ot1-perplexing-regexing

[vale raven]

What’s that cover?

All containerized services?

[thick osprey]

It covers the generalized: If you deploy code you can revert that deployment completely in 5 minutes. Period.

Edge cases include large scale IaC changes (hint: don't tear down until you're on your feet), database schema changes, and other things that just take time. Risk management and all that.

[vale raven]

What if it needs networking changes or IAM changes or fancy config?

[frozen coral]

blue green is the way

[vale raven]

I just setup my DNS records to be deployed from a GitHub repository
That was fun

[frozen coral]

azure slots are nice

[thick osprey]

Then the network team needs to be able to roll back. IAM should be in the infra as code. Configs had best be redeployable with documented measures for reloading.

[vale raven]

I wish I could afford those

[thick osprey]

✨ canary ✨

[quasi blaze]

Who has the authority to fire a SWE in a big corporation? Is it the team lead, VP or CEO?

[thick osprey]

The same as a small corporation. Human Resources.

[vale raven]

Yes

[vale raven]

(Whats the difference?)

[thick osprey]

All levels of leadership can take steps toward that action. Nothing happens until it is cleared by both HR and legal.

[thick osprey]

More control. It's basically just a slow burn blue/green deployment. Turn on .5% of traffic to the new side, then slowly roll it up to 100% over hours/days/weeks.

[vale raven]

Oh

aint nobody got time for that

[thick osprey]

Plug it into the monitors and your canary will self govern. Error rates go up? It reverts the deployment automatically within seconds.

[vale raven]

Doesn't blue/green do the exact same thing?

[thick osprey]

Yes, they are basically the same principle. But with a canary rollout instead of 100% of your traffic dying in minutes of fire only a small percentage of it does.

It's a dimmer switch instead of a light switch for your code.

[vale raven]

But like uh...
When I assign a custom domain to my web app
After I make the the record for the actual connection, it wants me to make another record for verification. It gives me a randomly generated string.

asuid.core:
  type: TXT
  values:
    - E0EC68[redacted]6415F

core:
  type: CNAME
  value: [redacted].azurewebsites.net.

If I had to revert and delete the resource
When I create it agin in the future it will give me a new random string

IDK how to automate that

Though I'm sure there's some easy way that I am still ignorant of that you're about to show me and make me feel stupid

[thick osprey]

I don't know either. Networking isn't my thing. I delegate that to the networking and transport teams who know how all that works.

I'd also never want to make a DNS or network change with any code changes. Deerlord, choose one explosive or another. Not both.

[vale raven]

That's another answer to Keezy's question
You get to punt stuff you don't know to a whole team of experts
I get everyone coming straight to me

Smaller teams require individual members to maintain a much wider scope of knowledge

[thick osprey]

Nobody can know it all. Your situation is shit and I've said it is shit before and I was talking to some folks at work Wednesday and telling them how shit it was ((no names mentioned)).

[vale raven]

[thick osprey]

"Devops" was never intended to mean "that one person that can do it all"

[vale raven]

DevOps was intended to mean CI can do all

you x'ed me

I'm telling mom

[thick osprey]

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/17255186-the-phoenix-project

Read it. It's a fun story and you'll learn what devops was meant to be.

[vale raven]

Hardcover
$90.79

Holy Christ

oh

What if I give the book to my boss?

errr

nooo

that's a bad plan

[thick osprey]

They might learn something about how to improve their production floor.

[vale raven]

I'll show up the next Monday and there will be an agile waterfall setup next to my desk

The sound will drive me crazy

[frozen coral]

hah yeah, actually looking to do this on our bigger releases

[vale raven]

Does Azure have it built in?

[thick osprey]

It's neat! I've never looked into setting it up. At work it's three lines of yaml that gets fed into the rancher machine and then magic works. ((bless our k8 team))

[vale raven]

Probably would have to pay for Front Door?

I wish I had just a bit bigger budget
I love K8s

Still need to upgrade to K9s though

[thick osprey]

K8s > K9s

[vale raven]

Comes with IaC as a practical requirement built in

[frozen coral]

haven't looked into it much yet, but traffic manager seems to have the capabilities

[vale raven]

There is no "just go install this app rq"

[vale raven]

you are under arrest for libel

[thick osprey]

That's official artwork from the project. I'm just sharing the facts.

[frozen coral]

hah yeah, it's much easier when you have a cluster running your apps

since canary is just a deployment strategy :P

[thick osprey]

It makes me laugh sometimes. I can talk shop about all these deployment strategies but, at work, I'm literally just editing a template config file that some other team has abstracted 98% of all the working pieces out of.

[frozen coral]

Yeah yup

knowing how the magic works is great, but not needed most places

[vale raven]

Come work for me
You'll get to demystify all the things

[thick osprey]

Oh, I need a separate SQS to feed a lambda with a short circuit pattern and SNS topics hooked into the Kafka stream? Okay, that's one file with twelve config lines....

[frozen coral]

[thick osprey]

Parameterized helm on one side and parameterized terraform on the other.

[vale raven]

Terraform on top of Helm?

[thick osprey]

Parallel with*

[frozen coral]

terraform to define the infra, helm to say what to run on it i imagine

[vale raven]

Terraform creates the clusters, K8s runs the containers

yeah

[thick osprey]

We were a terraform shop. Now we're quickly becoming a k8 shop. But we need to deploy the clusters somehow so... oh hey, we have the terraform solved!

[frozen coral]

hah nice

I've been learning bicep recently, fairly decent

[vale raven]

I just can't get behind IaC having state

[thick osprey]

How could it be helpful if it didn't have state?

[vale raven]

My Bicep can sit in a repo for six months and I can make a change and it can go deploy itself
I can leave my Terraform overnight, and try to edit it from my laptop in the morning, and have everything break because it's missing the state

[thick osprey]

I don't know what goes into holding the state file. Work, again, spoils me with a solved solution. I just use our terraform deployment platform.

A small part of me sometimes worries that I can't move companies because I've never really learned these things.

Then the rational part of my mind wakes up and reminds me that I've figured everything out so far and I can continue to do that... so stop worrying.

[vale raven]

That's the big part of what Hashicorp's paid offerings do, just give you some cloud blob storage for your state folder
Coming from Bicep and Kubernetes where I just have idempotent deployments with nothing but my deployment file, Terraform needing a state file really irritated me when I tried to learn it for some "resume driven development"

[thick osprey]

Interesting. I assumed kooberneets had state that I just never saw.

Also... I was going to write this afternoon and I've spend two hours in here. Oops.

[vale raven]

They do, they just don’t make you manage it for them

[vale raven]

Don’t you hate it when that happens?

Real quick before you go
Have you guys seen this?
https://medium.com/chick-fil-atech/observability-at-the-edge-b2385065ab6e

[thick osprey]

Naw I know I'll get my goal done and if my mind wanted to relax this afternoon then I'm glad I relaxed.

[vale raven]

Oh noes

I have been bamboozled

[thick osprey]

What about it? Feels like a fairly comfortable pattern. Load the agent daemons or sidecars into the cluster and route, agnostically, to the platforms.

I don't know why you'd pay the yearly fees of Datadog and stand up your own Grafana dashboards but to each their own.

[vale raven]

https://stackoverflow.blog/2024/11/26/your-docs-are-your-infrastructure/
I was told this was a “blog”
The title sounded good, I wanted to read it
But it’s not a “blog”
It’s a “podcast”
I hate peoples ramblings
I suck at auditory processing

[thick osprey]

I imagine the grafana side is high-level green/red views of the entire system for leadership.

Actually, the more I look at that... Datadog provides a one-stop shop for all the metrics in cloudwatch and dashboards you'd build in grafana while storing all the metrics, traces, and logs (I think? Not sure if DD handles logs)

So... you're paying extra for a database to power Grafana and you're using AWS cloudwatch directly? Weird flex, but okay.

The left side makes sense.

Business Metrics: These are measurements that tie technical performance to business outcomes. Examples could include revenue generated per user, conversion rates, customer acquisition cost, etc. Sometimes these metrics are the only indicator that a system is truly not operating nominally.

Mmmmm. Business events. Tasty shit right here.

[vale raven]

I just thought you’d find it interesting
I found it interesting
I am handing off an application to an offshore contractor to install at factories that have employees that’re so non technical they’re still on Windows 7.
I need drivers from multiple database vendors. I need drivers that require editing your PATH. I need…
You get the idea
I sent them a compose.yaml that exposed a web app and said “open your terminal and type docker compose go-go-stuff, wait until the magic finishes, and then open your web browser”.
No issues so far.

[thick osprey]

Okay... so they use Vector as the ETL and delivery from the clusters (and all other things). So maybe what they send to grafana isn't what they want in DD. Again, makes sense.

((I don't know that ETL is the correct term here))

[vale raven]

TL;DR: popping up your own PaaS is super handy for knowing what the client’s environment is going to look like

[thick osprey]

This enables teams to use whatever tool makes sense for them and gives them autonomy to build reports and dashboards to support their application(s). Most of our teams send their logs and metrics to Grafana, Datadog, or CloudWatch.

Nope. Nevermind. They gave their dev teams multiple choices for observability platforms. Interesting choice Cotten, we'll see how that works out for them.

[vale raven]

Yeah

That part I didn’t get

Sounds expensive as all hell

[thick osprey]

It is outrageously expensive.

Datadog contracts are insane. I know, we priced it out.

AND they have splunk on this list?! Well okay then.

[carmine apex]

where datacat

[thick osprey]

Hoping you deploy a new chart soon
#ot1-perplexing-regexing message

[vale raven]

In the trash where it belongs

You don’t want to start that with me

I escalate

[carmine apex]

at least you're using the correct version of emojis this time

[young shoal]

population 👏 based 👏 rollouts

[robust zephyr]

Their sales people are also insane. One of them called me on my phone, called me at work (and I have no desk phone, they just called asking for me by name) and also sent emails. I had to block them to make it stop

If there was ever a question of whether we should use them I’d actively campaign against it

[thick osprey]

That's not datadog. That's just sales.

[robust zephyr]

I guess I’ve never experienced this level of dedication after I said I’m not interested

[thick osprey]

Make friends with a someone that gets paid commission in sales. Then go shadow their job for a day. It's an entirely different world.

[young shoal]

just forward them to your sales eng people or something . not your problem

[quasi blaze]

@grave cove how do i open the case?

[grave cove]

there should be 3 screws in the back that you need to losen first, then it should pop right off

[vale raven]

3?

[grave cove]

oh it is 2

i thought there was one in the middle for some reason

they are thumb screws so you don't need a screwdriver

[vale raven]

It's generally 2 for solid metal side panels
But my last case had a tempered glass side panel that had pegs to slot in, and there was only 1 screw for hold down

[grave cove]

i think the one keezy has is tempered glass

[vale raven]

Looks like

[vale raven]

What's the model number
Take a picture of the back but make sure to let the camera actually focus

[grave cove]

thats the bottom

[vale raven]

(that's the bottom)

[grave cove]

he means the back

[vale raven]

Those are the feet
Put the feet on the ground

[grave cove]

you seem to be having difficulty telling which side is which, but in short the grated side in the front, the side with the power button and USB is the top. back and bottom are opposites from that

[grave cove]

yeah see the screws with the green/neon highlight

[quasi blaze]

Yeah

[grave cove]

those are the ones you want to remove to get the side panels off

both side panels are removable which is why you have 4 screws (2 screws for 2 side panels each)

however you'll rarely be taking off the non-tempered-glass side

[quasi blaze]

Oh sick. I don’t think I need a screwdriver

[vale raven]

You should be able to slide the entire panel towards you after you remove the screws
Be VERY careful to not drop the glass

[grave cove]

^

[quasi blaze]

Ahh lol

[grave cove]

yeah tempered glass has a disturbing tendency to shatter into a thousand pieces

especially if your floors aren't carpeted

[solemn tulip]

ill-tempered glass

[quasi blaze]

Apparently building a PC is monumental which is why my friend wants to come over and watch me build it

[grave cove]

the pcmr subreddit has like, at least one case of broken tempered glass per day to the point where it's a running joke in the community

[quasi blaze]

The power button is on top. That’s interesting

Thanks for the help guys

[minor charm]

Is there anyone who can help me with python Selenium actually I am facing an issue regarding send keys

[robust zephyr]

#❓｜how-to-get-help

[thick ore]

TIL you can selfhost on ipv6 under cgnat

no need for port forwarding

[lament cairn]

because unless your isp is incredibly stupid, there is no nat for ipv6

[thick ore]

yea

why didnt anyone tell me about this before

i was about to pay for ngrok

[lament cairn]

most good routers will block all incoming connections anyway for security, so port forwarding is still necessary
with cgnat you can't port forward period

[lament cairn]

because ipv6 adoption sadly isn't too high https://www.google.com/intl/en/ipv6/statistics.html

around 44-45% globally

[thick ore]

ok now thats sad

[lament cairn]

for http there's cloudflare, theyll handle ipv4 and 6

but for everything else you gotta hope your user is one of the lucky 44%

i blame isps being dumb and not turning on ipv6 in the routers they give to clients

and github

github still isn't v6 yet

has nothing to do with adoption rate but im mad about it

[low chasm]

https://rayyanc.com/posts/My-Thoughts-on-NixOS/ as promised 🥺

[spice storm]

hi im trying to set up a visitor counter on my website but im new to this and i dont understand how i could get it working, can sm1 help?

an ai asked me to make a firebase api something and i did it but it still doesnt seem to work

if sm1 knows exactly what to do idm sharing the code in dms

[low chasm]

there's existing solutions out there (e.g google analytics, and I believe cloudflare offers one as well), where you link a script to your website which automatically sends data over to the analytics solution, which displays it for you (this includes page views, as well as things such as the regions where traffic is coming from, session length, etc).

What I do is I self host https://umami.is/, which is an open source alternative to stuff like google analytics. I run it with docker on my server, and link the provided script onto my website which sends metric data over to the umami instance I have running.

[spice storm]

ooo

do you have to pay after you hit a certain amount of views or something?

[low chasm]

also - depending on how you're hosting the website, you might already have access to something like a visitor counter. I believe if you're using cloudflare pages, for example, it automatically sets up the analytics for you.

[spice storm]

uh okay so, what exactly do i do

[low chasm]

for google analytics? I'm not sure, some of these services do have paid plans which offer more services, though. I don't have to pay for anything - I'm selfhosting, which means I run the solution locally on my own server. It's open source.

[spice storm]

right right

[low chasm]

if you're new to this, the easiest solution is probably just using something like google analytics.

[spice storm]

thank you so much dude @low chasm

and um should i check out https://umami.is/

or im assuming google analytics would be better as you just mentioned?

[low chasm]

you can if you'd like. the code is open source, so you can host it yourself and not have to pay for anything. If you don't want to selfhost it, you'll have to pay for an instance they set up. Google analytics is free, and you don't need to host it.

[spice storm]

im sorry im not aware what hosting and self hosting is, can you explain the difference? im js using a github sub-domain to host my website

[low chasm]

gotcha, so - selfhosting something like umami means that you run it yourself, on a server you have access to. If you don't want to do that, you need to pay umami to host umami themselves, on a server they own, so that you can use it without hosting it yourself.

google analytics is free, you don't need to run it yourself on your own server. If you're using github pages, that's probably the better solution here.

[spice storm]

rightt, but what would be the difference if id run it myself or id let umami for example run my site for me?

[spice storm]

yeah ill look into the google thingy for the counter now

[low chasm]

you'd need to pay, whereas running it yourself is free.

[spice storm]

alright thank you

[spice storm]

hey so are you saying you dint have to pay for the domain youve got for your website?

[low chasm]

I did have to pay. To clarify, it's "free" so far as to say that you aren't paying to run the service yourself. You will need a server and a domain, though, which you'll likely need to buy. I already had those on hand, since I host my website on my own server.

[spice storm]

got it, jazaak Allaah khair

or ty

@low chasm how do i get a google tag on the page

okay ill try maybe i can figure this out myeslf

mysefl

myself huh

[spice storm]

alright this did work but it now says it couldnt find my google tag

ive checked for extensions and my google tag in the code

@low chasm

[low chasm]

mm

I've never used google analytics, so I'm not sure the details of how to set it up, but are you using an ad blocker by any chance?

that might mess it up

[spice storm]

no

[low chasm]

how did you add the tag?

[spice storm]

the extension?

[low chasm]

google analytics should provide a script tag somewhere you can copy and paste onto your webpage, that's the "tag".

https://support.google.com/analytics/answer/9304153?hl=en#zippy=%2Cadd-the-google-tag-directly-to-your-web-pages

[spice storm]

gpt js gave me code after i gave it my google tag and i pasted it in my html file

[spice storm]

yess

[spice storm]

how do i get this script again

[low chasm]

it should be on your google analytics dashboard somewhere. I'm not sure exactly, like I mentioned, I haven't used it.

follow the steps on this page, maybe? https://support.google.com/analytics/answer/9304153?hl=en

[spice storm]

mm okay

ayt got it

ill try again now

okay now the code is right but it still wont work, i actually need sm1 whos done this b4

[glossy niche]

EW EW EW EWWWWWWW

Google analytics 🤮

fucking garbage

[thick ore]

for a simple visitor counter i think any analytics platform is overkill

get some cloudflare kv or supabase or firebase

[glossy niche]

yeah, you can implement it yourself

Google analytics is annoying asf to work with

and it just gets blocked by ad blockers anyways, rightfully so

it's not reliable

it's built for non technical people at the expense of technical people

crappy low code SaaS solution

[quasi blaze]

There’s software developers who work for telecommunications companies. I am wondering how they incorporate their network and configuration knowledge with software development

Basically I like to know what projects they work on that involve developing, and configuring networks

[glossy niche]

my only knowledge abt this is that a lot of ppl use SSH to configure network devices e.g. routers, sometimes via ansible https://docs.ansible.com/ansible/latest/collections/cisco/index.html

[lament cairn]

They got confused by umami and self hosting/cloud hosting. It would take a lot of time for them to get started - if they just want to get something done, GA is fine

[spice storm]

hey @low chasm i got it connected, it was smth with the code

now i gotta wait for like 2 days it says

[quasi blaze]

Ahh so they configure devices with programming?

An college colleague of mine uses Python, SAP scripting and automation for her job and they work as a developer for a telecommunications company

I wonder how those three go together in working as a developer for telecommunications

[vale hull]

Ikr

I'd always make my own analytics/counter script before using something third-party.

Keeps the user data in one place

[quasi blaze]

Damn. So nobody knows eh?

[young shoal]

i think you're misconstruing configuring devices and programming them

[low chasm]

but like, really what's the alternative for non programmers or non technical people who want low effort analytics? I agree that there's issues with google analytics, but it's not really feasible for someone who isn't a programmer to just roll their own visitor counting solution.

[low chasm]

my dad is a sysadmin, he does a lot of ansible, which lets you automate things like network configuration.

[swift portal]

is there a way to make commits in a pre-push hook and include it in the current push? or is the only way is to push twice

commit=`git rev-parse --short HEAD`
npm run build
git add index.js
git commit -m "dist: commit ${commit}"

nvm

[glossy niche]

not clue, but my Co workers and I jsut agreed that marketing people should just leave it to the technical people to do the coding, there's no need for direct involvement

[lapis trench]

https://skribbl.io/?t5CIzXTH

programming language guess & draw

[quasi blaze]

I don’t feel like changing tech stacks if I get another job 😔

I am too accustomed to what I use now

[tardy rain]

Complacency is death

[thick osprey]

It doesn't matter if you are in finance, sales, marketing, line work, freight, transport, retail, service, or technology. For all fields, change is the only constant.

Even where you are now will not remain the same. The sooner you learn to embrace change, the sooner you discover how to overcome many of its difficulties. You become even more valuable to an employer and your own life becomes more controlled.

A bit fluffy for a Sunday

[vale raven]

I've cycled many a tech stack, and I've only had the one job

[thick osprey]

But adapting to change is one of the few soft skills I look for in an interview. ((I'm not a picky interviewer))

[vale raven]

I actually quite seriously opened this channel to ping @thick osprey for help brainstorming migrating one of my projects to a different stack

Still Python this time, but from local files to HTTP and Azure blob
Stuff moves around, half our job is just moving stuff around to meet ever changing business requirements

@thick osprey
I'm looking at my old "file watcher" script.
I was brainstorming batching the logs up to my API, mostly just as a proof-of-concept to say I did it.
But the long term goal is to move the files from local file shares into Azure blob storage anyways, so I figured might as well go all the way and start including the file contents in the request to the API, so I can get that workflow established, start having the API persist to the storage resource.
But I don't want to require that, because there are some cases where I could use a file watcher that I just need local file management.

So... TL;DR...
I want to upgrade my 100 line script that moves files between folders to a "real" "file watcher" project
And I want to support optionally sending logs and/or the files themselves to an HTTP endpoint

The project itself sounds easy enough
But I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around optionally registering the HTTP "events"

[thick osprey]

At a high level, couldn't you just start with the concepts of:

• create the endpoint(s)
• create the implementation for sending to the endpoint
• decide how you want to control how files are treated
  • local config
  • remote config
  • option c

[vale raven]

I do have to maintain both for the time being

I can start sending the files to my Azure storage account
But I still have to keep copying them to the local file shares until the rest of the business is ready to migrate

[thick osprey]

You've got three agnostic pieces. You have the API that doesn't care who talks to it. You have the transport of the files to the API which doesn't care what data it is given. You have the file watcher that only cares what it's told do to.

[vale raven]

True

I’m stuck on creating support for the watcher to receive a list of transports

That makes the most sense to me

[thick osprey]

Try flipping the problem on it's head. Instead of the watcher receiving the list, what happens if the watcher just periodically fetches the list?

[vale raven]

From a config provider?

I’m intending for this to be self contained

[thick osprey]

Sure. From anywhere. An API or just a bucket. The API gives you another layer to abstract things with.

GET "filewatcher [guid] here. I need my config"

on the other side:
I don't have a config for [guid] so here's the default loadout
or
Here's the config for [guid]

Just throwing things at a wall here.

One of the ways I've learned to approach a problem is to keep the moving pieces as grouped together as possible. Something receiving config updates means you have something else that needs moving pieces to hand everything out. Versus the thing that already has moving pieces calling out and getting its own config.

Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.

[vale raven]

That actually makes a lot of sense
if my config changed a lot
But my config hasn’t changed in over three years
And any other usages would be one offs where I’d be handwriting a custom config on the fly

[thick osprey]

Then you should probably start with the plan of hand packing a config with the deployment and go from there, right?

[vale raven]

Well yeah
That’s my plan

I was picturing a config.py with decorators to bind to events
Like SQLAlchemy has uh…. @event('before_commit')

Oh yeah
I just remembered
Vendor shipped us a Windows 11 computer with specialized software installed
It exposes input folders as network shares

I have the script on the computer, but that’s just because I wasn’t organized at the time

Both the in and out folders are network shares
I just have Python installed from the Windows Store on the computer because it’s so bespoke I wanted to fuck with it as little as possible

But I could move the watcher to a container on a server

Then it downloading a config could make a lot more sense

One watcher watching every folder

[torn pier]

weird thingy and may sound dumb but do someone know how to clean head so i won't get new ideas?

[round pendant]

i think thats called lobotomy
and its not good

[torn pier]

but something not permament?

[graceful basin]

I'd look into mediation

[harsh tundra]

Do something that will make your head busy. For me: movie + puzzle game. Or music + some more complex game.

If I do one thing, there's still brain power left and it sometimes goes into weird places.

[torn pier]

right now i do 3 things and still…

[harsh tundra]

What are those things? Are you actually using the brain power in parallel or just switching between those things?

[torn pier]

i cant parallel

smh

[harsh tundra]

Music+doing something is 2 things in parallel.
Coding 2 projects at once is switching between them.

[torn pier]

tv + solitaire + talking here

[harsh tundra]

Is tv actually interesting? Is solitaire challenging or just executing same moves?

I liked freecell for this reason that it required some thinking. Minesweeper on phone was also great. Now I do nonograms, tents and trees, or test different puzzle games

[torn pier]

a little challenging. about tv idk if i care

[carmine apex]

https://www.puzzle-tents.com/?size=10 moment

[torn pier]

tents is crappy

[torn pier]

although maybe there are some mines in openstore on my phone…

[rapid lava]

gosh im to sigma

[hybrid root]

img dump (ignore the dust, i barely use it)

[clear acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/spider-man-this-is-something-else-something-new-different-spider-man3-gif-24186784

[quasi blaze]

I am happy that I made the choice of building my PC

[spice storm]

hey @bleak lintel, i js saw ur profile and uve linked ur sites on ur discord. i was trying to do the same with my site (a github sub domain), can u help me get it done coz its not working for me

[timid latch]

to be able to link your domain as a connection on your discord you must be able to add a specific dns record to the domains dns server, which you cant with github

nvm forgot the https verification option was a thing

[timid latch]

what have you tried so far?

[spice storm]

i made a repo named .well-known and made a file named discord in it and copy pasted the code they give u there. dint work

then i forked a repo of smbody else (saw a vid), same method, dint work

[timid latch]

are you sure the file is reachable at the url they want?

[spice storm]

how would i find out? i mean the repos are public tho

[timid latch]

go to the url they give you in the verification thing

[spice storm]

mm alright

is this why

[timid latch]

yhe, github isnt serving the file, from googling sounds like .nojekyll could be a solution

[timid latch]

wait the repo is named .well-know? you sure you setup gh pages on it

[spice storm]

uhh

im confused

i js deleted the repo ill do it all again

so what exactly do i do

[timid latch]

well I would think it made more sense to just create a .well-know folder on whatever thing you are actually hosting on gh pages

[spice storm]

"on whatever thing you are actually hosting on gh pages" i dont understand this 😭

[timid latch]

why do you want to connect the subdomain to your discord account in the first place?

[spice storm]

dy mean a folder with that name in my [my accounts name].github.io folder

[spice storm]

so it shows up on my profile? wym?

[timid latch]

I mean no use linking to a domain with no content.

[timid latch]

yes

[spice storm]

okay

[spice storm]

dude what

[timid latch]

I assume you have some content on the domain, thats what I mean by "whatever thing you are actually hosting on gh pages"

[spice storm]

http://www.arubbinali.github.io

[timid latch]

yhe okay

[spice storm]

why does it show unsafe

https://arubbinali.github.io/

ohh no www

i typed it out myself akshually

most of the pages are empty i was js working on docs rn

dropped this site 2 days ago

@timid latch why does it still not work

https://arubbinali.github.io/.well-known/discord

@fathom musk

[timid latch]

yhe seems like you need a .nojekyll file to make github not skip "hidden" folders (folders starting with a .), the file should just be empty

[spice storm]

so how do i get this working

i mean idek what a nojekyll file is

[timid latch]

literally just create a file called .nojekyll with no content

[spice storm]

um ok

in the known folder or outside of it

[timid latch]

in the root (so outside it)

[spice storm]

alr

[timid latch]

seems like the url is working, does discord accept it?

[spice storm]

yessir

[timid latch]

nice!

[spice storm]

tyy

[timid latch]

np 😄

[spice storm]

but um

anyone else could simply get the code from my repo and own it too isnt it

[timid latch]

the code is unique, the only thing it can be used for is telling discord "yes the person who owns the discord account arub also controlls this web server", which is not really something you need to worry about (considering you need to actually go thru the verification menus on your profile for it do be useful)

So the only thing somebody else can do with it is let you claim their domain is yours 😛

also considering the code has to be public for the verification to work I very much doubt discord are stupid enough to make sharing it bad

[spice storm]

ooo

[spice storm]

what if i try making my repo private

[timid latch]

well

1. you cant host private repos on github pages on the free plan
2. the url would still expose the token, as it must

[spice storm]

right right

tysm for ur time dude

and um ur site is funny lol

(the text down there)

[timid latch]

I remade my site like 5 times and just gave up

[spice storm]

what

why

[timid latch]

because I am a perfectionist and would always feel the need to redesign everything whenever I wanted to add more content

so now I am just forcing myself to have something minimal

[spice storm]

ugh

geek fever

im just too obsessed with websites for now coz for the last 7 years ive been doing dry stuff

sites are like omg

[timid latch]

its a pretty cool effect you got in the background of yours

[spice storm]

u can flex in an unimaginable fancy way in no time

[spice storm]

dude its ai

i dont even have time to learn js

rn

see the docs page

thats 3 dummy code snippets there but ill put my projects' codes right there

its going to be insaneeee

[timid latch]

yhe much more fancy than my site

which is just a list of project links 🙃

[fair summit]

Bruh i somehow understood instructions
(idk if correctly, but atleast it functions and looks okay and runs compiled (clang -target riscv -c + scrap everything except .text) code with expected result..)
But now ecall, it's whole another level...

There are some 4 modes, M H S U...

What's hart??

mie, mip, wtf

Xideleg

Www

Too much abbreviations

[quasi blaze]

I started applying for jobs

I wonder what the job market is like for tech in New York City

They say if you make it in New York City , you can make it anywhere

[marble grove]

yo can anyone help me? i made a post in python-help

[jaunty wraith]

perhaps continue your conversation in #ot0-psvm’s-eternal-disapproval

[marble grove]

NO ONE WILL REPLY

oops capc

caps

i did make a post

but

yea..

..

no responce.

.....

[jaunty wraith]

be patient. it's only been 5 mins.
also, read what I said above

[marble grove]

what convo?

[jaunty wraith]

#ot0-psvm’s-eternal-disapproval message

[marble grove]

alr

they wont respond but

k

[uneven pine]

Tiktok brain

[quasi blaze]

How do people safely move their PC into another living space?

Do they put it in a box?

[tardy rain]

Yea

[dapper dew]

I kept my components boxes, so I moved and uninstalled the CPU cooler and CPU as well as the GPU. The ram and PSU won't move much, but I stuffed the case just in case (I also put the case back in its original box)

[tardy rain]

I didnt uninstall anything, i stuffed it in a box with a bunch of towels and other padding

[quasi blaze]

Good idea

[tardy rain]

you probably should uninstall a couple things

your gpu for example

[vale hull]

Same, just put my PC in the back of the truck (still in the cab).

I should make some support brackets for the GPU and CPU cooler

How much that GPU shakes when the desktop moves scares me

[carmine apex]

this is always an option but I would be unreasonably resistant about removing the cpu cooler from the cpu

[dapper dew]

I didn't want to take any chances, it was a cross border truck transport

[carmine apex]

I'm curious if it's best for them to remove HDDs 🤔

[young shoal]

like in breaking bad?

[dapper dew]

Maybe?

It would have been a very long drive either way

[carmine apex]

fair. having to redo thermal paste is annoying but stuff going wrong could break the cooler and cpu

I can't even get the same cooler anymore because they tripled the price, and it's not competitive at the new one

[vale hull]

Maybe make a bracket. Probably more important with a massive cooler like a Cooler Master 212.

[young shoal]

the most I'd take out is GPU tbh. everything else is pretty firmly anchored down. you can get those expandable packing things to fill the space also

[carmine apex]

it appears that all modern shutdown hdds park the heads in a manner that they can sustain non-extreme shaking without problems. so you wouldn't have to remove and coddle them

theoretically you could leave in the GPU, but they're very heavy, and the connections are not super durable

[grave cove]

waltuh we need to smuggle my gaming pc

[uneven pine]

never leave the GPU in, even a smaller GPU, it's a recipe for disaster

my 3070 ti was so heavy that the PCI retention clip broke while I was taking it out for a move

it would likely have ripped the whole PCI slot off lol

I ended up getting a new board but I am saving that board to use as a streaming PC

I also have a spare 5800x for it

Just need RAM, an SSD, a PSU and a case

[grave cove]

Yeah gpu is the only thing i remove when transporting

[quasi blaze]

Oh damn. Okay I’ll keep that in mind if I ever move, I’ll take out the GPU if I have a GPU

[uneven pine]

or honestly

I might use that PC for my girlfriend and just use her current PC as the streaming PC

she's still on an 8700k which is getting long in the tooth tho I don't think she has any issues with it so she might not want to bother lol

[carmine apex]

ah the joys of having a 300+ gpu

[uneven pine]

I've got a 4070 ti super now which is smaller somehow lol

[carmine apex]

worthless us customary units ai response is worthless

307 mm
nearly 13 inches

[zealous temple]

😭

im going

import { NextResponse } from 'next/server';
import { getServerSession } from 'next-auth/next';
import { authOptions } from '@/app/api/auth/[...nextauth]/route';
import { supabase } from '@/lib/supabase';
import bcrypt from 'bcryptjs';

export async function POST(req: Request) {

  const {user, currentPassword, newPassword } = await req.json();
  console.log("Received payload:", { user, currentPassword, newPassword });
  try {
    const currentPass = currentPassword
    const { data: returnedData, error: fetchError } = await supabase
      .from('users')
      .select('password')
      .eq('userId', user).single();
      const DataPassword = returnedData?.password
      console.log(DataPassword)
    

      console.log(typeof DataPassword)
      console.log(typeof currentPass)
  

    if (fetchError) throw fetchError;
    const isPasswordValid = await bcrypt.compare(String(currentPass), String(DataPassword));
    if (!isPasswordValid) {
      return NextResponse.json({ error: 'Current password is incorrect' }, { status: 400 });
    }
    console.log(user)
    const hashedPassword = await bcrypt.hash(newPassword, 10);
    const { error: updateError } = await supabase
      .from('users')
      .update({ password: hashedPassword })
      .eq('userId', user);

    if (updateError) throw updateError;

    return NextResponse.json({ message: 'Password updated successfully' });
  } catch (error) {
    console.error('Error changing password:', error);
    return NextResponse.json({ error: 'Failed to change password' }, { status: 500 });
  }
}

[marble grove]

can anyone help me i made a post in #1313186676360745121

[grave cove]

type shit

[uneven pine]

please stop spamming this everywhere. It will not get you an answer faster, it'll just make people want to avoid your post by you posting it everywhere.

[rose hare]

in asp net, can I only allow unauthorized users to access a page through web config authorization?
"""
Add this to your web.config:

<configuration>
  <system.web>
    <authorization>
      <!-- Deny access to authenticated users -->
      <deny users="?" />
    </authorization>
  </system.web>
</configuration>

Explanation:

• <deny users="?">: This denies access to unauthenticated (anonymous) users.
  """
  yes good job gpt, exactly the opposite of what I asked

[robust zephyr]

Classic GPT

[lament cairn]

https://vxtwitter.com/ishikawazoo_jp/status/1863025243264254128.mp4

[cloud void]

Using Ansible documentation I learned that Ansible standard way is to run modules outside virtual environment, the managed nodes side.
On another hand Kolla Ansible recommends to use virtual environments on hosts managed. I am committed to venv use in general, however when using Kolla Ansible my preference is to do it Ansible default way. This applies because I am on learning Kolla Ansible.

Any idea what percentage of deployment projects based on Ansible do run Ansible modules in virtual environment concerning managed hosts?

[quasi blaze]

Has anyone ever went from a software developer to systems administration?

[rough sapphire]

This is more common than the other way around

[thick osprey]

What does systems administration do, in this case?

[quasi blaze]

There's a System Administraton opportunity near me but I am afraid that this path could deter me from elevating myself as a software developer

[quasi blaze]

Having familiarity with VMware ESXi, and vSphere, Database management and SQL queries. it's maintaining the operation of computer systems and networks in the company

[rough sapphire]

Hm. That’s hard. It really depends on the sys admin job. Some you just do a lot of manual terminal work, some bash, some UI (cloud/SAAS).

Then there are some jobs that involve writing a lot of terraform, ansible, custom ansible/chef modules, python scripts for deployment etc.

[quasi blaze]

it's also being familiar with Cisco routing and firewalls

[thick osprey]

Okay, that's a familiar role for me. I have someone on my team with those skills. Their title is Reliability Engineer which is a slightly overloaded title at my workplace.

You could move into that field but it is development adjacent outside of scripts needed for deployment and administrative actions.

[brittle void]

bro wtf is this code?
give the function a good name atleast
also, why are you converting the values into string here?

bcrypt.compare(String(currentPass), String(DataPassword))

i think all u need is just this

bcrypt.compare(currentPass as string, DataPassword as string)

unless if you know what you are doing and you're doing it intentionally
but also, isnt the values of json could be string type by default in here?

const {user, currentPassword, newPassword } = await req.json();

if not, you can still give it a type as json, or Record<string, string>

[uneven pine]

What JavaScript does to a mother fucker

[tardy rain]

I would avoid it tbh

[thick ore]

what if instead of nixos we had 𝓕𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓴𝔂OS

[rough sapphire]

hey

[green pelican]

AstolfOS

[gaunt scroll]

and instead of writing config in nix, you wrote config on people at diddy parties

[dapper dew]

Interesting stuff incrementally changing either the real or imaginary part of the julia set

The real part

The imaginary part

[dapper dew]

(continuation from here: #ot2-never-nester’s-nightmare message)

[young shoal]

real

[unkempt python]

fuck why is ot1 always like this

i swear

im going back to ot2

[stark oasis]

Just stay away from ot0 and you're good

[unkempt python]

nah ot0 is W chat

well, yesterday it was

[quasi blaze]

Anyone like Bleach?

[grave cove]

im somewhat of a bleach chugger myself

[carmine apex]

explains a few things tbh

[unkempt python]

💀 💀

[alpine tusk]

wow, it really does resemble a cat in this clip, like, a house cat cat type thing

[vale raven]

Whats that again?

[green pelican]

The drink? /j

[vale raven]

There’s a code thingy named the same

I just can’t remember what it is

[green pelican]

!pip bleach

[royal lake]

bleach v6.2.0

An easy safelist-based HTML-sanitizing tool.

Released on <t:1730226640:D>.

[vale raven]

Oh

Good lord

Right into the war zone

[vale raven]

Whats the use case?

[tardy rain]

Bleach the animu, dog

Bad dog

[unkempt python]

sooo if ur making a programming language

what is parsing supposed to do to the lexed tokens

and how do i make it runnable

i just don't understand what im supposed to do with parser.rs

[rough sapphire]

What is your target representation?

[unkempt python]

wym?

i'd hope to go compiled but that might be too complicated

[rough sapphire]

I'm not experienced, but I think the parser imposes some structure on the tokens. It results in a tree.

I think recursive decent is the most popular parsing method.

[unkempt python]

oh i get it now

[rough sapphire]

Yeah that might be assembly

Or I'd you want it could be C or Python.

[unkempt python]

how would i run given tree tho?

[rough sapphire]

I don't have all the answers but I know people here do. I'd open a help thread.

Hopefully you get some answers. But there are plenty of resources online.

[quasi blaze]

LMAO i mean the TV show

[unkempt python]

i will when i get some time

[vale raven]

oh good
Because escaping things on webpages sucks

[unkempt python]

what happened to vivek?

[grave cove]

he got cancelled

[unkempt python]

poor vivek

or bad vivek

[rough sapphire]

For what?

[carmine apex]

[rough sapphire]

I don't read off topic names.

These sorts of things don't occur to me.

[spare oriole]

TV show?

[quasi blaze]

Yes. Bleach the anime TV show

[spare oriole]

they're usually separated into their own categories

bleach the anime

vs

the rachel ray tv show

[low chasm]

to be honest it doesn't really matter what you call it 💀

[brittle void]

is it cancel or cancer?

but why cancek?

[quasi blaze]

Is being laid off the same as being fired?

[brittle void]

you need a girlfriend to get laid
but not while being fired
but in both ways, you'll be fucked

[thick osprey]

Not in the states, no. Not sure about other countries. Being laid off means you can qualify for unemployment. It can also come with benefits such as separation packages.

Being fired doesn't offer any of that.

[brittle void]

(but seriously imo, yes, they both were same)

u get incentives while being fired?

really?

[thick osprey]

That's not what I said.

[brittle void]

ok maybe i misunderstood the meaning of incentives
but u said this tho

It can also come with benefits such as separation packages

[thick osprey]

Yes, being laid off can come with benefits such as separation packages. Being fired does not. They are not the same.

[grave cove]

vivek

[warped sentinel]

"fired" implies the employee did something very wrong.
"laid off" implies it was no fault of the employee

[lament cairn]

If layoffs imply it wasn't the employee's fault, how do most companies decide who to layoff? Randomly?

[thick osprey]

At worse, yes.

[warped sentinel]

Why would the fact you are being laid off means you did something bad?

[carmine apex]

re you missed the wasn't

[warped sentinel]

Let's say the company decides to close their Seattle office and you happen to leave in Seattle. The fact you live in Seattle is not your fault

[warped sentinel]

where?

[lament cairn]

Yeah read what I said. If it isn't the employee's fault, what else decides if they're laid off?

[thick osprey]

Money, performance, reputation, favoritism, random chance...

[lament cairn]

Maybe I'm wording it poorly. I just woke up, my bad...

[warped sentinel]

Higher level people will decide who to let go based on the expected outcome

[thick osprey]

You could just work in an area of the company that no longer exists.

I was laid off by Target. They closed my store. This was nothing I did wrong.

[warped sentinel]

I asked to be laid off because I was in some circles and I wanted to start a company. So I had to go to my manager and ask to be let go (which surprised him to no end)

[carmine apex]

wait what why

why not just quit?

[thick osprey]

Be paid to leave. :)

[warped sentinel]

because then you don't get months of severance while you work on your startup

free funding

[thick osprey]

It's a bold move, but a good one.

[carmine apex]

i'm mildly surprised that's even possible

[thick osprey]

I imagine it was during a time the company was cutting back anyway?

[warped sentinel]

you would be surprised the things that go in corporate

[brittle void]

i think re might've requested in the most anime-esque tone to get what he wanted

[warped sentinel]

yeah, so might as well benefit from it

[brittle void]

so did u start ur company?

[thick osprey]

Yup. Be paid to leave.

[warped sentinel]

the worst part was the D day. People were surprised, emotional, etc. While I was trying to be respectful and not show I was super excited to start a startup

[brittle void]

what is D day?

dooms day?

[warped sentinel]

this is still a pretty emotional time if you are impacted and not exactly in the know

[warped sentinel]

the day it happens

[thick osprey]

Layoffs are rough emotionally for both sides of the party.

[brittle void]

people might be sad for u leaving the office, but inside you were just laughing to start ur startup

[warped sentinel]

indeed

[warped sentinel]

I was more worried about the people being let go

they were still great coworkers

[thick osprey]

I have friends that still haven't recovered from being laid off last year. It hurts to see it. All I can do is keep pushing them forward little by little. It's not their fault, but they take it that way.

[warped sentinel]

yep, especially in today's market, which is still quite brutal

[thick osprey]

It's no 2015s, that's for sure.

I need to kick my feet in the waters a bit though. Curious to see what it feels like out there.

[warped sentinel]

always be ready

[thick osprey]

Heh, I pretty much shut that down around 2021. Things are swinging back a different way though. Got a review coming up and I've been wearing three titles. >:3

[warped sentinel]

wow that's a lot!

what kind of titles?

[thick osprey]

senior software engineer, senior application engineer, and incident manager. Silo'ed on a team, not feeling like I have room to fly. We'll see how the review goes.

At least I've been pleasantly busy all the time.

[warped sentinel]

Main thing is to have fun

The rest will follow

[thick osprey]

For sure. I made the mistake of growing up once. It gave me ulcers and not much else. Fun is key. Curiosity, fun, and creativeness.

[carmine apex]

eggo can you eat pizza

[thick osprey]

If it's pizza my partner has made, yes. They make a darn good pizza. I can't have a lot of things I used to eat.

Pizza is one of the few things I miss. Not good pizza like what my partner makes. Junky, grease, slice pizza from the corner store. I miss that.

[quasi blaze]

Are you talking about work? We must have two different philosophies on having jobs then.

I work to later on enjoy the fruits of labour which includes having fun

[warped sentinel]

you can do both

[thick osprey]

mmmm, pizza.

[quasi blaze]

I never have seen work to either have fun nor to be boring, but to be productive

[thick osprey]

Those are the weakest little peppers ever and holy heck did they miss me up. xD

[warped sentinel]

you don't have to be miserable to be productive

[thick osprey]

I quite enjoy solving problems, being busy, and being productive. That's fun.

[quasi blaze]

I never said you had to

[grave cove]

its also generally easier to perform well if you enjoy your work

and performing well tends to lead to a lot of other good stuff

[warped sentinel]

indeed, and the opposite is true as well: you can enjoy what you are doing and still be productive

[warped sentinel]

You should look into the concept of ikigai

[unkempt python]

intereeesting

[timid latch]

The other words on there seem... Wrong, it's only a profession if you are good at it? It's only a passion if the world benefits? If I am good at what I love how is that a mission?

"my mission in life is sleeping"

[warped sentinel]

the relationship goes the other way around

I would suggest to read it as "this corner here is described as <foo>", not that <foo> is only and strictly only this corner

I would also point out this is confusing the finger for the moon

[timid latch]

It's what

[warped sentinel]

IT'S CONFUSING THE FINGER FOR THE MOON

[timid latch]

(also I have issues with the notion that a core reason "for being" is money, but that's another topic)

[warped sentinel]

you don't need an income over the course of your life?

[timid latch]

I'm today's society? Sure you need money.
But I don't think that should actually be a requirement to survive, but that's a whole political debate i am not getting into at 7am

We have built a society where people need money to survive, I think that's wrong. But I am not ready to debate about the foundations of society at this hour

[warped sentinel]

The great think about that diagram is that it still work if you don't care about being paid. You still have the three other bubbles

[marble grove]

What do u want everyone to have free food and houses lmao

Thats not how it works

[timid latch]

Yes?

[marble grove]

Impossible

[timid latch]

I am not saying it's easy

I am saying it's better

[marble grove]

If nobody worked how would we get food?

If nobody worked who would police the world

[timid latch]

I wasn't gonna do this

Who says people won't work? Some people enjoy farming, also I didn't say no money, I said it shouldn't be a requirement

[marble grove]

As if there was jo police you could commite crimes with no consequences

[timid latch]

i.e UBI

[marble grove]

Not enough people enjoy farming to produce enough for the whole world

[timid latch]

"people shouldn't live in poverty" => "the world is ending" to you?

[marble grove]

Who is going to dispose garbage

Noone wants to do that

[timid latch]

I never said no jobs

Or that people couldn't earn money

I said it shouldn't be a requirement to survive

[marble grove]

Well you need poverty for society to work, maybe we shouldnt have homeless people but if people are too lazy too work they shouldnt be paid

[timid latch]

And that's where we massively disagree

[marble grove]

Its not

[timid latch]

Research on stuff like UBI has shown that people will still seek out work

[marble grove]

You can get unemployment from the government

[warped sentinel]

that's a bit extreme

[marble grove]

Luckily it is very low amounts

[timid latch]

I mean in a perfect world all the "bad" jobs will be taken by machines and AI and humans can do whatever they like

[marble grove]

True, but again things like police must be run by humans

[timid latch]

(I am not saying "I think we can do this tomorrow" I am saying on a moral level I disagree with how our society works)

[marble grove]

Ok

I think our society is fine atm

[timid latch]

It definitely isn't

On so many levels

For one all that police and laws you keep mentioning? The people with big money just ignore them

[marble grove]

Not all of them

And i dont see why u think a society with no laws is going to imporve peoples lives

But thats ur choice

[soft violet]

Tricky at scale.

[timid latch]

When did I say no laws? I said that getting paid shouldn't be a requirement to not die

[marble grove]

Its not atm

[timid latch]

Say that to all the people in extreme poverty

[marble grove]

I hope u realise you can sit at home all day and get money from the government

[timid latch]

That depends on the country

[marble grove]

If u really dont wanna work just move to one of those countrys and do that

Anyway i gtg now

[warped sentinel]

that's why I moved the USA and became a shareholder

[timid latch]

You really think people in poverty simply "don't want to work"?

[marble grove]

Some dont

Some dont pay attention in school and end up as cleaners thier whole life

[timid latch]

And my original issue was with money's inclusion on this graph, I just find it very disturbing the notion of "if you don't earn money you don't have a reason to live"

[steady hound]

An astonishingly short-sighted comment right there. Bravo.

[marble grove]

As i said i gotta go but i dont see the big deal with that, working is something to do.

[timid latch]

You keep saying we need people to do those kind of jobs, and also keep talking badly about them, make up your mind

[marble grove]

No its fine if people wanna do those jobs but they should expect to be paid loads of em

[timid latch]

If they are so essential why shouldn't they get paid more?

[steady hound]

The world needs folks to clean our junk while we're busy doing other jobs.
I'd just like those folks to not be miserable while they do it, and live comfortable lives like I have the privilege to.
Not too radical of a position, I think.

[quasi blaze]

When people quit jobs after they got a new one, do they quit the day before the first day of their new job or do people give themselves a week or so break from working before their first day of their new job?

[harsh tundra]

They do what the contract obliges them to do. In most normal countries in the world you can't quit with next day effective, you have to put in your notice (and it usually is longer than 2 weeks in the US, because we actually have employee protections and the notice also applies when it's employer who wants to end the contract)

[timid latch]

I think they mean more so whether after that period and you fully leave your old job, how long until you start at a new one

[harsh tundra]

But with normal countries with actual worker laws, you have fully-paid leave days and after you put in your notice, your HR will make you use them (otherwise they gotta pay you for your unused leave). Thus already having a "break" between jobs.

It's always like this. E.g. 2m notice by law - 1m of getting your stuff in order, 1m of fully paid leave (it's 20days/year, so if all are unused it becomes 4x5 days because only work days).

[green pelican]

I heard you shouldn't quit until your first paycheck from ur new job

[young shoal]

in terms of finances, you should have savings to be able to sustain at least a few weeks of no job

[young shoal]

doesn't that mean having two jobs at once though?

[quasi blaze]

There’s a law that requires you to put a 2 week notice?

Companies could lay you off with a drop of a hat but you need to write up a two week notice…

[graceful basin]

here it is rather hard to fire an employee as a company, and you need to give 2-3 months notice (not sure).

[timid latch]

The point is it goes both ways. You need to give companies time to find a replacement, and they need to give you enough money to reasonably have time to find a job

[low chasm]

why do we have the obligation? maybe if it's a small business, I guess.

[timid latch]

I mean it depends on the position for sure, but stuff like managers and stuff is often important to get a replacement for. Another thing is if you manage stuff you need to have time to basically give somebody a crash course in it, idk if you're a are a sys admin or something they might have you at least write down instructions or directly teach your replacement

You don't want the only person who knows how the IT system is setup to just walk out on you

[tardy rain]

This probably (definitely) breaks the first job's contract

[lament cairn]

just don't let them find out

[young shoal]

and probably the second if you don't report it

[tardy rain]

Me when i do crime

The second job definitely knows, they have to handle payroll

(in the uk they know anyway)

[young shoal]

huh

[young shoal]

why does that mean they know

[tardy rain]

You have to give them docs from the first place you work at

For tax purposes

[young shoal]

o

[tardy rain]

People can still pull off overemployment but not the regular way of just signing contracts like you or I would

They do other shenanigans

Not sure what

[harsh tundra]

I said most normal countries. Not US. US doesn't have worker protections in place. In normal countries employer actually can't fire people like that unless has really good reasons, still has to follow the law and give the notice or give severance pay that is basically paying out the notice time. Considering that when fired, employee could argue in the court that it was unlawful - that, if won, then company would need to pay back the missed salary and social security payments... - even firing usually includes the severance pay because it's safer for the company.

[quasi blaze]

I didn’t know what “normal countries” was supposed to mean

[harsh tundra]

Idk about UK but in Poland there's social security paperwork as well because new employer has to register as paying it.
Although I technically haven't worked normal work contract to have all the details, I worked other forms of employment that are technically not real employment (so no worker protections, they're technically civil contracts and regulated under different laws).

[harsh tundra]

I said most, so not all, anyways. So even if you consider US normal, it clearly didn't fit the rest of the description = isn't in the "most" category here

I actually mentioned those most normal countries having longer notice than US's 2 weeks - actually suggesting I don't mean US when I go with my description

[quasi blaze]

The advice I have received from my friend with 10+ years of software development experience 🤔

[tardy rain]

That would be nice if they also didnt try and find a way to fire you with cause (no severance)

If your contract doesnt specify notice period you dont have a notice period, end of story

This feels very much like the tipping craze going on in the us

[graceful basin]

it is indeed rude to quit without notice, but there are cases where being polite with your employer is not useful or even actively harmful

[quasi blaze]

One of the most interesting worldviews about having a job or career that I have ever read on this server

[glossy niche]

https://www.linuxtoday.com/blog/german-state-schleswig-holstein-migrates-30000-pcs-to-libreoffice/

very rare German gov w

[lament cairn]

onlyoffice better

[graceful basin]

did it improve recently?

[quasi blaze]

Apparently if you leave weeks of notice there’s a likelihood that you could be welcomed back into the company in the future but I don’t get why a company would want to take an employee back after they resigned

[honest star]

Because that employee could still provide value to the company if they return later. If you left on good terms, then why not?

If someone leaves because they want to pursue a different role or want more money that the company is unable to offer, then I don't know why the company would hold that against the person

[low chasm]

my dad's done that a few times

he's been back at this one company like three times now

[lament cairn]

incredibly good terms

[low chasm]

I believe he works as a contractor though, so maybe it's different for that

[quasi blaze]

Completely different

[unkempt python]

it's always the most amazing thing when their is a conversation going on in ot one night, and it's still going on the next morning

crazy

[tardy rain]

Its not that different

The differences between employees and contractors dont matter to the team that has to work with you or the managers you report to

If you leave without notice why would they want you back

Contractor or employee

Just give your notice but remember, its a courtesy

Not an employer right

(in the us)

[marble grove]

anyone know good project ideas

not aoc

[quasi blaze]

What are you talking about? If you’re a contractor they could let you go without notice, you have to use your own equipment, you don’t have dental insurance (in Canada). Maybe it’s the same for the UK but I was the context was specifically about being a full-time worker

[tardy rain]

They could let you go without notice in the US if youre a full time employee as well

[quasi blaze]

????. You need to be under the PIP first

[marble grove]

im a begginer^

[tardy rain]

No you dont lol, if youre in an at will state youre just gone

[honest star]

Majority of employment in the US is "at-will" meaning both the employee and the employer can terminate the relationship at will and without cause

It's common for employers to first go through a PIP, because hiring is expensive and they want to cover their bases for potential discrimination lawsuits

[thick osprey]

It is true, though. The vast majority of employees in the states are "at-will". The employment can end at any time from either side.

[honest star]

The HR and benefits difference between a contractor and a full-time employee can be significant. But for their actual colleagues or the actual work teams, there can be very little difference.

[marble grove]

anyone got anyproject ideas

[honest star]

you've turned down like 3 suggestions, are you looking for something specific that the suggestions aren't meeting?

[marble grove]

what suggestings

pls lmk

...

exactly

[honest star]

aoc and like most of kindling

The first week of aoc is great for beginners

[marble grove]

what even is aoc

[honest star]

advent of code, #aoc-faq

[marble grove]

it says words like elm

idk what imsupposed to do with that

[honest star]

the faq does not

[marble grove]

whydoes it say elm tho

[honest star]

Where are you seeing elm in the FAQ?

[marble grove]

im not

in announcements it asys

elm

why

[honest star]

It's for language roulette, which you don't need to worry about. Take a look through the FAQ and then you can try Day 1

[dapper dew]

This year seems pretty approachable

[marble grove]

ok

how do i check if im right

[honest star]

the website will give you input to use, then you run your code with that input, and give the website the result. It'll tell you if you're correct or not

[marble grove]

oh ok

[low chasm]

I'll get to the puzzles this weekend 🥺

I wanted to write a blog series for it, but my static site generator decided to break, and I don't have the time to fix it 😔

[marble grove]

ik theres a prebuilt sort thing but i wanna make my own

anyone know whats wrong with this

[dapper dew]

You may want to ask in #aoc-solution-hints or #1047673173447020564

[marble grove]

ok

dont wanna get spoilters tho

😭

[dapper dew]

#aoc-solution-hints should have code properly spoilered

|| like this ||

[marble grove]

im on day 1 tho

if anyone could help me here that would be great

if not, forget it ig

[green pelican]

i just use sphinx without autodoc to make my site 💀

speaking of

i need to push my new files

[marble grove]

anyone know??

ahh i fixed it

i needed to add a passes debug so it will iterate until no passes are made

[low chasm]

[lament cairn]

https://vxtwitter.com/asahiyamazoo1/status/1864650674090463357.mp4

[grave cove]

what is bro doing

[lament cairn]

Activities

[rough sapphire]

Everything is covered in snow. Maybe he likes the stone becuases it doesn't have snow on it

[unkempt python]

i remember when i had a blog

and a pages site

[steep sentinel]

he is itching

so rubbing itself on rock

[vernal lark]

Does anyone have any recommendations on antivirus livecds? Just saw a friends laptop show suspicious activity while he was afk like someone else was connected. Haven't done this stuff in many years so I'm out of the loop on the toolsets

[uneven pine]

Just wipe and reformat

The only real antivirus is common sense and when that fails it's time to start from scratch

[lament cairn]

Reinstall and reset passwords. Don't bother with AV live isos

[harsh tundra]

This but I like to have something simple installed for simple alerts like link has infected js. I remember I was checking something many years ago for my father on his friend's company's website and Avast alerted, lol. I still use Avast but i gutted most bloat and disabled the alerts.

[lament cairn]

Oh god Avast. Hasn't it become pretty much adware now?

[spare oriole]

and malware

[uneven pine]

Yeah avast is the virus

And it's working

[harsh tundra]

Idk, I know it pops the self-ads... But last time I wanted to remove it (>5y ago?) I got tempted by the "modify installation" instead - which got rid of most of the annoying bloat, lol. I just get an occasional popup after restart that I should upgrade to pro, not really much else

[glossy niche]

luna the C supremacist 60 yo CS professor at every university

[glossy niche]

was it ever not?

[lament cairn]

I think like a decade ago it was okay

Not good. Just okay

[glossy niche]

mmm, i had it a decade ago but i dont actualyl remember using it

just iunstalled it and hoped it just works lol

[lament cairn]

Same that's about the extent of my usage back then

[glossy niche]

lol

[harsh tundra]

I don't think I remember any good ones. Just the ones that were not that bad. Choosing less evil, basically

That's how Avast for me has been all those years - after gutting it, it became usable again - ie it actually stays in the background most of the time.

[uneven pine]

While piping every bit of your data that it collects back home

[vale hull]

Avast is malware

Ah yes, assume that everyone can just buy new hardware

[timid latch]

I mean, most software isn't supporting old tech, so yes I honestly think that's a reasonable thing if supporting it is more work than its worth for the amount of users

Now 32bit vs 64bit is usually not an issue for most software, but for a os/distro I can imagine there's some low level stuff that they have to maintain different code branches for

[vale hull]

actually, they do say "if possible"

I get it, the percentage of x86 users are small but throwing money at the problem shouldn't be number 1; it's wasteful

[timid latch]

How long is it now since 64bit became standard? It's gonna go out of support at some point

[graceful basin]

you can probably get an x64 machine for damn near free

[timid latch]

You don't see software providing 16bit compatible versions anymore do you

[green pelican]

devs assume this by bloating their site with JS every day

[vale hull]

yeah, I know, and I have gotten tons of PCs dumped onto me for free

[vale hull]

exactly

[lament cairn]

64bit machines have existed for so long I think saying that is excessive

[vale hull]

Then, 32-bit was released in 1985

There’s embedded applications with 32 bit but then they’re probably not running Fedora or even Linux

ykw, my point is invalid since Fedora is made for desktop and server environments, not embedded or resource-limited environments so it makes more sense to drop it.

Debian seems to fit embedded better.

[graceful basin]

yea, realistically modern fedora would not play well with machines that old

[unkempt python]

guys

i've seen weird ot names

this...

is this like rent-a-gf in japan??????

[jaunty wraith]

no, #ot0-psvm’s-eternal-disapproval message

[glossy niche]

damn that's from 2021

April no less

[spice storm]

bro what is this channel name

[brittle void]

grandmas for sale!!!
20% off

[acoustic moss]

lol i dont remember this

[small coral]

oh that makes so much sense

[willow narwhal]

Anyone having a personal digital music collection: How do you deal with audiobooks and stuff like that? I like having it in my collection but the amount of chapters makes global shuffle not that easy to use..

[fathom musk]

I wanna buy grandmas too

And learn new recipes

Or just enjoy their old style dishes

Or uh idk listen to their wacky stories

[harsh tundra]

I don't have a big collection, but for what I have: just another directory, instead of real "global shuffle" select the music folder and shuffle it, leaving the audiobook folder alone

[willow narwhal]

Right, that would mean I store them somehow separately

[harsh tundra]

If you want to have all audio in central folder, consider it being bring "audio" instead of "music" - regardless of whatever name it may need to have (although my phone seems to have a separate "Audiobooks" folder premade, I only use "Music" folder)

[willow narwhal]

I use Navidrome, a web app and protocol so I can listen to all music on the go. The only way I can think of making this work is with a giant "all music" playlist

I want to be able to listen to audiobooks on it, but never randomly

I could also host two different Navidrome instances, but a) :( and b) I'm not sure all apps can deal with multiple connected servers..

[harsh tundra]

I'm trying to google but it seems there's no category support like this. :c
But it seems there is some kind of intelligent playlists - what about tagging (with code) all audiobook files as audiobooks (e.g. as genre) and then making such a smart playlist that grabs everything but audiobooks?
I found a reddit post talking how someone uses tagging to automatically filter podcasts...

[harsh tundra]

But most answers I find is that people use Audiobookshelf for audiobooks and podcasts instead

[deep pawn]

I use the Books app

[willow narwhal]

Can you give it a folder of mp3s?

[deep pawn]

Yes

[willow narwhal]

I'll look into it, thanks!

[deep pawn]

Assuming you are in the Apple ecosystem

but it's how I do it, so it doesn't really matter if you are or not

i.e. it's still my answer to the question

[willow narwhal]

That was gonna be my next question. I'm half-way in the Apple ecosystem, so it doesn't fit my needs..

[deep pawn]

Yeah since I am I have no idea of the alternatives

but yeah I can simply import a whole folder of MP3s, it remembers progress perfectly, and syncs perfectly to my phone and ipad or whatever

chapters and book cover art work

[fallow heath]

@rough sapphire thank u

[rough sapphire]

yeah, np np

[fathom musk]

I presume atmospheric thanked u since u sold him a grandma or smthn
Congrats on first sales 👍

Btw wanna chess960?

[rough sapphire]

sold him a grandma 💀

[paper sequoia]

The navidrome (discord) server might have ideas, however can't guarantee that

[solemn tulip]

you could do mpd and http streams for fun

[willow narwhal]

How would that work? I've used mpd in the past, but I don't see how it would solve my problem.

[solemn tulip]

you can have a http stream output, and you can control things remotely

though it's closer to "hacky internet radio" than streaming service

[willow narwhal]

I know, but would just give me a hacky version of what I already have (minus multi-user features I think?). It wouldn't solve the audiobook issue.

[solemn tulip]

is the issue that you truly have audiobooks in the exact same directory structure as music?

if so that's more of an organizational issue and you should just separate out audiobooks as a sibling directory or whatever

[limpid coral]

Sharing my project here as suggested, it's a tool which roast your resume and give insights in a fun way, try it out :https://resume-roast-ukhi.onrender.com/

[brittle void]

make a way to store all the resumes you get from this website into a s3 bucket
and later sell all that data in darkweb
get money
easy profits

[uneven pine]

Probably what they're already doing

[brittle void]

shit

i thought its a new business idea

got anything similar to this?

cuz i might make one

[quasi blaze]

Anyone know how I can check if my cpu is undervolted or overclocking?

[uneven pine]

Your UEFI settings for such

If you haven't manually done it... Then it's not

[quasi blaze]

My buddy helped me build my PC. There’s a chance that he undervolted or overclocked my CPU because he was expressing concerns about me, not having a GPU

[uneven pine]

Okay then go check UEFI

Or just ask him

[quasi blaze]

In my case, HWiNFO is my UEFI right?

[uneven pine]

No

Consult your motherboard manual for how to enter UEFI settings

It may be labeled as "BIOS" still by some manufacturers

[quasi blaze]

It must be BIOS then. I am in the settings menu. Which option do I need to select?

[uneven pine]

Check and any all settings related to CPU voltage and frequency

Make sure you don't accidentally disable XMP for your RAM

[quasi blaze]

What am I checking for?

[uneven pine]

Things not at the default setting

[young shoal]

check for an internet connection

then you can use google

[uneven pine]

Shouldn't even need to do that there should be a clear indicator if a setting isn't default

[young shoal]

yes

but also, discord is not google

[uneven pine]

And Google is an awful search engine that doesn't even give relevant results anymore

C'mon man as much shit as I've given keezy, at least this is a valid question he's asking

What's up with ME being the voice of reason today?

[lament cairn]

there's also a lot of crappy advice that gets pushed to the top of search results

[uneven pine]

^

[young shoal]

so ? he is a software developer, he can use google

[uneven pine]

Dude he's not a software developer

He's like 15

[young shoal]

i mean, ok

[tardy rain]

🤨

He's a grown man

[quasi blaze]

Oh my god I’m dying right now 💀

[young shoal]

maybe you should be concerned that your behavior comes across as a 15 year old

[quasi blaze]

Me?

[brittle void]

bro if you're gonna be dead, dm me ur home address
i'll come there to eat at the funeral repast

[quasi blaze]

It’s an expression

[brittle void]

ik

im making a joke too

[young shoal]

yes

[young shoal]

also kinda interesting that i was developing software at 15 !

for relatively generous definitions of software

[quasi blaze]

Not sure how asking for advice to check if my PC is undervolted or overclocking is behaving like a 15 year old

[young shoal]

it's more about the total impression, not just this one instance

[uneven pine]

^

[quasi blaze]

At the end the day, it’s your opinion

[brittle void]

collection of similar opinion of some people forms normality

[quasi blaze]

Also forms an ad populum fallacy but I digress. I’m seriously trying to focus on troubleshooting my PC

[uneven pine]

If you are genuinely not a teenager you have fooled me thoroughly with your regular intervals of absence followed by intellectual posturing.

[young shoal]

it's not a fallacy, because the argument isn't that you are actually 15 years old. it's that you might be concerned about the impression you are giving

[quasi blaze]

Let’s stop derailing

[young shoal]

no

[quasi blaze]

I wanna focus on troubleshooting my PC

[brittle void]

then seek a professional irl

[young shoal]

use search engines. or chatgpt

[uneven pine]

I already gave you the advice you needed for that

Do not use chatgpt

That's an awful suggestion

[brittle void]

cuz helping just through text is just not gonna help

[young shoal]

nah

[small coral]

other 15 year olds are catching strays here

[uneven pine]

I do like cats

[small coral]

valid point

[uneven pine]

Wanna see mine

[brittle void]

no face reveal?

[uneven pine]

No

Hold on

Nope nevermind ain't on this phone

[quasi blaze]

I just discovered that my XMP is disabled

[tardy rain]

Stop being 15

[unkempt python]

im developing software at 13!

[torn pier]

and i hacked my phone when i was going to 6 year of primary school. yea…

[unkempt python]

lol it's just so funny how my dad keeps saying like "start young" to stand out but like bro everyone started young

(and i wont stand out either way ngl)

[torn pier]

life happens…

[unkempt python]

yes

[torn pier]

:>

[unkempt python]

https://tenor.com/view/virtual-hugs-virtual-hug-gif-27180713

[torn pier]

:>>>

[brittle void]

idk what i was doing during 13 and 16 while yall are creating software at that time

[torn pier]

i've been programming in scratch when i was like 10…

[brittle void]

i started using scratch at line 12

[unkempt python]

lollllll

[torn pier]

xD

[brittle void]

does that mean i was coding?

[unkempt python]

i was in scratch at like 9

then i went to html and css and was like im crushing it

then i tried js

then i give up for 2 years

[torn pier]

i didn't gave up yet…