ot1-perplexing-regexing

[young flame]

Theres diff themes

[steep stirrup]

ahhhhh

yessss

that's amazing dude

do you ever intend to transfer it over to a server or keep it running on the mobile?

[young flame]

Look. Bio theme

[steep stirrup]

you might end up loosing data if your mobile blacks out yk

[steep stirrup]

yess, its the matrix themeee

[young flame]

I have ACID persistence to Google drive

Swear to god

Most overengineered discord bot

[steep stirrup]

hmm

i can see that

[young flame]

In the green one the creatures are slimey

[steep stirrup]

thermal stuff, runs on a mobile, uses mmap, and persistence on g drive

must be hard to actually maintain tho?

[young flame]

Surprising not really. I know my codebase well and I do Build With AI so its like having a codebase search engine. And then I have descriptions for everything so I Ctrl F what I need

[steep stirrup]

ahhhh

[young flame]

I mostly do systems thats my fav

[steep stirrup]

i am more of a traditional programmer in that sense

[young flame]

Yeah I was

Im published in programming for physics research

I just get bogged down and tired

So id rather architect and do systems

[steep stirrup]

haha, i think programming is the fun part, i wouldn't want AI to do the fun part for me

[young flame]

Yeah we are just diff haha. I think the theory and concepts and connecting systems is fascinating. Getting something to work that shouldn't. On 10 different fronts

Particle physics on phone
Thermal monitoring
ACID persistence
Particle physics cache coordination

Yes. Two simultaneous physics Sims on a phone...

Thats unbelievably satisfying. The like. Performance and how systems flow together

[steep stirrup]

yeaaa

[young flame]

Thats my fav

[steep stirrup]

that sounds like fun too

[young flame]

Yeah its just different and thats ok

[steep stirrup]

yessir

i suppose i enjoy computer science itself more than using computers for doing stuff

diving deep into how a cpu would work or how the program would optimize my code gets me the thrill i look for

[young flame]

I like edge computing and just in general, proving people wrong when im fairly sure im right

Ill back down if im wrong but the phone thing ive got data for

Regular servers would probably be really confusing to me. I like. Work with constraints first. Im not sure where id start if I didnt have something I had to be like. Ok nope can't do that

[steep stirrup]

hmm

[young flame]

Like my thermal system is because I rendered and spiked my battery 30° in 1 second and was like huh. Thermal is gonna be an issue

[steep stirrup]

your style of thinking is quite good

[young flame]

I appreciate it.

I studied physics so I try to break down the problem first

[steep stirrup]

i've worked with horrible laptops before. huge constraints. so i've been through that phase long enough to write efficient software now

[steep stirrup]

in comp science too, that's the first step

[young flame]

It makes you a better developer

[steep stirrup]

pretty much for all problem statements

[steep stirrup]

indeed does.

[young flame]

Im self taught. Ive taken 1 CS class. Lots of physics and math though

[steep stirrup]

i am self taught too

[young flame]

So is Lemon

[steep stirrup]

haven't taken up any university classes yet

really just a high school pass out

[young flame]

Lemon too. He told me

[steep stirrup]

cool

[young flame]

Now he's founder of this server

[steep stirrup]

this lemon fella is interesting

sounds cool

[young flame]

He hosted the launch of python 3.10 and is a python fellow. Founded this server. Still took time out of his day to give me a code review

Meant a ton to me

[steep stirrup]

whaaaat

[young flame]

Hes genuinely nice

Yeah I didnt know who he was at the time

[steep stirrup]

you mean he's the founder of this server

[young flame]

Just was talking

Yes

[steep stirrup]

pretty cool man

[young flame]

Look

That lemon. Hes genuinely nice

Hes a high school dropout too. Also self taught

Now he's CTO of a tech company and still took an hour to talk to me, complete stranger, and look at my repo

Extremely nice person

[glacial ferry]

where can i hire someone to do some blender scripting?

[young flame]

Very grateful

[young flame]

Probably #career-advice

@steep stirrup so yeah. We are in good company being self taught 👍

[steep stirrup]

yessir

wait let me see

i missed some of the chat

hopping around servers

[steep stirrup]

i m a pass out, not a drop out

[steep stirrup]

i can tell, the moderation standards of this server are insanely high quality

[young flame]

Ahh. The gist is that my first real human code review was from the founder of this server. Coolest thing

My mistake. Sorry.

[steep stirrup]

i've not seen such maturity in discord moderators otherwise

[young flame]

Yeah they're good

[steep stirrup]

no i totally get that feeling

i've never had anyone review my code yet i think

been mostly a self evaluation loop

[young flame]

Give it a shot. You might get surprising feedback. I got a genuine code review from lemon

High cyclic complexity

I defended with mobile constraints

He said my defense was incorrect but that python on mobile was novel.

We settled on looking more into the root cause for better understanding

I didnt know who he was then but in retrospect, if I hadn't just done it I would have been so nervous

[steep stirrup]

yea

i am not sure how i feel about sharing my github out here but i'll deffinately try to get a code review from someone i know irl

[young flame]

If you ever want my thoughts im pretty direct but kind. Ive been a physics teacher for a while

Preschool too

[turbid oyster]

95.217.112.247:26232 1.21.7 please join im bored and ts has been up for more than a month (continuously)

[steep stirrup]

dw, i much prefer direct feedback than sugar coated stuff

[steep stirrup]

what even is this

[young flame]

Yeah lmk

Bait of some sort I think. Looks sketch

[steep stirrup]

26232 sounds like a port for game

[steep stirrup]

i wouldn't dare open any links i get from discord like that

[turbid oyster]

95.217.112.247:26232 on mc 1.21.7

[steep stirrup]

cool, why not try it out on the mc discord?

[turbid oyster]

ive been there for a while yet i still cant text in lfg channels

[steep stirrup]

damn bro

i don't have mc and haven't played it much either so i m out :p

[young flame]

wanna try my bot btw? see the UI and such

[steep stirrup]

yea, dm me the server link

[young flame]

gotyu

[vapid nymph]

holy shit

https://github.com/pytest-dev/pytest/issues/1367

that's not a typo

this is fro m2016

finally implemented

[thick osprey]

Moving at the speed of open source. 10 years for someone to be annoyed by the missing support enough that they offered a solution.

Ronny says it quite well:

a key problem i see with unittest support is that it has no dedicated maintainer that loves unittest

[uneven pine]

Oh boy! I love session stealers!

[vale raven]

You use unittest?

[vapid nymph]

No no pytest-subtests was up streamed

[vale raven]

I’ve always been told that no one but CPython itself uses unittest.
I’ve always wondered if there will ever be an effort to migrate CPython to pytest or similar.

[thick osprey]

I see unittest in the wild. Pytest is just far more common.

[vale raven]

I’ve only ever seen it once or twice on long abandoned libraries

[vapid nymph]

I prefer pytest over unittest because it's prettier

And nicer

Actually I prefer nose

!pypi nose

[royal lake]

nose v1.3.7

nose extends unittest to make testing easier

Released on <t:1433236352:D>.

[vapid nymph]

Looks like Firefox could use nose

[vale raven]

I thought ward looked nice

[vale raven]

Have you tried using a properly funded browser?

[vapid nymph]

!pypi ward

[royal lake]

ward v0.68.0b0

A modern Python testing framework

Released on <t:1702940222:D>.

[vapid nymph]

You mean one that steals all my data like Chrome?

[thick osprey]

Uses Nightly build. It crashes. pikachu-shock-face.gif

[vale raven]

Yea man
Google needs your data to make my search results better

[vapid nymph]

Listen if u want me data I'll give it to u

[vapid nymph]

Huh, same release cadence as nose

[vale raven]

Hey

Mines almost a decade newer

[vapid nymph]

Speedy: Ward's suite of ~320 tests run in less than half a second on my machine.

That.... Doesn't seem like enough tests for a tester

[vale raven]

Well how many tests does your tester have?

how many tests could a tester test if a tester could test

[vapid nymph]

Pytest has at least 4k

[timid latch]

I mean it depends on what there is to test

[thick osprey]

And how many edge cases have been reported.

[vapid nymph]

True

[solemn tulip]

pytest does a lot more complicated stuff, doesn't it?

ast rewriting and whatnot

[thick osprey]

Pytest has a lot of "magic" features.

[vapid nymph]

That's what makes it so nice

[solemn tulip]

I don't like stuff that is too magic 😔

[thick osprey]

Yet you like jj. /j

[vapid nymph]

Ward seems to do the same in terms of magic

Extendable: Ward has a plugin system built with pluggy, the same framework used by pytest.
Dope

I'm working on writing tests for Monty right now lel

[solemn tulip]

semi-obscure japanese pun, huh?

[vale raven]

Tests for a Discord bot?

[vapid nymph]

Yeah

I have enough external apis and whatnot that I need to have tests for their parsing

[grave cove]

how are you going about doing that

[vapid nymph]

A lot. Of external apis.

[vapid nymph]

I gave up for now and will return later :3

[grave cove]

the age old conundrum

[thick osprey]

Sure. I'll take it.

I'm exhausted. I have creative writing to complete for the day. But at least I'm punny and I have pizza.

[vapid nymph]

I checked my Todo list for Monty (last updated in 2023) and it's pretty much all still on the to-do list

[vale raven]

What!?

Without me!?

GIMME THAT

[thick osprey]

Arrive, and you will be served.

[vapid nymph]

I still haven't done per user config

I rolled that out with no testing and finally rewrote it

I rewrite per guild config AGAIN

I have looked at bookmarks and done NOTHING

I have written some of ruff's documentation with config next

Wow I kept support for the delete button in EPHEMERAL messages???? Am I okay?

Right it shows up when it's redirected to use....... Oh my god I could but wait no I would need......

Damn

I would need to consider installation and invocation context plus permissions plus app permissions to determine if it'll be ephemeral ahead of time

Except if I did that then I would want to make it ephemeral but..... Ugh discord moment

I want that message on all embeds in a channel where the user doesn't have permissions, but it doesn't make sense to send a message non-ephemerally and depend on pre determining if the message will be ephemeral or not

[vapid nymph]

@coral void#0006 how fast?

[thick osprey]

You know, I respect that the dev of this tool said "Hey, I'm not your dad. You want to track negative work? Go for it."

[drowsy storm]

is this AI generated? i’m surprised considering it’s official promotional material of a documentary

apologies for the low res

[wooden silo]

Why do you think it is?

[turbid oyster]

in the past this could have been a reality due to the log4j exploit lol

[marble bay]

How does that look like laurie smh /j

[coral void]

Pretty slow when I'm doing other things :P

[uneven pine]

Session stealers still exist today. Log4j wasn't even the main way they work

[thick ore]

Bro

[jaunty wraith]

pros

• claude code

???

[vale raven]

This entire thing is bullshit

• cost doesn’t make something simple
• Claude runs on the dev’s laptop, not the server
• a vendor has the same pricing regardless of what tier you buy, if they’re predictable at a low tier they’ll be predictable at a higher tier too
• any server will run your process for as long as the process wants to run

The first con is the only bullet here that makes sense
A cheap VPS will get overwhelmed if your traffic suddenly scales drastically

But the rest of the cons are about app deployment, which has absolutely nothing to do with the cost of the hardware.
I’m going to use the same Ansible playbook for my $5 home lab VPS that I’m using on the $$$ servers st work, because they’re the exact same OS.

[jaunty wraith]

while you're here, do you remember why we kept the Dockerfile symlink to Containerfile when we moved to that?

[vale raven]

I said “why did you do that”
You said something along the lines of “people might expect it to be there”

So…. legacy reasons I guess

[jaunty wraith]

hmmmm

[vale raven]

Maybe Dependabot

[jaunty wraith]

oh

yeah, that

[vale raven]

Dependabot “supports” Containerfile now
But the PRs always fail with “access error: can’t write to invalid file type”
So you can’t actually use it

[jaunty wraith]

average dependabot L

[drowsy storm]

it kinda has that AI art style

purely based on vibes

[plush sun]

The portrait may be

Definitely not the title texts, I feel like AI "has" a font, and they're not that

[lament cairn]

higher quality

i wonder if it's the studio ghibli pissfilter that's making ppl think it's ai

[plush sun]

That's possible, but I can see them being like "it's a wooden portrait, let's make the image blend with wood"

The "new original documentary" kinda looks like that AI font

[lament cairn]

i think that's just a normal font

[plush sun]

I think you're right

[uneven pine]

It looks very AI to me

This is the shit that I hate

AI slop making us question even the most mundane things

[bright solar]

guys if ai is the focus what happens if we run out of fuel for the ai?

We need a bio-ai machine

[ripe grotto]

Looks like AI because of the false oil cracking design that it has with photoshopped logos and text over it. The text could've been done entirely in photoshop so it isn't random characters, but everything else could've been done by AI

[lament cairn]

Matrix (1999)

[bright solar]

Im scared

https://tenor.com/view/worried-kitten-shy-kitten-spy-cat-jiohiding-oh-noes-gif-14789175033945686421

[ripe grotto]

Afraid of what you don't understand?

[bright solar]

We would need to go into space and mine for fuel

[lament cairn]

ok look

ai isnt the only tech in the world

[bright solar]

To save the ai we must all become astronauts

[lament cairn]

if we ran out of fuel we'd be fucked

[bright solar]

Ai will help us become space oil barons

[lament cairn]

there's more than just ai that uses non-renewable resources

[ripe grotto]

I'm assuming you're just memeing - or not actually being serious.. or are you?

[bright solar]

i want meme to be real

[ripe grotto]

Why?

[bright solar]

i wanna be an astronaut when i grow up

[ripe grotto]

AI could make that impossible if Musk has anything to say about it

[bright solar]

Musk likes space

[ripe grotto]

No, he's a child

[bright solar]

why?

[lament cairn]

were you born into a rich family?

[bright solar]

no

poor

[lament cairn]

musk would rather see you dead, then

[bright solar]

https://tenor.com/view/kermit-kermit-the-frog-kermit-the-frog-meme-worried-kermit-sad-kermit-gif-2908512056935738589

[ripe grotto]

Or dismembered...

Well same same but different

[bright solar]

https://tenor.com/view/please-please-no-kid-cry-stop-begging-please-gif-18340503434168681475

How do you know this?

[ripe grotto]

I work in the industry, and AI is still a running joke

I'm a software engineer, focusing on infrastructure development for Machine Learning.. That includes consumer device ML integration

(I've also done some core infra stuff, that was extremely basic)

[lament cairn]

I might've exaggerated it, but I think when living on mars becomes a thing like musk keeps saying it will, the only people who'll be able to go there are the ultra rich

[ripe grotto]

I mean, he does. Considering he made Grok go full nazi, in effort to "adjust to a more favorable bias" for him.. https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/internet/elon-musk-grok-antisemitic-posts-x-rcna217634

Also, bro "saved" taxpayers about $35b by just telling people to not come to work for a week or two.. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/doge-cuts-cost-135-billion-analysis-elon-musk-department-of-government-efficiency/

Turns out, the government is kinda lean and needs the people it had. Otherwise it doesn't work, like, at all.

So yeah ultimately, I can keep going but he would definitely prefer to have the world's money, and be the only person ("spawn" as he'd otherwise be quoted) on the planet.. and idk, he just isn't smarter than a 5th grader (reference)

[thick osprey]

[refactor-tests 4c768f5] Futher refactor and cleaning of tests
 6 files changed, 197 insertions(+), 341 deletions(-)

Feels so good.

[glossy vector]

Hi there

It's Omar here

I'm Good at python

[thick osprey]

Hello there.

[glossy vector]

@thick osprey Hi

[glossy vector]

@thick osprey And you ?

[thick osprey]

And me what?

[glossy vector]

Your name?

[thick osprey]

Preocts. Pleased to meet you.

[glossy vector]

Thanks, Do you use linux in general ?

[thick osprey]

Yes I do.

[glossy vector]

For me, I use Arch Linux It's good if you want to customize every inch in your system

[thick osprey]

Glad you like it.

[glossy vector]

DO you use it

[thick osprey]

Daily? No. When I'm on a system that happens to be Arch? Yes.

[glossy vector]

Great

I have a project called clue and i want your opinon in it

https://github.com/omartech104/clue

I've sent an email to Linus Torvalds, to include it into gnu apps

[thick osprey]

Looks like an interesting project. You should write an install script that doesn't require the breaking flag for pip. I would avoid this tool because of this.

https://github.com/omartech104/clue/blob/0332575e4e4b4520aaca4be8044980d0cee71923/install.sh#L3

[royal lake]

install.sh line 3

pip install -r requirements.txt --break-system-packages```

[glossy vector]

thanks i'll modify that later

[thick osprey]

I'm also a little confused as to why you have a windows console clear when you also limit the use to linux only.
https://github.com/omartech104/clue/blob/0332575e4e4b4520aaca4be8044980d0cee71923/main.py#L24-L33

((I dislike it when things clear my console, so it caught my eye))

[royal lake]

main.py lines 24 to 33

def clear_console():
    if pltform == "linux":
        os.system("clear")
    elif pltform == "win32":
        os.system("cls")

while running:
    if pltform == "win32":
        print("This program only runs on Linux")
        break```

[glossy vector]

Oh, it was for testing cuz i was on a windows machine i'll change it now

done

check again

the repo

if you noticed it's for personal use

you can mod it as you like

[tardy rain]

If its for personal use why did you bother Linus

[glossy vector]

To be in each linux distro

it's a humble request

if he refues np

[noble crypt]

hi

[tardy rain]

Then it wouldnt be for personal use tho

And requirements go up

[undone granite]

Linus has no say in that

[glossy vector]

okay

thanks for clarifiying

can you just check the repo

[tardy rain]

Looks kinda small isnt it

Its a wrapper over curl cheat.sh/<command>

Is there a point to this

Maybe im too harsh

[glossy vector]

I use this api cuz it's simple and well documented

[thick osprey]

Heh. Nice.

-# So much more code to refactor and the project isn't even done yet.

[noble crypt]

nice

my record is

i

[vale raven]

felt cute, deleted the entire codebase

[solemn tulip]

wtf did you have commited? 🥴

[vale raven]

I had commits like this when my team committed their venv to deploy their repo from CI

[solemn tulip]

nuke their history, burn it with fire

[noble crypt]

i should of worried a bit more about this

something should of told me something was wrong when the git push command took 40 seconds to complete

sometimes in life

you got to be a bit more skeptical

[solemn tulip]

If it's recent enough you might want to nuke it from your history entirely

[young shoal]

node modules i guess

[noble crypt]

ooo

yeah I think this was my first vite project'

*project built with vite

[thick osprey]

My first guess was a lock file on a .Net app but ./node_modules also makes a lot of sense.

[thick osprey]

moar

[refactor-tests b0ab4bc] Refactor model tests
 3 files changed, 73 insertions(+), 223 deletions(-)

[frozen crane]

@carmine apex as languages develop more color terminology, I think red emerges first as district from "light" and "dark"

Somewhere along the way "grue" emerges

[carmine apex]

aye, i've heard that before, and the wiki page that fun police mentions the originating study and the alleged order of such things

[frozen crane]

When I took Latin and we learned color names, we were supposed to color in the actual color for each word, since they didn't directly map to modern color names

And then there aren't even direct mappings between modern languages

Or, you know, two people

[carmine apex]

ah, qualia 😔

[frozen crane]

Oh I don't mean that

[woeful phoenix]

My language has the same basic word for green and yellow

[noble crypt]

what language is that

[woeful phoenix]

Telugu

[frozen crane]

What color is this?

[noble crypt]

green-400

https://tenor.com/view/tailwind-saul-goodman-gif-6443997216880160348

[magic drift]

hello

can my site be reviewed for suggestions

[worldly ice]

this is a very nice color

[magic drift]

aah

[woeful phoenix]

Teal

[magic drift]

guys could you all review my site

[frozen crane]

And that's different from green-yellow?

[woeful phoenix]

Yeah, teal is green+blue
This doesn't seem very yellow at all

[frozen crane]

So there's a green-blue and a green-yellow? Is there also just blue?

[magic drift]

Man i have made a fun site called collatz scribbles
where you all can see magic of collatz conjecture on any number (1-10000)
please try and give reviews
it generates a collatz seqyence graph how number ends to 1

https://collatz-scribbles.onrender.com/

[frozen crane]

Also what color is this?

[woeful phoenix]

Oh, you mean in the language.
Well, we don't have a basic word for teal or green-blue. I would have to fall back to simply saying "green with blue"

[worldly ice]

hmm, not very close

[noble crypt]

try green 800

[worldly ice]

it's not going to be green anything

[frozen crane]

So of the two colors I've presented, would they both be considered "green-yellow" in telegu?

[woeful phoenix]

I think the first one would be more likely to be described as blue with some green(-yellow)
The second one is solidly "green-yellow" though

[frozen crane]

Interesting. Thanks!

[carmine apex]

ah, the combination of linguistics discussion and green. stel must be in heaven today

[noble crypt]

emerald-500

[worldly ice]

the closest is teal-800

[frozen crane]

Yep, and I'm laying in my green bed with my kitty

[worldly ice]

emerald is too green

[frozen crane]

Look at my kitty

[worldly ice]

[noble crypt]

my cat will allow me to pet him much longer if I use a back scratcher

[carmine apex]

the camera looks at the cat, but the cat does not look at the camera

[frozen crane]

He looks me in the eyes but he doesn't understand cameras

[thick ore]

don't change my cursor

the custom one is incredibly small

it practically disappears when i move it

[worldly ice]

definitely should disable user-select on a lot of that

[magic drift]

ok

[magic drift]

ok

[thick osprey]

On track.

[jaunty wraith]

that last stat is funny

[thick osprey]

Random stat every time I load the page.

[jaunty wraith]

what are the others?

[thick osprey]

During which the Earth will travel
52,471,793 km

During which your nails will grow
2.45 mm

During which you could walk about
1,556.42 miles

are a few

[jaunty wraith]

is nail growth rate the same for everyone? is that perhaps considering some average documented in some study?

it feels to me the latter seeing the walking stat

[vapid nymph]

is there an americanized eat cheeseburger one

[jaunty wraith]

depends on whether there's a documented "time taken to eat a cheeseburger"

[fallow tapir]

I don't speak his language, but in any language should be there bluish greens and yellowish greens. It's a distinction often made by folks in the arts

Dunno if I understood you perfectly there

[willow narwhal]

There isn't, not in every language

[fallow tapir]

Perhaps not words themselves, but the concepts I find it very hard not to exist

It's an arts thing

The color wheel is fluid, there is no hard endpoint for any color

Thus you could have a green that is bluer than the other

[willow narwhal]

There's not even a distinction between blue and green everywhere: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Blue–green_distinction_in_language

[fallow tapir]

Speaking as an artist myself. Lemme read it...

[fallow tapir]

Ah , it doesn't make what I said false

Because it's a language thing, rather than a perception thing. One can't expect that people can't see blue or green just because their language lack a word for it

Also, when you have refined perception, like an artist, you have to, that is a necessity, to understand color mixing

And for that one must add either more blue or more yellow to reach its desired greens

Even if you don't have words for them

[willow narwhal]

Not necessarily, yeah, but your perception is partly shaped by what your language can express. I wouldn't be too sure that you can really express it somehow in any language (I'd be careful with and claim about every language), but sure, I'm not saying that you necessarily can't express the concept you're describing if e.g. you have the same word for green and blue.

[fallow tapir]

About the perception partly shaping what one can express, let's do a thought experiment: if someone don't have a word for red, do we really expect that this person can't see red? Or see it altered?

Also, what about people like Amala and Kamala, that grew up speechless... I think it is unreasonable to expect they can't see the color spectrum as well as any other human just because they grew up without a language

[wooden silo]

Hm, isn't green-yellow called chartreuse?

[fallow tapir]

We Portuguese speakers don't have a word for verde vessie in common language

But anyone can see vessie green

[willow narwhal]

Of course they can see it, but you were talking about language.

[fallow tapir]

Lack of language doesn't map to lack of perception

I think we are speaking about different things?

[willow narwhal]

I didn't say "if you can't express it you can't see it", just that your perception is partly shaped by your ability to express things.

[fallow tapir]

If it's shaped, it's influenced. I confess I don't understand you expression.

It's the influenced perception part that I disagree with

[wooden silo]

I think there have been studies that show how we interpret and categorize based on color is influenced by the support we get from our language. Like, speakers of a language with no blue/green distinction will judge differences more directly based on color wavelength, whereas others will exaggerate differences that fall on either side of that language's color boundary, etc.

[willow narwhal]

(I'd be interested to see whether you could see a difference in e.g. response time or correctness when testing people in some color distinction task based on whether their language has more or less basic color terms.)

[wooden silo]

Or, speakers of a language with a light blue/dark blue distinction (like, entirely different color names) will be faster at distinguishing that split.

[wooden silo]

It seems like that's exactly the kind of studies that we have done.

https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.0701644104

[fallow tapir]

That's an interesting experiment.

Even if there was a difference - could it not be because of habits and "training" in categorization, rather than perception itself?

[wooden silo]

I don't think anyone's implying it's due to basic perception differences.

[fallow tapir]

I might have interpreted his comment wrongly then.

[wooden silo]

Although, I mean, the brain is weird.

[fallow tapir]

Well, in painters world, they have many more words to distinguish colors then your average person. And are much quicker and precise at it too.

[wooden silo]

If you grow up in a society where everyone makes a distinction between two shades of blue, and you always look at those colors and think and consider the distinction, it's possible that maybe your brain kinda rewires itself for that color distinction task.

[fallow tapir]

Anedoctical evidence, though

[wooden silo]

It won't perhaps change the physiology of your eye, but it might change the physiology of your brain.

And whether that's part of your "basic" perception or not is kinda vague.

[warped sentinel]

I also like to compare insults between english, american and non english based languages

[fallow tapir]

I agree that it might - I just can't believe it without a strong evidence

[timber dagger]

hi

[jovial oriole]

"Hi" ahh blud🤣✌️

"Hi"maxxing

🥀🥀

[uneven pine]

Don't you have some plain tuna to eat from a can?

[jovial oriole]

Already done❤️‍🩹

32 g of protein and 100% of daily selenium intake

✌️

[uneven pine]

Mercurymaxxing ahhh blud tuff rizzless

[jovial oriole]

🙏🥀💔

[stark prawn]

hmm maybe I should get some to add to my salads

[jovial oriole]

100% u should

not too much tho

Otherwise u will get addicted

[uneven pine]

And get Mercury poisoning

[jovial oriole]

Fair trade

[stark prawn]

worth it for the gains

[uneven pine]

X

[tardy rain]

Eat more salmon

Never heard of a grizzly dying of mercury poisoning

Why would we

[jaunty wraith]

we're not grizzlies

[tardy rain]

We could be

[jaunty wraith]

source?

[tardy rain]

Trust me bro

Turn bearpilled

[stark prawn]

It's still pretty good but tuna seems to have better macros

[tardy rain]

That is true

[jaunty wraith]

genius strat for when the girl chooses the bear

[tardy rain]

Turns out being a virgin incel fish riverspawner does that to a man

Yellowfin supreme

Too bad it smells like catfood

[stark prawn]

https://evrimagaci.org/gpt/military-deployed-as-bear-attacks-surge-in-japan-515538

[jaunty wraith]

seems like the attacks have become unbearable

[marble bay]

I hate how long it took for it to dawn on me

[weak peak]

can we ban this guy? /j

[uneven pine]

!otn a im-bearpilled

[jovial oriole]

Salmon should have even more mercury

Larger animals accumulate more

Skipjack tuna would have less

[jovial oriole]

Way better

I really like salmon for the fats tho, but mayonaise has similar. So i just have a tablespoon of mayo a day

Its good for your skin

[tardy rain]

Tuna is bigger

[jovial oriole]

Oh alr

I saw some massive salmon swimming upstream to lay once

[stark prawn]

I just supplement it

[tardy rain]

Tuna gets huge

Like 200kg huge

[jovial oriole]

My lateral raise warmup🥱

[tardy rain]

Imagine being in the UK, an island in the north atlantic, which left the EU partly to reclaim fishing rights

And you cant afford to eat fish often cause a salmon fillet is £6 for 250g

And tuna is even more expensive

[jovial oriole]

Rip

Tuna is 1.28 here

It used to be 98c

[stark prawn]

I just went to get some

was almost 2 per can

102g per can if you don't count the water

[paper sequoia]

The cheapest can of tuna I found, 99snt/can (105g, without water)

[weak peak]

https://tenor.com/view/jpg-paul-carter-leg-curl-hypertrophy-drmike-gif-5184997110515261128

Mr. Mike is tuff

[stark prawn]

He's the only human in existence strong enough to go to 0 RIR without the bar slowing down

[weak peak]

real

Stronger and leaner athletes run faster and jump higher or something idk

[weak peak]

Did you see the video he did with those military folk? Dude has like an 11 minute mile

🥴

[stark prawn]

Did you see his standing jump?

[weak peak]

No, but I can imagine it 💀

send it

[stark prawn]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/60fX7lPgRiI

idk about the rest of the vid

but this was the fastest i could find the clip

[tardy rain]

Can he jump to average male height?

[weak peak]

that is just because he is a solid 250 pounds of kobe beef

hard to move that around ig /s

[stark prawn]

Fair, if only he wasn't bigger than mike mentzer

[weak peak]

lol

[stark prawn]

I got some and added it to tomorrow's breakfast

[jovial oriole]

"I might be bigger than mike mentzer, but we'll never know. (blinks really hard) i'd rather do pushups in my quadrillion dollar gym"✌️🥀

[jovial oriole]

🐟

[rough sapphire]

Hello small humans

[jovial oriole]

"Hello small humans" ahh blud✌️🥀💔🙏

"Hello small humans" maxxed individual ❤️‍🩹

"Hello small humans" core🤞

[grave cove]

not tuff

[jovial oriole]

"Not tuff" ahh blud

https://tenor.com/view/tuff-sick-wow-wowsers-minecraft-gif-10059021701103936359

[vapid nymph]

hi zehata i saw that

unfortunately i'm not allowed to set my name to yours anymore

[lofty bolt]

waht

[thick ore]

wtf is a LocalContainerEntityManagerFactoryBean

i am never touching spring boot again

-# /j

[vestal oasis]

whyd i read the name of this channel like charlie kirk

anyway

[willow narwhal]

!warn 1252892945326276641 This is not an appropriate image to post here. Please re-read the #code-of-conduct and #rules.

[royal lake]

:incoming_envelope: :ok_hand: applied warning to @vestal oasis.

[jovial oriole]

https://tenor.com/view/staysafetv-matt-morse-matthew-morse-staysafe-world-of-warcraft-gif-14211289550070027659

[willow narwhal]

?

[jovial oriole]

https://tenor.com/view/godzilla-x-kong-king-kong-punch-knockout-monkey-apex-gif-8198598115822855198

[willow narwhal]

??

[winter echo]

1 question mark to 2 question shows how confused he really is

[paper sequoia]

Question mark overflow when

[winter echo]

????????????????????????

[gleaming forge]

Yooo

[undone granite]

yo

[gleaming forge]

so i have a core 2 duo computer , 4gb ram and a x64 architecture

i saw os have impacts on computer so i am trying to switch into linux mint (cinnamon edition).

I am afraid of my data.

[undone granite]

do you have an external drive?

[gleaming forge]

I have HDD.

i think 2 of them.

[undone granite]

in the computer right? what's their capacity?

[gleaming forge]

can you see that to identify ? i dont get this stuff.

[undone granite]

my honest advice is to backup your data outside of the computer since you're new to this stuff, that's the safest approach

[gleaming forge]

i really dont have outside of computer approach's.

which drive i really need to backup ?

[marble bay]

Anything with data on it

[gleaming forge]

Dont OS require only one disk ?

[marble bay]

2 partitions will do, but you won't believe how easy it is to wipe the wrong disk when you're inexperienced/not paying attention

From the partition names I'm guessing this is a machine you share with other people, I'd suggest trying wsl in that case instead of a dual boot

[gleaming forge]

i will just remove the second one during installation

[gleaming forge]

Just my family computer they dont need now.

Silence.

[undone granite]

yeah.. I don't think your family will like it if the data gets wiped

[gleaming forge]

which backup options are there without any external things ?

[marble bay]

the entire point of a backup is to be external

if there's less than 125ish gigs of data across both drives you could try to consolidate everything into a single drive

[gleaming forge]

maybe delete some data ? softwares that wont work on linux ?

[undone granite]

The other option is to free up some space and create a partition and choose that partition when you install Linux, but you could accidentally:

1. wipe all data by telling it to use the entire disk
2. wiping some data by choosing the wrong partition
3. choosing the wrong disk
   just be careful if you really don't have another option

but I wouldn't risk my data or my family's data if I were you

[gleaming forge]

Ok that settles it.

i will try to store some data to phone , cloud etc as much as i can.

[dreamy sable]

wtf windows 97?

[foggy bolt]

67

[jovial oriole]

67

I asked for todats homework and the gc sent this picture of the board😭🙏🥀

[vale raven]

Oh BTW there’s a typo

teh -> the
Right there in the middle

[jovial oriole]

Gng what?

[vale raven]

Are you saying you can’t read that?

[jovial oriole]

https://tenor.com/view/please7tv-please-beg-pray-hope-gif-3860103425950934673

[thick osprey]

@vale raven this is where I landed for now. Two methods, one for each type of goal. Not 100% pleased but it is good enough for a first iteration. ((good enough to find a bug in the API too!))

https://github.com/Preocts/trackbear-api/pull/35/files#diff-ace79d865c39fef3b20d23761c2a61be9aab1fca813898388c4fdecda11e8c32R66-R261

[vapid nymph]

I love finding API bugs

[thick ore]

who the hell thought of this api

})))));

[lament cairn]

Javascript

[thick ore]

why did they put javascript in my java

[ripe birch]

My condolences

[grave cove]

mb

[obsidian summit]

Disgusting

[valid geode]

i dont wanna say javascript...

but javascript probably

[acoustic moss]

that is the worst thing ive seen in my life

[jaunty wraith]

so far

[jaunty wraith]

looks like Java

or C#

actually, String.format is Java, I think

[tardy rain]

Well yea JS has no type declarations

I feel that bad formatting makes it a lot worse than it is

[jaunty wraith]

that interface is definitely ugly though

[tardy rain]

IntegerArgumentType.getInteger
StringArgumentType.getString
What the fuck bro

[jaunty wraith]

and the many .thens

[tardy rain]

The javapilled mind is poisoned to hell and back

[reef goblet]

Tf is happening

[low chasm]

I had to debug vibe coded JS the other day

damn did I miss having type information and actually reasonable introspection

[shell raptor]

vibe code TypeScript instead?

[low chasm]

might've been easier to debug

[stark prawn]

@grok translate this code from javascript to typescript

[grave cove]

its not any better

most of my typescript class project is vibe coded

[vale raven]

_hold my beer _

https://github.com/darbiadev/business-central-utilities/blob/main/src/TestActionsDarbia.Codeunit.al

[gray roost]

did you wrote this code ?

awesome

[vale raven]

Some of it
Contractors wrote the original using a deprecated API, then charged $10,000, then fucked right off.
3 months later when the dead API disappeared, my boss refused to hire them again, so it was to me to scramble to learn the platform to rewrite the broken parts

[vale raven]

https://tenor.com/view/chuck-devon-woodcomb-ryan-mc-partlin-not-awesome-gif-4201208

[gray roost]

no worries, that gives you knowledge

[bleak lintel]

how much of this is it wise to disclose in public forums lol

[lament cairn]

bro did Not sign an NDA

[bleak lintel]

implicit confidentiality !

[lament cairn]

i have the obligation to stay silent
but not the ability to

OH MY GODDD i have somethi g SO cute to show all of you

(Please automod dont nuke me)

[tardy rain]

What's wrong with him

[lament cairn]

Stupid

[bleak lintel]

https://streetcat.wiki/index.php/Stupid_Idiot

[jovial oriole]

"One point for you... one point for you!" Ahh scholarships✌️😭🙏

"Nuclear industry", "creative and original thinking"

💔💔

[ripe grotto]

“Creative and original thinking” and “Religious Activities” but nothing else selected probably indicates they were in a cult…as the cult leader

[jovial oriole]

😭

🥀🥀

"Covid-19","money","Fun & Games"

[ripe grotto]

Almost a cult

(I’m joking)

[jovial oriole]

✌️

What are ts applications bro

🙏

[ripe grotto]

Cringe, no doubt

Looks at VSC

[jovial oriole]

Im such a bum vro i gotta get more experience before i apply to ts

[shell raptor]

I don't think typescript is accepting new interns

[jovial oriole]

Haha vro is so funny

??? Yes im interested in scholarships?

[uneven pine]

what on earth is that LGBT one

that's just straight up fell asleep on the keyboard letter spam

[shell raptor]

it's an x86 assembly instruction

[soft violet]

Any much more than LGBTQI+ feels like it's taking the piss.

[carmine apex]

lesbian;
gay;
bi;
trans(gender), transvestite;
intersex;
queer, questioning;
2-spirit;
straight ally

had to look up the 2

[reef goblet]

Yeah fuck that I’m checking all these boxes

“So I see you came with your entire extended family today”

“Yeah my pet fish died and I showed immense resilience”

[smoky hearth]

lol haha that combination implies you create your own religion xD

[uneven pine]

I am a big proponent of either Q being catch all or just LGBTQ+.

[solemn tulip]

queer anonymous

[marble bay]

isn't that just "conversion therapy"

Heavy on the quotes

[solemn tulip]

oh wait, you meant stopping at Q

not just using Q

[solemn tulip]

it was a silly reference to some ass-hats calling themselves Q

[vale raven]

https://wikipedia.org/wiki/QAnon

I have absolutely no idea what’s up with those guys
They’re just insane

[paper sequoia]

@thick osprey I made the bread again 👀

5/5, little crust on the outside and soft inside, delicious kind!

I put icecube in the oven, not sure did it really do anything but I hope it did, also this time I measured with grams instead of DL so it wasn't too wet (could be also the water temp I guess) but it worked

[tardy rain]

What is the I in LGBTQI?

[marble bay]

Intersex

[soft violet]

https://tenor.com/view/both-jean-luc-picard-star-trek-the-next-generation-the-two-of-them-gif-23507453

[tardy rain]

I dont know what that means, hold up

[pine ember]

International

[marble bay]

https://isna.org/faq/what_is_intersex/

[pine ember]

Predestination?

[soft violet]

One possibility.

[marble bay]

I haven't seen it :(

[soft violet]

It's...something.

[tardy rain]

Intersex doesnt seem to fit with the rest of the labels

[soft violet]

I know what you mean, but it does in that it is a divergence from the...standard model.

[tardy rain]

Yea sure

[soft violet]

Have you seen the Korean Old Boy?

[marble bay]

I did some time ago

[soft violet]

Not the Hollywood one. That was a catastrophe.

[marble bay]

don't particularly remember it in vivid detail

[marble bay]

I have seen both

[thick osprey]

That's awesome! The dough really does make a fantastic crust.

[soft violet]

Predestination is that level of mindfuck.

[thick osprey]

.bm

[marble bay]

it is on my watchlist

eventually™

[raven cipher]

.bm

nice

finally, some good fucking function

[marble bay]

there's also .latex .wa !remind

[raven cipher]

latex?

why.

[marble bay]

.latex \LaTeX

[marble bay]

yes

[raven cipher]

.latex [
\text{If }
\begin{cases}
y(t) > y(t-1) \text{ and } y(t) > y(t+1), & \text{then } y(t) \text{ is a local maximum;} \[6pt]
y(t) < y(t-1) \text{ and } y(t) < y(t+1), & \text{then } y(t) \text{ is a local minimum;} \[6pt]
\text{otherwise,} & y(t) \text{ is neither.}
\end{cases}
]

[raven cipher]

hmm, Isee

[marble bay]

(wa is wolfram alpha)

[raven cipher]

what's that

[marble bay]

https://www.wolframalpha.com/

[raven cipher]

oh, like khancadem

[marble bay]

not exactly

it's more of a question answer thingy than an edu platform

.wa 4x^2 + 5x - 20 = 0

[median dome]

Wolfram Alpha

View original for a bigger picture.

[paper sequoia]

It indeed does! I hope I can save some to tomorrow, the bread I made earlier was gone in a day 😅

[raven cipher]

.wa d' = x^3+2

[median dome]

Wolfram Alpha

View original for a bigger picture.

[raven cipher]

I was gonna ask what's the derivitive of x^3+2

.wa f(x) = x^3+x^2, f'(x) =?

[median dome]

Wolfram Alpha

View original for a bigger picture.

[solemn tulip]

someone should make it render to a sensible image size

[prime lagoon]

a sam fisher joke in the title

[carmine apex]

@vale raven shennnnnnnnnnnn
apparently i need the dotnet sdk
give preferred version and acquisition method

[vale raven]

Uhhh
I do DevOps
I use Python

[carmine apex]

yes, and are tech support doggo

and microsoft doggo

[vale raven]

Which SDK?

I mean like
For video games or for work?

[carmine apex]

https://github.com/HaveIBeenPwned/PwnedPasswordsDownloader
suggests either
https://dotnet.microsoft.com/en-us/download/dotnet/9.0
https://dotnet.microsoft.com/en-us/download/dotnet/8.0, calling 8 the LTS version

[vale raven]

There’s only one distribution AFAIK

https://dotnet.microsoft.com/en-us/download

[carmine apex]

also, idk about direct or winget/choco/etc

[vale raven]

10.0 came out literally yesterday and it’s the new LTS

Not sure if I’d trust it yet

[carmine apex]

cannot be bothered to manually check all me passwords in keepass, and most plugins require the offline database

which apparently requires dotnet sdk to download

[vale raven]

Probably some CLI that just downloads a CSV or SQLite or something

Poke at the source

[carmine apex]

regardless

• which version would you recommend as ms it doggo of 8/9/10
• how would you download it

[vale raven]

https://github.com/HaveIBeenPwned/PwnedPasswordsDownloader/blob/main/src/HaveIBeenPwned.PwnedPasswords.Downloader/Program.cs#L135

[royal lake]

src/HaveIBeenPwned.PwnedPasswords.Downloader/Program.cs line 135

[Description("When set, writes the hash ranges into a single .txt file. Otherwise downloads ranges to individual files into a subfolder. If ommited defaults to single file.")]```

[vale raven]

Told you so

[carmine apex]

apparently 8 and 9 both hit eol next november

[vale raven]

Yeah I’d just grab the latest from the front page

[carmine apex]

not via some manager thingy like winget or choco or such?

[vale raven]

Especially because you’re goal oriented and don’t want to fuck with it
Just use the defaults and don’t cause yourself problems by trying to do something weird

[vale raven]

I mean sure
Go for it

https://devblogs.microsoft.com/dotnet/dotnet-now-on-windows-package-manager/

[carmine apex]

i thought you were a winget shill or something

[vale raven]

90% of the time, Winget just downloads the official exe/msi from the website and just runs it, same way you would

[stark prawn]

It's a wrapper around curl | sh?

[vale raven]

Kinda

It can do store apps and stuff too

But for most of the web stuff it just downloads the installers

Go run winget upgrade and watch it list all your Python versions
If you ask it to update one it will download python.exe from ftp.python.org

Which is cool, it’s nice and simple and clean
But it’s not some mind blowing breakthrough

[weak peak]

hi, I come to interrupt the tech support

[stark prawn]

I run my python in a container

[weak peak]

@vale raven how dog

[stark prawn]

podman run python

[vale raven]

Even for local dev?

[vale raven]

For example

[stark prawn]

It's the only way

[vale raven]

Old and shaky

[stark prawn]

Why struggle installing stuff like reddis or minio when you can just podman run them

[vale raven]

One of us!!

[carmine apex]

program is not compatible with 10 😔

[weak peak]

https://tenor.com/view/bro-hell-sus-gif-4640953859587921843

[vale raven]

Figures

It’s tiny
Just spend the hour to write it in Python

[carmine apex]

you'd think it wouldn't install correctly
but noooo

thuri finna have two different dotnet sdks now

ah gravy it's estimating 45 minutes to download the hash file

[vale raven]

HIBP is a pretty big dataset

[carmine apex]

i really hope my 90 gigs of free space on my c drive is not gonna be a limiting factor here

i also like how i just spent a bit like three days ago deleting steam games i've never played to free up several drives from the sadness of being at 97% capacity only to download a big chungus text file

[vale raven]

I remember hearing that the dataset explicitly wasnt public

[jovial oriole]

Winter tire season☺️

[carmine apex]

12% progress, file is 9 gigabytes. really hope the downloader prealloced the entire thing

[vale raven]

How fast is your internet?

[carmine apex]

fast.com just now says 580 Mbps

i think it's supposed to be only 300, tbh

[vale raven]

Gross

[carmine apex]

ah fug it's getting bigger

[terse harbor]

Quoting your mom?

[carmine apex]

A Bloom filter allows you to save disk space by not having to store the HIBP passwords file on your drive. Instead, a generated file (currently under 1GB in size) would be loaded
ah the days of naivety of about an hour ago when i figured this was relatively large and kinda worthless 😔

[carmine apex]

well played

[carmine apex]

88.4 GB

Finished downloading all hash ranges in 2,601,549ms (403.06 hashes per second).
We made 1,048,576 Cloudflare requests (avg response time: 92.99ms). Of those, Cloudflare had already cached 1,048,576 requests, and made 0 requests to the Have I Been Pwned origin server.
see fellas this is what CDNs are for

[undone granite]

https://www.kubernetes.dev/blog/2025/11/12/ingress-nginx-retirement/

[vale raven]

Wait what

[carmine apex]

i did not know that ingress was a thing other than the original and supposedly better arg from the pokemon go company

[vale raven]

I wanted to play that so badly

[carmine apex]

you still can afaik

[vale raven]

IDR why I couldn’t

[carmine apex]

well it does still require the touching of grass...

[carmine apex]

glorious 3.6 GB bloom filter with no current false positives

[jaunty wraith]

https://tenor.com/view/disappointed-disappointed-fan-seriously-what-are-you-doing-judging-you-gif-17485289

[vale raven]

https://tenor.com/view/the-future-is-now-gif-2107732185596225556

[terse harbor]

So
Cooking project, and I've been considering alternative cloud options
Since you main Azure,
In your experience, is the equivalent to RDS, Beanstalk, SageMaker, and S3 cheaper on average?

Or does it depend?

Presuming we're working with minimal MVP loads so barely any users

[vale raven]

I main Azure
IDK AWS pricing

[terse harbor]

What would you say is the average pricing for all those service equivalents?

AWS comes up to $60/m, around that

I haven't gotten around to using the calculator

[vale raven]

Depends wildly on how high you turn up the resources

[solemn tulip]

I just found out the charity Bram Moolenaar founded is dissolving 😭

a second death of sorts

[vale raven]

Who dat?

For reference:

I actually thought Beanstalk was part of CDK

[undone granite]

That name sounds familiar

[solemn tulip]

creator of vim

he passed away in 2023, not long after retiring

[jovial oriole]

You all simply arent tapped in like i am

I did some more stats on wordle answers and removed the 1605 used soluions

[jovial oriole]

Finally learned out to :q

[undone granite]

nahhh

[weak peak]

still getting 4s? lock in.

[undone granite]

How can someone be this entitled

[undone granite]

😢
Its time I update my cluster

Im still using nfs for persistent volumes

I will check out rook ceph, and maybe i can replace Minio too because I think rook has an S3 compatible API

[grave cove]

Stop using big cloud providers for small personal projects

👎

[terse harbor]

Not a small project

I wish it was

[obsidian summit]

thank god my project only takes a like 50p a day gpu rental lol

[vale raven]

y

[bleak lintel]

tbh

[jovial oriole]

Get a 3 with a q

[vale raven]

Yes?

[bleak lintel]

personal projects are a cool space to show off the actual technical creativity of the project — or how you can deploy it using your own tools (think homelab / private cloud / ansible / etc.)

i guess depends on whether it's a portfolio project or an actual project

but i wouldn't spent lots of time trying to use public cloud stuff for a personal project

[obsidian juniper]

Most of this message are spam be careful

[lament cairn]

well then the punchline changes from "vibe coders are shitty developers" to "vibe coders are tech illiterate"

whihc is... close enough

[soft violet]

Is the joke here they used AI to code an app, the AI site trained on their code, sent it out to other people, constituting a leak of their key and they're blaming vercel?

[thick ore]

They or the AI leaked the key

[jovial oriole]

Chest and back day needs its own can

[reef goblet]

Bro

[carmine apex]

!e

ct = 'FxAjInhZP'

for x in range(1, 101):
    res = []
    for c in ct:
        val = ord(c) * (x/100)
        if val != int(val):
            continue
        if 0x30 <= val <= 0x79:  # 0 to y. idk why not z
            res.append(int(val))
    if res:
        print(f'rand <{x}>, values {res}, text <{''.join(chr(n) for n in res)}>')

[royal lake]

:white_check_mark: Your 3.14 eval job has completed with return code 0.

001 | rand <40>, values [48], text <0>
002 | rand <45>, values [54], text <6>
003 | rand <50>, values [60, 53, 55, 52], text <<574>
004 | rand <55>, values [66], text <B>
005 | rand <60>, values [72, 66, 54, 48], text <HB60>
006 | rand <65>, values [78, 52], text <N4>
007 | rand <70>, values [49, 84, 77, 56], text <1TM8>
008 | rand <75>, values [90, 78, 60], text <ZN<>
009 | rand <80>, values [56, 96, 52, 88, 72, 64], text <8`4XH@>
010 | rand <85>, values [102, 68], text <fD>
... (truncated - too many lines)

Full output: https://paste.pythondiscord.com/PJVAENGYIVI2OYKXUO4A6WNOTE

[carmine apex]

@weary yarrow the values for x=40 become

 F  x  A    j    I  n    h  Z  p
28 48 26 42.4 29.2 44 41.6 36 32
``` . 42.4 29.2 and 41.6 are not integers, and of the others, only 48 is greater than or equal to 0x30 (which *is* 48, in fact)

[weary yarrow]

huh?

but where did get 28?

[carmine apex]

the ascii value for F is 70. 70*40/100 is 28. 28 is an integer. but 28 is not between 0x30 and 0x79

[weary yarrow]

i mean its not the different

wait let me show

[carmine apex]

0x30 is 48

[weary yarrow]

import random

raw = "FZDR0VxJU1R"
for v in raw:
    cadexal = ord(v)*random.randint(1, 100)/100

this

[carmine apex]

ascii value 28 is a control character

[weary yarrow]

cadexal -> base 24

i search google they said base 24.

[carmine apex]

it's not clear where nearly anything in this block came from

or using base24 for that matter

[weary yarrow]

hm?

i hope solved

[weak peak]

https://tenor.com/view/tik-tok-meme-waiting-wait-time-gif-16450082290173148616

[paper sequoia]

Since when has chatgpt started to hallucinate my location to it's answers? "Since you’re on Linux in REDACTED, Finland..." then when asked where did the location come from: "I’m sorry — that was my mistake. I shouldn’t have mentioned any location at all, and I don’t have any information about where you are unless you tell me. That reference to REDACTED was a hallucination on my part."
I just asked it some question about NixOS, no reference to anything 🤔 Pretty interesting

[willow narwhal]

Doesn't ChatGPT get your location and some other user data in its system prompt?

[paper sequoia]

I don't know, just the first time seeing it referring to location ever

It says it has no access to such but, well... Obviously has to

[willow narwhal]

I don't know if it actually does, but obviously you can't rely on its answer about that.

[paper sequoia]

Ye I know, just funny seeing it come up with random answers after that

[soft violet]

I suppose it's not a safe assumption that Earth orbit has a designated IP range.

...oh, right. Starlink.

🤮

"Where am I?"
"It appears that you are, in fact, on planet Venus."
"Given that, how am I alive?"
"I'm not sure. All information available to me suggests that Venus is highly inimical to human life. It is very puzzling."
"I'm actually behind seven proxies. I was on Earth all along."
"I see. Thank you for explaining."

[late orchid]

I'm not sure if the location is added to the system prompt (visible directly to the model), but it is definitely available for some of the tools (affects the results returned by integrations)

[weak peak]

about time

congrats

[jovial oriole]

https://tenor.com/view/yapping-yapping-level-today-catastrophic-yapanese-gif-13513208407930173397

[weak peak]

https://tenor.com/view/how-bro-felt-after-writing-that-how-bro-felt-alpha-wolf-alpha-alpha-meme-gif-307456636039877895

[jovial oriole]

https://tenor.com/view/godzilla-x-kong-king-kong-punch-knockout-monkey-apex-gif-8198598115822855198

[grave cove]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-thinking-monkey-thinking-think-money-gif-9734025314392564509

[weak peak]

https://tenor.com/view/ragebait-successful-another-another-successful-ragebait-black-gif-18435710051418180311

[jovial oriole]

https://tenor.com/view/jarvis-ragebait-this-guy-iron-man-tony-stark-gif-3966857531535969686

[soft violet]

Some events divide lives in two; before and after. The event which preceded the addition of the danger rating, catastrophic, was one such division.

[jovial oriole]

https://tenor.com/view/yapping-yapping-level-today-catastrophic-yapanese-gif-13513208407930173397

[soft violet]

I guess it's a bit like 9/11 jokes. Funny to some. 🙂

[undone granite]

Wow, finally some short ot names

[worldly ice]

Me: hey, my calories that I counted for today are in a deficit! good job me!
my brain: but what if you ate an entire large pizza 😈

[jovial oriole]

Why did nobody tell me the navy has a $$10k signing bonus for marine tech?

4 fulltime pay months and 8 parttime?

I think im ready to give some regimes their much needed freedom

[honest star]

Because that involves knowing which navy you're talking about

[noble crypt]

You be there just in time to liberate Venezuela from the Venezuelan government if you the us navy

or participate in the battle of the bay Lagos

[rough sapphire]

🫡 the man can choose whatever he wants to be

[noble crypt]

Thank you for your service

I had a nightmare once

I got an email saying

Thank you for joining the United Marine corps

[rotund oasis]

im tryna run my old pc and it says "no opperating system found" and i cant open bios and idk what to do to get it working

[daring linden]

Press F12 or f11 multiple times when launching your metalbad

Bag

That will get it working

I mean the will get the bios running

[wooden silo]

@native plank We can talk here

[native plank]

Kk

Anywyas

How would u help

And make any meaningfull results

Without the ability to influence stuff

Even if by abit

What i was thinking is that I would've be able to provide funding tawords research and green energy solutions cuz lowk climate change scares m

Me

[wooden silo]

That's a fair goal

Just don't climb over too many corpses on your way there

[wooden silo]

It high key scares me 🙂

[native plank]

My goal insnt ultra rich js enough to live mid level luxury through dividends

[native plank]

Its scary bro

We will die eventually ):

No more humans

[wooden silo]

At this point it's a bit of a bingo what'll kill us though

Climate change, social unrest, AI, etc.

[native plank]

We stscking them like infinity stones

[wooden silo]

That's fine

[native plank]

But i love ai

[wooden silo]

AI is one of those things that are just 100% everything

Very interesting, very useful, has the potential to transform society into a utopia as well as wipe us out as a species.

Sadly, I think the latter is more likely, given how we are going about it right now.

[native plank]

Ye

Like how tf did u fail to controll ur own code

Is it impossible to implement a just in case code block

😭

[wooden silo]

It's because AI models aren't built using code. It's more like they are "grown".

[native plank]

Huh

[wooden silo]

Yeah, it's like a huge matrix of numbers that are gradually calibrated using data as input.

We have no direct understanding of why the numbers need to be the way they are.

[native plank]

O_O

[wooden silo]

We just change the numbers until the model behaves kinda like we want it to.

Using the training data as a guide.

[native plank]

We will lead to our own downfall

😭

We are so cooked

[wooden silo]

Honestly, most likely.

We could also get destroyed by an asteroid.

Or a gamma ray burst.

But both of those are probably a lot less likely than us destroying ourselves.

One way or another.

[native plank]

Man idc how we get destroyed atp js do it after I die from being old

;p;

[wooden silo]

I had a child so I kinda want us to last beyond her lifetime as well

[native plank]

Ye but lately I doubt this will happen

I feel like I will live during the downfall

And thst will be my death

😔

[wooden silo]

Guess we'll find out

[solemn tulip]

It's kinda fitting a hugely overdimensionalized function to data :P

[thick ore]

why do flat earthers believe the government is lying about the shape of the earth

what would the government even gain from doing that

[young shoal]

the secret military base in antarctica

[thick ore]

i really don't think they would spend all that effort just to hide one military base 😭

[young shoal]

it's a big base

[tardy rain]

What about the moon base

[obsidian summit]

I've really really really gotten into cooking south indian recipes and I think it's probably in my top 3 world cuisines now. I love it

[jaunty wraith]

what are the top 3?

[tardy rain]

Greek
Italian
Mexican

Hellenes on top 🙌🙌

[obsidian summit]

Thai food is number 1
Indian is probably number 2
Idk what comes after that

Thai food is so good that it’s 1 by a long shot

So very easy to say

After that stuff starts getting more even

[undone granite]

damn ok

[marble bay]

atleast it's polite

[turbid tiger]

what's the context?

[marble bay]

a web page that just says Sorry.

[turbid tiger]

bruh

atleast it's polite

[echo delta]

BRUHHHHH 🤣

[thick osprey]

Back on track. Missed two days, mostly due to lack of sleep.

[worldly ice]

so did you write the last two days today?

[thick osprey]

Nope. I'll have a larger count, probably, tomorrow because I have most the day to write instead of a two hour block. Just so long as I hit that "Pace needed to hit your goal" number each day. That's what matters.

[worldly ice]

i c

[thick osprey]

I would like to have slightly less than 1.8k needed daily. So some extra work will go into it.

[jaunty wraith]

Arc user in 2025?

[shell raptor]

Arc<Mutex> even

[marble bay]

that's obviously zen smh

[thick ore]

these stupid yc firefox forks

[jaunty wraith]

fellow Zen user then
both look similar tbh

[marble bay]

yeah

[willow narwhal]

Don't even try

!clban 1110930857289580576 99% sure this is about to become some kind of scam

[royal lake]

:incoming_envelope: :ok_hand: applied ban to @tribal junco permanently.

[hasty oyster]

why is logoo spinning?

[tardy rain]

Fun

[thick ore]

My groupmates just cited google maps

In our research paper

Are we cooked

[young shoal]

no

[left jewel]

I mean, as long as it doesn't have &utm_source=chatgpt.com or similar, you're probably fine.

[jovial oriole]

https://tenor.com/view/staysafetv-matt-morse-matthew-morse-staysafe-world-of-warcraft-gif-14211289550070027659

[jovial oriole]

🙏💔

What is your research paper blud

"Fastest way from point A to point B" 🥀🥀

[solid elbow]

!mute 879807617260716143 2d You've been told to stop reacting to moderator actions with gifs. It's unnecessary, distracting, and disruptive.

[royal lake]

:incoming_envelope: :ok_hand: applied timeout to @jovial oriole until <t:1763521380:f> (2 days).

[thick ore]

good to know

[tardy rain]

Wordle 1,612 3/6*

⬛⬛🟩⬛⬛
⬛🟩🟩🟨⬛
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

HRLO been real quiet since i dropped this wordle

[young shoal]

🗿

[weak peak]

real.

seems like they folded under no pressure at all

[solemn tulip]

yay
🟨⬛⬛⬛⬛
⬛⬛⬛🟩🟩
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

[forest gull]

Hi

[near geode]

anyone know why windows wont detect the mic of any of my 3 headphones

really annoying when i wanna play arc raiders and use proximity chat

[near geode]

im actually gonna lose my head with this soon i swear