ot1-perplexing-regexing

[sterile sapphire]

F

[carmine niche]

oh god

[proper dune]

Who cares about Tesla, they're weirdos

[sterile sapphire]

why don't they make it open source?

[strange musk]

hahaha

[sterile sapphire]

bc they want money ig

[strange musk]

its a old project

[proper dune]

MATLAB computer vision actually sucks

[strange musk]

theyve sunk decades of work in it

so they can;t give it free

[strange musk]

yeah, not good for DL but for general stuff its great

I have a pirated version

[proper dune]

MATLAB is unbeatable for:

• signal processing
• image processing (sort of)
• aerospace
• control theory
• robotics (sort of)

I say sort of because there's other options for those but they suck

[carmine niche]

what even is control theory

[proper dune]

https://blog.rag.gy/posts/control

Accurate

[carmine niche]

Control theory is the field of controlling systems to do what you want them to do.
coulda just said that

[strange musk]

Boston Dynamics’ robots (No, they don’t use any Machine Learning!)
I refuse to beleive that

[proper dune]

It's true :p

0 machine learning going on

[twilit shore]

👀

[carmine niche]

you underestimate the intelligence of humans

[proper dune]

Although they're adding machine learning for vision now

[strange musk]

good for them (unless they want to be obsolete)

[carmine niche]

??

[proper dune]

?

[carmine niche]

why on earth would not using ML make them obsolete

[proper dune]

Does not doing machine learning make them obsolete

[graceful basin]

ML isn't a universal solution to every single problem

[carmine niche]

^

[strange musk]

There's a limit to the stuff they can hard-code 🤷 ML can automate a human doing everything just in little time

[carmine niche]

not accurate

[proper dune]

I'll take another ignorant opinion from pydis for 100, Alex

[carmine niche]

^

lmao

[strange musk]

after that, they literally just need to transfer movements from human to the robot

[carmine niche]

ah yes

[proper dune]

Ahahahahahahahahahahaha

[graceful basin]

You severely overestimate machine learning

[carmine niche]

the one-step process of training a model to make a robot move like a human

[strange musk]

I ....really don't see why you cant do something thats already done??

[proper dune]

while robot doesn't look like dancing human:
train()

[proper dune]

What do you mean?

[haughty laurel]

i just lost my virginity!

[strange musk]

openai - RL

[carmine niche]

dawg it takes a fuckton of effort to get a computer to see the difference between a cat and a dog you think training an ai to operate a whole fucking dog robot is gonna be easier than that?

[proper dune]

Openai sucks dick at robotics

[strange musk]

...?

[carmine niche]

i don't see how a text-generation ai has anything to do with controlling a robot

[strange musk]

some good arguments are better

lemme explain

[proper dune]

Okay here's an argument. Being able to co-ordinate complex motions while having fast responses to online event which respect real life physics, while also adapting to changing hardware parameters is an incredibly complex task that machine learning is a decade away from solving.

[hybrid rock]

Robotics need even more money.

[carmine niche]

press [A] to agree

[proper dune]

Current state of the art control theory can do all of that, generate new motions which adapt to disturbances, while respecting physics.

[twilit shore]

I’m glad you came to a python discord to declare that

[proper dune]

While taking no time to train

[carmine niche]

👁️👄👁️

[haughty laurel]

wrong stuff in copy paste

meant to pase this

i need to make a face detection thing from video
how can i start

[strange musk]

So, openAi's RL arm has a primary focus of doing what exactly we are talking about - in they want to invest in the ability of the model to generalize in the real world even after being trained in a simulation. (one example is there arm solving rubix cubes -- look it up)
So, they could use human actor to replicate the movement to different robots that generalizes well (like the arm can solve even if its fingers are tied/obstructed WITHOUT BEING SHOWS BEFORE!!)

[proper dune]

The amount of arrogance it takes to declare the state of the art result that machine learning has never even come close to achieve obsolete for not using machine learning is ridiculous

[strange musk]

they attempt is pretty great IMO

[twilit shore]

OpenGL

[proper dune]

Have you looked at their success rate with their Rubik's cube manipulation task?!

[haughty laurel]

the fuck is opengl

[proper dune]

I don't think you know enough about control theory to even know what you're talking about

[twilit shore]

OpenCV

Sorry got confused

[strange musk]

they solved the cube fully everytime

[carmine niche]

i don't know anything about control theory and i know enough to know that you have no clue what you're talking about

[strange musk]

🤷

[twilit shore]

Try https://realpython.com/face-recognition-with-python/
Can’t remove webview I’m on phone

[strange musk]

no no, I am not saying anyting about control theory

I am demonstrating that a similar experiment has been done in a narrow domain

[carmine niche]

@haughty laurel there are help channels, off-topic is not the place for python-related help, esp. not in a channel where there uis already a conversation

[carmine niche]

the entire fucking conversation is about control theory what 👁️👄👁️

[strange musk]

https://openai.com/blog/solving-rubiks-cube/

[proper dune]

I think you should really check your understanding of both ML and Control theory before you call the state of the art obsolete

[strange musk]

Using ADR, we are able to train neural networks in simulation that can solve the Rubik’s Cube on the real robot hand

[proper dune]

You're allowed to claim ML is better when anyone in the world makes a dancing ML robot

[haughty laurel]

thank you, if i were there i would suck u off rn

[carmine niche]

i think you need to like,,, just stop with the nsfw shit

[twilit shore]

😯 no

[proper dune]

Solving a Rubik’s Cube one-handed is a challenging task even for humans, and it takes children several years to gain the dexterity required to master it. Our robot still hasn’t perfected its technique though, as it solves the Rubik’s Cube 60% of the time (and only 20% of the time for a maximally difficult scramble).

[strange musk]

I am not claiming its better now...its just it will be better tommorrow

[carmine niche]

oh come on it is not that challenging

[haughty laurel]

i am a girl, so it's ok

[proper dune]

It will not, it will be a long time

[carmine niche]

hoo boy that's some ass-backwards logic

[twilit shore]

And I’m underage u dumass

[proper dune]

I am telling you, machine learning is not the solution to every problem and thinking so is just stupidity.

[haughty laurel]

bro it's cool being gay now, i am gay, look at the support gay people gets in google

i am gay but i dont fuck guys

[twilit shore]

Ok .topic

[strange musk]

<@&267629731250176001>

[twilit shore]

.topic

[median dome]

**What is the title of the last book you read?**

Suggest more topics here!

[twilit shore]

A book about the battle of Stalin grad from the point of Italian alpini

[hybrid rock]

In general ML has not found much success when it comes to robotics, there are many reasons, but a large part is the lack of focus on such a task. Even if one creates some ML that does the same as some of the current algorithms, it would still have to be more computationally efficient or at least give much better results. Currently there are no such results.

[proper dune]

Again, you're telling a roboticist who knows a lot about both robotics and machine learning, about what machine learning is capable of in robotics and what it isn't, saying the world's smartest roboticists are doing something wrong even though people can't even begin to imagine how machine learning will work so well

ML has been very unsuccessful in robotics, mostly because model free RL sucks

[strange musk]

well, what's to say that ML will not improve over time?

or are all robotics doing the same thing for decades?

[proper dune]

"Boston dynamics is obsolete because one possible techniques might get better"

[carmine niche]

might be better in the future does not make something that is the best in the world right now obsolete

[proper dune]

Yes, that's why we now have dancing robots but didn't 20 years ago

[graceful basin]

!tempban 270845530689634304 2m hello, please familiarise yourself with our code of conduct and overall try to have less horribly spammy activity before you return to the server. You clearly have something meaningful to say, so please keep only that and not all the noise.

[royal lake]

:incoming_envelope: :ok_hand: applied ban to @haughty laurel until 2021-05-07 23:24 (1 month and 29 days).

[proper dune]

I have low belief ML will beat control theory in legged robotics

Because ML isn't the only thing that gets better

Control theory does too

[strange musk]

algorithms? ML's aim is to make a mother of all algos (whether its close to or its existence I cant comment on)

[proper dune]

Ahahhahahahaha

You need to drink less Kool aid

[graceful basin]

ML is only going to be better for some algorithms

[strange musk]

...?

[graceful basin]

There are algorithms which are proven optimal/cannot afford incorrect results

ML isn't 100% correct. It's close, but you can't be close enough in a bank

And some robots will destroy themselves on invalid inputs

[strange musk]

ye, but DL's whole point is to map any arbitrary function. no individual algo can promise that. The more complexity - the more complex function we can map

[hybrid rock]

It's important to remember that while stuff like HTM is dealing with the neocortex / high level planning, etc. There is still EVERYTHING ELSE.

[strange musk]

ofc

[proper dune]

You seriously can not believe every single field and their algorithms developed over the last 200 years will become obsolete because of gradient descent over nonlinear activations

[shell raptor]

I guess another disadvantage of self-learning algorithms is that you can't look inside of them and tweak them.

[graceful basin]

@strange musk but if you already know the best function, the hell you need dl for

[strange musk]

I have not made any such claim

[shell raptor]

Like, whatever YouTube does.

[proper dune]

Sure did imply it

[strange musk]

no I did not

[graceful basin]

And you often do know the best function

[strange musk]

if you read my above chats ^^ I didn't say anything like that

[tranquil orchid]

Youtube just likes to throw me some random stuff from four years ago every once in a while

[graceful basin]

In fact, I would argue 99% of the time, when solving a problem, you don't want not need ML

[strange musk]

ye, but robotics is one that IMO can be used with DL

[hybrid rock]

Same I got videos from 2012

[strange musk]

IMO

[graceful basin]

I don't think 99.5% correct is good enough for robotics

[proper dune]

Again, I remind you you're a person with no experience in robotics, telling another person with a lot of experience in both ML and robotics that the people best in the world for robotics not using ML for robotics are wrong because one field you know might get better in the future.

Consider that you may be talking out of your ass

[strange musk]

wrong

I never said that. only that it might be

[proper dune]

Lots of goal post shifting with the whole "unless they want to be obsolete"

[strange musk]

I don't see you as someone who can predict what would actually happen. If 20 years later, roboticists do use ML, how can you predict that?

[proper dune]

Because I am at the forefront of robotics research in a group with good experience in robotics and ML. If anyone's qualified to comment on the future of the field, it's me

Can anyone predict the future? No

Can I make a good estimate? Yes

[strange musk]

no one can

that pretty arrogant that you think you may be able to predict something 🤷

especially the future

[proper dune]

"No one can predict the future therefore I can judge a field that I know nothing about for not using a field I vaguely know because there's a small chance it might somehow beat everything they've developed over 200 years"

[strange musk]

If anyone's qualified to comment on the future of the field, it's me
Still - its arrogant and doesn't provide much credentials unless you are actually a very well known figure

[proper dune]

Saying Boston dynamics want to be obsolete because they aren't using machine learning is arrogant

Bringing up that I am far more qualified to make that judgement than someone who knows nothing about robotics is not anywhere near

[strange musk]

I said they could be. there is a difference between speculation and actually believing it

[proper dune]

.

[proper dune]

.

[proper dune]

.

You could have said "I don't know anything about robotics but is there a chance their approach becomes obsolete because of machine learning?"

[strange musk]

These are arguments my man, not statements (unless you dont know english)

[proper dune]

Or "is there any reason why transfering from human movement doesn't work?"

Whatever, just got to work. Have to actually do work now

[vapid nymph]

Man what even went on here

[proper dune]

People of PyDis have a tendency to think they're more qualified to talk about fields they know nothing about than they actually are

[vapid nymph]

Arguments with no evidence what so ever

Specifically you~~

If Boston dynamics was obselete then they wouldn't have just been bought and sold a record number of spots.

I thought there was ML for spot to know how to walk, tho @proper dune

[proper dune]

Nope

No ML

[vapid nymph]

Oh dang

[proper dune]

Not even a little bit of ML

[vapid nymph]

So someone came up with a flipping algorithm for the entire thing

[proper dune]

Control theory is a very impressive field

[strange musk]

There were discussions on hackernews about boston dynamics, and some "insiders" claimed that BD uses heavily engineered, hand tuned but quite old ZMP algorithm. It looks like BD doesn't use any machine learning, they go exactly opposite route:

hand tuned but quite old ZMP algorithm

[proper dune]

We know very very well what algorithms they use

They don't use ZMP

Lol

[vapid nymph]

Oh

[proper dune]

They have a centroidal dynamics based trajectory optimisation stage followed by model predictive control

[vapid nymph]

Autonomy != ML
Does it?

[strange musk]

well, we all have work to do, so lets just end it and get to work. adios

[proper dune]

Nah, would love to point out what Boston dynamics uses

[vapid nymph]

It works and theyre pretty big. So not obselete by any means.

[proper dune]

(and also they dont use handtuned ZMP)

They have stage 1:
They only consider the whole-body centroidal dynamics. Only the orientations and positions of the whole body pose is considered. This is run through a trajectory optimisation process where it runs a one-time optimisation process to create motion plans which satisfy some particular goals (eg. start off on the ground, go upside down in the air some time, fall back down to the ground). It generates large complex motions.

Stage 2:
This runs another optimisation process but this time it's a much faster process meant to follow the overall trajectory generated by the first one rather than generate complex motions of its own. It considers all joints individually, adapts the motion to the particular situation and rejects any disturbances.

Using these two, they're able to generate incredibly rich motions which respect physics of what's possible, follow it in real time at control loops at hundreds of times a second rejecting disturbances, and adapt them to the situation

@vapid nymph @strange musk

[vapid nymph]

👀

[proper dune]

I'm good at cable management

[carmine niche]

mood

@.Raggy i am interested in your take on my take on the starter blink.ino project
i don't really have the materials to do anything interesting so when i am in an arduino mood i entertain my software-oriented self by rewriting beginner projects in (what i think are) interesting ways

#define LED 13
#define TIME 500

bool state;

void setup() {
    pinMode(LED, OUTPUT);
    state = false;
}

void loop() {
    inv(&state);
    digitalWrite(LED, state);
    delay(TIME);
}

void inv(bool *b) {
    *b = !*b;
}

[sterile sapphire]

you didn't actually ping him unless you didn't want to

[hybrid rock]

Feel like this is everybody's desk when they have a raspberry pi.

[carmine niche]

some people don't like being pinged and they were offline so i didn't wanna risk it

they are online now tho

probs cuz squiggle pinged them

lmfao

hi raggy

[proper dune]

If you're bored, get rid of the Arduino libraries and IDE

Arduinos are garbage anyway

[carmine niche]

hmm

[proper dune]

Use plain AVR libraries and avrdude + makefile to flash

[carmine niche]

see i would but i would have to learn how to do that which is like..

[proper dune]

Create things using proper interrupt handlers and set stuff using bit manipulation

It's not hard to learn

[carmine niche]

lmao

[proper dune]

AVR is a simple architecture

[carmine niche]

ok

maybe later

is it C?

that is, can i use C?

[proper dune]

Some of those aren't even wires, they're pipes from vacuum pumps

[carmine niche]

C > C++ imo

[proper dune]

Yes

[carmine niche]

uwu

[wispy garnet]

anyone know a fix for no sound streaming with discord?

[quartz heron]

you are the best

[proper dune]

Thanks

[low chasm]

I have a final exam tomorrow lmao

[sterile sapphire]

@low chasm good luck

[clear plume]

<@&267629731250176001> sorry for the ping but y'all might wanna clean this up

[frail saddle]

It is one message

in off topic

[clear plume]

That takes up half the screen lol

[frail saddle]

Lol 2 of my screens

[remote socket]

@frail saddle please reread the rules within https://pythondiscord.com/pages/resources/guides/off-topic-etiquette/

[frail saddle]

my laptop small 😦

[frail saddle]

ok

[clear plume]

Ugh pydis website needs a dark theme

[frail saddle]

use opera gx force dark page

its op

[clear plume]

Lmao let me just install a "gaming" browser rq

[vapid nymph]

hello @remote socket

damn he slow

[clear plume]

Well like

He probably has things to do

[quick bay]

he probably just ignored it

[remote socket]

both

[tribal aurora]

why do my usb device gets blocked even with secure boot disabled

[fading anchor]

I've got a question about ML, im unsure where to drop the question

it isn't explicitly python related, it's more just general advice on it. Where would people recommend i ask?

[graceful basin]

#data-science-and-ml is generally the best option

[fading anchor]

cheers! ^^

[graceful basin]

unless you mean ML the programming language

[fading anchor]

nah machine learning

[winter terrace]

how do i compile assembly files?

[solid pollen]

hmm you need an assembler for that

Technically you don't compile but assemble them

[winter terrace]

where'd i get that?

[solid pollen]

Which OS?

[winter terrace]

mac

[solid pollen]

Not sure, you should search the internet for mac assemblers

[odd sluice]

[vapid nymph]

hello @solid pollen who is def not a bot

[rich moon]

naw hes just blinded by the lights

[solid pollen]

mhm?

[twin charm]

ahaha

[vapid nymph]

well fuck

this is definitely abuse of azure /s

has anyone ever used autohotkey

well

i have a friend

who signed up for azure student

and installed autohotkey on the vm

this is the guy who wrote discord.ahk, which is like discord.py but for autohotkey

.….so you can guess what is happening

hint: running a discord bot written in autohotkey on azure.

[winter terrace]

is a vm worth the effort?

[vapid nymph]

in this case

its basically a raspberry pi

basically

it's slightly better imho

[winter terrace]

i mean like worth the effort to set up

wait no im just over complicating things sick

[winter terrace]

LETS GOOOOO

[vapid nymph]

👀

what did you set up

@winter terrace

did you set up an azure vm lel

[winter terrace]

ubuntu

and it kinda works but not really

apparently steam doesnt have a linux download

i really want to play 32 bit games :(

its also really slow

[rough sapphire]

@winter terrace did you do sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386?

[vapid nymph]

how did you set up a vm?

?

what are you running on

your own stuff or cloud stuff

[winter terrace]

just in virtualbox

Now, click Start and pray
i think this sums up setting up virtual machines perfectly

[winter terrace]

what will that do?

[rough sapphire]

enable 32 bit support

[winter terrace]

in mac?

[vapid nymph]

So its it on your own hardware?

[winter terrace]

yeah

[vapid nymph]

Ah okay

[winter terrace]

cuz im only trying to do all of this is because mac doesnt support 32 bit apps and as such, games

[rough sapphire]

oh, then it wont won't work

[strong arrow]

Does anyone here happen to own an old motorola/java-based/non-smartphone phone that can connect to the internet
This is important (ping me if so)

[bronze patio]

I just tried word online and it is truly hard to use

[mild abyss]

yes

yes

[bronze patio]

I thought it was good

[mild abyss]

i think by now cucumbers have already taken this server

as hostage

[vapid nymph]

👀 probably

[strong arrow]

!!!!!

Please lmk if you definitely have access to one and can try to access a website with it

[mild abyss]

@vapid nymph how did u install grub lol

i think the GUI debian installer is a step by step process, u dont need to worry much

[vapid nymph]

ffs it was the ubuntu installer that just hated something

[mild abyss]

hmm? what happened

[vapid nymph]

and grub errored. every. time
ffs

[mild abyss]

because

[vapid nymph]

no fucking clue

[mild abyss]

u didnt install grub?

u didnt run grub-mkconfig?

[vapid nymph]

it was the ubuntu installer

there was no place for a command line

it was trying to do it itself

[mild abyss]

there is actually.

[vapid nymph]

and failed

every time

👀

ffs

yes, i am ffs-ing everywhere

[mild abyss]

just find a youtube video for it, debian is one of the difficult installs but it gets easier once u do it again and again

[vapid nymph]

no

debian was easier smh

ubuntu was the borken one

[mild abyss]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

dunno

maybe broken ubuntu installer too

[vapid nymph]

yes

perhaps

pls static ip load

ffs

today is the day of the ffs!!!

ffs!

[edgy crest]

[vapid nymph]

my router rn

[mild abyss]

debian's GUI installer is step by step, u should not have missed something hmm

[vapid nymph]

i didn't

[mild abyss]

welp cant help u with that, most people installing linux are usually on their own haha

in the end

[vapid nymph]

ffs

👀

[mild abyss]

imma go now byeee

[vapid nymph]

man

ubuntu spoiled me

ffs?

ffs.

[ancient wedge]

I'm just a cucumber..

[rich moon]

did u like do a system wide update

cuz those will be installed after a system update

at least the first time u do it

[vapid nymph]

@rich moon

sudo apt update
sudo apt install

I did those....

But there was nothing

[rich moon]

huh cuz when i tried manjaro

and i did a system update

a whole load of stuff was installed during that update

[tribal aurora]

you should install them

[rough sapphire]

does anyone know how to make a giveaway reroll command

[mild abyss]

sudo apt install @narrow pecan

[narrow pecan]

Don’t mind me. I’m just a cucumber

[narrow pecan]

You should be able to just install dev tools. The actual package (group?) name differs depending on OS, but there should be something like that available

It includes git, gcc and most other common things you’ll need

[mild abyss]

base devel

[last mantle]

Finally the gurkans get some attention

[mild abyss]

shush. we need to keep it secret

we are taking this server hostage

[last mantle]

Indeed

[tribal aurora]

base-devel doesn't have git

[mild abyss]

i know

[tribal aurora]

ok

[narrow pecan]

Yep, that's it on some distos. Not all though

[bleak pine]

What does olive oil taste like?

[solid pollen]

Like vegetable oil

But it taste good

You're welcome

[vapid nymph]

🥴

What's the package name?

[narrow pecan]

What OS?

[vapid nymph]

Debian linux

[solid pollen]

Isn't it python-build-tools or something

[narrow pecan]

Then it should be called build-essential

[solid pollen]

Well

[vapid nymph]

danke

i have 3 machines i have access to

a raspberry pi, a server running ubuntu server
and a server running debian

gonna shift the pi to either debian or ubuntu

[solid pollen]

Raspbian is a good choice for some use cases

[vapid nymph]

👀

its running raspberry pi os rn

ig i could leave it

thoughts?

well

time to build 3.9.2

[vapid nymph]

Celine Dion, what do you think about what os on a pi

[solid pollen]

Uuhh

depends on the use case

[vapid nymph]

server

[solid pollen]

Raspbian or whatever is the current name is quite good with the CLI only mode

[low chasm]

I started trying to learn rust :D

[solid pollen]

Niice

[vapid nymph]

there's two versions

raspbian and raspberry pi os

[solid pollen]

No idea which one is which haha

[vapid nymph]

O

Cool

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Wait what does it say again

[royal lake]

Hey @vapid nymph!

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[winter terrace]

so im trying to set up steam inside an ubuntu vm, but its saying i dont have an internet connection

and yet im still able to use the browser?

[last mantle]

ahh yeah there is a fix for that

[rough sapphire]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTtDgFT1qCc
enjoy

[near zealot]

Hello there! Where should I ask for candidate to maintain a project? My two co-worker disappeared, and doing things alone is not the best choice out there. I also don't want to leave the community.. Any suggestion?

[tardy rain]

you can showcase your project and if people are interested they will contact you

needs to be opensource however

[near zealot]

Yes it's super open source

Where can I showcase it? There is a dedicated channel?

[tardy rain]

no, you can use the offtopic channels

[tardy rain]

python3 -m pip3 -V maybe?

[quick ledge]

You can use these off-topic channels as long as you don't spam your project

[vapid nymph]

well

fuck

[solid pollen]

Hey, 0.05% got through

[vapid nymph]

sorry noticed my name was in it here's a new ss

[rough sapphire]

@frozen coral what's the hex code in your status mean?

[frozen coral]

decode it and find out 😄

[rough sapphire]

you.... person.

why must you do this

[frozen coral]

🙂

[stiff jasper]

🥴

[winter terrace]

do rejected suggestions for sir lance bot get closed or do they just get ignored?

[rough sapphire]

lmao did he get you?

i made the same mistake

[rough sapphire]

mhm

[frank canopy]

Hello! I have a malware in my pc cause I had 99% cpu, then 2% cpu and 100% disk, and those percentages keep changing

[livid sandal]

rip ur device ig

try track the malware and deleting it

[fading sequoia]

https://twitter.com/Br3Sc/status/1369378576190029831?s=20

Pierre de Fermat (@Br3Sc)

Python list comprehensions, with easy to get examples, take a look at the image:

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[strange musk]

@fading sequoia know how to do this?
Q. Find the probability of rolling at least two 7s in four tosses in a pair of dice.

[strange musk]

use task manager, keep killing the process until you install some antivirus

[frank canopy]

Imma get the pc on fire

Cause idk much bout pc so idc

[gritty zinc]

that's 1 - probability of rolling 0 or 1 7s in 4 tosses of 2d6, which is 1 - probability of rolling 0 7s in 4 tosses of 2d6 - probability of rolling 1 7 in 4 tosses of 2d6

[strange musk]

well, then its a lost case. better install linux tomorrow

[strange musk]

wuz d?

[gritty zinc]

a d6 is just a normal 6-sided (from 1 to 6) dice

2d6 is common notation for "roll 2 d6es and sum them"

[strange musk]

is that something related to some bernoulli's trials?

[gritty zinc]

Well, somewhat related, yes

rolling a 7 is a binary outcome, so you're being asked about the probability of getting >=2 of these in 4 trials.

though you still need to find out the probability of each trial (rolling a 7 on a 2d6)

[strange musk]

atleast 7

[gritty zinc]

no, the task says "at least two sevens".

Not "at least two at least sevens" 🙂

[strange musk]

yeah, I mean like the sum can be greater than 7. so how would it be binary since there are multiple values (7,8,9)?

[gritty zinc]

Outcome 1: you roll a 7.
Outcome 2: you roll something other than a 7.

[strange musk]

ohhh

[gritty zinc]

the probabilities of these two outcomes are very different, of course

[strange musk]

could you possibly explain it with combinations and permutations to better hammer in the idea?

[gritty zinc]

Hmm, which part?

1. About the probability of getting 2+ 7s in 4 trials (in terms of the probability of getting a 7 in a trial)?
2. About the probability of getting a 7 on a 2d6 (which can be calculated by considering which of the 36 equally probable outcomes result in a 7)?

[strange musk]

no, like the whole thing without ds 🥺

[gritty zinc]

mmm... let me put it this way. Suppose I asked you

Find the probability of getting at least 2 positive outcomes in 4 tries, if the probability of a positive outcome in each trial is p.

would you be able to solve it then?

[strange musk]

maybe ye, make 2 cases: 1 positive, 2 positives. for first, it would be p. then for second, p*2. then....I multiply both?

oh, its least not most 😊

[gritty zinc]

This problem is exactly what Bernulli trials are about, basically.

[strange musk]

simplifying a large number of trials

[gritty zinc]

as the bernoulli formula (or whatever it's called) tells you, the probability of getting exactly m positives from n trials is C(n,m) * p^m * (1-p)^(n-m)

where C is the binomial coefficient

[strange musk]

😦 is this for the last year of high school? my teacher said that it would be too advanced

so C(n.m) constructs a binomial expansion?

[gritty zinc]

welp, then you'd basically have to reinvent it.
The probability of getting exactly 1 positive outcome is p*(1-p)^3 (one must succeed, the other three fail)... but we also don't care which one succeeds. So we multiply by the number of choosing the 1 successful trial from 4. That's C(4,1) by definition, which is just 4

Similarly, for 2 outcomes you have p^2 * (1-p)^2 - and that's for each possible choice of the successful pair, which there are C(4,2) = 4*3/2 = 6 of.

[strange musk]

ok, I am getting that. but how is that C supposed to be calculated?

[gritty zinc]

Huh. Did you not get taugth combinatorics before probability theory? It's usually what PT starts from.

[gritty zinc]

C(n,m) is equal to n!/(m! * (n-m)!), where !s are factorials.

[strange musk]

PT? oh, you mean 4C2 ?!

[gritty zinc]

yup, from-n-choose-m, the binomial coefficient

[strange musk]

ahhh

so, this p*(1-p)^3 would be multiplied by the positive ones chosen from the total?

[strange musk]

But this seems to be more complicated than that 😦 because the adding of the die makes it more complicated @gritty zinc

[gritty zinc]

Not really, it's just a subtask. First find out the p, then it's just Bernoulli trials.

So another question you need to answer is simply

What's the probability of getting a 7 as a sum of two fair six-sided dice?

[high zealot]

.snake fact

[median dome]

Snake fact

The world’s longest venomous snake is the king cobra from Asia. It can grow up to 18 feet, rear almost as high as a person, growl loudly, and inject enough venom to kill an elephant.

[high zealot]

.snake fact

[median dome]

Snake fact

The snake has held various meanings throughout history. For example, The Egyptians viewed the snake as representing royalty and deity. In the Jewish rabbinical tradition and in Hinduism, it represents sexual passion and desire. And the Romans interpreted the snake as a symbol of eternal love.

[rough sapphire]

Hi guys

[low chasm]

Rust is great :D

I started learning it

not as great as python tho

[rich moon]

im thinking about learning it too

cuz the new c++ standards are doing some pretty wack stuff

[low chasm]

Its a bit of a change from python though, being more low level

[rich moon]

like c++ 11 was okay

but 17 and onwards is just messed up

[low chasm]

Oof

What changed?

[rich moon]

extra syntax

that idky u need

[low chasm]

Huh ok

[rich moon]

and clang tidy starts using those syntax

[low chasm]

Lol

[gritty zinc]

I like just reading https://rust-lang.github.io/rust-clippy/master/index.html sometimes

[low chasm]

Ooh cool

I don't like how they declare types in rust though

[gritty zinc]

I love that clippy does "suggestions" like this:

[low chasm]

Oh cool

[gritty zinc]

sometimes clippy warnings are like "what you're doing is perfectly fine, but have you considered that function you might not know about that does this in half the code and possibly more efficiently?"

[low chasm]

Lol

Is rust as low level as C?

[gritty zinc]

how come?

[low chasm]

Well, its more confusing than just int, instead you have to do u32

[gritty zinc]

I do believe so - as in, it can do everything C does, you might just need some unsafe blocks for that.

[low chasm]

Oh

Ok

[gritty zinc]

pretty small ones too. Like, even when working with raw pointers, the only parts you need to wrap in unsafe is dereferencing them

[low chasm]

Cool

[gritty zinc]

because it's the only operation that can be dangerous (the compiler is trusting the programmer that the memory the pointer is pointing to contains an object of the right type - and, well, is allowed to be red from at all). As long as you don't try dereferencing, pointers are basically just some numbers.

[low chasm]

Rust seems more appealing than C

[gritty zinc]

fair enough, I get annoyed by that too

[low chasm]

Lol

[gritty zinc]

especially since I don't quite get when you're supposed to use what type

[low chasm]

Im using the rust book to learn, is it a good resource?

[gritty zinc]

like, usize as opposed to u32. usize is u32 by default on all machines if I remember the Rust book right, but some builtin stuff like iterator indexes is usize and some is u32.

[low chasm]

Hm

[gritty zinc]

can't really find anything better, I believe. Though I also loved this one: https://rust-unofficial.github.io/too-many-lists/index.html

[low chasm]

Cool, i'll check that out, thanks :D

[versed saffron]

usize allocates the size of a single address on your machine iirc "For example, on a 32 bit target, this is 4 bytes and on a 64 bit target, this is 8 bytes."

[versed saffron]

honestly I had the same thought but the more i've looked into OpenGL and low-level mechanics/optimisation/asm stuff the more I've been leaning towards learning c

[low chasm]

Huh

[gritty zinc]

ah, I misremembered a bit: isize and usize are always just dependent on the bitness. I was thinking about default types:

integer types default to i32: this type is generally the fastest, even on 64-bit systems. 
The default type is f64 because on modern CPUs it’s roughly the same speed as f32 but is capable of more precision.

[low chasm]

Whats the data type for strings?

[gritty zinc]

depends on whether you mean smart Strings or string slices &str

see 8.2 about how the data is stored, it's quite fascinating

[low chasm]

The chapter?

[gritty zinc]

yeah, I personally didn't really think much about how Unicode works before I read it

[low chasm]

Oh ok, i'll check it out, thanks :D

[gritty zinc]

well, at least there's the same consolation as in Python - thanks to LLVM's free cross-language linking, in case anything goes wrong you can include C functions in your Rust project, no wrappers needed 🙂

[versed saffron]

huh that's pretty neat

[tardy rain]

Theres also rustlings

https://github.com/rust-lang/rustlings

[gritty zinc]

oh, right

[tardy rain]

Excellent exercises, i wish python had something similar

[gritty zinc]

my problem with rustlings is that they aren't skippable

nor seem to have an index

[graceful basin]

Python koans are somewhat similar, but idk how good those are nwvadays

[tardy rain]

You can run specific tests iirc

[gritty zinc]

I have no idea how many exercises are in front of me, on what topics they are, and when will interesting ones begin

which isn't very nice

[versed saffron]

I like how helpful the errors are tho

[gritty zinc]

yes

Rust compiler screams at you a lot, but it's okay at the end, because you love it

[mild abyss]

i like it screaming at me

it makes me feel like i am loved

[undone fox]

hi guys, i need help from those that use vscode. So i currently have a workspace that i made but i figured out that instead of inheriting the settings from user settings, it inherit the settings from vscode default settings. What can i do so that any workspace that i made will inherit settings from the user settings instead of the default one?

[mild abyss]

add a settings section on your .workspace file

and open workspace instead of open folder once u open vscode

i will give an example

[young shoal]

stockholm syndrome

[undone fox]

so i can only open 1 workspace at a time?

[mild abyss]

i think u can open multiple workspaces but different instances of vscode

but i havent explored much

[undone fox]

o so multiple vscode windows?

[mild abyss]

{
  "folders": [
    {
      "path": "Chapter 1 - Getting Started"
    },
    {
      "path": "Chapter 2 - Programming a Guessing Game"
    },
    {
      "path": "Chapter 3 - Common Programming Concepts"
    },
    {
      "path": "Chapter 4 - Understanding Ownership"
    },
    {
      "path": "Chapter 5 - Using Structs to Structure Related Data"
    },
    {
      "path": "Chapter 6 - Enums and Pattern Matching"
    },
    {
      "path": "Chapter 7 - Managing Growing Projects with Packages, Crates, and Modules"
    }
  ],
  "settings": {
    "files.defaultLanguage": "rust",
    "editor.fontFamily": "'FantasqueSansMono Nerd Font','JetBrainsMono Nerd Font'",
    "editor.hover.enabled": true,
    "editor.fontLigatures": true,
    "editor.formatOnSave": true,
    "editor.formatOnPaste": true,
    "editor.formatOnType": true,
    "editor.formatOnSaveMode": "file",
    "editor.defaultFormatter": "matklad.rust-analyzer",
    "rust-analyzer.cargo.allFeatures": true,
    "rust-analyzer.server.path": "/usr/bin/rust-analyzer",
    "rust-analyzer.updates.channel": "nightly",
    "lldb.displayFormat": "auto",
    "lldb.showDisassembly": "auto",
    "lldb.dereferencePointers": false
  },
  "extensions": {
    "recommendations": ["matklad.rust-analyzer"]
  }
}

here is an example workspace config

[mild abyss]

yeah thats what i think

[undone fox]

when you work on your projects do you only open 1 workspace at a time (personally)?

[mild abyss]

depends. u can also create a separate settings if it is for a specific language like

["julia"]: {
  "some setting":
}

[mild abyss]

in rust i use it

[undone fox]

i see

[mild abyss]

because rust-analyzer works only if there is a cargo.toml file

[mild abyss]

dunno about other languages though

[sterile sapphire]

is that the one where you fall in love with your captor

or something

[rough sapphire]

Yee

I think

[rough sapphire]

yup

[sterile sapphire]

interesting

[sterile sapphire]

https://youtu.be/5ouipq4n5BM

idk I found this funny

[clear plume]

Wow this is one very dead chat

[tribal aurora]

mhm

[royal fable]

#help-peanut plssss

[strange musk]

r/memes??

[twin charm]

what is the context for this ot name btw

[gritty zinc]

it refers to the Github activity thingie, with a colored square for each day

[twin charm]

ohh

I understand

so relatable 🥲

[violet roost]

argh
I like NumPy-style docstrings more than rst, but rst is better documented, especially for working with Sphinx

hmmmm

choices, choices...

[rough sapphire]

@bot.command()
@commands.has_permissions(manage_messages=True)
async def tempmute(ctx, member: discord.Member, time):
    muted_role=discord.utils.get(ctx.guild.roles, name="Muted")
    time_convert = {"s": 1, "m":60, "h":3600,"d":86400}
    tempmute= int(time[0]) * time_convert[time[-1]]
    await ctx.message.delete()
    await member.add_roles(muted_role)
    embed = discord.Embed(description= f"![TickSpin](https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/818097255617527808.webp?size=128 "TickSpin") **{member.display_name}#{member.discriminator} is Muted Successfully**", color=discord.Color.green())
    await ctx.send(embed=embed)
    await asyncio.sleep(tempmute)
    await member.remove_roles(muted_role)

For some reason my bot doesnt mute for 10 seconds 10 minute or something like that even if i say so. it just mute for 1 minute or 1 second. how can i fix that

[tribal aurora]

@violet roost yo what's up

where have you been

[violet roost]

doin' class

[tribal aurora]

it's been a while since we've met

[violet roost]

such a while that I can't even remember meeting

rip me

[tribal aurora]

that's right, because i've changed my name multiple times

I think u know me Death, Death.exe Lost

or u still can't remember ._.

 ãØ
Vcˆ

what are these

[violet roost]

Yeah, I remember now

I had to answer a question

[violet roost]

some encoding thing

idk

[tribal aurora]

that's the ascii of 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0

[violet roost]

oh

it's not ascii

lol

[tribal aurora]

yea but that's what it gave me

[violet roost]

copy my status and google it

[burnt bane]

ok

[tribal aurora]

so it's AACS encryption

[violet roost]

yes

[frozen oak]

Hey! Does turning off the power damage my computer?

[tardy rain]

No, why would it

Just turn the pc off first

[frozen oak]

But if i forgot to turn of pc

@tardy rain

[tardy rain]

You might lose files i guess idk

[twin charm]

all unsaved work will be lost

[frozen oak]

Thats all?

No pc hardware demage?

@tardy rain

[tardy rain]

Bro stop pinging me wtf

[frozen oak]

Just asking

[tardy rain]

How am i supposed to know if your pc is gonna be damaged

Treat it right and it wont

[frozen oak]

Aright thanks

[still sky]

Does this make sense They made their agreement to negotiate an extent of the Mississippi River. Portuguese explorers include the first Africans, who captured and Revere of the Ohio River. The capture of Quebec led to the French Declaration of the Rights of Man and the Citizen Treaty of Rights of Man and Commerce. The spirit of the Declaration of the Howes and judges of the people became free to colonize most of Canada.

Like is this true? Is it written well? And is it accurate

It's text generation for something I'm making for fun

[violet roost]

Portuguese explorers include the first Africans, who captured and Revere of the Ohio River.

who captured and Revere

eh?

[still sky]

I think it meant they captured Revere (of or and) the Ohio River

Paul Revere in this case

But it's just one small mistake

I'll generate another piece of text

The Europeans in North America were overwhelmed by settlers and by a wave of European settlers and trade, including a new population of Africans. A significant number of European languages did not appear to exist in the Americas until decades after Asia and Africa were separated from it during the Age of Discovery. After the introduction of other cultures to the indigenous nation, civilizations began to develop communications with Europe via telegraph by a trans-Atlantic cable. The first recorded European references to North America (other than the English or Spanish-American letters) were put in the first English (other than the later cultural) to be used in``` don't mind the last sentence it was cut off

[edgy crest]

does anyone know what font is this

nvm found it

monster rat

[twin charm]

ctrl+shift+i moment

[finite sierra]

https://store.hp.com/in-en/default/laptops/personal-laptops/envy-laptops/hp-envy-x360-laptop-13-ay0044au-3l993pa.html is this a good laptop? planning on buying it, but i know basically nothing about computers and specs :/

[last mantle]

@finite sierra #ot2-never-nester’s-nightmare

[finite sierra]

wdym?

[twin charm]

the conversation that "was" going on there was related to your initial message here

[finite sierra]

oh wait whaaat

time to scroll

[finite sierra]

can you link me where to it starts? i can't seem to find it

[twin charm]

#ot2-never-nester’s-nightmare message

[last mantle]

it wasnt

i thought you would ask somehting and it would continue in flow

thats all

[finite sierra]

oh oof

i'd gone for dinner :/

[twin charm]

oh shii-

[last mantle]

ok then continue here

that is a good laptop

[finite sierra]

i haven't got much to ask other than whether that is good lmao

okay nice nice

gonna take your word for it

[last mantle]

wait

check if you have extra storage and ram slots in it

[finite sierra]

i think i saw some reviewer dude say it's easy to extend the RAM

dunno about storage

tbh storage shouldnt be too much of an issue, i don't use much

[last mantle]

hmm ok

tbh i would go for a ryzen 7, your choice tho

[finite sierra]

yeah there is the same laptop with the ryzen 7 which i really wanted

but i waited too long and now it's gone out of stock

[last mantle]

ahh

sad

[finite sierra]

need to order soon, so gonna settle with this i guess :(

[last mantle]

imma wait for zen3

[finite sierra]

ooh

alright thanks for the advice :D

[last mantle]

heh , i did not advice you on anything but ok

[finite sierra]

validation, then

[sterile sapphire]

don't use this channel or any channel here as a meme dump

[high zealot]

sorry

whar

t

[high zealot]

If i got a nickel every time you said that i would be rich

[sterile sapphire]

@high zealot yeah bc these people don’t listen

[eager cliff]

greetings

[rich rover]

I used to be an adventurer like you, but then I took an arrow in the knee!

[vapid nymph]

don't use this channel or any channel here as a meme dump

[high zealot]

yes i have heard

[vapid nymph]

well this channel name is

uh

[quartz ermine]

you kind of shot yourself in the foot there

[vapid nymph]

👀

[rough sapphire]

omg

i'm staff now??

[low chasm]

Lol

[narrow pecan]

Oh no, our staff chat leaked!

[rough sapphire]

oh noes

what are we gonna do about that

[low chasm]

I'd imagine the staff channel to be more active :D

[rough sapphire]

it probably isnt

considering how the vc stays empty all the time

[frozen coral]

Hah you'd be surprised

[rough sapphire]

lol

maybe some day

[narrow pecan]

@rough sapphire try searching how many messages I have

[vapid nymph]

how many do you have say that first

[rough sapphire]

29.438

[narrow pecan]

That’s the count if we exclude staff channels

If we include them, it’s 50,200

[low chasm]

Lol

[vapid nymph]

31k

oh

[rough sapphire]

good lord

[vapid nymph]

wait so

you can actually be an admin without being a moderator, like @honest star

[low chasm]

Whoah

[vapid nymph]

i thought they could just add and remove the role from themselves

[royal lake]

@covert folio Please don't try to ping @everyone or @here. Your message has been removed. If you believe this was a mistake, please let staff know!

[narrow pecan]

Yep, you can be an admin without being a moderator (Kay’s a mod though)

[low chasm]

All staff have to be helpers though, right?

[vapid nymph]

but why tho

yeah

[vapid nymph]

all are

[low chasm]

Alright

[narrow pecan]

Helper is our base staff role. Helpers are staff

[vapid nymph]

iirc the helper role is actually an internal role

where alll staff have the helper role

[narrow pecan]

What are y out referring to?

[vapid nymph]

like

wouldn't admins be mods by extension

[low chasm]

Alright

Hm, what difference in perms do admins and mods have

[frozen coral]

It's less about perms, more about actual role in the community

[low chasm]

Alright

[frozen coral]

Kutie didn't moderate, but had admin duties

[low chasm]

Oh

[rough sapphire]

honestly

[narrow pecan]

They can moderate if they want to, sure, but they aren’t moderators per say. If you look at lemon, he’s fantastic when it comes to managing the server, being a driving force and and working on our branding. But that doesn’t mean he wants to moderate actively. Sure, if someone is spamming he can manage it, but it’s not as much of a commitment as to being a moderator

[rough sapphire]

i'd deny getting a staff role if i was offered one

[low chasm]

So admins have more responsibilities than the mods

[honest star]

I'm only a mod as of today and it's to primarily help out the mod team. I don't forsee myself having this role forever.

[low chasm]

Oh ok

Cool

[honest star]

admins have different responsibilities than moderators.

Most admins are mods, so it blurs, but I wouldn't say more.

[rich moon]

seems mods are the ones that do the !ban

[low chasm]

Oh ok

[narrow pecan]

I like how this actually became a staff chat, instead of a staff chat

[low chasm]

Lol

[rough sapphire]

confusion.

[mellow spire]

Moderators modeate over the server

while admins, administrate

lol

[low chasm]

Lol

[narrow pecan]

77 + 33 ≠ 100

[vapid nymph]

better than a rick-pond.
ooh, can someone check the origin of this name? I bet it has to do with joe having a rickroll and duck-pond

[low chasm]

Lmao

[narrow pecan]

This is all I can tell you

[low chasm]

Lol

[rough sapphire]

2 + 2 * 2 = 8

[narrow pecan]

That’s what happens when Rick ends up in the duck pond. Truly a tragic story

[narrow pecan]

That would be 6

[low chasm]

Lol

[rough sapphire]

i know

[vapid nymph]

ffs i need _ctypes

[rough sapphire]

it's just that the majority of people responds with 8

[narrow pecan]

Disturbing thought

[rough sapphire]

it's usually under pressure

[low chasm]

I have PEMDAS burned into my head lol

[rough sapphire]

which humans are terrible and handling

most of us at least

[narrow pecan]

Imagine that you’re in a car race, speeding up toward the finish like. You just pass the person in 2nd place. What placement do you get?

[low chasm]

Well, i'll go eat dinner, cya guys

[rough sapphire]

whats a finish like

[narrow pecan]

Alright, enjoy

[mellow spire]

Seems to be done in a staff chat.

[vapid nymph]

you get your own position.

[narrow pecan]

Yep, the lounge

[vapid nymph]

👀

[rough sapphire]

i mean

you passed the guy on the second

you become the second

[vapid nymph]

good job yes

[rough sapphire]

yeah i can see how people would answer first to that

i am staff now 😎

160K members became staff.

surely this will end well

and not in catastrophe

[narrow pecan]

lol

If you get asked about it live, it’s quite common to say 1st place, because it makes sense, even though it doesn’t

[rough sapphire]

yeah

[vapid nymph]

i mean vester doesn't have mod perms so

ugh vester, have you ever built python from source before?

[narrow pecan]

It’s about the fact that positions are relative in races. If you pass the 2m line in normal things, the line won’t move. Instead, you’ll be in front of it (maybe at 1 meter). The same concept applies to the race thing

[narrow pecan]

Lul I tried on my iPad’s little VM-ish running Alpine Linux

[vapid nymph]

i'm missing the _ctypes module

I need that module!!

but it fails to install

hm

I wonder if its what I did to get the github on the machine

since its firewalled I had to download it here and scp it over

ffs

[narrow pecan]

That’s annoying

[vapid nymph]

i built python3.9.2 from source on 3 machines

and each one

has a different quirk

in one, it installed to the wrong folder

in another one it left out _ctypes

and a third one installed 3.10

welp

no, 3.10

its a difference smh

my favorite guide: https://getkt.com/blog/compile-and-install-python-from-source-on-linux/

[rough sapphire]

so long as i dont need a reason to build from source i am happy

[narrow pecan]

CPython is switching to using a main branch instead of master

[vapid nymph]

ok master

ffs

its the reason behind master why they're switching

since it has other meanings and the origin

[narrow pecan]

Yeah, I think that’s it

Do you know about GitHub’s initiative to change it as the default?

[vapid nymph]

yeah

that's why i remember this

but ffs

why is each install have something wrong with it

anyways

[rough sapphire]

why?

[vapid nymph]

.

[narrow pecan]

Time to sleep

Night!

[vapid nymph]

that's dismissive as hell 👀

[narrow pecan]

I have a board meeting tomorrow morning lol, gotta get some rest

[vapid nymph]

you could at least respond to komododragon before you go, even to just say anything

[rough sapphire]

!otn a sick-stick-man

awww

[low chasm]

Hi :D

[rough sapphire]

can we get an otn

"ill-loner-x-society"

[low chasm]

Lol

[narrow pecan]

@low chasm @,,MrKomodoDragon#7975 I could swear that someone (joe?) mentioned it in a staff channel, but I can’t find the source now

[low chasm]

Oh lol

[narrow pecan]

Take it with a grain of salt, unless you find something yourself

[low chasm]

Alright

[narrow pecan]

Oh, I meant to ping @vapid nymph

[low chasm]

lmao

[rough sapphire]

btw

[honest star]

It's in the mailing list: #mailing-lists message

[vapid nymph]

the what?

[rough sapphire]

have you 👁️ d today?

[vapid nymph]

👀

👁️

[narrow pecan]

Thanks kat!

[shrewd tulip]

is this

general

[vapid nymph]

well this is a nice error

[low chasm]

Well, its offtopic, so anything not relating to python goes here

[rough sapphire]

so yeah

[shrewd tulip]

ooh

[low chasm]

welp

[rough sapphire]

i guess it is

[narrow pecan]

This is off-topic

[vapid nymph]

because that file doesn't exist on the github

[shrewd tulip]

UR PFP IS ME WTF LMAO

[narrow pecan]

We can chat about python here too, though

[rough sapphire]

#python-discussion is for all things python

[narrow pecan]

(As we just did)

[vapid nymph]

no they're allowed to talk here about that

[shrewd tulip]

BRO??!

[rough sapphire]

destiny

[narrow pecan]

Yeah, that’s allowed here

[shrewd tulip]

wtfff

[low chasm]

Lol

[shrewd tulip]

how did u even get that pic

[rough sapphire]

a dude sent it to me

[shrewd tulip]

bro

[rough sapphire]

saying "she looks hot right?"

[shrewd tulip]

i took that pic like

yesterday

[rough sapphire]

jesus

[shrewd tulip]

?????

[rough sapphire]

that's pretty fucked up

[shrewd tulip]

anyways guys pls help me w my hw im about 2 cry

[royal lake]

Rules

5. Do not provide or request help on projects that may break laws, breach terms of services, be considered malicious or inappropriate. Do not help with ongoing exams. Do not provide or request solutions for graded assignments, although general guidance is okay.

[shrewd tulip]

oh

[low chasm]

We can guide you though

[rough sapphire]

we can guide her though

[shrewd tulip]

yes pls

[rough sapphire]

guidance is alright

so?

[strange musk]

....?

[rough sapphire]

context

very wonderful thing

[strange musk]

I still don't get it

[rough sapphire]

you don't need to

[shrewd tulip]

so

pls provide general guidance

[rough sapphire]

with?

[shrewd tulip]

can i dm

[rough sapphire]

sure

[vapid nymph]

👀

[last mantle]

I have not eyed yet today

[vapid nymph]

[wise schooner]

👀

[opaque sentinel]

Staff chat?

[twilit shore]

Staff leaks

[rough sapphire]

hacker moment

[high zealot]

[low chasm]

Guys, say I have two disks, an ssd and a hard disk, and I want to install a Linux vm, is there a way I could have the installation on the hard disk, and allocate 5-10gb on the ssd to use as a cache?

[young shoal]

sorry, staff only

[low chasm]

Lmao

[acoustic moss]

lol

[low chasm]

Im the last message In all of the ot channels I'm so powerful

[acoustic moss]

not any more

[low chasm]

Nope, still am

[vapid nymph]

👀

[low chasm]

Lol

[vapid nymph]

👀

[low chasm]

Lmao

[vapid nymph]

👀 no

[low chasm]

xD

[vapid nymph]

👁️ stop

[low chasm]

K

[vapid nymph]

this is completely a useless convo

[low chasm]

Yes

[vapid nymph]

agreed

[low chasm]

Also agreed

[robust jetty]

same

[twin charm]

wait hahah I thought the mods forgot to hide this channel 🤣

[low chasm]

Lol

[acoustic moss]

God I love reddit

You have to choose one person from all of human history to shit their pants, at a time so as to change the course of history as much as possible. Who would you choose, when and why?

[sterile sapphire]

Hitler when he quit art

[wise schooner]

newton before the apple fell on him

[sterile sapphire]

idk why tho

[acoustic moss]

I mean the apple would fall on him all the same even if he shat his pants

[wise schooner]

no, he would have other things to worry about then :D

[acoustic moss]

true

[sterile sapphire]

trump’s inauguration ceremony

He would never be able to move past that

[acoustic moss]

becomes expert in fluid mechanics instead

[wise schooner]

nuu

[solemn leaf]

staff chat 👀

hello staff 👋

[sterile sapphire]

This isn’t staff chat

This is SPARTA

[wise schooner]

python already has ;

[vapid nymph]

seriously could this stop being reposted

i'm gonna bring that r/jokes thing here if it continues

this is meme 26 above

[edgy crest]

ye pls add {} in python

[wise schooner]

why isn't it being added tho? if everyone wants it

[vapid nymph]

ffs

!d f-strings

[royal lake]

`f-strings`

This appears to be a generic page not tied to a specific symbol.

[vapid nymph]

there

they exist

be happy

[edgy crest]

[wise schooner]

yay :)

[acoustic moss]

>>> from __future__ import braces
  File "<stdin>", line 1
SyntaxError: not a chance

[vapid nymph]

ffs don't ruin it

[wise schooner]

ugh compiling cpython is p a i n on windows

anyone did it?

[golden walrus]

the staff chat, the user lounge

[young shoal]

🤔

tos breaking clients be like

[wraith hound]

They do though.

I've never used one, but I'm in the Discord Testers server, and so many people have bugs that are because of that.

[vapid nymph]

Wdym

I didn't think it was called staff-chat.... Lemme check

!src

[royal lake]

Bot's GitHub Repository

Repository

Go to GitHub

[golden walrus]

the ID for the lounge is public

[vapid nymph]

Yeah I was just looking for it