ot1-perplexing-regexing

[spare lance]

never read em

😔 _ _

[opaque bronze]

rust docs are beautiful

[dire siren]

or you can think of the mozilla javascript docs

[opaque bronze]

a work of art

[dire siren]

real neat

[spare lance]

didnt read that either

[dire siren]

sad 😔

[spare lance]

but for all it matters python docs for ctypes are not neat 😔

[opaque bronze]

python docs generally are not that neat

[spare lance]

well agreed

[dire siren]

ig python is too old and their docs aren't really that good

rust is a bit younger

[spare lance]

mouse and keyboard docs are N E A T

[opaque bronze]

r u s t i s n e a t

[spare lance]

only if all docs were that good

[dire siren]

yep rust is underage

it's a 11-year-old

[opaque bronze]

if we had good docs then the amount of noobs will reduce by 50%

[dire siren]

and python is a grown up man (or woman?) that's 30 yrs old

[opaque bronze]

julia is also underage

[rough sapphire]

julia is going to jail

[opaque bronze]

animal

[rough sapphire]

for being a useless delinquent

[dire siren]

but animal also have gender

[opaque bronze]

python's a good boi

[dire siren]

ok

[opaque bronze]

im going have to summon the hsp army on you

[rough sapphire]

they're also going straight to jail

[spare lance]

python is in general useful for small applications

docs are painful

[inland wolf]

lol

[opaque bronze]

look at our sheer numbers

[rough sapphire]

can fit everyone in one jail cell

[opaque bronze]

no

[dire siren]

*toilet

since hsp is a poop

[spare lance]

or one jar

[rough sapphire]

yes, one toilet in one cell

share the toilet

the toilet empties out to a jar, no indoor plumbing in this jail

[spare lance]

where did relu go.. or he is hsp.jl

[opaque bronze]

import discord

YeetUser
{
    Tron
}

[opaque bronze]

i am hsp.jl relu

[acoustic moss]

no

[inland wolf]

just so u know

[acoustic moss]

you are hsp

[inland wolf]

i dont use julia

[spare lance]

oh

[opaque bronze]

yes lord hsp

[spare lance]

sounds wrong to non programmers 👀

[opaque bronze]

lord hsp uses julia for his benefits

[rough sapphire]

discord is so slow nowadays

[inland wolf]

bruh

[opaque bronze]

its an electron app what do you expect

[spare lance]

never mind moving on

[rough sapphire]

even on web

[spare lance]

chrome has turned laggy >:(

[opaque bronze]

:)

[spare lance]

i cannot open chrome with another app without feeling like moving the cursor through honey

[verbal glen]

https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/13/asia/afghanistan-kandahar-falls-taliban-intl-hnk/index.html

bruh its over

[last mantle]

hmm

[verbal glen]

the us also left a ton of equipment there

which the taliban is using

[inland wolf]

yea

[last mantle]

lol

[rough sapphire]

do you really think they were gonna exit? lmao

the date for exiting set by Trump was months ago, they pushed it back on purpose.. more forever wars, more oil

[verbal glen]

wut

america did leave

[rough sapphire]

this is why I invest in defense stocks. Bloodshed is a guarantee

oh you're not aware of the recent news

let me post, 1 sec

[verbal glen]

thanks

[rough sapphire]

https://taskandpurpose.com/news/us-military-troops-afghanistan-embassy-evacuation/

[last mantle]

lol

[dire siren]

wait what. trump doesn't want oil?

trump is such a weirdo

[verbal glen]

That's just to evacuate people, the bulk of US forces left already

Also I don't think anyone got any oil out of the ground, Afghanistan was a knee jerk reaction to 9/11 that just kept on going

So I heard they also have 1,000 backup troops based in Qatar

[rough sapphire]

he set up US energy independence with keystone pipeline and fracking

also tried to shut down Russia's oil pipeline to EU

but this was bad for oil prices, they just kept dropping

[verbal glen]

So what conflicts are the US involved in right now?

• Evacuation of Afghanistan
• UN Peacekeeping in places like Somalia
• Sending an aircraft carrier whenever Russia is sus to Ukraine and when China is sus to Taiwan
• the usual training stuff

Anything else I'm missing?

[rough sapphire]

I think CN is gonna take over Taiwan in the next 3 years. Notice the tech transfer that's happening through Japan working with TSMC and US too

they'll chew it up like Google chewed up Motorola and boston dynamics and spit it out.

[verbal glen]

Although at the same time, the US has a defense treaty with Taiwan and it might be too costly for China to invade

[dire siren]

what's the gain tho

[dire siren]

although at the same time US army just left afghanistan

[verbal glen]

Lol that's true

Taiwan still has a military big enough to cause a dent in China's pocket

[dire siren]

like they could've protect afghanistan from the invade but instead they left

[verbal glen]

They've been trying for 20 years

[dire siren]

probably happening the same in taiwan. will never know until it happens

if they gave up afghanistan will they give up taiwan. that's the point

[verbal glen]

There aren't any us forces based in Taiwan, and Taiwan is not actively at war

All the US has is a treaty, time will tell if they honour it

America has bases in Japan, Korea, and the Mariana Islands though which are pretty close

[rough sapphire]

China just swallowed up HK

lots of emigrants to UK and US. Plenty of new tax dollars for the UK to eat up

wages in Britain are going to go down, real estate will go up

the colonizers have become the colonized lol

[inland wolf]

lol

[dire siren]

tbh that's going to happen anyway. like HK IS the part of china. isn't it?

[eager trout]

They aren't going to take Africa though

no way I'm letting that happen lol

[inland wolf]

yes bro

u can stop them

[eager trout]

They've been mining illegally

[dire siren]

oh no you found out i'm mining bitcoin illegally

[eager trout]

And it's been polluting our water and destroying our trees

[inland wolf]

damn

[dire siren]

woah that's bad

[inland wolf]

u gotta do something abt that

[dire siren]

how to help

[eager trout]

Lots of gold mines too, but it's legal to mine there I guess

We have so much gold lol

[dire siren]

mine mine

africa = resources

[inland wolf]

yea

[eager trout]

There are some places you can even mine gold from for free

[dire siren]

👀

where

[eager trout]

idk

My Dad just told me about it

Might go there after uni

[inland wolf]

bruh

[verbal glen]

HK was given back to China by the British in 1997

[eager trout]

So glad we got independence early lol

[verbal glen]

The British got it from the opium wars

[sullen condor]

Bring 10kg of gold and you can pay back 1% of your student debt

[verbal glen]

99 year lease

[eager trout]

We're also advancing technologically

[inland wolf]

south africa ri?

[eager trout]

nah

Don't really want to say

But all over west africa

[inland wolf]

dang

[eager trout]

West Africa has tons of ores and minerals but I'm afraid they'll mess up the land

[dire siren]

time to mine dogecoin in west africa

[eager trout]

I'm planning on getting a scholarship

[dire siren]

thanks for the idea. i'll go to west africa and mine ores.

[inland wolf]

lol dogecoin is dead i think

[dire siren]

is it elon that killed doge

[eager trout]

In some US states, you can get scholarships for free by being in the top 10% which is nice

haha that's what happens when billionaires try to get into small cryptos

[fair totem]

Does that apply to international students too tho

[eager trout]

Not sure

I don't think so

probably though

[fair totem]

it would be nice tho i want to study abroad for my masters too

[eager trout]

It's easier if you go to high school in the US

[rough sapphire]

it was democratic for several years

[eager trout]

The system is easy af so you need to do AP subjects and college classes to be recognized properly

[dire siren]

it's 70% the time to end this politics shit

[eager trout]

I'll do College algebra for computer science

Should give me some good credits

[fair totem]

yeah thats a good idea

Anyone know the logo of the server was changed for whatr

[dire siren]

#changelog

[wintry fractal]

this logo is beset for me

[rough sapphire]

? it's economics, no one cares about politics, it's about $$

[dire siren]

ok

[dire siren]

no frogshit :(

[inland wolf]

this is true

[eager trout]

it pays to know how to cook

Eating some good ass tilapia

[rough sapphire]

ass tilapia?

[dire siren]

i think he's saying "good ass" tilapia

not ass tilapia

lol

https://tenor.com/view/fish-gif-9625048

tilapia @rough sapphire

[rough sapphire]

oh😔

[inland wolf]

what the fuck

[eager trout]

yeah I'm eating a tilapia ass right now

[rough sapphire]

i thought he was eating ass tilapia

[inland wolf]

lol

[rough sapphire]

so is it tilapia of shape ass or ass of tilapia?

[eager trout]

wait that came out wrong

I'm eating the tail

[rough sapphire]

tail has ass so it's ass of tilapia

[eager trout]

yes

5 magical points

level 100 item

[rough sapphire]

alright enjoy good ass tilapia

[eager trout]

bruh

[dire siren]

enjoy your good ass tilapia ass

[latent scaffold]

omg my favorite

[inland wolf]

damn

[rough sapphire]

😭

[rough sapphire]

i wanna learn java56

[tardy rain]

Java what

Java 5 and 6 are incredibly old and not even LTS anymore

[rough sapphire]

hello

[dire siren]

hes talking about java 56

[inland wolf]

lol

[tardy rain]

java 56 now supporting top level code

java 56 will run on 4 billion devices

[inland wolf]

lmao

[opaque bronze]

sometimes rustc is just annoying

WHY ARE YOU WARNING ME WHEN I TOLD YOU NOT TO??

bruh

[acoustic moss]

ITS AN UNUSED IMPORT RELU

how could you

[opaque bronze]

im sorry hsp

why is there no good documentation for SSE intrinsics 😫

its a pain

[acoustic moss]

whats sse

[opaque bronze]

some simd shit

do i like a person who knows this?

im a random n00b who wants to learn this 😫

look this

[dire siren]

wtf

[opaque bronze]

how am i supposed to understand

and why are the names _mm_set_ps

[acoustic moss]

lol

[opaque bronze]

atleast my code compiled

[acoustic moss]

orz

[opaque bronze]

god i am so happy i dont program in assembly

imagine those dudes

with instr names like PSVMADD

wtf are these names

[acoustic moss]

Public Static Void Main And Ducks Dying

[opaque bronze]

hmm

thats true

this is creepy as shot

i was typing duck and it automatically showed me this

creepy bro

[acoustic moss]

you do ML and you find this prediction creepy

?????????

[opaque bronze]

i dont do ml lmao

i tried to do ml

[acoustic moss]

thonkery

[opaque bronze]

sad relu noises

[frozen coral]

Thats because when you add a sticker you need to say what unicode emote it relates to

[acoustic moss]

maybe if you used sigmoid instead

[frozen coral]

And I said that one was 🦆

[opaque bronze]

hey no

thats treason

[tranquil orchid]

👀

[opaque bronze]

anyone who uses sigmoid shall be banished from earth

[tranquil orchid]

sigmoid kinda nice though 👀

[opaque bronze]

😠

[acoustic moss]

andyou cant do anything about it

[opaque bronze]

what lang is this btw

[acoustic moss]

hoolia

[opaque bronze]

i see

relu=lambda:(x>0)*x

beat this boi

[acoustic moss]

lambda x:*

[opaque bronze]

sigmoid cannot defeat relu

[acoustic moss]

hm

ok

i dont feel strongly enough about activation functions to argue

[opaque bronze]

yes

[tranquil orchid]

NNFS likes relu

[acoustic moss]

neural networks for sickos

[opaque bronze]

relu good, sigmoid bad

thats all you need to know

[acoustic moss]

is discord lagging for yall

[opaque bronze]

wake up sheeple, the sigmoid people are fooling you

[tranquil orchid]

softmax though 👀

My discords fine atm

[acoustic moss]

prolly my internet

oh i think its fine now

[opaque bronze]

softmax basically has no competitior

its a monopoly

[acoustic moss]

i fixed a mistake in my neural network today

still doesn't work B)

[tranquil orchid]

I feel you 😔

I need to get back to reading nnsf, haven't gotten through much of it lately

[acoustic moss]

maybe i should have followed a proper tutorial instead of what is supposed to be only an introduction to ML

(3b1b's series)

[tranquil orchid]

You're trying to make a net just from that 👀

[acoustic moss]

yeah

[tranquil orchid]

godspeed

[acoustic moss]

no wonder it doesnt work lmao

[opaque bronze]

3b1b's introduction is amaaaaazing

[acoustic moss]

it is

[opaque bronze]

though

i'll recommend starting from linear regression

before directly jumping into neural networks

[edgy crest]

ew thats the boring part of ML

[acoustic moss]

lol

[edgy crest]

its like you can divide ML into nerd and chad

[opaque bronze]

yeah, but atleast you'll be familiar with stuff

[tranquil orchid]

It's the weekend now so I should have some time to get through another few chapters

[acoustic moss]

i didnt know what epoch meant before today

*in the context of ml

[opaque bronze]

imagine starting out with gradient descent and optimizers right before you learn neural netowkrs 👀

[tranquil orchid]

couldn't be me 👀

[opaque bronze]

linear regression would be a gentle introduction to these

[acoustic moss]

dang jack's really living in the future

[opaque bronze]

yeah

jack has been exposed

he's an alien

[acoustic moss]

austr-alien

[tranquil orchid]

School has been beating me down during weekdays, weekends I have some free time

[opaque bronze]

yes

[hushed hare]

hello

[acoustic moss]

hello

[edgy crest]

hello

[acoustic moss]

to take part in this conversation you must first laugh at my joke

[hushed hare]

what joke

[acoustic moss]

.

[hushed hare]

oh god

[edgy crest]

lmaooo

[hushed hare]

AHSHAHD

[edgy crest]

okay we got the pass

[acoustic moss]

yes

[opaque bronze]

i just commited UB in rust

[acoustic moss]

what that

[opaque bronze]

i feel like an evil person

[opaque bronze]

undefined behaviour

[acoustic moss]

unsafe block

?

O

ok

[edgy crest]

am i the one with the wrong priorities to not give any attention to school

[opaque bronze]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Undefined_behavior

[acoustic moss]

hmm

C has plenty of those

[tranquil orchid]

I have courses I want to get into ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[opaque bronze]

union v128f {
    floats: [f32; 4],
    vector: __m128
}

fn main() {
    let v128 = v128f {floats: [1.0, 1.0, 2.0, 4.0]};
    let vector = unsafe {
        v128.vector
    };
}
``` look at this beautiful UB

[edgy crest]

what class

[tranquil orchid]

And I'm competitive by nature

[acoustic moss]

hey it has got an unsafe block

[opaque bronze]

ye

you shouldn't be accessing fields of union like that

its called type punning

[acoustic moss]

UB = Unsafe Block = Undefined Behaviour!?!?

[edgy crest]

whats __m128

[tranquil orchid]

Computer and electrical systems engineering + computer science double degree

[edgy crest]

oh you are in college

[opaque bronze]

its vector

[edgy crest]

school

[tranquil orchid]

No, I'm in highschool

That'll be next year

The course I want to get into

[edgy crest]

oh

[acoustic moss]

same

[opaque bronze]

omg that sounds like a lot of studying

[edgy crest]

o okay

[tranquil orchid]

It's requirements aren't actually that high, I should have no issues

[opaque bronze]

electrical + cs?

[tranquil orchid]

yeh

[opaque bronze]

i'll just take cs next year

i'll probably fail in anything except cs

[tranquil orchid]

I could in theory do a lot less studying, but I am way to competitive to do that, and I still have enough time to learn things I want to learn in my free time

[acoustic moss]

ee and cse are equal in my eyes, my parents say ee is better sooo

[opaque bronze]

eh

ee is defo not same

[acoustic moss]

eh

[opaque bronze]

ee has circuits and shit

ee is harder than cs from what i've heard

[tranquil orchid]

Computer and electrical systems engineering should be a lot of fun, that's an area I'm very interested in

And there's some pretty cool electives in there

[opaque bronze]

cs is definitely super interesting

the only problem is everyone and their mother and their grandmother wants to study cs

[tranquil orchid]

lol

[opaque bronze]

its super competitive in my country

[dire siren]

cs here stands for csharp not computer science

[tranquil orchid]

I don't think it's as popular in Australia

Mostly because it doesn't really seem to be taught at many highschools, so a lot of people just don't know it exists

At least, it's not taught in any highschools in my area

[opaque bronze]

for example, for national level institutes in my country there are 3000 seats in my country for cs but upto 1_000_000 people take the exam

[tranquil orchid]

oh my

[opaque bronze]

thats 1 mil dudes competing for 3000 cs seats

[acoustic moss]

just 60 seats in IIT bombay

for CSE

and 300ish for EE

[opaque bronze]

im talking about all nits + iits + iits

[dire siren]

first try: india

[opaque bronze]

yes

[dire siren]

i have a 70% chance in getting that correct

[acoustic moss]

*for general category

[dire siren]

most people in this server is indian

i'm not

[opaque bronze]

ah yes reservation

i wont start ranting

[acoustic moss]

me neither

[opaque bronze]

i've controlled myself

[edgy crest]

me neither

[acoustic moss]

reservation is a great thing

🍿

[opaque bronze]

bruh

again, i am calm

[dire siren]

cruh

[edgy crest]

[opaque bronze]

peace

[acoustic moss]

hmm

sigmoid > relu

[dire siren]

hello calm. how are you

[opaque bronze]

NOO

[dire siren]

agreed

[opaque bronze]

RELU WILL PREVAIL

[dire siren]

!e print("sigmoid" > "relu")

[royal lake]

@dire siren :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.

True

[acoustic moss]

lol

[edgy crest]

[opaque bronze]

ALL YOU SIGMOID TRAITORS WILL RECEIVE DIVINE JUGDEMENT FROM THEIR CPUS WHICH HAD TO SUFFER CALCULATING SO MANY GODDAMN EXPONENTS

[tranquil orchid]

!e

print("softmax" > "all")

[royal lake]

@tranquil orchid :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.

True

[dire siren]

isn't sigmoid traitor relu?

[acoustic moss]

calculating exponents isnt too bad

[opaque bronze]

!e ```py
print("relu" > "Sigmoid")

[royal lake]

@opaque bronze :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.

True

[edgy crest]

square roots

[dire siren]

cheating

[tranquil orchid]

Anyway, I have free time, and things I want to do in it, cyas

[opaque bronze]

relu is ridonkulously fast to compute

[edgy crest]

bai

[opaque bronze]

by ridonkulous i mean gigaridonkulously fast

[dire siren]

cube root

[acoustic moss]

fair

are you heading down alecs path

[dire siren]

lol look at #esoteric-python i think there's a post on changing python syntax to c's

[acoustic moss]

wish my english teacher thought the same 😔

[dire siren]

when did english became a subject.

[acoustic moss]

idk lol

[opaque bronze]

eww english

i hate english

i hate all languages

[tranquil orchid]

As a native english speaker, english is trash

[opaque bronze]

why do i have to learn mfing poetic device when im going say bruh, lmao, lol all day long

[tranquil orchid]

If you grow up speaking two languages I guess

And immersed in two cultures

[opaque bronze]

i kinda know 4 languages

[dire siren]

ireland

[opaque bronze]

flex

[tranquil orchid]

How many are not programming languages 👀

[opaque bronze]

not for real

many people in my country know 3-4 languages

its not that uncommon

[tranquil orchid]

Fair

[inland wolf]

lol

[tranquil orchid]

I started learning Korean recently

[dire siren]

i know chinese, python, english, lua, c, cpp hahahahahahahaa

[tranquil orchid]

I like their writing system

👀

[opaque bronze]

i know hindi, english and 2 south indian languages

i can't speak hindi tho, i can only understand

that does count as knowing a language?

[tranquil orchid]

nope

yep

Last year

[opaque bronze]

is it joe's birthday today?

[tranquil orchid]

yep

[opaque bronze]

it is

you can go check it out for free

what cpython internals are referring to btw

[tranquil orchid]

Oh yeah I forgot about that book

[opaque bronze]

i see

[tranquil orchid]

It looked pretty nice, may have to check it out at some point

[opaque bronze]

gotta pirate em all

[mellow spire]

if you find it for free let me know, even i am finding it

[opaque bronze]

same

[mellow spire]

can't even find it on pirated sites 😔

[opaque bronze]

highschoolers dont have money ya know

[tranquil orchid]

Is it not common for highschoolers in your country to have a casual job?

It's pretty common here

[acoustic moss]

not really common here

[opaque bronze]

pretty rare i'd say

[tranquil orchid]

Uhhh... 13-18 I guess

You need to be 16+ though

[opaque bronze]

bro

[tranquil orchid]

To get a job

ah

[opaque bronze]

legally you can get a job above 18, but no one's going to give it

[wheat lynx]

I mean, it's not

[mellow spire]

*n india we don't *

i have only seen foreign cou

till 12th i think

after that ppl can do

[opaque bronze]

hmm thats a good idea actually

you can tutor n00bs kids

[last mantle]

usually after 22 years i guess

[opaque bronze]

and not a casual job

[mellow spire]

wich subject? rick

[wheat lynx]

£24.99 from amazon for a print copy, free delivery. Seems like a worthy investment

[low chasm]

Cool

Hi :D

[opaque bronze]

what are standards of the kids you tutor?

[tranquil orchid]

I just get payments via a bank transfer, and then stick most of it in savings

[low chasm]

Whoah

[opaque bronze]

by which i mean, what grade kids

[low chasm]

Rick math genius??

Hm

[mellow spire]

calculusnice, i don't even know calcuclus

[low chasm]

I did algebra 1 in eighth grade

I'm in 9th grade now

[dire siren]

but i guess you could say my maths knowledge is below local minima

[low chasm]

My math knowledge is shit

[opaque bronze]

aboo age reveal

[low chasm]

I'm 14

[opaque bronze]

bruh

[low chasm]

Says in my about :P

[opaque bronze]

oh wait

[tranquil orchid]

Math has been pretty easy this year

[low chasm]

I want to get better at math

[tranquil orchid]

It's more or less the same as last year + a little more

[opaque bronze]

math has been pretty brutal for me 😔

frick telescoping series

[mellow spire]

my physics is good, rest meh

[opaque bronze]

wtf is this scooby doo shit

[low chasm]

Pfft

[dire siren]

bruh go to discord.gg/math

[tranquil orchid]

Something something square

[mellow spire]

i don't even understand

[low chasm]

The fuck is topology

[opaque bronze]

we're a bunch of high schoolers, remember?

[mellow spire]

that

oh god

[opaque bronze]

how tf we supposed to know topolgy

[low chasm]

Triangles

[opaque bronze]

ok, you're pretty advanced

[low chasm]

Perhaps

How the fuck do you abstract a shape

Hm

Perhaps

[opaque bronze]

i like your funny words, magic man

[low chasm]

What the fuck is a cyclic integral

[opaque bronze]

i barely know a surface integral

[low chasm]

Hm

[opaque bronze]

how is it different from a surface integral like you do for gauss' law?

[last mantle]

Gauss law for one

[dire siren]

music symbol

[opaque bronze]

ye

[tranquil orchid]

And we come full circle back to machine learning

[opaque bronze]

gauss law has surface integrals

and ampere's law has line integrals

[low chasm]

Qat

[tranquil orchid]

Machine 👏 learning 👏

[dire siren]

treble clef

[opaque bronze]

euler is that bro

[inland wolf]

you are donut

[opaque bronze]

euler is literally everywhere

[low chasm]

What why

[opaque bronze]

how many holes does a human have

[inland wolf]

^

[low chasm]

Hm

[mellow spire]

bouncer

[low chasm]

The what

Also

I needed to ask a question

What's the benefit of an actor model? How exactly does it work

Wat

He what

[inland wolf]

.bm

[median dome]

Please don't do that.

@west zephyr, please enable your DMs to receive the bookmark.

[tranquil orchid]

lmao "It's not your fault, you barely know any topology" got me

[mellow spire]

who ever tried solving it? i skipped at the first site

lmao

[opaque bronze]

wtf is a supermonad

and i dont even know what a monad is

[edgy crest]

probably male mermaid

monad

[low chasm]

Haskell??

Or math

[acoustic moss]

lmao

[opaque bronze]

yo dawg i heard you like IndentationError

said no single mf in the planet ever

why python?? y u do dis to me

[acoustic moss]

oh thats one of the millenium problems isnt it

B)

[dire siren]

C)

D)

E)

[last mantle]

lol

functional programming moment

[tardy rain]

its just a monoid in the category of endofunctors, whats so hard about that

[last mantle]

ikr

[acoustic moss]

ikr

[rough sapphire]

every day is free comic book day

more like free comic pdf day

i read watchmen a while back

all the other stuff seems really boring

mangas fun

[austere forum]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/829343418843922455/834061852396617769/unknown.png

XD

[eager trout]

funny thing

Cause I got a haircut, my studio headphones fit fully around my ears now

lets see what music sounds like now

[uneven pine]

that would be better for the "This user has blocked you" image 😂

[rough sapphire]

!topic

[royal lake]

Off-topic channels

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Please read our off-topic etiquette before participating in conversations.

[solemn leaf]

ikr

[timid frigate]

Theoretically, what would the consequences of a titanium rabbit travelling at escape velocity parallel to sea level be?

[vapid nymph]

Hey guys, someone here was previously interested in working on modmail with me, and I have a bunch of features we're working on now if anyone would like to help out

Current features in progress are configuration, database client, and event dispatch system. Also working on a discord paginator, help command, and error handler.

[opaque ruin]

lmao the only thing macs do good is final cut pro

why am I replying to a 2 year old message?
i dont know either.

[opaque bronze]

!e ```py
(f := lambda: f)()()()()()

[royal lake]

@opaque bronze :warning: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.

[No output]

[timid frigate]

b u t w h y

a lambda that returns itself

[dire siren]

but why not

!e

import sys
print(sys.argv)

[royal lake]

@dire siren :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.

['-c']

[timid frigate]

that's the entire purpose of #esoteric-python - but why not

[floral apex]

What if a Python script that modifies itself

[olive hazel]

show screenshot

[zealous hull]

the error code is 0x80070005

it always happens while acquiring license

[olive hazel]

i got many microsoft errors before

[zealous hull]

and i cant install any application from microsoft store

[solid pollen]

I like how my phone wants to call this error

[olive hazel]

lol

[zealous hull]

i have no clue why the error even happens

[dire siren]

*calls fix error#1642*

[zealous hull]

theres no explanation

[olive hazel]

screenshot it

[olive hazel]

[zealous hull]

i tried fixing it via microsoft support, troubleshooter, online stuff

nothing works

ive had this issue for 2-3 months

[inland wolf]

is that store?

[zealous hull]

yep

[olive hazel]

yeah

[inland wolf]

why do u need to use the store

[zealous hull]

linux

[olive hazel]

ubuntu

[inland wolf]

u can get it outside of the store

[zealous hull]

i already have the linux subsystem thing

[odd sluice]

winget install Ubuntu-20.04

[olive hazel]

oh yes

in terminal

[odd sluice]

i think that'll work

[zealous hull]

yeah but even if i can

my microsoft store is still broken

[inland wolf]

having a broken store isnt good, yes

[olive hazel]

wait windows 11

[inland wolf]

windows 11?

[olive hazel]

there should be a new ms store

[inland wolf]

there should be

[zealous hull]

the error is so weird

[olive hazel]

i also have many ms store errors

[zealous hull]

and for some reason its only on my account

[odd sluice]

there

[inland wolf]

weird

[odd sluice]

do winget install Ubuntu

[zealous hull]

not recognized

[viscid hemlock]

https://c.tenor.com/Tdf4OicQPikAAAAM/phone-dog-allo-dog.gif

[odd sluice]

winget not recognized?

[zealous hull]

ya

[odd sluice]

you dont have winget lol

[zealous hull]

how do i install it

[odd sluice]

onesec

[inland wolf]

winget might need ms store

if it doesnt ur lucky

[odd sluice]

dont think so but ok

https://github.com/microsoft/winget-cli

[inland wolf]

OH U DONT NEED WINGET

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/wsl/install-manual#downloading-distributions

just use this handy dandy link

[zealous hull]

i have wsl installed

but i need a variant

[inland wolf]

yes i know

the link i sent is for manually installing a distro

now there are some instructions

[zealous hull]

oh im blind

[inland wolf]

once u download the appx

rename it to a zip

extract it to wherever u like

and run the ubuntu.exe

or whatever distro ur using

if u just instal it while its an appx it will install it to ur system drive

if tahts fine then u can skip all my steps

[zealous hull]

oh sick

[odd sluice]

i didn't know this existed nice

[inland wolf]

theres more distros taht arent on that list

arch for example

[zealous hull]

does that exist for other applications too?

[inland wolf]

uh maybe

but it does for these distros

an appx file is just a zip with a bit more metadata

[zealous hull]

now its time to figure out how to use linux

[inland wolf]

it worked?

[zealous hull]

yes

thanks

[inland wolf]

dope!

does running wsl open ubuntu

[latent scaffold]

Searching for software on Ubuntu is utter pain

[zealous hull]

yep

[inland wolf]

nais

[zealous hull]

yea

[latent scaffold]

You have to pray whatever you want is in the official repositories

[odd sluice]

why tf is fedora remix paid*

[inland wolf]

remix?

[latent scaffold]

the heck

[odd sluice]

https://github.com/WhitewaterFoundry/Fedora-Remix-for-WSL/releases

it's f-ing on github

this is scam man

[latent scaffold]

Imagine having to use WSL

[zealous hull]

is there anyway to get a gui?

[odd sluice]

yes

[zealous hull]

or should i learn command line?

[latent scaffold]

um

You'll have to rephrase your question

[inland wolf]

windows 11

[latent scaffold]

GUI of what?

[zealous hull]

gui of linux

holdon

[latent scaffold]

um

[inland wolf]

windows 11 brotha

[zealous hull]

the linux i downloaded is only terminal

[inland wolf]

it will let u gui

but it wont look good

[odd sluice]

see haa gui of linux (the background is windows btw)

[inland wolf]

thats linux

[zealous hull]

yeah

[odd sluice]

it's beta tho

[latent scaffold]

GUI of Linux or GUI of applications in Linux

[odd sluice]

very beta

[inland wolf]

u need a DE if u want a gui

[latent scaffold]

because "GUI of Linux" means a Desktop Environment

[zealous hull]

whats that?

[inland wolf]

true

[latent scaffold]

which I don't thing WSLg has

[inland wolf]

yea it only lets u run apps graphically

[odd sluice]

true

[inland wolf]

ever ran a sudo command and left it for a while then came back and realsied that u didnt enter the password?

[latent scaffold]

Most of what you see is my DE

[zealous hull]

woah

how do i dget that

[inland wolf]

dualboot

[odd sluice]

yadon't

[zealous hull]

damn

[latent scaffold]

Yeah, pretty much

I'm not on Windows

[inland wolf]

as in u need to install linux alongisde windows

[odd sluice]

if you don't switch halfway or completely to linux

[inland wolf]

or u can just throw windows and completely switch to linux

but thats probbly not recommended for beginners

[latent scaffold]

well

Linux isn't really that hard to deal with

just don't get Arch or Gentoo >_>

[odd sluice]

im a beginner at linux ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[zealous hull]

dual boot would be nice

but i have no clue on how to do that

[latent scaffold]

Okay, but like it's not really like that unless you're into sys-admin

[odd sluice]

I learned how to dual boot

[latent scaffold]

I mean nobody goes out and says "I'm a beginner to Windows 10" or "I'm a beginner to macOS"

it's just not like that for everyone

[odd sluice]

on my mom's laptop because I trashed her windows install

[inland wolf]

there are many tutorials online

[latent scaffold]

Linux as a desktop can be incredibly easy to use

[odd sluice]

she uses ubuntu now

[odd sluice]

yes

very yes

but i think i prefer the temrinal

[latent scaffold]

I took my brother off of Xubuntu, though

trying to teach a 10 year old how to install software in all the different ways was just not my thing

so all I did was teach him how to use the OBS

[odd sluice]

you what

[latent scaffold]

which is opi <app> or https://software.opensuse.org/

[odd sluice]

seriously
10y/o?

wow

[latent scaffold]

It's really not that hard

[inland wolf]

lo

[latent scaffold]

you literally just type in what you want with opi or check on the OBS

"The OBS is Google but for software" \😩

[odd sluice]

i remember that linux seemed incredibly intimidating to me

like a couple years ago

when I first tried centos

[zealous hull]

i dont want to trash my laptop

[odd sluice]

and i immediately deleted it

because i was pretty scared

[latent scaffold]

but imagine trying to teach my brother how to add repositories to apt

[odd sluice]

lmao

"deez_nutz"

[latent scaffold]

wot

[odd sluice]

nothing

just contemplating

what kinda names

[zealous hull]

raspbian makes me mad

[odd sluice]

whytho

it's fine for me

[zealous hull]

because installing anything is a pain

[inland wolf]

thats usually unlikely

but it can defintely happen

[latent scaffold]

idk how people can live without the OBS

[inland wolf]

just folow the tutorials instructions carefully

[odd sluice]

I just use a vm ¯_(ツ)_/¯

rarely™️

i use wsl 99.99% of the time

[zealous hull]

i was going to do that but virtualbox is actually so bad

i constantly have screen tearing\

[latent scaffold]

man

I forget y'all don't get access to KVMs on Windows

[inland wolf]

can u get qemu on windows

right

[latent scaffold]

no

[inland wolf]

lolz

[latent scaffold]

KVM is "Kernel-based Virtual Machine"

[odd sluice]

KVMs?

[odd sluice]

ah okay

[latent scaffold]

you don't get that kind of freedom with Windows

[odd sluice]

I definitely understood that

[latent scaffold]

lol

it's a VM that runs deep within the system

[odd sluice]

so not much is required to be virtualized?

[latent scaffold]

or that's how I understood it

Well

it's possible to trick anything into making it think it's a real machine

cause you can "passthrough" your hardware directly to the VM

[zealous hull]

computers are so fascinating

[latent scaffold]

you can trick NVIDIA, even

but that's no longer required these days because new drivers support being virtualized

[odd sluice]

https://tenor.com/view/no-comment-but-yes-dwayne-johnson-gif-10423800

[latent scaffold]

I've got a Windows 10 KVM running for gaming... the only problem is that I have no idea how to tune it

I can actually run Genshin Impact in it at 30~ FPS

but again, I need to do some tinkering

  <cputune>
    <vcpupin vcpu="0" cpuset="4"/>
    <vcpupin vcpu="1" cpuset="5"/>
    <vcpupin vcpu="2" cpuset="6"/>
    <vcpupin vcpu="3" cpuset="7"/>
    <vcpupin vcpu="4" cpuset="8"/>
    <vcpupin vcpu="5" cpuset="9"/>
    <vcpupin vcpu="6" cpuset="10"/>
    <vcpupin vcpu="7" cpuset="11"/>
    <vcpupin vcpu="8" cpuset="12"/>
    <vcpupin vcpu="9" cpuset="13"/>
    <vcpupin vcpu="10" cpuset="14"/>
    <vcpupin vcpu="11" cpuset="15"/>
    <emulatorpin cpuset="0-3"/>
    <iothreadpin iothread="1" cpuset="0-3"/>
  </cputune>

it's shit like this that I don't understand

[solid pollen]

Lmao so cute

[odd sluice]

why is it html

why not literally anything else

[latent scaffold]

That's XML

[odd sluice]

huh

[inland wolf]

lo

[solid pollen]

Why the hell

[odd sluice]

why not JSON

[inland wolf]

extensive markup language

[latent scaffold]

um don't ask me

[solid pollen]

That's probably the worse configuration I saw by far in a while

[latent scaffold]

Ask RedHat

[odd sluice]

as for making it simple™️

why give it up

[latent scaffold]

it's really not that bad

it could be like the X11 config

https://termbin.com/w98g

but this is why I'm glad virt-manager exists, editing the XML is mostly one of those... "advanced users only" type deals

also tbh idk how this would look in any other markup language

probably not that great

[solid pollen]

I mean it could be converted to toml without problem

[odd sluice]

i think i like toml very well

readable

[latent scaffold]

yeah but idk how you'd do toml for something like this without the file becoming really long

[solid pollen]

I mean, how long is the XML ?

[latent scaffold]

Not terribly long

[inland wolf]

it should takew less space than json

[latent scaffold]

https://termbin.com/2q2l

[last mantle]

yeah you can

[inland wolf]

brog

[last mantle]

the android emulator uses it i guess

[last mantle]

you probably do

with hyper-v

[inland wolf]

hyper v on windows 10 pro

[last mantle]

hmm?

afaik WSL 2 runs on hyper v

[inland wolf]

no

[last mantle]

or uses it or whatever

[inland wolf]

it uses the hypervisor

[last mantle]

i see

[inland wolf]

tis one

[latent scaffold]

well

you can get QEMU on Windows

but you can't have a KVM

[last mantle]

yes

[latent scaffold]

cause KVM is a kernel module

[inland wolf]

yes

[twin charm]

hi, does anyone have any idea as to why the icon of the vscode exec just returned to default?

also it starts crashing for no apparent reason.

when its kept idle

but is visible in the file explorer

[drifting sage]

idk about crashing, but I had the icon problem too and restarting the computer worked for me

[twin charm]

I've had this issue for months now (1-3), I think restarting is not a solution 😔

[drifting sage]

Maybe reinstalling VSC?

[twin charm]

that means I have to make changes to the settings again and reinstall all extensions

[odd sluice]

#SyncToGithub

i do it

[twin charm]

wait theres an available update again, I'll download that and see

[odd sluice]

you should do it too

[twin charm]

mm

[drifting sage]

Yes, syncing to github is quite useful

[twin charm]

is that a fancy word for creating a repository for the settings json file?

[odd sluice]

no

[twin charm]

then?

how does it work

[odd sluice]

not sure

click settings -> settings sync

you need to link github or ms acc

[twin charm]

oh right

thankyou I'll check that out

[eager trout]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlcGxjtcr3s

never seen this before

[runic mantle]

🖐️

although I am not tiny

[stiff garden]

Hi guys. Help me please. How can I parse a text file (find specific information). Are there any libraries available? Thanks

[spare lance]

well you can use regex for that

[inland wolf]

depends on how the text is formatted

if its very simple and easy on a computer u can even skip regex and just do some classic string manipulation

[spare lance]

well yeah

[stiff garden]

Thank you

[stiff garden]

Thank you

[spare lance]

simple parsing is always good

[royal lake]

:incoming_envelope: :ok_hand: applied mute to @gaunt quest until <t:1628963871:f> (9 minutes and 59 seconds) (reason: burst rule: sent 10 messages in 10s).

[inland wolf]

bro u burst in the wrong place

[nocturne sundial]

a

[wild yarrow]

b

[thick osprey]

++ Exact match to expected input:

TopLayer(data01='This is all', data02=NestedLayer(data01='Hi', data02=True), data03='Why are you still here', data04=[NestedLayer(data01='Hi', data02=True), NestedLayer(data01='Hi', data02=True), NestedLayer(data01='Hi', data02=True)])

++ Too much data provided at base and inner layers:

TopLayer(data01='This is all', data02=NestedLayer(data01='Hi', data02=True), data03='Why are you still here', data04=[NestedLayer(data01='Hi', data02=True), NestedLayer(data01='Hi', data02=True)])

++ Not enough data provided at base or inner layers:
Type Warning: required key missing, now None 'data02'
Type Warning: required key missing, now None 'data02'
Type Warning: required key missing, now None 'data01'
Type Warning: required key missing, now None 'data02'

TopLayer(data01=None, data02=None, data03=None, data04=[NestedLayer(data01='Hi', data02=None), NestedLayer(data01='Hi', data02=None)])

The code behind it is still ugly, but I've figured out how to create a dataclass from essentially arbitrary input. Drops key/values that aren't expected. Creates key/values as None that are missing (warns if not Optional[]). This should make modeling API responses easier when their schema isn't known to exactness

[wraith granite]

hi

[dire siren]

what did chris do

nvm probably this made him the betrayer

[winter terrace]

im so fucking confused

i do a sql command with sqlite3

nada

i do the same fucking command in the command lne

yep

i dont get it

i just don't

[ebon plinth]

about to pay, nervous as to if I'm spending too much

small website, probably won't get many visitors for a WHILE.

debating between the $15 ($19 with customization) or the $5 plan

[wraith hound]

err, why not just get a VPS for like, $5 a month and host your site there?

[ebon plinth]

I hear PythonAnywhere is great for what I need

well, heard

[wraith hound]

What is it that you need specifically?

What type of site is it?

[ebon plinth]

Personal type site

Combine my interests into one and whatnot

[wraith hound]

Does it use a Python framework?

[ebon plinth]

Yeah, Django

[wraith hound]

Oh, Django?

[ebon plinth]

yeeep

[wraith hound]

It should not be very hard to host that on a vps for a couple dollars a month

[ebon plinth]

was going to go a VPS but after doing research, ended up going to PythonAnywhere

[wraith hound]

You definitely don't need $20, and you get quite a bit of customization over everything

[ebon plinth]

don't those require more (constant) maintenance?

not that I'll mind much (hopefully I'll have enough time)... but ?

[wraith hound]

Not really, you can just set it up once and then let it be

[ebon plinth]

hmm

[wraith hound]

For example, I know a lot of people who set up the server, set up a github action to automatically redeploy when they push to main, leave it be, and everything works just fine

[ebon plinth]

hm

I wonder if something like that will work with a private github

closed-source, sorta.

[wraith hound]

It definitely can

[ebon plinth]

what service do you recommend?

and, good

[wraith hound]

Here's a github action one of my friends used to deploy to digital ocean

name: Deploy to DigitalOcean

on:
  push:
    branches:
      - main

jobs:
  deploy:
    runs-on: ubuntu-latest
    name: Deploy
    steps:
      - name: Check out Repository
        uses: actions/checkout@v2
        
      - name: Pull Changes and Restart Job
        run: |
          mkdir ~/.ssh && touch ~/.ssh/known_hosts && echo ${{ secrets.KNOWN_HOSTS }} >> ~/.ssh/known_hosts
          sshpass -p ${{ secrets.SSHPASS }} ssh -o "StrictHostKeyChecking no" -tt ${{ secrets.SSH }} -t "cd bot && git pull origin main && systemctl restart catbot"

[wraith hound]

i've heard good things about linode and digital ocean

Vultr and hetzner as well

Not sure about the prices of each though

[ebon plinth]

I don't know why, but I like the 'linode' name

yeah, heard of both

was going to go to DO before doing more searches

[uneven pine]

DO and Linode are both great

I have used them both extensively

personal preference is DO but Linode have improved a hell of a lot over the past few years

[ebon plinth]

AHHH

now I'm stuck on those options :/

[uneven pine]

doesn't really matter, they're both equally as good as each other

flip a coin if you have to

it's a bet you cannot lose

[ebon plinth]

maybe, but I might have to sleep on this thought...

does either have view stats?

or do I have to create my own 🤔

[inland wolf]

damn

[opaque bronze]

wot is dis

[inland wolf]

graphics cards

[last mantle]

omw to china

[hybrid pivot]

A COMMND THAT CAN MUTE MODERATORS

[solemn leaf]

damn

that is too much stock to see

lmao

[quick ledge]

!mute can mute moderators

!mute 562601836591185930

[royal lake]

:incoming_envelope: :ok_hand: applied mute to @quick ledge until <t:1629011847:f> (59 minutes and 59 seconds).

[timid frigate]

🅱️ased

[quick ledge]

[timid frigate]

let me try something

!mute 745530441838231662

aw

[quick ledge]

!shush 745530441838231662 🤫

[royal lake]

Applied shush to @timid frigate

[timid frigate]

What does that do to me?

[uneven pine]

tells you to shut up

[quick ledge]

you are now shushed

talking is a punishable offense

[timid frigate]

I apologise. I'll not post in the off-topic channels in future. Should I also leave the server and sew my lips shut?

[thick osprey]

Get shushed on

[quick ledge]

@timid frigate it's not an actual command btw