ot2-the-original-pubsta

[jovial island]

xD

[fluid plank]

ah chuunibyu

:((

[jovial island]

attack on titan is a great anime

i stopped at season 3

im gonna re watch season 3

because i forgot the episode i was on

[lucid osprey]

what is this ot name btw

[tranquil ridge]

?

[odd sphinx]

forever hacer 🙏 💯

[keen burrow]

No idea haha #code-help-voice-text message

[dim root]

anyone free rn? need help on testing few things

[rigid echo]

for what?

[dim root]

piston-cli

[rigid echo]

Oh lol sure

[dim root]

def split_unescape(string: str) -> t.List[str]:
    parsed_string = shlex.shlex(string, posix=True)
    parsed_string.escapedquotes = "\"'"
    return list(parsed_string)

Here is the code.

https://github.com/Shivansh-007/piston-cli/issues/22 here is what i want to do

example

[dim root]

@lucid girder isn't it like 8 AM for you and you are still awake?

[lucid girder]

5am, and yes

am UTC - 8

[dim root]

bad bad boy

go sleep

[lucid girder]

no

Calculus

[dim root]

🤓

[lucid girder]

being a nerd pays

at least it should in the long term

[dim root]

yep

[odd sphinx]

hopefully

[rigid echo]

LOL i was gone playing now free 😄

[jovial island]

some in middle school

[undone root]

some are in elementary school

but they shouldn't be

[jovial island]

uh... how? don't you need to be 13+ to be in discord

i mean

[undone root]

you legally have to be but people can lie about their age

imagine discord not sending your messages

[jovial island]

yea...

[undone root]

are you having trouble sending also

[tranquil ridge]

yes

well not anymore

it was just for a minute

[tribal tinsel]

for some years in Poland primary school's been 8-year
so until around 15 you're in primary school

[full marlin]

you're in poland?

cool

[tribal tinsel]

Not really cool when you're a queer person

[real forum]

Sorry about that :(. I doubt that will change in secondary/high school tho lol

[tribal tinsel]

What has it to do with school? I was only responding to "You're in Poland? Cool"

And I'm 25 XD

[fading pumice]

Ok

[real forum]

ohh lol

[bright leaf]

@round moss As a mod, shouldn't it be your job to get rid of illegal job postings, not just stop the conversation?

I haven't been mod here for a while now but that certainly seems like what would have happened last I was mod

[round moss]

we don't actually have to enforce US law, and I am not enough of a legal expert to tell who was right.

[viral hare]

i guess u can report linkedin job posts

[bright leaf]

Free work for a for-profit company which is obviously not for excepted reasons is obviously not legal

I've already linked a page directly from department of labour

And not doing illegal stuff is within the terms of service which as a partner is your job to enforce

[round moss]

please contact @vapid maple , lets have someone who knows more about this stuff handle it.

[bright leaf]

This isn't nuanced law, free work is illegal basically everywhere. That's what a minimum wage is for

[round moss]

well, no unpaid work was done, all that happened is we talked about it for a while.

[bright leaf]

A job posting for illegal work is fine for you? As long as the law hasn't been broken yet, it's just a posting to break law?

So sending links to piracy websites is fine because nothing has been downloaded yet

[sinful sun]

you know you can just report him to linkedin and other authorities right?

what do you expect mods to do here

[bright leaf]

Their job?

[sinful sun]

lakma already said he doesnt have to enforce any law here

and i remember other mods and admins saying that

[bright leaf]

Except they do. They're a partner server, they are expected to enforce the terms of conditions

[sinful sun]

this could be solved so much faster if you went to modmail like lakma pointed out

[bright leaf]

I shouldn't have to, it's a very simple mod action for a pretty clear situation

[round moss]

go to modmail, it isn't.

[bright leaf]

Yes it is, but whatever I'll message modmail.

[wide totem]

as far as I've heard, since discord is based in the US, if this server has stuff that breaks those laws, then discord could take action.

unrelated to the above, this is a question about the legality

because law is complicated

[round moss]

as I said, I have more or less no idea how this works, which is why I wanted modmail to handle this.

[wide totem]

ah

I'd dm modmail to find out but I kinda just want to ping @grim seal ~~

(mind you that was an edit ping so it didn't actually notify him)

[tribal tinsel]

it's not in this case. the person was bragging about having for-profit company and having "volunteer positions"
I reported them to US Department of Labor since they said themselves "report me if you want" but idk if DoL will read something without zip codes in their form and by a person who says they're not US-based (me)

https://webapps.dol.gov/elaws/whd/flsa/docs/volunteers.asp

I'm not US-based, this was first result in google when I searched for "us volunteer job law"

[wide totem]

No i mean

If someone is breaking a countries laws on discord what happens?

[tribal tinsel]

I mean...

!rule 5

[clever salmon]

Rules

5. Do not provide or request help on projects that may break laws, breach terms of services, be considered malicious or inappropriate. Do not help with ongoing exams. Do not provide or request solutions for graded assignments, although general guidance is okay.

[round moss]

we don't ban people for being lgbt, despite it being a crime in some countries

clearly we don't enforce all laws

[wide totem]

right

[tribal tinsel]

discord is US-based, you're required by discord partnered server rules to ban those who break the (US) law

[bright leaf]

It's US law

[tribal tinsel]

that's false equivalency

[wide totem]

well yeah, its not illegal in the USA

https://support.discord.com/hc/en-us/articles/360024871991

[wheat aurora]

The correct place for this conversation to occur is within Modmail, which is what lak originally suggested.

[tribal tinsel]

modmail is single-person vs mod team. we have multiple people vs one mod

I think it should be #community-meta if anything as it relates to the community itself?

[wheat aurora]

Modmail isn't about "vs" it's a place for someone to bring a concern to the mod team as a whole so we can take appropriate action.

[sinful sun]

this has to do with mod actions, modmail is appropriate

[wide totem]

This is not about any action taken here at all, I personally am curious about the legality of who has to delete illegal things on any platform, be it youtube or reddit, discord, or whatever.

[sinful sun]

also i've had multiple mods contact me in a single thread in modmail

[wide totem]

It did start because of something, but I actually want to know what laws and stuff cause this

[sinful sun]

the whole mod team can comment on the issue

[tribal tinsel]

but as I said, it's one user with multiple mods. while discussion here is with multiple people and one mod

[wide totem]

*multiple people and multiple mods

*really just multiple people who don't have access to modmail

[tribal tinsel]

it was metaphorical, about sides of discussion, not some fight

[wheat aurora]

Because this is dealing with moderation action, the correct place is still Modmail.

[bright leaf]

Legally speaking, Discord isn't to blame for anything said in the platform in the US in the same way Twitter isn't, because of section 230. But discord to protect its business interests tries to enforce a few things through terms of conditions, and passes on that responsibility to partner server admins/mods. Obviously not a lawyer and not legal advice @wide totem

[wide totem]

ah

[bright leaf]

Also my modmail thread just got closed without anyone telling me what happened

[tribal tinsel]

basically: isn't to blame for anything said unless they see it

[wide totem]

so people can really do whatever they want on a platform, but iirc from that same section, if stuff was found on a reddit comment section that broke the laws reddit could get in trouble if they did not take action against it

using reddit for example because I was not talking about this discord specifically but I'm making it more clear

[bright leaf]

Nah, in general except in a few things like CP, social platforms are protected from what is said

[tribal tinsel]

the problem with modmail is your concern was about one of the mods, probably? I think it's the problem with modmail - one cannot report something about a mod without that mod knowing who reported it...?

[wide totem]

even if they don't take action against it once they find it?

[bright leaf]

My concern was illegal job posting. Although they didn't like my tone

[tribal tinsel]

once they know about it, they're responsible about keeping illegal stuff around, yes

[wide totem]

wdym

[bright leaf]

Yeah I believe so, unless they've been ordered to get rid of it. Platforms mostly moderate to protect business interests, not for legal reasons. You'll have to read the protections outlined in 230 more carefully for more detail, that's my limit of knowledge

[tribal tinsel]

if someone just posts, platform isn't to blame
but once you report it to the platform, report is reviewed but illegal stuff is kept, the platform can be seen as complicit or sth (not deleting seen as condoning the stuff)

[bright leaf]

Section 230 protections are not limitless, requiring providers to still remove material illegal on a federal level such as copyright infringement. In 2018, Section 230 was amended by the Stop Enabling Sex Traffickers Act (FOSTA-SESTA) to require the removal of material violating federal and state sex trafficking laws.

[tribal tinsel]

that's why there are either strict rules about moderation or very loose rules that they don't really moderate it at all (so they don't see it, so they cannot be to blame)

[tribal tinsel]

illegal on a federal level
federal means those department of something laws, that apply to the whole country? or is it different?
because https://webapps.dol.gov/elaws/whd/flsa/docs/volunteers.asp this is from Department of Labor and I wonder if it applies

[US stuff and language is weird, so just making sure what "federal" really is]

ah, yes, "federal refers to the national government", so it is federal law

[bright leaf]

@tribal tinsel it doesn't apply in this case

[tribal tinsel]

?

[bright leaf]

The protections do not apply for federal criminal law, electronic communications law, and intellectual property law. The subtlety here is "criminal law"

Unpaid labour isn't a criminal offence, it would be settled in civil court

So it works against criminal acts like assault or whatnot but not civil disobedience things like unpaid labour

[tribal tinsel]

hm, this quote doesn't state anything about those exceptions

[bright leaf]

Yeah Wikipedia isn't specific, I had to go to one of those law firm websites for more detail :p

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/47/230

Scroll down to (e)Effect on other laws

[tribal tinsel]

law is weird af

[bright leaf]

The criminal/civil divide and state|local/federal divide show up a lot in US law

Funnily enough since my country (Australia) is also a similar Federation, it shows up here too

Although with a very British flavour

[tribal tinsel]

right now my country is going backwards and almost trying to delegalise my existence, so I got really annoyed at lak's false equivalence with "action is illegal in the country discord is based" vs "a group of people is illegal in some countries , which law wouldn't be compatible with our own rules but I want to post a counterargument no matter what"... :c

[bright leaf]

Yikes. Poland or Hungary or something?

[tribal tinsel]

Poland

[bright leaf]

First try

Yeah nah, Poland's whack right now

Non secularism tends to be dismal for a government

[wide totem]

Smh if the United States could outlaw a group of people
looks at stupidity
guys, it's spreading

Because seriously I don't understand what we're doing smh

And by that I mean it'd just go downhill not that we could outlaw stupidity

But-- it would be cool if we could decrease stupidity with better education and colleges not being so expensive

[bright leaf]

I think what's going on in Poland is worse than what's going on in the US

As bad as the US is compared to other OECD countries in general politically

A lot of it is sort of "first world problems" compared to some other countries

[wide totem]

BRB ducking Poland

(duck duck go)

[tribal tinsel]

https://atlasnienawisci.pl/

basically we have this "law" organisation that is a child-org of some foreign org banned in some countries for being a sect (XD) and has ties to Russian funding, that keeps pushing against "LGBT ideology", saying it leads to families breaking and such

and with our right-wing conservative religious government and religious leaders trying to force religion as law (who think they don't need to listen to the Pope who is quite progressive for a pope)... well

[wide totem]

leads to families breaking
Just get rid of all of the homophobes, don't let them have kids, a multitude of generations later and you either don't have any one or everyone is fine with people

[tribal tinsel]

you know, queerphobes' logic is fallacious at many steps

so I don't even try to argue

I just want to exist

[sinful sun]

Eugenics is a real yikes argument

[full marlin]

eugenics is like perfect genetics right?

[bright leaf]

Like, kill/sterilize people whose genes we don't like

[tribal tinsel]

I had a guy shout next to me that "H*tler would've taken care of you all". policeman next to me didn't care at all

[full marlin]

so take Mendel and apply it to people

that's basically eugenics

[sinful sun]

Eugenics is selectively breeding people

[full marlin]

Mendel is the flowers guy right?

the one who mated the flowers to create different colored flowers or something

[bright leaf]

...in Poland

That's a whole lot of not knowing history

[tribal tinsel]

yes. and we have laws against "popularising totalitarian ideologies"

yet the policeman didn't care

[sinful sun]

Well cops are pigs so what do you expect

This is similar to "HR is not your friend"

[tribal tinsel]

"excuse me, this guy here is breaking the law"
policeman: "yeaaah? what?" with that belittling smile some people with power have

[tribal tinsel]

we were at Pride event literally surrounded and "protected" by cops

[wide totem]

👀

[tribal tinsel]

this was some officer or sth, because he didn't actively border us from people

[wide totem]

Read a story on reddit about that

A hotel night auditor was trying to trespass two people

[tribal tinsel]

this made me realise that we're safe only from more obvious threats (physical violence during the march), not when people are not watching

[wide totem]

And the police said, naaaw, paperwork

[tribal tinsel]

https://polskatimes.pl/marsz-rownosci-plock-2019-zdjecia-1008-na-koncu-doszlo-do-starcia-policji-z-kontrmanifestantami/ga/c1-14330387/zd/37833961 there was police from around the whole region because there was threat of violence

and I had one of those yellow jackets because I was helping with organisation - keeping the marching column from breaking etc. yet that policeman treated me like some little kid who knows nothing

https://polskatimes.pl/marsz-rownosci-plock-2019-zdjecia-1008-na-koncu-doszlo-do-starcia-policji-z-kontrmanifestantami/ga/c1-14330387/zd/37838177 how that "threat of violence" looked like

[sinful sun]

Thats a whole bunch of bald dudes

[full marlin]

ye

[tribal tinsel]

https://static.kutno.net.pl/plock/articles/image/f660eb5b-5c8d-4739-b4b9-39075fce6d8b the most ironic photo. guy has "stop totalitarisms" sticker (with rainbow grouped as "totalitarism"). yet he stands with many using/praising fascism/nazism
just Polish things...

https://portalplock.pl/fotorelacje/marsz-rownosci-i-kontrmanifestacja-w-obiektywie/Rq03mHIr2IbQsfAH4pEe/galeria?page=3 source

I'm now browsing the photos trying to find myself because I'm bored XD

https://static.kutno.net.pl/plock/articles/image/b48f4ca1-e4a4-489b-bd66-99753a6298a9 omg, I forgot Julia had her rainbow flower crown then ❤️ (Julia was Warsaw's Equality Parade organiser)

I was there with Warsaw's Parade team to help

[full marlin]

are you the one w the pink bandanna?

is that a bandanna?

idk the term

[tribal tinsel]

no, it seems to be Margot from Stop Bzdurom (Stop Nonsense) collective

I'm still looking for myself in those photos but it seems us yellow-jackets were not really photographed because we were boring XD

I found one photo where I think I knew where I could be, based on two yellow jackets visible. I was at next part of the march, not visible, if I correctly recognised one person

[tribal tinsel]

https://www.facebook.com/paradarownosci/photos/a.202087489806860/2523622160986703/ I'm in this photo ~somewhere~ (Warsaw Equality Parade 2019 planning meeting)

[full marlin]

cool

[radiant socket]

doxed

[pastel nest]

HOLY SHIT

MY NAME

MY ANEM

YES

YES THANK YOU EIVL

THANK YOU

[radiant socket]

lol

[pastel nest]

IT'S ALL OBJECTS! HAIL OBJECTS! WE CAME FROM OBJECTS AND TO OBJECTS WE SHALL RETURN!!!

OBJECTS! OBJECTS! OBJECTS! OBJECTS!

@sturdy relic sorry for the ping but i just gotta say dude, thx so much for adding my name to the otn list! this is such an incredible honor

so happy

this just made my entire fking month

im screenshotting this

[full marlin]

what's otn?

[pastel nest]

here's the story: when i joined the server i kept on doing these daily reminders and suggesting it-is-all-objects to be an ot name

and one day eivl added it

[full marlin]

ohhhh ot stands for off topic name

ok

that's cool haha

[pastel nest]

so happy today

#ot2-the-original-pubsta

[full marlin]

pretty funny

[pastel nest]

@buoyant sage WE DID IT MATE!! THE NAME IS HERE!

[pastel nest]

@buoyant sage also helped out

@lucid osprey ARE YOU SEEING THIS?! THE NAME!! IT'S HERE!!!!!

don't miss it guys it's only here for 24 hours

[viral hare]

lmao

this dude

[pastel nest]

Wdym "this dude"? My name is The Object

[viral hare]

its just ur overly excited

[pastel nest]

When your name gets accepted into the otn list then gets picked shortly after, there's no reason not to be excited

[jovial island]

wow

[full marlin]

why y’all bullying him

let him have his moment

[pastel nest]

I guess the last one to the right in the back

[pastel nest]

Lol idc abt a few snippy comments
cries silently

[full marlin]

@pastel nest it’s ok dude I think you’re pretty cool

[real forum]

It loses its fun after like the 6th ot name

[languid osprey]

Cool :D

[edgy nebula]

woah how many do you have?

[fluid plank]

https://www.pythonmorsels.com/topics/everything-is-an-object/

i guess this otn came from this ^

[steady plinth]

Sorry
Because of its privacy settings, this video cannot be played here.

I thought it came from discord.py where literally everything is an object

[fluid plank]

ha? discord py is python so of course everything is an object 🤔

[sturdy relic]

im glad you liked it. and yes, it is all an object 😄

[sturdy relic]

no it came from one of our users getting their mind blown that everything is an object, while litterly having the nickname everything is an object

[fluid plank]

now i see

[somber belfry]

that is wholesome af

[buoyant sage]

OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[balmy cape]

Been in here for quite a while but never heard of this, what's the story behind the lemon emojis?

It seems kinda random :D

[tribal tinsel]

Yep. It's easy once you see those few person markings and realise Nicky==Nikita ^^

[tribal tinsel]

Look at the user list at the right and check Owners section. Check name and avatar XD

[sturdy relic]

well, Lemon is one of the important driving forces behind this community. so we have made some emojis with lemons

also lemon with beard is a natural reference to the man himself

[lament kestrel]

Wait
Everything is an object?
It's supposed to be spaghetti...

[balmy cape]

you could modify type class to instead make spaghetti

[pastel nest]

:D thx, rly appreciated mate

[pastel nest]

The legend replied!! I literally thought that it'll take like years before I finally see the name since it's randomly taken, so I was so surprised seeing this 🤣 😄

[lament kestrel]

Gg mate

[pastel nest]

Thanks!

[pastel nest]

Override the object and type class then 👀

[pastel nest]

Very indeed :)))

[pastel nest]

Wut... I literally just guessed lmao

[tribal tinsel]

Lol XD

[median blade]

you are a bit too hyped huh

haha

[tribal tinsel]

Who? Where?

[median blade]

objects guy

[real forum]

Too many

[edgy nebula]

wow i've got zero

i need to hang around here so that i shall also be immortalized through ot names

[real forum]

Iirc I have at least 4

[lucid osprey]

what name?

[real forum]

The ot one

[lucid osprey]

omg

[jovial island]

are you a gurkan now?

[lucid osprey]

always has been right?

[full marlin]

<@&267629731250176001>

sus content detected

[somber belfry]

!pban 786666353494458419 sketchy links are not appreciated

[clever salmon]

:incoming_envelope: :ok_hand: applied ban to @trail vine permanently.

[full marlin]

thanks Vivek

[lucid osprey]

hi

||the first time I'm seeing vivek use mod only commands||

[jovial island]

BTW why have so many people Gurkan in their name?

[lucid osprey]

a cult.

[final sable]

They worship cucumbers

[jovial island]

That's understandable

[lucid osprey]

can totally relate 🙌 /s

[full marlin]

it's to worship that Vestegurkan dude

[languid osprey]

Lol

[final sable]

No no

[jovial island]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-creed-cult-leader-follower-gif-15827566

[full marlin]

yes I know gurkan is a cucumber

[final sable]

He's like the Gurkan leader

They even worked on their own programming language

Gurklang

[jovial island]

😮

[lucid osprey]

https://docs.gurkult.com/#

lol

[final sable]

It scares me, this syntax

[pastel nest]

And what are they?

[pastel nest]

Yep

chili is typing...

chili stops typing...

[lucid osprey]

they send messages like a whole novel

[pastel nest]

True lmao

[lucid osprey]

its very sus.

they stop typing for 3 mins

and then suddenly a whole paragraph appears out of nowhere

[pastel nest]

So true 🤣

[lucid osprey]

I'm waiting..

chilli bring it on

[pastel nest]

Like bruh we're chatting not listening to your master thesis on cat psychology

[lucid osprey]

the one person that really sends philosophical messages is @OpalMist#4910 . I think they put a lot of thought into their messages tho

so deeep

[pastel nest]

Ay yo @real forum you finished answering me yet on the 4 or names?

Oop- she went offline

[lucid osprey]

they might be typing it out on notepad to copy paste it here

wow

so mysterious

[pastel nest]

Patience is a virtue

[real forum]

I'm busy rn

I'll get back to you in a few min

[lucid osprey]

nah nah nah you cant say that to people expecting a 4 word message

[pastel nest]

Understandable

[pastel nest]

Lol

[odd sphinx]

first ban?

[languid osprey]

Lol

[somber belfry]

nope

[odd sphinx]

damn

[real forum]

ok here we go

[odd sphinx]

my boy's all grown up

[languid osprey]

Lmao

My laptops windows just broke

[odd sphinx]

use tape

[real forum]

what-are-gurkans, chilis-esoteric-print-statements, became-a-pepperess, good-memes-good-marriage, change-it-to-crappy

[odd sphinx]

clear tape

otherwise u wont be able to see anything

[real forum]

I think I have a few more but I can't remember them rn

[pastel nest]

wow how do you get all of them? you a mod or smth in the past?

[real forum]

Na

[pastel nest]

you just suggested?

[real forum]

Mmhm

[pastel nest]

wow i thought almost no one listens to those suggestion forms lol

[real forum]

Well I didn't use the forums for most of them

I only used what-are-gurkans for that

But also the esoteric print statement one was added because I was making cursed shit using dunders

[pastel nest]

nice

[pastel nest]

btw she's here now, she sent her otns

[drowsy comet]

python is hard

[pastel nest]

alright ima go eat lunch, we're watching Tenet today

[pastel nest]

it's the easiest compared to all other languages (except visual ones like scratch)

[drowsy comet]

i an idiot that's why lol

[real forum]

That movie is really good

[jovial island]

I like that one, make sure to suggest it 😄

[languid osprey]

cyaa

[real forum]

Those are all already in the pool bc I have suggested them

[jovial island]

Oh nice o

[tranquil ridge]

learning any kind of programming language at first without a cs background is hard

thats why scratch was made lol

after you have learnt one, rest is a smooth sail

[jovial island]

I really enjoy language for PLC (Programmable logic controller)

I wonder does anyone know what I mean?

An example

[languid osprey]

Huh, I've never used something like that

[jovial island]

It's made to control electrical consumers with logic

[languid osprey]

Oh cool

I didn't ever use that, mostly used scratch when I was younger

[jovial island]

Example depending on some sensors some stuff happens

[jovial island]

Scratch is fun

[languid osprey]

It was fun

[jovial island]

I learned and use this at work

[languid osprey]

Cool

[jovial island]

This just turns on one light after the other.

I practised a specific structure

It's an empty canvas so it can get messy

[odd sphinx]

first thing i saw was B008

[jovial island]

I see, very cultured 😄

[odd sphinx]

Yes

extremely

[tranquil ridge]

lool

[jovial island]

wait...

it's

all

an object?

[neat light]

why is this ot name not its-all-objects 🤔

[jovial island]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[dusky cliff]

because

[wide totem]

(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻

oh good you can use /slashes with replies again

[spark adder]

in this server is command !e how can I implement this into my bot or my server

[jovial island]

look up how to make an eval command for d.py

[spark adder]

I'll try, thanks

[fluid plank]

its all wookie

[neat light]

!otn add its all wookie

[clever salmon]

:ok_hand: Added its-all-wookie to the names list.

[neat light]

Don't mind me casually adding ot names referencing myself

I need to get my count up

Assert some dominance y'know

[full marlin]

these tutorials would be great

IF I KNEW C

[bright leaf]

There's multiple languages, functional block diagrams are very different from ladder logic which are different from structured text

The whole PLC sphere is a mess

[jovial island]

Yeah, I've learned multiple of them, they're different but can do the same thing

[jovial island]

I guess you can say that

granted I have not much experience but I do enjoy it

[bright leaf]

Not my thing tbh, work is too repetitive

[wide totem]

👀 "wookie-has-no-otn"

[jovial island]

That's fine. there's lots of other work

[lime drum]

@light void sure if you want a simple gui you can do it in python, but the fact that python is slow and bad at doing things like that will remain

[light void]

it doesn't have much use in GUI apps, but i just don't think speed is the reason.

[lime drum]

a gui isnt just "display this and that"

theres a lot more involved

just look at the fact that all major python gui libs are just language bindings for projects in other languages

[round moss]

Toga isn't

[lime drum]

fair

in general i think that python isnt really suited for these kinds of jobs

[round moss]

I feel like the issue here is due to how complex distributing python is

Unlike java, single file doesn't run everywhere (can't pack all of your deps into a single massive python zip that cpython can then run) and into an exe is hard, and cross compilation is more or less impossible

Dynamic object oriented languages are generally good at guis. One of the first GUI systems was written in smalltalk

[light void]

That's to make use of existing GUI libraries. It doesn't prove unsuitability.

[split seal]

side note: the wiki app I created in Python has a standalone .ZIP distribution, although I did build that more or less by hand.

the complexity involved in distributing Python apps mostly revolves around making sure you have all the dependencies included with it, and so if you include something like NumPy, there's a lot that has to be included by default.

[tame merlin]

Lemon has had many lessons in sleep.

[fading pumice]

e

[dim root]

@lucid girder did u get a long list of .topic topics yest?

[lucid girder]

we expanded the list by a lot, yes.

.topic

[rustic harbor]

**What would you do if you know you could succeed at anything you chose to do?**

Suggest more topics here!

[lucid girder]

.topic

[rustic harbor]

**What is your favourite place that you have visited?**

Suggest more topics here!

[lucid girder]

yeah these seem like the new ones

if I'm not mistaken

[unreal sigil]

I'd probably succeed in coming up with something to do

[dim root]

i meant i gave a long list of topics yesterday on the forms

[lucid girder]

I haven't looked at the form recently

[fluid plank]

Make myself and my family happy while playing and coding in a 128core 256 threads amd cpu threadripper or the server version which i forgot the name computer workstation

[gray spoke]

dude i can't help but think the lemon emojis are acorns

[unreal sigil]

EPYC

[median blade]

you cant uhh play on a epyc CPU

at least not without changing some stuff

[fluid plank]

shhh

[unreal sigil]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HuLsrr79-Pw enter linus

[wooden frigate]

HOLY COW how much does that cost

[fiery robin]

hello world

[unreal sigil]

I think it was abouttt

7k

You would most likely be better off with a threadripper

[fluid plank]

no

[median blade]

they have different purposes yeah?

[buoyant sage]

!d re

[clever salmon]

`re`

Source code: Lib/re.py

This module provides regular expression matching operations similar to those found in Perl.

Both patterns and strings to be searched can be Unicode strings (str) as well as 8-bit strings (bytes). However, Unicode strings and 8-bit strings cannot be mixed: that is, you cannot match a Unicode string with a byte pattern or vice-versa; similarly, when asking for a substitution, the replacement string must be of the same type as both the pattern and the search string.... read more

[somber belfry]

amazing lol

[steady plinth]

let me post that on reddit

and get 2 upvotes

[dusky cliff]

relatable

[steady plinth]

I got 10 upvotes

[dusky cliff]

exceeds expectations

[lament kestrel]

What's audio without vision?

Lol

[odd sphinx]

lol

[shut owl]

i need to make a face detection thing from video
how can i start

[tall temple]

deep learning algorithms, Artificial Intelligence

you could possibly get an AI from Microsoft Flow aka Power Automate

and train it to detect face

[pastel nest]

the name... is sublime

[tall temple]

Le-Mon

[wind wadi]

Check this out https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqbB07n_uQ4&t

[lucid osprey]

omg @tranquil ridge

your emoji!!

[tranquil ridge]

niiiceee

[lucid osprey]

I cant believe it tho . you got pinged in #announcements

I'ma use this emoji now like how winrawr uses "🥴"

[tranquil ridge]

lol

[lucid osprey]

haha

[fluid plank]

u made starstruct? nice

[tranquil ridge]

[lucid osprey]

this channel is really dead huh

.topic

[rustic harbor]

**If you had $100 bill in your Easter Basket, what would you do with it?**

Suggest more topics here!

[lucid osprey]

buy snacks and some hardware

[smoky flame]

give it back to whom i stole it from

[unreal sigil]

Stick it in the bank so I don't have to carry around a 100 dollar bill

[lucid osprey]

its just 1 note

and not a suitcase-full 👀

[unreal sigil]

Well yeah but I don't want to hand someone a 100 dollar bill that's just annoying

And I just use card 90% of the time anyway

[dusky cliff]

Barter system ftw

[jovial island]

@keen burrow is it ok to post something dying

[keen burrow]

Uhh, it depends

[jovial island]

horse

[keen burrow]

Probably not

[jovial island]

sdecapitation

[keen burrow]

Yeah, no

[jovial island]

ok

[lucid osprey]

why is it that I cant create a pull request?

this looked different before

why is the "create pull request" button not working

[keen burrow]

Because you are comparing main to main

So you can't have any delta

[somber belfry]

I see your bookmarks

ankith

[lucid osprey]

wait.. so what can I do to let others create pull request?

[lucid osprey]

yes haah

[keen burrow]

lmao

[lucid osprey]

but that was set before and not for trolling now, now I need to know how to create pull requests

[keen burrow]

Well, you need another branch with some commits

[lucid osprey]

aight

lemme try

[wide totem]

😔

…..

i-

i wasn't gonna see those,
until you let me down.

[lucid osprey]

it worked @keen burrow ! thanks

[keen burrow]

Sweet

[lucid osprey]

wait a second...

its not working

I see this thing

and when I press on 'create pull request'

the same thing is shown

any idea?

[dusky cliff]

new pull request

?

[lucid osprey]

yeah that green button

ohhh

I understand

Create a new branch for this commit and start a pull request.

yea yeah got it

right

so inorder to enable pull requests which do I choose? @dusky cliff

[dusky cliff]

'enable pull requests'? 🤔

[lucid osprey]

yes

I cant create a pull request

so akarys said I need a new branch with commits in it

[dusky cliff]

what is the pr for

[lucid osprey]

its an empty file

because others cant create pull requests

[dusky cliff]

what

[lucid osprey]

so I need to enable pull reuqests by creating a new branch

[dusky cliff]

others should be able to create prs

what's the repo

[lucid osprey]

naah

https://github.com/AnkithAbhayan/text-game/pulls

you cant make pull requests in this idk why

[lucid osprey]

this thing is shown

why is this sus

[dusky cliff]

check

[lucid osprey]

ok

HOW DID YOU DO IT?

[dusky cliff]

uh

like

normally

lol

[lucid osprey]

but why is it that other people cant ?

[dusky cliff]

if i can

everyone should be able to

lol

who is the other people

[lucid osprey]

but they cant...

@alpine hedge

hey come here

this dude

even I cant create pull requests

@dusky cliff what sorcery

[dusky cliff]

riccardo hasn't committed anything new

so

[lucid osprey]

eh

[dusky cliff]

he can't pr

[lucid osprey]

so how does one "commit anything new"

[lucid osprey]

oh

🥴

[dusky cliff]

make changes
git add .
git commit -m "commit message"
git push -u origin main

[lucid osprey]

cant we do it the normal way

by pressing buttons

create pull request buttons

[dusky cliff]

lol

[alpine hedge]

so i have to add files to my fork

and the send a pull request?

[dusky cliff]

and/or modify existing files

[lucid osprey]

but even I cant change my own code dude

[dusky cliff]

what

[lucid osprey]

wait I will send screenshot

[dusky cliff]

you're comparing main with main

[lucid osprey]

🥴

[dusky cliff]

ye

[lucid osprey]

aha

how to create a new branch

[dusky cliff]

in terminal or by pressing buttons?

[lucid osprey]

I thought you need not create a new branch?

[lucid osprey]

I know how to use git in the terminal for push and pull

but I wanna know by pressing buttons

[dusky cliff]

why would he fork his own repo

[lucid osprey]

but I created a pull request on my brother's repo but I didnt even press anything like "create new branch"

[dusky cliff]

you forked his repo right

[lucid osprey]

idk it automatically forked

[dusky cliff]

ye

[lucid osprey]

when I pressed "create pull request"

o I get it now

thats because I directly went to the file that I needed to changed, and then created a pull request

aha

ok so, how does one person (even me) create a pull request for a new file?

ohhhh

I see the add file buttong

got it

[alpine hedge]

how do i pair the fork with the main branch?

[lucid osprey]

wait wait

[dusky cliff]

if you want to make a pr for your own repo, you have to make a new branch and commit to the new branch
if someone else want to make a pr for your repo, they have to fork it and commit to their fork

[lucid osprey]

I see

ok I am now curious

how can I create a new branch?

ik its

git checkout branch_name

but by using buttons, how do I accomplish this?

[dusky cliff]

dunno

just use the terminal

[tranquil ridge]

ye

[lucid osprey]

hahahahaa

you guys are something... 🤣

ohhh I got it

ok this is someone else's branch

how can they make sure that their fork is upto date with mine?

[dusky cliff]

git pull

[lucid osprey]

ok which button is that

nvm they said that they got it

wait they didnt

why cant I understand this shit

[tranquil ridge]

because you are trying to use gui

[lucid osprey]

haha

ik about git pull but idk how to do it using buttons

[tranquil ridge]

you cant

[lucid osprey]

uhh whatt

[tranquil ridge]

unless you like delete your fork and fork again

[lucid osprey]

🥴

[dusky cliff]

use the terminal

fr

[severe trout]

^

[tranquil ridge]

yes

stop being normie

[severe trout]

terminal gud stuff

[tranquil ridge]

terminal gives you way more power

[severe trout]

normies use terminal

[tranquil ridge]

naw

[dusky cliff]

I mean i'm not asking you to always use the terminal

but if it makes more sense to use the terminal

use it

[tranquil ridge]

i use the terminal 90% of the time

[lucid osprey]

I used the terminal as a file explorer and I felt like a legend

[tranquil ridge]

like discord is pretty much the only thing left which i dont use in the treminal

[lucid osprey]

I even played songs in vlc using my terminal

[tranquil ridge]

discord tui when

[dusky cliff]

lol

👀

[lucid osprey]

hmm

[dusky cliff]

hmm

[tranquil ridge]

deleted messages are logged so you cant run away

[lucid osprey]

lol @severe trout

[dusky cliff]

cursed

[lucid osprey]

thats really scary

[tranquil ridge]

[severe trout]

shush. I was talking about how easy it is to use CLI 😇

tbf, everyone's first program is a cli lol

[tranquil ridge]

hnmm, talking of that i need some project ideas

was thinkin of an audio visualizer

🥴

[lucid osprey]

guys I made a cli and I cant help but show off

[tranquil ridge]

wot

[lucid osprey]

wot?

[dusky cliff]

wot.

[severe trout]

i love that background

[dusky cliff]

same

[tranquil ridge]

-arg is cursed

[lucid osprey]

idk you enter enter stuff and text clicks out

[tranquil ridge]

keep it -a or --arg

[lucid osprey]

wait wait where?

[tranquil ridge]

?

[lucid osprey]

I mean, what

[tranquil ridge]

your whole argument set starts with -

[dusky cliff]

like --help or -h

[tranquil ridge]

:/

[lucid osprey]

aha the prefix you mean?

[tranquil ridge]

what else would i mean

[lucid osprey]

hmmmm

[dusky cliff]

--a :^)

[tranquil ridge]

[severe trout]

----arg when?

[lucid osprey]

this is the main use btw

to get exam portions instead of going through my mother's phone's whatsapp messages to find that thing

[tranquil ridge]

you know that can be done by the json module itself

[lucid osprey]

😳

what can be done?

[tranquil ridge]

setting indent

[lucid osprey]

yeah thats how its working

[tranquil ridge]

..

[severe trout]

import ujson

[lucid osprey]

lemme show you code

[tranquil ridge]

whats the point

[lucid osprey]

print(json.dump(json_data,indent=4))

[tranquil ridge]

[lucid osprey]

and that indent=4 is changed btw

[lucid osprey]

tell me your way!

of setting indent " by the json module itself"

pls

@tranquil ridge

:bruh:

I like how, when I really ask a stupid question no one responds.

[dusky cliff]

>>> import json
>>> s = '{"a":2, "b":1}'
>>> d = json.loads(s)
>>> print(json.dumps(d, indent=4))
{
    "a": 2,
    "b": 1
}

[lucid osprey]

wait, how is this different from
print(json.dump(json_data,indent=4))?

isnt it changing the indent using the json module itself?

any idea?

[dusky cliff]

its the same

oh lol

didn't follow your conversation

idk what vinam meant

[lucid osprey]

ah

#ot2-the-original-pubsta message I really need this emoji, I've come across a lot of situations where I could send it 🤣

actually I have it as a whatsapp sticker

but not on discord

[lucid osprey]

wow thanks

I can now send the pic instead

I'm not sarcastic btw

[dusky cliff]

hi not sarcastic btw im dad

[proper python]

i dont think so

[proper python]

wow, ubuntu has quite an array of useful apps

wait wtf openra is just an actual game engine

also a game

weird to name the two the same

[jovial island]

pooper

[tribal tinsel]

?

[wide totem]

hello nicky

[broken summit]

i mean

unreal engine is named after unreal, the videogame series

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[young bobcat]

this channel name though

[broken summit]

innit

[worn sluice]

Under dash?

Kek

[limber pollen]

OpenRedAlert 🥁

[viral hare]

whats the diff anyways

between the two

[tall temple]

i break technology wherever I go

[steep quail]

relatable.

[tall temple]

what song is this?
it's seeked about halfway but the play button is ghosted out and theres no song description...

[tall temple]

aight I just had to reinstall some sound drivers :/

#ot2-the-original-pubsta

__init

!e ```py
class NoWorky:
def __init(self, value): self.value=value
try: NoWorky()
except: print("why no worky?")

[clever salmon]

You are not allowed to use that command here. Please use the #bot-commands channel instead.

[tall temple]

bruh

this channel name a chuck off at a rookie mistake?

i more often do

class NoWorky:
  def __init___(self, value): self.value=value
try: NoWorky()
except: print("why no worky?")

[half flower]

🙂

[wide totem]

ffs?

si, ffs

[tame merlin]

__init

[viral hare]

well u def can make a lot of web apps using that

[grizzled pier]

__init__

[buoyant sage]

after a function finishes executing, does it delete all the variables used within it?

please ping me if someone is going to answer

[tall widget]

I don't believe it's guaranteed to be called then. @buoyant sage

[jovial island]

does anyone know how to make a giveaway reroll command

[zinc hatch]

That depends on how you intend that question and whether or not we're talking about Python

There's basically a split in python between the names and the values that you've assigned the names to

Typically, names assigned within a function are part of that function's local scope, which means they'll be gone once the function ends.

At the same time, if other things outside of the function (other names/other objects) still refer to the values, those values will live on

This is a very good talk that could help you understand names and values: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_AEJHKGk9ns

[tame cave]

Does anyone know about the set game

I am trying yo make it in python

this game

That is a bad tutorial this is quicker too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kc4WrL7cxeg

I am trying to make this in python

[round moss]

quite an interesting game

[tame cave]

@round moss

are you familliar with it

Can you help me i am a bit stuck

#help-carrot

[odd sphinx]

is this nedbat?

[round moss]

yes

[odd sphinx]

ok

[nova ember]

It’s a truly great talk

[median blade]

O

Nice

[buoyant sage]

thank you

[buoyant sage]

can i know where to find his videos on the other topics he mentioned at the end?

at around 22:00 minutes

[cobalt sage]

Is there a hastebin like service which allows login?

I put some sensitive info by mistake in my file and saved it, then I couldn't edit it

I assume a service which allows login would allow me to edit the file later

[jovial island]

pastebin does but, it's questionable.

[cobalt sage]

OK

[nova ember]

On https://paste.pydis.com, we save code for 30 days, but if you accidentally save something sensitive, you can always DM @vapid maple and we’ll get rid of it (iirc)

I assume that’s not what you’re using right now, but just so you know

[cobalt sage]

Thanks, will try that next time.

And will be more careful about what I'm posting

[nova ember]

Always a good idea. As a rule of thumb, assume that things on the internet are saved forever

[wide totem]

🥴

[wide totem]

Said 3 months...

After last access

Which imo is really bad terms.

[nova ember]

Ah, I see. We’ve been altering for how long it’s stored quite a few times

The main reason we store it for more than a week or so is context. If you look at a conversation, you want to understand what was sent and be able to look back at old things

[wide totem]

https://www.notion.so/Privacy-Policy-4ceb50b84d164541bd5b0b7046aa7e6a

[nova ember]

Let’s say that you had a help channel where you sent some code and got help with it, but the code was in a pastebin. If you look back at it a month later, possibly because you ran into the same issue, you want it to be there

[wide totem]

We retain paste data for a period for a maximum of 3 months after it was last viewed by a user.

[nova ember]

Yep

[wide totem]

👀 there's an update coming to discord from what I've heard that embeds .txt files with highlighting in the client itself.

[nova ember]

Either way, if you don’t agree with the policy, there’s no need to use that specific pastebin. There are multiple options out there for you to use

[nova ember]

That could be nice. The reason we don’t allow text files right now, is that they don’t embed. A moderator would have to manually download and inspect all files to make sure they’re safe. When they’re embedded, though, it’s all much simpler

[wide totem]

I mean

You could set up all text files to be pasted to the pastebin

Wait

[nova ember]

That’s the user’s data. Not ours. We don’t want to paste it to services without them being aware

[wide totem]

On the spam message, add a reaction that if the person reacts it'll be added to the paste bin

And then the link will be sent

[median blade]

Arurkan

[zinc egret]

[tribal tinsel]

omg, Set <333 I haven't played in a long time but I had friends who made 4-trait deck

[tame cave]

4 trait?

fill you mean?

[tribal tinsel]

ah. 5-trait, right

4-trait is the normal version

number, colour, shape, fill type are normal traits
the handmade deck also had background. 243 cards (3^5)

[jovial island]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTtDgFT1qCc
enjoy bois

[tribal tinsel]

I remember I broke my mirror rubik's cube when playing Set during science camp, lol. we were all launching forward to get sets and I knocked my cube down from the table

[median blade]

thats really fun to solve

and easier than a normal one

for me atleast

[tranquil ridge]

hmm

i find the uneven blocks way cooler yeah

it looks like some sci fi stuff when scrambled when its really simple lul

its just shapes instead of colors

[tribal tinsel]

it's a bit harder to hold, but it's really fun to make "flowers" or other patterns on it

[wind wadi]

Does anyone know what this is

[sinful sun]

a fruit bowl?

[wind wadi]

Does it look like someone drew it?

[odd sphinx]

yes

[wind wadi]

Good

[odd sphinx]

ok

[wind wadi]

I'm making a program to do this

put put in an image

[odd sphinx]

oh damnnn

[sinful sun]

did you generate this?

[wind wadi]

and it tries its best to make it look like drawn

yes

[sinful sun]

neat

[odd sphinx]

make a picture faker than real life

pretty sick

[sinful sun]

so you feed it a picture of a fruit bowl and it gave you that?

[wind wadi]

Yes

[sinful sun]

v nice

can you do a portrait rn or do you need more training data

[wind wadi]

Idk maybe I need more data

I'll try

[fast wyvern]

@wind wadi how did the portrait turn out?

[wind wadi]

yeah it does not look good at all

It's bad with portraits

makes everything look distorted

cursed

[fast wyvern]

yikes

def needs more training 😂

[wide totem]

@nova ember well that spam filter is about to get a lot harder to use

[nova ember]

What are you referring to?

[wide totem]

repurged because of spam filter, as to not be muted for skirting it

can change file name

not sure if that's public or just a/b
edit: i mean off of canary ffs

[nova ember]

That’s been an option for quite some time iirc

[wide totem]

i only see it on canary

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[nova ember]

Oh okay

I use canary, so that could explain things

[wide totem]

you have the same option?

[wide totem]

ye same

[jovial island]

Canary is great

[sterile hazel]

btw, when you say 'underdash' do you mean these?__

because it is called an underscore

[tall temple]

should rename the channel to year 2022 is not a valid datetime

[wheat aurora]

This is still one of my faves of the "is not a valid datetime" #community-meta message

[full marlin]

don't use this channel as a meme dump please

[fluid plank]

yes boi

u finally joined

now julia has more people added to her harem

i plan to create a project related to bioinformatics

after this semester ends

ngl but why is lemon sticka glassy eyed like a person from a cult haha

someone is good in physics, u might wanna ask them

wait whats your major again?

frick

help meeeee hahaha jk. i am going to learn on my own :((

[jovial island]

eh i'm sure you'll manage

[median blade]

What about physics? 👀

[fading pumice]

Funny but dont post em here

[fluid plank]

physics? dude any science topics, julia can handle :3

[dim root]

@lucid girder wanna stream factorio on twitch?

[lucid girder]

not atm, watching vids in background

[dim root]

👌

[pliant trench]

@lucid girder no stream today?

[lucid girder]

there may be one, not sure

[alpine lark]

hello

[somber belfry]

Hi

[alpine lark]

damn your mod now

nice

[fading pumice]

ok

@somber belfry Indian?

[somber belfry]

Yep

[full marlin]

Ay me too

[fading pumice]

Ay

[wide totem]

Hello

Not i

[storm birch]

a man of culture

[real forum]

Ahh I make mistakes is back

[full marlin]

Gonna watch a show for 10 minutes then pass out from sheer boredom

[storm birch]

this is the way

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Um ok?

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I mean

@wheat rock

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Have you eyed today?

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Non

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Hello

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Null

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Oh ffs the onions are back

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Onions

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Uh

Chili

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onions

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The Soviet onion or the united steak

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Yes

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PICKLES

Not onions

Sorry

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I mean

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Ffs

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The Soviet onion or the united steak

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It's peppers but

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They're fucking peppers

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Yeha

Yeah

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Not fucking-peppers but peppers with an explicitive for emphasis before the word

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Sorry what

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Dont get any wrong idea ffs

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The Soviet onion or the united steak

[real forum]

Ayo I wouldn't pass

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Time for me to head out

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Lol

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Lol the edit

Same meaning but less

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Yeah

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Ffs I feel like peppers would hurt

Burny

That's why one uses gloves when handling

I don't think you could prep them for use without gloves

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You use gloves when handling peppers?

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My mom eats peppers raw

Idk how she does it

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I mean the really hot ones

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Bell peppers

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Bell peppers are kinda nasty IMO

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Jalepeno

Green chilli

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Jalapeños aren't always spicy

[full marlin]

I like bell peppers

They’re sweet

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Idfk why but I love these even when they burn my mouth to the fucking ground

Then I have another one

[real forum]

In fact I'm in Mexico and half the time they aren't spicy

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And some red peppers. I love em too

[full marlin]

ghost chili pepper tho

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Hmmm

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Once was the spiciest pepper

I forgot what the new one is called

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I love indian cuisine

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California reaper??

idk

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Like the nagumo reaper or something

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Indian food is great

I remember when I was little people were like you smell like curry

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What is u r PFP?