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hazy laurel
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Having unactivated Windows

simple arch
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Google says that it's legal to have unactivated windows, as long as I follow the restrictions placed by a non-activated account

hazy laurel
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"Authorized Software and Activation. You are authorized to use this software only if you are properly licensed and the software has been properly activated with a genuine product key or by other authorized method."
- Windows 10 Home EULA (https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/Useterms/Retail/Windows/10/UseTerms_Retail_Windows_10_English.htm)
simple arch
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so no jailbreaking

hazy laurel
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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There are so many conflicting results online

simple arch
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I think the consensus is that it's not illegal, but it is technically a breach of contract for which I could get sued. This is more for corporations using Windows, though, so I'm not worried.

hazy laurel
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you know I'm tired when I read "consensus" as "opensuse"

simple arch
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open sus

hazy laurel
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Damn it

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lol

odd sphinx
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sus

median blade
hazy laurel
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:[

jovial island
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idk man, this system looks kinda sus to me

median blade
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@hazy laurel

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does discord die for you

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randomly

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in openSUS

hazy laurel
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I've noticed that it's basically anything Chromium

median blade
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happens to me

hazy laurel
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like

median blade
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hmm

hazy laurel
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I remember I was playing Cookie Clicker

median blade
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edge is fine tho

hazy laurel
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and it would go absolutely crazy for me

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and Discord would do the same

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until I restart my computer

median blade
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any fix?

hazy laurel
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but like it doesn't happen too often for me, I reboot every night

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I think that helps

median blade
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i dual boot often

hazy laurel
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hm. in that case, I've got no clue

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it's not happened to me in a really long while

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although. now that I think about it

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I think it happens if I don't reboot after sudo zypper dup'ing

median blade
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wifi not workin, discord crash, nvidia drivers poof ...

odd sphinx
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heh

hazy laurel
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Did you do the workaround thing?

median blade
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nah cuz i have a different kernel so

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idk if i can just use the same thing

hazy laurel
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you can

median blade
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with different version numbers

hazy laurel
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Yes, you can do the same thing

median blade
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ah ok will try that

odd sphinx
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heh

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smug windows user with no weird bugs

hazy laurel
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I remember when I sent the workaround to you, that the directories might not match up

median blade
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same

hazy laurel
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that is what i meant

median blade
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ah

hazy laurel
median blade
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windows just works ™️

odd sphinx
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ikr

odd sphinx
hazy laurel
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Surely you've encountered that annoying bug

median blade
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nope

hazy laurel
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what

odd sphinx
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what bug

steel eagle
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I hate to beak it to you

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but in general

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windows is a very stable Os

median blade
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yes

odd sphinx
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agreed

median blade
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still like openSUSE tho

hazy laurel
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Idk, it wasn't for me on like 3 of my computers

odd sphinx
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usually its just a good lad

steel eagle
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most of the hate is just people joining the train because it's popular to say

median blade
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i like to play with linux

steel eagle
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and most of the issues are from people screwing things up

hazy laurel
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There was this incredibly annoying bug where explorer.exe would just break

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No taskbar, no desktop

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complete chaos

odd sphinx
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sad

median blade
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does not happen to everyone

steel eagle
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yeah, that isn't a normal thing to happen

median blade
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yeh

odd sphinx
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ye

round moss
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explorer.exe does crash every once in a while

median blade
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never happened to me

round moss
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but it is pretty easy to fix just with ctrl alt delete and starting it up again

hazy laurel
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idk, I remember some of my friends also had the same thing

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we had to memorize the command for restarting it

steel eagle
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I've never had explorer crash without me doingsomething to trigger it

hazy laurel
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my 11 year old brother knew the command by heart, too

round moss
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doesn't work if explorer is dead sometimes

median blade
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B(

odd sphinx
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from B) to B(

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so sad

round moss
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I once had it stop responding due to overloaded CPU, as well as other pretty normal things to have happen

hazy laurel
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idk, maybe it was just my computer but like... Windows for me was incredibly annoying sometimes

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I also reinstalled it several times, multiple versions

steel eagle
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it is either your computer, or your management of the OS.

median blade
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windows 11 will hopefull make things smoother

hazy laurel
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explorer.exe just did not want to comply

median blade
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its 64 bit only now

odd sphinx
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yes

steel eagle
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that's good, long time coming tbh

hazy laurel
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idk, maybe that's just not a thing anymore

steel eagle
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I haven't actually seen 32 bit hardware in yeeears

odd sphinx
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i have one, its super old, still works tho

round moss
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I have worked with 32bit hardware, but that's mostly because I use old things as hosting

median blade
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so does that mean we will have only one Program Files? B(

hazy laurel
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also man. hate Windows BSODs

steel eagle
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I can't even imagine trying to run Windows newer than like, Vista on something as old as 32 bit

median blade
odd sphinx
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never gotten a bsod

steel eagle
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BSODs mean you have a serious issue

median blade
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honestly

median blade
steel eagle
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I.e. unstable overclock, bad driver,failing hardware, or serious file corruption

median blade
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yeh

hazy laurel
round moss
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I have gotten some odd BSOD, but yeah, kernel panics etc are much more annoying to fix. Windows is really good with fixing itself automatically

hazy laurel
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that's the only time I've ever seen one

steel eagle
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or any system based on Arch

hazy laurel
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True

steel eagle
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Updating an arch based system: "Man I sure am excited to spend 4 hours fixing my system today!"

hazy laurel
round moss
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that is true

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but honestly, windows is getting better

steel eagle
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This is why I run OpenSUSE tumbleweed, it's rolling release, has all sorts of neat features, and doesn't fucking break when I update it

round moss
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haven't seen a BSODin months

hazy laurel
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oof I also had this one annoying thing with one of my laptops

round moss
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honestly, at this point I just want statically linked single executable files I can put on path

steel eagle
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las time I got a BSOD on windows was because my undervolt wasn't stable on my CPU

hazy laurel
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Bitlocker? Wouldn't allow me into my computer

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no matter how much I followed the on-screen directions

jovial island
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i haven't ever seen a bsod that wasn't caused by my stupidity

steel eagle
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^^

median blade
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so much for windows 10 being the final OS

steel eagle
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or just normal tweaking process, tbh

hazy laurel
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I suppose you're lucky

median blade
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nice play MS

round moss
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I have gotten random kernel errors before

steel eagle
odd sphinx
steel eagle
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that was before Satya Nadella

hazy laurel
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I'd like to think I know enough about what I'm doing to not mess things up

median blade
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true

hazy laurel
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also Windows from when I would use it, just does not play nice with high RAM usage

steel eagle
hazy laurel
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Linux just... closes the programs that take up too much memory

hazy laurel
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Windows BSODs

round moss
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which I very much dislike

jovial island
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windows 11 is more of a resin than an entirely new os

steel eagle
round moss
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yeah, OOM killer is rarely what I want

median blade
odd sphinx
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same

median blade
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it has a lot of stuff

hazy laurel
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I'd rather have the program shutdown instead of my whole computer O.o

median blade
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granted, windows explorer is the same

round moss
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windows 11 is not a reskin lmao

median blade
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ye

hazy laurel
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either way, that program that's using way too much memory is going to die

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I'd rather it not take my whole OS down with it

median blade
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it has fucking direct storage now

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damn

jovial island
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the differences are slim for me, considering I don't use any of those functions

steel eagle
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windows really doesn't...

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I've been at 31GB used and no issues

round moss
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well, windows will not let the program get more memory at all

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no over provisioning

median blade
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ye

round moss
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every allocation is allowed to fail

median blade
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i dont think it bsods

hazy laurel
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ah. that's another thing about Windows I didn't like... on my brother's old laptop, Windows always left room for absolutely nothing else

jovial island
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I haven't touched windows in a while

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Proton has worked well for what I play so far

round moss
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yeah, windows does not do well in resource pressured environments

hazy laurel
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and another thing as well... NTFS and defragging

jovial island
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oh man, NTFS sucks

median blade
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newer laptops are now capable of running windows well

hazy laurel
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I can't pretend to understand how any of that works... but I mean... why

steel eagle
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it's not window's fault the mfr didn't put a big enough drive in

median blade
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oof

round moss
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something like gentoo or arch will run better with almost no drive space

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or even one of the super light linuxes

hazy laurel
steel eagle
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yeah but that's a completely different use case for an OS.

hazy laurel
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Linux would be perfectly fine, relatively smooth

round moss
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defragmentation is something that you should do even on linux unless you have an SSD

jovial island
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hold on, 1sec, let me install Gentoo on my calculator

hazy laurel
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Windows would chug along slowly, and take up way too much room

round moss
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or well, if you have a HDD

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windows just did the usual thing and defrags automatically without user intervention

hazy laurel
round moss
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yeah, there are some things that make arch not super space efficient

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but still good enough generally

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I did run into issues having arch on a 60G drive though

jovial island
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oh no

hazy laurel
jovial island
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he said it

round moss
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it is a somewhat recent feature

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it used to be the advice that you should defrag manually

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but eventually windows just automated it

hazy laurel
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Well, that's a step up

round moss
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but well, that is a thing to do with having an HDD and has nothing to do with the operating system

steel eagle
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or 7 at the latest

hazy laurel
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I remember reading somewhere that fragmentation is especially bad on NTFS

round moss
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that is possible

hazy laurel
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Although, I think I can expect that to be a biased claim

round moss
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but it most certainly doesn't mean that you should not be defragging on *nix

steel eagle
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filesystem can have a big impact on fragmentation

hazy laurel
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it was an article comparing different file systems, namely EXT4/Btrfs/NTFS

round moss
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but I am not going to pretend that NTFS is amazing

steel eagle
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NTFS, in the grand scheme of filesystems, is pretty not great

hazy laurel
steel eagle
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only filesystem I'd rate lower is XFS

round moss
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ah, so ext4 just defrags automatically

hazy laurel
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If I had to guess, it tries avoid it (fragmentation) all together

odd sphinx
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interesting

round moss
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which I would assume means it is slower for a large amount of small files, since there is more space between them

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but eh, large amount of small files is always slow

hazy laurel
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"Linux’s ext2, ext3, and ext4 file systems – ext4 being the file system used by Ubuntu and most other current Linux distributions – allocates files in a more intelligent way."
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ah I should've quoted the rest of that paragraph

odd sphinx
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what filesystem do macs use?

steel eagle
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some proprietary bullshit if I had to guess

hazy laurel
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yeah, I'd guess proprietary as well

round moss
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APFS

steel eagle
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Apple File System (APFS), the default file system for Mac computers using macOS 10.13 or later,

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yep, some proprietary bullshit

hazy laurel
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I kind of find it weird that file systems have to be prorpietary

steel eagle
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they don't have to be

hazy laurel
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Right, I mean I don't understand why they are

odd sphinx
round moss
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well, SSDs are more prevalent, so fragmentation is not that relevant these days

steel eagle
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one before even my day

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back when proprietary meant you could easily lock people in

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if a customer bought one of your product - they would have to buy the rest of them

hazy laurel
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I mean some things I understand, people need to keep their competitive advantage to stay in the market

round moss
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vendor lockin is still somewhat of a concern, but mostly for old companies

hazy laurel
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but some things make absolutely no sense to be proprietary

round moss
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well, a filesystem kinda does

jovial island
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i wish my ps4 hard drive wasn't encrypted

round moss
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not like there is a whole lot you need to do that is fs specific

hazy laurel
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Maybe I just don't know enough about how it works, but I mean surely they hardly gain anything having NTFS/APFS proprietary

steel eagle
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again

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it's from before our time

odd sphinx
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yes

hazy laurel
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I guess

steel eagle
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back before the internet was such a huge thing

hazy laurel
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Seems kind of like a reluctance to change, though

steel eagle
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having a proprietary filesystem means that clients were literally locked into your platform

steel eagle
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think of it from a business perspective

hazy laurel
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Well, it's one of those things where I feel like something like NTFS being open-source would benefit quite a lot of people

steel eagle
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back in the day it would've ruined microsoft

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these days there is no point because better filesystems exist that are open

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and everything is compatible with NTFS

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NTFS will work on windows, mac, and linux

odd sphinx
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are filesystems very different in terms of read/write speeds or is that dependent on the hardware

hazy laurel
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Well, iirc NTFS doesn't work too well on Linux

hazy laurel
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and ext4 also doesn't work too well on Windows

steel eagle
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for example, xfs is faster at the cost of pretty much everything

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ext4 doesn't work at all on windows

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there are no drivers for it

odd sphinx
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dang

hazy laurel
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I heard there was

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I mean for external storage

steel eagle
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there are compatibility layers, but they're not real filesystem drivers

hazy laurel
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ah

steel eagle
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I went through that headache recently actually

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I figured it would be a solved problem

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and NTFS works fine on linux

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you just can't use it as a system drive, for obvious reasons

hazy laurel
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Well, I guess I'm fixed on this mindset where I don't see why they should lock themselves in like that

steel eagle
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you've only lived in a world where it doesn't make sense to do that

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how old are you? lol

hazy laurel
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Well, I'm 17

steel eagle
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there you go

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that's why

odd sphinx
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how are drives handled on linux?

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arent they just files

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instead of drives on windows

steel eagle
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well, yes and no?

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drives are hardware on linux the same way as on windows

odd sphinx
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yes but

steel eagle
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but the standard way of accessing them is by attaching them to a mount point

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usually on /mnt/drive

odd sphinx
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so /mnt

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yes

hazy laurel
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Drives on Linux can be mounted to any folder

steel eagle
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you can do this on windows, as well.

odd sphinx
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so if u were to have multiple drives on linux

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and u wanted to use both

hazy laurel
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on Windows, they're mounted to D: F: etc

steel eagle
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^ by default, yes

odd sphinx
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yes

steel eagle
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check this out

odd sphinx
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yes

steel eagle
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I'll make a new folder at C:\mnt\portable

odd sphinx
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are they ssds?

steel eagle
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some of them

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C: is a 1TB NVME, G: is a RAID0 of two 120GB SSDs

odd sphinx
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i see

steel eagle
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anyway

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oh I can't do this with my portable drive for some reason, interesting

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oh yes i can nvm

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now it's gone

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but accessible as a folder

odd sphinx
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wait what

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ohh

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damn

steel eagle
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so it's not an intrinsic difference between the OS, it's just a difference in default behavior.

odd sphinx
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very interesting

hazy laurel
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oh yes, I remember having to partition my installation for Arch

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it was quite confusing at first

steel eagle
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512MB EFI partition for GRUB, RAM-sized swap partition, and a btrfs root partition

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optionally a separate home partition, but I've never been a fan of that

round moss
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separate home would be nice if you could share it between installs

odd sphinx
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also wsl lets u mount ext4 into windows

odd sphinx
round moss
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but even then, is it better than wsl?

hazy laurel
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idk, maybe I just get unlucky when it comes to certain OS's

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namely Windows and Manjaro

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but eventually I just run into issues I don't feel like dealing with anymore

steel eagle
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WSL is not quite there yet

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it's like, good for 80% of things

jovial island
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4 hours until I get my MRI

steel eagle
jovial island
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boy am I scared shitless

steel eagle
jovial island
steel eagle
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ah well, I'm sure it won't be too bad.

jovial island
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there can be a lot of underlying symptoms for said woosh,

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aneurysm, TMJ,

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neck tumor

steel eagle
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only a few hours til you know the cause

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best try to keep your mind focused on something else, until then

jovial island
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yeah, and depending on the outcome i won't have money to get treated

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really sucks

steel eagle
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truly is the american way, hm

jovial island
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oh no, i live in Brazil

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it's worse.

steel eagle
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oh, that's fun.

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I wish you the best mate

jovial island
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thank you

sullen aurora
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wait, this is a channel for installing linux ?

dusky cliff
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no

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its for installing linus

sullen aurora
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what ?

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ok let me grab LTT.iso from the internet

dusky cliff
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(the names of the off topic channels are chosen randomly every 24 hours)

sullen aurora
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oh ok

dusky cliff
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mostly inside jokes and dumb stuff we say

thorn eagle
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lel

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dw its off topic

tranquil ridge
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its off topic with a code of conduct

tardy night
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On conduct then

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On guarde

jade bolt
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how to install linus

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not linux, linus

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how much does it cost

hot pulsar
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well, there are quite a few supply of linus', but im not sure what the demand for them is... we'll need to know the demand to calculate a cost

cerulean panther
thorn eagle
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Please keep it clean and respect ongoing conversations?

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print("ok?")
short cliff
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!rules 1 2

clever salmonBOT
short cliff
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Actually, those

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The server rules apply to ALL channels

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Understood?

thorn eagle
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print("Ok mr")

for x in range(1000):
  print("i apologize")
odd sphinx
hot pulsar
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i wanna nom it!! ive never nomd directly into a honeycomb

dusky cliff
odd sphinx
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same

tranquil ridge
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same

hot pulsar
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emas

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im jelly of nicky tho they always posts these crazy pictures

jade bolt
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I'm stuck installing Linus, any helpers

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does it has pirate detector, I might run into trouble

hot pulsar
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wtf do not pirate linus

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@ moderators

wide totem
jade bolt
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look at the channel name bruh

exotic echo
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does it mean linux?

jade bolt
proper python
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i don't fucking get where this blip is coming from

jovial island
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@steel eagle I'm back, and I'm clear

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Apparently it's just my high blood pressure, gonna have to get a diet

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Exercise a little more and check my sleeping position for bad habits

steel eagle
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Good to hear

tranquil ridge
balmy radish
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how can I check my score on the qualifier in code jam qualifier.py

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I submitted it, it says it will test it with sample inputs

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I used classes to do it, is that allowed? there was no mention of it not being allowed so I assumed it was

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anyone?

balmy radish
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thank you

somber belfry
dry orbit
tribal tinsel
hot pulsar
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u just posted a literal raw honeycomb

tribal tinsel
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yes?

hot pulsar
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lmao

tribal tinsel
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living in the countryside has its perks 😄

hot pulsar
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yes

tribal tinsel
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we had geese last year

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now we have some ducks and a lot of chickens

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ah, and ducks made a nest

steel eagle
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geese is a swear word in the US.

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Fucking Canadian Geese. Rat bastards

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aggressive, angry, mean, loud, annoying, and in the way

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at least they have long strangle-able necks.

upbeat sandal
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Scrub scrub scrub

thorn eagle
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stuff in washington?

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karens?

hazy laurel
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@median blade Are you the one who I showed the NVIDIA workaround thing to

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I've learned of a more "permanent" solution

hazy laurel
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dunno, I've not tried

median blade
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try it first :)

hazy laurel
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lol

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I'll try it next kernel update

median blade
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i don't wanna reinstall again

hazy laurel
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yeah, me neither

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❯ prime-run glxinfo | grep vendor
server glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
client glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
OpenGL vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
❯ glxinfo | grep vendor
server glx vendor string: SGI
client glx vendor string: Mesa Project and SGI
OpenGL vendor string: AMD

Hey, it finally works (not the dkms, this is the older workaround)

median blade
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hmm

hazy laurel
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well. I tried it

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um

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absolutely don't try it

odd sphinx
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what happeed

hazy laurel
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um

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❯ glxinfo | grep vendor
server glx vendor string: SGI
client glx vendor string: Mesa Project and SGI
OpenGL vendor string: AMD

❯ prime-run glxinfo | grep vendor
X Error of failed request:  BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation)
  Major opcode of failed request:  152 (GLX)
  Minor opcode of failed request:  24 (X_GLXCreateNewContext)
  Value in failed request:  0x0
  Serial number of failed request:  39
  Current serial number in output stream:  40

❯ nvidia-smi
NVIDIA-SMI has failed because it couldn't communicate with the NVIDIA driver. Make sure that the latest NVIDIA driver is installed and running.
odd sphinx
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bruh

hazy laurel
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bruh. I'm too tired for this

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sudo zypper reboot
Unknown command 'reboot'
Type 'zypper help' to get a list of global options and commands.
odd sphinx
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bruh

median blade
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exactly why i liked garuda

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ootb everything installed

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  • paru
hazy laurel
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well

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this happens to me on any distro

odd sphinx
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😔

keen burrow
somber belfry
jade bolt
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can i wash washington in washington

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the meaning of washington is to washing ton

sinful sun
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Bro what

odd sphinx
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ikr

dusky cliff
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hm

tranquil ridge
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thonk

hazy laurel
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Oh God. I accidentally smacked my cat right in the face

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he jumped on my bed and scared the heck out of me

median blade
dusky cliff
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lmao

tranquil ridge
jade bolt
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🤜 😺

😾
🛏️

hazy laurel
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omg there was saliva on my hand when it happened

dusky cliff
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whose

hazy laurel
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the cat...

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cause I smacc

dusky cliff
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cat reveal when

hazy laurel
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I was waiting for my mom in the heat, she was taking too long and I pulled out my phone...

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whoops, screen crack and power go poof

dusky cliff
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bruh

proper python
hazy laurel
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well

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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I took it out of the case because the case I have is all gross

proper python
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How the fuck does a phone melt

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Is it made of play dough or something

hazy laurel
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huh

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where'd you get melting

proper python
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Some internal component must have litirwally melted for the power to go out

hazy laurel
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oh. I dunno

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the power isn't like actually out

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but it doesn't turn on

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like the screen cracked it like "died", where it wasn't on anymore

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it turned itself off and it won't turn back on

proper python
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Wait how did the screen crack

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It could’ve easily deformed but how the fuck does it crack from heat

hazy laurel
#

oh. I left out the important bit

#

excuse me, it's 7:29 AM

#

I dropped the phone when I pulled it out

dusky cliff
#

bruh

proper python
#

Nice

hazy laurel
#

it didn't um... melt in pocket or anything

dusky cliff
#

that is the only detail without which it doesn't make sense

#

like

#

if you drop a phone even in cold weather

hazy laurel
#

idk man

#

I'm so tired

dusky cliff
#

i'm pretty sure i saw you online a few hours ago

#

do you ever sleep

hazy laurel
#

absolutely not

#

I've not slepted in.... 24 hours

dusky cliff
#

bruh

proper python
dusky cliff
#

ye-es

proper python
#

Loser

dusky cliff
#

but not upto 7:29 am

hazy laurel
#

7:30 AM

proper python
#

Imagine sleep

hazy laurel
#

keep counting

dusky cliff
#

...

hazy laurel
dusky cliff
#

the latest i've gone to sleep is like 3:30 am

proper python
#

You’ve never pulled an all-nighter?

hazy laurel
#

I've stayed up for 48 hours once

dusky cliff
#

not yet

proper python
#

That’s

hazy laurel
#

um...

proper python
#

Huh

hazy laurel
#

it's probably what brain death feels like

proper python
#

Actually kinda surprised

hazy laurel
#

it's kinda... trippy

dusky cliff
#

are you like

hazy laurel
#

like you feel sort of numb

dusky cliff
#

diagnosed with amnesia or what

hazy laurel
#

and you say/do things without thinking

hazy laurel
#

I've once slept for 19 hours

dusky cliff
#

interesting

hazy laurel
#

that is also quite awful

#

I would not recommend

proper python
hazy laurel
#

man. imagine going on a flight

dusky cliff
#

oh well

hazy laurel
#

will actually hopefully probably be me this summer

dusky cliff
#

i always s******* on flights if it's in weird hours

hazy laurel
#

did you just say... s— s— sleep!?

#

oh yeah. that one's going in the books

dusky cliff
#

fuck

#

i hate markdown

#

lmfao

hazy laurel
#

hsp always shitting on flights

vast cloud
#

i've always wondered how plane toilets filter poop and pee

hazy laurel
#

name lines up

dusky cliff
#

yes

#

i am now the shit in the plane guy of the server

proper python
#

You know what would be really funny

#

If the bot could edit messages

#

To censor out innocuous words

#

Like d***

hazy laurel
#

oh yes.

dusky cliff
#

what's wrong with ducky_yellow

hazy laurel
#

duck a duck

#

aaaa

#

a

#

okay I require s****

#

no. not shits

dusky cliff
#

sure

hazy laurel
#

only one

dusky cliff
#

lol

hazy laurel
#

okay, I've had enough of breathing

dusky cliff
#

say what

hazy laurel
#

wait that's not how that works

dusky cliff
#

i knew you were addicted to breathing

#

i knew it

hazy laurel
#

omg

#

time to go cold Turkey

dusky cliff
#

i too wonder what east europe looks like in the winter

hazy laurel
#

I knew you were going to say something about that

#

idk why i capitalized that

#

and I was thinking about it too

#

"huh. it's caps kinda like the country"

#

I now realize that turkey is not meant to be a pronoun in this context

#

okay, i'm losing my thoughts

dusky cliff
#

sleep

hazy laurel
#

s****

#

well.

dusky cliff
#

ex

hazy laurel
#

oh well

dusky cliff
#

*explain yourself cypheriel

jade bolt
#

what's wrong with sex? it's only (fake) used to define male or female

proper python
#

Correct my good sir

#

You DID pass 5th grade biology

shy fiber
#

Good luck to game jam attendants!

tranquil ridge
#

its a code jam though KoishiBounce

jovial island
#

anyone wanna type race?

tranquil ridge
#

my highest with no grammar was 105

#

with grammar half that so about 52

#

so no

#

:(

jovial island
#

fun fact: i'm playing with a notebook keyboard

tranquil ridge
#

nice

jovial island
#

it's actually better tho

tranquil ridge
#

i dont find any difference in speed in either case

jovial island
#

mechanical keyboards have heavier keys

tranquil ridge
#

oh ye

#

if you mean that way

#

then membrane keyboards are faster

#

at least for me

unreal sigil
#

I'm about as fast on both

#

With punctuation I'm for sure way faster on my mechanical board

#

Just cause its layout is superior in every way

#

It's annoying that typeracer makes you do this though

#

I'm not even really sure why they do it, you can just reload the page lol

jovial island
#

eh let's take a look

#

oh it's definitely superior

#

gonna make an account

#

discord oauth huh

unreal sigil
#

Yeah you can sign up via discord

jovial island
#

oh i likey

#

yeah it's a pretty good site

viral hare
#

using pyautogui to type super fast?

#

thats y there is like a test?

jade bolt
#

use ctypes instead

#

they're faster

#

if you're trying to do speedy stuff, use ctypes @viral hare

viral hare
#

i was meaning ppl botting typeracer

jovial island
#

anyone here knows js ?

wild compass
#

you have to type wavy text at like 80 wpm iirc

steel eagle
#

because I'm sure the answer to that queston "Many people in this server know JS" will not satisfy your needs

quiet depot
#

there is no question that cant ben answered by this server

quiet depot
#

are you sure

urban sun
#

Yea

odd sphinx
#

yoo

#

windows just updated

#

and now grub is gone HyperDance

#

and i forgot how to bring it back

rigid echo
#

lol

#

how does it looks?

odd sphinx
#

when i boot it

#

it just goes straight to windows

#

grub doesnt show up to greet me anymore :"(

rigid echo
hazy laurel
odd sphinx
#

theres only 2 entries in the boot order

#

i tried both

#

didnt work

hazy laurel
#

add another

odd sphinx
#

bruh

#

how do u add

hazy laurel
#

um

#

Guess it depends on the BIOS

odd sphinx
#

hm

hazy laurel
#

uh oh. I locked myself out of my Google account

#

because of course literally all the verification methods require me using my phone

#

which I'd broken

odd sphinx
#

bruh

hazy laurel
jovial island
#

rip

somber belfry
hazy laurel
#

oh, you know what

#

I just remembered, one second

#

I totally forgot I set that up with 1Password

dusky cliff
#

password length reveal!?

hazy laurel
#

my password is much longer than that

#

like it shows that many dots for every password

jovial island
#

Makes sense

hazy laurel
#

10/10 would recommend 1Password

#

Got the family plan, it's pretty nice

#

shared passwords and stuff

neat iris
#

HI

#

I need help

#

for my python code

#

so my code should not append if the output is already in txt file

quaint summit
#
let methods = {
    /**
     * [someMethod description]
     * @param  {[type]} arg1 [description]
     * @param  {[type]} arg2 [description]
     * @return {[type]}      [description]
     */
    someMethod: function(arg1, arg2) {
        // do stuff
    },
}

Is this the appropriate format to document this method? In Python it would be underneath the definition statement. It looks weird to me. IT's because the methods are in an object and not defined on their own that it looks weird

#

I like this better

#

If you ask me, I should just do it the way I want to. Javascript isn't Python. where things are written a certain way all the time I dont think.

#

At least if its supposed to be that way, no one follows the rules.

jovial island
#

Hmm

#

I think that in normal functions, the JSDoc documentation is above the function name() { part

#

I think the same could be applied for methods

quaint summit
#

yeah, I think it is supposed to be that way but it looks terrible to me. I suppose I should get used to it if its convention.

#

Its just unnecessarily repeating, "Here begins the information on this function."

#

the definition statement covers that, then you can lead into the info

#

it wouldn't look as bad if I didn't have to define functions in an object.

hot pulsar
#

googles making some major changes to the search engine right now i think, or at least massively looking at it and customer satisfaction. about a week ago i started getting tons of reward surveys at least 1-2 times a day about what i searched, how happy i was, how impacted i was if i said i wasnt happy, etc.

median blade
#

lol

round moss
#

@leaden hazelput it into a codeblock here

#

```c
//code here
```

leaden hazel
#

uff.., says message is too long

round moss
#

use a paste site then

leaden hazel
#

sorry but.., how does this work

round moss
#

paste the code in, then press ctrl s, which changes the link, which you then copy and send here

leaden hazel
#

oh cools

round moss
#

what isn't working

leaden hazel
#

the output.., it just takes the roll no. and name for the first person

#

and then proceeds randomly

round moss
#

return toppers[N]; is wrong for an array for size N

#

toppers[N]=store_array_of_toppers(top_cg, N, students); same here

#

also, what compiler are you using?

leaden hazel
#

oh.., so, like, how and why and what should it be instead :')

leaden hazel
round moss
#

that doesn't tell me the compiler

#

but alas, it is fine

#

an array of size N has the last index at N - 1

#

unless N == 0

leaden hazel
#

Oh...

round moss
#

on a related note, add -Wall -Wextra to your compilation flags, and if your compiler supports it, also -fsanitize=undefined

leaden hazel
#

it still stops after this.., like i keep on pressing enter but no help

round moss
#

roll no is supposed to be 8 characters, that is more

leaden hazel
#

it stops right here

round moss
#

remove the \n after the %s scans

#

%s eats the newline

leaden hazel
#

Oo

#

Now this is happening :'), it doesnt take anything after name as input :')

round moss
#

could you share the current version of the program

#

and well, you will your own line reading function if you want to read a string with spaces in it

leaden hazel
#

here

leaden hazel
round moss
#
        printf("Enter the data of student %d\n", i+1);
        printf("Roll no.: ");
        scanf("%s", students[i].roll_no);
        printf("Name: ");
        scanf("%s", students[i].name);
        printf("Age: ");
        scanf("%d",&students[i].age);
        printf("sex: ");
        scanf(" %c",&students[i].sex);
        printf("cgpa: ");
        scanf("%f",&students[i].cgpa);
```if you do this, it makes  things at least somewhat work (until you have whitespace in any of the strings)
#

reading standard input in C is really really obnoxious

wicked hollow
#

initial whitespace characters always dropped automatically (except for %c)

round moss
#

ah, true

#

fgets and parse manually is probably your best bet

leaden hazel
#

the output :')

round moss
#

welp, finally are we at the truly weird stuff

jovial island
#

sheesh, someone barfed all over stdout

hazy laurel
#

sorry

round moss
#

_STUDENT toppers[N]; this array in main() is only getting it's last element set, but print_array_of_students access all of the elements

#

this would call for drmemory or valgrind, but settings those up is annoying

wicked hollow
#

or -fsanitize=address

round moss
#

will that catch unintialized VLA access?

leaden hazel
round moss
#

those are tools to report when you do silly things like access uninitialized memory

#

or go out of bounds, and a bunch of other things

wicked hollow
round moss
#

seems no, at least with clang

wicked hollow
#

boo.

leaden hazel
#

ohkay.., so.., isn't there another way i could get around my problem statement without this complicated stuff? :')

round moss
#

well, you know what is wrong

#

so think about how to correct it

leaden hazel
#

Ohkayie

#

Thanks

round moss
#

@leaden hazelthe problem is also the store_array_of_toppers function, it leaves uninitialized end of the toppers local array, from which it then returns a value

leaden hazel
#

Oh, cools, got it... thanks again

silent oar
#

!rule 6

clever salmonBOT
#

6. Do not post unapproved advertising.

jovial island
exotic hound
#

What is this? what is the purpose?

hazy laurel
tribal tinsel
dusky cliff
#

oh yeah i found this quiz on reddit a few weeks ago
i scored 13 i think

#

or was it 17?

tribal tinsel
#

11, + 1 I thought correctly but eventually selected something else
I selected "I give up" in the last XD

dusky cliff
#

loll

#

tbf it wouldn't be too hard to come up with questions like these for python too

#

weird scoping could probably make for at least 5 questions

odd sphinx
#

guys

#

fun fact

#

win+alt+d

#

brings up the date time menu in the taskbar

#

on the uselessness scale its a solid 9.5

hazy laurel
#

lmao why did I do that keystroke

#

I'm not even on Windows

tranquil ridge
#

imagine win + alt on i3

median blade
#

win + d however

odd sphinx
#

agree

#

and win+shift+d will bring the window back

round moss
#

I still wonder what win+, is for

odd sphinx
#

nvm it doesnt

odd sphinx
round moss
#

win+d should undo win+d

odd sphinx
#

hold it down and u will see the desktop

odd sphinx
#

theres no shift

#

i just tested it

hazy laurel
#

guys win + d is "wind"

round moss
#

yes, but why do you want to peek at your desktop

odd sphinx
#

uh

#

lmao

#

idk

#

just want to get a good look at that sick new wallpaper ig

#

win+shift+m is the opposite of win+m

median blade
#

thanks a lot ._.

hazy laurel
#

win + . is all I ever used

median blade
#

😢😢

#

nice

hazy laurel
#

lol

steel eagle
#

Lmao

#

I got some of the interfering ones right

grim seal
#

good evening

daring jay
#

Good evening Joe

jovial island
#

6 degrees help

#

i'm about to freeze here and that's saying something

#

two pairs of socks, two pairs of pants

#

i'm also rocking two sweaters

#

but i couldn't find any gloves sadcat

jovial island
grim seal
#

how are you all

jovial island
#

i look really stupid now using two beanies and a bath robe over my other clothes

daring jay
grim seal
unreal sigil
#

Well if it isn't Joe 👀

#

Awake at some late hour of the night perhaps?

grim seal
#

lol

#

00:46

unreal sigil
#

Not too bad

grim seal
#

lol

hazy laurel
#

Howdy, Joe

grim seal
#

Over the last year, PCs have kept us connected to family, friends, and enabled businesses to continue to run. This new hybrid work paradigm has got us thinking about how we will continue to deliver the best possible quality, experience, and security for the more than 1 billion people who use Windows.

#

Microsofts reasoning as for why TPM is required for Windows 11

#

interesting read

hazy laurel
#

I read it, but I understood absolutely none of how any of this works

grim seal
#

lolol

median blade
#

Why are 2017 CPU s and below not supported

#

:(

hazy laurel
#

Well, I guess there's some merit to that decision

#

in where Windows 11 won't be held back by old tech

median blade
#

Nah I can't see any

hazy laurel
#

It's kind of an annoying situation for operating systems

#

like a lot of Windows features are DOS compatibility features

grim seal
# median blade Why are 2017 CPU s and below not supported

that's how new OS' work, it's always been that way. people running those systems will continue to get windows 10 updates, but it's fair enough if MSFT want to use newer technology/instructions, every year they backdate compatibility costs them a shit ton, so it's fair enough if they want to just do maintenance releases for older CPUs.

median blade
#

Hmm

#

Well

#

Ryzen 1000 and ryzen 2000 are pretty much the same except for a node change and perhaps some clocks

#

Its not a huge difference like fx vs ryzen architecture

#

Regarding intel, 7th and 8th gen are pretty much the same

#

So idk where MS got this list from

unreal sigil
#

I mean, whatever list they produce is going to have CPU's on it that are similar to CPU's that are supported

#

The line has to be drawn somewhere

median blade
#

Sure but the line drawn is absurd

#

Hmm idk what to do

#

I have to upgrade my system but this is a bad time to do so

vast cloud
#

they didint even put ryzen 5 2400g in the list grumpchib

median blade
#

That's zen architecture I guess

#

Soo

hazy laurel
median blade
#

Yes

#

I want DDR5 n stuff

echo flower
#

I'm a bit fickle minded on whether to upgrade - I have the requirements ticked and I'm not limited by the limits they imposed

steel eagle
#

I'm definitely going to

#

direct storage is reason enough

#

new start menu looks good

#

other than that, it's really just windows 10 with sugar on it, which microsoft has not been shy about stating themselves.

vague shadow
#

I am going to hazard a guess that mfst's choice in CPUs is closely linked to the instructions/technology that they support

#

oh lol, just replied to a message that's from >7 hours ago

#

yikes

median blade
#

Umm

#

Idk that

#

What I do know is that zen+ is a refresh of zen1 on 12 nm I guess

#

Most of the stuff has to be same idk

#

Also, both use the same mobo

#

The b350

#

X370

vague shadow
#

Yea true, What I'm trying to say is that mfst wouldn't lock themselves out of the market share of users using old CPUs unless there was a good reason

median blade
#

SSD's

median blade
#

Anyways I need a new pc now

#

Gotta get DDR5 support 😋

soft quiver
#

@dire kindle since d.py is closed
There are only a few things which cause outbound gateway events; initial login to discord, heartbeats every 40 or so seconds, and presence changes, that's about it

soft quiver
#

There's a couple more like resuming sessions, but they're so rare they barely need to be thought about

dire kindle
#

So why gateway limit is 120/minutes?

soft quiver
#

Honestly, no clue

dire kindle
#

They probably should make it like 10 perm minutes or so

soft quiver
#

It's shared between shards though, so bear in mind if you have a ton of shards you could get pretty close to that limit because of all the shard heartbeats

dire kindle
#

Ahh, gotcha

#

wait

#

Does gateway limit also got increased if the number of guilds the bot is in increased?

#

I heard rate limits can be increased if the bot have much guild

soft quiver
#

Not that I know of, although for massive bots it probably does

dire kindle
#

yea

#

Cause like having 100 shards would hit gateway limits

daring jay
#

For large bots (150,000+) guilds, discord increases the ratelimits

cedar leaf
vague shadow
#

ahhh tpm 2.0 makes sense actually

#

the point of why chips are locked out that is

cedar leaf
#

Apparently Microsoft will have more information on that at later date, it's possible they drop it/lower it, it's also going to be a problem for IT people if Windows 2022 server requires TPM chip since secure boot isn't a thing for many

steel eagle
#

I'm upgrading to windows 11 rn

#

Wish me luck folks

tranquil ridge
#

gl

sudden swallow
odd sphinx
#

yes

odd sphinx
tranquil ridge
steel eagle
tranquil ridge
#

F

odd sphinx
#

oh yeaaa

steel eagle
#

it is not

dusky cliff
#

lol

#

guess i'm space now

#

F

daring jay
dusky cliff
#

you're dotty

steel eagle
#

that's neat looking

odd sphinx
#

indubitably so

steel eagle
#

it is time

odd sphinx
#

see u on the other side soldier

steel eagle
odd sphinx
#

updates are underway

#

thats a new one

steel eagle
#

New font

odd sphinx
#

segoe ui variable

daring jay
#

Good luck

odd sphinx
#

spicy

daring jay
#

See you on the other side

odd sphinx
#

soldier

steel eagle
#

It's on the login screen for a while lol

hidden lintel
#

ooooh windows 11 official release?

#

that's knew

#

but irrelevant since I use ubuntu anways

#

linux gang

gaunt jacinth
#

i dual boot, best of both worlds

hidden lintel
#

🖐️ same

#

but I rarely use windows

gaunt jacinth
#

i rarely use linux

hidden lintel
#

since I have an HDD and it takes like 20 mins to boot up

gaunt jacinth
#

i have the exact same problem with linux 😂

hidden lintel
#

🤣

#

but isn't linux supposed to be lighter and faster lol?

gaunt jacinth
#

yeah but i have windows on an ssd and linux on a really old hdd

hidden lintel
#

ahh that explains... things... 😆

sudden swallow
hidden lintel
sudden swallow
#

I found a yt comment just now with the exact same pfp troll

hidden lintel
#

🤣

sudden swallow
hidden lintel
#

ooooh I only commented once, on the empty title videooooooo

sudden swallow
#

troll maybe it is you

hidden lintel
#

maybe

#

Hmmm who can that be?

gaunt jacinth
#

oi stop being a stalker 😂

sudden swallow
#

don't wanna stalk lol

#

just curious

hidden lintel
#

so that would make you Julia?

#

idk thats the only person that replied to my comment :/

steel eagle
#

I'm really upset that small taskbar, and taskbar on the top are not options anymore

#

but it can't be moved o the top far as I know

#

well, it CAN

somber belfry
#

neat

steel eagle
#

also multi-monitor taskbars are completely broken in the dev build currently

sudden swallow
#

the graphics is awesome

steel eagle
#

Oh just wait

#

There is a new settings menu

#

Uhhh oh

#

My main monitor isn't connecting

#

Okay got it lol

tranquil ridge
#

late but

steel eagle
#

no activation issues, either

daring jay
#

Very nice

steel eagle
#

BUT WAIT. THERE'S MORE

daring jay
#

The OS looks pretty good

#

At least from the pictures I've seen

cedar leaf
#

Why would there be activation issues?

steel eagle
#

you know the old, crappy high contrast themes?

#

They've been overhauled.

#

hold on that's a bad ss

#

there

#

@sudden swallow ^ see my impressions here

#

as an aside, the whole OS feels way snappier and faster

#

just with normal use

daring jay
#

Ooh, that high contrast isn't too bad

steel eagle
sudden swallow
daring jay