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wide totem
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Which is basically all of my servers

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For the sole reason that I can right click mark all as read

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And mark em all read at once πŸ‘€

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Because to this day, there's no way to shift esc the entire server list at once

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So instead, ctrl alt down-arrow, shift esc, repeat

copper tartan
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I'm really only active in this one.

wide totem
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And the pydis test server for the bot which I assume exists πŸ‘οΈ

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Wait

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No

copper tartan
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I'm not particularly active there.

wide totem
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O, there really is one?

copper tartan
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sure

wide totem
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I actually didn't think there would be

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But in retrospect I have full evidence that the bots are in two servers

copper tartan
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why not?

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they're in a handful of emoji servers, too.

wide totem
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Just for them? O.o

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O right

copper tartan
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yep

wide totem
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That's where 6 of my servers come from

copper tartan
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so we don't have to fill this server with interface emojis for the bot

wide totem
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A single bot which I'm staff for has 6 emoji servers lol

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No i don't code for it just a support server mod

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its written in js iirc

tribal tinsel
wide totem
copper tartan
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a lot.

copper tartan
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we made several iconsets for stuff like.. log events

wide totem
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Okay, why do they need so many emojis lemon_thinking

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O

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What is an iconset
Edit nvm

copper tartan
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stuff like userleave

wide totem
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O dang

copper tartan
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just imagine like.. 60 of those

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that's one of them

wide totem
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Lmao

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I feel sorry for your emoji list

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But at least you buy nitro so you can use them

tribal tinsel
copper tartan
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stuff like this

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not much of a point in having them here.

wide totem
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πŸ‘€

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Are these emojis on github or anywhere Public?

copper tartan
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mostly not

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but not these ones

wide totem
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Ratz

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Cya later lemon, good talk

copper tartan
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later

wide totem
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Is now three

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I personally believe you can never take away a help channel from this system once made

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There's a lot of resources within them

echo fern
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Ctrl+A, Ctrl+X, Ctrl+V in a different channel

viral hare
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never use mobile

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could never type fast

echo fern
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slightly worse, though why are you trying to type massive messages on mobile at all

wide totem
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πŸ‘€

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buy a wireless keyboard if you have android LOL

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I legitmately do that

median blade
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:(

dim root
tawdry heart
dim root
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.bm 816102639028011018

storm birch
median blade
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.bm 816139811114582037

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o

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i see now

viral hare
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wonder if its worth buying a rpi

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apparently they r rather cheap

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like 35 bucks on their website

wide totem
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πŸ‘€

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Depends

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What is your use case?

viral hare
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just wanna play around with it

wide totem
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O

viral hare
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maybe hook up some motors too

wide totem
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Ah then yeah

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Go for a pi lmfao

viral hare
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i have arduino

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but its kinda sht

wide totem
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See-

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I have a pi

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But I bought a pc from ebay

viral hare
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wonder if it comes with some wireless device

wide totem
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It is

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Has wifi

viral hare
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yeah thats a big upgrade from arduino

dusky cliff
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esp32

wide totem
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Also can run windows IoT

viral hare
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apparently u can get stuff with 8gb of ram

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kinda crazy

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but not sure how many cores it has tho

odd sphinx
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.help bm

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odd sphinx
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o i see

wide totem
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Asking the hard questions I see

viral hare
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gotta see if its worth ya know

wide totem
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If you were going for raw processing I would recommend HP elite ngl

viral hare
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i do wanna run things in parallel

wide totem
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But if you're trying to fuck around with motors, pi

viral hare
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wonder how to deal with multiple motors

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like if i wanna change the speed on one

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maybe one core is enough

viral hare
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what model should i get tho @wide totem

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pico?

wide totem
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wat pico

viral hare
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4 buck microcontroller lmao

wide totem
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no fc

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I have an HP elite not a raspberry pi

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because yes πŸ˜‚

viral hare
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hmmmmm

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whats fc

wide totem
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nfc*

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no fucking clue

pliant trench
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@somber belfry ay, finally became a mod

jovial island
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Microcontrollers are made to do simple tasks well and efficiently. If you want wirelessness, check out an esp32. If you want a desktop, you can go with a rpi

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There's bigger and more expensive SBC's up from a rpi if you want something more powerful

dreamy night
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anyone that has low knowledge of python that can help me with my project on github and contribute with me

pliant trench
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@dreamy night i mean, my python knowledge is worse than urs :|

dreamy night
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ah dont say that

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i dont know oop and have difficulties doing logics and constructing the program

glossy summit
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I too, don't yet understand oop. Although, I don't even fully understand things like decorators, either. I'm a bit of a noob.

dreamy night
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decorators arent that hard to understand i just dont find the use of them

glossy summit
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I used them in the creation of my bot even though I don't fully understand what they do, lol

dreamy night
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they just extend the function

jovial island
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@dreamy night You might want to check out discord.py there's an extensive usage of decorators there

dreamy night
glossy summit
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Right. I probably could get the hang of it if I continued my self taught class thing

dreamy night
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@jovial island yea i used them alot in discord.py but in general

glossy summit
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If I ever get around to making a bigger project... I might be less of a noob

dreamy night
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im goal is to start a big project but

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i dont know how to construct them

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i can figure it out how to implement stuff

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i have trouble reading docs as well and using info from the docs

jovial island
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I used them recently in a small project, a few functions needed to write a result to a file and a few needed to read them. They're mostly useful if you have a bunch of functions which have some common code

glossy summit
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Makes sense

dreamy night
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okay so fore example

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i imporrt client from discord .py

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and then use functions that the client class includes?

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Or do i have to reference it with client = Client()

fluid plank
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Fun Fact: Do you know, if you are lucky enough, you can use off topic channels as help channels?

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oh wait u dont need luck, just ask a question

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πŸ₯³

dreamy night
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mhm

fluid plank
dreamy night
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that question was based on my story

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that i have problems reading the docs

fluid plank
dreamy night
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depends

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i cant read any lol

jovial island
edgy nebula
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the dpy docs are rather well written though

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i don't see why you'd call it a mess

tribal tinsel
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Wait. Wtf is that search

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Rei, don't do anything stupid

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@jovial island is everything alright?

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I got scared, your account shows as offline when I click on it

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Do you want to talk?

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So what's up? Is everything alright?

unreal sigil
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Clearly not

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Seek professional help, no one here is qualified to help you

tribal tinsel
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I know how it is. That's why I asked whether you want to talk

unreal sigil
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There are plenty of online services for this sort of thing

tribal tinsel
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Where are you located? What country? There are help lines

unreal sigil
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I would recommend going to one of those

somber belfry
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did you try contacting a teacher or school counselor?

unreal sigil
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That's also a really good option

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Anxious about what? Nothing but good can come out of it.

tribal tinsel
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I know it's hard to reach for help at your worst moments. I didn't at my time. It's been years but I'm still kicking and got help.

unreal sigil
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People can help you, but only if you let them know you need help

tribal tinsel
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["I'm still kicking" = I'm still alive]

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Oh. I got this. After years of bullying I got years of thinking even random people in the street judge ne

unreal sigil
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I'm not going to pretend like I understand what you're going through, I can only direct you to people who will be far more suitable to talk to.
Please trust your school counsellor, they can help.

tribal tinsel
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You don't need to be. Right now it's not about me. I'm just saying I kinda went through similar stuff about that thinking everyone's judging you etc

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Remember you're not alone

round moss
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can you text the number?

lucid osprey
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just go for it

round moss
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start with just hello

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just starting the conversation will help

lucid osprey
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ok

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yes pls reconsider about it. pls dont try to do it

lucid osprey
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you've been typing for quite some time chilli

real forum
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Yeah

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Alright, this is coming from someone who has battled that issue more than I would like to admin.

From what I've seen, this is because of bully's, right? Bullying is not ok ever, and it shouldn't happen, but it does, and I'm sorry you have to deal with it.

I too have been bullied for certain things about myself, and it has driven me to almost attempting myself.

When you feel that way, it's important to realize that you aren't the only one feeling that way, and eventually it will get better.

You may feel like you shouldn't, and like it won't help you, but getting help is the most important thing you can do.

if professional help doesn't work(Ngl it didn't work for me), find a group of friends, a community, anything. It can even be online. For example, pydis was the community that saved me.

I've only interacted with you a few times, but they have been great, and you seem like an amazing person. Please please please take everything I said here to consideration, and finally, remember. You have friends here, we are here for you, and we love you.

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@jovial island for you

lucid osprey
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finally! lemme read your novel real quick

real forum
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Also I wrote it on mobile so the formatting is probably super bad, I'm sorry.

lucid osprey
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nice

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I also have another mystery to solve

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anyone remembers c-w-x-c<awoo>?
dont you find it sus that they had some health issues and said they were in the hospital. they didnt send any message after that (or I am not seeing it in search)

somber belfry
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they are probably just inactive

lucid osprey
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hmmm

lucid osprey
lucid osprey
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did they get banned or smth? when I search their name I find anything

wide totem
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link to a message they sent?

lucid osprey
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hmm

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lemme check

dusky cliff
lucid osprey
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oh yeahh

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I didnt know awoo was that

real forum
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rip

wide totem
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I just crashed firefox πŸ˜”

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I pressed share all tabs

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and I had 90 tabs open on my phone

urban sun
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They accuse me of cheating!

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And I need to do a captcha paragraph at at least 81 wpm...

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dafuq?

round moss
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ye, they do that

urban sun
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I could hardly read it

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then I failed it because 78 wpm of scrambled text isn't quite good enough

dusky cliff
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lol

urban sun
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although I passed with 106 on the 2nd attempt

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Nonetheless

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how are they gonna make you descramble AND type

dusky cliff
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which site is this on

urban sun
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typeracer

lucid osprey
# urban sun They accuse me of cheating!

wait.... if they want to prevent cheaters, they ask us to do another typing test.

if someone cheated on a racer, whats preventing them from cheating again on this "short typing test" to make it foolproof?

round moss
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it is an image

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so you can't read is anywhere near as easily

lucid osprey
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hmm

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like a captcha

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?

round moss
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yup

urban sun
lucid osprey
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you sent something like "hello" right?

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did you send a message?

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Dont go offline pls, it scares me

median blade
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oh god

lucid osprey
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omg o7 πŸ‘‹

median blade
lucid osprey
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wait for it..

median blade
mellow plover
blissful coral
lucid osprey
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nvm

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I thought something else would happen

full marlin
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yeah i thought he was gonna get muted or something

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the dictatorship spared you today

blissful coral
blissful coral
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Nah, its not about this; its something I have noticed in general

full marlin
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kek

lucid osprey
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anyway. .topic

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.topic

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full marlin
lucid osprey
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I wasnt referring to you btw, just the ot etiquette on their website

full marlin
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yeah i got it

wide totem
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There's a good reason

dense quiver
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.topic

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dense quiver
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chocolate

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ig

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idk

sinful sun
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candy is overrated

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savoury food is king

median blade
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yes i guess

vague monolith
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Hi

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Can someone tell me where I could find MX switches?

balmy cape
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membrane masterrace

vague monolith
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?

wide totem
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@upbeat sandal do you mind if I dm you, urgently

wide totem
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πŸ‘€ the channel name tho lmfao

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||btw did I ever mention I had cancer smh||

full marlin
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ok?

jovial island
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Glad you're fine now

fluid plank
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so should i ping mods here??

sinful sun
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Why

fluid plank
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mods!!!

sinful sun
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Fucj i got wooshed

storm birch
median blade
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.tt

proper python
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whats the smallest amount of sleep you've gotten besides 0?

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for me, like 3 hours

tranquil ridge
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eh, it was just once when it was 0, else 6

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I had to go to the doctor for medication when i pulled an all nighter that day

wide totem
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hello fisher

full marlin
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I’m here dude

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But I’m going to sleep soon

halcyon rapids
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trans, and i cannot stress this enough, rights.

median blade
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ok

broken summit
halcyon rapids
keen burrow
wide totem
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Okay why is @keen burrow blue now

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It's kinda cute on you~~

keen burrow
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Am I blue?

wheat rock
wide totem
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Oh lawd it's image mind tricks

keen burrow
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I don't get it, what is blue haha

wide totem
fluid plank
wide totem
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And I think it's the blue emoji bleeding in with my shit eyes

keen burrow
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Ya'll have strange screens haha

wide totem
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No my eyes are skit

keen burrow
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Or eyes

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Yeah

wide totem
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Shiy

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I'm 17 and sjit eyes

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Shot

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Shit

fluid plank
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Shoot

wide totem
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FUCKIJG FINALLY

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....

fluid plank
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Shutter

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shuttest

wide totem
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Shakrays

fluid plank
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Shakarys hmmm

wide totem
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No i can't even spell his name write

keen burrow
fluid plank
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@keen burrow btw is there an upcoming event in this server?

wide totem
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@fluid plank oh congrats on becoming a lead!

keen burrow
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Hmm I don't it is much of a secret, PyWeek is coming up soon

fluid plank
wide totem
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Greewn name

fluid plank
keen burrow
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What on earth discord

wide totem
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No its not an edited image

keen burrow
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Go home discord, you're drunk

fluid plank
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@primal owl

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oh fuck it is an actual user

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i tried calling Clyde bot

keen burrow
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Hahaha

wide totem
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My favorite screenshot from this bug

keen burrow
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You can't

wide totem
wide totem
keen burrow
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"are you banned maybe"

wide totem
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I re-edited that message back to what it was

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So Joe looked like he was replying to that

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But he was replying to adafruit discord link πŸ˜”

keen burrow
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Haha, okay

wide totem
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But still

fluid plank
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:((

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now go to your bedroom

wide totem
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Thanks Joe for the comedy

wide totem
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Go to your bedroom

median blade
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F

wide totem
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Akraies go to your meadboo+!

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Typing 100%

wide totem
keen burrow
wide totem
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I can't view any details whatsoever

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This build is that messuped

keen burrow
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Nice

wide totem
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So basically to check roles I have to click replies

somber belfry
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That sucks. If i were you, I would exclusively use desktop discord

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....which is what I do

keen burrow
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Yes, but

wide totem
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Shhh

wide totem
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He'll never experience the greatness that is OLED theme

storm birch
keen burrow
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If I were you, I'd have a cute doggo

median blade
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mods only talk to mods huh πŸ˜”

somber belfry
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!promote 670237058052390933 @Moderators

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Hi @median blade

median blade
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sure

rancid nebula
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"Hi"
"Sure"
What

lucid osprey
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haha

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thats awesome dude!

fluid plank
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mods!!!

uncut sail
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this is a really strange question, but what logical arguments are there against sentient AI completely replacing humans? extinction is bad but only from our perspective, so who's to say that a super-intelligent AI shouldn't make that decision?

neat light
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why should we care about perspectives that aren't our own?

dusky cliff
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.bm 816615770339541022

neat light
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lol

lucid osprey
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such a smart response

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.bm 816615770339541022

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I need to save it as well

uncut sail
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that's kinda the point though: said AI would be much more intelligent and capable than us - so logically, why shouldn't it get to decide everything?

fluid haven
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I don't think that'll end well for us.

dusky cliff
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evolution.

lucid osprey
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evolution of humans?

uncut sail
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we've naturally evolved to hate the idea of extinction, simply because of processes in nature. who are we though to decide that it's right or wrong? why shouldn't super-intelligent AI get to decide that?

zinc hatch
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Why should it?

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Why should anyone get to decide anything?

uncut sail
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because it's much more intelligent than us, and capable in almost every way. supposedly we get to make all the decisions right now because we're the most advanced species on the planet

neat light
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Why should being intelligent matter?

uncut sail
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that's an excellent point; we shouldn't necessarily get to decide that intelligence is good

zinc hatch
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supposedly we get to make all the decisions right now because we're the most advanced species on the planet

I'm not so sure about this statement

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If you're just talking about "having the means to make decisions and makes changes to our environments", yes

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That's more of a descriptive aspect: Not only are we intelligent, we have the means to make a lot of changes to our environment

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I don't think the ethical question of "Are we allowed to make such changes because we are intelligent" had much to do with it

uncut sail
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I guess this is an impossible argument to resolve - there's no reason we should be able to decide who gets decide what's right or wrong, but no reason we shouldn't either. the same would apply for any form of life...

neat light
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Yeah, anyone can try and think of a reason for either argument, but it would pretty much always fall back to "but why does that matter/why should you be able to decide that in the first place"?

uncut sail
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yup, because all judgements are relative

pulsar condor
# zinc hatch Why should anyone get to decide anything?

because we have a concept of responseability, being a species that has most impact on our and other species environment due to language and creativity that over time gave us meanings to do that and power to execute it... you can say all judgments are relative, but making decisions is not, it involves action as well, which is anything but relative... or?

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oh, i see, its a question about ai making decisions for us...

dusky cliff
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more of making decisions on us

pulsar condor
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dunno, honestly i dont believe ai could beat your self in making private decisions... on organising something like city planning, or other examples about pur collective machine, if it has proper expertise baked into, i say it should get a chance... ai is allready used in medicine for scanning mri images i thinknwith better precision that humans, in these tasks, i would advocate for ai making decisions...

balmy cape
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When (and if) ai gets to the point where it can self improve, our control ends there

dusky cliff
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If an AI makes a decision which turns out to be wrong later, who is held responsible?

severe trout
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the creator lol

lucid osprey
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definitely not

keen burrow
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Whatever you'd like to it to be, the public opinion will blame the programmers

lucid osprey
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should a parent be responsible for their child's mistakes? No.

lucid osprey
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if the child is young then fine, but

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if they are old then no

keen burrow
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No matter the kid age

lucid osprey
keen burrow
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Well, there was a flaw at some point

lucid osprey
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hmm

keen burrow
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And it is up to the parents/programmer to find and resolve it

lucid osprey
keen burrow
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In both cases, the acts of the AI/child will be bound to what they have been confronted during their young age

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And that's up to the parents/programmer to control that

lucid osprey
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interesting

keen burrow
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A'ight enough metaphysics for now, I have to go back to work

lucid osprey
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so, control the beginning stages ig

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balmy cape
lucid osprey
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did my pc get hanged or is it not working

balmy cape
lucid osprey
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balmy cape
lucid osprey
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wait why is my pc get hanged

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I didnt see anything

balmy cape
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restart discord

lucid osprey
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I thought the bot stopped working

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its taking time for the messages to reach me

somber belfry
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yeah, try not to spam the commands in such case

pulsar condor
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i dont think comparing ai with children is valid analogy... machine is machine, it has to perform as intended, there are protocols to avoid letting out bad machine or a program, there is none for the people (tough i wish there is)... dunno, how many mistakes did that medical ai made compared to human?

somber belfry
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you'll get muted by the bot

lucid osprey
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Okay

somber belfry
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and me hyperlemon

lucid osprey
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haha

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I know you've got access to mod only channels, does joe rick roll you 2-3 times in a daily basis?

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hahah

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I actually found another really mastermind rick roll

severe trout
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gib

lucid osprey
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I will remove embed

somber belfry
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Sorry, I'd rather have my sanity.

dusky cliff
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πŸ‘€

somber belfry
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and... yeah
dont mention such sites here

dusky cliff
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hmmMMM

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a m o g u s

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lapis night
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chemistry I πŸ™ƒ

pulsar condor
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currently fluent python

uncut sail
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and yeah - machine is machine, but looking at it that way, human is also machine.

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chemical messengers. the same effect could be replicated in machines

pulsar condor
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it depends on your world views...

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im not going into that

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i said something else...

balmy cape
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Human is a bowl of protein and fat with anxiety

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Its little surprising how we all alive

pulsar condor
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yes, they have to... outside of ai, printer must print, bulb must make light, car must drive.. machines, when designed, and deployed, are designed and deployed only if they are proven to function well enough to have a reason to exist, otherwise they get scrapped... we dont do that with people... once you f-up a kid, its hard to change him... and we, afaik, dont treat them as machines... ai, no matter the black box, still needs to output result, and that output can be guided to be lets say 99% effective... sure, we arent there yet, but we arent putting those ais in "the machine" exactly for the reasons inexplained... yet, some do perform so good they are allready taking place for a human...

blissful coral
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Anyone here knows the language chichewa, Nyangja?

uncut sail
pulsar condor
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over the ones we deployed, yes...

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over ones we study, not yet... with emphasis on yet...

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but thats not all i said

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anyway, i still hold my ground, that anything calculation wise, organisation etc should be given to ais...

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let them do the work, let us make love with each other... :D

uncut sail
#

agreed. but the domain of what falls under calculation and organisation doesn't have very well-defined borders - there's recently been an AI developed called the ramanujan machine which literally discovers new conjectures and algorithms. suppose that, hypothetically, this improved to the point that machines were over 1000x better than humans at maths. there go all the mathematicians. same applies eventually for programmers, scientists etc once machines go past the capacity of the squishy human brain

#

so eventually, AIs are better at virtually ever task than humans. you could even argue art could be taken over as machines learn to imitate and appeal to humans

#

what happens at that point?

tame sundial
#

mods!!!

full marlin
#

?

#

why are you calling the mods?

lucid osprey
#

.....

blissful coral
#

mOdS!!

lucid osprey
#

.randomcase mods

rustic harborBOT
#

MoDs

blissful coral
#

@pulsar condor No, that is not true at all

#

you guys are overestimating current AI too much

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maybe in a few decades; yes. but thats a big maybe

uncut sail
#

this is not a discussion about current AI

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it's about the implications of development of AI in general

blissful coral
#

it just takes some data, pumps it through a huge amount of numbers, and gives back a result. there have been multiple cases where machines have not performed 'as intended' and I feel this will only increase as machine learning improves
Rough analogy, but incorrect - AI wasn't hypothesized to be a black box; its just what has become of it in the practical realm. New methods try to adress this issue

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but we arent putting those ais in "the machine" exactly for the reasons inexplained...
No man. the reaon is that outside their task, its hard to get a model to generalize well in the real world. This is something OpenAI is trying to address and why you do not see AI tanks or fighter jets

uncut sail
blissful coral
#

hypothetically, this improved to the point that machines were over 1000x better than humans at maths. there go all the mathematicians
Mathematics is more than conjectures, but you do not understand the absolute basics.
ML/AI is mathematics. it's hard for something to destroy itself. It's hard for something to create something more complex than itself. It is the reason why we are struggling to make AGI's - we cannot make what we do not understand. BY that logic, mathematicians aren't going anywhere; no amount of mathematics can solve all mathematics

blissful coral
uncut sail
#

you've missed the point. I'm speculating that this machine would improve to become more general until it matched or exceeded the ability of modern mathematicians. I agree that it's difficult to make an AGI, but at this rate I believe we could reach something similar or crudely representative in the next few decades

uncut sail
blissful coral
uncut sail
#

yes. I agree.

full marlin
#

try 2100

#

someone said that by 2050 there's gonna be too much programmers???

#

yeah i'll be 49 lol

#

16 years away from retirement

balmy cape
full marlin
lucid osprey
#

haha

fluid plank
#

and he is 2 years to being 60

full marlin
#

maybe once my company fires me for being too old I'll work at a bootcamp

sinful sun
#

Step 1 is getting a job

pulsar condor
#

step 2 is being sane enough to keep a job for more than 3 months

full marlin
#

do you guys believe in the company family

#

and all these motivational events on linkedin and stuff

#

I think it's all bs

balmy cape
sinful sun
#

No

balmy cape
#

Most of them are complete bs

full marlin
#

yeah but like

#

if you skip them then you're seen as antisocial

#

how about instead of throwing these gigantic stupid events you just give everyone the money that thing would actually cost?

#

integrate the money into a raise or something

#

money talks

balmy cape
full marlin
#

well

#

you don't give them higher pay

#

they leave

balmy cape
#

Many dont, also companies usually offer higher pay if you going to leave

full marlin
#

I'm hoping in my future job I actually like my coworkers

#

but if I don't I'm just doing my 9 to 5 and then going home

balmy cape
#

I have nice coworkers, and also doing my 8 to 4 and going home, wont be there wihtout being paid :D

full marlin
#

the reason the company campus is so good is because they never want you to leave

#

don't just start off working 12 hours a day because then the company will force you to after you burn out

#

idk this is just stuff my parents never really told me

last imp
#

If I work more than 8 hours one day I work that much less another Β―_(ツ)_/Β―

full marlin
#

yeah I know

#

but don't make it a routine to work 12 hour days

#

there is a reason why work life balance exists

wide totem
balmy cape
balmy cape
#

:D Dont need that balance

full marlin
#

ok?

#

good for you?

balmy cape
#

x_x

#

ok

full marlin
#

I mean

#

I'm probably gonna get a job at a bootcamp teaching

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along w my hypothetical other job at whatever company

balmy cape
#

Btw, apply for litereally everything and anything

full marlin
#

yep

balmy cape
#

There's no harm in that

full marlin
#

I've recently started applying to project manager intern roles

#

just cuz why not

#

any way to get your foot in the door is a valid way

#

other than the illegal stuff

balmy cape
#

It works too, companies take it as valid experience :d

full marlin
#

good stuff

#

thanks for the advice

balmy cape
#

But probably some better choices out there

full marlin
#

yeah I'm applying to SWE, DS/ML, cybersecurity, web dev, and project manager roles

jovial island
#

is there a way to auto generate requirements.txt? Has anyone a nice script for it?

last imp
#

pip freeze > requirements.txt gets you started

jovial island
#

Thanks, let me try

jovial island
jovial island
#

Would anyone recommend another service other than edit: some hosting company to host a web scraper?

#

I might just try their service out, see if it works.

royal bridge
#

Hey

jovial island
#

Hey

wide totem
jovial island
#

per day

wide totem
#

No i mean some hosting company sounds sketch

jovial island
#

I edited the real name out

wide totem
jovial island
#

python anywhere

jovial island
wide totem
#

No idea

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I bought my own thing to use lel

jovial island
wide totem
#

Yee

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I ended spending about $80 for a home thing so a $5 subscription is pretty much worth it

pastel nest
#

mods!!! ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

wide totem
#

Unless you've angered one, there's no reason to be afraid~~

#

ISN'T THAT RIGHT @storm birch

storm birch
#

Of course.

Although there is always the chance that we get bored and go on a rampage, before we are yeeted of course.

wide totem
#

I FULLY AGREE quick someone hide the abuse

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NO RAMPAGE HERE hide fast

#

πŸ‘€

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Have you rampaged before?

#

Is fun imho

storm birch
#

haha, we have not had a rampage here afaik. We are very careful on who gets such power

wide totem
#

What happens if you mute me lol

#

For my nickname, obviously

storm birch
#

if I just mute you right now for no reason? Then you go to modmail and I get absolutely slapped by admins and mods

wide totem
#

Do it for 1M

storm birch
#

a🚌

wide totem
#

Become an eivl

storm birch
#

eivl is always in starwars cosplay, so he can do whatever he wants

wide totem
#

Lol

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Am I a watched member at this point o.O

storm birch
#

lol

wide totem
#

For my insistent requests to get punished

storm birch
#

Your methods are known

wide totem
#

I take that as a yes

storm birch
#

you should take is as cryptic

wide totem
#

Nah

#

Lemme

#

!src

clever salmonBOT
wide totem
#

What is big-brother

#

Is a watch channel in config

#

I can assume that talent pool is for more staff

#

@storm birch

#

So you know the source that uses bigbrother

storm birch
#

big-brother is how we keep an eye on some users, it is pretty much what you think it is haha

wide totem
#

O

#

Am I tracked πŸ‘€

storm birch
#

It is definitely Orwellian

storm birch
# wide totem Am I tracked πŸ‘€

We do not really discuss this sort of thing publicly. The feature existing is one thing, but we keep any infractions and moderating actions private most of the time.

wide totem
#

πŸ‘€

#

After looking at the source

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It relays every message - -

#

And I ping mods enough in chat anyhow

#

So uh

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It'd be redundant to track me

storm birch
keen burrow
#

Is ping spamming mods self reporting?

wide totem
#

<@&267629731250176001> this guy is pinging mods uselessly

storm birch
storm birch
wide totem
#

(it was edited in, no one got mentioned)

#

(unless discord changed how mentions worked again)

storm birch
#

I am lurking so hard to tell lol

wide totem
#

Yee

keen burrow
#

I only got one mention haha

full marlin
#

what is going on

jovial island
#

hi @keen burrow

full marlin
#

I am torturing myself

keen burrow
#

Hello!

wide totem
storm birch
full marlin
keen burrow
#

Did you just tried to ghost ping me while I was watching this channel haha

full marlin
#

but I'm using grokking algorithms

#

uhhh

#

would it help if I wrote some of this stuff down?

#

probably

storm birch
wide totem
full marlin
wide totem
#

e.e I think I actually annoyed akarys

full marlin
#

I mean

#

for arrays in python

#

couldn't I just do a random array and then append to it

#

call it a day?

storm birch
clever salmonBOT
#
class array.array(typecode[, initializer])```
A new array whose items are restricted by *typecode*, and initialized from the optional *initializer* value, which must be a list, a [bytes-like object](../glossary.html#term-bytes-like-object), or iterable over elements of the appropriate type.

If given a list or string, the initializer is passed to the new array’s [`fromlist()`](#array.array.fromlist "array.array.fromlist"), [`frombytes()`](#array.array.frombytes "array.array.frombytes"), or [`fromunicode()`](#array.array.fromunicode "array.array.fromunicode") method (see below) to add initial items to the array. Otherwise, the iterable initializer is passed to the [`extend()`](#array.array.extend "array.array.extend") method.

Raises an [auditing event](sys.html#auditing) `array.__new__` with arguments `typecode`, `initializer`.
keen burrow
#

You're welcome

storm birch
#

jkjk ily

full marlin
#

but Grokking calls them arrays

keen burrow
#

Haha

full marlin
#

the chapter is called arrays and linked lists

#

all I remember is that inserting stuff into arrays is not that great

keen burrow
#

... Why ...

full marlin
#

it's O(n) time complexity

keen burrow
#

Why would you make a linked list in Python

#

That's so stupid

full marlin
#

don't ask me

#

ask the dude who wrote the book in python 2.7

storm birch
full marlin
#

3.6 existed when the damn book came out

full marlin
#

plus literally every other book uses these gigantic paragraphs that I refuse to read

#

ok now I'm not happy

#

why does the book now show how arrays and linked lists are used w code???

wide totem
#

I heard 2.8 came out recently o.O

lament kestrel
full marlin
#

I think 3.9.1 is out

rich scarab
#

yes

keen burrow
#

3.10 soon

#

I wonder when it is scheduled for

#

10 April

lament kestrel
#

Y' know, I kinda thought it would be python 4 by now

neat light
#

People expected it to be 3.9 then 4.0 for a while, but they decided to keep going with 3

#

And it probably will do for a while

#

I think I saw 3.12 mentioned in a pep somewhere

full marlin
#

please no python 4 rn

#

I have barely learnt python 3

round moss
wide totem
# round moss if you check <#267624335836053506> pins, you will find a tweet from guido about ...

#python-discussion message

β€œPython 4 FAQ” tweet from Guido van Rossum (the creator of the language):
https://twitter.com/gvanrossum/status/1306082472443084801?s=21

Python 4 FAQ.

  1. The version after 3.9 is 3.10; in fact it already exists (in github master).
  2. If there ever is a version 4, the transition from 3 to 4 will be more like that from 1 to 2 rather than 2 to 3.
Retweets

690

Likes

3433

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πŸ˜‰

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e.e

keen burrow
wide totem
#

if my nickname isn't okay just change it for me I gtg offline rn

#

πŸ˜„

keen burrow
#

It is fine

#

I wonder what could make them switch to 4.X

blissful coral
#

if you miss the 0, its gonna cause some problems

neat light
keen burrow
#

Hmm interesting

#

!pep 563

clever salmonBOT
#
**PEP 563 - Postponed Evaluation of Annotations**
Status

Accepted

Python-Version

3.7

Created

08-Sep-2017

Type

Standards Track

keen burrow
#

Internet lied

neat light
#

PEP 393Β was implemented in Python 3.3 which is released in 2012. Old APIs were deprecated since then, and the removal was scheduled in Python 4.0.

Python 4.0 was expected as next version of Python 3.9 whenΒ PEP 393Β was accepted. But the next version of Python 3.9 is Python 3.10, not 4.0. This is why this PEP schedule the removal plan again.

keen burrow
#

Interesting

neat light
#

It seems PEP 393 was accepted in 2010 so that may have been pretty old lol. Although I don't see any mention of 4.0 in that actual pep, soooo I don't really know

keen burrow
#

Nggg github search sucks so bad

#

I want to know of any pep mentions "4.0"

#

I don't want to get any pep with the number 4 in their number

wide totem
#

!p 623

clever salmonBOT
#
**PEP 623 - Remove wstr from Unicode**
Status

Accepted

Python-Version

3.10

Created

25-Jun-2020

Type

Standards Track

wide totem
mortal umbra
#

SN10 MADE IT!!!

#

Oh now it just blew up after standing for like 5 mins

dim root
fluid plank
wide totem
#

@dim root what browser

dim root
#

is not discord’s

#

safari

wide totem
#

THAT'S SAFARI?

dim root
#

Yeah

fluid plank
#

yeah

wide totem
#

Where is the address bar??

dim root
#

I clipped it of

wide totem
#

It's above tabs

#

I forgot about that.

dim root
wide totem
#

O

median blade
fading pumice
#

Would u like windows 11. Pro

fading pumice
#

Anyone?

real forum
#

Also long time no speak

fading pumice
#

Indeed

real forum
#

To what question lol

fading pumice
#

Gift Cards for payment and u get an early access edition Windows 11

#

No scams here heheh

real forum
#

Something seems suspicious about that...

fading pumice
#

No no

#

Totally real

#

How are you? I haven't been here in 3 weeks

#

Other than a couple of ok's

real forum
#

I'm fine, hbu

fading pumice
#

Meh

fading pumice
real forum
#

Lol bye

fading pumice
#

Aurevoir

rustic harborBOT
#

!rUle 4

fading pumice
#

What I just said bye in french?

real forum
fading pumice
#

Pce?

real forum
fading pumice
#

Oh

#

Small brain time is = me

real forum
#

Rip

fading pumice
#

EA sports
Ctrl-c Ctrl-V

#

21 Fifa's

#

The real thing happens every 4 years

median blade
#

Aurevoir

#

...

#

hmm

rustic harborBOT
median blade
#

is this bot drunk?

rustic harborBOT
median blade
#

.snek

#

huh

#

its the mods >:(

rustic harborBOT
lucid osprey
#

.snek

#

lol

#

this bot is kinda sus

dim root
#

@vague shadow πŸŽ‰ Congrats!

vague shadow
#

Thanks πŸ˜„

dim root
balmy cape
#

Give me a SNEK!

rustic harborBOT
vague shadow
lucid osprey
#

anyone noticed? the moderator role ppl names are going down on the right side section

unreal sigil
#

The gradient has been interrupted, chaos has set upon the universe

lucid osprey
#

I remember when the right side thing was like "owners, admins, moderators"
so clean and organised 😌

unreal sigil
#

oh boy

#

there goes my discord client

lucid osprey
#

oof

#

reload moment

neat light
#

I wish you could just hide the general "online" section of the member list

unreal sigil
#

Yeah all I want is the pretty gradient

neat light
#

like if you accidentally scroll down into the mayhem section then the top of your member list just turns into this

echo fern
#

Ah, so what you're saying is that you don't like looking at normal users? πŸ˜›

neat light
#

yes no

echo fern
#

wait, what, why do you see roles under the Online list

lucid osprey
#

discord bug?

neat light
#

yeah

dusky cliff
#

yes

lucid osprey
#

oof

wide totem
neat light
dusky cliff
#

cnr?

wide totem
#

can not reproduce

dusky cliff
#

o

wide totem
dusky cliff
#

just scroll done one mile

#

and stand back and enjoy

neat light
#

i get it if i use the scrollbar, go down to near the bottom, let it load, and then move it around there for a bit, and then move back up to the top

wide totem
#

holy shit

dusky cliff
wide totem
#

WHY ARE THEY SO BOUNCY

neat light
#

lol ikr

#

that's people going offline and online

wide totem
#

bruh I'm trying to click on one person

#

oh I got the bug

neat light
#

although tbh it doesn't really make sense... i don't get why individual clients would need to know the status of every single member on the server at all times

#

you'd think it could be a bit clever...

wide totem
dusky cliff
#

lol

wide totem
#

eyes

#

didn't joe say modmail was moved to the top?

#

this is obviously a lie and fraud

lucid osprey
#

yeah I scrolled to the very bottom

#

and then its glitchig

#

but then the name doesnt go above owners

#

??

lucid osprey
#

?

dusky cliff
#

try it once or twice

tranquil ridge
#

eh doesnt work for me

lucid osprey
#

not for me

#

your pc is hacked thats why it works for you

#

lol

tranquil ridge
lucid osprey
#

I mean, it was bouncy and glitchy but the name never went above the owner thing

tranquil ridge
#

i think it doesnt bug on browser discord

lucid osprey
#

I am not on browser discord

#

btw

tranquil ridge
#

Β―_(ツ)_/Β―

wide totem
#

scroll nearly to the bottom

#

watch it bounce for a few

#

move around

#

then scroll back up

lucid osprey
#

I just did that

wide totem
#

!pypi discord-py-slash-command

clever salmonBOT
wide totem
#

why

#

I don't want to hear it

tribal tinsel
#

why sudo pip?

#

also, the best way to make sure you're using right pip is by doing python3.9 -m pip install or whatever version you have

keen burrow
#

Sudoing pip installs calls for disasters

full marlin
#

idk what sudoing pip means

#

all i do is pip install whatever package

steady plinth
#

running pip as root user

full marlin
#

root user???

#

sorry am noob

steady plinth
#

linux based os thing

keen burrow
#

When you prefix your command with sudo, you will run it as the root user

#

It is like running something as administrator on windows

#

But in Linux it is based on user accounts

steady plinth
#

but that administrator is an actual admin not like windows

#

windows just don't let you kill itself

keen burrow
#

Hmm

#

There are some protections in Linux

steady plinth
#

it is still better than windows
and you can override those protections by one way or another

in windows its nearly impossible

keen burrow
#

Yep

tribal tinsel
#

i installed sudo for windows. I got annoyed by having to open another cmd but as admin, so I got something that opens it for me (it still prompts whether I want to open something as admin but at least I don't have to search for cmd)

#

I always open cmd by doing win+R, so searching for one in start menu and right-clicking it for admin was annoying af

keen burrow
#

I didn't know that was a thing

#

Does it prompt you with an UAC screen?

tribal tinsel
keen burrow
#

Hmm I guess that isn't bad

jovial island
#

ok, so how do I copy data from 1 table to another with postgres? the tables are in separate DBs

keen burrow
#

It is a bit similar to typing your root password

#

Except for the annoying sound

steady plinth
keen burrow
#

I feel like windows sounds are designed to be annoying

steady plinth
jovial island
#

ooh noice

jovial island
#

someone convert this hehe 1100101 1110000 1101001 1100011

tribal tinsel
blissful coral
#

!e

"".join(chr(int(elem, 2)) for elem in "1100101 1110000 1101001 1100011".split(" "))
clever salmonBOT
#

You are not allowed to use that command here. Please use the #bot-commands channel instead.

shrewd lance
#

!e print("".join(chr(int(elem, 2)) for elem in "1100101 1110000 1101001 1100011".split(" ")))

clever salmonBOT
#

@shrewd lance :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.

epic
blissful coral
#

noice

jovial island
#

epic

#

bru

crimson breach
#

'elo friends

hollow talon
#

hi

crimson breach
#

what's up this evening?

viral hare
#

seems like good bot to make

odd sphinx
#

thats a cool idea

soft quiver
#

@jovial island a language eh? πŸ‘€

jovial island
#

yah

#

so i will be making a new language called cobra but it's written in python

#

the syntax will be like the english language

soft quiver
#

ever done language design/construction before?

jovial island
#

i heard something about a language πŸ‘€

#

ive tried in cs class

#

idk i asked a few of my coder friends and they told me if i was going to use python to make another language execution speed would be horrendous

soft quiver
#

fair warning: writing a parser/ast generator sucks

jovial island
#

like half a second delays just for print statements

#

you're gonna have to use the sacred c my friend

#

sigh

#

i cant call it cobra though

#

:sad

soft quiver
#

i mean, not wrong, python is not really fast enough for actual language execution in a useful way, however, as a project it makes sense for learning about languages, parsing, ast generation, etc.

jovial island
#

are you a coder by profession

soft quiver
#

one thing I've done before is write the parser/ast generator in python and a friend wrote a bytecode vm in rust, the parsing simplicity of python combined with the speed of a rust vm is pretty nice

#

i'm unemployed by profession rn pensivewobble

jovial island
#

oof

#

it'll get better dude

soft quiver
#

but I do a lot of programming lol

full marlin
#

Have you been applying?

jovial island
#

back in '54 i lost my job due to electricity becoming more prominent

#

and i am trying to score a job that has absolutely nothing to do with programming

soft quiver
#

nothing to apply for that I'd be able to do here currently

jovial island
#

wait

#

54?

#

yep

soft quiver
#

besides, my intent is to be a firefighter not a programmer, strangely enough

jovial island
#

i used to operate hand cranks for trolleys

#

and then electricity came along

full marlin
#

Well you’re in the right place if you want to learn

jovial island
full marlin
#

do what makes you happy tbh

soft quiver
#

indeed

jovial island
#

but again, i've always wanted to be a forensics expert

full marlin
#

You could go into computer forensics

soft quiver
#

i dont really mind what i become in the end, provided it doesnt bore me

full marlin
#

nothing bores me in coding

#

every day it’s always a new problem or a new concept

jovial island
#

i get bored really fast when programming

soft quiver
#

yeah i find coding very fun, but firefighting likely more so

full marlin
#

I can code for hours on end and keep asking questions

tranquil ridge
#

did i see rust

full marlin
#

when I was at college I spent most of my time at office hours

jovial island
jovial island
#

guys can people ask python questions on here

#

?

#

im new

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i have gone to the private nickel chat no one has responded

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Welcome! You'll just have to patiently wait until someone responds, we're all volunteers here lemon_pleased Although, if you feel like you aren't getting an answer, consider improving your answer (making it more concise, clear and so on)

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ok

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are you guys all uni students

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or people who have finished university long ago

full marlin
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I’m in college

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Some people are in high school

soft quiver
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(though i have no room to talk because by now my sentence composition skills have deteriorated to the level of almost not being understandable unless i try hard kek )

fluid plank
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im in uni

jovial island
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cool

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do any of you guys practice chakra im a beginner

tranquil ridge
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chakra?

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is this a naruto reference or something

fluid plank
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they replaced it with chromium because edge is sad?

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πŸ₯³

jovial island
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nah its actual chakra meditation