#ot2-the-original-pubsta | Python | Page 58

daring jay May 23, 2021, 9:54 PM

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It uses Postgres

grim seal May 23, 2021, 9:54 PM

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I'm always hesitant about recommending free hosting and free databases

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it never ends well

daring jay May 23, 2021, 9:55 PM

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But if you're already hosting a modmail bot

grim seal May 23, 2021, 9:55 PM

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supabase is the exception actually, lol, I do like supabase

daring jay May 23, 2021, 9:55 PM

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Why not host a postgres db in the same place?

viral hare May 23, 2021, 9:55 PM

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even if the goal is for everybody to use for free i think u only really need to start looking for good hosting options once u start getting lots of users

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like how many users are currently using the app now

grim seal May 23, 2021, 9:55 PM

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viral hare even if the goal is for everybody to use for free i think u only really need to ...

you're missing it slightly, ARU is not hosting

wide totem May 23, 2021, 9:55 PM

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^

daring jay May 23, 2021, 9:56 PM

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I'm using Supabase just cause I know I'll be the only one ever using my app

grim seal May 23, 2021, 9:56 PM

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the idea is that ARU provides the source code and then users can set it up however they want

wide totem May 23, 2021, 9:56 PM

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And 9k people use the kyb3r modmail

viral hare May 23, 2021, 9:56 PM

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oh ic

steel eagle May 23, 2021, 9:56 PM

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Are we talking about databases

grim seal May 23, 2021, 9:56 PM

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so obviously designing it to be low cost is appealing

viral hare May 23, 2021, 9:56 PM

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y dont just let the users decide how they want to store their data or sth

grim seal May 23, 2021, 9:56 PM

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but yeah, personally I'd fork out the few bucks/mo for hosting a VPS w/ PSQL

wide totem May 23, 2021, 9:56 PM

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grim seal the idea is that ARU provides the source code and then users can set it up howev...

Thank you, lol

grim seal May 23, 2021, 9:56 PM

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viral hare y dont just let the users decide how they want to store their data or sth

well, you can't build every database method into your app

steel eagle May 23, 2021, 9:57 PM

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I need to learn the basics and intermediates of SQL. I'm not really employable without that. I've avoided it for so many years because I hate it so much

viral hare May 23, 2021, 9:57 PM

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like give them a range of options

wide totem May 23, 2021, 9:57 PM

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grim seal but yeah, personally I'd fork out the few bucks/mo for hosting a VPS w/ PSQL

Ye, but I've been in the server and hosting for free is a really big appeal

viral hare May 23, 2021, 9:57 PM

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which is what most orms do

wide totem May 23, 2021, 9:57 PM

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viral hare like give them a range of options

I mean, if you wanna code all of the different database methods, I won't stop you lol

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But to interface with different databases, I have to write code for that

viral hare May 23, 2021, 9:58 PM

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does it use a orm

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or are u actually writing query strings

wide totem May 23, 2021, 9:58 PM

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what is an orm?

grim seal May 23, 2021, 9:59 PM

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you can't abstract mongodb vs postgres behind an ORM

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they are completely different databases

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postgres is relational sql, mongodb is document & nosql

viral hare May 23, 2021, 9:59 PM

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like typeorm apparently supports some nosql and lots of sql

wide totem May 23, 2021, 9:59 PM

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what is an orm?

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@daring jay looking into supbase rn

grim seal May 23, 2021, 10:00 PM

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wide totem what is an orm?

https://www.fullstackpython.com/object-relational-mappers-orms.html

Object-relational Mappers (ORMs)

Object-relational mappers (ORMs) bridge relational databases and data represented in Python code.

daring jay May 23, 2021, 10:00 PM

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grim seal supabase is the exception actually, lol, I do like supabase

I like that it's open source

grim seal May 23, 2021, 10:00 PM

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viral hare like typeorm apparently supports some nosql and lots of sql

it does have the notable disadvantage of being typescsript in a python app 😛

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I've yet to see a fully compatible mongodb/postgres ORM in Python

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and... frankly I don't want there to be one

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it would lead to some really horrible database setups

daring jay May 23, 2021, 10:01 PM

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wide totem <@!788119126450765844> looking into supbase rn

https://github.com/supabase/supabase-py for the Python API wrapper, although you could always just use the API

lime drum May 23, 2021, 10:01 PM

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mongo and sql arent much compatible

wide totem May 23, 2021, 10:01 PM

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hm

grim seal May 23, 2021, 10:01 PM

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yeah

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for good reason

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lul

lime drum May 23, 2021, 10:01 PM

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tho if you do an orm for sql databases you still have lots of options

viral hare May 23, 2021, 10:01 PM

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well i guess if ur just using sqlalchemy or pymongo u cant mix

grim seal May 23, 2021, 10:02 PM

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yeah, but mongodb generally does have the best free hosting offerings

wide totem May 23, 2021, 10:02 PM

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daring jay https://github.com/supabase/supabase-py for the Python API wrapper, although you...

can't i use a postgresql connection uri?

lime drum May 23, 2021, 10:02 PM

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additionally you could bundle an sqlite database

daring jay May 23, 2021, 10:02 PM

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wide totem can't i use a postgresql connection uri?

It hosts Postgres databases for you

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It has it's own uri that it gives you I think

wide totem May 23, 2021, 10:02 PM

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ngl i can't even find the supabase pricing

daring jay May 23, 2021, 10:03 PM

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https://supabase.io/pricing

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It's pretty cheap, and it's free tier is good

wide totem May 23, 2021, 10:03 PM

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…

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wtf

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that's on par with mongodb cloud

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~~as in pretty equal~~

daring jay May 23, 2021, 10:04 PM

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Is that a good thing or a bad thing?

wide totem May 23, 2021, 10:05 PM

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good thing

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the one little problem i have with this is this line

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and this is for an important reason

daring jay May 23, 2021, 10:05 PM

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That just means the database pauses iirc

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So the first query might take a little longer

wide totem May 23, 2021, 10:06 PM

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and you have to restart it from the portal

daring jay May 23, 2021, 10:06 PM

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Oh, idk

wide totem May 23, 2021, 10:06 PM

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daring jay May 23, 2021, 10:06 PM

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Oh, I see

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Well in my thinking, if you're not getting one thing in a week, then you don't need a modmail bot

wide totem May 23, 2021, 10:07 PM

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and this is a small problem since heroku gives only 550 hours a month which doesn't cover the entire month

viral hare May 23, 2021, 10:07 PM

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welp thats kinda what happens with free tier

wide totem May 23, 2021, 10:07 PM

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but i think its okay to live with that slightly friction imo

viral hare May 23, 2021, 10:07 PM

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cuz its their electricity that u r using

grim seal May 23, 2021, 10:07 PM

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daring jay Well in my thinking, if you're not getting one thing in a week, then you don't n...

ehh, I've maintained communities where that is the case, but they still need modmail

wide totem May 23, 2021, 10:07 PM

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I'll have to ask the other people who I'm working with

daring jay May 23, 2021, 10:07 PM

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grim seal ehh, I've maintained communities where that is the case, but they still need mod...

I mean I guess.

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I would think you would just message a mod

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But if you have error handling in the bot, it shouldn't really be a problem

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Or just use Mongo

wide totem May 23, 2021, 10:08 PM

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the issue is you have to open the dashboard when that goes down

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a small solution would just be set up a ping on uptime robot lmao

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depending on their terms of service

daring jay May 23, 2021, 10:08 PM

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Or just have the bot get data from the database every day

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And gather data that it does nothing with

wide totem May 23, 2021, 10:09 PM

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wide totem and this is a small problem since heroku gives only 550 hours a month which does...

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bot might be off for a week

daring jay May 23, 2021, 10:09 PM

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Ah

wide totem May 23, 2021, 10:09 PM

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there's 750 hours a month

daring jay May 23, 2021, 10:10 PM

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wide totem bot might be off for a week

Well if it's been offline for a week or whatever it is, it shouldn't be too much of an inconvenience to go to a dashboard imo

wide totem May 23, 2021, 10:10 PM

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yeah

daring jay May 23, 2021, 10:10 PM

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But it's up to you

wide totem May 23, 2021, 10:10 PM

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and its possible to get heroku to host for the whole month for free anyhow

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also can just add a tip to the setup guide

daring jay May 23, 2021, 10:11 PM

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Is the clone open source?

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If so, link?

wide totem May 23, 2021, 10:12 PM

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https://github.com/onerandomusername/modmail

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discord-modmail/modmail

A Modmail bot for Discord. Allowing safe moderator conversations with server members one server at a time. - discord-modmail/modmail

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there isn't any db support yet

daring jay May 23, 2021, 10:14 PM

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You should add a README

wide totem May 23, 2021, 10:15 PM

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soon, its on my list

daring jay May 23, 2021, 10:17 PM

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Why are the emojis commented out? https://github.com/discord-modmail/modmail/blob/main/modmail/config-default.toml#L30-L32

clever salmonBOT May 23, 2021, 10:17 PM

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modmail/config-default.toml lines 30 to 32

[emoji]
# sent_emoji = "white_heavy_check_mark"
# blocked_emoji = "\\N{NO ENTRY SIGN}"```

wide totem May 23, 2021, 10:23 PM

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that file shouldn't even be commited atm

daring jay May 23, 2021, 10:24 PM

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Oh lol

wide totem May 23, 2021, 10:24 PM

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will fix

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tl;dr if i can figure out how to get a db connection uri for the databases on supabase

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we'll use it

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since i want this to be compatiable with not just supabase

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afk

daring jay May 23, 2021, 10:26 PM

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wide totem tl;dr if i can figure out how to get a db connection uri for the databases on su...

It's in Settings > Database > Connection String

wide totem May 23, 2021, 10:38 PM

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Dope

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@grim seal i talked with the team and postgresql on supabase all the way

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so no more mongodb

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now i gotta redo a portion of the config system for the nth time

wide totem May 23, 2021, 11:21 PM

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asyncpg or aiopg?

daring jay May 24, 2021, 12:32 AM

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@wide totem Google says asyncpg

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By like, a lot

wide totem May 24, 2021, 12:32 AM

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lol

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went with it

daring jay May 24, 2021, 12:33 AM

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Nice

languid osprey May 24, 2021, 1:24 AM

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Rice sure is entertaining

echo fern May 24, 2021, 1:27 AM

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read it as "Rust", had no questions

languid osprey May 24, 2021, 1:27 AM

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haha

daring jay May 24, 2021, 1:43 AM

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echo fern read it as "Rust", had no questions

I did too

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I swear I saw that as Rust

indigo nest May 24, 2021, 2:52 AM

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help, my laptop is lagging even though i have about 50gbs left of space and 3.79 ram that is still usable out of 4.00 ram

daring jay May 24, 2021, 3:04 AM

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How do you test a programming language you're making? Simple question, but for some reason it's stumping me

languid osprey May 24, 2021, 3:13 AM

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Well

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You can give a test input, and have it evaluate it

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Or for seperate parts, have each of the parts of the language do its own thing with a given input

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And see what the output is

tranquil ridge May 24, 2021, 3:15 AM

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if its somewhat like python make a repl

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that makes it easier to test

languid osprey May 24, 2021, 3:15 AM

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Mhm

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If you can, implement a simple debug repl

daring jay May 24, 2021, 3:18 AM

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I see

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Interesting

normal pumice May 24, 2021, 3:50 AM

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Since this channel is called rice

languid osprey May 24, 2021, 3:55 AM

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oooHHH

paper snow May 24, 2021, 4:44 AM

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How can I run exe files on mac, on big sur?

viral hare May 24, 2021, 4:57 AM

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when windows thinks drscheme installer is a virus

dim root May 24, 2021, 5:19 AM

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@grim seal you here? need some help

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https://github.com/Piston-CLI/piston-cli/runs/2653164604?check_suite_focus=true

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wide totem May 24, 2021, 5:43 AM

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@dim root I replied in the discord-modmail guild but does it work locally?

dim root May 24, 2021, 5:47 AM

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same

wide totem May 24, 2021, 5:48 AM

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!pypi poetry

clever salmonBOT May 24, 2021, 5:48 AM

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poetry v1.1.6

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wide totem May 24, 2021, 5:48 AM

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Need to open docs since on mobile lmao

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Hm

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Oh

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The package itself seems to be installed

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Idk

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poetry remove piston-cli?

dim root May 24, 2021, 5:52 AM

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wide totem May 24, 2021, 5:53 AM

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Uh

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poetry install --remove-untracked

dim root May 24, 2021, 5:54 AM

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what it works now, did a relock

wide totem May 24, 2021, 5:54 AM

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Ah lol

wide totem May 24, 2021, 5:55 AM

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wide totem `poetry install --remove-untracked`

Fwiw I would think of adding this to your commit list or whatever

dim root May 24, 2021, 5:58 AM

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🤞

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running

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nooo

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https://github.com/Piston-CLI/piston-cli/runs/2653369145?check_suite_focus=true

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it works locally tho

wide totem May 24, 2021, 6:02 AM

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The working directory possibly?

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Since poetry installs the local project by default

dim root May 24, 2021, 6:19 AM

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https://github.com/Piston-CLI/piston-cli/runs/2653491800?check_suite_focus=true i get this now

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i am using tokens and they are correct

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boom it worked

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those who are interested: https://github.com/Piston-CLI/piston-cli/releases/tag/v1.4.0

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Release v1.4.0 · Piston-CLI/piston-cli

Piston CLI is a universal shell supporting code highlighting, files, and interpretation without the need to download a language.
The 1.4.0 release introduces the following improvements:

Adds a con...

odd sphinx May 24, 2021, 6:41 AM

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epic

tranquil ridge May 24, 2021, 6:43 AM

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nice

proper python May 24, 2021, 7:10 AM

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what's some good essay writing music?

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got a long night ahead of me

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lofi is a bit too sleepy for me

slender echo May 24, 2021, 7:45 AM

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who plays fall guys

odd sphinx May 24, 2021, 7:45 AM

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not me

grim seal May 24, 2021, 7:59 AM

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dim root <@!165023948638126080> you here? need some help

ya I can prob help later today if you didn't fix

dim root May 24, 2021, 8:00 AM

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grim seal ya I can prob help later today if you didn't fix

fixed it already 🙃

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debugging workflows is hell lot of work

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you cannot do it locally ig

grim seal May 24, 2021, 8:27 AM

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https://github.com/nektos/act works dometimes

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median blade May 24, 2021, 8:52 AM

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ah yes, dometimes

cerulean panther May 24, 2021, 8:53 AM

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dometimes. lol

grim seal May 24, 2021, 8:59 AM

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Lol

odd sphinx May 24, 2021, 9:38 AM

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yes

dusky cliff May 24, 2021, 9:40 AM

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cerulean panther May 24, 2021, 9:42 AM

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lol

odd sphinx May 24, 2021, 9:43 AM

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what

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?

cerulean panther May 24, 2021, 9:44 AM

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dome times

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/dōmtīmz/

odd sphinx May 24, 2021, 9:47 AM

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oh

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lol

jovial island May 24, 2021, 9:53 AM

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dusky cliff

Wow so realistic

tranquil ridge May 24, 2021, 9:53 AM

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lol

cerulean panther May 24, 2021, 9:53 AM

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lol

tranquil ridge May 24, 2021, 9:53 AM

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editing OX_1000

jovial island May 24, 2021, 9:53 AM

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no 1 billion

dusky cliff May 24, 2021, 9:53 AM

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cry about it

odd sphinx May 24, 2021, 9:54 AM

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lol

jovial island May 24, 2021, 9:56 AM

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Thicken is a good cad tool

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So is extrude

jovial island May 24, 2021, 12:43 PM

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no u

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don't crosspost

indigo nest May 24, 2021, 12:45 PM

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sorry

jovial island May 24, 2021, 12:46 PM

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@indigo nest This isn't a place to advertise your minecraft server, please also read our off-topic etiquette if you haven't already

indigo nest May 24, 2021, 12:46 PM

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no regrets

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but ok sure

clever salmonBOT May 24, 2021, 1:47 PM

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odd sphinx May 24, 2021, 1:51 PM

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L

rigid echo May 24, 2021, 3:10 PM

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O

cerulean panther May 24, 2021, 3:36 PM

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L

woven hornet May 24, 2021, 4:49 PM

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    static int program1(int n, int[] arr) {
        int val = 0;
        for (int i = 0; i < arr.length; i++) {
            val *= arr[i];
        }
        if (n==0) return val;
        return program1(n-1, arr);
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what does this program do?

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i was thinking if u set val = 0 wouldnt 0 multiplied by anything give u 0?

dusky cliff May 24, 2021, 4:50 PM

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yes

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this will always return 0

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where'd you find this

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they probably meant to set val = 1

woven hornet May 24, 2021, 4:51 PM

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dusky cliff where'd you find this

it was a worksheet

woven hornet May 24, 2021, 4:51 PM

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dusky cliff they probably meant to set `val = 1`

ohh ok

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lemme thinking abt it again

round moss May 24, 2021, 4:51 PM

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Depending on how java defines signed overflow, it may also be infinite/undefined in some cases

woven hornet May 24, 2021, 4:52 PM

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round moss Depending on how java defines signed overflow, it may also be infinite/undefined...

oh ok

dusky cliff May 24, 2021, 4:52 PM

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woven hornet ohh ok

or it might be a trick question

shrewd lance May 24, 2021, 4:52 PM

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Wait, why would there be overflow on multiplication by zero?

woven hornet May 24, 2021, 4:52 PM

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btw this function gives out an integer right?

dusky cliff May 24, 2021, 4:52 PM

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and you're supposed to answer 0

woven hornet May 24, 2021, 4:52 PM

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cuz after static it's int

round moss May 24, 2021, 4:52 PM

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n-1 doesn't tend towards 0

dusky cliff May 24, 2021, 4:52 PM

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woven hornet cuz after static it's int

yes

shrewd lance May 24, 2021, 4:52 PM

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Oh, right

woven hornet May 24, 2021, 4:52 PM

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dusky cliff or it might be a trick question

dont think so it's asking what's the recurrence relation here

woven hornet May 24, 2021, 4:56 PM

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dusky cliff yes

can i check for this function, all it does is to return the product of the integers in an array?

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i feel the n is abit unnecessary? like even if it starts of n>0, it's gonna keep -1 till it reaches n== 0

dusky cliff May 24, 2021, 4:57 PM

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ye, the recursion thing does seem useless to me

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not like arr changes at each recursive call

woven hornet May 24, 2021, 4:59 PM

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dusky cliff ye, the recursion thing does seem useless to me

oh ok can i check with you for return , does it only return the last value?

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it wont be a few values?

dusky cliff May 24, 2021, 4:59 PM

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?

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it'll return just one int

woven hornet May 24, 2021, 5:00 PM

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yeah cuz before n reaches 0, it will keep returning the arr

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i see ok so it jus returns the last value when n==0

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thanks

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@dusky cliff i realise when the qn asked find the recursion relation, they were finding T(n) = ...

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the efficiency

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which was T(n) = O(x) + T(n-1)

dusky cliff May 24, 2021, 5:03 PM

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hmm

plucky shale May 24, 2021, 6:25 PM

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Yes Rice is good

jovial island May 24, 2021, 6:25 PM

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riceing

languid osprey May 24, 2021, 7:54 PM

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ricing good

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I have a question

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A, well, inquiry

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shall I use arch or openSUSE

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I can't decide

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fuck it im using arch

tribal tinsel May 24, 2021, 8:25 PM

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well, one of the rules of ot is to respect ongoing discussions. so people in other channels just continued their topics

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and yes, one can make their own operating system

languid osprey May 24, 2021, 8:25 PM

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I mean I wrote a kernel once

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But I'm not sure how I would go about ricing that

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or using it

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uh

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somewhere in my files

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all it does is print hello world to the screen :P

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It was just to see if I could do it

tall temple May 25, 2021, 1:12 AM

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just a question, why do many pythoners prefer to write json data instead of python data format?
does it offer efficiency benefits?

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For pure python projects, I tend to just write python literals to the data file and import it as a module

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Am I losing any efficiency doing this?

sinful sun May 25, 2021, 1:28 AM

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Wdym json data and python data

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json is a serialisation format, whats python data format

idle comet May 25, 2021, 2:20 AM

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tall temple Am I losing any efficiency doing this?

json is literally the same as you would write in python, but limited to the following datatypes: list, dict, int, float, str
it has the advantage of easily being writable from python code, which a python file does not have, at least not with this little effort.
you're most likely not loosing efficiency (or actually, a json parser is a lot easier to run than a python parser but both are negligible in most cases)
but you're loosing persistance of changes.

wide totem May 25, 2021, 2:23 AM

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idle comet json is literally the same as you would write in python, but limited to the foll...

Json parsing is extremely unlikely to crash the compiler

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Like if it does, that's almost certainly a bug in python itself

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Python parsing with ast has good potential to crash the compiler

idle comet May 25, 2021, 2:25 AM

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well, yes but actually no. you can still wrap a import in a try except block to continue after it fails, which is the same as handling the errors raised by the json parser

wide totem May 25, 2021, 2:27 AM

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Yeah

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Wait

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I meant literally using {!d ast} to parse python lol

idle comet May 25, 2021, 2:28 AM

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wide totem I meant literally using {!d ast} to parse python lol

what is {!d ast} supposed to be?

wide totem May 25, 2021, 2:29 AM

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Idk why I did that

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!d ast

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ast

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An abstract syntax tree can be generated by passing ast.PyCF_ONLY_AST as a flag to the compile() built-in function, or using the parse() helper provided in this module. The result will be a tree of objects whose classes all inherit from ast.AST. An abstract syntax tree can be compiled into a Python code object using the built-in compile() function.

wide totem May 25, 2021, 2:29 AM

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Inline commands plus1

idle comet May 25, 2021, 2:29 AM

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THATS GENIOUS

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please submit a issue for that

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i wanna see what others think of it

wide totem May 25, 2021, 2:30 AM

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99% it's already been submitted which is where I saw it

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!src

clever salmonBOT May 25, 2021, 2:30 AM

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Repository

Go to GitHub

wide totem May 25, 2021, 2:30 AM

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Lemme check

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bot#1604

rustic harborBOT May 25, 2021, 2:31 AM

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GitHub

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wide totem May 25, 2021, 2:32 AM

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@idle comet

idle comet May 25, 2021, 2:32 AM

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ofc it was vco's idea

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i shoulda known

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@soft quiver good idea you got there, inline commands, now i deperately want that

soft quiver May 25, 2021, 2:33 AM

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lolll

idle comet May 25, 2021, 2:35 AM

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this will be in every bot i make from now on. just need a decent implementation

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its one of those things

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once you realise its a possiblity, once the idea even comes up, you cant stop thinking about it

soft quiver May 25, 2021, 2:37 AM

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just need a solid regex for it really

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the rest is pretty simple

median blade May 25, 2021, 2:37 AM

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Afaik some bot already has this

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But ig it uses discord.js

wide totem May 25, 2021, 2:45 AM

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idle comet this will be in every bot i make from now on. just need a decent implementation

MIT licensed?

wicked hollow May 25, 2021, 3:07 AM

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@hidden rose I think you're looking for:

typedef struct s_info
{
    int *num_array;
    int size;
}   t_info;

int main(void)
{
    t_info *info;

    info = malloc(sizeof(t_info));
    info->size = 16;
    info->num_array = malloc(info->size * sizeof(int));
}

austere oak May 25, 2021, 3:30 AM

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A utf-16 txt file shouldn’t ever have an odd number of bytes, right?

tall temple May 25, 2021, 3:31 AM

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I do believe you are right

austere oak May 25, 2021, 3:31 AM

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Good, thank you

median blade May 25, 2021, 3:33 AM

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@wide totem

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you have experience with poetry i guess?

wide totem May 25, 2021, 3:34 AM

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Some ye

median blade May 25, 2021, 3:34 AM

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ok so

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do i push the entire proj with the pyproject.toml to git or just the main proj itself

wide totem May 25, 2021, 3:35 AM

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Ooh, pr 2 was just merged

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Push pyproject.toml

median blade May 25, 2021, 3:35 AM

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alright

languid osprey May 25, 2021, 3:35 AM

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Yes

wide totem May 25, 2021, 3:35 AM

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discord-modmail/site#1

rustic harborBOT May 25, 2021, 3:35 AM

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GitHub

PRMerged Linting workflow and fix license

languid osprey May 25, 2021, 3:35 AM

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Pyproject is necesarry

median blade May 25, 2021, 3:35 AM

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deps

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and stuff

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yeah

languid osprey May 25, 2021, 3:35 AM

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Push your .lock file too

daring jay May 25, 2021, 3:35 AM

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You should also push poetry.lock

languid osprey May 25, 2021, 3:35 AM

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Yep

wide totem May 25, 2021, 3:35 AM

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^

median blade May 25, 2021, 3:36 AM

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aight

wide totem May 25, 2021, 3:36 AM

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Look at the repo linked above to see about it

median blade May 25, 2021, 3:36 AM

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ok so next thing, is there a pipenv run like feature with poetry

wide totem May 25, 2021, 3:36 AM

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We just set that repo up, so you can see most of the stuff used

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Aha I need to make CONTRIBUTING.MD

daring jay May 25, 2021, 3:36 AM

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median blade ok so next thing, is there a pipenv run like feature with poetry

There's poetry run ____

languid osprey May 25, 2021, 3:36 AM

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Mhm

median blade May 25, 2021, 3:37 AM

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but like can i set it up

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so that i just do poetry run

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and it runs the filei want

wide totem May 25, 2021, 3:37 AM

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"poetry run something"
I use taskipy as a dev dep so I can define scripts in the pyproject file

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Ex poetry run task lint

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Runs pre-commit

median blade May 25, 2021, 3:38 AM

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hmm

wide totem May 25, 2021, 3:40 AM

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Fwiw if you look at the pr linked above

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All of that code in the repo at that point was just linting and workflows

median blade May 25, 2021, 3:41 AM

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nice

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thanks :)

dim root May 25, 2021, 4:12 AM

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you can also use poet

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it would then be poe lint

hidden rose May 25, 2021, 5:21 AM

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wicked hollow <@!673649624250056721> I think you're looking for: ```c typedef struct s_info { ...

Yeah I cant do int size: 16 inside the struct otherwise that would be a bit-field, not an int of value 16. So I would have to declar the size outside like how you did. Thanks!

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And the proper way to free would be to first free info->num_array and then info struct:

free(info->num_array);
free(info);

jovial island May 25, 2021, 8:43 AM

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is it expected that a 8 core last gen cpu cannot playback 8k 60fps video from youtube?

median blade May 25, 2021, 8:43 AM

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No

jovial island May 25, 2021, 8:44 AM

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hmm

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interesting

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i have other stuff running too tho

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And like

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It's 60 gbit s of data

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each second

median blade May 25, 2021, 8:45 AM

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Ok you need a good gpu

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Which GPU do you have

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...

jovial island May 25, 2021, 8:49 AM

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3060

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mobile

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(sorry i am late)

odd sphinx May 25, 2021, 8:50 AM

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@median blade the mans replied

jovial island May 25, 2021, 8:50 AM

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it uses like %975 cpu

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that's like 10 threads

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fully working on playbacking one youtube video

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i think the problem is chrome not doing hardware acceleration

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bcos gpu only draws 30W max

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nvm it draws up to 70W

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but still

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it drops like %30 of frames

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I found the issue

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hardware acceleration off actually turns it on lmao

small depot May 25, 2021, 9:27 AM

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||~~JsOn Is A dAtAbAsE~~||

hazy laurel May 25, 2021, 9:31 AM

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yes

median blade May 25, 2021, 11:40 AM

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aight

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whats the difference between .rst and .md files

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can i just replace the .rst with a .md which was pregenerated by poetry

sinful sun May 25, 2021, 11:43 AM

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They use different syntax afaik
If theyre equivalent then yea, idk why people use rst instead of md

round moss May 25, 2021, 12:26 PM

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it is similar enough that it may just work, but they are slightly different languages

sudden swallow May 25, 2021, 1:04 PM

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round moss it is similar enough that it may just work, but they are slightly different lang...

Where does the bot make up the ot names from lol

daring jay May 25, 2021, 1:05 PM

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Mods and admins can add them

crude trail May 25, 2021, 2:26 PM

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What a coincidence.

I am currently thinking about saving my ISO-639-1 JSON as a model in my DB and feel called out

idle comet May 25, 2021, 2:45 PM

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median blade can i just replace the .rst with a .md which was pregenerated by poetry

@round moss actually, markdown and reStructuredText are very different, with rst being the more advanced format
https://pandoc.org/try/?text=%23+title -+list -+list+element+2 _italics_ [hyperref](https%3A%2F%2Fexample.com)&from=markdown&to=rst&standalone=0
here, have a comparison

round moss May 25, 2021, 2:46 PM

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that example is almost the same

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but yeah, maybe not enough to just use one as the other

idle comet May 25, 2021, 2:48 PM

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its definitely not supposed to be transferrable. be aware, my example here was VERY basic for what rst can do

delicate lion May 25, 2021, 2:51 PM

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ok who named this channel it makes me angry

idle comet May 25, 2021, 2:51 PM

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have a more advanced example that i had to link shortenbecause the URL is longer than 2k chars https://u.nu/rsttomd

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wait

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oof i think i broke the link shortener

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here https://paste.pythondiscord.com/upelisamin.url

dusky cliff May 25, 2021, 2:53 PM

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because the URL is longer than 2k chars
sorry what

idle comet May 25, 2021, 2:54 PM

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dusky cliff > because the URL is longer than 2k chars sorry what

pandoc encodes the entire text in the url

dusky cliff May 25, 2021, 2:54 PM

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tf

tawdry salmon May 25, 2021, 2:55 PM

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I love the channel name

jovial island May 25, 2021, 4:26 PM

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json is a db wtf

sinful sun May 25, 2021, 4:34 PM

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breh

sinful sun May 25, 2021, 5:11 PM

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breh

#

class ItemBase(BaseModel):
    title: str
    description: Optional[str] = None
    calories: int

why does this post request go through

{
    "title": "water",
    "description": 10,
    "calories": 0
}

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shouldnt it error because i gave it an int

round moss May 25, 2021, 5:12 PM

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it seems to have an implicit conversion

sinful sun May 25, 2021, 5:13 PM

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whats the point of pydantic if its gonna convert things without me telling it to lmao

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theres a strictstr type apparently

sinful sun May 25, 2021, 5:28 PM

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travis ci is having an aneurysm with build configs

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automate your testing they said

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im trying to use the trigger build feature and its running duplicate commands and then failing the build

#

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fun times

jovial island May 25, 2021, 6:14 PM

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It got deleted?

slow valve May 25, 2021, 6:43 PM

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#ot2-the-original-pubsta sure

jovial island May 25, 2021, 7:25 PM

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NO

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I do not know why they will match the json format to be a database, I think we would optimize the database if we did not unnecessarily transform a python dictionary to a json dictionary

#

also if I would create my own database I would use a compression algorithm, I imagined your database has many but not so much to match BIG or MEDIUM Data, the encoding is utf-8, your file will have a size of 80mb while with compression we will have 3kb and very fast when reading and writing.

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this has the bad databases in pypi
• import json,
• open("database", "r+")

good databases:
• import lz4framed
import ast
• _io

round moss May 25, 2021, 7:36 PM

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I mean, it is hard to beat sqlite3 when it comes to easy databases

jovial island May 25, 2021, 7:37 PM

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i think sqlite3 has over 100000 lines of code (7mb)

round moss May 25, 2021, 7:38 PM

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Yeah

#

But it is still the best option that is a meaningful improvement over json

#

It's part of the standard library, and even on platforms where you link it dynamically, enough things depend on it that you likely need it anyway

jovial island May 25, 2021, 7:41 PM

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it is good for small projects or that do not require big data

round moss May 25, 2021, 7:41 PM

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Yup

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Or well, tasks that aren't write bound

#

It is pretty ok for even sizable datasets when reading

jovial island May 25, 2021, 7:42 PM

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I mean to have 6tb of data

round moss May 25, 2021, 7:42 PM

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Yeah, sqlite3 is not the tool there

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You need specialized stuff

wispy wave May 25, 2021, 8:02 PM

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I hate the channel name so much

woven stag May 25, 2021, 8:21 PM

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same

idle comet May 25, 2021, 9:30 PM

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but obviously json IS a database, DUH

lime drum May 25, 2021, 9:33 PM

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laundmo, you ok?

idle comet May 25, 2021, 9:37 PM

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lime drum laundmo, you ok?

i may or may not have assumed that DUH would mark sarcasm clearly enough

lime drum May 25, 2021, 9:38 PM

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nope, obviously UDH

tall mural May 25, 2021, 10:53 PM

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json is the best

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lucas tutorials are too.

oblique grove May 25, 2021, 10:55 PM

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what is a .json file?

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csv files for js?

cerulean panther May 25, 2021, 10:56 PM

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oblique grove what is a .json file?

JavaScript Object Notation

oblique grove May 25, 2021, 10:56 PM

#

what is it?

cerulean panther May 25, 2021, 10:56 PM

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oblique grove csv files for js?

many other languages support JSON files too

cerulean panther May 25, 2021, 10:57 PM

#

oblique grove what is it?

data storage thing, its literally just lists and dicts

oblique grove May 25, 2021, 10:57 PM

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cerulean panther data storage thing, its literally just lists and dicts

ok.. thx!

tall mural May 25, 2021, 10:58 PM

#

looks like this for example

{
    "x": "y"
}
``` ||![yert](https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/832277526809149461.webp?size=128 "yert")||

hidden kernel May 25, 2021, 11:25 PM

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@ancient summit en taro adude, my dun

wide totem May 26, 2021, 1:41 AM

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hidden kernel <@!751181296671129650> en taro adude, my dun

!rule 4

clever salmonBOT May 26, 2021, 1:41 AM

#

Rules

4. Use English to the best of your ability. Be polite if someone speaks English imperfectly.

cerulean panther May 26, 2021, 1:42 AM

#

waht

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bruh chill its a joke lmao, or i think it is

dusky cliff May 26, 2021, 3:27 AM

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wide totem !rule 4

HA

median blade May 26, 2021, 3:27 AM

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Ha

woven hornet May 26, 2021, 4:12 AM

#

Screenshot_2021-05-26_at_12.11.42_PM.png

#

would the big O for line 2 and 3 be O(n)?

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since it's iterating from i = 0 to i = (2^x)n

viral hare May 26, 2021, 4:22 AM

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i mean if ur just ignoring x then yeah

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well n halves each time and x increases by 1 each time

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which means it cancels out in the n*2^x cuz (n/2) 2^(x+1) = n/2 * 2 * 2^x

#

and since ur basically dividing n by 2 each time, u call program4 log(n) times

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and u get overall of log(n) * n * 2^x (not sure if u can simplify this further) if u want to account for the effect of both variables.

woven hornet May 26, 2021, 7:02 AM

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viral hare and since ur basically dividing n by 2 each time, u call program4 log(n) times

oh so if you are calling it every divided by 2 it's logn times

#

Thanks!

somber belfry May 26, 2021, 7:04 AM

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O(n) is the same as O(n/2)

#

did you del- guess you figured it out 😄

woven hornet May 26, 2021, 7:05 AM

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somber belfry did you del- guess you figured it out 😄

Yeah I thought of an eg and I get why I'm wrong thanks

oak flume May 26, 2021, 9:19 AM

#

hey

jovial island May 26, 2021, 1:16 PM

#

hey

#

.topic

rustic harborBOT May 26, 2021, 1:16 PM

#

**What is the most satisfying thing you've done in your life?**

Suggest more topics here!

jovial island May 26, 2021, 1:17 PM

#

Set arson

magic atlas May 26, 2021, 1:20 PM

#

jovial island Set arson

Erm, excuse me? 🤨

jovial island May 26, 2021, 1:20 PM

#

In games

magic atlas May 26, 2021, 1:21 PM

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Riight... ok.

plain forge May 26, 2021, 1:46 PM

#

can you update windows 10 32 bit too 64 bit without deleting any files

#

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaanswer

#

please

jovial island May 26, 2021, 1:47 PM

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Be patient bruh

plain forge May 26, 2021, 1:48 PM

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jovial island Be patient bruh

are u mod?

jovial island May 26, 2021, 1:48 PM

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No I'm god

plain forge May 26, 2021, 1:48 PM

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jovial island No I'm god

hahahahahaha

plain forge May 26, 2021, 1:50 PM

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jovial island No I'm god

who are u

odd sphinx May 26, 2021, 1:55 PM

#

jovial island No I'm god

damn

jovial island May 26, 2021, 1:56 PM

#

Ik

languid osprey May 26, 2021, 3:54 PM

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Fuck

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I just did an assignment for half an hour

#

and guess what

#

its fucking gone

lament kestrel May 26, 2021, 4:09 PM

#

F

#

That Feel when you Forget to save

drifting venture May 26, 2021, 4:52 PM

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That blows

hybrid basin May 26, 2021, 4:55 PM

#

F

hot pulsar May 26, 2021, 4:57 PM

#

lol @pastel nest

pastel nest May 26, 2021, 4:58 PM

#

hot pulsar lol <@!769221607888912487>

i have been pingethed

hot pulsar May 26, 2021, 4:58 PM

#

yes

gaunt jacinth May 26, 2021, 5:39 PM

#

pinged for the hell of it

hot pulsar May 26, 2021, 5:43 PM

#

@idle raptor its like he ignores everything we say lol

idle raptor May 26, 2021, 5:47 PM

#

hot pulsar <@!330810865312071700> its like he ignores everything we say lol

exactly

#

i think he just copied the code from somewhere

tall mural May 26, 2021, 6:36 PM

#

.topic

rustic harborBOT May 26, 2021, 6:36 PM

#

**If you could be anyone else for one day, who would it be?**

Suggest more topics here!

tall mural May 26, 2021, 6:36 PM

#

amogus

#

impostor

fresh reef May 26, 2021, 9:13 PM

#

ipmaosata

jovial island May 26, 2021, 9:57 PM

#

tall mural amogus

Sus

tall mural May 26, 2021, 9:57 PM

#

trust me

tall mural May 26, 2021, 10:19 PM

#

.topic

rustic harborBOT May 26, 2021, 10:19 PM

#

**What is your favourite food?**

Suggest more topics here!

tall mural May 26, 2021, 10:19 PM

#

eggs

#

no one care.

#

.topic

rustic harborBOT May 26, 2021, 10:20 PM

#

**What is your favourite color?**

Suggest more topics here!

tall mural May 26, 2021, 10:20 PM

#

cyan.

shy oracle May 27, 2021, 4:30 AM

#

.topic

rustic harborBOT May 27, 2021, 4:30 AM

#

**What is the most satisfying thing you've done in your life?**

Suggest more topics here!

shy oracle May 27, 2021, 4:31 AM

#

.

#

.topic

rustic harborBOT May 27, 2021, 4:31 AM

#

**If you could travel anywhere in the world, where would you go?**

Suggest more topics here!

shy oracle May 27, 2021, 4:31 AM

#

amreica

#

.topic

rustic harborBOT May 27, 2021, 4:31 AM

#

**What is your favorite movie?**

Suggest more topics here!

shy oracle May 27, 2021, 4:31 AM

#

.

#

.topic

rustic harborBOT May 27, 2021, 4:32 AM

#

**What is the best scenery you've ever seen?**

Suggest more topics here!

shy oracle May 27, 2021, 4:32 AM

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why u asking mr questions that can go totaly wrong

#

.topic

rustic harborBOT May 27, 2021, 4:32 AM

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**If you could have any superpower, what would it be?**

Suggest more topics here!

shy oracle May 27, 2021, 4:33 AM

#

main character

#

.topic

rustic harborBOT May 27, 2021, 4:33 AM

#

**What is your favourite Easter candy or treat?**

Suggest more topics here!

shy oracle May 27, 2021, 4:33 AM

#

chocolate

#

.topic

rustic harborBOT May 27, 2021, 4:33 AM

#

**What book do you highly recommend everyone to read?**

Suggest more topics here!

shy oracle May 27, 2021, 4:33 AM

#

dont read books kids

#

.topic

rustic harborBOT May 27, 2021, 4:33 AM

#

**What is your favorite media genre?**

Suggest more topics here!

shy oracle May 27, 2021, 4:34 AM

#

.topic

rustic harborBOT May 27, 2021, 4:34 AM

#

**Would you rather fight 100 duck sized horses or one horse sized duck?**

Suggest more topics here!

shy oracle May 27, 2021, 4:34 AM

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horse sized duck

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im not getting any points whats the point

odd sphinx May 27, 2021, 4:35 AM

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lol

patent elbow May 27, 2021, 5:37 AM

#

@knotty anvil giv all frog emotes

knotty anvil May 27, 2021, 5:39 AM

#

patent elbow <@270700034985558017> giv all frog emotes

wat CH_Pepebruh

patent elbow May 27, 2021, 5:41 AM

#

knotty anvil wat <:CH_Pepebruh:705030759882293288>

Yes

odd sphinx May 27, 2021, 5:41 AM

#

pepe*

knotty anvil May 27, 2021, 5:41 AM

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yea lmao, wtf frog

#

PepeBruh

patent elbow May 27, 2021, 5:43 AM

#

knotty anvil <:PepeBruh:821547568232136714>

#discord-bots message this

knotty anvil May 27, 2021, 5:43 AM

#

patent elbow https://discord.com/channels/267624335836053506/343944376055103488/8473423187846...

bruhFrog

patent elbow May 27, 2021, 5:43 AM

#

More

knotty anvil May 27, 2021, 5:44 AM

#

peepowut bro how many u need

patent elbow May 27, 2021, 5:44 AM

#

depends

knotty anvil May 27, 2021, 5:45 AM

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peeposus ok

tranquil ridge May 27, 2021, 5:47 AM

#

PepeCoolNerd

knotty anvil May 27, 2021, 5:47 AM

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yo that actually bumps time to yoink

#

Pepepointfinger

patent elbow May 27, 2021, 5:48 AM

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@tranquil ridge you look familiar jam_cavedude

tranquil ridge May 27, 2021, 5:48 AM

#

KokoroEyes

patent elbow May 27, 2021, 5:48 AM

#

Hata best

knotty anvil May 27, 2021, 5:49 AM

#

touhou EMOJIS

#

PepeBruh YOINK

patent elbow May 27, 2021, 5:50 AM

#

Switch to hata andy

#

Like real men

knotty anvil May 27, 2021, 5:50 AM

#

no :/

patent elbow May 27, 2021, 5:50 AM

#

😔

knotty anvil May 27, 2021, 5:51 AM

#

vibe

patent elbow May 27, 2021, 5:52 AM

#

knotty anvil <:bruhFrog:620330406960693282>

I need those frogs, I saved all the pepes when global emotes were sacrificed

#

😔

knotty anvil May 27, 2021, 5:53 AM

#

Ok ill send all

patent elbow May 27, 2021, 5:54 AM

#

In the dm Or they will mute

pliant trench May 27, 2021, 2:40 PM

#

what's the fastest way to exit vim ?

tranquil ridge May 27, 2021, 2:40 PM

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isnt :q fast enough for you

pliant trench May 27, 2021, 2:40 PM

#

that's just for fun

round moss May 27, 2021, 2:40 PM

#

ZZ

tranquil ridge May 27, 2021, 2:40 PM

#

map it to some other keybinding

pliant trench May 27, 2021, 2:41 PM

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round moss ZZ

lak's always here lol

#

I remember lak cheated last time lol

#

or was it someone else...

round moss May 27, 2021, 2:43 PM

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I think I did cheat

pliant trench May 27, 2021, 2:43 PM

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lol

round moss May 27, 2021, 2:43 PM

#

[adam@DESKTOP-319402F ~]$ echo exit >> .vimrc
[adam@DESKTOP-319402F ~]$ time vim

real    0m0.005s
user    0m0.000s
sys     0m0.005s
```I think I got a worse result than this sol though

pliant trench May 27, 2021, 2:44 PM

#

did you use this one last time ?

round moss May 27, 2021, 2:45 PM

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I think I piped :q to vim

pliant trench May 27, 2021, 2:45 PM

#

oh

pliant trench May 27, 2021, 2:45 PM

#

round moss ```py [adam@DESKTOP-319402F ~]$ echo exit >> .vimrc [adam@DESKTOP-319402F ~]$ ti...

is that zsh or bash?

round moss May 27, 2021, 2:46 PM

#

bash

pliant trench May 27, 2021, 2:47 PM

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[pouridev@pouridev-pc ~]$ time vim --noplugin --cmd ":q" & killall -9 vim

real    0m0.004s
user    0m0.004s
sys    0m0.000s

#

here you go

#

I don't think I can make it faster

keen burrow May 27, 2021, 2:51 PM

#

pliant trench I don't think I can make it faster

alias vim=true

pliant trench May 27, 2021, 2:52 PM

#

that's beyond cheating

keen burrow May 27, 2021, 2:52 PM

#

:P

soft quiver May 27, 2021, 4:39 PM

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hey @blissful pollen you mentioned that pablo galindo said I should use soft keywords in yeethon, i dont suppose you'd know how I could achieve that? I've looked around and found something called _PyPegen_expect_soft_keyword but it doesn't seem to appear in Python.gram so I'm not quite sure how match and case actually define themselves as soft :D

blissful pollen May 27, 2021, 4:52 PM

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soft quiver hey <@!688057416062861319> you mentioned that pablo galindo said I should use so...

pegen's c_generator.py generates a *soft_keywords table and match/case are in it. True keywords are single-quoted strings in the grammar, soft keywords are double-quoted strings.

soft quiver May 27, 2021, 4:53 PM

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haha no wonder i didnt find that, it's a pretty subtle change, thanks!

blissful pollen May 27, 2021, 5:32 PM

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@soft quiver not sure why the soft keyword wouldn't work

#

I haven't tried adding any myself in PEG and my LL1 experience is useless now 😉

soft quiver May 27, 2021, 5:34 PM

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yeah, its odd, the keyword should definitely be there, and its listed in keyword.softkwlist, so my best guess is that having ('del' | "yeet") rather than just yeet is somehow messing it up

keen quarry May 28, 2021, 1:11 AM

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So some random account DMed me from here.

sinful sun May 28, 2021, 1:17 AM

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Report it through @vapid maple

woven hornet May 28, 2021, 3:24 AM

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ive asked this before but i still dont get it

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i get the intention is to reduce any duplication of values calculated so u create a memory array to store the value then check if the value has been calculated before, if it isnt then calculate the new one

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but in line 7 when u set memoryArray[i] = -1 does it replace all the values in the array to -1

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so if u r returning memory[n] afterwards, would it return the previous fib value or -1

viral hare May 28, 2021, 3:25 AM

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lol its a dp problem

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those are kinda intresting but not always trivial

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essentially u set them all to -1 cuz u havent "visited" the numbers yet

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hence y in that helper function there is a check if the number is -1

woven hornet May 28, 2021, 3:27 AM

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viral hare those are kinda intresting but not always trivial

ya but afterwards u return memory[n]

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would it return an array of -1

viral hare May 28, 2021, 3:28 AM

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u only return memory[n] if the value isnt -1

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which means u return it if u visited it before

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and the else happens if u get -1 from memory which it does a computation for it

woven hornet May 28, 2021, 3:28 AM

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viral hare u only return memory[n] if the value isnt -1

i dont get why when the value != -1 it means u visited it before

viral hare May 28, 2021, 3:29 AM

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u know how u set them all to -1 in the beginning

woven hornet May 28, 2021, 3:29 AM

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isit like u create a memory array with all the values u have, then u set all of them to -1

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yeah

viral hare May 28, 2021, 3:29 AM

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-1 means u havent visited it

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honestly if i had to implement this i would use a hashmap and do like a get

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on an index

woven hornet May 28, 2021, 3:30 AM

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yeah so let say u input n as 5

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then it would give [0, 1, 1, 2, 3, 5]

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right

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then what u doing is

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creating a memory array of [0, 1, 1, 2, 3, 5]

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then afterwards setting them as [-1, -1, -1, -1, -1, -1]

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?

viral hare May 28, 2021, 3:31 AM

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oh no u first create an array of 6 elements

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they are not initalized which means its a compiler default value

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and then u set them all to -1

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before u compute any fib number

woven hornet May 28, 2021, 3:32 AM

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ohhh

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i get it

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omg

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i see

viral hare May 28, 2021, 3:32 AM

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the -1 is the "initalization" of the array

woven hornet May 28, 2021, 3:32 AM

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thankss!

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yeah

viral hare May 28, 2021, 3:32 AM

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imo a cleaner way would to be use a dict

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u still get constant lookup

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and u dont need to initialize -1

woven hornet May 28, 2021, 3:34 AM

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oh yeah

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true

jovial island May 28, 2021, 6:36 AM

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I agree webhooks are people too

median blade May 28, 2021, 6:37 AM

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ok

magic current May 28, 2021, 7:19 AM

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jovial island I agree webhooks are people too

I suppose I agree too, they have sender IDs. Like a user ID.

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You can find the ID on phone or rclick it while network panel open

fluid plank May 28, 2021, 9:25 AM

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~~webhooks are people too hmm imma get some hookas~~

tiny sorrel May 28, 2021, 12:30 PM

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!class

clever salmonBOT May 28, 2021, 12:30 PM

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Classes

Classes are used to create objects that have specific behavior.

Every object in python has a class, including lists, dictionaries and even numbers. Using a class to group code and data like this is the foundation of Object Oriented Programming. Classes allow you to expose a simple, consistent interface while hiding the more complicated details. This simplifies the rest of your program and makes it easier to separately maintain and debug each component.

Here is an example class:

class Foo:
    def __init__(self, somedata):
        self.my_attrib = somedata

    def show(self):
        print(self.my_attrib)

To use a class, you need to instantiate it. The following creates a new object named bar, with Foo as its class.

bar = Foo('data')
bar.show()

We can access any of Foo's methods via bar.my_method(), and access any of bars data via bar.my_attribute.

tiny sorrel May 28, 2021, 12:30 PM

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!classes

clever salmonBOT May 28, 2021, 12:30 PM

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Did you mean ...

classmethod
class

tiny sorrel May 28, 2021, 12:30 PM

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!classmethod

clever salmonBOT May 28, 2021, 12:30 PM

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Although most methods are tied to an object instance, it can sometimes be useful to create a method that does something with the class itself. To achieve this in Python, you can use the @classmethod decorator. This is often used to provide alternative constructors for a class.

For example, you may be writing a class that takes some magic token (like an API key) as a constructor argument, but you sometimes read this token from a configuration file. You could make use of a @classmethod to create an alternate constructor for when you want to read from the configuration file.

class Bot:
    def __init__(self, token: str):
        self._token = token  

    @classmethod
    def from_config(cls, config: dict) -> Bot:
        token = config['token']
        return cls(token)

# now we can create the bot instance like this
alternative_bot = Bot.from_config(default_config)

# but this still works, too
regular_bot = Bot("tokenstring")

This is just one of the many use cases of @classmethod. A more in-depth explanation can be found here.

tiny sorrel May 28, 2021, 12:30 PM

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i dont understand at all

dusky cliff May 28, 2021, 12:36 PM

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tiny sorrel i dont understand at all

classes or classmethods?

tiny sorrel May 28, 2021, 12:37 PM

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both

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i dont understand the difference

dusky cliff May 28, 2021, 12:42 PM

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tiny sorrel both

as for classes
classes are a way to make a bunch of objects which have the same properties and behaviours

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for example

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if Human was a class

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jack could be one object of the class, john could be another

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lmao

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lurc

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anyway
they'd have the attributes and methods as defined in the Human class

tiny sorrel May 28, 2021, 12:44 PM

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that kind of makes sense

dusky cliff May 28, 2021, 12:44 PM

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classmethods aren't directly related to this concept

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basically

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all functions in a class take in a class object as the first parameter

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usually named self

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then the function would work with this object

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if walk was a function in the Human class, it would look like:

class Human:
  def walk(self):

and if you did john.walk(), self would be set to the john object, if you called jack.walk(), self would be set to the jack object

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this is the default behaviour, where the first parameter is an object of the class

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In a classmethod however, the class itself is the first parameter

grim seal May 28, 2021, 1:04 PM

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oh quic RFC passed

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that's dope as heckk

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this is fantastic news

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oh I see you mentioned it earlier @half timber hah

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I wonder if the DNS roots will consider DNS-over-QUIC

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they for obvious reason rejected DoH and DoT because of their stateful nature, the roots can't operate like that

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but QUIC remains UDP, which is advantageous

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I guess the fact facebook were using QUIC heavily encouraged IETF to pass it

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iirc it's an RFC requirement that there is existing implementation

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holy heck https://engineering.fb.com/2020/10/21/networking-traffic/how-facebook-is-bringing-quic-to-billions/

Facebook Engineering

Chris Wiltz

How Facebook is bringing QUIC to billions - Facebook Engineering

Implementing QUIC is the latest step we’ve taken to optimize our network protocols to create a better experience for people on our services.

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Today, more than 75 percent of our internet traffic uses QUIC and HTTP/3 (we refer to QUIC and HTTP/3 together as QUIC).

half timber May 28, 2021, 1:15 PM

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what am i.. oh yeah lol

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it's both good and questionable when it's semi abused to deliver ads

median blade May 28, 2021, 1:52 PM

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Damn

woven hornet May 28, 2021, 3:15 PM

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Screenshot_2021-05-28_at_11.14.52_PM.png

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for lines 4 to 10

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isit the case where high == low is when the array only has one value?

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while high < low, isnt it it could be the list is unsorted?

echo fern May 28, 2021, 3:19 PM

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woven hornet isit the case where `high == low` is when the array only has one value?

high==low will always eventually happen as the function recursively calls itself.

echo fern May 28, 2021, 3:19 PM

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woven hornet while `high < low`, isnt it it could be the list is unsorted?

high<low, meanwhile, just means that the user passed an incorrect range for some reason, so a null they get (which is a bad idea IMO, one should throw an exception in such a case).

woven hornet May 28, 2021, 3:20 PM

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echo fern `high==low` will always eventually happen as the function recursively calls itse...

oh right yeah

woven hornet May 28, 2021, 3:20 PM

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echo fern `high<low`, meanwhile, just means that the user passed an incorrect range for so...

oh i see

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thx

woven hornet May 28, 2021, 3:56 PM

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Screenshot_2021-05-28_at_11.50.32_PM.png

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is it in line 10, it's setting int small as 2^31-1?

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that's how Integer.MAX_VALUE work?

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i dont get whats happening in line 12, for (int j = i; j < newArr.length; j++)

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what are they iterating?

echo fern May 28, 2021, 3:59 PM

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woven hornet that's how `Integer.MAX_VALUE` work?

yeah

echo fern May 28, 2021, 3:59 PM

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woven hornet what are they iterating?

wdym what?

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selection sort works by finding the element that should go on each position, basically

dusky cliff May 28, 2021, 4:00 PM

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woven hornet i dont get whats happening in line 12, `for (int j = i; j < newArr.length; j++)`

it's because at the ith iteration the first i items are already sorted, so the inner loop starts at i

echo fern May 28, 2021, 4:00 PM

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so you find the minimum of the array and place it at first place. Then you find the minimum of all the other elements and place it at the second place, and so on.

woven hornet May 28, 2021, 4:03 PM

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dusky cliff it's because at the `i`th iteration the first `i` items are already sorted, so t...

i dont get how the first i items are sorted before the j loop, we are jus assigning the int small and smallIndex? i dont see wheres it being sorted

dusky cliff May 28, 2021, 4:03 PM

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at the first iteration, it starts from the first item

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after the j-loop ends, it has found the minimum number in the whole array

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it then swaps the first item in the array with the min number

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so the first iteration of i fixes the first position

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similarly

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in the second iteration of i, it finds the smallest number in the array, excluding the first number which is already fixed

woven hornet May 28, 2021, 4:04 PM

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oh yeah

dusky cliff May 28, 2021, 4:05 PM

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so the second iteration of i fixes the first 2 positions

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generalizing, after n iterations of i, the first n positions get sorted

woven hornet May 28, 2021, 4:06 PM

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right yeah i get it

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the reason why they use Integer.MAX_VALUE is cuz they dunno the max value in the array?

dusky cliff May 28, 2021, 4:07 PM

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yeah, so the small variable gets overwritten at the first opportunity

woven hornet May 28, 2021, 4:14 PM

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okay thanks both i gotit!

odd sphinx May 28, 2021, 4:49 PM

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nice

jovial island May 28, 2021, 5:14 PM

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true

ebon tusk May 28, 2021, 5:17 PM

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!pypi pyunity

clever salmonBOT May 28, 2021, 5:17 PM

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pyunity v0.4.0

A Python implementation of the Unity Engine

woven hornet May 28, 2021, 5:17 PM

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Can I ask for stuff like sorting and searching algorithms I want to be able to code them quickly, I'm still in the midst of learning them. But I feel the transition from understanding how it works to writing the pseudocode/implementing it is hard. Like once we get the general idea, how shd we proceed?

jovial island May 28, 2021, 5:29 PM

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you can ask.

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#algos-and-data-structs this a nice place for that too btw.

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searching algos are mainly just 2 btw, linear sort (O(n)) easy af, and another sort which is done on sorted list.

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O(logn)

dusky cliff May 28, 2021, 5:30 PM

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||linear search* another search*||

sinful sun May 28, 2021, 5:31 PM

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Binary search

jovial island May 28, 2021, 5:31 PM

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i forgot name

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yeah binary search

dusky cliff May 28, 2021, 5:31 PM

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clairvoyance

jovial island May 28, 2021, 5:31 PM

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hey we wrote together.

sinful sun May 28, 2021, 5:32 PM

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Well thats the most popular search algo thats log n

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Idk if theres more

dusky cliff May 28, 2021, 5:32 PM

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log n is probably about as good as it gets

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I mean if you're just checking if something exists its ||almost|| O(1) with a set

jovial island May 28, 2021, 5:32 PM

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~~if data is in hash then O(1)~~

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jeez

dusky cliff May 28, 2021, 5:32 PM

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jinx

jovial island May 28, 2021, 5:33 PM

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you're weird you're reading the goddamn future

sinful sun May 28, 2021, 5:33 PM

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Thats not really a search tho

dusky cliff May 28, 2021, 5:33 PM

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yeah

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except O(1), O(log n) is probably the best possible complexity for any alg

jovial island May 28, 2021, 5:34 PM

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*searching algo on list(sorted)

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Hello collections of atoms

viral hare May 28, 2021, 6:39 PM

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ackerman function be like

ornate mist May 28, 2021, 7:19 PM

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can anyone give examples of objectively oriented languages in which it is impossible to implement some Gang of Four pattern?

viral hare May 28, 2021, 7:29 PM

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welp i think i remember reading that the singleton pattern is rather frowned upon in python

grim seal May 28, 2021, 8:17 PM

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😔

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nearly there

hazy laurel May 28, 2021, 8:19 PM

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Rust compile times :c

grim seal May 28, 2021, 8:19 PM

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indeed

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it's wild

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this cli tool does arguably do quite a lot, so it's understandable there are a lot of deps, but sheesh

hazy laurel May 28, 2021, 8:22 PM

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Yes, my laptop gets fairly hot when compiling bigger programs lol

wide totem May 28, 2021, 9:00 PM

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@rapid zinc smh

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you're using my people 😳

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#ot2-the-original-pubsta

lime drum May 28, 2021, 9:16 PM

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grim seal this cli tool does arguably do quite a lot, so it's understandable there are a l...

tbf its only the first time

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when all the deps are built the build times are fast af

grim seal May 28, 2021, 9:24 PM

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lime drum tbf its only the first time

hmmmm, they haven't been super fast for me even after

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well

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i mean depends on how fast you consider super fast lol

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I'm getting 1 minute build time for https://github.com/cloudflare/wrangler for a one file change

GitHub

cloudflare/wrangler

🤠 wrangle your cloudflare workers. Contribute to cloudflare/wrangler development by creating an account on GitHub.

lime drum May 28, 2021, 9:27 PM

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tbf thats extremely fast for a project that size

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idk how long a similarly sized cpp or c project would take

grim seal May 28, 2021, 9:29 PM

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lol

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that is true

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but yeah I don't do enough large rust projects to know

lime drum May 28, 2021, 9:36 PM

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also thats completely ignoring the speed of dev builds

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which are wicked fast

grim seal May 28, 2021, 9:54 PM

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ya this is a dev build

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am adding a command https://github.com/cloudflare/wrangler/pull/1941

GitHub

Add `wrangler zone` command by jb3 · Pull Request #1941 · cloudflar...

What?
Adds a wrangler zone command to find the ID of a zone straight from the wrangler CLI.

Why?
When generating a new project with wrangler you are directed to the dashboard for the final step to...

lime drum May 28, 2021, 10:04 PM

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grim seal ya this is a dev build

dev build taking a minute? 🤨

grim seal May 28, 2021, 10:04 PM

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yeah

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on a macbook air, bear in mind lol

lime drum May 28, 2021, 10:05 PM

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bruh

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how long did the release build take KEKW

grim seal May 28, 2021, 10:05 PM

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dev

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lol, will try release

viral hare May 28, 2021, 10:06 PM

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can cargo build with multiple threads

lime drum May 28, 2021, 10:06 PM

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yeah

viral hare May 28, 2021, 10:06 PM

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like can u specify or sth

lime drum May 28, 2021, 10:06 PM

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grim seal lol, will try release

sure ill check in in a day or so lmao

viral hare May 28, 2021, 10:06 PM

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or does it pick a number for u

grim seal May 28, 2021, 10:06 PM

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oh fuck no nevermind, lol. not waiting for all this lol

viral hare May 28, 2021, 10:06 PM

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building llvm be like

lime drum May 28, 2021, 10:06 PM

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viral hare like can u specify or sth

Automatically uses everything available

viral hare May 28, 2021, 10:07 PM

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1 hr build time

lime drum May 28, 2021, 10:07 PM

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grim seal oh fuck no nevermind, lol. not waiting for all this lol

https://tenor.com/view/tease-anime-gif-16120306

Tenor

lime drum May 28, 2021, 10:07 PM

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viral hare 1 hr build time

single core aint it?

viral hare May 28, 2021, 10:08 PM

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thats like if u run make with out specifying any cores

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which is like gg

terse bison May 29, 2021, 1:03 AM

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Hello

real forum May 29, 2021, 2:33 AM

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OMG YES

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ITS TIME

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I am now famous

median blade May 29, 2021, 2:33 AM

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No

upbeat sandal May 29, 2021, 2:35 AM

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!e print(True * 3 + (True + True) + True * 7)

clever salmonBOT May 29, 2021, 2:35 AM

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@upbeat sandal :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.

upbeat sandal May 29, 2021, 2:36 AM

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That was Chili's idea

real forum May 29, 2021, 2:36 AM

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yes but instead of being a normie and writing True I spammed a bunch of dunders and achieved the same thing

upbeat sandal May 29, 2021, 2:37 AM

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Okay but what about

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!e print(21 << True)

clever salmonBOT May 29, 2021, 2:37 AM

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@upbeat sandal :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.

upbeat sandal May 29, 2021, 2:40 AM

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!e print(((21 << True) ^ 384) - 6)

clever salmonBOT May 29, 2021, 2:40 AM

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@upbeat sandal :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.

upbeat sandal May 29, 2021, 2:40 AM

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@real forum BLAZE IT

real forum May 29, 2021, 2:41 AM

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lmao SHEEESH

sweet wind May 29, 2021, 2:41 AM

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upbeat sandal !e print(21 << True)

can someone explain this sorcery to me?

upbeat sandal May 29, 2021, 2:41 AM

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sweet wind can someone explain this sorcery to me?

bitshift

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you shift all the bits to the left. Why would you want to do this? no clue.

sweet wind May 29, 2021, 2:44 AM

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interesting. Haven't touched to bit shifting in a while. So shifting 21 in binary by 1 makes it 42, am I right?

hazy laurel May 29, 2021, 2:49 AM

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bit shift to the left, yes

sweet wind May 29, 2021, 2:53 AM

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yeah, I just played with that in an interpreter and now I got it. Thanks

scarlet totem May 29, 2021, 4:15 AM

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x << y == x * 2 ** y, x >> y == x // 2 ** y

median blade May 29, 2021, 5:19 AM

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ok

jovial island May 29, 2021, 10:04 AM

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bye

odd sphinx May 29, 2021, 11:14 AM

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damn

dim root May 29, 2021, 11:20 AM

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@idle comet reloading is fucking amazing! Thankyou for doing it!

copied the folder locally and messing around with it

blissful coral May 29, 2021, 1:36 PM

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not python, but funny https://www.reddit.com/r/memes/comments/nnkyu1/i_am_on_the_other_street_are_you_on_this_street/

r/memes - "I am on the other street, are you on this street? Oh you...

256 votes and 4 comments so far on Reddit

odd sphinx May 29, 2021, 3:12 PM

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lol

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wtf

odd sphinx May 29, 2021, 3:41 PM

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@keen burrow typo! in #pixels-announcements You can now run an HEAD request you probably mean You can now run a HEAD request

keen burrow May 29, 2021, 3:41 PM

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aha, thanks

odd sphinx May 29, 2021, 3:41 PM

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the french got to u

keen burrow May 29, 2021, 3:41 PM

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It totally did

odd sphinx May 29, 2021, 3:41 PM

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lol

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oh another grammatical error

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rate-limited endpoint to know how what is your current rate-limit state without actually interacting
you probably mean
rate-limited endpoint to know what your current rate-limit state is without actually interacting

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@keen burrow ^ (sorry for double ping)

keen burrow May 29, 2021, 3:44 PM

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smh

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thanks!

dusky cliff May 29, 2021, 4:30 PM

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damn

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zeeshanok more like correctionop

languid osprey May 29, 2021, 4:32 PM

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Lol

odd sphinx May 29, 2021, 4:51 PM

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dusky cliff zeeshanok more like correctionop

correctionok*

tranquil ridge May 29, 2021, 4:55 PM

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odd sphinx correctionok*

correcshanok*

odd sphinx May 29, 2021, 4:57 PM

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yes

dusky cliff May 29, 2021, 5:07 PM

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odd sphinx correctionok*

no

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correction OP

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correctionop

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I didn't stutter.

odd sphinx May 29, 2021, 5:08 PM

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ok

full marlin May 29, 2021, 5:09 PM

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what is pixels

vague shadow May 29, 2021, 5:09 PM

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full marlin what is pixels

#pixels-announcements message

full marlin May 29, 2021, 5:10 PM

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oh

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cool

median blade May 29, 2021, 5:36 PM

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Hi daspecito

jovial island May 29, 2021, 5:37 PM

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long time no see

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heyy

idle comet May 29, 2021, 6:55 PM

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dim root <@!151347084602245120> `reloading` is fucking amazing! Thankyou for doing it! c...

you're welcome, i really thinks its a great tool, but still needs some work. mainly, file change date checking so it only parses the ast if the file actually changed

grave scaffold May 29, 2021, 7:10 PM

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So i am doing an internship and unable achieve targets what to do

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??

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Its been 3 weeks

fluid haven May 29, 2021, 8:26 PM

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@rustic lagoon Ah I found it, it's called slicing

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[start:stop:step]

rustic lagoon May 29, 2021, 8:26 PM

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ecplain

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explain*

fluid haven May 29, 2021, 8:26 PM

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[::-1] goes in reverse

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[2:8:2] for example starts at 2, stop at 8 and steps 2 at a time

rustic lagoon May 29, 2021, 8:27 PM

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but like

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how do you use it

fluid haven May 29, 2021, 8:27 PM

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!e
print("Hello that one dude"[2:8:2])

rustic lagoon May 29, 2021, 8:27 PM

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what is it used for

clever salmonBOT May 29, 2021, 8:27 PM

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@fluid haven :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.

lot

fluid haven May 29, 2021, 8:27 PM

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Making selections from strings

rustic lagoon May 29, 2021, 8:28 PM

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I see

fluid haven May 29, 2021, 8:28 PM

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Personally mostly reversing strings

rustic lagoon May 29, 2021, 8:28 PM

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!e py print("This gonna be reversed"[::-1])

clever salmonBOT May 29, 2021, 8:28 PM

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@rustic lagoon :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.

desrever eb annog sihT

rustic lagoon May 29, 2021, 8:28 PM

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YES

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thx man

jovial island May 29, 2021, 9:58 PM

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viral hare May 29, 2021, 10:03 PM

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keyboard warrior it seems

hot pulsar May 29, 2021, 10:18 PM

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@wooden panther just one book, its on the web nothing to purchase. scroll down a bit. some of it is super simple but given your q about return in a for loop id recommend reading through it all quickly

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sry was away didnt answer when u asked

proper python May 29, 2021, 11:09 PM

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this image has more layers than a coconut

jovial island May 30, 2021, 12:12 AM

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I believe Shrek liked coconuts.

shadow elk May 30, 2021, 12:54 AM

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@sterile pelican
If I host a microservice using a GPL library, do I have to make all code that sends requests to that microservice GPL-licensed?

mint solstice May 30, 2021, 12:54 AM

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well isn't that not including a copy of the code?

sterile pelican May 30, 2021, 12:54 AM

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shadow elk <@!306876636526280705> If I host a microservice using a GPL library, do I have ...

yes, unless that library is LGPLed

shadow elk May 30, 2021, 12:54 AM

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then that's the most ridiculous license ever

mint solstice May 30, 2021, 12:55 AM

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sterile pelican yes, unless that library is LGPLed

how come?

sterile pelican May 30, 2021, 12:57 AM

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well, that's kind of the whole point of GPL, to prevent close-sourcing any projects, if you only want to prevent close-sourcing of a work based on your library, i.e. a derivative, you can license under LGPL so that people who just use your lib are fine and can use some other license

junior moat May 30, 2021, 12:57 AM

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gpl was designed to be ridiculous, yeah

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basically it tries to turn copyright on its head forcefully, using its own laws against itself

sterile pelican May 30, 2021, 12:58 AM

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junior moat gpl was designed to be ridiculous, yeah

true, but for a good reason, it does the job it is supposed to be doing very well

junior moat May 30, 2021, 12:58 AM

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i'm not saying it's bad

sterile pelican May 30, 2021, 12:59 AM

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junior moat basically it tries to turn copyright on its head forcefully, using its own laws ...

that's probably why the call licenses that do this copyleft

shadow elk May 30, 2021, 12:59 AM

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shadow elk <@!306876636526280705> If I host a microservice using a GPL library, do I have ...

Okay, let's take this scenario:

Someone writes a microservice "A" without using any GPL code, so e.g. the microservice code is MIT-licensed.
I write a piece of code "B" that talks to that microservice. I license it under the MIT license.
The author of microservice "A" rewrites it from scratch using a GPL library, but preserves the same interface.

Does the piece of code "B" now have to be licensed under GPL?

sterile pelican May 30, 2021, 1:01 AM

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no as long as you use the non-updated version

shadow elk May 30, 2021, 1:01 AM

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Or:

A person writes two implementations of a library (with the same interface), one implementation is licensed under MIT, another one is licensed under GPL.
I write a piece of code that imports that library.

Do I have to license my code under GPL?

shadow elk May 30, 2021, 1:01 AM

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sterile pelican no as long as you use the non-updated version

I'm just talking to the API, I don't control what implementation is hosted there. I can't even know which version is hosted there.

junior moat May 30, 2021, 1:02 AM

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shadow elk Or: 1. A person writes two implementations of a library (with the same interface...

for this case no, even if your application is "compatible" with the GPL library, you made it to use the MIT library

sterile pelican May 30, 2021, 1:02 AM

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shadow elk I'm just talking to the API, I don't control what implementation is hosted there...

oh, I missunderstood then, well this is the part of GPL that's uncelar, but most people wouldn't consider just talking to the API as something you'd have to inherit the license from, but this excatly is a dispute that's not very clear by the GPL license text

junior moat May 30, 2021, 1:03 AM

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shadow elk Okay, let's take this scenario: 1. Someone writes a microservice "A" without usi...

for this, i'm honestly not sure. GPL makes it clear that static or dynamic linking against it does require your code to be GPL, but I don't know if API calls would fall under that

shadow elk May 30, 2021, 1:04 AM

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So what's the difference between:

import library_licensed_under_gpl

print( library_licensed_under_gpl.some_function(42) )
``` and ```py
def some_function(n: int):
    r = requests.post(f"https://api.that-uses-a-library-licensed-under.gpl/{n}")
    return r.json()["result"]
print( some_function(42) )
```?

sterile pelican May 30, 2021, 1:04 AM

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the API author could probably try and make a case against you, but I very much doubt he'd succeed with something like that, though it's possible, since GPL simply isn't clear on this

sterile pelican May 30, 2021, 1:05 AM

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shadow elk So what's the difference between: ```py import library_licensed_under_gpl print...

I would say yes, but again, GPL simply isn't clear enough on it

junior moat May 30, 2021, 1:05 AM

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I think part of the problem is that there also isn't much legal precedent on these matters

shadow elk May 30, 2021, 1:05 AM

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it seems that GPL brings up lots of paradoxes that weren't considered when it was created

sterile pelican May 30, 2021, 1:05 AM

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yeah, that it certainly does

junior moat May 30, 2021, 1:05 AM

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the GPL library copyright holder might take you to court on these and who knows what the outcome will be

sterile pelican May 30, 2021, 1:06 AM

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but I doubt any api author would realistically try to enforce usage of GPL to clients since his API is GPLed

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but yes, if the author would decide to take it to the court, the outcome is unclear

shadow elk May 30, 2021, 1:06 AM

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I think I'll stick with MIT for my projects 👀

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I don't think I'll ever understand GPL

junior moat May 30, 2021, 1:07 AM

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well

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the good news is that if you decide to use GPL

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you don't really have to enforce it

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if you're the copyright holder that is

sterile pelican May 30, 2021, 1:07 AM

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I do like using GPL for some of my things, but I'd never enforce those minor things on anybody

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and I doubt I'd have any success even if i tried doing so, though again, it's technically possible

shadow elk May 30, 2021, 1:28 AM

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https://github.com/decorator-factory/gpl-conundrum

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I think the idea that importing a library is making a derivative work of it doesn't really make sense.

woven hornet May 30, 2021, 2:48 AM

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why in sorting, we can't directly exchange two values, but we have to create a temp to swap them?

dusky cliff May 30, 2021, 2:52 AM

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you can swap directly in python with something like a, b = b, a

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and you can swap two numbers in any lang without a temp variable with a trick

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but in general its not possible to swap two vars without a third

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something like

a = b
b = a

won't swap a and b

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both a and b will end up with the value of b

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because when it gets to the second line, the value of a has changed to that of b, and the original a has been lost already

woven hornet May 30, 2021, 2:57 AM

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oh

woven hornet May 30, 2021, 2:58 AM

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dusky cliff and you can swap two numbers in any lang without a temp variable with a trick

what trick isit

dusky cliff May 30, 2021, 2:59 AM

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a = a + b
b = a - b
a = a - b

its a bit hard to explain in words, just work it out for two numbers and you'll see

woven hornet May 30, 2021, 3:00 AM

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oh wow yeah

dusky cliff May 30, 2021, 3:02 AM

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show 👀

undone root May 30, 2021, 3:06 AM

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xor is the poggest one

dusky cliff May 30, 2021, 3:06 AM

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ye it works
e🅱️ic

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i read an article on xor tricks on reddit some time back

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finding duplicates in lists and stuff

viral hare May 30, 2021, 3:08 AM

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xor only really works when ur thing fits in one register

dusky cliff May 30, 2021, 3:10 AM

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hmm

woven hornet May 30, 2021, 3:11 AM

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oh ok, i think i asked this before but i still dont get it
lets say the array is [5,2,4,3],
array clone = [5,2,4,3]

for the first iteration, i = 0, j= 0
since 5 < 2147483647,
small = 5, smallIndex = 0

for the next iteration, i = 1, j=1,
(a side qn, does small reupdate to 2147483647 or it remains as 5 when the i loops again)
since 2 < 5,
small = 2, smallIndex = 1,

then swap(newArr, 1, 1)?
wouldnt that be swapping nth

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dusky cliff May 30, 2021, 3:14 AM

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the j loop is nested inside the i loop
you're not considering the (i=0, j=1), (i=0, j=2)... etc iterations

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when the inner j loop ends, smallindex will be 1 (the index of 2, the smallest no. in the arr)

woven hornet May 30, 2021, 3:15 AM

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dusky cliff the `j` loop is nested inside the `i` loop you're not considering the (i=0, j=1)...

oh yea i was unsure abt this, so we have to loop within the j first

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lemme try again

woven hornet May 30, 2021, 3:24 AM

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dusky cliff when the inner j loop ends, `smallindex` will be 1 (the index of 2, the smallest...

okay im clear abt it alr thanks! 👍

wide totem May 30, 2021, 3:33 AM

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shadow elk I think the idea that importing a library is making a derivative work of it does...

Ig monkey patching it would be

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Like,

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As the only feature of your library, and then shipping that

woven hornet May 30, 2021, 4:47 AM

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public class sort {
    static void swap(int[] arr, int i1, int i2) {
        int temp = arr[i1];
        arr[i1] = arr[i2];
        arr[i2] = temp;
    }
    
    static int[] bubbleSort(int[] arr) {
        for (int i = 0; i < arr.length - 1; i++) {
            for (int j = i; j< arr.length-1; j++) {
                if (arr[j+1] < arr[j]) {
                swap(arr, j, j+1);
                }  
            }
        }
        return arr;
    }
    
    public static void main(String[]args) {
        int[] x = new int[]{10, 40, 30, 20};
        System.out.println(bubbleSort(x));
    }

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why is the output so weird?

woven hornet May 30, 2021, 5:44 AM

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I tried to create a function which bubble sorts

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But the output is some string of characters

odd sphinx May 30, 2021, 5:46 AM

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can u print out arrays in java?

dusky cliff May 30, 2021, 6:04 AM

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not directly no

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System.out.println(Arrays.toString(arr))

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and you'd need to have java.util.Arrays imported

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or java.util.*

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@woven hornet

odd sphinx May 30, 2021, 6:05 AM

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thats probably the issue

dusky cliff May 30, 2021, 6:06 AM

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ye

jovial island May 30, 2021, 10:26 AM

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woven hornet ```java public class sort { static void swap(int[] arr, int i1, int i2) { ...

i think may be swap is sus.

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oh wait no we can't print array like that, it may be printing its address

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yeah that was the issue

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public class sort {
    static void swap(int[] arr, int i1, int i2) {
        int temp = arr[i1];
        arr[i1] = arr[i2];
        arr[i2] = temp;
    }
    
    static int[] bubbleSort(int[] arr) {
        for (int i = 0; i < arr.length - 1; i++) {
            for (int j = i; j< arr.length-1; j++) {
                if (arr[j+1] < arr[j]) {
                swap(arr, j, j+1);
                }  
            }
        }
        return arr;
    }
    
    public static void main(String[]args) {
        int[] x = bubbleSort(new int[]{10, 40, 30, 20});
        for(int i=0; i<x.length;i++){
            System.out.println(x[i]);
        }
    }
}

This works fine

woven hornet May 30, 2021, 11:41 AM

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dusky cliff `System.out.println(Arrays.toString(arr))`

oh i see i tried this but it still doesnt work

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public class sort {
    static void swap(int[] arr, int i1, int i2) {
        int temp = arr[i1];
        arr[i1] = arr[i2];
        arr[i2] = temp;
    }
    
    static int[] bubbleSort(int[] arr) {
        for (int i = 0; i < arr.length - 1; i++) {
            for (int j = i; j< arr.length-1; j++) {
                if (arr[j+1] < arr[j]) {
                swap(arr, j, j+1);
                }  
            }
        }
        return arr;
    }
    
    public static void main(String[]args) {
        int[] x = new int[]{10, 40, 30, 20};
        int[] y = bubbleSort(x);
        String y = Arrays.toString(y);
        System.out.println(y);
    }
}

woven hornet May 30, 2021, 11:43 AM

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jovial island ```java public class sort { static void swap(int[] arr, int i1, int i2) { ...

oh so ur method is like printing a value in the array by using a loop? and that's acceptable

woven hornet May 30, 2021, 11:44 AM

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odd sphinx can u print out arrays in java?

is there any way to return an array back though? or its not possible in java?

jovial island May 30, 2021, 11:44 AM

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woven hornet is there any way to return an array back though? or its not possible in java?

return array from a function? you did that.

woven hornet May 30, 2021, 11:45 AM

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jovial island return array from a function? you did that.

yeah i meant print*

jovial island May 30, 2021, 11:47 AM

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dusky cliff `System.out.println(Arrays.toString(arr))`

yeah you can do it as hahastinkypoop has mentioned(sorry for the ping)

woven hornet May 30, 2021, 11:48 AM

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woven hornet ```java public class sort { static void swap(int[] arr, int i1, int i2) { ...

@jovial island oh do u mind seeing whats wrong with this

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i tried using his Arrays.toString

jovial island May 30, 2021, 11:48 AM

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alright? so any error came?

woven hornet May 30, 2021, 11:49 AM

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javac /tmp/Q9i8rsATpT/sort.java
/tmp/Q9i8rsATpT/sort.java:22: error: variable y is already defined in method main(String[])
String y = Arrays.toString(y);
               ^
/tmp/Q9i8rsATpT/sort.java:22: error: cannot find symbol
        String y = Arrays.toString(y);
                   ^
  symbol:   variable Arrays
  location: class sort
2 errors

jovial island May 30, 2021, 11:49 AM

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you can't have variables of same name.

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also you need to import the class

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as above mentioned.

woven hornet May 30, 2021, 11:50 AM

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jovial island you can't have variables of same name.

oh right that makes sense

woven hornet May 30, 2021, 11:50 AM

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jovial island also you need to import the class

wait what does that mean

jovial island May 30, 2021, 11:50 AM

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Arrays is a class which in order to use we need to import just like we import scanner class.

jovial island May 30, 2021, 11:50 AM

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dusky cliff and you'd need to have `java.util.Arrays` imported

this(again sorry for ping)

median blade May 30, 2021, 11:51 AM

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ping

hazy laurel May 30, 2021, 11:51 AM

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median blade ping

pong

woven hornet May 30, 2021, 11:51 AM

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jovial island this(again sorry for ping)

ohh

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that's what he means

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i see

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okay thanks

odd sphinx May 30, 2021, 11:53 AM

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yes

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or u can loop thru each elemnt

keen burrow May 30, 2021, 1:01 PM

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Nice timing @rigid echo

rigid echo May 30, 2021, 1:01 PM

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thuglife_Squirtle

keen burrow May 30, 2021, 1:02 PM

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Discord barrier skip 101

rigid echo May 30, 2021, 1:03 PM

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lol

odd sphinx May 30, 2021, 1:03 PM

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hi