ot1-perplexing-regexing

[quick ledge]

well, !shush is an actual command- but it does something else

[thick osprey]

Extreme. But I like your commitment

[quick ledge]

!hep hush

!help hush

[royal lake]

Command Help

!silence [duration_or_channel] [duration=10] [kick=False]
Can also use: hush

*Silence the current channel for duration minutes or forever.

Duration is capped at 15 minutes, passing forever makes the silence indefinite.
Indefinitely silenced channels get added to a notifier which posts notices every 15 minutes from the start.

Passing a voice channel will attempt to move members out of the channel and back to force sync permissions.
If kick is True, members will not be added back to the voice channel, and members will be unable to rejoin.*

[quick ledge]

it's hush...

[dire siren]

!shush @dire siren

:(

mod command

[urban fog]

Hi people, im looking for some help on how to initialise arrays as a local variable inside of mips
i know how to make them as global variables but a bit confused as to how to make them local variables

[spare lance]

mate just muted himself for demo.. very nice

[uneven pine]

Now I don't like Epic as a company, but why can't Steam be as nice as the EGC?

https://i.imgur.com/zB1E92d.png

[narrow zinc]

My max. Downloading speed ever was 13MB/s😑

[last mantle]

yeah

[uneven pine]

https://www.speedtest.net/result/11882891939.png

[last mantle]

o

k

[uneven pine]

would be a bit higher download but my roommates and I are both streaming video atm

:p

[spare lance]

what in the world is this speed

[tribal aurora]

holy shit

[inland wolf]

murica

[uneven pine]

it's google fiber

[inland wolf]

yea

very nice

[uneven pine]

when google is your isp

you can do whatever you want

they actually offer 2Gbit now

but none of our hardware supports it

except the rackmount server lol

[spare lance]

that speed is like 100+ times of what speed i get here from my isp 😔

but idek what will i do of so much speed

[tribal aurora]

https://tenor.com/view/hopeless-disappointed-ryan-reynolds-facepalm-embarrassed-gif-5436796

[stark oasis]

I find that there is a very small number of things that my Internet speed can't do and I have no where close to that.

Maybe gaming with people on the other side of the world?

I think i would be more interested in... no downtime ever for any moment than more speed.

[twin charm]

loll

[ebon plinth]

chose digitalocean.... this is what I get

not that I mind... just find that interesting

[tribal aurora]

https://tenor.com/view/clapping-leonardo-dicaprio-leo-dicaprio-gif-10584134

[rain pebble]

What's the specs of that thing you're getting?

[dire siren]

still bsod-ing

:(

kinda sad that other application works except for games

[frozen coral]

What did I do this time

[dire siren]

this: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/463035241142026251/876306263288455198/Screenshot_20210814-134116.png

probably

[frozen coral]

That was just yesterday

[opaque bronze]

holy shit thats 1 gbps

[rough sapphire]

hey, i need to make my chatbot in python to do basic math calculations. how can i ?

[dire siren]

eval but note that the user can enter code and make your bot die

!e print(eval("1+1"))

[royal lake]

@dire siren :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.

2

[dire siren]

works

but don't make user input it you'll have troubles

[frozen coral]

Oh lol, I called @crisp shell a non-helper

[rough sapphire]

you dont understand

[frozen coral]

[opaque bronze]

!e ```py
eval("while True: import('os').fork()")

[royal lake]

@opaque bronze :x: Your eval job has completed with return code 1.

001 | Traceback (most recent call last):
002 |   File "<string>", line 1, in <module>
003 |   File "<string>", line 1
004 |     while True: __import__('os').fork()
005 |     ^
006 | SyntaxError: invalid syntax

[opaque bronze]

bro

wtf

[dire siren]

you might want to go to #ot2-never-nester’s-nightmare this ot is occupied lol

[opaque bronze]

forgot to exec inside eval 😔

[frozen coral]

Eval can only evaluate a single expression

You'll need exec

Lol yea

[last mantle]

lol

[opaque bronze]

ye

[frozen coral]

The command should really be !exec

[crisp shell]

😥

[opaque bronze]

!e eval("exec('while True: __import__('os').fork()')")

[royal lake]

@opaque bronze :x: Your eval job has completed with return code 1.

001 | Traceback (most recent call last):
002 |   File "<string>", line 1, in <module>
003 |   File "<string>", line 1
004 |     exec('while True: __import__('os').fork()')
005 |                                   ^
006 | SyntaxError: invalid syntax

[dire siren]

The command should really be !execute

[opaque bronze]

DUUUUDE

forgot to escape the quotes

😔

[dire siren]

yep

[opaque bronze]

!e eval("exec('while True: __import__(\'os\').fork()')")

[royal lake]

@opaque bronze :x: Your eval job has completed with return code 1.

001 | Traceback (most recent call last):
002 |   File "<string>", line 1, in <module>
003 |   File "<string>", line 1
004 |     exec('while True: __import__('os').fork()')
005 |                                   ^
006 | SyntaxError: invalid syntax

[acoustic moss]

rip

[opaque bronze]

rip

[frozen coral]

You're still using eval

Wait

[acoustic moss]

also like

[frozen coral]

What

[dire siren]

!e exec('while True: import("os").fork()')

[acoustic moss]

thats a fork bomb

[opaque bronze]

you can exec inside eval

[royal lake]

@dire siren :x: Your eval job has completed with return code 1.

001 | Traceback (most recent call last):
002 |   File "<string>", line 1, in <module>
003 | Traceback (most recent call last):
004 | Traceback (most recent call last):
005 |   File "<string>", line 1, in <module>
006 |   File "<string>", line 1, in <module>
007 |   File "<string>", line 1, in <module>
008 | BlockingIOError: [Errno 11] Resource temporarily unavailable
009 |   File "<string>", line 1, in <module>
010 |   File "<string>", line 1, in <module>
011 | BlockingIOError: [Errno 11] Resource temporarily unavailable
... (truncated - too many lines)

Full output: https://paste.pythondiscord.com/fixezaveqe.txt?noredirect

[frozen coral]

Eval and exec

Lol

[dire siren]

wtf

[opaque bronze]

now do it inside eval

[dire siren]

why

[opaque bronze]

its a fork bomb

[opaque bronze]

thats the challenge duh

[dire siren]

!e eval("""exec('while True: import("os").fork()')""")

[royal lake]

@dire siren :x: Your eval job has completed with return code 1.

001 | Traceback (most recent call last):
002 |   File "<string>", line 1, in <module>
003 |   File "<string>", line 1, in <module>
004 |   File "<string>", line 1
005 |     while True: import("os").fork()
006 |                       ^
007 | SyntaxError: invalid syntax

[dire siren]

ok

[acoustic moss]

!e eval("[__import__('os').fork() for _ in iter(int, 1)]")

[frozen coral]

The error is because you're trying to Eval an error as python code

[last mantle]

lol

[royal lake]

@acoustic moss :x: Your eval job has completed with return code 1.

001 | Traceback (most recent call last):
002 | Traceback (most recent call last):
003 |   File "<string>", line 1, in <module>
004 |   File "<string>", line 1, in <module>
005 |   File "<string>", line 1, in <module>
006 |   File "<string>", line 1, in <module>
007 |   File "<string>", line 1, in <listcomp>
008 |   File "<string>", line 1, in <listcomp>
009 | BlockingIOError: [Errno 11] Resource temporarily unavailable
010 | BlockingIOError: [Errno 11] Resource temporarily unavailable
011 | Traceback (most recent call last):
... (truncated - too many lines)

Full output: https://paste.pythondiscord.com/epumekumob.txt?noredirect

[acoustic moss]

ez

[dire siren]

the error is because i'm trying to eval none

[opaque bronze]

hsp

you did

it

[acoustic moss]

elu

[dire siren]

because the exec returns none

[dire siren]

he didn't eval the exec tho

wat's the actual challenge

[opaque bronze]

!e eval('exec("r = \"Joe Mama\"; print(r)")')

[royal lake]

@opaque bronze :x: Your eval job has completed with return code 1.

001 | Traceback (most recent call last):
002 |   File "<string>", line 1, in <module>
003 |   File "<string>", line 1
004 |     exec("r = "Joe Mama"; print(r)")
005 |                ^
006 | SyntaxError: invalid syntax

[opaque bronze]

i give up

how do you do quotes inside quotes again?

[dire siren]

what.

[opaque bronze]

!e "string \"s\""

[royal lake]

@opaque bronze :warning: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.

[No output]

[dire siren]

backslash

[opaque bronze]

it works wtf

ok

i know know how to do ths

[dire siren]

!e print(exec("print('like exec is returning nothing anyways (or None) why are you trying to eval an exec')"))

[opaque bronze]

!e eval(None)

[royal lake]

@opaque bronze :x: Your eval job has completed with return code 1.

001 | Traceback (most recent call last):
002 |   File "<string>", line 1, in <module>
003 | TypeError: eval() arg 1 must be a string, bytes or code object

[opaque bronze]

that doesn't matter, the fork bomb works

[royal lake]

@dire siren :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.

001 | like exec is returning nothing anyways (or None) why are you trying to eval an exec
002 | None

[opaque bronze]

thats the matter

!e ```py
eval("exec('import os; while True: os.fork()')")

[royal lake]

@opaque bronze :x: Your eval job has completed with return code 1.

001 | Traceback (most recent call last):
002 |   File "<string>", line 1, in <module>
003 |   File "<string>", line 1, in <module>
004 |   File "<string>", line 1
005 |     import os; while True: os.fork()
006 |                ^
007 | SyntaxError: invalid syntax

[opaque bronze]

wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooot

what is the error bro

oh

i didn't know that

actually thats not true

[dire siren]

!e
eval("exec('import os;[os.fork() for _ in range(1,1000000000000000000000000000000000)]')")

[royal lake]

@dire siren :x: Your eval job has completed with return code 1.

001 | Traceback (most recent call last):
002 |   File "<string>", line 1, in <module>
003 | Traceback (most recent call last):
004 |   File "<string>", line 1, in <module>
005 |   File "<string>", line 1, in <module>
006 |   File "<string>", line 1, in <module>
007 |   File "<string>", line 1, in <listcomp>
008 | BlockingIOError: [Errno 11] Resource temporarily unavailable
009 |   File "<string>", line 1, in <module>
010 |   File "<string>", line 1, in <module>
011 |   File "<string>", line 1, in <listcomp>
... (truncated - too many lines)

Full output: https://paste.pythondiscord.com/simelozoto.txt?noredirect

[dire siren]

ez

[opaque bronze]

how does it work for u

huh

i tried

so many fricking times

all to end with

a sytntax error

why

!e ```py
eval("""exec('f = lambda: exec("try: f(); except: f()"); f()')""")

i will

[royal lake]

@opaque bronze :x: Your eval job has completed with return code 1.

001 | Traceback (most recent call last):
002 |   File "<string>", line 1, in <module>
003 |   File "<string>", line 1, in <module>
004 |   File "<string>", line 1, in <module>
005 |   File "<string>", line 1, in <lambda>
006 |   File "<string>", line 1
007 |     try: f(); except: f()
008 |               ^
009 | SyntaxError: invalid syntax

[opaque bronze]

i give up

[dire siren]

lol

best repo ever: https://github.com/theonion/fartscroll.js

i like that

[eager trout]

You guys need to drink water

I'm suffering right now because I didn't do that lol

Giving birth

[dire siren]

oops i cloned that repo to my mug and it's farting rn

when i drink water

[stark oasis]

nice

is it worth cloning?

[dire siren]

you can put this on your web and make fart noises as the user scroll

very funny

i guess you can do this on april fool days

[stark oasis]

I like to make ridiculous sites sometimes. Like the kind you wound find in the 90s.

So I'll remember that.

[runic wigeon]

chris the betrayer haha funny

[woeful cipher]

lmao chris the betrayer

[violet roost]

the cdn mentioned in that repo is down

so you'll need to grab it from github cdn or host it yourself

[rough sapphire]

hello

my pants are on fire and it's raining

[inland wolf]

damn

have u tried removing the pants

[rough sapphire]

I've been trying to stop the rain

or fire + rain = no fire

but no luck

RIP pants

lol fart noises as you scroll, genius

*several farting sounds

teacher, I need extra time on the test

I have a medical condition.. I fart whenever I scroll

[rough sapphire]

💀

[fringe fog]

hi

[lunar shore]

Guys is Golang fine? Is it really worth learning it?

not for getting jobs, just saying

[eager trout]

yo this would actually work

[lunar shore]

lmao

except , mirror reflects light and since you aren't emitting light with your face , you won't see it lol

[opaque bronze]

this actually happends in real life

say some alien is away 65 million light years away from earth

when they see the earth, they'll see dinosaurs not us

[eager trout]

damn

No wonder they haven't come here yet

[opaque bronze]

because light they see originated 65 million years ago

[eager trout]

I mean, if they do decide to quantum drive here, that would be nice

[spare lance]

got reflected*

[opaque bronze]

in fact the sun you're seeing now is delayed by 8 minutes

even if the sun was destroyed this very instant, it will take 8 minutes for it to affect you

[eager trout]

cool

[opaque bronze]

we just don't notice this "delay" on our scales

[eager trout]

so if a solar flare happened in space, we would be able to predict it 8 minutes before it hit?

[spare lance]

but you wont know that sun got destroyed.. so technically for you its just that instant

[opaque bronze]

no, you'd see it after 8 minutes of it really hapening

[opaque bronze]

exactly

there's a delay due to limitation in the speed of light

there's nothing you can do about it

[viscid hemlock]

But light bounces from your face

[opaque bronze]

its similar to a live sports match, whatever happens on that match reaches your tv after a delay of 2-3 minutes

[spare lance]

iirc quantum pairing or sumn was a thing right?

[opaque bronze]

thats a different thing

[spare lance]

yeah but its pretty rough rn.. with better pairing its actually possible to reduce the delay of data transmission right?

[twin charm]

got me really thinking

[opaque bronze]

it's impossible to transmit information faster than light

[last mantle]

unless

[twin charm]

why?

[opaque bronze]

thats a law of nature...

[last mantle]

cuz the rest mass of photons is 0

[spare lance]

ah hmm well yeah

right

[twin charm]

oh

[last mantle]

the universe itself is expanding at a speed faster than light right?

[last mantle]

wheez

[spare lance]

naw rick earth community cooler

[kind flame]

fair enough

[twin charm]

loll

[lunar shore]

Right

[lunar shore]

lmao

[twin charm]

.bm

[lunar shore]

Hm I wonder, if someone is travelling with the speed of light, and I see it with a telescope, would he/she age as the distance between us reduces?

[tardy rain]

You cant see something travelling at the speed of light because of dilation

[versed flint]

You would not be able to see him at all, I guess. To see him, you need light to hit me and get back to you, but since he his traveling at the speed of light, he will arrive at you at the same time as his image.

[lunar shore]

ahhhhhh

[kind flame]

reddit makes me happy

[opaque bronze]

lmoa

[inland wolf]

lol

[eager trout]

lol

[hollow forum]

Lauginng my organs away

[solid pollen]

!warn @kind flame Do not send unrelated memes in this server, especially inproppriate ones. Please re-read our off-topic etiquette (https://pythondiscord.com/pages/guides/pydis-guides/off-topic-etiquette/) and our #code-of-conduct.

[royal lake]

:incoming_envelope: :ok_hand: applied warning to @kind flame.

[hollow forum]

its off topic....

[solid pollen]

It doesn't matter, please read the etiquette I just posted

Off-topic is not a meme dump

[twin charm]

maybe the light wont even reach you? That someone is travelling faster than the light they're producing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=436i_cTdtVo

reminds me of this

[lunar shore]

ye right

[twin charm]

I wonder if that goes for aircrafts too, when its travelling at Mach speed.

[solid pollen]

Huh, that sounds like an interesting video

I don't think it will work since one is an constant force while the other is a one time propulsion

But under the right circumstances it could just fall to the ground

[hybrid pivot]

no like actually prevent sending messages

ive made one

:D

[tardy rain]

It will just drop

Mythbusters did this already

[lunar shore]

!mute prevents people from sending message. like they can't even type in the chat box

[hybrid pivot]

oh damn

i made one that can mute anyone including the server owner LMAO

mute is a loose tern

it deletes messages tbh

[lunar shore]

lol . So the one you made just deletes the messages they send

yeah

[hybrid pivot]

still powerful ✊

until the bot is kicked

[lunar shore]

The only problem with that is, if the server that your bot is hosted on is weak, then boom

[tardy rain]

How can you mute the server owner

[hybrid pivot]

delete messages

it still shows up on snipe and dyno logs

anything that can detect a message delete

[rough sapphire]

Is there a good source for the math behind center align. So basically I want to do it with pixels and not strings!

[tribal aurora]

ye

[hybrid pivot]

best command

[spare lance]

this be nice

[rugged echo]

woohoo

today is the first time i've ever used a classmethod in a metaclass

gotta use that sweet mcls

speaking of which, do y'all prefer mcls or mcs as the first pos param?

[lunar shore]

Cool

[ebon plinth]

gonna use this channel as #web-development is occupied

for my django web app... well, website built with Django

won't have many visitors to start

is the pre selected one good?

[lunar shore]

What do you mean by "many visitors"

[ebon plinth]

good question,

in its early stage, it'll probably get like 0-500

to me, that is ehh

[wraith hound]

It's not a bad idea to go with the cheapest plan

Since you can always scale up

[ebon plinth]

true

yeah, I went cheapest

[vapid nymph]

finally just set my docs up on rtfd

I mean they aren't on the default branch yet but they are on rtfd so

[vapid nymph]

Docs are still very much in beta:
https://discord-modmail.rtfd.io/

[uneven pine]

https://i.imgur.com/S4NfGcW.png

First python install since windows 11 install 😂

straight to the release candidate

because I require pattern matching for this to work well

[remote citrus]

where did you get this version?

oh pre-release, ok

[uneven pine]

mhm

hahaha this code is so hilarious

it's a prototype proof of concept I wrote a while ago and I'm just now getting to looking at it to see how I'd implement it...rationally

def spell(*commands: dict[str, str]) -> int:
    script = "".join(f"{_get_os_cmd(cmd)}\n" for cmd in commands)
    return _run_cmd(script)

well it sure is arcane

[acoustic moss]

🤔

commands being a dict doesnt make a lot of sense here does it

[inland wolf]

probbly a tuple of dicts

[acoustic moss]

oh right

[uneven pine]

hold up

mind you this is the proof of concept prototype and by no means indicative of a final product or even a pre-alpha;

[uneven pine]

@inland wolf

## Import the features
from spells import *

## Define commands
echo = {
    "win32": [
        "rem Starting build",
        "rem awooing",
        "rem uwu"
    ],
    "linux": "# starting build",
    "darwin": "$linux"
}

venv = {
    "win32": "if not exist .venv ( python -m venv .venv )",
    "linux": 'if [ ! -d ".venv" ]; then python3 -m venv .venv; fi',
    "darwin": "$linux"
}

activate = {
    "win32": r".venv\scripts\activate",
    "linux": ". .venv/bin/activate",
    "darwin": "$linux"
}

install = {
    "$all": "python -m pip install cutesnowflakes"
}

## Run a single command
result = os_cmd(echo)

if result != 0:
    print(result)
## Make a spell from commands
result = spell(echo, venv, activate, install)

if result != 0:
    print(result)

there's a lot of hackery going on under the hood to get stuff to work, for the most part it's likely going to have to stay that way, the benefit is that it actually works

[inland wolf]

interesting

[acoustic moss]

hmm

[hybrid pivot]

vs code's being bad D:

[inland wolf]

no

[spare lance]

this OT is superior

why is ot0 used more

[solemn leaf]

First

Priority

[spare lance]

yes but no

[solemn leaf]

Or more precisely 0th priority

[dire siren]

second piority

oh.are the three red dudes owners

[spare lance]

is there some language in which indexing starts at 1

not 0

[solemn leaf]

Yes

[acoustic moss]

julia

[solemn leaf]

AWK, COBOL, Fortran, R, Julia, Lua, MATLAB, Smalltalk, Wolfram Language — In all of these languages the default index of the first element in an array is one

[dire siren]

english

[spare lance]

thanks

[spare lance]

ah damn

[last mantle]

eww

[latent scaffold]

um... I accidentally slept for 11 hours

[inland wolf]

nice

[latent scaffold]

I went to take a nap at 2PM cause I was tired like all morning

God I feel awful now

how on Earth did I manage

[stark oasis]

I did something like that today except I didn't sleep as long. But I slept all afternoon and for me its now 2am and its feels like noon already to me

[edgy crest]

sleeping for long in afternoon is the worst for me

because if i sleep too long in the afternoon (more than an hour), i cant bring myself to sleep in the night quickly

[stark oasis]

I end up just not sleeping, and then the next day Im a zombie.

[dire siren]

um... I accidentally unslept for 2 hours

[inland wolf]

that means ur body needed it

[latent scaffold]

yikes D:

[dire siren]

does this mean my body needs it? doctor @inland wolf

[opaque bronze]

imagine sleeping lmao cringe

[latent scaffold]

now idk what to do because I really don't want to go back to sleep

[opaque bronze]

real men stay awake forever

[latent scaffold]

and I definitely don't want to stay up

cause I have stuff to do tomorrow

[inland wolf]

what does unsleep mean

[dire siren]

I took a nap at 2AM cause i was not tired like all day

[dire siren]

idk i can't sleep last night

[stark oasis]

unsleep is similar to undead. You sleep but you're not really asleep. Like drug induced sleep. Or amphetamine. Maybe.

[languid marlin]

wait there are algebra indicators in the emojis?

oh

[solemn leaf]

Ikr

That's why I don't sleep in the afternoons

Ez

[dire siren]

am i abusing functions. like i'm using it to store variables
code:

require.config({ paths: { 'vs': 'monaco-editor/dev/vs' }});
function monaco_editor(){
    function setup() {
        monaco_editor.editor = monaco.editor.create(document.getElementById('container'), {
            value: "",
            language: 'python',
            readOnly: false,
            theme: "vs",
            automaticLayout: true
        });
    };
    setup()

    function edit_value(val){
        monaco_editor.editor.setValue(val)
    }
    monaco_editor.edit_value = edit_value
}
window.onresize = function (){
    monaco_editor.editor.layout();
}
require(['vs/editor/editor.main'], monaco_editor);

expect shitcode. i barely know anything about javascript

[latent scaffold]

All JavaScript is shitcode \😩

[dire siren]

correct: *expect shitcode, it's javascript

should i shorten my code to make the program more light weight. or it gets compiled to the same shit so i need to go for another way

it's c# btw

[rough sapphire]

have you read sicp?

[mint torrent]

Just a small message from my side.
Today, I was trying to write up a small program which when written in a pygame while loop, could generate random 2D terrain, much like the Super Mario games.

But this code ended up hanging my laptop, nothing was responding, the mouse, the keyboard.
So, I finally hard reset the laptop.

I am wondering what would happen if someone runs this code in a discord channel?

[dire siren]

what is sicp

[rough sapphire]

a book

structure and interpretation of computer programs

[dire siren]

never read it.

[rough sapphire]

its about functional programming, i thought of it cause you were saying about abusing functions to store values

[dire siren]

is it free? because i'm poor

[rough sapphire]

does anyone know about ciacdo 3301 - libra primus?

yep

the book is free and also the university lectures

it was the main book for comp sci 101 during the 80s in MIT

[dire siren]

nice i'll have a look.

[rough sapphire]

its eye opening if you come from a more java world

[dire siren]

found it here: https://mitpress.mit.edu/sites/default/files/sicp/full-text/book/book.html

[rough sapphire]

let me give you 1 point of advise

the first 2 chapters have very mathematical exercises which discourage most people

the exercises are that way cause most people who studied comp sci in those years were math people

but those two chapters are actually very basic in terms of programming concepts

i just say this cause some people get stuck when the exercise asks you to prove fibonnaci

[barren rune]

wait whats that with ciacdo?

[dire siren]

i think he's talking about that cicada thing idk

[rough sapphire]

whats the cicada thing?

[dire siren]

idk a hoax probably\

[rough sapphire]

oh

cicada is still a thing?

that was like 2012 stuff

[dire siren]

yes. an insect

https://tenor.com/view/cigale-insect-le-sud-chaleur-ete-gif-12159627

this

[barren rune]

fibonci ciacdo doesnt make sense thats why

wait didnt knew that

[timid frigate]

you don't need to press them

[royal lake]

@wild oak Please don't try to ping @everyone or @here. Your message has been removed. If you believe this was a mistake, please let staff know!

[wild oak]

Is anyone here from or in Afghanistan rn?

[wild oak]

👍

[boreal hare]

why do i keep getting this
while it should be like this

[wild oak]

ig type only python

not python3

maybe?

[boreal hare]

okay wait

[wild oak]

or see to it that you have the latest python installed

did it work?

[boreal hare]

python3 is the latest

[wild oak]

did you try this

[boreal hare]

ill try it now

[wild oak]

does it work?

[gilded mulch]

someone tell me why it feels more real when i dream than when i am awake?

[rough sapphire]

yeah i can, read descartes discourse on method

[meager egret]

@gilded mulch is muted lol

[safe lagoon]

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4569816/

👀

[spare lance]

thats what i meant 👀

sheesh did i mistype

my bad then

[rugged echo]

How does it-
How does it stop the ping? If it deletes the message wouldn't there still be a ghost ping?

[latent scaffold]

it doesn't ping to begin with, but I figure they're deleted because they're typically scam messages

[rugged echo]

Is that w3s

[latent scaffold]

or generally obstructive messages, anyways

[dire siren]

yep

i don't go w3s for python tho

[rugged echo]

Everyone and here don't ping?

[latent scaffold]

yeah, they don't

they're disabled for us

[dire siren]

copying html css snippets in w3s is quite nice

[rugged echo]

Then how is it still possible to trigger the bot?

If we don't have permissions on everyone

[twin charm]

I'll resend a message from an admin discussing this

[latent scaffold]

you can "ping" @everyone but it doesn't actually... ping

like it shows up as a ping but you don't get pinged

like it doesn't highlight yellow or anything

it just has that... @latent scaffold color

y'know?

[twin charm]

#ot0-psvm’s-eternal-disapproval message

[rugged echo]

Huh

That is very interesting

[quick ledge]

what's with trying to ping everyone

you know we delete them

[rugged echo]

I guess discord doesn't have enough time to react

[acoustic moss]

it wouldn't ping even if the bot did nothing

[rugged echo]

Yep, sorry, I'm just really confused

[acoustic moss]

members don't have the perms

[quick ledge]

you don't have the permissions to mention @ everyone

[twin charm]

we're discussing the rationale behind deleting attempted everyone pings even though its disabled for the laymen.

[quick ledge]

it's actually quite useful to detect spam

[rugged echo]

So why does discord still allow it as a mention, even when it does nothing?

[quick ledge]

because
Discord.

[rugged echo]

Lmao

Okay, got it, thanks vivek

[latent scaffold]

it's not actually a mention, though

[acoustic moss]

yeah it just looks like one

[latent scaffold]

I say that and get two mentions

[rugged echo]

Yeah

[rugged echo]

LMFAO SO TRUE

[last mantle]

js?

[near bolt]

yeah

[dire siren]

if someone is looking for a challenge: https://github.com/aphkyle/aphkyle/blob/main/Hello.World

wish someone looks

and see if they can decrypt it

dm me if you are stuck. ill be gone for an hour starting from now

if anyone is doing this challenge react the 👀 emoji on this message

[tribal aurora]

lol

[twin charm]

you got me for a second there.

[odd sluice]

damn you

i did not read that message

until after i decrypted it

[dire siren]

what message

[dire siren]

sure how did it go

[odd sluice]

-_-

[dire siren]

ok

[twin charm]

why is this even in the python downloads section?

[tardy rain]

john cleese was part of the monty python crew

graham chapman too

[wraith hound]

that's uhh

where's that from

and what does it have to do with python

[twin charm]

python.org/downloads/

3.9.6 download section

[wraith hound]

ok

[dire pine]

my code is checkmating me
i love life

[uneven pine]

I love seeing people get confused at that stuff

[uneven pine]

If you know, you know.
You can tell by the way that it is.

[wheat lynx]

"and now for something completely different" is a monty python catchphrase, you see it quite often in posts on the announcement mailing lists, like https://mail.python.org/archives/list/[e-mail]/thread/LK3JXTWJ2D6JP6NBLFA44SLQOOLNHEV3/

In theoretical physics, quantum chromodynamics (QCD) is the theory of the
strong interaction between quarks and gluons, the fundamental particles
that make up composite hadrons such as the proton, neutron, and pion. The
QCD analog of electric charge is a property called color. Gluons are the
force carrier of the theory, just as photons are for the electromagnetic
force in quantum electrodynamics. There are three kinds of charge in QCD
(as opposed to one in quantum electrodynamics or QED) that are usually
referred to as "color charge" by loose analogy to the three kinds of color
(red, green and blue) perceived by humans. Other than this nomenclature,
the quantum parameter "color" is completely unrelated to the everyday,
familiar phenomenon of color.

it's nice to see (apart from the misspelling of colour )

[latent scaffold]

I don't see any misspelling of color

[uneven pine]

Colour is just color with carbonation

[latent scaffold]

Col our \🥴

[uneven pine]

I read color as normal

But colour the same way as velour

[latent scaffold]

hahaha me too

[harsh tundra]

Americans just hate "u" :P

[olive hazel]

there's 3 owners right?

[wraith hound]

Yes

[rough sapphire]

sublime text 4, zig, terminus ttf font.

[tardy rain]

Thats too much italics

[uneven pine]

all fair if you like that

but that is ugly as hell and a horrific font imho

[rough sapphire]

yeah not a fan of the italics i think that has something to do with the zig text highlighting

[uneven pine]

idk what zig is

looks like Rust if they were more inpsired by C

[rough sapphire]

its a programming lang inspired by c

[uneven pine]

actually there's like some java mixed in there too

union of C/Rust/Java

[rough sapphire]

tat opinion wasnt really humble

[uneven pine]

lol

[rough sapphire]

oh i guess that also means honest

[uneven pine]

in the end it's just what I think of it

[rough sapphire]

dont know why this syntax .{char} instead of just char in the print function

but i imagine it has some meaning just need to learn

[uneven pine]

it's definitely funky

[rough sapphire]

how did you get c from it? i understand rust with the types and pub fn.

[uneven pine]

const std = @import("std"); is like a java-inspired version of using namespace std;
The function signatures scream rust, but even rust is based/inspired from C in that regard, just in a different order.
pub fn main() anyerror!void {} is a bit off the wall, but in the end it's just a void main() with some extra syntactic sugar

the rest of pretty spicy tho

[gritty zinc]

zig is supposed to be a bit more hardware-oriented

like, it's got fun stuff like explicitly compile-time-evaluated code and easy switching based on what platform you're currently compiling for

[wraith hound]

the syntax of const std = @import("std"); reminds me of const package = require("package");

I suppose it's the concept of assigning imports to variables

[wheat lynx]

Lol that's a good one. Also hey

[acoustic moss]

[thick osprey]

👀 I did a thing

[acoustic moss]

what is this thing that you have done

[thick osprey]

https://pypi.org/project/softboiled/

[edgy crest]

you softboiled yourself??

[thick osprey]

Yes, and dataclasses while I was at it.

[acoustic moss]

oo neat

[thick osprey]

Still some things to tweak, but it's holding up on my initial trial runs. Makes creating my models super nice.

[acoustic moss]

an option for default values would be great

[thick osprey]

Yeah. That shouldn't be too hard to do either

dataclasses.fields() probably has the info needed. Just need to make a check for it before filling it in with None

[acoustic moss]

interesting

[thick osprey]

It's been fun. I started not using a decorator because I though "oh, a decorator sounds complex as heck". Turns out the entire decorator piece is about 10 lines of code

[acoustic moss]

damn

[thick osprey]

Scrubbing the data, that was a little shuffle joy. And, as you saw, still work to do. Side-projects rock

[dire siren]

i wonder who is eivl's twin

[edgy crest]

they are behind a veil

[odd sluice]

godo

[solemn leaf]

eivil

[eager trout]

yo wtf

[low chasm]

Otn came true

[tribal aurora]

Lol yea it came true

Python communities are magician, they know what will happen in the future exactly..

[edgy crest]

interesting

discord borked

[tribal aurora]

Senjan doing python tests prolly lol

mine is fine too

lol

it's a glitch or something

[solid pollen]

Are you more hardware oriented @mortal ferry ?

[spare lance]

the way akarys frames stuff always confuses me

[solid pollen]

That's the goal, sir, that's the goal

[spare lance]

congratulations on doing a marvelous job of achieving your targets

@solid pollen this be some top class horse shit.. when i shut down.. and then start after some time the uptime doesnt get reset... but when i restart my computer.. voila it sets the uptime back to 0 😕

[solid pollen]

huh

[spare lance]

uh relating to the convo yday on joe's server

[solid pollen]

yeah, gotcha

[spare lance]

time hunt down why it is doing this with me

[solid acorn]

are there channels in the server where i can ask about other programming language ??

[acoustic moss]

do a 360 turn and you'll be there

[solid acorn]

pardon ??

[acoustic moss]

you can talk about other langs in these offtopic channels

[dire siren]

wow thank you i got back to the same spot

[acoustic moss]

np

[spare lance]

da fuk is this?

[inland wolf]

pretty self explanatory

[spare lance]

well hmm yeah nvm

[fervent tree]

I saw a bus whose door was opened

Amazing

[acoustic moss]

impossible

[spare lance]

amazing.. now close it

[fervent tree]

It is racing towards me

Lol

A big truck blocked my sight wow

I think Python is the easiest way to learn programming

So similar with our language

[solemn leaf]

what a connection

\👏

🚌 ------ 🛑 ⌚

guido waiting for bus

[edgy crest]

shouldnt that pole be vertical

[dire siren]

seems like cobol is the most lovedhated language. time to use it to code a discord bot

because i got nothing to do

nvm too hard bye

cobol's syntax is f-ed up

[graceful basin]

@spare lanceI believe you asked me about command timings in powershell some time back, randomly found something that can do it. this can be used to get the time the last command took
(Get-History -Count 1).Duration.TotalMilliseconds

[spare lance]

ah well damn yes i did ask you.. also prettyy cool

[spare lance]

.bm

[inland wolf]

this is only for the current session tho right?

if i start a new powershell it wont show anything when i run gethistory

[dire siren]

how do i get this menu strip thingy on web

on html*

[spare lance]

a division? and a horizontal table with buttons?

[dire siren]

ignore

found out i have to code it myself

😔

wait vscode plugins uses typescript correct?

typescript = javascript (but not really)
that means i can just do that pyshit thing on vscode

[spare lance]

it souldnt be that bad tho.. the basic one atleast i mean... the one where you click button it gives prompt

[inland wolf]

probably flex or grid

[dire siren]

and found out i got bunch of html templates 😈

nop

but this one does https://code.visualstudio.com/api/get-started/your-first-extension

no

making myself an ide is more challenging

depends on my laziness

i mean why not

i still have ~1/4 of my summer holiday

and most likely it'll continue online class

sad

[spare lance]

relate

[edgy crest]

sheesh tfw "gl" makes me think of opengl at first thought...

[spare lance]

sounds like weirdass christmas present

[stark oasis]

Looks like I wasn't the only person this happened to

[acoustic moss]

yeah happened to me too

[rough sapphire]

can someone help me with visual studio

???

[harsh tundra]

Seems like this debug profile is not set properly. Use different profile, reinstall whatever made this profile, or just check where executable to debug is located and fix the settings manually

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/20563691/c-sharp-debug-cannot-start-debugging-because-the-debug-target-is-missing this is similar but with broken path set, rather than path not set at all

[silent mantle]

hello, i would like some help with something non-python related

[harsh tundra]

Don't ask to ask, just ask. :)

[silent mantle]

i am curious if there is like a site or an app to download a video from any site

[acoustic moss]

netflix and amazon wouldnt be too happy with such apps

[rough sapphire]

we call it telegram tho😔

but yeah not exactly from any site

[oblique raven]

There're many sites to do so and ways to make your own tool like that but... it's kinda illegal to download videos.

Youtube has a way to download videos in python, and that's not really considered illegal considering well, it's public to everyone and free to use

But for netflix and hulu stuff, highly recommend to avoid it / trying to

Plus all the programs you use for it are 99.9% likely to be malware or an ad-virus

[silent mantle]

so, the thing is

it's a video on a pirate site

so i am trying to pirate from the pirate

[oblique raven]

So you're trying to commit a crime while already committing a crime

very smart idea

[silent mantle]

well i just want the sound from the video tbh

[oblique raven]

why would you want the sound from the video..?

[silent mantle]

it has a lot of the quotes of a specific character

and i am trying to create an ai voice

but i want his voice

[oblique raven]

just search for quotes from him?

them*

[silent mantle]

well,this video has every quote almost

[oblique raven]

You're not pirating a youtube video

[silent mantle]

so the sample size will be big

[oblique raven]

you really can't pirate youtube

you can get copyright violations but

that's not piracy

which is why you should go down the path of using youtube 🙂

[silent mantle]

it's a much much longer route and takes way more effort, and i have kind of already started on it

but it's hard

well, searching them and finding them is one thing, removing the background noise so that only the voice audio remains is another

[oblique raven]

The route you're trying to take is gonna be even more difficult because you need software to download the videos, and probably get your PC infested with ads, not to mention you're committing a double crime

While searching on youtube takes about 20 mins at most to find all the vids and you download it with a python module

then from there you just put the mp4 files into the ai

it may let you download them as mp3 files

[silent mantle]

can i dm you @oblique raven

and maybe even call you with some screensharing ?

[oblique raven]

No

I don't have time for calls or nothyin

nothin*

[silent mantle]

alright

[rough sapphire]

@rough sapphire

but, it can cause problems if u use and download softwares from internet

ya ,but i cant bear the dragging caused by windows lagging

i just shifted to linux 2 days ago

[rough sapphire]

i cant help u

i have tweaked my win

works like charm

this is sublime on 2gb ram

[rough sapphire]

what u did

this is chorme(with discord, google classroom, open- total 3 tabs ,2 extensions)

+idle

+groove music + explorer

@rough sapphire

oo this is preety nice

yes, i have total 5 gb ram

2gb- main, and 3 gb virtual (page file)

oo

do u want help?

ya

ur cpu?

u mean processor

yes

it's name

Intel© Core™2 Duo CPU E4700 @ 2.60GHz × 2

[rough sapphire]

mine is i3 2330m

but nm

do u have windows installed?

no linux but actually there are the chances of shifting since wifi my wifi card not working on linux

[rough sapphire]

u would need windows, cause u will have to use tweaks

try*

are u talking about debloating windows

with a script

[rough sapphire]

not with script

i still have cortana

what i did is some registry tricks
which would increase the MEMORY related stuff more often

may i show u the video?

i had used chris titus tech`s script to debloat windows

[rough sapphire]

ya

may i dm?

sure

[acoustic moss]

In [38]: win32gui.GetWindowRect(win32gui.GetForegroundWindow())
Out[38]: (-8, -8, 1374, 736)

how the fuck is a screen coordinate in negatives???

[latent scaffold]

I think 0, 0 is the center

[acoustic moss]

🤔

that would be extremely inconsistent

nah im pretty sure this is from top left

eh i can work with this

adding a +8 is a small compromise for being able to work in windows terminal

[harsh tundra]

Maybe your window was moved outside screen?

[acoustic moss]

its a maximised window

[harsh tundra]

Is it kind of full screen maximisation?

[acoustic moss]

yeah

[harsh tundra]

I'd say y would be for "missing" top bar but this looks just maximised, not "borderless window" pseudo-fullscreen

[acoustic moss]

hmmm

[harsh tundra]

I'm installing pywin32 in venv, will test it in a moment

[harsh tundra]

any fullscreen app gets +-8 on all sides. I have 1920x1080 monitor - I get (-8, -8, 1928, 1048*) for different fullscreen windows as well

*task bar starts at 1040, checked with desktop screenshot in paint, lol

[acoustic moss]

ohhh

i see, thanks

[harsh tundra]

I did time.sleep chained with this get rect and get foreground to get to another window in the meantime

[spare lance]

and the other -8 be for?

[harsh tundra]

all sides are -8/+8

min x and min y are -8, max y and max y get working area +8

btw, minimised screen is:

>>> win32gui.GetWindowRect(w)
(-32000, -32000, -31801, -31966)

[uneven pine]

wait wait wait wait

WAIT

You mean to tell me that when you minimize a window, it actually just teleports it to the void?

😂

[harsh tundra]

it seems so, lol

at least according to win32gui

[uneven pine]

how have I been a windows developer for a decade and not known that

seems obvious in retrospect

[harsh tundra]

btw, half-screen snipping doesn't add/deduct 8
it's (0, 0, 960, 1040) and (960, 0, 1920, 1040) for me

[uneven pine]

this explains so much weirdness

[latent scaffold]

lmao what the heck

[acoustic moss]

lmao

[spare lance]

what in the god damn cinnamon toast fuck

[odd sluice]

[spare lance]

they literally saying shit just went down into your cpu from yo screen

[rough sapphire]

This program is kidding me 0,00% compress rate lol

[harsh tundra]

this means your pdf file cannot be compressed further, it's kinda straightforward

[rough sapphire]

the program offers multiple algorithms and it worked before, so the one algorithm chose can't compress it further

Or because it's evaluation copy

[last mantle]

desktop reveal

[rough sapphire]

there is a pdf-mafia including shitty demos, general inaccessibly, 50MB upload limits and paid plans

Adobe Pro version is sooo good but I don't need to handle Pdfs that often to buy a plan

[uneven pine]

I just thought of something regarding this

What would happen if you have a monitor larger than those coordinates

Theoretically

Wonder if those are hard coded

And the window would just... Be there

[harsh tundra]

It would be hard. Let's start with the fact that those are negative coords

And 32k is large number

[uneven pine]

Oh yeah I'm dumb

Didn't even notice negative

[harsh tundra]

I wonder how it shows for multiple monitors

Is main screen considered 0,0? Then negatives are possible if primary screen is on the right and other stuff is on left

[uneven pine]

Hmm

Good question

[acoustic moss]

fascinating

id think that the left most gets the (0, 0) but idk

[harsh tundra]

But what if right screen top is higher than left screen's top?

I'll need to check it

[floral remnant]

noice

noice

noice

[wheat lynx]

🧊

[solid pollen]

Hmmmmmmmmm

Ice cube...

Scrolls up, scrolls down, look at channel name

OK why ice cube @wheat lynx?

[tender smelt]

no ice

[thick osprey]

rebel against noice

🧊

[wheat lynx]

[thick osprey]

... weird. That counted for 3 pings for me

[wheat lynx]

Huh

Maybe it's because discord knows a ping from me must be extra important

[thick osprey]

That must be it

I'm seeing 3 reacts on python bot's trashbin react too. Resetting my client as I think this is a "me" thing

That or fate is telling me something about 3

[wheat lynx]

3 pings, 3 reacts on the trashbin, 3 sides on a triangle...

[solid pollen]

Oh

no ice

Okay

Brian isn't large enough

[quick ledge]

It's the SIgn of the Three

I saw that

[solid pollen]

No you didn't

[quick ledge]

who's Brian?

[solid pollen]

Brian my brain

It is now officially his nickname because I do this typo way too often

[thick osprey]

So, from now on I should ask if Brian can come out and play too? Got it.

[quick ledge]

I'm so sleep deprived that I will probably not notice the difference

[solid pollen]

I hope my brain won't come out and play

I have to wake up on 6h and still is a driving hour away from home

We stopped in a shop so my father can get freaking candies I swear

He is the true child

[quick ledge]

lol

alright
time to keep my eyes closed for 8 hours

[solid pollen]

So I will probably be sitting in ot for on hour so I don't feel asleep

Don't leave me vivek

Also don't lie you forgot a 1 before the 8

[quick ledge]

let me go....

[quick ledge]

lmfao

[solid pollen]

I swear you say good morning and good night during the same hour

But good night either way :P

[wheat lynx]

Imma go to sleep too. Bye Akarys 👋

[quick ledge]

timezones are weird

[solid pollen]

Bye !

Plus I'm sure no Indian are awake at that time

Guess I'll have to find American fellows

[wheat lynx]

Here's something to do to keep you awake, count these sheep: 🐑 🐑 🐑 🐑 🐑 🐑 🐑 🐑 🐑 🐑 🐑 🐑

[quick ledge]

mmm, I guess I have the whole country to myself

[solid pollen]

69420

[wheat lynx]

I haven't counted but sounds about right

[quick ledge]

yeah

[frozen coral]

!e print(len("🐑 🐑 🐑 🐑 🐑 🐑 🐑 🐑 🐑 🐑 🐑 🐑"))

yup, seems about right

thanks python

[royal lake]

@frozen coral ✅ Your eval job has completed with return code 0.

​​​ 69420 ​​​

https://tenor.com/view/skillissue-skill-issue-gif-22125481

[solid pollen]

🦉

[viscid hemlock]

Akarys are you escaping the country?! Why are you driving so much

[solid pollen]

lol

IDK

My parents are like "vacations? so we can use our car to go anywhere? let's do this!"

[spice yew]

guys i literally banned my alt from my own server

and i cant unban it

some1 help

there are 3 bans in the server and none of them are my alt

ive sent 3 different invites and reloaded the page and waited a while

but i cant invite my alt back

worlds biggest muppet?

[oblique raven]

if you ban your alt it's on the same IP as you, just use a VPN on your PC I assume your alt and your main is on your PC together, so yea

[fickle dirge]

what is smt you would buy thats 3d printed
i am tring to sell smt on etsy
but idk what to sell / print

[dire siren]

what

[rugged echo]

oMg EmoJI SpAM diSrUptiNg SERvEr
!mute @wheat lynx 96.204c

[thick osprey]

and delivered
https://github.com/Preocts/softboiled/commit/36740f86d68c353c9283697a0a42c3f40188b3c8#diff-3faee74e6e6947fb65ed2cc4a1b127f3f85ca98aaf3f39d1b195fc32940e22cfL74-L76

[eager trout]

holup

wtf

[acoustic moss]

epic

[acoustic moss]

good question

[dire pine]

war

[acoustic moss]

a wa

[thick osprey]

a wa

[odd sluice]

i find this very funny

https://twitter.com/ThisIsTheFatRat/status/1427651444543475712

TheFatRat (@ThisIsTheFatRat)

Always love it when people send around "personalised" emails where they put me in their database as Fat Rat.

Likes

524

Twitter · Aug 17, 2021, 3:20 PM

[odd sluice]

https://tenor.com/view/pacman-gif-21447981

[inland wolf]

does Vivek sleep

[dire siren]

i mean when you send a message like "dead chat" you already make chat alive for 1 nanosecond

[inland wolf]

lol

[dire siren]

any web apps example

[spare lance]

discord?

[dire siren]

ok

[undone yarrow]

@unique elm Nice ban lol.

[dire siren]

what

[twin charm]

what

[sturdy zephyr]

what

[quick ledge]

yes

[inland wolf]

good to know

[last mantle]

do you

search for

vivek?

how tf did you even see that

ah its ot1

nvm

[dire siren]

what

that channel is dormant

and not yours

[austere forum]

@dire siren lol

[dire siren]

👀

[mossy verge]

no it was in the available channels but I missed it so I tried mentioning it here but it was already occupied

[quick ledge]

I see everything.

[harsh tundra]

ot1-aperture’s-fancy-new-system
You mean... GLaDOS? :D

[inland wolf]

lol

[dire siren]

dang node modules are really taking a lot of spaces

[wraith hound]

Node modules is pretty huge, yes

[latent scaffold]

ohhh, that's where aperture's from... I totally forgot what game it was lol

[tribal aurora]

cargo's target files....

[harsh tundra]

Aperture Science
We do what we must
Because
We can

[latent scaffold]

never even played the portal games

I just watched other people play

[harsh tundra]

I player first game but know the lore of 2 and fan-made prequel

[latent scaffold]

I can hardly remember what happened

[harsh tundra]

https://youtu.be/Y6ljFaKRTrI

[wraith hound]

cargo's target dir is much smaller than node_modules

At least target is compressed into a tiny binary.

[tribal aurora]

oh, I thought they're bigger, mb then

[wraith hound]

Err, they may end up being bigger, not sure because I haven't undertaken any really big projects yet

I'm working on one, but I haven't done much with it

Oh you're right that's pretty big, but node_modules can be way bigger because it's not compressed into a binary

[tribal aurora]

That's good to know

[undone crystal]

lol

[rough sapphire]

literally same shit as Python Lib

[dire siren]

node takes more

[rough sapphire]

60MB + for 1 mod

almost 70MB

[wraith hound]

node_modules is just dependencies though

[rough sapphire]

exactly

so i think it's meaningless to bash on it

[wraith hound]

And it can take many gigabytes

[wraith hound]

the way it's managed is suboptimal, that's the problem

[rough sapphire]

if anyone complains about node_modules, they haven't had experience with C++ DLL hell

not to mention reproducability

personally I think node_modules and venc Lib is the way to go

[wraith hound]

I like the way that cargo does it

In Rust

[rough sapphire]

that one is good if you have access to internet on the device you're compiling on

the bad thing is, afaik the .toml for depencencies has to be adjusted manually

instead of a CLI command that'd automatically check for duplicates and such

[wraith hound]

what's wrong with that?

[wraith hound]

True, that would be nice

[rough sapphire]

CLI is just a lot cleaner

[wraith hound]

But the toml solution works fine

[rough sapphire]

I think Gradle/Cargo way of editing dependencies isn't great

CLI is a lot more convenient and safer

i may be biased because i use VS Code

i guess VS would count too

since those tend to have terminal open

[wraith hound]

Having the option of both would be nice

[rough sapphire]

so you dont have to even open the config file

.NET allows for both, XML edit manually or the CLI

best by all means

[dire siren]

my node modules took 3gb

[rough sapphire]

that simply means you need a lot of modules?

that's completely up to you, how many you need

pro tip: if you dont need any dependencies, node_modules will be 0 bytes

😮

[uneven pine]

Bro we been open for 5 minutes and already have a delivery and a carryout

Rip getting prep done

[dire siren]

is typescript just javascript but with types

trying to know if it'll work if i paste javascript code on typescript

[wraith hound]

Yes, it should

[wraith hound]

Yup

Gradual typing

[dire siren]

ah great

ill test if it works for web speech api on javascript tmr

on typescript

[rough sapphire]

Is Linux a better choice than Windows? For programming mainly

[tender smelt]

it doesn't really make a difference, if you're not developing platform specific things

[graceful basin]

if you want to work with ruby or perl, get linux, if you want c#, I would suggest windows just so that you can be compatible with non-.net core runtimes. Python will work great anywhere, as will most other modern languages.

Linux is a tad easier for C as you can use the system package manager for easily installing libraries

[gritty zinc]

there sadly are some C libraries that don't work / are hard to make work on windows

I had that problem with a multiprecision math library (Rust bindings for it, but I doubt it was the bindings' fault). Worked only in Cygwin and only on the -gnu toolchain.

[graceful basin]

Yeah, if you need the gnu system for whatever reason, windows isn't the way to go

[wraith hound]

What about WSL? Does that not work?

[graceful basin]

It does work

It is just quite unwieldy a lot of the time compared to the native system

[timid frigate]

(wsl is a menace)

And Linux is superior for most programming

[graceful basin]

It is still ime nicer than trying to run things with wine, proton or over conventional VMs, but if your primary use case is linux dev, it is better to just have linux

[timid frigate]

just because of the automation capacity

if you're developing at all just use linux to save time

[graceful basin]

Windows task management is really powerful

[timid frigate]

but unwieldy

[graceful basin]

Eh, I quite like GUI personally

Really not a fan of random text file with random format whose errors appear somewhere

[timid frigate]

I am a fan of that

[graceful basin]

But wsl does make dev on windows a lot easier in those few niche cases where you would normally have to do some insanity with msys2/cygwin

And wslg so far seems functional at least.

[plucky grotto]

Windows is good through console and linux also usually has a good gui

[opal atlas]

My dude, here is the thing Bill Gates named it and you have to pay for

I paid and don't have it, I'm on double invisible OS neither, right there

[uneven pine]

I think this is either an AI chatbot on a user account

Or someone having a stroke

[timid frigate]

looks like a skid

or gpt2

@opal atlas opinion?

[wraith hound]

Windows has a good command line interface?

I find Linux's to be much more complete

[timid frigate]

^

[plucky grotto]

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-server/administration/windows-commands/windows-commands

should have most things you need?

also, powershell is even cooler

not to mention that you can get the coreutils on windows I think

[thick osprey]

Everyday I get a little closer to just dropping flake8 from my workflow

[undone yarrow]

guy got banned on the #discord-bots discord.py discord server so i came here to say nice ban.
He was being annoying lol