> you do realize our own server is whitelisted and that we ...
it would be funney if it wasnt
jade bolt
.randomcase python is such a slow language
no
wheat aurora
But like I said, intentionally trying to bypass our filters will result in an infraction.
echo flower
But like I said, intentionally trying to bypass our filters will result in an in...
๐
cedar turtle
and he's intentionally trying to get a infraction lol
jade bolt
But like I said, intentionally trying to bypass our filters will result in an in...
can i bypass it privately and post it in issues if i find anything?
daring jay
With your own instance of the bot? Sure
echo flower
no infraction yet ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
cmon infract me
i need atleast one
then ill be a good boi
echo flower
lmao
dusky cliff
a bad joke
if bad jokes cost infractions you'd have more infractions
odd sphinx
i do have infractions
dusky cliff
you'd have more
echo flower
if bad jokes cost infractions you'd have more infractions
you know, like lim -> infinity
odd sphinx
no i have enough
clever salmonBOT
@cedar turtle :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.
True
mods pls no ban jus joke
odd sphinx
that was a bad joke
cedar turtle
yes
dusky cliff
yeah
jade bolt
!e ```py
women = object
print(women is object)
```
wait. how
odd sphinx
like
jade bolt
wtf is object
tranquil ridge
if bad jokes cost infractions you'd have more infractions
i dont make bad jokes then
odd sphinx
its just not laughable at
cedar turtle
!user
clever salmonBOT
You are not allowed to use that command here. Please use the #bot-commands channel instead.
dusky cliff
wtf is object
common base class for all objects
cedar turtle
everything in python is object
cedar turtle
literally everything
jade bolt
common base class for all objects
i know but is it some builtin function/class/whatever
echo flower
ow my eyes
cedar turtle
dont trust atoms, they make up everything
true m8
jade bolt
idk that thing is in python
echo flower
cedar turtle
idk that thing is in python
!e ```py
print(type(int))
print(type(type(int)))
@cedar turtle :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.
001 | <class 'type'>
002 | <class 'type'>
bro cringe
jade bolt
no
dusky cliff
?
cedar turtle
no
jade bolt
!e ```py
women = object
print(women is object)
```
in this code. wtf is object
jade bolt
no
echo flower
Did you hear about Oxygen's and Potassium's date? It went O-K
jade bolt
no
cedar turtle
modules are object
odd sphinx
when u do class Something: its actually class Something(object):
jade bolt
wtf is "object" in that code
odd sphinx
just a class
echo flower
lmao
dusky cliff
its a builtin
clever salmonBOT
@jade bolt :warning: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.
[No output]
:( i know too few
tranquil ridge
np bro
cedar turtle
EVERY SINGLE GODDAMN THING
jade bolt
everything is an object
actually no.
cedar turtle
actually no.
yes
dusky cliff
everything is an object
!e print(isinstance(all, object)) \๐
clever salmonBOT
@dusky cliff :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.
True
like i dont think if is object
cedar turtle
like i dont think `if` is object
if is not a thing
its a keyword
not a thing
thing is something you can do stuff with
jade bolt
i cant set keyword to object
somber belfry
now I have one infraction ๐คฃ
that..... is not an infraction
cedar turtle
for is not a thing
echo flower
that..... is not an infraction
realized 
cedar turtle
imagine having no infractions
somber belfry
I had no infractions
somber belfry
now I have 28
echo flower
now I have 28
O.o
cedar turtle
i was once the youngest person on this planet
jade bolt
i had more
than that
and all automutes are invalid
so uh
i only have 3 that are valid
somber belfry
automutes are infractions
jade bolt
;(
dusky cliff
i was once the youngest person on this planet
there are a few ways to go back to that state
slate leaf
!user
clever salmonBOT
You are not allowed to use that command here. Please use the #bot-commands channel instead.
slate leaf
No infractions for me (this is not a request for one btw)
echo flower
!user
clever salmonBOT
You are not allowed to use that command here. Please use the #bot-commands channel instead.
elfin vine
Any tips what error to raise if neither of two optional are passed?
round moss
generally, ValueError
elfin vine
Yeah I feel like that's the closest match, but still doesn't feel quite perfect
Python raises a TypeError if you don't pass a required positional argument though
elfin vine
!e ```py
def test(arg1, arg2):
return None
test(1)
@elfin vine :x: Your eval job has completed with return code 1.
001 | Traceback (most recent call last):
002 | File "<string>", line 4, in <module>
003 | TypeError: test() missing 1 required positional argument: 'arg2'
Just wanted to hear if anyone had any better ideas, otherwise I'd do that
sinful sun
Positional args arent optional tho?
echo flower
you could do function missing required optional argument: arg1 or arg2
elfin vine
Positional args arent optional tho?
My function has two optional kwargs, but one of them needs to be passed.
Positional arguments can be optional though, just give it a default
round moss
IG typeerror could also work
the function's type is a union of the two signatures and all that
rotund python
@round moss new meme then
I think my python habits will travel to another language though
I wonder how would they look like in golang
round moss
https://fasterthanli.me/articles/i-want-off-mr-golangs-wild-ride go is not exactly poised to take over
but it is definitely a good language to know
round moss
yeah, it is not all that significant for backend work
rotund python
yeah, it is not all that significant for backend work
Go doesn't have generics, simplicity is a lie, and error handling is crappy.
That makes me a bit worried
I mean, python with its nice try catch system... makes code essentially in a convinient way written...
...that makes logic really simple
we can just... jump straight to what we need, without making addiotional checks in advance. Better be sorry than over protecting
round moss
go can do that too
rotund python
really? cool.
round moss
just well, slightly verbose while doing it
and instead of getting an error, you get attempt to access nil
rotund python
I can catch different types of self made exceptions in golang too?
round moss
there are no exceptions
you return value, error tuples
if the error is non-null, sth went wrong
rotund python
well, I guess I'll try and see how it will go
steel eagle
I hate go syntax so much lol
round moss
that's the part I kind of like
round moss
it might get better, yeah
well, we shall see
I do not bet on go, but it also here to stay
docker and kubernetes are in go
and those technologies have an infinite lifetime
(unless podman decides to stop simping for systemd and makes kubernetes 2)
steel eagle
Well it would be an entirely new language if they changed enough to make me like it
round moss
I feel like one of nim Dlang V Julia ponylang will end up really important in the future
but well, which one, who knows
maybe haxe will get outside of gamedev
the real question is will we have JS singularity at some point
TS is really really good, and well, can you really improve on sharing code between frontend and backend
rotund python
TS is really really good, and well, can you really improve on sharing code betwe...
is it possible to jump to TS without having a hand of JS?
round moss
yes
rotund python
the real question is will we have JS singularity at some point
xD JS becoming like assembler for front
not the best looking assemble language.
but well, nothing stops it from being impossible
except for it being a bit bloating and slow
in its minimized state it takes not a lot of place I guess
or still a lot? hmm
clear gust
@round moss I think I might not use the Flex... seems like it will be difficult to get.
If over the next few days I can't get it I'll just go for the 1OCPU AMD one 
round moss
fair enough
clear gust
I think it's a 'real' availability problem btw
(as in I don't think they are just somehow magically making life hard for always-free use)
I can't even use the maxed out 80OCPU version which isn't free, since I have trial credits
daring jay
is it possible to jump to TS without having a hand of JS?
yes, but also no
because ts is essentially js
if you know ts, you know js
keen burrow
@jovial island i haven't cooled yet
dusky cliff
i need friends like that
odd sphinx
i remember when we were in 9th grade
and during talents day they were dancing to an epic song (epic at the time)
and the whole auditorium started shaking because we jumped in our seats in harmony
lucid osprey
damn
odd sphinx
fun times
lucid osprey
I wish my school was as enthusiastic
lucid osprey
the only 'fun' we have is during the picnic
dusky cliff
and the whole auditorium started shaking because we jumped in our seats in harmo...
resonance โ๏ธโผ๏ธ
lucid osprey
the only 'fun' we have is during the picnic
this year it was supposed to be an interstate travel but because of covid...
odd sphinx
:"(
lucid osprey
3 picnics gone
odd sphinx
bruh i found the song we were vibing to
lol
damn
why does this feel like it was 2 years ago
dusky cliff
missed opportunity for rickroll
odd sphinx
oh wait it was
odd sphinx
missed opportunity for rickroll
na
dusky cliff
ok
odd sphinx
too nostalgic rn bro 
lucid osprey
https://youtu.be/P7-xs4XF4CA
yooo
lilac vale
@frosty shore but thats blue-
frosty shore
<@!747612697054675064> but thats blue-
whats blue-
lilac vale
the box thingy around the python logo 
frosty shore
did oyu sample it fromt he discord logo
frosty shore
whats the hex code of it?
lilac vale
heres the color palette i used
frosty shore
bruh can you tell me the hex ๐ญ
lilac vale
yeah one sec
frosty shore
sex lol funny
lilac vale
#4c69f6
lilac vale
sex lol funny
typo ๐
frosty shore
WAIT GIVE ME THE PALLETE LINK
dusky cliff
epic branding @lilac vale
daring jay
^
lilac vale
thank you ๐
pale nova
INDEPENDENCE DAY AFTER 2 DAYS
jovial island
INDEPENDENCE DAY AFTER 2 DAYS
if you have to announce it, you are not free
median blade
hmm
daring jay
INDEPENDENCE DAY AFTER 2 DAYS
For what country?
median blade
india
daring jay
Ah
jovial island
.so create stack
rustic harborBOT
2 
23 
1 
java, concurrency, jvm
hidden lintel
ty
shy shadow
this server image is best
bright ridge
oh wait it was
are you from tn?
odd sphinx
no
shy shadow
I mean tamil nadu
what is tamilnadu?
jovial island
its a state in india
shy shadow
its a state in india
ohhh
bright ridge
what is tamilnadu?
it's a state
lucid osprey
guys!! 4 more days until my vacation starts
jade bolt
wish you have a good trip i guess
odd sphinx
ez
tribal tinsel
heres the color palette i used
seems kinda like saturated xenogender flag, lol. thought darker blue would need to go into purplish and orange would need to be more reddish
lilac vale
seems kinda like saturated xenogender flag, lol. thought darker blue would need ...
but the banner uses the vibrant blue and the soft red
tribal tinsel
but the banner uses the vibrant blue and the soft red
I just mean this palette vs xenogender flag, nothing more :3
<- here's a small xenogender flag emote I have
tribal tinsel
@civic lion https://en.pronouns.page/xe :3
civic lion
Oh so it's like they/them
rigid echo
@grim seal happy burrrday!
jade bolt
@grim seal happy bruhday!
grim seal
tyty
median blade
hmm
pallid violet
@grim seal happy birthday ๐ฅณ 
grim seal
tyty
pastel nest
it's @grim seal's birthday? HAPPY BIRTHDAY JOE 
!!
grim seal
it's <@!165023948638126080>'s birthday? HAPPY BIRTHDAY JOE <:hyperlemon:43570792...
ty ty
wide totem
@grim seal happy birthday!
dusty hedge
happy birthday joe
cyan crypt
happy birthday @grim seal
grim seal
tyty
wild compass
@grim seal happy birthday ping parade!
blissful coral
Happy B'day Joe ๐ฅณ
he is replying "ty ty " everytime - definitely a bot ๐ ๐คฃ
wild compass
yeah, he should be banned for botting
except banned tomorrow cuz todays his birthday XD
grim seal
lol
jovial island
#bot-commands
lime drum
@grim seal may i interest you in a damn cheap api i found
14 bucks a month for unlimited requests
grim seal
lmfao
foggy flicker
Seems like m late, happy birthday joe
echo flower
45 requests per min seems like a good deal tho
jade bolt
tried to speedrun a game with a program.
at first i thought it uses mouse stuff to make movements
and the moment i log my mouse.
it's not.
๐ฆ
two possibility,
- the game doesn't use mouse at all
- the game prevents user from logging mouse
most likely it's 1
btw the game is getting over it
median blade
@hazy laurel i now have to confess that i have switched to popOS
hazy laurel
poor you
hazy laurel
eugh
median blade
i gotta say, gnome has been smoother than KDE for me
hazy laurel
i gotta say, gnome has been smoother than KDE for me
uh... GNOME is the slowest of DEs
autumn hornet
lime drum
45 requests per min seems like a good deal tho
you can do bulk requests as well
im probably gonna use the free tier at first
brave sparrow
you guys use DEs?
hazy laurel
you guys use DEs?
Desktop Environments? Yes
brave sparrow
cringe.
hazy laurel
I only know of very few simps that only use WMs
and I'm glad I know nobody who uses TTY
brave sparrow
DEs are resource intensive and heavy
hazy laurel
um
Not really
KDE and Xfce are both pretty good in terms of resource usage
GNOME is where people start to complain
brave sparrow
and what about none?
hazy laurel
None what?
brave sparrow
no de
round moss
while I would love to use a tty, there are no good tty implementations I have seen
hazy laurel
while I would love to use a tty, there are no good tty implementations I have se...
idk, I think I've actually heard of people who just slap on tmux and call it a day
brave sparrow
while I would love to use a tty, there are no good tty implementations I have se...
agree
round moss
yeah, tmux helps
brave sparrow
but isnt enough (for me atleast)
round moss
but still, you need proper fonts, resolutions etc
hazy laurel
idk, the desktop is what I like about Linux
round moss
I do generally use a WM with dmenu, since all I need is "open application fullscreen and switch between them"
hazy laurel
speaking of which... I switched to Wayland incredibly painlessly
I mainly wanted to verify the scroll speed thing
hazy laurel
Well, honestly... These past couple of years I've noticed a lot more hype when it comes to Linux
Things like Proton are kicking off, as well
round moss
yeah, problems are actually getting solved
which is wonderful
at this point I would be willing to have a non tech savvy person use ubuntu and wouldn't expect them to struggle too much (except maybe with libre)
hazy laurel
Yeah, I had my 12-year-old brother using Xubuntu
the only problem was some software he wanted would be annoying to install
so I put him on openSUSE Leap and taught him how to use the OBS
echo flower
i just love these marketing names
hazy laurel
I said this in #ot1-this-regex-is-impossible lol
echo flower
deathadder
hazy laurel
It's been a good $15 mouse though ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
steel eagle
I do generally use a WM with dmenu, since all I need is "open application fullsc...
Check out byobu
It may or may not do what you need
Can use screen or tmux as a backend
I refuse to run a server without it
placid patrol
๐
daring jay
2021 stack overflow dev survey results are out
tribal tinsel
Poland in top 10 of respondents, lol
hazy laurel
Whoa, Linux is more used for devs than macOS is now
hollow heart
damn 92% respondents were men
hazy laurel
hazy laurel
by like the tiniest hair but yuh
daring jay
Whoa, Linux is more used for devs than macOS is now
devs that responded to the survey*
hazy laurel
Okay but like
nvm idk how to counter that
last year it was this close as well
Yet another year is Rust #1 on most loved haha
daring jay
Now that I have played with Rust, I can see why
languid osprey
Whoa, Linux is more used for devs than macOS is now
Yay
hazy laurel
ugh
lol I find it so funny to see Eclipse all the way at the bottom of the editor section
compact dagger
damn 92% respondents were men
๐ข
hollow heart
did you participate? (i'm not a dev :P)
compact dagger
Yes.
lunar basin
i don't remember this thing
compact dagger
Not fun to be reminded just how much of a sausage fest tech still is.
hazy laurel
whoops
steel eagle
Yeah that's an oof
odd sphinx
it's just what people are interested in lolz
pliant trench
2021 stack overflow dev survey results are out
Nice!
pliant trench
wait, Clojure is loved more than TS??
steel eagle
Unsurprising
pliant trench
hmm
keen burrow
Hello @rotund python, please don't send random memes here
jade bolt
how to make <div> auto resizes to the browser's size set right now
rotund python
Hello <@370435997974134785>, please don't send random memes here
isn't it off-topic channel ๐
clever salmonBOT
jade bolt
read the last part.
you can only post meme that are related to the topic of the offtopic channel rn iirc
jovial island
anybody able help me setup jar file as classpath ?
lucid osprey
what's jar and what does it have to do about python? ๐
jade bolt
what's jar and what does it have to do about python? ๐
java file ig
hidden lintel
what's jar and what does it have to do about python? ๐
whoooooops involuntary reaction xD
lucid osprey
hm
sinful sun
You should be using a build tool to help you manage dependencies in java
Instead of having to mess with classpath
spare vapor
afghan has fallen
median blade
yeah
daring jay
What's a good pure FP language to try that paradigm out?
elfin vine
Scala?
daring jay
Scala combines OOP and FP iirc
cedar turtle
isn't it supposed to be a mix of oop and fp
sinful sun
Jabbascript
cedar turtle
Jabbascript
yes
daring jay
isn't it supposed to be a mix of oop and fp
according to their website, yes
elfin vine
Huh, I have a couple of friends in another server who are very FP who use it.
cedar turtle
Huh, I have a couple of friends in another server who are very FP who use it.
it does have fp features
elfin vine
I guess Elixir is as good as you can get with a new language?
sinful sun
Why not just use haskell
elfin vine
Otherwise go with Haskell?
dusky cliff
i mean a pure pure fp lang wouldn't even be able to print/take input right
cedar turtle
how does haskell do IO then?
daring jay
In pure fp, a function can only take input data, do stuff with it, and return data
daring jay
monad?
dusky cliff
don't hit me with the _monoid in the category of endofunctors_
monoid in the category of endofunctors
daring jay
dont say the m word
monad monad monad
cedar turtle
monoid in the category of endofunctors
you've done it
round moss
how does haskell do IO then?
It essentially has a function that returns "Hey runtime: print hello" and then you define main whose type is this "command"
cedar turtle
It essentially has a function that returns "Hey runtime: print hello" and then y...
doesn't that have side effects?
round moss
And you can merge commands together
daring jay
Hmm, I might try PureScript.
The fact that it can be used in frontend sounds interesting
cedar turtle
Hmm, I might try PureScript.
'Izumo will be happy :)
daring jay
PureFunctor? Yeah, he like PureScript
cedar turtle
PureFunctor? Yeah, he like PureScript
ye
round moss
Purescript is great
Better than haskell in some ways
@cedar turtle no, returning a command is not a side effect, you are just returning some value
The side effect is in the runtime itself which is not part of the code you write
daring jay
The function itself can't execute that code, but it can tell another something to execute it, correct?
round moss
But keep in mind a monadic function is pure in name only, and has almost none of the advantages of pure functions
@daring jay yes
daring jay
Ok, that makes more sense
I was wondering how you'd do repeated tasks without constantly writing the same code
round moss
(it's a bit more elaborate to facilitate 2 way communication, but that's the essence)
rigid echo
wept
keen burrow
I think I have one blocked user
nova ember
I think I have one blocked user
Me? ๐ฅบ
keen burrow
Sigh, why this blocked user keeps appearing
nova ember
Sori akari ๐ฅบ๐ฅบ
keen burrow
Okay, now you deserve an actual block
odd sphinx
bruh
nova ember
Me sori. Me guna gib u kaindnes
keen burrow
keen burrow
@twilit crescent good luck moving!
dusky cliff
am i missing something
keen burrow
woven hornet
for this conditional expression (functions inc, increments its argument by 1, and dec, decrements its argument by 1)
//first function
function plus(a, b) {
return a === 0 ? b : inc(plus(dec(a), b));
}
plus(4, 5); ```
does this equate to
```js
//second function
function plus(a,b) {
if (a === 0) {
return b;
}
else {
return a - 1 + b + 1;
}
}```
i think it's different? because the first function follows a recursive process like
```js
(+ 4 5)
(inc (+ 3 5))
(inc (inc (+ 2 5)))
(inc (inc (inc (+ 1 5))))
(inc (inc (inc (inc (+ 0 5)))))
(inc (inc (inc (inc 5))))
(inc (inc (inc 6)))
(inc (inc 7))
(inc 8)
9```
while the second function is
```js
(+ 4 5)
(+ 3 5)
(+ 8 1)
9```is that correct?
keen burrow
You have unbalanced parenthesis in the second function
But yes, it is different
Since the second function doesn't have the logic for plus()
woven hornet
Since the second function doesn't have the logic for `plus()`
ohhhh i see so the reason why we subtract a till it's a ===0 is because the alternative expression contains a plus()
keen burrow
Yeah
woven hornet
yeah cuz i was wondering how do we know whether to just stop once or until a === 0 but yup got it thanks
sharp spoke
i cleared my block list
am i finally out?
jovial island
im trying create a class path and in the document it says Batch files (in directory in system PATH) antlr4.bat and grun.bat. I added it to where I presume is the path location and its runs on the cmd now , but its not functioning when I type commands in . Any suggestions ?
odd sphinx
lo
steel eagle
Tonight I'm going to do some work towards moving my shell automation/build system out of prototyping and into a pre alpha
jade bolt
am i finally out?
you are never in there lol
unreal sigil
@jovial island In my experience, learning Python, my first programming language, was far far easier than learning a human language.
I think it being specific helps, there's less variety, less things to learn etc etc. The slang and whatnot of human languages makes that harder
But even then, that's just vocab, learning the structure and pronunciation of a human language is not easy
Comparatively I found it much easier in programming
Because I can visually see the structure and syntax of the language
Pronunciation and listening is the big one really, learning to read another human language isn't necessarily super hard, but learning to speak it well and listen well is another matter
I suppose it would depend on the language, but I still think that learning pronunciation and learning to listen to it are comparatively hard to just reading it
I think the same could be said for programming languages in a way, like I've learnt a lot in this server just by reading other peoples code and observing conversations. But I do agree that you can pick up on words in other languages just through listening to the way in which they're used
unreal sigil
When I say learning a language, I mean at a point other than as a young child, because the same thing applies to human languages past a certain age. You won't have a clue what's going on
Well, won't often, depends on the language
Since some languages share root words
I could of course be biased, I'm very new to learning human languages, started learning Korean a few weeks ago, and it's wildly different from say the jump from English to Spanish
Like it's been extremely easy to learn how to read, though my vocabulary isn't large yet, the actual writing system is very elegant. But pronunciation and listening is another matter
upbeat sandal
When I say learning a language, I mean at a point other than as a young child, b...
just so I'm on the same page, are you comparing learning natural languages to programming languages?
unreal sigil
Yeah
upbeat sandal
there are some similarities, but the overall processes are not comparable.
unreal sigil
I think my conclusion was that programming languages are comparatively easy to learn, but harder to use. While natural languages are comparatively harder to learn, but easier to use.
upbeat sandal
I'm not sure I agree with that assessment.
the goal posts for complete mastery over a programming language and a natural language are different. True mastery of a natural language requires an extensive vocabulary--should a master Python developer have the API for the top 100 PyPI packages memorized?
Programming languages are also required to be free of ambiguity, whereas natural languages have tons of ambiguity, and the listener applies their knowledge about the world to disambiguate.
unreal sigil
That's fair, I guess at the end of the day they're just different things
upbeat sandal
Ye
There are some similarities, of course. Both have syntax and semantics
You can diagram the syntax of both natural and programming languages
And then as for the semantics... 
upbeat sandal
Like it's been extremely easy to learn how to read, though my vocabulary isn't l...
The Korean writing system is one of the most beloved among linguists, though I haven't learned it.
upbeat sandal
Yay
The fact that the letter forms are not arbitrary is called "featural" and I have no idea what to do with that information
But I've been holding onto it for years.
unreal sigil
Featural, JIT-compiled, statically typed writing system
steel eagle
Hangul is in fact a wonderful writing system
Definitely one of my favorites
Up there with hiragana and Cyrillic
My conlang is loosely based off of it
odd sphinx
same
pliant trench
What app do you guys use to setup sound on linux
novel wharf
What app do you guys use to setup sound on linux
i used to use pulseeffects (now easyeffects) to set up sound but it was very inefficient, and now i have a synthesizer, so idk what to use now
the synthesizer uses midi
novel wharf
and idk why
have you checked with lsusb?
pliant trench
why would I ?
novel wharf
lsusb lists all current usb connections
it will tell you if your mic is working
or being detected
novel wharf
but no input from that
oh? try pavucontrol to see if there is any options
pliant trench
Currently, I booted into windows to check if it works at all, it works
pliant trench
oh? try pavucontrol to see if there is any options
is that the gui thing?
novel wharf
is that the gui thing?
yeah
novel wharf
:/
pliant trench
yea so weird xd
novel wharf
yea so weird xd
if you don't have any luck, whatever distro your using, you should file a bug report
novel wharf
np
hazy laurel
omg I noticed the same thing
jovial island
does anyone know about ciacdo 3301 - libra primus?
pliant trench
does anyone know about ciacdo 3301 - libra primus?
ye ive heard about circada
jovial island
ye ive heard about circada
we are solving the book from 3rd puzzle wanna come?
brisk musk
sent
weary wolf
jovial island
!e
import numpy as np
some_ = np.array([
Fraction(1, 3),
Fraction(1, 3),
Fraction(1, 3),
])
print(np.linalg.norm(some_-some_))
@jovial island :x: Your eval job has completed with return code 1.
001 | Traceback (most recent call last):
002 | File "<string>", line 3, in <module>
003 | NameError: name 'Fraction' is not defined
why in the world we don't have Fraction in snekbox
jade bolt
!e
import numpy as np
from fractions import Fraction
some_ = np.array([
Fraction(1, 3),
Fraction(1, 3),
Fraction(1, 3),
])
print(np.linalg.norm(some_-some_))
clever salmonBOT
@jade bolt :x: Your eval job has completed with return code 1.
001 | AttributeError: 'Fraction' object has no attribute 'sqrt'
002 |
003 | The above exception was the direct cause of the following exception:
004 |
005 | Traceback (most recent call last):
006 | File "<string>", line 8, in <module>
007 | File "<__array_function__ internals>", line 5, in norm
008 | File "/snekbox/user_base/lib/python3.9/site-packages/numpy/linalg/linalg.py", line 2530, in norm
009 | ret = sqrt(sqnorm)
010 | TypeError: loop of ufunc does not support argument 0 of type Fraction which has no callable sqrt method
wtf
jade bolt
why in the world we don't have Fraction in snekbox
because you didn't import it
!e
from fractions import Fraction
clever salmonBOT
@jade bolt :warning: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.
[No output]
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