ot1-perplexing-regexing

[green pelican]

I really think educating children is the best solution

[low chasm]

i know both of my sisters would just freak out if my parents barred them from adding contacts that weren't their family

[green pelican]

Imagine being on social media the first time at 18 and getting pwned in 48 seconds

[tardy rain]

Are children getting pwned in 48 seconds

[low chasm]

it would make it kind of hard to be social

[green pelican]

Yes and children don't have bank accounts to worry about

[wraith flower]

I generally draw a line between social media apps where you can easily interact with people you don't know (random instagram accounts, discord servers, etc) vs apps more like WhatsApp or Facebook Messenger that's much more geared towards communicating with people you know

[green pelican]

Id rather a 13 year old get pwned than and adult lol

[tardy rain]

18 yos dont have bank accounts either lmaooo

[green pelican]

I had one at 16?

[stark prawn]

what

[green pelican]

Lmao

[low chasm]

a lot of my friends had bank accounts in high school

[tardy rain]

Check your privilege smh

[stark prawn]

I got mine at 13

[tardy rain]

At 18 youre supposed to be a poor bastard

[wraith flower]

I was in a normal public high school. Majority of people had bank accounts

[low chasm]

yeah i think that's fair

[willow narwhal]

You can be poor and still have a(n empty) bank account

[low chasm]

i also used to use discord to call friends while we were playing games, it'd be kind of sad if i couldn't have done that

[tardy rain]

You dont have to worry about exposing an empty bank account tho

What are they gonna do, leave money in?

[green pelican]

Holy shit

[tardy rain]

Please

[green pelican]

Cybersecurity is a myth anyways

[willow narwhal]

Overdrawing it

[wraith flower]

Overdraft it and you get to pay fees

[stark prawn]

how do you even expose a bank account

[green pelican]

I've seen people fuck 900 credit scores for fun

[low chasm]

skill issue

[tardy rain]

Overdrafts are an extra thing where im from

[green pelican]

Keep persistent access

Then use said money

[stark prawn]

My bank account at 13 did not allow for overdrafting

[wraith flower]

My credit score took a dip cause my bank automatically increased my credit card limit without asking me 😭

[low chasm]

i should lowkey get a job now that i think about it

[green pelican]

Guys hot take but you shouldn't leak your bank login regardless of how much money is in it

[low chasm]

i spent all my money on food

[pulsar heart]

bad parents are very common, and the internet can indeed be an outlet for kids whose alternative is a violent childhood with the neighborhood kids

[wraith flower]

But what if the sketchy game I clicked on is demanding me account details to continue?

[stark prawn]

What kind of bank allows for a login without a physical factor

[green pelican]

Mine 💀

[tardy rain]

Lmao

[low chasm]

does faceid count

i can log into my banking app with faceid

[stark prawn]

idk what faceid is

[tardy rain]

cli what is your mothers maiden name

Perchance

[green pelican]

Johntrontavious

[wraith flower]

I don't need anything physical for my bank either

[low chasm]

cli guess what

[green pelican]

What

[low chasm]

my club stores all of our passwords in a shared google sheet

[green pelican]

Hahahahah

[low chasm]

😩

[stark prawn]

I either need my card or my phone, which was authorized by using the card, and i need it for every transaction

[green pelican]

I love it

[low chasm]

i might just create a shared bitwarden account but that's lowkey a pain

but i need to get a bank account for the club soon so a proper password management solution would be a good idea

[green pelican]

"Security by being so dumb you can't believe they'd do that for real" ahh model

[low chasm]

it's just our instagram and other social accounts right now

[green pelican]

😩

[stark prawn]

not a per person log in so you can see who ran away with the money?

[low chasm]

oh, and the account we use to request funds from the university 💀

[green pelican]

GOD

[uneven pine]

I use bitwarden for passwords

[low chasm]

yeah me too

[green pelican]

I just memorize mine ngl I always forget to add to keepass

[uneven pine]

One for personal one for work

[low chasm]

i've just been bikeshedding whether or not a shared bitwarden account is a good idea for our club

[stark prawn]

It's a step above post it notes

[low chasm]

fair enough

yoo what if we used whatsapp

end to end encryption 😤

[green pelican]

Postit notes require physical access which id trust over an open sheet on a computer tbh

[wraith flower]

I used my noggin for a long time. Until I occasionally forgot what password is used where. And then resetting passwords. And that made it worse to keep track of what password where

[low chasm]

bitwarden is great i love bitwarden

[green pelican]

Hot take password books aren't that bad if you secure the physical access

[low chasm]

it has actually nice integration with ios

[uneven pine]

Yeah

[low chasm]

it's kind of a pain on a mac but the majority of my password entering is through a browser anyways so the extension gets the job done

[wooden silo]

I mean, that's basically what a password manager is

[weak peak]

https://tenor.com/view/byuntear-sad-sad-cat-cat-meme-gif-25617057

[pulsar heart]

the latest NL related nonsense I just finished resolving was so complex that my legal advisor laughed, scratched his head and said: "I don't know"

I didn't do anything either, like, I was just living my life and out of nowhere pops out this problem, it's like walking on eggshells 😅

[tardy rain]

We should ban non staff polls

[royal tartan]

make a poll for it

[tropic ore]

just vote the last option for "yes" btw

[uneven pine]

We should add vote banning

[solemn tulip]

Rename it to ot0, ot1 and ot-1

[minor ferry]

what kind of democracy is this

[carmine apex]

scratch that. rename ot2 to ot3 and keep the others. or keep ot0 and move ot1 and ot2 to ot2 and ot3

[green pelican]

index them at 1

[minor ferry]

index them at 2

but count by 4

[solemn tulip]

or you pick one, we show that one of the other ones is really ot🐐, and then we let you decide whether to stick or switch

actually having a goat otn would be funny

as a reference to the thing

[shell socket]

you're a genius

[green pelican]

finally some recognition

@carmine apex this is how you should be treating me

[minor ferry]

VOTE

[green pelican]

this mf

voted no

[shell socket]

Dude..

[green pelican]

there is literally no way

im being trolled this hard by discord

WHY WOULD YOU VOTE NO

nvm u didnt slight overreaction

[weak peak]

L

[carmine apex]

@vale raven you traitor

[vale raven]

Thanks

[green pelican]

Spelling Bee — 5/5 words correct 🐝🔥
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩
https://less.gg/spellingbee

I AM THE GOAT

I AM SO GOOD

[carmine apex]

second try?

[green pelican]

wtf guys

[green pelican]

NO

all first try

[carmine apex]

@weak peak when the lion catches the gazelle, the lion shall perhaps merely warn it, and feast another day

idk what to offer fenix

[vale raven]

DAMMMMMNNN fast mode is fast

[weak peak]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-ishowspeed-side-eye-ishowspeed-stream-really-bro-speed-side-eye-gif-15294067925031808124

[tropic ore]

single party

[carmine apex]

the lion is kind to the gazelle, and its kindness is unappreciated 😔

[green pelican]

https://tenor.com/view/jarvis-ragebait-this-guy-iron-man-tony-stark-gif-3966857531535969686

[carmine apex]

okay

[carmine apex]

vim

[green pelican]

NO

not funny

when i get promoted to mod here first thing im doing is perm banning you

i cant wait

[carmine apex]

you posted a meme that said

ragebait this guy
clearly referring to yourself 🧠

[green pelican]

😐

.games

[median dome]

Command Help

**```
.games [amount=5] <genre>

**Can also use:** `game`

*Get random game(s) by genre from IGDB. Use .games genres command to get all available genres.

Also support amount parameter, what max is 25 and min 1, default 5. Supported formats:
- .games <genre>
- .games <amount> <genre>*

**Subcommands:**
**`games company [amount=5]`**
*Get random Game Companies companies from IGDB API.*
**`games genres`**
*Get all available genres.*
**`games search <search_term>`**
*Find games by name.*
**`games top [amount=10]`**
*Get current Top games in IGDB.*

[green pelican]

.games genres

[median dome]

Currently available genres: Point-and-click, Fighting, Shooter, Music, Platform, Puzzle, Racing, Real time strategy, Rts, Role playing, Rpg, Simulator, Sport, Strategy, Turn based strategy, Tbs, Tactical, Hack and slash, Quiz/trivia, Pinball, Adventure, Indie, Arcade, Visual novel, Card & board game, Moba

[green pelican]

.games quiz

.??

nonono

.play

[carmine apex]

[green pelican]

help me

!play

[royal lake]

In-place vs. Out-of-place operations

In programming, there are two types of operations:

• "In-place" operations, which modify the original object
• "Out-of-place" operations, which returns a new object and leaves the original object unchanged

For example, the .sort() method of lists is in-place, so it modifies the list you call .sort() on:

>>> my_list = [5, 2, 3, 1]
>>> my_list.sort()  # Returns None
>>> my_list
[1, 2, 3, 5]

On the other hand, the sorted() function is out-of-place, so it returns a new list and leaves the original list unchanged:

>>> my_list = [5, 2, 3, 1]
>>> sorted_list = sorted(my_list)
>>> sorted_list
[1, 2, 3, 5]
>>> my_list
[5, 2, 3, 1]

In general, methods of mutable objects tend to be in-place (since it can be expensive to create a new object), whereas operations on immutable objects are always out-of-place (since they cannot be modified).

[green pelican]

AAA

HELP ME

[carmine apex]

.quiz moment

[green pelican]

.quiz

[median dome]

Quiz game Starting!!

Each game consists of 7 questions.
Rules :
1: No cheating and have fun!
2: Points for each question reduces by 25 after 10s or after a hint. Total time is 30s per question
Category : cs

[green pelican]

ah yes

[median dome]

Question #1

What is the nickname for the textbook 'Compilers: Principles, Techniques, and Tools'?

[carmine apex]

dragon book

[green pelican]

CPTT

[median dome]

@carmine apex got the correct answer :tada: 100 points!

You got it! The correct answer is **`Dragon Book`**

Let's move to the next question.
Remaining questions: 6

Score Board

thurisatic: 100

[green pelican]

ah

[median dome]

Question #2

Which of these languages is the oldest?
(Tcl, Smalltalk 80, Haskell, Standard ML, Java)

[carmine apex]

certlang

[green pelican]

80

[median dome]

20s left!

[carmine apex]

tcl

[green pelican]

Smalltalk

Java

[carmine apex]

smalltalk 80

[median dome]

@carmine apex got the correct answer :tada: 75 points!

You got it! The correct answer is **`Smalltalk 80`**

Let's move to the next question.
Remaining questions: 5

[green pelican]

Standard <ML

[median dome]

Score Board

thurisatic: 175

[green pelican]

EHAT

[median dome]

Question #3

What letter is used to separate date and time in ISO 8601?

[carmine apex]

T

[median dome]

@carmine apex got the correct answer :tada: 100 points!

[green pelican]

2

[median dome]

You got it! The correct answer is **`T`**

Let's move to the next question.
Remaining questions: 4

Score Board

thurisatic: 275

Question #4

What does one call the optimization technique used in CPU design that attempts to guess the outcome of a conditional operation and prepare for the most likely result?

[green pelican]

CACHE

REGISTER

[median dome]

20s left!

[green pelican]

L1

L2

L3

ESX

[median dome]

10s left!

[carmine apex]

branch prediction

[median dome]

@carmine apex got the correct answer :tada: 50 points!

You got it! The correct answer is **`branch prediction`**

Let's move to the next question.
Remaining questions: 3

Score Board

thurisatic: 325

Question #5

A hypothetical point in time at which technological growth becomes uncontrollable and irreversible, resulting in unforeseeable changes to human civilization is termed as...?

[carmine apex]

singularity

[median dome]

@carmine apex got the correct answer :tada: 100 points!

You got it! The correct answers are **`technological singularity, singularity`**

Let's move to the next question.
Remaining questions: 2

Score Board

thurisatic: 425

Question #6

What does ASCII stand for?

[green pelican]

bru

[carmine apex]

ffs

[median dome]

20s left!

[green pelican]

american standard character i i

[carmine apex]

american standard council for information interchange

[median dome]

@carmine apex got the correct answer :tada: 75 points!

You got it! The correct answer is **`American Standard Code for Information Interchange`**

Let's move to the next question.
Remaining questions: 1

Score Board

thurisatic: 500

Question #7

What does the "a" represent in a HSLA color value?

[carmine apex]

alpha

[median dome]

@carmine apex got the correct answer :tada: 100 points!

You got it! The correct answers are **`transparency, translucency, alpha value, alpha channel, alpha`**

Remaining questions: 0

[green pelican]

aplpha

[median dome]

Score Board

thurisatic: 600

The round has ended.

@carmine apex Congratulations on winning this quiz game with a grand total of 600 points :tada:

[green pelican]

ok you got lucky

.quiz cs

[carmine apex]

bro was lucky

[median dome]

Quiz game Starting!!

Each game consists of 7 questions.
Rules :
1: No cheating and have fun!
2: Points for each question reduces by 25 after 10s or after a hint. Total time is 30s per question
Category : cs

Question #1

What are the components of digital devices that make up logic gates called?

[green pelican]

trhis one ill win

[carmine apex]

that was a complete guess

[green pelican]

or gates

[carmine apex]

transistors

[median dome]

@carmine apex got the correct answer :tada: 100 points!

You got it! The correct answer is **`transistors`**

Let's move to the next question.
Remaining questions: 6

Score Board

thurisatic: 100

[green pelican]

fuck

[median dome]

Question #2

How many bits are in a TCP checksum header?

[green pelican]

16

[median dome]

@green pelican got the correct answer :tada: 100 points!

You got it! The correct answers are **`16, sixteen`**

Let's move to the next question.
Remaining questions: 5

Score Board

thurisatic: 100
certified_cli_lover: 100

Question #3

What is computing capable of performing exaFLOPS called?

[green pelican]

IM CRAY

ZY

[carmine apex]

exascale

[median dome]

@carmine apex got the correct answer :tada: 100 points!

You got it! The correct answers are **`exascale computing, exascale`**

Let's move to the next question.
Remaining questions: 4

Score Board

thurisatic: 200
certified_cli_lover: 100

Question #4

What algorithm yields accurate RTT measurements in TCP?

[green pelican]

:|

[median dome]

20s left!

[low chasm]

h

[median dome]

10s left!

No one answered correctly!

The correct answers are **`Karn, Karn-Partridge`**

Let's move to the next question.
Remaining questions: 3

[carmine apex]

network cert is kinda lagging, eh, cert

[median dome]

Score Board

thurisatic: 200
certified_cli_lover: 100

Question #5

In quantum computing, what is the full name of "qubit"?

[carmine apex]

quantum bit

[low chasm]

quantum numerical bit

[green pelican]

cheater

[median dome]

20s left!

[carmine apex]

quantum binary digit

[median dome]

@carmine apex got the correct answer :tada: 75 points!

You got it! The correct answer is **`quantum binary digit`**

Let's move to the next question.
Remaining questions: 2

Score Board

thurisatic: 275
certified_cli_lover: 100

[low chasm]

quantum byte

[median dome]

Question #6

A hypothetical point in time at which technological growth becomes uncontrollable and irreversible, resulting in unforeseeable changes to human civilization is termed as...?

[carmine apex]

mfer

singularity

[median dome]

@carmine apex got the correct answer :tada: 100 points!

You got it! The correct answers are **`technological singularity, singularity`**

Let's move to the next question.
Remaining questions: 1

Score Board

thurisatic: 375
certified_cli_lover: 100

[green pelican]

signularity

[low chasm]

singularity

[green pelican]

FUJKCJ

[median dome]

Question #7

What is an interpreter capable of interpreting itself called?

[low chasm]

bootstrapped

[green pelican]

WHAT

bootstrapping

[low chasm]

hm

[green pelican]

bootstrap

[carmine apex]

bootsrapping interpreter

[median dome]

20s left!

[green pelican]

boot

[carmine apex]

bootstrapping interpreter

[median dome]

10s left!

[green pelican]

bootstrapped interpreter

[low chasm]

bootstrapping doesn't really apply to interpreters does it

[median dome]

No one answered correctly!

The correct answer is **`metainterpreter`**

Remaining questions: 0

Score Board

thurisatic: 375
certified_cli_lover: 100

[green pelican]

oml

[median dome]

The round has ended.

@carmine apex Congratulations on winning this quiz game with a grand total of 375 points :tada:

[carmine apex]

uh huh

[green pelican]

what a joke

[low chasm]

theres bootstrapped compilers

.trivia python

[median dome]

Quiz game Starting!!

Each game consists of 7 questions.
Rules :
1: No cheating and have fun!
2: Points for each question reduces by 25 after 10s or after a hint. Total time is 30s per question
Category : python

[green pelican]

ok this One

[median dome]

Question #1

Which year was Python 3 released?

[green pelican]

i love python

[low chasm]

1998

2008

[median dome]

@low chasm got the correct answer :tada: 100 points!

You got it! The correct answer is **`2008`**

Let's move to the next question.
Remaining questions: 6

[green pelican]

2002

[median dome]

Score Board

aboominister: 100

Question #2

Is the __aiter__ method async (y/n)?

[green pelican]

y

[low chasm]

n

[median dome]

@low chasm got the correct answer :tada: 100 points!

You got it! The correct answers are **`n, no`**

Let's move to the next question.
Remaining questions: 5

Score Board

aboominister: 200

Question #3

Which standard library module is designed for making simple parsers for languages like shell, as well as safe quoting of strings for use in a shell?

[green pelican]

ok

[low chasm]

shlex

[median dome]

@low chasm got the correct answer :tada: 100 points!

You got it! The correct answer is **`shlex`**

Let's move to the next question.
Remaining questions: 4

Score Board

aboominister: 300

[green pelican]

ok

[median dome]

Question #4

What common operation does this function implement?

import math

def mystery(x: float) -> float:
    return math.copysign(abs(x) + 2**52 - 2**52, x)

[carmine apex]

round

[median dome]

@carmine apex got the correct answer :tada: 100 points!

You got it! The correct answer is **`round`**

Let's move to the next question.
Remaining questions: 3

[green pelican]

power

[median dome]

Score Board

aboominister: 300
thurisatic: 100

Question #5

Can you pickle a running list_iterator (y/n)?

[green pelican]

oops

[carmine apex]

y

[low chasm]

n

[median dome]

@carmine apex got the correct answer :tada: 100 points!

You got it! The correct answers are **`y, yes`**

Let's move to the next question.
Remaining questions: 2

[carmine apex]

n

[median dome]

Score Board

aboominister: 300
thurisatic: 200

[green pelican]

n

[median dome]

Question #6

What common operation does this function implement?

def mystery(n: int) -> int:
    return (n>>1<<1)^n

[green pelican]

bitwise

bitrwise opwentoerjf

sn

wsfkoe

[low chasm]

💀

[median dome]

20s left!

[carmine apex]

floor

[green pelican]

kioll me

[carmine apex]

ceil

[median dome]

10s left!

[carmine apex]

yer ded now

[green pelican]

i hate this game

[low chasm]

power

[median dome]

Better luck next time...

The correct answer is **`is odd`**

Let's move to the next question.
Remaining questions: 1

[low chasm]

squares

[median dome]

Score Board

aboominister: 300
thurisatic: 200

Question #7

Name the only non-dunder method of the builtin slice object.

[green pelican]

slice

nah

[median dome]

20s left!

[low chasm]

indices

[median dome]

@low chasm got the correct answer :tada: 75 points!

You got it! The correct answer is **`indices`**

Remaining questions: 0

Score Board

aboominister: 375
thurisatic: 200

[carmine apex]

non-dunder

[median dome]

The round has ended.

@low chasm Congratulations on winning this quiz game with a grand total of 375 points :tada:

[low chasm]

hah

[green pelican]

oh

see

not my fault

[carmine apex]

cap

[green pelican]

you're talking to a community college graudate

watch yourself

[carmine apex]

too busy ignoring you

[green pelican]

bru

hhhh

my h key is broken

[carmine apex]

clearly

you wanna lose at a science quiz

[green pelican]

no it doesnt work if i hit it after a nother key

yeah

win you mean

[carmine apex]

.quiz science

[median dome]

Quiz game Starting!!

Each game consists of 7 questions.
Rules :
1: No cheating and have fun!
2: Points for each question reduces by 25 after 10s or after a hint. Total time is 30s per question
Category : science

[green pelican]

ok

[median dome]

Question #1

What is the intermolecular force caused by temporary and induced dipoles?

[carmine apex]

ah fug

[green pelican]

OH

[carmine apex]

van der waals

[median dome]

20s left!

[green pelican]

themodynamics

[carmine apex]

[green pelican]

molecule

[median dome]

10s left!

[green pelican]

hypocondria

mitocondria

[median dome]

Better luck next time...

The correct answers are **`LDF, London dispersion, London dispersion force`**

Let's move to the next question.
Remaining questions: 6

No one has made it onto the leaderboard yet.

[green pelican]

thought i had it

[median dome]

Question #2

The type of rock that is formed by the accumulation or deposition of mineral or organic particles at the Earth's surface, followed by cementation, is called...

[green pelican]

obsidian

[carmine apex]

sedimentary

[green pelican]

granite

[median dome]

@carmine apex got the correct answer :tada: 100 points!

You got it! The correct answers are **`sedimentary, sedimentary rock`**

Let's move to the next question.
Remaining questions: 5

Score Board

thurisatic: 100

[green pelican]

ah

[median dome]

Question #3

When DNA is unzipped, two strands are formed. What are they called (separate both answers by the word "and")?

[low chasm]

RNA

[carmine apex]

leading and lagging

[median dome]

@carmine apex got the correct answer :tada: 100 points!

You got it! The correct answers are **`leading and lagging, leading strand and lagging strand`**

Let's move to the next question.
Remaining questions: 4

Score Board

thurisatic: 200

Question #4

In particle physics, the hypothetical isolated elementary particle with only one magnetic pole is termed as...

[green pelican]

i hate you

[carmine apex]

monopole

[green pelican]

single

[median dome]

20s left!

[carmine apex]

magnetic monopole

[median dome]

@carmine apex got the correct answer :tada: 75 points!

You got it! The correct answer is **`magnetic monopole`**

Let's move to the next question.
Remaining questions: 3

Score Board

thurisatic: 275

Question #5

What is the universal force discovered by Newton that causes objects with mass to attract each other called?

[carmine apex]

[green pelican]

i hate you

[carmine apex]

gravity

[median dome]

@carmine apex got the correct answer :tada: 100 points!

You got it! The correct answer is **`gravity`**

Let's move to the next question.
Remaining questions: 2

Score Board

thurisatic: 375

Question #6

The Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle states that the position and ________ of a quantum object can't be both exactly measured at the same time.

[carmine apex]

momentum

[median dome]

@carmine apex got the correct answer :tada: 100 points!

You got it! The correct answers are **`velocity, momentum`**

Let's move to the next question.
Remaining questions: 1

Score Board

thurisatic: 475

[green pelican]

big

[median dome]

Question #7

Is the Richter scale (common earthquake scale) linear or logarithmic?

[green pelican]

linear

[low chasm]

logarithmic

[median dome]

@low chasm got the correct answer :tada: 100 points!

[carmine apex]

logarithmic

[median dome]

You got it! The correct answer is **`logarithmic`**

Remaining questions: 0

[low chasm]

linear

[median dome]

Score Board

thurisatic: 475
aboominister: 100

[green pelican]

fuck

[median dome]

The round has ended.

@carmine apex Congratulations on winning this quiz game with a grand total of 475 points :tada:

[carmine apex]

thief

[green pelican]

oh boy

.quiz help

[median dome]

The available question categories are:

• General: Test your general knowledge.
• Retro: Questions related to retro gaming.
• Math: General questions about mathematics ranging from grade 8 to grade 12.
• Science: Put your understanding of science to the test!
• Cs: A large variety of computer science questions.
• Python: Trivia on our amazing language, python!

If a category is not chosen, a random one will be selected.

[green pelican]

.quiz general

[median dome]

Quiz game Starting!!

Each game consists of 7 questions.
Rules :
1: No cheating and have fun!
2: Points for each question reduces by 25 after 10s or after a hint. Total time is 30s per question
Category : general

[green pelican]

this is my fomain

domain

[median dome]

Question #1

Which country is Mount Etna, one of the most active volcanoes in the world, located?

[carmine apex]

italy

[median dome]

@carmine apex got the correct answer :tada: 100 points!

You got it! The correct answer is **`Italy`**

Information
Mount Etna is the highest volcano in Europe. Towering above the city of Catania on the island of Sicily, it has been growing for about 500,000 years and is in the midst of a series of eruptions that began in 2001.

Let's move to the next question.
Remaining questions: 6

Score Board

thurisatic: 100

[green pelican]

i6talyt

[median dome]

Question #2

What's the name of the largest bird?

[low chasm]

seagull

[green pelican]

ostridge

[carmine apex]

wandering albatross

albatross

[low chasm]

ostritch

[median dome]

@low chasm got the correct answer :tada: 100 points!

You got it! The correct answer is **`Ostrich`**

Information
The largest living bird, a member of the Struthioniformes, is the ostrich (Struthio camelus), from the plains of Africa and Arabia. A large male ostrich can reach a height of 2.8 metres (9.2 feet) and weigh over 156 kilograms (344 pounds).

Let's move to the next question.
Remaining questions: 5

Score Board

thurisatic: 100
aboominister: 100

[green pelican]

FUCK

[low chasm]

hah

[median dome]

Question #3

Which country is known as the "Land of Thunderbolt"?

[green pelican]

MY LIFE

[carmine apex]

greece

[median dome]

20s left!

[low chasm]

china

india

[green pelican]

god

[carmine apex]

japan

[median dome]

10s left!

[green pelican]

USA

[carmine apex]

god is not a country bro

[low chasm]

mexico

[green pelican]

🦅

POLAND

[carmine apex]

norway

[median dome]

No one answered correctly!

The correct answer is **`Bhutan`**

Information
Bhutan is known as the "Land of Thunder Dragon" or "Land of Thunderbolt" due to the violent and large thunderstorms that whip down through the valleys from the Himalayas. The dragon reference was due to people thinking the sparkling light of thunderbolts was the red fire of a dragon.

Let's move to the next question.
Remaining questions: 4

Score Board

thurisatic: 100
aboominister: 100

[green pelican]

RUSSIA

[median dome]

Question #4

What country is called "Land of White Elephants"?

[low chasm]

china

[carmine apex]

brunei

[low chasm]

south africa

[green pelican]

africa

[carmine apex]

malaysia

[low chasm]

saudi arabia

[green pelican]

L:OL

[carmine apex]

burma

[median dome]

20s left!

[green pelican]

I SAID AFRICA

[low chasm]

💀

[green pelican]

ban me

please ban me

[carmine apex]

i have the general area correct

thailand

[median dome]

@carmine apex got the correct answer :tada: 75 points!

You got it! The correct answer is **`Thailand`**

Information
White elephants were regarded to be holy creatures in ancient Thailand and some other countries. Today, white elephants are still used as a symbol of divine and royal power in the country. Ownership of a white elephant symbolizes wealth, success, royalty, political power, wisdom, and prosperity.

Let's move to the next question.
Remaining questions: 3

Score Board

thurisatic: 175
aboominister: 100

Question #5

When did the Second World War end?

[low chasm]

hah

[carmine apex]

1945

[median dome]

@carmine apex got the correct answer :tada: 100 points!

You got it! The correct answer is **`1945`**

Information
World War 2 ended with the unconditional surrender of the Axis powers. On 8 May 1945, the Allies accepted Germany's surrender, about a week after Adolf Hitler had committed suicide. VE Day – Victory in Europe celebrates the end of the Second World War on 8 May 1945.

Let's move to the next question.
Remaining questions: 2

Score Board

thurisatic: 275
aboominister: 100

[low chasm]

1945

[median dome]

Question #6

Which country is called "Battleground of Europe?"

[low chasm]

🥀

germanh

[carmine apex]

france

germany

[low chasm]

italy

[carmine apex]

russia

[median dome]

20s left!

[carmine apex]

poland

[low chasm]

austria

[green pelican]

poland

[carmine apex]

britain

[median dome]

10s left!

[carmine apex]

belgium

[low chasm]

united kingdom

[median dome]

@carmine apex got the correct answer :tada: 50 points!

You got it! The correct answer is **`Belgium`**

Information
Belgium has been the "Battleground of Europe" since the Roman Empire as it had no natural protection from its larger neighbouring countries. The battles of Oudenaarde, Ramillies, Waterloo, Ypres and Bastogne were all fought on Belgian soil.

Let's move to the next question.
Remaining questions: 1

Score Board

thurisatic: 325
aboominister: 100

Question #7

In which country is Bali located in?

[carmine apex]

first try

[low chasm]

indonesia

[median dome]

@low chasm got the correct answer :tada: 100 points!

You got it! The correct answer is **`Indonesia`**

Remaining questions: 0

Score Board

thurisatic: 325
aboominister: 200

[low chasm]

hah

[median dome]

The round has ended.

@carmine apex Congratulations on winning this quiz game with a grand total of 325 points :tada:

[green pelican]

close one that time

[low chasm]

.quiz python 1

[median dome]

Quiz game Starting!!

Each game consists of 1 questions.
Rules :
1: No cheating and have fun!
2: Points for each question reduces by 25 after 10s or after a hint. Total time is 30s per question
Category : python

Question #1

What is the minimum number of comparison methods a class must implement to support total ordering?

[green pelican]

2

[median dome]

@green pelican got the correct answer :tada: 100 points!

[low chasm]

2

[median dome]

You got it! The correct answer is **`2`**

Remaining questions: 0

Score Board

certified_cli_lover: 100

[green pelican]

AHAHAHAH

[median dome]

The round has ended.

@green pelican Congratulations on winning this quiz game with a grand total of 100 points :tada:

[low chasm]

wow

[green pelican]

complete guess

[carmine apex]

.quiz retro

[median dome]

Quiz game Starting!!

Each game consists of 7 questions.
Rules :
1: No cheating and have fun!
2: Points for each question reduces by 25 after 10s or after a hint. Total time is 30s per question
Category : retro

[green pelican]

get cooked "admin"

[carmine apex]

get cooked

[median dome]

Question #1

What is the best selling game on the Nintendo GameCube?

[green pelican]

mario

[low chasm]

mario

[carmine apex]

super mario bros

[low chasm]

super smash bros

[median dome]

@low chasm got the correct answer :tada: 100 points!

You got it! The correct answer is **`Super Smash Bros`**

Let's move to the next question.
Remaining questions: 6

Score Board

aboominister: 100

Question #2

What did Nintendo make before video games and toys?

[green pelican]

card games

[low chasm]

playing cards

[carmine apex]

handa cards

[low chasm]

cards

card games

[median dome]

**Hint #1
**They were used alternatively to playing cards.

[carmine apex]

hanafunda cards

[green pelican]

board games

[median dome]

@carmine apex got the correct answer :tada: 75 points!

You got it! The correct answers are **`Hanafuda, Hanafuda cards`**

Let's move to the next question.
Remaining questions: 5

[low chasm]

??

[median dome]

Score Board

aboominister: 100
thurisatic: 75

Question #3

Who was Nintendo's biggest competitor in 1990?

[low chasm]

sega

[carmine apex]

sega

[median dome]

@low chasm got the correct answer :tada: 100 points!

You got it! The correct answer is **`Sega`**

Let's move to the next question.
Remaining questions: 4

Score Board

aboominister: 200
thurisatic: 75

[green pelican]

sony

[median dome]

Question #4

What is Yoshi's (from Mario Bros.) full name?

[green pelican]

oh yeah

[low chasm]

yoshiwaru

[green pelican]

thurismom

[carmine apex]

ugh not this one 😔

[median dome]

**Hint #1
**It was revealed in the Nintendo Character Guide in 1993.

[low chasm]

yoshiasaurus

[carmine apex]

yoshisaurus muchakoopas

[median dome]

@carmine apex got the correct answer :tada: 75 points!

You got it! The correct answer is **`Yoshisaur Munchakoopas`**

Let's move to the next question.
Remaining questions: 3

Score Board

aboominister: 200
thurisatic: 150

Question #5

What was the first game Yoshi appeared in?

[green pelican]

mIRO

[low chasm]

super mario world

[median dome]

@low chasm got the correct answer :tada: 100 points!

You got it! The correct answer is **`Super Mario World`**

Let's move to the next question.
Remaining questions: 2

Score Board

aboominister: 300
thurisatic: 150

[green pelican]

mario

[median dome]

Question #6

What year was Tetris released?

[green pelican]

1983

[carmine apex]

1984

[median dome]

@carmine apex got the correct answer :tada: 100 points!

You got it! The correct answer is **`1984`**

Let's move to the next question.
Remaining questions: 1

[low chasm]

1992

[median dome]

Score Board

aboominister: 300
thurisatic: 250

[green pelican]

`9328

[carmine apex]

literally

[median dome]

Question #7

What was Mario's original occupation?

[low chasm]

plubmer

[carmine apex]

plumber

[green pelican]

pluhbmer

[low chasm]

plumber

[green pelican]

plumer\

[carmine apex]

carpenter

[median dome]

@carmine apex got the correct answer :tada: 100 points!

You got it! The correct answer is **`Carpenter`**

Remaining questions: 0

Score Board

thurisatic: 350
aboominister: 300

[green pelican]

FUKC

[median dome]

The round has ended.

@carmine apex Congratulations on winning this quiz game with a grand total of 350 points :tada:

[low chasm]

lmfao

[green pelican]

I CANT TYPE

[low chasm]

barel

[green pelican]

.quiz help

[median dome]

The available question categories are:

• General: Test your general knowledge.
• Retro: Questions related to retro gaming.
• Math: General questions about mathematics ranging from grade 8 to grade 12.
• Science: Put your understanding of science to the test!
• Cs: A large variety of computer science questions.
• Python: Trivia on our amazing language, python!

If a category is not chosen, a random one will be selected.

[green pelican]

.quiz math

[median dome]

Quiz game Starting!!

Each game consists of 7 questions.
Rules :
1: No cheating and have fun!
2: Points for each question reduces by 25 after 10s or after a hint. Total time is 30s per question
Category : math

[green pelican]

THIS IS MY DOMAIN

[carmine apex]

cap

[median dome]

Question #1

BASE TWO QUESTION: Calculate 1110 * 1110

[green pelican]

I LOVWE mATH

[carmine apex]

no

[green pelican]

129837192837123987

19812712

[low chasm]

it's binary gang

[median dome]

20s left!

[low chasm]

🥀

[green pelican]

oh

0101010101

10101010010101010011001010101

0101110101111010101

[median dome]

10s left!

[low chasm]

1110

[green pelican]

0111100000111111100000

[low chasm]

1111

[green pelican]

11101001

[low chasm]

1010

[green pelican]

01010101

[low chasm]

1101

[green pelican]

01010101

1010001

[low chasm]

1011

[green pelican]

11000011

[median dome]

Better luck next time...

The correct answer is **`11000100`**

Let's move to the next question.
Remaining questions: 6

No one has made it onto the leaderboard yet.

Question #2

What is the (0,0) coordinate in a cartesian plane termed as?

[green pelican]

0

[carmine apex]

origin

[median dome]

@carmine apex got the correct answer :tada: 100 points!

You got it! The correct answer is **`origin`**

Let's move to the next question.
Remaining questions: 5

Score Board

thurisatic: 100

[low chasm]

origina

[median dome]

Question #3

What is the highest power of a biquadratic polynomial?

[green pelican]

2987234

3

5

[low chasm]

8

[carmine apex]

2

[low chasm]

4

[green pelican]

7

[median dome]

@low chasm got the correct answer :tada: 100 points!

You got it! The correct answers are **`4, four`**

Let's move to the next question.
Remaining questions: 4

Score Board

thurisatic: 100
aboominister: 100

[green pelican]

9

[median dome]

Question #4

Prime numbers only have __ factors.

[green pelican]

2

[low chasm]

1

[median dome]

@green pelican got the correct answer :tada: 100 points!

You got it! The correct answers are **`2, two`**

Let's move to the next question.
Remaining questions: 3

Score Board

thurisatic: 100
aboominister: 100
certified_cli_lover: 100

[low chasm]

2

[green pelican]

AHAHHA

[median dome]

Question #5

In statistics, what does this formula represent?

[green pelican]

I NKNEWI T

[low chasm]

logarithmic mean

[carmine apex]

standard deviation

[median dome]

20s left!

[carmine apex]

variance

[green pelican]

algebtra

algebra

math

[low chasm]

what happened to your domain gang

[green pelican]

square root

[carmine apex]

variance of a population

[median dome]

10s left!

[low chasm]

variance

[green pelican]

n -1

[low chasm]

variation

[green pelican]

n

SUMMATION

[median dome]

Better luck next time...

[carmine apex]

sample variance

[median dome]

The correct answers are **`sample standard deviation, standard deviation of a sample`**

Let's move to the next question.
Remaining questions: 2

Score Board

thurisatic: 100
aboominister: 100
certified_cli_lover: 100

[green pelican]

I KNOW THAT ONE

[low chasm]

lmfao

[median dome]

Question #6

In set builder notation, what does {p/q | q ≠ 0, p & q ∈ Z} represent?

[green pelican]

1

[median dome]

20s left!

[green pelican]

true

[low chasm]

hm

[green pelican]

ohh

set builder notation

[low chasm]

rational numbers

[median dome]

@low chasm got the correct answer :tada: 75 points!

[carmine apex]

subtraction

[median dome]

You got it! The correct answers are **`Rationals, Rational Numbers`**

Let's move to the next question.
Remaining questions: 1

Score Board

aboominister: 175
thurisatic: 100
certified_cli_lover: 100

Question #7

Which theorem states that hypotenuse^2 = base^2 + height^2?

[carmine apex]

pythagorean

[median dome]

@carmine apex got the correct answer :tada: 100 points!

You got it! The correct answers are **`Pythagorean's, Pythagorean's theorem`**

Remaining questions: 0

Score Board

thurisatic: 200
aboominister: 175
certified_cli_lover: 100

[low chasm]

pygathorgian

[median dome]

The round has ended.

@carmine apex Congratulations on winning this quiz game with a grand total of 200 points :tada:

[green pelican]

good game

[low chasm]

what happened to your domain 🥀

[green pelican]

bro

trust the process

[carmine apex]

there ain't a networking category

[green pelican]

id fail the shit out of that

[low chasm]

we should make one actually

that would be fun

[green pelican]

i cant do tests dog

oh a cybersecurity one though

i made one

[carmine apex]

pr when, then, aboo

[green pelican]

nobody would PR it for me though

[low chasm]

if you've already got the questions done i dont see why not

just open an issue

[green pelican]

i dont have a github accout

i lost the quiz

[carmine apex]

no cert

[green pelican]

ok i found it buts its kinda ass

[carmine apex]

you lost like 6 quizes

[green pelican]

hey thuri

[carmine apex]

lemme guess: you'll destroy me?

[green pelican]

nononono

i have a windows10 optimizer for you i made it myself as a gift

its in powershell

can you run it

:)

[carmine apex]

show the code bro

[green pelican]

ok

uh

i cannot

in this server unfortunately

proprietary software sorry

[carmine apex]

uh huh

[green pelican]

yeah

i can encode it for you though

[carmine apex]

is this kinda low-quality 12-year-old-tier "hackware" that just does echo tree or something

[green pelican]

for free

fish tell them its legit

[carmine apex]

who even owns quad10 anyways

oh rip

[green pelican]

huh

[carmine apex]

[green pelican]

my ip is 10.10.10.10

i need to fix my script

[carmine apex]

yeah well my ip is 104.104.182.2

come get me

[green pelican]

oh yeah well mine is 142.251.40.238

im open on port 443

[carmine apex]

yeah you are

tell your colleagues thanks for letting me access your computer

[green pelican]

NOOOOOOOOO

[carmine apex]

i aliased emacs to vim btw

[green pelican]

i hate you

[carmine apex]

also the ls binary got swapped with sl

hope that doesn't break anything lol

[green pelican]

what

[carmine apex]

are you not familiar with sl?

[green pelican]

ah

yes

the train

[vale raven]

Bro has account issues?

Sounds like a matter of skill

Art thou a capatcha failing robot?

[minor ferry]

who pinged

[uneven pine]

Who pinged

[minor ferry]

@ loch

i saw you preocts

[thick osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/digital-circus-the-amazing-digital-circus-caine-that's-weird-that's-a-weird-thing-to-say-and-want-gif-8995745254034143642

[uneven pine]

Saving that one

[thick osprey]

When you know the context, it's twice as powerful. :3c

[uneven pine]

I unfortunately don't

[thick osprey]

The Amazing Digital Circus by Glitch studios on youtube. Would recommend.

Though that might just be my own obsession speaking.

[minor ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/dhmis-dont-hug-me-im-gif-23391946

I am very skeptical of that name

[thick osprey]

me too

[green pelican]

Windows spending 5+ minutes on the welcome screen after logging in 😍

[tardy rain]

Recount

Also we should have voter id probably

If you have 100k messages in here you get to vote

[weak peak]

from: mariosis
98,796 results

[tardy rain]

Nuh uh

#ot2-never-nester’s-nightmare message

[green pelican]

Do !user

[tardy rain]

#bot-commands message

[green pelican]

He speaks the truth

[tardy rain]

I change my suggestion, only people with more than 109k messages can vote

[weak peak]

nah

they doctored that output

fake news

https://tenor.com/view/kai-cenat-kai-cenat-ban-him-kai-cenat-ban-him-ban-him-ban-him-ban-him-ban-gif-8658397593616220767

[tardy rain]

13621 messages having ahh

Little count big talk

[weak peak]

sorry I don't spend my entire day here 🥀

[tardy rain]

Apology accepted

[carmine apex]

broken ahh discord search

i see 110069

[green pelican]

Pwned the pydis bot

[carmine apex]

cap

[green pelican]

I will (legally)

[carmine apex]

cap

[green pelican]

I'm in my exploitation era

Port it to C so I can exploit a binary though

[weak peak]

https://tenor.com/view/kai-cenat-kai-cenat-ban-him-kai-cenat-ban-him-ban-him-ban-him-ban-him-ban-gif-8658397593616220767

[green pelican]

@carmine apex don't laugh at me you fool

Meet me at defcon 2028

We'll see who's laughing

[carmine apex]

https://tenor.com/view/bill-wurtz-how-bout-i-do-anyway-history-of-japan-gif-15710365

[green pelican]

You fool

https://tenor.com/view/case-caseoh-your-banned-you'e-banned-get-out-gif-7698576230662898937

[thick osprey]

Oh sweet. You'll be there?

[green pelican]

Idk ill go one year though

[thick osprey]

I'll get to meet someone from pydis and win a game of spot the fed.

[green pelican]

Ok ill go

@weak peak

Join us

[vale raven]

I call dibs on meeting you first

[minor ferry]

hello unc

[thick osprey]

sup

[vague skiff]

Hello

[solemn tulip]

https://youtu.be/Sa9L88diw20

[carmine apex]

bro wtf

68 hours?

[solemn tulip]

we can upper bound the length by 2*n_unique_words*original_video_length

[carmine apex]

pray tell
what is the precise value of n_unique_words

[solemn tulip]

idk, we can backsolve for it

[carmine apex]

jfc
the 1920x1080x25 version of this is 147 GiB

except that might be just the audio track? video-only of same state is 86 GiB

[solemn tulip]

!e

big_chonk = 2*24*3600 + 20*3600 + 20*60
small_chonk = 19*60 + 26
print(big_chonk/2/small_chonk)

[royal lake]

:white_check_mark: Your 3.14 eval job has completed with return code 0.

105.48885077186964

[solemn tulip]

err

[carmine apex]

is that alleging 105 unique words

[solemn tulip]

where did I math up?

[carmine apex]

was 2/small_chonk supposed to be in parens

[solemn tulip]

no

I'm confused

[carmine apex]

i do have an easier way to do this, though

!e

from datetime import timedelta as td
big = td(days=2, hours=20, minutes=20)
smol = td(minutes=19, seconds=26)
print(big/2/smol)

[royal lake]

:white_check_mark: Your 3.14 eval job has completed with return code 0.

105.48885077186964

[solemn tulip]

my bound is correct, no?

2x should be an upper bound

actually wait...maybe I am mathing very wrong

and my bound is incorrect

unique words don't contribute, words appearing >1 times contribute at 2x (at worst)

[carmine apex]

how exactly does this algorithm work

[solemn tulip]

so 106 different repeated words?

[carmine apex]

if words are a b c d a b c e, what does that become

[solemn tulip]

these segments count a second time

a b c a b c
------
  ------
    ------

and a more repetition case a repeats like

a b a c a d a
----
    ----
        ----

going by the script the number of actual repeated words is ~500

granted, with a very flawed hacky thing to calculate

from collections import Counter

s = open('script').read()

def normalize(w):
  return ''.join(c for c in w if c.isalpha()).lower()

counts = Counter(normalize(w) for w in s.split())
count_counts = Counter(c for c in counts.values() if c > 1)

print(sum(count_counts.values()))

well ok, my thing lower bounds the number of repeated words

it's a bad lower bound, but it's a lower bound

and the 2x is a horrible estimate

a lot of words are mentioned a handful of times, and they probably cluster together

making is more like 1 + ε

in any case, good timestamp
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sa9L88diw20&t=1922s

actually, I think that the video includes some padding with every repeat

that would account for some of my everything being off

[wooden silo]

I can't grasp what the rule is

Feels like it repeats multiple times for no reason

[harsh tundra]

Import timedelta as dt 💀

[carmine apex]

you saw nothing

[muted trail]

Just as a reminder:

Code that is generated by AI, cannot be copyrighted in the US.

All code that is generated that way (or any content, really) automatically enters public domain.

All licenses are invalid.

https://www.synthtopia.com/content/2025/03/20/ai-generated-works-are-public-domain-court-affirms/

https://www.dlapiper.com/en/insights/publications/2025/03/copyrightability-of-genai-outputs-in-the-us-key-developments

[jaunty wraith]

without human involvement
huge loophole

[gritty zinc]

new job for new CS graduates just dropped: mindlessly signing under each commit that Claude Opus 4.6 makes

[muted trail]

I don't think its very enforceable in practice anyway.

Still nice to know. 🙂

[wooden silo]

Seems like it'll just be down to how much you can pay your lawyers as usual

[thick ore]

just vibecode a B2B SaaS to do it for you

[pulsar heart]

didnt they steal every copyrighted work ever to train the LLMs in the first place

does copyright mean anything ,_,

[muted trail]

yes

no

copyright for the rich 😛

[fringe rain]

oh, this is a good thing right
so when companies AI generate entire TV shows then it wont be illegal to re-post the entire thing on youtube

but yeah the "without human involvement" is a pretty big loophole

[muted trail]

the question is, how you prove it

[pulsar heart]

and what does it even mean

[muted trail]

it would be interesting, who is here responsible to prove one way or the other

[pulsar heart]

if I prompt it, am I not involved ?

[muted trail]

No, it specifically says, prompts are not enough

In the US, mind you. The EU prepares a similar law, and the UK explicitly allows completely generated code to be copyrighted.

[pulsar heart]

the "prompt engineering" crowd in shambles rn

I do disagree with it tho

[muted trail]

See the legal statement of the responsible court: (also linked above)

https://www.dlapiper.com/en/insights/publications/2025/03/copyrightability-of-genai-outputs-in-the-us-key-developments

[muted trail]

Copyright is just more so than ever before a question of money to defend the case

[pulsar heart]

ya ig

not worth tryna look into the logic of it since its just money speaking

https://blog.peterkapartners.com/ai-generated-content-and-copyright-under-directive-2019-790-eu/

idk tbh

I think that if there is skill involved, there is a human factor

like a lot of ppl r much better than me at prompting the image gen bots. the difference is not in the bot, who is just a tool, it's in the person using it

[timid latch]

I do suppose it depends on the degree of skill.
prompting is really just providing a bit of guidance to a very random process, and random process you didnt design yourself.

can you copyright a random sequence created by throwing dice? what if you "prompt" the dice by making them weigthed, can you copyright the resutl then? "its a skill to weight the dice to get a sequence that you want"

[solemn tulip]

is a noise generation algorithm copyrightable?

[gritty zinc]

i think it'd be quite ridiculous to declare all AI-generated content to be public domain, since it'd be ignoring the contributions of the AI company who did the training, without whom it'd be impossible.
(Incidentally I don't particularly expect such laws to pass, because AI companies have a lot of money to spend on lobbying)

[solemn tulip]

it's just shaping randomness, after all

[pulsar heart]

but we not talking about a dice, we talking about something way harder to change the weight of

if I write a python script that uses randomness to make some sort of digital art

isnt the result something I made using my creative input

[timid latch]

right, thats the question the law has to answer

iirc the UK has said no to that in the past, let me see if I can find the case

and ofc all the search results are ai related

[pulsar heart]

and what about jackson pollock

used randomness to make art

[tardy rain]

None of this should be copyrightable and hopefully it all goes away eventually

[pulsar heart]

am i the only one having fun with this nonsensical stuff

[tardy rain]

Yea pretty much

[pulsar heart]

starting to feel lonely 😭

[timid latch]

@pulsar heart I suppose maybe one important factor is the time investment, creating that took time to setup everything, executing it etc.
while you can get a server farm to spit out thousands of ai generated images a day and if all that was copyrightable you could basically explore a lot of the image space and get a feasable copyright claim on basically any future image

[graceful basin]

didn't someone do that for music

just copyrighted every single chord progression or smth

[pulsar heart]

problem too hard for me

i will let judges decide and use whatever workaround they leave to protec my work

[timid latch]

and ofc theres the whole ethics side to the debate

[tardy rain]

Are prompt results reproducible

[graceful basin]

yea

[timid latch]

they are if you set the seed

[graceful basin]

it's just math, if you do the same math, you get the same result

[timid latch]

same way the result of random.randint are reproducible

[tardy rain]

How do you do that

[timid latch]

the apis and playground usually let you do it

[graceful basin]

depends on your LLM runtime

[timid latch]

the main user facing frontends generally dont

[graceful basin]

the model outputs some probability distribution of the next tokens

and you sample that

if you make that sampling process deterministic, you can always get the same result

[pulsar heart]

it is always deterministic since it uses pseudo random number gens

[jaunty wraith]

I don't think that's even available in most AI APIs' SDKs

so most people won't know that's a thing

[graceful basin]

yea, it's often quite hidden

[timid latch]

not direct sampling control, but the settings for it are (seed and temperature) often are

[tardy rain]

Why would they be hidden

[timid latch]

"UX"

[pulsar heart]

interesting how they say "mostly"

[tardy rain]

It would be quite weird for people to think of ai output as their work if they cant reproduce it

[jaunty wraith]

https://dylancastillo.co/posts/seed-temperature-llms.html

[timid latch]

yeah because if they update the model, or even just the library versions on their backend the output could change

[pulsar heart]

I refer back to the jackson pollock example

[graceful basin]

float errors are also probably not deterministic on modern GPUs

[tardy rain]

Thats not a clear cut case of mr pollock using a billion parameter model

Im pretty sure he picked up a paint brush and flicked some paint himself

[pulsar heart]

I doubt he could reproduce a lot of his works exactly

I mean, probably could actually

[tardy rain]

No but the human contribution is very obvious

Machines cant own property

Humans can

[pulsar heart]

idk I dont think getting the AI to give the image u want is that easy either

[tardy rain]

So you have to show your contribution besides "kind words in the prompt"

[minor ferry]

sounds abritary

[pulsar heart]

I feel I could make a pollock painting pretty easily tbh

[graceful basin]

why does pollock have a stronger claim to the effectively rng output of flicking brushes at random than a human does the rng outputs of putting words into a machine

[tardy rain]

Im sure everyone could, its not exactly art

[graceful basin]

yeah, pollocks are easy and fun to make

[timid latch]

okay lets put it like this.

if I commision an artist to paint something for me, and I spend a lot of time making sure I get the description of what I want perfect... do I get the copyright?

[graceful basin]

https://jacksonpollock.org/

[pulsar heart]

actually, maybe

[timid latch]

no you dont

[graceful basin]

takes a surprisingly long time to get real pollock-like coverage tbh

[pulsar heart]

artists have studios where they order around other junior artists

[timid latch]

your contract has to explicitly state that you get the copyright, otherwise the artist gets it by default

[minor ferry]

if buying isn't owning thne

[pulsar heart]

I think the person directing the art production still gets the rights, but idk

[minor ferry]

then