ot1-perplexing-regexing

[harsh tundra]

In some Slavic languages, it represents the continuation of Proto-Slavic, non-palatal ⟨L⟩ (dark L), except in Polish, Kashubian, and Sorbian, where it evolved further into /w/.

Lol, Wikipedia uses the same example of water

In Polish, ⟨Ł⟩ is used to distinguish historical dark (velarized) L [ɫ] from clear L [l]. The Polish ⟨Ł⟩ now sounds the same as the English ⟨W⟩, as in water (except for older speakers in some eastern dialects where it still sounds velarized).

Oh, it seems Polish used that sound historically but Russian kept it.

Polish final Ł also often corresponds to Ukrainian word-final ⟨В⟩ Ve (Cyrillic) and Belarusian ⟨Ў⟩ (Short U (Cyrillic). Thus, "he gave" is "dał" in Polish, "дав" in Ukrainian, "даў" in Belarusian (all pronounced [daw]), but "дал" [daɫ] in Russian.

/w/ vs /ɫ/

[shell raptor]

huh

I always wondered why Ukrainian paste tense verbs end in V whereas ours end in L

that seems to explain it

but the last sound of "дал" is just L

well, not the English L

[harsh tundra]

That's why it says it's ɫ in phonetic alphabet

[shell raptor]

ah

[harsh tundra]

It's that... Soft L thing.
When Poles learn Russian, we are mostly told that Л is both L and Ł, I never looked into specific sounds, so I didn't notice the difference

I just knew to pronounce is more softly than Polish Ł XD

I love how you have Ж. And Ш and Ч.
In Polish we have ż/rz (both pronounced as ж, apparently they historically were different and now it's just orthography), and then sz and cz. As I said, Polish would work well in Cyrillic but historically we got baptised by Czechia and stayed with Catholicism so we got Latin alphabet

I also hate how international transliteration doesn't make much sense in Polish. We have those letters/sounds. Surnames being officially internationally transcribed as -tsky when it's just -cki. Or Ярослав at my uni group had his name as "Iaroslav", but it's just Jarosław in Polish. He had Polish family and signed his papers in Polish name (had -cki kind of surname as well)

[shell raptor]

I have two debit cards: one I made myself and another one I got from university

they have different transliterations of my name 😐

[coral sky]

@paper plover Is your pfp from Limbo?

[paper plover]

Idk is that someone from tik tok?

I was scrolling on there and it looked cool so I screenshotted xd

[coral sky]

Nope, Limbo is a great game. If you're bored, I highly suggest trying it out! Really awesome game

[paper plover]

Oh my bad, Ill look it up later!

[coral sky]

Great :D

[paper plover]

:D

[floral apex]

https://youtu.be/xP5-iIeKXE8 Life in life

[dire siren]

Game in Game

[manic storm]

for (int i = 0; i < size; i++) {
  int curr = arr[i].getKey();
  int pointer1 = 0;
  int pointer2 = 0;
  for (int j = 0; j < size; j++) {
    if (arr[j].getKey() == curr) {
      pointer1 = j;
    }
    if (copy[j].getKey() == curr) {
      pointer2 = j;
    }
    if (arr[pointer1].getValue() != copy[pointer2].getValue()) {
      return false;
    }
  }
}```

if copy is [(10, 20), (5, 20), (8, 20), (5, 1)]
and arr is [(5, 20), (5, 1), (8, 20), (10, 20)]

for the first iteration,
curr would be 5,
pointer1 would be 0,
pointer2 would be 1?

im not sure if the j loop works like that like pointer1 can be 0, then j can continue to increment for pointer2 to 1?

[vocal wren]

#python-discussion message
@rough sapphire Just two AP classes right now

[rough sapphire]

are you passing with straight As?

[vocal wren]

Hah, nope

[rough sapphire]

what are they?

Im taking AP Chem and AP Calc rn

I wanna take more but JROTC takes up 2 terms

[vocal wren]

World history and comp sci

[rough sapphire]

is world history hard?

[vocal wren]

Very, and my teacher isn't particularly wonderful

I don't have too much to personally compare it to though

[rough sapphire]

@vocal wren I read that you've earned over a thousand dollars while writing on medium

Do you have any tips for me to make money?

I want to start my own blog with Django and React

[opaque bronze]

don't start a blog with an expectation of making money

[rough sapphire]

no

I don't want to start a blog to make money

I want it for college application

[opaque bronze]

o

good luck in your endeavor 👍

[vocal wren]

Personally I'd say don't start with that in mind either, try to focus your intentions on just sharing what you're good at

[rough sapphire]

okay

[vocal wren]

Also if you're curious, my earnings are mainly from one article that just happened to go somewhat viral

So another key I'll add in here is to write about what's relevant

[rough sapphire]

how do you make money though

does article get famous or something

[vocal wren]

I earn from my writing because I get paid through Medium, and their platform also definitely helps you reach a wider audience

[rough sapphire]

may i get a link to your viral post?

[vocal wren]

https://betterprogramming.pub/4-new-github-products-that-will-change-how-you-code-27933401faa0?sk=d298a554ccb7d9c5d5c6bd8f48a9d777 (This link should get you around the paywall, let me know if not.)

[rough sapphire]

wow nice

[opaque bronze]

me who deletes cookies to get around paywall 👀

[woeful cipher]

What do you think is the best package for printing bold/colored text in python?

[floral apex]

Didn't know Medium earns you money

[dire siren]

colorama

[woeful cipher]

how do i just get the bold ascii code in colorama?

[latent scaffold]

tbh I love using rich even just for coloring

you'd just do something like

from rich.console import Console

console = Console()
console.print("[bold red]Meow![/]")

If you're wondering how that looks:

[dire siren]

I think it's in colorama.Style

yeah rich is better, I forgot that choice sorry

[woeful cipher]

i cant find it :(

[woeful cipher]

is it possible to get the ascii for bold in rich?

[dire siren]

yeah

look what he is doing in the pic

[woeful cipher]

i dont want to print it just yet actually

logging.basicConfig(
    level=logging.INFO, format="%(asctime)s %(filename)s - %(levelname)s - %(message)s"
)

this is what im trying to do

iw ant to wrap the level name with the bold ascii code

so i cant really print the text

[latent scaffold]

You keep saying ASCII but I think you mean ANSI

[woeful cipher]

smh my bad

my brain is just kind of confused lol

[latent scaffold]

if you're doing logging, just use the RichHandler

https://rich.readthedocs.io/en/stable/logging.html

[woeful cipher]

aha thanks!

[mild abyss]

goodnight

[latent scaffold]

sorry \😩 I reopened Discord after the notification

look how helpful I am, though

[mild abyss]

stop helping and start loving

[latent scaffold]

why not both

[floral apex]

How do I make print convoluted
System.Console.Write.Logl

[fathom niche]

How do you guys fix/recover from a repo with broken history or smth

[woeful cipher]

the emoji isnt discordified :O

[topaz aurora]

Depends, what're you trying to do?

[harsh tundra]

\😱

[fathom niche]

I did some stuff and I just made useless pull request commits and stuff

[topaz aurora]

Well, you can do an interactive rebase, delete the junk commits, and fhen force push

But meh, just leave them be

[woeful cipher]

😱

[fathom niche]

Aight thanks

[dire siren]

why shift + delete works faster than delete

🤔

[gritty zinc]

what's the context on that

[dire siren]

idk, i just feel faster. i'm not sure if it's even correct

[topaz aurora]

Deletes by word instead

[dire siren]

i cleared my recycle bin

i used to have 75.4 gb free

now i have 85.4 gb free

why do i have so much trash there bruh

[last mantle]

@edgy crest

[edgy crest]

o

[harsh tundra]

I'm playing with tempering chocolate :3

Also cheating my age (also from tempered chocolate) on cake my partner made XD

[fathom niche]

https://youtu.be/DhUpxWjOhME

What's the pyproject.toml for?

I didn't see him using poetry

[fathom niche]

[wraith hound]

A lot of tools allow it for configuration

There's a PEP standard for it

!pep 621 is one, and then there's some other specific ones

[royal lake]

**PEP 621 - Storing project metadata in pyproject.toml**

Link

Status

Final

Created

22-Jun-2020

Type

Standards Track

[fathom niche]

Hmm

[acoustic moss]

three mice??

[fathom niche]

So instead of using .isort.cfg and .flake8 I can put both in pyproject.toml? (Assuming both support it?)

[wraith hound]

uhhh

isort supports it

I don't think flake8 does

[harsh tundra]

Didn't work, I got correct number of candles XD

[quick ledge]

happy birthday!?

[acoustic moss]

happy birthday!!

[harsh tundra]

I'm only 25.997 today. It's tomorrow XD

But ty ❤️❤️❤️

[rough sapphire]

u drink?

[harsh tundra]

*u drunk? Yes, lol

My MIL decided to try whisky with cola. Didn't know how much to pour. Poured too muck whisky XD

[jovial oriole]

plain overkill, 7 or nothing smh

[floral apex]

I am obligated to say OwO

[floral apex]

Hm, I don't need one, but if I do, there's these two

Sanity or Strapi

[latent scaffold]

oh gosh

I hate that bottom search bar

[bright hemlock]

anyone here good with linux? The linux discord is terrrible

[frozen crane]

what is your question about linux? "asking to ask" doesn't really attract potential answerers.

[bright hemlock]

true. my question is how would I make several files with different extensions in one specific file location? (I know I would use the touch command)

[mild abyss]

just use the touch command with multiple arguments that have different file extensions. one thing u can probably do is touch pathtodirectory/{somefile.txt,somefile.jl,somefile.py,somefile.rs}

dont add spaces before or after the commas

[bright hemlock]

ty, would their be a faster way to do this I need 10 of 4 different extensions?

[latent scaffold]

wasn't this for homework?

[bright hemlock]

no

[latent scaffold]

what was it from, then?

[bright hemlock]

personal use for something

[latent scaffold]

uh

[bright hemlock]

do u wanna help or something?

[latent scaffold]

well I can't really tell what you're wanting

and I know you were previously asking for help with a homework question

[mild abyss]

?

[latent scaffold]

We just have to take rule 8 into account

!rule 8

[royal lake]

Rules

8. Do not help with ongoing exams. When helping with homework, help people learn how to do the assignment without doing it for them.

[latent scaffold]

so we kinda need more info from you

[latent scaffold]

a simple expansion would work

[bright hemlock]

you dont. Stop burying my reply if you arent going to help.

[mild abyss]

oh yeah i was dumb

[bright hemlock]

its fine ill just type it out ty

[latent scaffold]

We do, though. If it's for an assignment, we can't just give you the answers especially if we don't know what you're supposed to be learning

[bright hemlock]

I already told u it wasnt

thats enough info

[mild abyss]

well if it is actually for homework, well go brain drain yourself and regret later in life 🥴

[latent scaffold]

Well, questions like that are definitely more likely to be for an assignment — especially since your previous question was one

but not that that's a terrible thing

[mild abyss]

nah just let them brain drain themselves

theyre going to have regrets 🥴

[next locust]

will flake8 support pyproject.toml anytime soon?

[latent scaffold]

How's that supposed to work?

[next locust]

instead of putting your config in .flake8 put it in pyproject.toml?

(I don't know much about pyproject.toml much btw)

[latent scaffold]

idk if that'd make much sense, I think pyproject.toml is supposed to only really be for packaging and distribution

[next locust]

hmm

aight thanks!

[floral apex]

And I hate top search bars since they're too far to reach

I am very lazy

[latent scaffold]

I guess that makes sense

but it's also like really weird

[floral apex]

That's fine and understandable

I mainly use my thumbs on my phone

You can probably see why I don't like it at the top

[distant hazel]

@rough sapphire please talk here for non-python things

[rough sapphire]

but this chat is dead!

[distant hazel]

you can bring it back to life with interesting conversation

but that's up to you

[distant hazel]

!help helpdm

[royal lake]

Command Help

!helpdm <state_bool>
*Allows user to toggle "Helping" dms.

If this is set to on the user will receive a dm for the channel they are participating in.

If this is set to off the user will not receive a dm for channel that they are participating in.*

[distant hazel]

@young shoal hey does this command work for you outside of bot-commands?

[young shoal]

!helpdm

[royal lake]

Missing required argument

state_bool

Command Help

!helpdm <state_bool>
*Allows user to toggle "Helping" dms.

If this is set to on the user will receive a dm for the channel they are participating in.

If this is set to off the user will not receive a dm for channel that they are participating in.*

[young shoal]

!helpdm on

[royal lake]

:ok_hand: @young shoal Help DMs ON!

[young shoal]

yes

@distant hazel

[distant hazel]

tyty

[eternal wing]

@cloud lichen Hello, we have loads of channels. We even have our own help system. Please see #❓｜how-to-get-help, that should explain how to use it.

You can use these off-topic channels (the one we are in right now) for things not very related to python. We also have loads of topical channels for more specific discussions.

[cloud lichen]

thanks

[eternal wing]

No problem at all

[fathom niche]

I'm trying to ssh to github codespace (via gh codespace ssh <codespace name>) managed by cs50 it requires Ubuntu@localhost password
How do I know what the password is?

[alpine edge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/800179054840905749/937191244495462430/catsingfull.mp4

[opaque bronze]

man why is this so good

[bold moat]

wow nice ot name

[distant hazel]

i'm gonna guess this was @karmic gust

[karmic gust]

why me

[distant hazel]

bc alliteration

you seem to have an affinity for alliteration

[karmic gust]

it is a superb series of starting syllables

[latent scaffold]

alliteration affinity \🤔

[karmic gust]

hah it was not me

[rough sapphire]

guys pls gude me for making a new module???

plspslpsl

[mellow spire]

Happy birthday @harsh tundra

[white copper]

I have a math question.

What is √i?
If you want an answer, DM me. 🙂

[tardy rain]

You have a question but you also have an answer?

[dire siren]

multiposted btw

[tardy rain]

Checks out

[dull turtle]

It is soo damn cold in this house, it was like 62 or something and my parents REFUSE to put it to 70

[tardy rain]

62 is fine, put a sweatshirt on

[bold moat]

yep no prob

[rough sapphire]

thanks

62 is not cold for me

[bold moat]

oh yeah

[harsh tundra]

❤️

[stark prawn]

17 is nice and cozy at this time of year

[molten bloom]

sheesh i rushed a git commit right before dinner

[woeful cipher]

insert applause

[tranquil orchid]

17 is cold 👀

It's starting to cool down for me

[edgy crest]

and its starting to warm up here

[runic wigeon]

still freezing here

[clear acorn]

[lime maple]

Hello, I haven't seen sun like in forever.

-1 to 10 degree Celsius all day

Every day

[lime maple]

Australia ay

[lime maple]

It will be summer here if that's the temperature

[viscid hemlock]

Oh yeah congrats! 🥳

[graceful basin]

I consider it valuable to normalise including pronouns regardless of gender identity @rough sapphire

[noble niche]

@naive ether __file__ is a special variable containing the absolute path of the python file thats being run, if it exists

!e print(__file__)

[royal lake]

@noble niche :x: Your eval job has completed with return code 1.

001 | Traceback (most recent call last):
002 |   File "<string>", line 1, in <module>
003 | NameError: name '__file__' is not defined. Did you mean: '__name__'?

[noble niche]

this wouldnt work as the bot isnt running a file

so there's no __file__

!e print(globals())

[royal lake]

@noble niche :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.

{'__name__': '__main__', '__doc__': None, '__package__': None, '__loader__': <class '_frozen_importlib.BuiltinImporter'>, '__spec__': None, '__annotations__': {}, '__builtins__': <module 'builtins' (built-in)>}

[noble niche]

it does still have some special vars as you can see /\

[naive ether]

but to compare? i still dont understand

compile it randomly

[noble niche]

from pathlib import Path
folder_name = Path(__file__).parent.name

if folder_name == 'random_name':
    print('tada')
```as ive said before, the pathlib stuff lets you compare the folder name directly

if you need further explanation open a channel and ping me

[naive ether]

no i mean

compare the folder name "folder" with ".folder"

[noble niche]

".folder" being just a string representing a relative path, and "folder" being just a string with the name of a folder, not a path to it?

[jovial oriole]

!e py for file in os.listdir('./'): print(file)

[royal lake]

@jovial oriole :x: Your eval job has completed with return code 1.

001 | Traceback (most recent call last):
002 |   File "<string>", line 1, in <module>
003 | NameError: name 'os' is not defined

[jovial oriole]

!e py import os for file in os.listdir('./'): print(file)

[royal lake]

@jovial oriole :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.

001 | Pipfile.lock
002 | Pipfile
003 | config
004 | snekbox
005 | user_base
006 | tests
007 | LICENSE

[jovial oriole]

hmmmm

[jovial oriole]

.bm

[wraith hound]

FYI it's all open source

https://git.pydis.com/snekbox

[jovial oriole]

oh really?

[wraith hound]

mhm

[jovial oriole]

mhm

[gritty zinc]

wait, what the fuck

since when can channel names be this long

[dapper dew]

Gotta have the alliteration

[young shoal]

the alliteration is an acquired...appetite?

[harsh tundra]

Affection

[vocal wren]

@thorn lagoon yeah the .in site is definitely further ahead in textbook solutions too

[thorn lagoon]

like almost all grades

[vocal wren]

They had them first and I'd guess they have the most books on the indian site

[thorn lagoon]

i guess so

[bold moat]

joe how is it up thee

[vocal wren]

And my expertise here is that I spent a lot of time modding/answering on Brainly in the past https://brainly.com/app/profile/13888565/answers

[thorn lagoon]

hm

ooooo thats a lot

[vocal wren]

Just a bit

[bold moat]

youre my saviour probably

like whenever i cant understand de math problem

i hop on to brainly

[vocal wren]

Thanked by 4.1k people on there so maybe 😂

[bold moat]

yes

like brainly answerers or whatever you call them really deserve the gratitude

[vocal wren]

I'm still friends with a few people on the trusted helpers team, I'll pass that on 😉

[bold moat]

thx

[remote citrus]

i can see something like this instead of a song name in the polybar, i used this module: https://github.com/PrayagS/polybar-spotify
I can give my config files if needed

[gleaming gull]

Did u dir it

[remote citrus]

Dir??

[gleaming gull]

dir(ur code)

[remote citrus]

Bruh can't understand what ur saying

2757...

[dire siren]

time to ping joe for stats guys

[floral apex]

Too illiterate to alliterate to reiterate what I'll recreate

I tried

[mild abyss]

https://youtu.be/kpSO55fTSZc angy klee uwu

[uneven pine]

that's mildly annoyed at best

[rough sapphire]

!e

import os
for file in os.listdir('\\'):
  print(file)

[royal lake]

@rough sapphire :x: Your eval job has completed with return code 1.

001 | Traceback (most recent call last):
002 |   File "<string>", line 2, in <module>
003 | FileNotFoundError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '\\'

[rough sapphire]

!e

import os
for file in os.listdir("\"):
  os.delete(file)

!e

import os
for file in os.listdir('/'):
  os.delete(file)

:trashcan;

[uneven pine]

man this place has gone farther and farther every time I come back

[rough sapphire]

Damn

[floral apex]

I know a horror show

C++ written spaghetti codebase

[uneven pine]

!ok

[vestal wraith]

heya, i need a really long complicated tittle for the IT department

[tepid crane]

Hey!

I am using pyttsx3 to play some text to speech

but i get some reallllly robotic voice

any way to fix that?

my code: ```py
listener = sr.Recognizer()
engine = pyttsx3.init()
voices = engine.getProperty('voices')
engine.setProperty('voice', 'english')
engine.setProperty("rate", 150)

[uneven pine]

@vestal wraith Information Technology Wizard of the Twelfth Realm of Ephysiyes Master of Light and Shadow Manipulator of Data Delights Devourer of Chaos Champion of the Great Firewalls of Ter'akkas

[vestal wraith]

Pretty good so far

Just need it to have tech words and not fantasy

Or atleast words that sou d techy but are made up

Like deep learning

[acoustic moss]

all words are made up, pontus

[vestal wraith]

i mean yeah :b

iwant sme startrek mombo jumbo

[floral apex]

Cloud Nine Realm Informatorium of the Grand Mathematical Masters of the Data Hoarding Stalkers In The Depths Of The Great Firewalls of Big Tech

I dunno what I came up with

[vestal wraith]

mhhr doesnt sound official enough

The Department of cloud data storage and Information subspace hoarding with the verterium cortenide deflector generators and ion transwarp injectors.

[floral apex]

Sounds Scifi

[vestal wraith]

mm

i need like a goverment branch sounding namei think

so ppl think i actually do stuff down here

if we can encoorperate a name for "dungeon" or "IT basement" so ppl know where it is aswell, that be swell

[rough sapphire]

What do you call somoene who owns a farm?

[thin cloak]

Dungeon has sex kink connotation or medieval torture or both lol...IT basement...
IT fallout shelter... perfect for uptime even during nuke strike

[dire siren]

basically copy all channels' name under topical chat/help

[floral apex]

The IT Basement Sex Dungeon

There I combined the two

[thin cloak]

Thd IT Basement Sex Dungeon and Fallout Shelter with massage service (torture for enemy combatants)...

[shut ermine]

sounds like a good time but im still gonna have to charge you ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[vestal wraith]

it needs to sound official

like goverment official

[floral apex]

The Department of Internet Technology Maintainance and Backend Systems Management

[vestal wraith]

osunds much better

internet needs to be converted

Information Infrastructure

[mild abyss]

i wonder if there is a masters in bioinformatics somewhere in Ph

🤔

[vestal wraith]

The Maintaince department of Information pipeline Infrastructure technology and Backend system management,

[thin cloak]

Internet = information pipeline infrastructure

[vestal wraith]

oh yeah, i need to make sure to put in that iam the member of it, or the crew

[thin cloak]

Department of electronic data processing on premises and on the cloud and information pipeline infrastructure management....

EDP or Electronic Data Processing is olde IT Dept name before MIS

[shut ermine]

kinda hard to make anything sound official with a basement or a dungeon 💀

[vestal wraith]

The "cloud" is to informational

cant belivie im getting paid to just check if the data server is flashing

kinda sounds like " information pipeline infrastructure management.." is cut off, like it needs more

[bold moat]

man memeology is quite the server

discord.gg/memes

ooh its supported

ig they dont know the userbase

[graceful basin]

we allow all servers with a vanity URL or something of that shape

[bold moat]

oh

[stray veldt]

hi giys

[floral apex]

Remember, the cloud is just someone else's computer ;)

[meager lava]

In my day we called them mainframes...

leased computing time and paid by the card 😄

[quick ledge]

yes but mainframes get hacked all the time by dudes wearing black hoodie with their terminal font set to green

"I'm in."

[dapper dew]

> color 02
> tree
> ping

I'm in

[floral apex]

To infinity and beyond (Brad's Matrix screensaver)

Meanwhile I will go

To my bed

And sleep

[dapper dew]

cmatrix -lba

[thorn lagoon]

i think that's from toy story

not matrix

[last mantle]

thats ksp

ksp 2 when

[dapper dew]

Soon™️

Should be this year

https://www.kerbalspaceprogram.com/game/kerbal-space-program-2/

[tight zodiac]

here is the photo upscaled 4x and 16x respectively because i wanted to use that as a profile picture but i didnt like it being pixelated

https://imgur.com/a/EB9L3HO 4x

https://imgur.com/a/kupjLIo (16x)

[dapper dew]

Thank you kind kerbalnaut

[brave minnow]

Lets be honest, moat of us who fucking know python and shit wont get a girlfriend

[tardy rain]

no that just sounds like you

getting a girlfriend doesnt depend on how much python you know

[dapper dew]

Yeah that doesn't quite hold water

(I'm also married ¯_(ツ)_/¯)

[jovial flame]

projecting, ay?

[harsh tundra]

When I have a call with one person and they share their terminal, I'm always caught off guard with their colour scheme. Because yes, they use that neon green on black :D

[floral apex]

Basic bitch colors here

White on black with a little bit of customization

[shut ermine]

yeah most of the people i enjoy hanging out with are dudes and i dont really have any sex attraction to make me go out of my way and try befriending a "big tiddy goth" for gf purposes, but a catboy is close enough ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[thin cloak]

Probably not this year....lol but I had the unfortunate experience of a girl I didnt know once asking me for a date for one valentines day..Never gone on a date and didnt know her personally so I said no...later she stalked me, flooded my fb...(no longer checking) spammed my email and cell....changed both....she claimed she watches me by my bedroom window in one of those spam msg ...gasp...

[bold moat]

is that the npc from spongebob

[bold moat]

if she actually watches you by your bedroom, yelling among us every 5 or so seconds will help. although this will yield a side effect, prompting a character called "your mom" to come and beat you up for making so much noise. the next one is a joke. also attack her insecurities by saying that she is too fat to move around to even reach your house

[thin cloak]

I tested this by living in a dorm ...she said she missed me in a text while I was at uni lol...creepy

[bold moat]

hmmm i wonder why people make such attachments to people without actually talking to them

wait

[floral apex]

Parasocial Relationships, yes

[bold moat]

if you ever spot her looking at you, then shut down the lights suddenly, and then play freddy's music box

Sir Frederickson's harsh melody will put that young lady to sleep quickly!

🧐

[thin cloak]

Creepy sound like paranormal...she also claimed to have a third eye and see ghosts in a text lol...why I changed sim etc

[bold moat]

shoulda told her to ask them the last name of obama

you shouldnt have missed the opportunity to do a "tiny bit" of joking around

[floral apex]

Transferring 7.7 GB onto an external hard disk

Bless me with patience

And yes I said HDD, not SSD

[bold moat]

thou musteth be blessed by god

[floral apex]

That's just for one user

[shut ermine]

that just sounds like the average u-haul lesbian :> /s

[coarse dock]

Sounds like a couple ppl I know ngl

[thin cloak]

Lol really I dont believe in such ghosts and third eyes

[coarse dock]

Me neither

I kinda cringe when ppl ask what my zodiac or whatever is a little bit

[tardy rain]

I knew someone in my uni circles that actually spent money on psychics and crystals

[coarse dock]

I mean at least it's APG fuel

Fluorite crystals as it turn out are very toxic

[rough sapphire]

Good night 🌃

Good night

[royal lake]

:incoming_envelope: :ok_hand: applied mute to @rough sapphire until <t:1643793220:f> (9 minutes and 59 seconds) (reason: duplicates rule: sent 4 duplicated messages in 10s).

[quick ledge]

good night

[mild abyss]

damn

[tardy rain]

<@&831776746206265384> cross posting a survey

cheers

[frozen coral]

!warn 782906494034903051 As per our sixth rule, please don't use our server to post unapproved advertising

[royal lake]

:incoming_envelope: :ok_hand: applied warning to @frail sun.

[frozen coral]

No probs 😄 the new version of our clean command is so much nicer to use

[hushed shadow]

I want to make a js program which when runs the following output should be displayed:

1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13, 21, 34, 55, 89, 144

(ignore the first number)

So bascially what is happening in the above sequence i that first 0 + 1 = 1 (So the first number is one)

Then 1+1 is 2 so next number is 2

then 2+1 is 3 so the next number is 3

I cant figure out the equation.

I Have to use for loops

[wraith hound]

It's the fibonacii sequence

I don't know the equation, but I know there is one

[inland wolf]

bruh

its f(i) = f(i-1) + f(i-2)

[hushed shadow]

whats f?

[inland wolf]

fibonacci function

f(1) and f(2) should be = 1

[hushed shadow]

what if i remove f?

[inland wolf]

no i was saying that mathematically

its not ur exact answer i was replying to dawn

[rough sapphire]

This is missing that f(0) = 0 and f(1) = 1

And then f(i) = f(i-1) + f(i-2)

[inland wolf]

yea

i thought it was f(1) and f(2) = 1

[rough sapphire]

If you meant f(1) = 0 and f(2) = 1 then that's equivalent (but with shifted domain)

[inland wolf]

no i was just wrong

xd

[rough sapphire]

With for loops though, what you want to do is use the following algorithm:

n := 0
m := 1

repeat:
t := m
m := m + n
n := t

[wraith hound]

Oh right

I'm stupid

This is how wonderful morning brains are

[rough sapphire]

There actually is an equation too

A closed form one

Seems like something that would appear there 👀

[clear plume]

A formula for fib 💀

[soft violet]

Maybe I just don't understand the notation, but that looks like a complicated way of writing a function that just spits out zero.

[acoustic moss]

its 1 + sqrt(5) on the left and 1 - sqrt(5) on the right

[soft violet]

Ah. Missed that.

Damn it. Obvious, now.

[floral apex]

I wonder what the square root of 5 is doing there

[acoustic moss]

funny that that formula works

[soft violet]

I recognised the formula for phi, though.

[floral apex]

Actually everything there, I'm confused

[rough sapphire]

It's the golden ratio

[floral apex]

It looks like magic like The Quadratic Formula where you just plug variables im

[acoustic moss]

the quadratic formula is relatively easy to derive

just have to complete the square

[rough sapphire]

Same with the cubic

Just complete the cube

[floral apex]

H m m m

[clear plume]

Algebra is just easy (almost always)

[floral apex]

I wonder if I'm feeling the effects of memorization people say happens at school

[inland wolf]

this was more suprising

to me

[rough sapphire]

In school yes, in university no

[floral apex]

Probably if it gets flushed out the moment I left Junior High Hellhole School

[acoustic moss]

i think thats relatively better because its an approximation

better as in easier to believe that it works

[floral apex]

How many people have felt peace ever sicnce social distancing's the norm

[clear plume]

Also, to any gamers here, I have an issue. Basically, my school is making an esports team, and they asked me to tryout. The thing is, so far, the average rank is like 3 below mine, but they offer a slight grade boost to whatever class I choose. The only issue is I also have tryouts for a T3 team in 2 weeks, and I just don't know who to go for

[rough sapphire]

This is cool

[inland wolf]

the fiboncaci one wasnt an approx?

[rough sapphire]

How good is the approximation

[acoustic moss]

nop its exact

[inland wolf]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stirling's_approximation

[inland wolf]

what wtf

[rough sapphire]

Nope, it's exact assuming perfect floating point accuracy

[floral apex]

Because I've felt more happy overall when most of my time's at home

[inland wolf]

oh

wow

[floral apex]

Compared to Junior High School where I wish the worst of luck

Even learning felt more relaxing

Apart from that one time I rushed Math

The subject I'm supposed to understand

[acoustic moss]

i miss sports

[floral apex]

Covid sucks too

Tbf it does get boring

Unexciting, etc.

[acoustic moss]

programming and pydis have basically kept me alive lol

[floral apex]

And the whole people are suffering for a multitude of reasons caused directly or indirectly by the virus

[acoustic moss]

mm

[rough sapphire]

Ye, day-do-today human interaction has also become harder. It's not too bad on it's own, but over a two year period it's really straining

[clear plume]

Imo the biggest problem was online school

Well, I suppose for some it still is a problem

[rough sapphire]

No online exams here 😦

We have them offline and have to get a test the day before

[thin cloak]

It feels peaceful to me since I avoid people more and less people less conflicts...but more lonely lol

[thin cloak]

Very true...miss social gatherings and conferences

[thin cloak]

Much of the interactions are now online like here lol

[last mantle]

🫂

[floral apex]

Python kept me occupied

Now it's web dev

[shut ermine]

well yes I've been stuck in paperwork limbo for a while and nothing seems worth it anymore just keep doing some papers and more keep coming out, getting nowhere and I'm not sure how long i can do this lol

[floral apex]

Who knows what's next. Game dev? Emulation? Language dev?

If I do language dev, I'll practice with the Lisp family

Though probably would benefit me to learn other languages to absorb what parts I like about them

Hmmm, what if SCREAMING_CASE implicitly treats a variable as constant

And prefixing methods with underscores would implicitly make the method private

An implicit behavior more consistent than Javascript's types

[radiant cosmos]

somebody should open the issue on pylint or pep8 to rename UPPER_CASE to SCREAMING_CASE

[jovial oriole]

.topic

[median dome]

**If you had $100 bill in your Easter Basket, what would you do with it?**

Suggest more topics here!

[jovial oriole]

invest

and probably go bankrupt

but invest

[bitter mango]

question: is it okay to post tenor gif links in the off topic chats?

like if the gif is related to the current topic, is it okay?

[jovial oriole]

!ot

[royal lake]

Off-topic channel: #ot2-never-nester’s-nightmare

Please read our off-topic etiquette before participating in conversations.

[jovial oriole]

ettiqutte

[solemn leaf]

never gonna happen smh

that will be sooooo implicit

[harsh tundra]

My PyCharm already screams at me when I'm importing ElementTree as ET

[floral apex]

I was talking about in the context of creating a statically typed scripting language

Not like additions to Python itself

[ancient dune]

https://tenor.com/view/discord-feedback-bot-developers-discord-bots-gif-22885379

[tardy rain]

Efficient

And ISO compliant

[carmine niche]

can someon ehelp..

there is no such "family group"

i own my account outright and am not part of any group

this happens whenever i try to sign in on the xbox website

not even go to settins just.. sign in

[mild abyss]

idk much about xbox :((

[hushed shadow]

function fibonacci(num)
{
    var num1=0;
    var num2=1;
    var sum;
    var i=0;
    for (i = 0; i < num; i++) 
    {
        sum=num1+num2;
        num1=num2;
        num2=sum;
        return num2; 
    }

}

Could someone explain me this js code for the fibonacci sequence i found on the internet?

[coarse dock]

Looks like an 80s' programmer's arcane crap

[acoustic moss]

that's not very helpful

[acoustic moss]

in the fibonacci sequence you add the current two terms to get the next one

[coarse dock]

I am familiar

This code just isn't very verbose

[acoustic moss]

so this code maintains that num1 and num2 are the last two numbers in the sequence
then the next number is num1 + num2, which is sum

then it needs to update num1 and num2 before the next iteration

num1 becomes what was previously num2 (last becomes second to last)
and num2 becomes sum (current becomes last)

[hushed shadow]

ik I'm so sorry I'm a beginner js scripter so I got this as hw, sorry :C

[hushed shadow]

could u retype it and make it more readable and short?

if u think it is verbose

[coarse dock]

Not now, I'm on phone rn

But maybe in morning

[hushed shadow]

pls remember :)

[coarse dock]

I'll try

[hushed shadow]

and ping me also if u remember

[coarse dock]

Yeah

[hushed shadow]

tysm

[hushed shadow]

I actually removed few of the useless lines now this is my code:

function fibonacci(num)
{
    var num1=0;
    var num2=1;
    for (i = 0; i < num; i++) 
    {
        sum=num1+num2;
        num1=num2;
        num2=sum;
        console.log(num2)
    }

}

Better?

Or can I make it more shorter?

[acoustic moss]

just because you can doesnt mean you should :P

[hushed shadow]

but dragonlord said that its bad because its long

[coarse dock]

Yeah that actually looks good

[coarse dock]

Not that it's long, actually that is short

Comments explaining why you did what you did would be helpful

[hushed shadow]

let me do that

[wraith hound]

I believe it's JS convention to put opening braces on the same line as the preceding expression

[acoustic moss]

they said

isn't very verbose

[hushed shadow]

mhm but tysm for helping me

[dire siren]

i have given up using android studio, kivy is much easier. im not sure if this decision is correct

someone punch me in the face if i'm wrong

[hushed shadow]

//In This Line we declared a function named fibonacci
function fibonacci(num)
{
    //Here we created 2 variables with num1 is 0 and num2 is 1
    let num1=0;
    let num2=1;

    //So now we created a for loop so that the code can keep on going till it stops
    for (i = 0; i < num; i++) 
    {
        //Here we made it so that the sum is num1 + num2
        sum=num1+num2;
        //here we made it so that num1 = num2 & num2= sum so that it will run till we call it with the num
        // E.G. num1 = 0 and num2 = 1 so with the below code num1 = 1 and num2 = 0+1 = 1 so later in thsi code this will display
        num1=num2;
        num2=sum;
        //As I told in the above e.g. we will display it in the console bye logging it(num2) and it will keep on going
        console.log(num2)
    }

}

I am bad at explaining but did my best!

[coarse dock]

Oh yeah that's good

Especially with really simple stuff like this is easy to get lost sometimes, thanks

[hushed shadow]

:)

[mossy mango]

hello

@broken apex

[broken apex]

hi

Can I stop xorg from using VRAM?

[mossy mango]

is the find still running?

hit ctrl+C , it can be started again

[broken apex]

yes

[mossy mango]

let's see if that was impacting somehow

[broken apex]

it's at like 10,000 I'd prefer to wait 🤣

[mossy mango]

can you run it from a non-graphical session? 🤔

[broken apex]

unless it can go much faster somehow

[broken apex]

no

[mossy mango]

10,000 have been converted?

[broken apex]

yep

[mossy mango]

are you low on VRAM?

[broken apex]

not for that

[mossy mango]

idk what VRAM is really

[broken apex]

I just need it to be a bit higher for something else

[broken apex]

VideoRAM

[mossy mango]

hmm

[broken apex]

GPU memory

that isn't using any

[mossy mango]

any browser open?

[broken apex]

xorg is using a lot though

[broken apex]

yes, but I stopped it from using vram

[mossy mango]

well

[broken apex]

+-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+
| NVIDIA-SMI 510.39.01    Driver Version: 510.39.01    CUDA Version: 11.6     |
|-------------------------------+----------------------+----------------------+
| GPU  Name        Persistence-M| Bus-Id        Disp.A | Volatile Uncorr. ECC |
| Fan  Temp  Perf  Pwr:Usage/Cap|         Memory-Usage | GPU-Util  Compute M. |
|                               |                      |               MIG M. |
|===============================+======================+======================|
|   0  NVIDIA GeForce ...  Off  | 00000000:01:00.0  On |                  N/A |
|  0%   43C    P0    56W / 200W |    567MiB /  8192MiB |      4%      Default |
|                               |                      |                  N/A |
+-------------------------------+----------------------+----------------------+
                                                                               
+-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+
| Processes:                                                                  |
|  GPU   GI   CI        PID   Type   Process name                  GPU Memory |
|        ID   ID                                                   Usage      |
|=============================================================================|
|    0   N/A  N/A     13679      G   /usr/lib/xorg/Xorg                466MiB |
|    0   N/A  N/A     13829      G   /usr/bin/gnome-shell               92MiB |
|    0   N/A  N/A     97714      G   ...2/usr/lib/firefox/firefox        2MiB |
+-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+```

oh

terrible

well, my screen may just be too small

[mossy mango]

pidof xorg | xargs -n1 pstree

[broken apex]

13,000 converted

[mossy mango]

what does that show

everything shown will get killed

[royal lake]

Hey @broken apex!

You either uploaded a .txt file or entered a message that was too long. Please use our paste bin instead.

[broken apex]

really?

😡

useless

https://paste.pythondiscord.com/figuvidaho.less

[mossy mango]

wait

just try pidof xorg

[broken apex]

probably bad then

[mossy mango]

might need sudo ?

[broken apex]

nothing

[mossy mango]

ok then

that didnt work

[broken apex]

I have the process id, if that's what it does

[mossy mango]

it showed all lol

yrs

pstree #

[broken apex]

13679 right now

[latent scaffold]

nvidia-smi \🤔

[broken apex]

Xorg───{Xorg}

[latent scaffold]

Are you on a hybrid computer?

[broken apex]

no?

[latent scaffold]

If you're not, then there's probably nothing you can do

[broken apex]

what's that?

[latent scaffold]

literally just having two graphics cards

whether the primary one is meant to be integrated or not

[broken apex]

it has an IGPU enabled from the BIOS

[latent scaffold]

some laptops have an iGPU and a dGPU

[broken apex]

not a laptop

[latent scaffold]

do you have an iGPU and dGPU?

[broken apex]

yes

dGPU?

[latent scaffold]

i = integrated
d = dedicated

integrated is built into the CPU

[broken apex]

oh, yes, both

[latent scaffold]

dedicated would be your NVIDIA card

[broken apex]

it's even enabled in BIOS

[latent scaffold]

so then you need to mess with NVIDIA prime, probably

[broken apex]

which was the previous problem

[broken apex]

how?

[latent scaffold]

or it depends on your BIOS

you might still be only running one GPU

[mossy mango]

COLUMNS=4096 pstree --show-pids --thread-names --uid-changes --show-parents --long #

gives me a lot more info

[latent scaffold]

Xorg on nvidia-smi would mean that your "primary" GPU is your dGPU

and offloading would go to the iGPU

chances are... you want the opposite

[broken apex]

systemd(1)───gdm3(13260)───gdm-session-wor(13664)───gdm-x-session(13677,eliso)───Xorg(13679)───{InputThread}(13682)

[latent scaffold]

the process will vary somewhat depending on the distro you're using

[broken apex]

ubuntu

[mossy mango]

huh

what's the worst that can happen

[broken apex]

20,000 images done

[latent scaffold]

does Ubuntu have nvidia-prime?

the package

[broken apex]

yes

installed it with apt

[latent scaffold]

so then you should be able to do like sudo prime-select intel

[broken apex]

loading

[latent scaffold]

or there's subcommands I think

but you want to select "intel", I believe

or actually

[broken apex]

it says done, no affect

[mossy mango]

how many images do you have btw

[broken apex]

30,000 (to convert)

[latent scaffold]

You've installed nvidia-prime? Open the "NVIDIA X Server Settings" and go to "PRIME Profiles"

[broken apex]

how do I open that?

[latent scaffold]

like any other desktop app

or run the nvidia-xsettings (I think) command

[rough sapphire]

Do I need help? (Ignore the theme)

[mossy mango]

what the

[rough sapphire]

qwq

[broken apex]

but I don't know where it is

[rough sapphire]

Tell me. Do you think I need help?

[broken apex]

doesn't exist

[latent scaffold]

wdym? like your app menu

[broken apex]

it's not there

[mossy mango]

idk, how did that get there

[latent scaffold]

uh...

[rough sapphire]

XD

[mossy mango]

lol

you have photos as background in vscode?

[broken apex]

If you want your code to do anything at all

[broken apex]

I have grey as my background in VS code 🤣

[mossy mango]

Probably

[latent scaffold]

welp. I'm sure we can use prime-select still

[mossy mango]

me too 🎉

[latent scaffold]

you have to reboot or relog

idk how often relogging works but I don't think it often does for me

so I just reboot

[broken apex]

okay

[mossy mango]

log out and back in?

[latent scaffold]

that should work

[mossy mango]

that what it is?

[latent scaffold]

or it's supposed to

[rough sapphire]

I do

[latent scaffold]

relog = log out and back in, yes

[rough sapphire]

Why code not work :((

[latent scaffold]

Idk how often that actually works, though. I just reboot anyways

[mossy mango]

what traceback

[rough sapphire]

?

What is traceback

[mossy mango]

And you're in ot uk

[broken apex]

you need to follow syntax rules for it to work 🤣

[rough sapphire]

oo ok

[rough sapphire]

ignore the explorer. I'm a student 🤓

[mossy mango]

also packages should just be one word without exclamation points lol

you have dynamic wallpaper?

never seen that

right-click "super app code.py" -> Delete

fixed

[rough sapphire]

I just use GlassIt-VSC

It makes it transparent so you can see my wallpaper

[mossy mango]

ohh

[rough sapphire]

If you want :)

[broken apex]

will it work if plugged in to the GPU port?

[latent scaffold]

wdym by that

[broken apex]

the HDMI cord

[mossy mango]

is it done yet @broken apex

[rough sapphire]

@mossy mango I know your weight

[mossy mango]

oh cool

what is it

[broken apex]

no

[latent scaffold]

no you have to reinit your session

[rough sapphire]

52345827452738239542358326528390567283572308562386572386 kg

[broken apex]

29,000

[latent scaffold]

so that means killing X

and restarting it

[rough sapphire]

I hope this won't come under spamming

[broken apex]

will the screen still turn on

[latent scaffold]

uh..

if you relog, probably not

if you reboot... depends on the screen

[broken apex]

in what way?

finished the images

[mossy mango]

how'd you reach this conclusion? 🤔

[broken apex]

now I just need to fix xorg

[rough sapphire]

I'm standing outside your house and I got a sneak peak from your window

[mossy mango]

I live in US so I only weigh in lbs

scale doesnt read kgs

[rough sapphire]

I'll kidnap you then

[mossy mango]

but nice try :p

[rough sapphire]

Ok I'm gonna kidnap you

[latent scaffold]

Xorg's not the problem

[mossy mango]

ok

[rough sapphire]

See outside your window

[broken apex]

yes it is

i mean, unless you consider a bad GPU to be the problem

[mossy mango]

kidnapped

[rough sapphire]

Ok serious question. What is your weight

[latent scaffold]

No, it's your system's configuration. It's using the dGPU as primary

which probably isn't intended

[mossy mango]

138 lbs

[latent scaffold]

you want the iGPU to be primary and offload to the dGPU

[rough sapphire]

oo

[mossy mango]

whats yours

[rough sapphire]

The guy in your pfp. Is it you?

[mossy mango]

yes

[rough sapphire]

42 kg

[rough sapphire]

Scary

Um yes

@mossy mango Say thank you

[mossy mango]

92 lbs

you're small

[rough sapphire]

oo

[rough sapphire]

I'm 14

=,=

[mossy mango]

that's why

lol

[rough sapphire]

What's your age kid

[mossy mango]

34

[rough sapphire]

really?

Ok so

You're an old man?

You have white hair? qwq

[broken apex]

how do I fix the configuration?

[mossy mango]

no because

you called me kid

[rough sapphire]

because...?

[mossy mango]

some people will be bummed out if you speak to them like this, just fyi

[rough sapphire]

oo

[mossy mango]

nobody likes to be called old

🤷‍♂️

[broken apex]

little kids do

[rough sapphire]

Understandable

[rough sapphire]

What are you trying to say 😳

[mossy mango]

that little kids wish to be grown-up

[broken apex]

pretty much

[rough sapphire]

oh

I'm a teen

[mossy mango]

and omce they are, they'll wish they could be younger

[rough sapphire]

😎

[mossy mango]

probably

[rough sapphire]

Well

[rough sapphire]

You took 30sec to type that?

[broken apex]

no

[rough sapphire]

Alr

qwq

I'll leak your address

[broken apex]

It took "30 seconds" for discord to load, I have horrible internet and am on a really bad computer right now

[rough sapphire]

Oh

[mossy mango]

are you going to do some more coding?

[rough sapphire]

who you asking

[broken apex]

probably you

[rough sapphire]

oh ok

[rough sapphire]

I'm just a programming student not an actual programmer so I don't really have a specific thing to work on

🌚 Sed life

[broken apex]

If you actually know how to program python, you could help with a project I'm working on

[rough sapphire]

Well I hope I wasn't a student

; - ;

It'll take time for me to learn the full language

@mossy mango Why are you taking so long

in typing

[mossy mango]

because I was typing

[rough sapphire]

I'm gonna cry

One question. Do anyone really use Pycharm?

[broken apex]

yes

[mossy mango]

i was going to make a friendly suggestion-- be careful who you say these things to-- some people won't know you're joking and might be legit scared or try to get you in trouble

[rough sapphire]

Oh

[broken apex]

there wouldn't be pycharm if people used it

[rough sapphire]

; - ;

[latent scaffold]

Yes. I use PyCharm Professional

[rough sapphire]

oh

[latent scaffold]

you'll often see some of the staff using it, too

[mossy mango]

is it done yet?

[broken apex]

the images?

[latent scaffold]

I know eivl uses professional, I sometimes see Xith using CLion and stuff

[rough sapphire]

I just asked because maximum of the people use vsc

[mossy mango]

yea its great

[rough sapphire]

Ikr

[broken apex]

#ot1-perplexing-regexing message

now I need to fix xorg

[latent scaffold]

pour souls

[mossy mango]

oh I missed lol

[rough sapphire]

; - ;

[broken apex]

my GPU VERY BARELY has enough VRAM

[latent scaffold]

it is again not really a problem with Xorg

[mossy mango]

was too busy with @rough sapphire

[rough sapphire]

; - ;

[rough sapphire]

qwq

[latent scaffold]

Xorg's just using what the system designated as your primary GPU

[mossy mango]

fake-kidnapping me lol

[rough sapphire]

I will kidnap for real

[latent scaffold]

you can force Xorg to switch things up, though

[rough sapphire]

I forgot "you"

[latent scaffold]

but it's not the root of the problem

sudo prime-select intel; sudo reboot and that should be that

[rough sapphire]

Roots are underground yk

[latent scaffold]

let's not, please

[rough sapphire]

Why are you so serious 🧐

[broken apex]

why aren't you? probably similar but opposite reasons

[rough sapphire]

xd

[broken apex]

yes, but no:

NVIDIA-SMI has failed because it couldn't communicate with the NVIDIA driver. Make sure that the latest NVIDIA driver is installed and running.```

[latent scaffold]

right...

what are the prime-select options again?

[broken apex]

nvcc --version works though

[broken apex]

not sure, it's help description is REALLY bad

[latent scaffold]

do prime-select

it should give you options

[broken apex]

Usage: /usr/bin/prime-select nvidia|intel|on-demand|query

[latent scaffold]

oh, you might want on-demand

so do sudo prime-select on-demand; sudo reboot

[broken apex]

okay

[distant burrow]

fucking hell i love aperture

[broken apex]

that was a bad idea, it broke my computer

[latent scaffold]

huh?

is your PC custom built \🤔

[broken apex]

the screen just shows as light grey

[latent scaffold]

I have a feeling something is a little wonky

that ain't normal at all

[broken apex]

I have 2 SSDs, one is ubuntu, one is windows

[latent scaffold]

that doesn't mean anything to me lol

[broken apex]

both in the computer

so it tries dual boot

[latent scaffold]

and?

If something broke from switching to on-demand, it'd break after you've selected Ubuntu

[broken apex]

that might be the cause

[latent scaffold]

nah

Is your PC custom built?

[broken apex]

no

[latent scaffold]

in that case

[broken apex]

I started ubuntu, but I always have issues with the graphics driver when it starts

[latent scaffold]

I have no idea. When did your screen "show light grey"

like when during the boot process

[broken apex]

after booting

[latent scaffold]

booting what

[broken apex]

ubuntu

[latent scaffold]

So you selected Ubuntu from GRUB

[broken apex]

yes

and it showed a blank but on screen

[latent scaffold]

okay then just boot in safe-graphics mode and undo that

or restart and see if it'll just work

it sounds like you're gonna have to just pick one GPU

either the integrated or the dedicated

[broken apex]

what's safe graphics mode? I've seen it, but what is it?

[latent scaffold]

basically uses backup drivers and should generally work fine enough universally

but they're not terribly good in terms of performance and stuff

so you boot into safe-graphics to fix your issues and then reboot normally so you can actually utilize your GPU correctly

[broken apex]

if it doesn't, that means I need to take my computer apart again, which is incredibly annoying, is there any actual fix to the problem before I try that?

[latent scaffold]

no

[broken apex]

oh

[latent scaffold]

if it was working before, then it'd be the change of on-demand

it sounds like your GPU setup is a bit funky, though

if I had to guess, your BIOS settings might be a little wack

[broken apex]

IGPU or graphics card?

[latent scaffold]

idk tbh

sounds like just both

[broken apex]

I've tried changing so many things, something is definitely wrong, but there's no list of correct options

[latent scaffold]

I'm not sure ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[broken apex]

I looked it up, I don't think prime-select does what you said, it seems to be to turn off the GPU

which may have broken my computer

which is very annoying

[broken apex]

Is this different?
Failed to initialize NVML: Driver/library version mismatch

[latent scaffold]

yeah no

on-demand means both GPUs would be on

but the dGPU goes in some specific mode to use less power iirc

so you "off-load" to the dGPU to only use it for select applications

if you select intel, only your iGPU would be on

if you select nvidia, only your dGPU would be on

[broken apex]

How do I fix the driver?

[latent scaffold]

Google said that rebooting fixes it lmao

How did you install NVIDIA

[broken apex]

normally?

[latent scaffold]

define "normally"

Did you use ubuntu-drivers?

that's the "normal" method

[broken apex]

no

how do I do that?

[latent scaffold]

run ubuntu-drivers

find the driver that's recommended

and sudo apt install it

it should hopefully uninstall whatever driver you had before out of conflict

but Google still seems to suggest that you should reboot

[broken apex]

didn't, restarting my computer is getting annoying

[latent scaffold]

in that case

all I can suggest is reinstalling the drivers

or wait

what happened to the grey screen

Are you in safe-graphics?

[broken apex]

no

I went to advanced and selected default

[latent scaffold]

wat

so prime-select is still on-demand?

[broken apex]

how do I check?

[latent scaffold]

prime-select query

[broken apex]

yep

[latent scaffold]

lol my prime-select is way different

❯ sudo prime-select
[sudo] password for root:

NVIDIA/Intel video card selection for NVIDIA Optimus laptops.

usage: prime-select           nvidia|intel|intel2|amd|offload|unset|get-current|get-boot|offload-set|log-view|log-clean
usage: prime-select boot      nvidia|intel|intel2|amd|offload|last
usage: prime-select next-boot nvidia|intel|intel2|amd|offload|abort
usage: prime-select service   check|disable|restore

nvidia:      use the NVIDIA proprietary driver
intel:       use the Intel card with the "modesetting" driver
intel2:      use the Intel card with the "intel" Open Source driver (xf86-video-intel)
amd:         use the Amd card with the "amd" Open Source driver (xf86-video-amdgpu)
offload      PRIME Render Offload possible with >= 435.xx NVIDIA driver
offload-set  choose which intel driver use in PRIME Render Offload
unset:       disable effects of this script and let Xorg decide what driver to use
get-current: display driver currently configured
log-view:    view logfile
log-clean:   clean logfile
boot:        select default card at boot or set last used
             supports kernel parameter nvidia.prime=intel|intel2|nvidia|amd|offload
next-boot:   select card ONLY for next boot, it not touches your boot preference. abort: restores next boot to default
get-boot:    display default card at boot
service:     disable, check or restore prime-select service.

[broken apex]

the driver installed x server settings

[latent scaffold]

I thought you said you didn't have that

\🤔

[broken apex]

but nvidia-smi didn't work

[latent scaffold]

okay hold on a second

[broken apex]

I just installed the driver

[latent scaffold]

from ubuntu-drivers?

[broken apex]

yes

[latent scaffold]

You'll have to reboot after you install drivers

[broken apex]

oh

of course

finally!

this is slightly better:

+-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+
| NVIDIA-SMI 495.46       Driver Version: 495.46       CUDA Version: 11.5     |
|-------------------------------+----------------------+----------------------+
| GPU  Name        Persistence-M| Bus-Id        Disp.A | Volatile Uncorr. ECC |
| Fan  Temp  Perf  Pwr:Usage/Cap|         Memory-Usage | GPU-Util  Compute M. |
|                               |                      |               MIG M. |
|===============================+======================+======================|
|   0  NVIDIA GeForce ...  Off  | 00000000:01:00.0  On |                  N/A |
|  0%   36C    P3    32W / 200W |    303MiB /  7948MiB |      0%      Default |
|                               |                      |                  N/A |
+-------------------------------+----------------------+----------------------+
                                                                               
+-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+
| Processes:                                                                  |
|  GPU   GI   CI        PID   Type   Process name                  GPU Memory |
|        ID   ID                                                   Usage      |
|=============================================================================|
|    0   N/A  N/A      2125      G   /usr/lib/xorg/Xorg                175MiB |
|    0   N/A  N/A      2258      G   /usr/bin/gnome-shell              126MiB |
+-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+```

but still not off

[latent scaffold]

oh boy.

check prime-select query real quick

does it say on-demand still?

[broken apex]

yes

[latent scaffold]

okay then idk what to suggest

I have a feeling there's a BIOS setting somewhere

[broken apex]

nope, it did nothing

[latent scaffold]

idk why your dGPU is the default

that's just weird

maybe check NVIDIA X Settings

[broken apex]

for what?