it was nothing to do with that line, we had just removed a couple of lines so it ended up displaying that one instead of the correct line which was 2 lines above it
#ot1-perplexing-regexing
rough sapphire
gentle moss
hah
rough sapphire
those lines we removed were from docstrings describing a hack we had tried to implement to make something work with Java, after we figured out a different hack we could use instead
python sucks
and this entire script basically wouldn't need to exist if we weren't using java
so really the problem was java :P
the real problem is always python
even when there's 0 python code
sand goblet
oh, that reminds me
I'm getting nowhere with that project I talked about before
I think I'm left with no choice but to draft people in, haha
you still down for that, xx?
rough sapphire
of course @sand goblet DM me anytime
sand goblet
I have no idea if it's something you actually would be interested in working on, but I will in a bit
rough sapphire
@sand goblet What project's that?
solid pollen
<@&267629731250176001> ^ in all 3 ot channels
sand goblet
Mods are asleep, post ponies
edgy magnet
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royal lakeBOT
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cerulean granite
yo guys pls help
how do you explain whitespaces to a kid
i know its cheating but i got a presentation tmr
lost knoll
what kid doesn't understand whitespaces?
bleak lintel
it's a pretty self explanatory phrase
rough sapphire
indents ?
bleak lintel
arguably one of the most
cerulean granite
no i mean
so what im thinking is
to write programs for computers, you gotta first think like one.
rough sapphire
tell them its like air you cant see them but its there. just like whitespace
cerulean granite
the first step is to understand what things you can and cannot get away with in programming.
im gonna make these rural kids millionaires
wooo
sorry anyway
steady forum
heres a question
if the only cookies on a site are from google's captcha stuff
do you need to write a privacy policy
tiny raven
Ramen time
rough sapphire
if you don't want any legal issues . then sure.
spare hinge
@solid pollen some snake
rough sapphire
hey guys, on a scale of 1 to OH GOD, OH FUCK, how bad is a recursive import situation?
rough sapphire
@sand goblet nah sorry mate
rough sapphire
not even that, I've just been drunk for about 48 hours straight
drank a bit on Friday night, next morning my friend asks me out for a social
which.. I'm still at
vestal briar
Dont be becoming an alcaholic now
rough sapphire
:(
I try not to
I don't usually drink (this often), it just sorta happened this way this week
usually I drink less than once a week
vestal briar
I have nothing to do
tame terrace
less than once a week is impressive?
vestal briar
xx didn't say they where awake, mind you
sand goblet
haha, I suppose not
orchid summit
id check for alcohol poisoning at 24 hours
rough sapphire
i hate c++
woven snow
A cat's worst nightmare: being stranded in the middle of a pool on an unstable pool float
vestal briar
But to humans that's fun
woven snow
Lol yeh
But kittehs hate water
At least most of them
Also
4 things that cats are
Cute
Silly
Sometimes jerks
Oftentimes liquid
vestal briar
First good star wars game i've seen in a while
Was this the singleplayer one they where talking about 6 months - 1 year ago?
vapid bluff
have you played any of the jedi knight games
vestal briar
The only old starwars game I have really played is battlefront 2
vapid bluff
well if you like fallen order you might like jedi knight 2 and 3 as well. kind of in the same action/adventure vein.
not as much parkour and you have guns/grenades/etc too
you also get dark side powers
if you choose to
vestal briar
Cool
tame terrace
yep, Jedi Academy and Jedi Outcast are definitely games that helped inspire Fallen Order.
along with dark souls, breath of the wild, uncharted, knights of the old republic..
it's a very inspired game.
and, yeah, pretty damn good.
vestal briar
I'm just watching an entire walkthrough, pretending it's just a very long movie
gentle moss
Let's Not Play!
vestal briar
👌
autumn herald
I dunno, from the gameplay i've seen of the game
it's a game i already played tons of time with another skin
rough sapphire
I watched god of war that way.. all of them as movies.. lol
got to play like 1 and 2.. but the rest of it.. youtube:3
vestal briar
I have an xbox but no morney to buy the game or the billion batteries the controller sucks up
orchid summit
lithium ion ftw
wheat lynx
Rechargeable batteries👍
sand goblet
You can get battery packs for xbone controllers
We have the controllers without the xbone because they're good controllers
gentle moss
lipo batteries for controller
because then when you rage there's a real sense of danger
rough sapphire
LOL
fossil solar
anyone knows c lang here?
vestal briar
clang or the c language?
solid pollen
Probably a lot of people here haha
fossil solar
c language
vestal briar
Sort of
fossil solar
i need some help
i have my electronics practicals tmw and there is a chance of geting the c program too and im v bad at c cuz my teacher aint that good, he still has to teach a lot but lab waits for no one, lol
can u explain what those printf lines are doing
not sure what those %f and +i do
fossil solar
what will they output
vestal briar
I'm not sure
fossil solar
okay
fossil solar
thanks
vestal briar
It may print others with the special character preceeding
fossil solar
btw what is that +i and -i
vestal briar
That's what i'm not sure of
fossil solar
okay
fossil solar
okay
i need to take a full c tutorial insted of relying on school for it but not enough time for it currently
thanks
rough sapphire
i am so spanish i now burp in churrrros
i am so spanish i now speak umbreala out as grandma
what
sinful copper
@fossil solar the +i and -i are just text, they're printed as part of the output. it looks like this is printing real and imaginary numbers
i'd usually put i after the number
fossil solar
Oooooh
Shit I dint see the +i was within the quotes
I got confused as it was between the %f
Thanks
rough sapphire
ohhhh
plucky ridge
I was just as confused as you were, xx
@fossil solar Oh, Ice, did the link to the explanation help at all?
fossil solar
Yea
I still need to read the whole convo yet
But maybe tmw after few exams
need to read a bunch of amplifiers and oscillators, rip electronics
plucky ridge
No worries. And I'd be more than happy to step through the explanation again
I love going over the basics
fossil solar
I will ask if I have doubts
plucky ridge
I always seem to learn something new or come up with a more detailed example
fossil solar
Cool
rough sapphire
today was a good day
got a new motherboard for my laptop
its purring like a kitten now
grave phoenix
Buenos días Mandy
plucky ridge
@rough sapphire
its purring like a kitten now
Sounds like a fan is going out
I'm kidding
rough sapphire
lol
vestal briar
What happened to birth rates in 1970-1980? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demography_of_the_United_Kingdom#Population_change_over_time
vestal briar
Thatcher implamented a 0.5 child plan or some shit I didn't hear about
gentle moss
no
but due to her policies loads of people were out of work
there was less income per house hold
blah blah blah
etc etc
people didn't fuck to make babies because who would want to bring them into that world?
vestal briar
Wouldn't have thought it would have been that significant to birth rates
Like maybe 50% less
gentle moss
there was a 3 day week because there wasn't enough frigging power to run the factories
shit, there wasn't enough power for people's homes
the 70's were broke as fuck man
sly swift
finally applied
plucky ridge
I'm mad.
For some reason, PS4 got super skimped on when it comes to mods in Skyrim and Fallout 4
sand goblet
PS4 has mods in skyrim at all?
sand goblet
Unusual for a console game
plucky ridge
Not as much as you might think anymore
Does make me wonder why some of them are restricted to one console or another
sand goblet
I suppose they all have to be rated
sand goblet
That's a silly limtation
plucky ridge
...The PS 4 version's space for mods is limited to just 1GB, while the Xbox One has 5 GB reserved for add-ons.
sand goblet
I guess Sony didn't really see people using it
plucky ridge
One of the limitations is that you can't upload external assets for the PS4 mods
Where as you can for the Xbox One and PC (well obviously PC)
Only in game assets.
Which makes me wonder... I've mainly just wanted a pack mule type companion.... wonder if I can just make a simple one.
This is the one I used when I played on PC
He stayed out of the way, could hold a shit ton of stuff, it was great
plucky ridge
He was great
sand goblet
I have to say
plucky ridge
Had a stealth of like, 75 I think
plucky ridge
Bethesda knows to leave it to the users to fix their mistakes
sand goblet
Oblivion's was mostly pretty good though
plucky ridge
Which is why there even is an Unofficial Patch mod on Fallout 3, New Vegas, 4, Skyrim and Oblivion
When you make a world THAT huge, there's going to be lots of messes to clean up
Ends up being more limited with the PS4's version, though
Which bites
sand goblet
Well hey, at least you're not playing the Switch version
I own that too, and goddamn, it's a hot mess
plucky ridge
I don't know why you would have expected otherwise
sand goblet
haha, I suppose
I only got it because I figured mom might want to play/watch me play, as is often the case
it has motion controls
they're absolutely atrocious
plucky ridge
Breath of the Wild only worked as well as it did because it was built from the ground up for the system itself
Then you introduce a bug monster like Bethesda...
sand goblet
haha, I suppose
I just
motion to attack, OK
but it's so.. the weapon doesn't actually move with your arm?
it's like playing an old zelda game on the wii
in first person
you can aim bows reasonably well with it, but
plucky ridge
Not overly unexpected. A shame, though
plucky ridge
Yeeeahhhh
sand goblet
hardly a surprise on a console with 32 GiB of storage
sand goblet
No, dude, seriously
there are switch games
that are larger than you can store on the switch
plucky ridge
No I know I'm trying to remember...
I think I got an SD card that's about 128 gb or so
sand goblet
Yeah, which works
plucky ridge
I think, might have been larger
plucky ridge
You haven't sent it in for fixin?
sand goblet
well I can't back up my saves
sand goblet
I have NSO so some of them are backed up online, but none of the ones that matter
some games have it intentionally disabled
plucky ridge
Right right
sand goblet
splatoon, for example
the one game that you could put a lifetime into progression for
plucky ridge
I thought that was per account anyway
sand goblet
no save backup
I just can't imagine why they thought it was a good idea
I mean, yes, splatoon 1 had a lot of issues with save scumming
there are better solutions to this problem
plucky ridge
I would assume it'd just be online account based. But given the nature of the system, I suppose that wouldn't suffice
sand goblet
I think that would be ideal
but splatoon isn't server-based, it's p2p
so even doing that has limited security
plucky ridge
Squid in the middle attacks
sand goblet
haha, yep
on the other hand, people have already figured out how to mod their switches and scum that way
so it isn't really protecting anyone anymore
Speaking of games, have you seen Deep Rock Galactic on Steam?
An interesting up-to-four-person-coop first-person shooter style thing about space dwarves in mines
rough sapphire
some games have it intentionally disabled, yeah because it "prevents cheating" 
That's some of the silliest reasoning I've ever heard for not backing up saves.
solid pollen
Why does people have strong feelings for systemd? I just created two service and it is GREAT so far!
solid pollen
Hmm yeah I get it
But it is pretty good
Also, should I be worried?
Dec 03 10:42:30 ubuntu systemd[1]: apache2.service: Control process exited, code=exited, status=1/FAILURE Dec 03 10:42:30 ubuntu systemd[1]: apache2.service: Failed with result 'exit-code'. Dec 03 10:42:30 ubuntu systemd[1]: Failed to start The Apache HTTP Server.```while doing `sudo apt install apache2`cat /var/log/apache2/error.log
solid pollen
It is empty
gentle moss
¯_(ツ)_/¯
solid pollen
Oh well I had something already running on port 80
gentle moss
that'd do it
gentle moss
nginx would be more suited for that
solid pollen
nginx you say? Gotta google some tutorials haha
gentle moss
it's actually easier to get setup than apache
at least imo
a site config for a proxy pass would look something like this:
server {
listen 80;
server_name sub.domain.tld;
location / {
proxy_pass http://internalip:port;
proxy_set_header Host $host;
proxy_set_header X-Real-IP $remote_addr;
proxy_set_header X-Forwarded-For $proxy_add_x_forwarded_for;
proxy_set_header X-FOrwarded-Host $server_name;
}
}
lol, nice work discord
it threw the / in before the port
solid pollen
Hmm okay thanks!
gentle moss
okay.
vestal briar
Thy shitty golf ball ist not impresso'd.
solid pollen
@gentle moss I made it to work it successfully forward the domain to the port, but I just realized that I need to keep a connection between the server and the client (I'm hosting this https://github.com/tsl0922/ttyd), can I do it with nginx somehow? (for now it just immediately close the connection)
tired osprey
youd just want to have a websocket
and then you can tell nginx to forward the websocket wiht a simple proxy_pass instruction
at least thats what nginx.com thinks https://www.nginx.com/blog/websocket-nginx/
you apparently also gotta set a bunch of headers so it works properly
@solid pollen
tame terrace
not very surprising, considering your car is an antique
tame terrace
antique like 50s is pretty cool
bisks car, however, is in that sweet spot between "old enough to be cool" and "new enough to be drivable"
solid pollen
What pentium car do you drive?
gentle moss
2001 honda accord
plucky ridge
@raven folio What gaming framework are you using? We might at least be able to guide you to folks who would know.
raven folio
Whats a gaming framework
rough sapphire
I'm assuming engine or so?
raven folio
Whats engine
plucky ridge
What issues were you having with your game that you're making then
solid pollen
The questions is, how hight up hemlock is scrolled :)
plucky ridge
I just assumed it was issues with pygame or something
raven folio
Idk what pygame is
plucky ridge
I'm not scrolled up, I'm keeping from clogging up #career-advice
raven folio
Ok so one of the problems is that there's a yes/no option at the beginning
solid pollen
Oh I see :)
raven folio
And if you put in anything other than yes or no it does something that it was supposed to do if you typed in yes
I'd give you the code but Im not at the right computer
autumn herald
You should probably check the elif keyword
rough sapphire
if input.lower()[0] = "y", assume yes, else no
solid pollen
Or just two and a loop
plucky ridge
That was the main thought yeah
orchid summit
solid pollen
My friend, you are going to need a catch up lesson from hemlock! Take your pop corn, sit down and enjoy :)
plucky ridge
while True:
if user_input.lower() in "yes":
# do the yes stuff
break
elif user_input.lower() in "no":
# do no stuff
break
else:
print("Please enter either yes or no")
Um
plucky ridge
Hemlock doesn't have time for one, not yet. Busy with work stuff
raven folio
Let's do this when I get home
plucky ridge
Sure
raven folio
Then I can show you the code and that would make it a lot easier
solid pollen
Akarys is sad because he can't follow hemlock lesson :)
raven folio
I'll be home at 2-3 cdt
plucky ridge
To be fair I only have like 2 lessons super down to an art
The classes one and the async example
The rest is just me flying by the seat of my pants
solid pollen
Well, you fly pretty well
wheat lynx
You're still very good at it though :)
plucky ridge
All from years of bsing my way through things
orchid summit
sounds like school
wheat lynx
That is a very important life skill
raven folio
I wish I understood how to install path
solid pollen
And I'm freezing when it's +12
plucky ridge
That's centigrade, right?
solid pollen
Centigrade.. like Celsius? Yes
rough sapphire
celsius, yeah
plucky ridge
Well one nice thing that we can all agree on is that -40 is cold as hell
solid pollen
I think I would instantaly die if it was -40
robust sierra
1
rough sapphire
heyo
how do I set environment variables in vscode
like.. I cant seem to find it in settings
cosmic quiver
orchid summit
math 
plucky ridge
Huh. Today I learned that PowerShell has a built in SSH
Always thought I had to use something like Putty
As does CMD
Did this happen at some point recently and I just didn't notice or has Putty just been redundant for a while now
Oh it is fairly recent
early/mid 2018
Neat
rough sapphire
I wonder what will happen if a lot of people do .8bitify at same time , will the machine crash , will the bot get rate blocked or what ?
plucky ridge
Neither? Since discord.py is async and only runs on one thread at a time, it'll just process the .8bitify commands one at a time
edgy magnet
The bot will work, but the results will be sent in late
plucky ridge
And it won't be rate blocked because discord.py handles that as well
And even if it wasn't async, it would still do the things one at a time.
It's not exactly an intensive process to 8bit something
edgy magnet
The rate limit for message sending is 5 message / 5 seconds, since each of the result is a single message, that's the only thing that'll be slow
Otherwise the bot will live, it;s pretty resilient
rough sapphire
what is the most cpu consuming command here
plucky ridge
Why?
rough sapphire
just wondering
plucky ridge
Probably that one, honestly
That makes me happy. Raspbian comes with both Thonny and Mu
HA
It even comes with games made by Al Sweigart himself
rough sapphire
@plucky ridge not just powershell, cmd.exe has it as well, they ship openssh with dinwows now
holy shit, *windows
plucky ridge
Yeah I saw, it's freaking awesome
Previously I was diving in via Git's bash it provides
Makes it easier
rough sapphire
yep! Note that openssh also includes scp etc with it
which is really neat for windows to have
plucky ridge
Remind me what that is. Any time I see SCP I think about those creepy pasta stories
rough sapphire
Basically, copy files over ssh
rough sapphire
can copy files or dirs from or to a server via ssh
plucky ridge
That's really handy
plucky ridge
Recursively, meaning it'll copy all the way down the tree?
rough sapphire
Yep, so if you do scp -r mydir/ user@server:/var/, it copies everything inside "mydir" to /var/ on your server (recursively, ie it checks for directories in that directory and traverses those as well)
plucky ridge
I'll be damned
That's cool
I could also see myself doing that accidentally and copying way too much
grave phoenix
paypal doesn't wants to send me the confirmation code ofr my phone
what do
rough sapphire
@cosmic quiver Add it to the list, essentially. That's, what, 10+ streaming services now?
We're right back to the point we were at before cable cutting.
ebon vessel
I wonder what that will lead to...
rough sapphire
¯_(ツ)_/¯
nocturne cove
Where i make questions about compiling python from source?
dusky orchid
what's the issue you're having?
also i'm pretty sure it would fit in any of the general help channels or the relevant OS channels (#unix and #491524019825278977)
nocturne cove
@dusky orchid it's about where to define __ANDROID_API__
dusky orchid
what platform are you building on
nocturne cove
@dusky orchid android
dusky orchid
are you using termux?
nocturne cove
@dusky orchid yes
dusky orchid
what version are you compiling?
nocturne cove
3.8 i guess
3.9.0 alpha 1
README.rst:
This is Python version 3.9.0 alpha 1
====================================```i'd suggest using 3.7 on termux for now if you want something stable, which they have available already built i think. however if you're just wanting to play for the fun of it, you can add the relevant definition to $CFLAGS such as -D__ANDROID_API__=21
you will need to be aware of what android api value is relevant for your own device though
For example android 7 has API 24 it seems
nocturne cove
@dusky orchid where i have to define this?
dusky orchid
$CFLAGS is the environmental variable
-D__ANDROID_API__=21 just means to define (-D) the variable __ANDROID_API__ with the value 21 during CMAKE builds
nocturne cove
Hmmmmmmmmmmmm
shell zealot
so uh, was told to bring the #free-the-bot discussion over here
hope someone with some python expertise can help out
cerulean basin
Update to Buster and you'll have 3.7
ebon vessel
does rasberry pi have any real competitors?
acoustic brook
i think there's a bunch of specific ones for machine learning that have a bit more parallel umph but i don't know if they are comparable in price
I just maxed out my system's memory for the first time unintentionally with python 🙂 do i celebrate?
rough sapphire
no
ebon vessel
no, you optimize @acoustic brook
acoustic brook
it's converting a 2GB PDF to images. i made it do one at a time now instead of all of them 8 at a time
rough sapphire
no worries, it's probably some infinite while loop opening files and not closing them
acoustic brook
I was gonna start on advent of code and suddenly i get an actual project of useful money making things 😮
rough sapphire
what's the difference between a jump server and proxy server
dusky orchid
hmm, if i'm understanding right, a jump server is a type of proxy that's required to access a resource that's limited and wouldn't be accessible otherwise
so a jump server sounds like it would fall under the umbrella of proxy servers
rough sapphire
a jump server is a type of reverse proxy
proxies can also be forward-facing, ie towards the rest of the 'net
reverse proxy?
reverse proxy is something you connect to to access internal resources
(as opposed to forward proxies, which you connect to to connect to the rest of the WAN/internet)
rough sapphire
ok then
I wanna make an instance group with a bunch of VMs and let someone else ssh into them so they can do stuff..
rough sapphire
nah, been too busy
rough sapphire
really
tell me how lol
I'm not used to devops stuff..
I'm running the VMs so someone else can set up an analytics application for me.. that uses a db set up on one of the VMs in the group
trying to figure out how to give them only ssh access to the instance group.. so I dont give away permissions for all my stuff on gcp
gentle moss
are instance groups contained within some kind of security group?
i'm unfamiliar with GCP but in AWS you create and assign instances to security groups
basically a firewall for that set of instances
rough sapphire
they're in a VPC.. yeah
gentle moss
so you should be able to allow access over port 22 for a specific IP address
gentle moss
you shouldn't need a proxy server if the instances are all in the same security group
they have public IP addresses?
rough sapphire
you mean.. are they open to the internet? no
gentle moss
no, i mean do they have public IP addresses.
you can have a public IP address and not be world visible
sand goblet
That's ipv6, baby
gentle moss
hush you
rough sapphire
I'm not sure how to do that.. :v
gentle moss
let me look up the GCP stuff
rough sapphire
I need to look up a resource.. that'll explain these networking concepts to me..
gentle moss
imagine security groups as a firewall
okay they're called "Compute engine Firewall rules"
you can assign public IP's to your instances, or even just one if it's on the same internal network as the other servers, and restrict access to that/those servers using the firewall rules.
if you just assign a public IP to one instance someone could SSH into that and then just SSH over the internal network to the other servers.
rough sapphire
yay:)
I'll just do that then
so on a cloud provider... there's no use for setting up jump servers and stuff?
no
jump servers should only be used for physical servers or so
and even then a VPN would be better suited
gentle moss
indeed
rough sapphire
physical servers?
you mean like.. on premise?
what about if it was between on premise and the cloud? would it make sense then?
gentle moss
what do you mean between the two
like connecting a cloud server with the local one?
because for that you'd create a VPN tunnel between the local network and the cloud network
gentle moss
Network Address Translation
and a VPN because it's a secure tunnel between the two locations.
if the servers needed regular access to each other having them both visible to each other through a Site-to-Site VPN connection is the best option
it also means, if your cloud servers aren't public facing and never need to be, you don't have to assign it a public IP to connect into them
you can basically link your local network and the remote network
cobalt otter
I donated to Wikipedia today
remote creek
lmao
gritty depot
why?
solid pollen
Because they leave from donations, and that a nice source of information that you probably use every day?
gentle moss
i donated £10 once for that very reason
but that's their lot, i refuse to give jimmy wales anymore
wooden silo
I donate ~6 euro per month to Wikipedia.
gentle moss
good man
i'd probably donate more often if it meant jimmy wales' face would stop appearing in a banner
but no matter how much you give it keeps coming back
wooden silo
As annoying as Jimmy is, I mainly do it because losing Wikipedia would be a goddamn catastrophe.
rough sapphire
thought you said -6 euros
isn't it just 2.5 $
thought "damn, taking money from Wikipedia doesn't sound very ethical"
it just ask for that 2.5
gentle moss
yeah but give what you can afford
because some people (me) feel like they've given enough already.
rough sapphire
people donating hundreds of thousand to teamtrees wikipedia just asked for 2.5
rough sapphire
[ass]
gentle moss
:D
rough sapphire
gentle moss
list ass
solid pollen
I’m trying to compile a program that has 14000 dependencies, how muck luck I need for it to work on a ARM64 device? 😄
Well, that’s a node-js compiler
I don’t know much about node.js, but why on earth it needs to be compiled?
It is an interpreted language right?
No idea what this is, so I’m just going to agree with you
I mean, JIT
Ooh okay
tired osprey
@solid pollen are you sure its node js and not typescript?
solid pollen
Oh!
yeah it is
🤔 .
Why did I thought it was node.js
JavaScript everywhere!
I still find strange that a language that was developed for the web was ported to be run without a browser
rough sapphire
hold up...
solid pollen
I would read it too, but there is some character that I can’t even type with my keyboard haha
rough sapphire
• Exposition stands
• Museum furniture
• CNC and laser cutting
• Inner and outer advertising
• Light advertising
• Acrylic products
• Signs and [another word for signs]
• Digital typing (no idea how to translate this)
• Stickers
• Design
solid pollen
Well, I guess it is fine as long as they don’t do anything that is more or less close to a computer
gritty mulch
@sand goblet I am very sorry to ping but would you be able to help me through some Kotlin/Gradle thing or point me to someone or somewhere that can?
sand goblet
What did you have in mind?
I'm actually working with Kotlin right at this moment
writing some code for Journeymap
so this is probably a good time
gritty mulch
The Minecraft mod?
sand goblet
yes
gritty mulch
Good hecking mod
gritty mulch
Lol
Anyway I will save the complaining about how trash the Java naming and structure conventions are
I want to get a small Kotlin native project working with Gradle and I just cannot figure out how to do my build.gradle
Should I just share my project structure?
gritty mulch
I don't think this should be any different than JVM
It's the sourceSets stuff I cannot figure out
sand goblet
with the JVM you don't even set that
there are conventions so you never even have to worry
src/main/java, src/main/kotlin, src/test/java, etc
gritty mulch
Yeah I've checked that article
It also doesn't help half of the things I find are half Groovy half Kotlin
And there's a millionb different ways to right the same thing
sand goblet
this is the structure I'm working with atm
there's no sourceSets in the build.gradle
sand goblet
it's a Forge build.gradle
also I don't have the license to do that
but you can look at one of my own ones
gritty mulch
That would be great thanks
gritty mulch
sourceSets {
main.java.srcDirs += 'src/main/kotlin/'
test.java.srcDirs += 'src/test/kotlin/'
}
The main and test are just referring to the structure right?
I mean like the ones not in strings
sand goblet
I mean they're referring to a list, I think
main.java.srcDirs should be some kind of array
jagged fog
Discord just hot updated and I can see markdown while I type
undone berry
not for me
terse sluice
me neither
terse sluice
lmao
exotic birch
Alpaca
rough sapphire
Llama
solid pollen
Hun, I have the beta and that doesn't even work
oak tangle
Could be platform-dependent
orchid summit
pic or it didnt happen
dusky orchid
how so
timid scarab
> >>> for i in range(10):
> ... print(f"loop {i}")
> ...
> ```puts > in front of every line
dusky orchid
right
i believe a patch was made for that already though, so it should be pushed out soon
timid scarab
ah okay
rough sapphire
bpython works fine
dusky orchid
lol that's nothing new
solid pollen
That there is no colors?
timid scarab
afaik markdown colors never worked on mobile
solid pollen
Doesn’t work on the web portal too
solid pollen
Guys, what is a search domain?
rough sapphire
Like google have there own DNS
@solid pollen search domains are used for domain name lookups which are not FQDNs
when I was in the UK, I thought living in the city made me miserable
i was wrong
living in the UK made me miserable
I look at the city I live in now, and I see what's different
ya'll got no goddamn greenery
at all
everything is so gray and miserable
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dusky orchid
!mute 616333810916655112 1D
royal lakeBOT
:incoming_envelope: :ok_hand: applied mute to @rough sapphire until 2019-12-07 12:17 (23 hours and 59 minutes).
dusky orchid
there was an attempt
rough sapphire
@everyone pings are disabled, dude
dusky orchid
!ban 616333810916655112 Literally just entered the server, zero history, started spamming lennys and attempted to mass ping. Interesting combo, quite ineffective and the only thing it grants you is a permaban.
royal lakeBOT
:ok_hand: applied ban to @next sigil permanently.
rough sapphire
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gentle moss
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rough sapphire
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terse sluice
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finite jasper
F
terse sluice
lol channel name
dusky orchid
that's enough i thinks peeps. lets move on
oak tangle
It's kinda my fault
I changed the channel name to match the chain for a second, but then someone broke the chain
but, let's move on yeah
dusky orchid
well that explains why i didn't understand the random channel name message
gentle moss
that's entrapment
rough sapphire
2 burger(s) and 1 wrap
or
1 burger 1 wrap ?
oak tangle
.8ball 1 burger 1 wrap?
median domeBOT
Yes definitely
finite jasper
wot
gentle moss
why would you take one option which is less than the 2nd option
rough sapphire
Thanks <3
wh
how much do you eat
2 burgers and a wrap??
I am skinny , i can eat a lot
damn bro you must be really hungry
It's just don't go anywhere
rough sapphire
Burger King : TRIGGERED
rough sapphire
😍
Quality pic 2k19
nsfw
always hated those
why are you promoting YT so much.. very suspicious
sand goblet
I'm not gonna watch it
solid pollen
Someone knows an equivalent of theses vim plugins for Ubuntu? https://www.archlinux.org/groups/x86_64/vim-plugins/
sand goblet
Discovering why we use arch, eh?
solid pollen
Man, arch looks great
I never said something against it
I just have too much problems to have broken package to fix
rough sapphire
windows cough cough
rough sapphire
but why. why you hate windows for development
gentle moss
you can't even do that unless you have Win10 pro
gentle moss
people who haven't purchased their own license
and are just using what came with their device
speaking of which, must take a win 10 license home
rough sapphire
OEM keys are pretty cheap and get the thing up and running fine af
gentle moss
you're missing my point AG :P
home is usually good for most people's purposes
even programming
rough sapphire
I know , they probably don't wanna upgrade cuz that void the win activation
vapid bluff
did people who used win 8 pro get 10 pro as well when upgrading?
gentle moss
not... sure
gentle moss
the ultimate trash
vapid bluff
i liked the idea. execution, not so much.
sand goblet
to be fair, docker on w10 pro is pretty great
sand goblet
w8 wasn't that bad
who actually uses the start menu anyway
that's what search is for
vapid bluff
the way they were trying to unify the windows experience on all devices was an interesting and radical paradigm shift imo. it was just... a little ahead of its time and not executed too well.
rough sapphire
and some random button that pop out from right , no one know how to actually make them pop on purpose
solid pollen
Win8 is the worst OS ever
solid pollen
I’d prefer a command line UI over Win8
vapid bluff
gdude did you have acorn pcs at your school
sand goblet
no, thank fuck
sand goblet
in my infant school they had an apple imac in every classroom
the really old, huge ones
then in junior they all had a windows 95 machine
solid pollen
Is it.. risk os? (Acorn)
sand goblet
in primary school over here in ireland, most classrooms didn't have a working computer
and then in secondary they all had windows 7 machines, plus two whole labs of them
and then in uni we had access to windows 7/ubuntu dualbooted machines
and 10gbit internet
although it was only actually that fast if you got in early
rough sapphire
dualbooted OMG
solid pollen
Hun what??
rough sapphire
We finally got a upgrade to win 10 after mysql.connector failed to install in win 7 LOL
sand goblet
it was a really interesting IT setup in that uni
there was wifi everywhere
but the lecture halls had a device on the wall which ruined the mobile signal
pretty sure that was intentional
rough sapphire
my early school have those ACER pre built PC's with win 10. everywhere , although they didn't gave me admin access, i still hate them for this
rough sapphire
not gonna bet my ass that's for sure , that's pedo
win 10 is so secure i never got a way around then guessing the pass ;-;
rough sapphire
what are you gonna do with my ass if i lose ?
sand goblet
it's a figure of speech
rough sapphire
please don't pin that LOL
rough sapphire
ahh, i just wanna make it pass so that i can use it as soon as i can
sand goblet
You'll get there, haha
sand goblet
that's Volcyy
rough sapphire
never ever saw him here
sand goblet
jchristgit on github
Oh, he's around
Although I think he's busy lately
He's a good guy.
rough sapphire
Not even online for so long
sand goblet
It's december, people do tend to be busy
rough sapphire
if i die someday, no one will tell you that i died , people will probably think i am busy ;-;
random thought
solid pollen
I love looking for people just to know in which country they live
rough sapphire
me in hell probably
solid pollen
Chatting with people all around the world
@sand goblet is there a arch server version, like Ubuntu?
solid pollen
Well, no arch for me then
sand goblet
Why's that?
solid pollen
Too lazy
sand goblet
use manjaro, then
grave phoenix
majaro is nice
sand goblet
then use Arch
solid pollen
Arch have a GUI
solid pollen
Wait, no GUI by default?
sand goblet
that's right
solid pollen
Oooh
The question is now, is it worth reinstalling and reconfiguring everything
oh and if there a native pi support
sand goblet
Which pi?
pine vector
does it use netplan like ubuntu server? that would be my only real reason to use arch over ubuntu...
sand goblet
It doesn't come with a network manager by default
solid pollen
Meh, when I see the download instructions, I think I should learn experience with Linux on Ubuntu first
pine vector
of course it doesn't.. 
sand goblet
It has the tools to connect yourself up
and it'll connect to ethernet automatically
but other than that, you need to install one
there's a NOOBS fork that installs arch if you need it, akarys
I forget what it's called though
solid pollen
I got a problem with my pi disconnecting from the Ethernet to connect o the WiFi, so that’s a good point for me
I mean, it is one of the most complicated disto right?
sand goblet
otherwise you just download the img and etcher or dd it onto the SD card
I wouldn't say so really
solid pollen
(Thanks spellchecker)
sand goblet
honestly I find it less complicated than distros like ubuntu
rolling release sure has its advantages
pine vector
i would imagine that if you don't have much experience with linux, it could be frustrating to setup. not to say it can't be done by a beginner; there are def help pages/manuals available. but frustrating...
solid pollen
I mean, one week ago I never used Linux, and I just setup Nginx and certbot for the first time in my life one day ago, do you really think using arch is a good idea?
Yeah please, no frustration yet
pine vector
well, you're already running a non-GUI distro, so you've probably experienced a little. 😄
solid pollen
Well, I did only basic things
gentle moss
why would you use it for a server?
sand goblet
that's really the only thing that's easier on ubuntu
solid pollen
The set up isn’t the problem, the problem is the everyday use
sand goblet
There are good reasons to use Arch on a server, but none of them are typical
well then you'l have no trouble, akarys
gentle moss
fair enough
sand goblet
my servers all run arch
the only one that is actually used for hosting things is like
nginx, docker, salt
that's it
grave phoenix
i would go with debian as a server
sand goblet
Arch is great for that when you're not running a ton, because it's very easy to keep things up to date
solid pollen
I don’t really want to use them for hosting things, more like a remote computer
sand goblet
my other server runs arch, and I'm using it right now
grave phoenix
same
solid pollen
Also, is there more guide online for Ubuntu than arch?
gentle moss
yes
gentle moss
pfft, arch wiki?
sand goblet
there are more randoms writing half-assed blog posts about ubuntu
credible guides? definitely not
grave phoenix
long live the arch wiki
sand goblet
the arch wiki is great, yeah
it's so good, it helps people that don't use arch
haha
gentle moss
imo the wealth of resources for ubuntu are pretty good
grave phoenix
also, i have leet packages installed
solid pollen
I use Ubuntu atm, but weirdly
solid pollen
Of course!
grave phoenix
what device is that?
gentle moss
firefox is the new chrome
solid pollen
iPad
grave phoenix
ah, ok
solid pollen
Firefox arg please no
gentle moss
enjoy your inability to properly block adverts
solid pollen
I use chrome on all my devices anyway
grave phoenix
then yeah i would go with chrome if i used an ipad
solid pollen
I can’t use Firefox anyway
grave phoenix
but i wouldn't use an ipad in the first place
sand goblet
ipads do not have actual chrome
dusky orchid
yeah, ios/ipados chrome app is just ... the chrome
it still uses the safari browser engine.
solid pollen
I don't have the choice that's the school iPad
gentle moss
make sure you smear icing cake in the speaker holes
grave phoenix
what
gentle moss
i worked at a school
grave phoenix
elaborate
gentle moss
they had ipads and the state some of them came back in was just grim
cake icing in speaker grill
snot and boogers wedged in the gaps of the case
pretty sure one had spit on it
solid pollen
Hemmmm no they give us the iPad when I'll be graduated
I'll have paid it 900€ in total
solid pollen
I already have a proper pc -_-
plucky ridge
The Potato 9000
I actually know nothing about your rig, I just wanted an excuse to use that phrase
gentle moss
mine's getting to potato 9000 levels
rough sapphire
sounds pretty OT to me
gentle moss
FX6300 and an R9 380x
solid pollen
Well, I build my computer myself, so I can name it Potato 9000 right?
plucky ridge
Of course
plucky ridge
My current rig at home is called "The Seer"
plucky ridge
Based on a dream I had for some reason
gentle moss
mine's named "biskbox"
rough sapphire
how do you know this isn't the dream
gentle moss
but i like to call it "why aren't you working you piece of shit?"
gentle moss
hah
rough sapphire
pants at work.. that's so 90s
gentle moss
i guess everyone here is nerdy enough to do naming schemes
most of my devices are named after Firefly related stuff
plucky ridge
The dream was sort of like.... an oracle telling me that I'm the world's seer
And it's stuck with me in my head for years now
rough sapphire
but did you see that coming..
plucky ridge
But I'm not going to use it as a screen name, too lofty of a title to me
plucky ridge
True
gentle moss
sounds like the secret to a good steak
rough sapphire
speaking of food.. Coca cola has the weirdest flavors in Japan
solid pollen
My pi is called ubuntu because I’m too lazy to change the default name, does that count?
gentle moss
no
solid pollen
Rhoo
gentle moss
give it a name
may i suggest uhhh
"servarys"
cause it's an akarys server
servarys.
solid pollen
Before I erased it, his name was celestia, because my pi isn’t in the cloud, so it is in the space
gentle moss
servarys snape
solid pollen
What is the command to rename and broke everything?
gentle moss
you have to edit some stuff
rough sapphire
Don't do that actually
gentle moss
sudo nano /etc/hostname
sand goblet
wrong