ot1-perplexing-regexing

[high haven]

[young shoal]

networking goes hard 😩 😤

[high haven]

seriously

like if he didnt already have a good job, pretty sure they would want to snag him

[young shoal]

well, they just need to make a better offer 😩

[high haven]

anyway maybe ill also ask some of my other friends

[low chasm]

I was productive today 😤

[high haven]

[high haven]

aboo you never elaborated

the people want to know

[young shoal]

yk, i'm basically a full stack dev

[high haven]

show you me your website that has cool react components

also i knew you were still stuck on this

[young shoal]

uh, i have cool blazor components

that's basically the same thing

[high haven]

dotnet

right

[young shoal]

ya

[high haven]

yeah they would put you on one of the dotnet teams

that gets to maintain our legacy codebase

[young shoal]

😭

[high haven]

hey

maybe you can rewrite it

[young shoal]

i'm already dying in a rewrite

[high haven]

guess the build time

of the main site

/codebase

[young shoal]

if i'm leaving my job i don't want another rewrite project

idk 10 minutes?

what

[high haven]

dont even ask me

[young shoal]

how is that even possible

[high haven]

idek what theyre doing over there

[young shoal]

i could probably hand compile faster than that

[high haven]

i just know i will stay far away

yeah i mean someone suggested and proposed something that would reduce it by half

but idk if it ever happened

[young shoal]

you have to have like, billions of lines of code. or you doing some incredible static codegen, wild monomorphization or something

[high haven]

honestly could not tell you

there is a lot of code thats been stacked on top of each other over the years

[young shoal]

😩 that's how it be 😔

[high haven]

lot of custom stuff that nowadays would probs be outdated

dont ask me. idk

[young shoal]

ridiculous

that's like 1970s speeds

literally start the build when you leave, come back in the morning type speeds

[high haven]

hey maybe i misunderstood. i only ever pay half or less than half attention in those types of meetings anyway

maybe ill ask my friend from that team tomorrow

[young shoal]

why would you be in those meetings at all

[high haven]

its one of those all IT meetings

or whatever

[young shoal]

huh

[high haven]

idk man

dont huh me

[young shoal]

but how does that come up, shouldn't it be about more general things

not like, specific product problems

[high haven]

its like the main platform that houses everything

idk how to explain without getting into the particulars

maybe ill dm you later

[young shoal]

does it happen to be quite monolithic

[high haven]

the definition of a monolith

but with all the complexity of microservices

the worse of both worlds

[young shoal]

interesting

[high haven]

anyway, you come across anything interesting lately

tech-related

[young shoal]

i learned about something i already knew about in class?

we learned about locks

wanna hear about those

i've mostly been dying to midterms, so not much new i've heard of. besides, i haven't even finished learning the old stuff, can't get to new stuff yet 😩

[high haven]

sure

[young shoal]

apparently they implement them with an assembly instruction called "test and set" or "swap"

[high haven]

is this operating systems

[young shoal]

yeah

locks, yk

[high haven]

i see

[young shoal]

so "test and set" returns the existing value and sets the register to 1, whereas "swap" gives you the existing value and sets the register to a value you give

[high haven]

[young shoal]

so since it's atomic, you can use them to implement locks. if the value you got is 0, then you own the lock. if it's 1, then you need to sleep and try again later. i think

something like that

[high haven]

fascinating

[young shoal]

truly

i think we have a quiz on wednesday actually 😔

[high haven]

bummer

[young shoal]

atomics are actually quite interesting. compilers are good enough at optimizing to reorder instructions, so if you have

x = 3
y = 4
x = x * 2
``` the actual instructions might be something like
```py
x = 6
y = 4
```which is difficult for thread safety because now you don't know what order the assignment will happen in

i don't think we cover memory ordering in the course 😦 which is sad because it's quite cool

[low chasm]

🥺

[high haven]

you could always idk

take the advanced OS class

[low chasm]

I programmed today

[high haven]

which is probs a grad course

[young shoal]

i intend to. it is, yeah

[low chasm]

I've been in a slump for like two weeks now

[high haven]

but you could also not

wait youre into OS?

damn

[young shoal]

eh?

[high haven]

ayyy

[low chasm]

got some decent headway on my blog

[high haven]

oh?

anything you want to share?

[low chasm]

5th rewrite of the codebase 😤

[high haven]

ah classic

[low chasm]

my first blog post on the blog will be about how I built the blog

[young shoal]

tell me you're using object storage for the articles this time

the classic

[low chasm]

lmao

[high haven]

also classic for devs

[high haven]

what was last time

[young shoal]

i want to take all the courses 😩. idk which ones though since i can't take them all due to time constraints

[low chasm]

a database of html may have been in the mix

[young shoal]

i think html in a TEXT column

[high haven]

you cannot take all the courses. i mean you can also go to grad school

[high haven]

bruh

[low chasm]

it's proper now

I did have actual reasoning for the database of html

[high haven]

oh?

[low chasm]

I forget what it was, but I knew I had it

[high haven]

i mean as long as its a decent reason

[young shoal]

there's like 2 reasons, 1) transaction atomicity and uhh

2. easier to use

[high haven]

have you at least decided all your CS electives

or nah

[young shoal]

nah

[low chasm]

the whole thing was due to me not properly planning what it is I wanted the ssg to do, and overengineering to meet my differing demands

[high haven]

what about next year electives

[young shoal]

i haven't decided any electives, just the order i want to take required courses and geneds in

[low chasm]

I originally wanted to have a pseudo ssg where I could use serve all the posts statically, but have the search functionality use the database and sqlites full text search

[high haven]

ah i would be tempted to try to figure out my electives

[low chasm]

however now I want a complete static site generator, so no more pseudo ness

[high haven]

mostly bc they dont always offer every elective every semester

like fall vs. spring or whatever

[young shoal]

yeah there's that too

[low chasm]

I'll incrementally generate a search index instead

it'll be so based

[high haven]

oh?

[young shoal]

well i sorta have things in mind. there's a discrete structures course, i want to take calc 3 and real analysis at least. there's a graduate "algorithm design" course but it looks kinda weird so i might not take that

[high haven]

full text search is so old school. semantic search when

jk

only ai devs

[high haven]

[low chasm]

AI search would be wild

[young shoal]

i don't know what that emoji means

[low chasm]

I've got school tomorrow 😔 long weekend over

[high haven]

i mean at least you have your math courses planned out. math minor when

[young shoal]

i'm gonna try calc 3 then see if i want to commit to a math minor, heh

[high haven]

thats smart

[low chasm]

what does AP Calc BC correspond to? Calc 1?

[high haven]

how many more courses would you even need

[young shoal]

calc 1 and 2

[low chasm]

I see

[young shoal]

idk. a few more calc courses probably

[low chasm]

and multivariable?

[young shoal]

no

[low chasm]

no, like, what does multivariable correspond to

[young shoal]

oh

calc 3

[low chasm]

I see

[high haven]

ah i would so tempted to figure this out but im weird like that

[young shoal]

well i can look, it's all listed

[grave cove]

Wondering if I should just take calc 3 next semester tbh

[high haven]

i mean

[young shoal]

wait it's actually so mid wtf

[high haven]

oh?

[high haven]

like 2 more courses or something?

[high haven]

that was basically me and a music minor

[low chasm]

lmfaoo

[young shoal]

i should just do a math major

[low chasm]

what's the reqs for that?

why do another major in the first place?

[high haven]

so im assuming you already have to take linear alg anyways. then we count real analysis. then its just what a few more courses?

[young shoal]

2 more, yeah

[high haven]

discrete

yeah 2 more

[high haven]

bruhhhh

[young shoal]

if i want to take the courses anyway, it's just getting credit, really

[low chasm]

I see

[young shoal]

that's what happens when there's significant overlap between the subjects, lmao

[low chasm]

CS must be a lot of math

I'm not excited 😩

[high haven]

yeah

[high haven]

||good||

[young shoal]

you could always take one of the low-cal majors but like

don't do that

[low chasm]

low calorie majors?

[young shoal]

less math, like "software engineering"

[low chasm]

I see

I'd rather just do cs

[high haven]

what do they replace it with? just more "systems" courses

[young shoal]

tbh it's probably fine, i don't know that employers would mind

[high haven]

?

[young shoal]

i think more practical courses, like networking or something

[high haven]

like "web dev"

[low chasm]

it's not that I dislike math

[high haven]

or something

[young shoal]

yeah that too

[high haven]

ah networking is good

maybe distributed systems 👁️

i would do that

[young shoal]

i plan to 👀

also look at this

[low chasm]

my cousin is doing...telecommunications? She had a programming course

[young shoal]

so i wonder if that counts for both

[high haven]

anyway you had to have performance credits for this and i had more than enough

but that was a long time ago

[low chasm]

can you play music

[grave cove]

it's fun

[low chasm]

I want to learn an instrument

I played the viola in middle school

[grave cove]

yeah I play your mom

[young shoal]

we have a "introduction to distributed systems", but i can't take it yet, and it's not offered every year. if i miss the opportunity to take it i will be very sad

[high haven]

yes but the performance credit was in choir because i was in the mixed choir in uni

[high haven]

👁️

you need to take this

psv

[low chasm]

you can be the vocals, I'll be instrumental with the viola, we can start a band

[young shoal]

i'll do it for you rex

[high haven]

kill someone for it

[grave cove]

i did band/marching band for like 5 years but I got bored

[high haven]

🔪

[low chasm]

Robin can be drums

[grave cove]

my trumpet is collecting dust

😔

[low chasm]

pub do you play anything

[grave cove]

ofc he's the player

[low chasm]

if not you can be the narrator

[young shoal]

no

[low chasm]

narrator it is

[young shoal]

actually i must soon register for next semester

[high haven]

i mean i think it would good esp if you think youre going to be building bigger stuff in the future and not just idk be a regular web dev

[young shoal]

i don't actually want to be a web dev 😭

but yeah. i wouldn't actually just be taking it for you, lol. i'm interested

[high haven]

ok lmk if you get in

[grave cove]

bruh it's that time already?

[high haven]

i will live vicariously through you

[grave cove]

Wtf man school just started

[young shoal]

well i've got like 20 days

[young shoal]

i'll give you my notes 😩

i also want to take more theory of computation courses

i see you

[high haven]

lol i spy an sg

[young shoal]

🕵️

This course introduces the techniques used in the design and implementation of web applications. Using development environments such as Dreamweaver, Visual Studio, Eclipse, Netbeans, and SQL Management Studio, students write code for the browser (HTML, Cascading Style Sheets, javascript, ajax), web application server (JSP, PHP, or C# .NET), and database server (SQL, stored procedures, triggers). Students learn about internet protocols and how to work with web application objects (e.g., request, response, session). Students learn how design patterns such as MVC (Model-View-Controller) can and should be applied to the multi-tiered, distributed software that make up today's web applications. XML (a format commonly used to transfer data over the internet) and web services (a method call to a remote computer over the internet) are discussed and demonstrated. Each student will program their own web application, expanding on its functionality each week in the lab.
look how sad this course is 😔

"Web Application Programming"

there's also a "real time computer systems" course which sounds quite fun

meh but i can't take it yet. i need to take dsa next semester, then the fun courses

[grave cove]

pub are you taking compilers class rn

or was that os

[young shoal]

no, maybe next semester

[grave cove]

oh ok

i really wanna take that class

[young shoal]

we have a compiler design course but it's not offered every year

but it looks really cringe

[high haven]

oh my god why is every line of this so painful

[young shoal]

ikr

[high haven]

my swe prof was at least decent

but thats bc he was adjunct

and his day job was as a senior swe

[grave cove]

Dreamweaver

[young shoal]

dreamweaver in 2023 😔

actually, any of those things in 2023 😔

[high haven]

seriously

seriously x2

[young shoal]

though SSMS and SQLServer might be useful

[high haven]

yeah those are mainstays

still

[young shoal]

there is a "principle of database systems" course too. the description looks kinda weird though

[high haven]

oh?

[young shoal]

This course will cover the fundamental concepts of database systems, with an emphasis on relational database systems. It will cover both the theory and practice of relational databases, including Codd's original relational model, the relational algebra and calculus, and normalization. Students will learn how to do database design using the (extended) entity-relationship model. There will be a semester-long project in which students will design and implement an actual database, using an existing relational database management system, such as Access, MySQL, or Oracle.

[high haven]

ah this is normal

relational algebra is always covered

and boyce codd and all the normal forms

might be a bit basic for you considering your internship

but also might be good

to have it under your belt

hmm

if they let you swap out that relational database project with another type of database, it might be worthwhile for you

otherwise id maybe skip it and learn on your own?

[grave cove]

rex

what was your favorite course in undergrad

[high haven]

idk if i have a favorite but i did like one of the seminar classes my last year

it was an architecture seminar

can you tell i had extra time

[young shoal]

i should totally make that one of my projects though. a database that works with the postgres protocol thing

[grave cove]

[young shoal]

but i want to learn about columnar things

[grave cove]

why no music minor

[high haven]

anyway

that was a lifetime ago

[grave cove]

would've been so cute 🥺

[high haven]

bc i ended up lazy senior year

"lazy"

[grave cove]

classic

[high haven]

dude you should

[young shoal]

This course will expose students to recently emerged and fast moving technology of big data and cloud computing. It will cover a spectrum of topics from core techniques in data management and analysis to highly-scalable data processing using parallel database systems. Students will be introduced to big data ecosystems such as Hadoop, Spark, Storm and MapReduce; cloud technologies such as Amazon EC2, Microsoft Azure and Google Cloud; data management tailored to cloud and big data such as NoSQL, Google Big Table/Apache HBase, and introductory applications to big data and cloud environment. Students will work directly with a selected set of these platforms, compare and contrast their relative strengths and weaknesses, and characterize the problems they are designed to solve.
"recently emerged"
hadoop

[high haven]

like snowflake, bigquery, etc.

[grave cove]

bro

[high haven]

heck even if they let you do a project with duckdb

thatd be cool

[young shoal]

"data management tailored to cloud and big data such as NoSQL" 🤨

[rugged owl]

|| Hadoop never going away||

[young shoal]

mapreduce is cool apparently, though

[high haven]

no one talks about hadoop anymore bc its all managed by the cloud providers

[young shoal]

ooh, i forgot. i wanted to take a numerical methods course too

[high haven]

spark is still relevant though

for big data processing

spark is built on top of hadoop

so theres that

its good just to know conceptually but you probably wont need to worry about implementation

unless idk you end up working at azure or something

[grave cove]

the horror

[young shoal]

that honestly seems cool though

also when i got interviewed i had time to ask questions, right. one of my interviewers works on the platform team

the scale they work at is quite incredible

[high haven]

[grave cove]

this guy and his scale

[young shoal]

idr exact numbers but they were doing a large amount of qps or something

[high haven]

math minor set in stone

[young shoal]

i liked my prof for math for cs 1 and he recommended i take numerical methods

[high haven]

contemporary soci theory was pretty cool too. the prof always came in on a skateboard.

[young shoal]

based??

[high haven]

he really liked my final project i remember that

[high haven]

nice nice

[young shoal]

they gave me a 12/10 on a final project thing

[high haven]

psv the real deal

[young shoal]

like, apparently it was not expected to prove the things, just assert them

[high haven]

also bruh:

i mean

[young shoal]

hmmm. i always flip flop on this idea

[grave cove]

bro I hope he's still teaching

[high haven]

i think it would be good

[high haven]

[high haven]

honestly, i think its getting to the point where some basic level of competency is needed

[young shoal]

i think there would need to be an abstract version which is just logical thinking couched in programming

[grave cove]

honestly people wouldn't believe just how incompetent genz are with technology

[high haven]

what do you think about stuff like "how the internet works"/light "networking"/etc.

[high haven]

honestly though

i think we had this convo before

but not sure if you were there robin

[grave cove]

dont recall

[high haven]

aboo and psv were

[young shoal]

¯_(ツ)_/¯ seems ok in theory

[high haven]

you werent #ot2-never-nester’s-nightmare message

[grave cove]

yeah I took 2 years of DE networking class in high school at CC. I hated it then but it helped

[young shoal]

as long as it was super abstract

[high haven]

how abstract should it be for high school level

"did you know computers talk to each other" lel

[young shoal]

"what happens when you type google.com and hit enter"

[grave cove]

i mean studying networking is kinda removing the abstraction don't you think

[young shoal]

it looks up the IP then goes there

[high haven]

unironically this

[young shoal]

ya

[stuck niche]

Hey I'm new to programming can you help me at my problem

[grave cove]

also I think actually training on how to be literate with a computer is probably also important

[grave cove]

#❓｜how-to-get-help

[young shoal]

fr. mandatory word and excel classes

[grave cove]

please

our first lab in chemistry was actually just learning word and excel

like entering equations, using auto fill, etc

[high haven]

table stakes

[grave cove]

which should be expected of you already coming into uni but like ok lol

i blame phones and social media

[high haven]

1A districts be like

[grave cove]

kids these days

[grave cove]

What are those

[high haven]

oh

you never did any kind of UIL?

extracuricculars?

sports?

[grave cove]

nah

[high haven]

band?

[grave cove]

least involved student

[high haven]

UIL Math?

[grave cove]

😼

[high haven]

[grave cove]

I tried but I thought it was stupid

[high haven]

nevermind then. the joke was lost

[grave cove]

😔

should've been more involved

[high haven]

nah

anyway im still thinking about this high school computer class

[grave cove]

why

[high haven]

i guess thats all thats needed

[grave cove]

what about it

[high haven]

i feel like im missing something

but whatever

[grave cove]

🤨

[high haven]

its high school

[grave cove]

me when I realize you can't get high in high school

[high haven]

your average kiddo probs wont care anyway

[grave cove]

we need more engineers 😔

[high haven]

software or

[grave cove]

just engineers

we need to instill that into students from a young age

[high haven]

all of the non-software eng i know have had issues finding jobs

rip them

[grave cove]

yeah but most of them suck

[high haven]

🕯️

[young shoal]

😔

[grave cove]

I should've clarified

we need more actual engineers*

[high haven]

half of them have switched to some type of programming and things have changed for them

[young shoal]

there are actually less and less boys going to college

they also do worse in college

[high haven]

what is actual*

[grave cove]

that at least makes sense

[young shoal]

I tell all my engineering friends to learn programming lol

[grave cove]

prompt engineering

[high haven]

nah thats an exercise, not a profession

just like feature engineering

is an exercise

[young shoal]

there's pretty much no field where programming will not make you better at your job

[grave cove]

kill switch engineer

[high haven]

no one is a feature engineer

[acoustic moss]

its a lifestyle

[high haven]

as you should

i mean

what

but honestly though

[grave cove]

but this is curious

[high haven]

everyone from double E to biomed

[grave cove]

surely there must be a paper on this

[high haven]

the ones who make it end up switching to programming

[acoustic moss]

did you call EE double E

[young shoal]

lmao

[high haven]

double e

[grave cove]

E squared

[young shoal]

you say double e out loud you don't type double e

[high haven]

double e

[high haven]

make me

[grave cove]

EE still has less syllables

[acoustic moss]

double u double u double u

[grave cove]

why would you say double e in any scenario

[acoustic moss]

fr

[grave cove]

uuuuuu

[young shoal]

ee is hard to discern

[acoustic moss]

skill issue

[high haven]

double e

[grave cove]

Keith the double e

[acoustic moss]

theres actually an EEE degree in some places here

[high haven]

whats the third one

electronics

[acoustic moss]

electronics & electrical engg

[high haven]

thats what i thought

[acoustic moss]

smort

[high haven]

what makes it different than something like

computer & electrical engineering

[high haven]

they call this ECE here

[young shoal]

some schools also have ECE, electrical and computer engineering

[acoustic moss]

ece means the electronics degree here

[high haven]

wild

[grave cove]

ECEN

[acoustic moss]

electronics & communications engg

[grave cove]

me when polsci

[acoustic moss]

theres no undergrad degree for electronics in US right

just EE

[grave cove]

I mean

There's all sorts of funky degrees nowadays

i have a bachelors in vidya

[young shoal]

electronics sounds like computer engineering

or electrical engineering

[high haven]

communications?

like telecommunications?

[acoustic moss]

ye

[high haven]

wild

[acoustic moss]

its typically the second most sought after

after cs

[high haven]

if electronics has dif scope than ECE, then no

[high haven]

wait why

[acoustic moss]

wdym

its what students want

idk

[young shoal]

wack

[high haven]

[acoustic moss]

ee is usually next in line

[high haven]

is that how it works

[acoustic moss]

then mech and chem

[high haven]

they dont cap it

[acoustic moss]

theres cutoff ranks

[high haven]

interesting

[young shoal]

it's what the people want

[acoustic moss]

honestly like 90% of engg students dont want anything in particular

they just opt for the "highest" branch they can get into with their rank

[young shoal]

classic

[grave cove]

huh

here it's mechanical, CS, and aero

[high haven]

interesting

is there a reason or bc thats just how it is

[high haven]

my old roommate was aero

[grave cove]

hows he doing now

[high haven]

thats an awkward conversation

lets just skip that

[grave cove]

but not surprised. I think this uni is big for aerospace

[high haven]

real big

its one of the more competitive programs

[acoustic moss]

its kinda self perpetuating
best students get the highest ranks -> they take the "highest" branch X -> they get good jobs because theyre good students -> next batch sees branch X gets good jobs -> best students of next batch also take X

[high haven]

that makes sense

[grave cove]

Not as much as CS it seems

[high haven]

and then companies probably see branch X has best graduates or something like that

[grave cove]

actually no. CS just has more applicants

[acoustic moss]

yeah

[high haven]

and then the cycle repeats itself

interesting interesting

[grave cove]

society

[high haven]

in which

we live

[grave cove]

allegedly

[high haven]

presumably

[acoustic moss]

the biggest choice we make is probably whether you care more about getting a good uni or a good branch

[high haven]

wow

[grave cove]

deep

[high haven]

im assuming it matters

like when companies choose candidates or something

[acoustic moss]

yeah both of those matter

uni and branch

for me personally

[young shoal]

meritocracy moment

[high haven]

good uni + good branch: ✅ ✅
good uni + bad branch: ✅
bad uni + good branch: ✅
bad uni + bad branch: 🕯️

[acoustic moss]

it was either IIT and metallurgy or JU and EE

IIT has got a much bigger brand name

[high haven]

is branch major again

i forgot

[grave cove]

metallurgy

[acoustic moss]

but i couldnt deal with more chem for 5 days much less 5 years

metallurgy & material science

[high haven]

ah its major

[grave cove]

yeah that seems chem heavy

[high haven]

material science is a grad program here or something

[grave cove]

I'll be done with chemistry for the rest of my life after this semester

can't wait

[high haven]

idk if it ended up being an undergrad major yet

probs just a minor

[grave cove]

I think material engineering is a thing for undergrads

[high haven]

oh is it

[grave cove]

I believe so

[high haven]

is it a class or a whole major

[grave cove]

major

[high haven]

interesting

things have changed™

[acoustic moss]

ur old

[high haven]

correct

[acoustic moss]

grampa rex

[grave cove]

so are you

[acoustic moss]

sure man

[grave cove]

im the only non old person here 😤

[high haven]

[grave cove]

what've you against k8s man

[high haven]

always ask

do you really need k8s

do you really

then ask again

do you really

[acoustic moss]

the freshers are just coming in and half of them look older than me 😭

[grave cove]

the answer is always yes

[high haven]

anyway this is also merch from my favorite podcast/conference series

[grave cove]

are you sure you don't just look young

[acoustic moss]

idk

im probably like among the youngest 10 people in my class

december birthday moment

[high haven]

i have this one. got it from the first conference

[grave cove]

yeah I'm younger than most ppl and it sucks 😭

they make fun of me for being a baby 😭😭

[grave cove]

relatable

[acoustic moss]

good

[acoustic moss]

same

[high haven]

bro really?

oh you meant the shirt's slogan

[acoustic moss]

are you saying im hallucinating it

[high haven]

i thought you went to the conference

premature excitement

[grave cove]

what conf was it

please don't tell me it was AI

[high haven]

right?

[acoustic moss]

no reply speaks volumes

[high haven]

i mean

what do you think

what area of work do i work in

it was actually a good conference

some really smart people building some really cool things

ai gets a bad rep bc of the crypto bros smh

[grave cove]

so true

[high haven]

but like literally imagine

[acoustic moss]

e=mc^2 + ai

[high haven]

trying to get this stuff to production

[acoustic moss]

😤

[high haven]

the systems you need to build around it

[grave cove]

but I feel like ai confs would be an aibro magnet for 200 miles around

[high haven]

maybe if it was titled something like "AI Conf"

[acoustic moss]

lol

real

[high haven]

this one was "LLMs in Production"

which sounds bad but was actually pretty cutting edge back then

or like had less negative connotations

at least it wasnt something "GenAI 2023"

there was some really good talks about system design/architectures

for these systems

[acoustic moss]

no way

the data scientists discovered software design

[high haven]

hsp why you gotta be like this

there werent even that many DS

they were actual engineers

[grave cove]

damn my weakness

[high haven]

any of sam partee's talks

are p good

[grave cove]

[high haven]

hes over at redis

[grave cove]

ooh

Redis has a lot of fun applications as I found out recently

[high haven]

but hes talked about how to build a semantic search system

multiple times

[grave cove]

never thought you could use it as a message queue

[acoustic moss]

.uwu wueue

[median dome]

wueue

[tranquil orchid]

Chatgpt is my favourite random number generator

[acoustic moss]

mine too

[high haven]

youll keep getting that 42 too

these models werent designed for those capabilities

anyway, i should stop

no one cares

[grave cove]

😔

[grave cove]

omg hollow knight silksong reference ‼️

me being part of 2 of the most schizophrenic gaming communities on the planet:

[warped sentinel]

I prefer bg3

y

[crystal spruce]

city of tears do be kinda mid

[grave cove]

banned

CoT slaps

[naive igloo]

i memorized some of truth tables

[crystal spruce]

there are better regions

[grave cove]

source?

[crystal spruce]

ask your mom

[fair summit]

Momirizing truth table

Bad idea

[glossy niche]

I hate HP so much its unreal

I want to grab the CEO and shove them in the dish washer

[solemn tulip]

true is true, false is false

[glossy niche]

How can one product possibly be so.shit

[fair summit]

Now givme truth table of 8 bit adder

8 bit A
8 bit B
1 bit carry in

8 bit result
1 bit carry out

[solemn tulip]

what's there to memorize in that?

an 8 bit added adds

0 1 2 3 ...
1 2 3 ....
2 3 ...
3 ...
...

[fair summit]

Hmm

[fair summit]

But point is memorizing

[solemn tulip]

who memorizes addition other than maybe single digit addition?

# single digit addition
   0  1
0 00 01
1 01 10

[tardy rain]

Youre telling me you didnt memorise your addition table up to 100?

[solemn tulip]

aligning text on phone is pain

[solemn tulip]

🥴

[solemn tulip]

give me a random number, chosen by fair dice roll

[acoustic moss]

4

[tardy rain]

2

[solemn tulip]

hsp is of course correct

the random number chosen by the fair dice roll is 4

[thick ore]

if you knew what it was, then is it fair?!

[small coral]

why does programming class require a flowchart

[crystal spruce]

because apparently some people comprehend algorithms better as flowcharts

[naive igloo]

because they do

me.

[thick ore]

what if i daily drive alpine linux

[naive igloo]

ivan.

[thick ore]

or how about ricing hannah montana linux

[jovial oriole]

Memorizing truth tables

[round socket]

^

[high haven]

this post is not about making money

this post is about capitalism

jk

maybe

[tardy rain]

Making money for someone else

[jaunty wraith]

monies

[young shoal]

based?

[naive igloo]

in France

[tardy rain]

Not anymore

Bed bugs wildin

[rugged owl]

"OH, doing some catch up on another work project? "
...shame if some urgent adhoc requests came in.
...and some additional follow up questions.
...and xfinity internet going down.

[jaunty wraith]

relatable

[high haven]

relatable +1

[runic plinth]

unrelatable

[high haven]

new feature? interesting

[uneven pine]

?

[high haven]

oh have you had it?

am i just slow?

classic

[uneven pine]

What

Had what

[distant hazel]

discord icon looks different

[uneven pine]

Looks like it has for the last couple of years

Since they did the awful redesign

[rugged owl]

A/B testing? Or #JustFullNitroThings

[high haven]

my co-worker thought i was quitting bc i was canceling meetings

lol

they were like "please dont quit..."

me: im not quitting

for now

[rugged owl]

2Rich4Me

[high haven]

wait i thought you had nitro

i have the classic one

[rugged owl]

2Rich4Me

|| Probably discord website vs their desktop app||

[high haven]

ahh

i forget you use the web app mainly

[native ruin]

Any one can help me to create a deep learning model please

Any body there now

Using python

[high haven]

@young shoal pub

[young shoal]

pump

😩

[high haven]

anyway

now i gotta go back and talk

and lets see if we can expand this team

[young shoal]

getting the team back together?

[high haven]

???

[young shoal]

you gotta say "i'm putting together a team"

then they can say

"i'm in"

haven't you seen the movies?

[high haven]

i have and i hate them

[young shoal]

D:

[high haven]

i also for some reason said

i would help find peeps at an upcoming conference

[young shoal]

💀

so am i gonna see you there?

[high haven]

no bc you hate ai remember

[young shoal]

maybe i'm trying to pivot in

use my brilliant software development skills

[high haven]

its a lot ik

but really the first two points is probs the most important

[young shoal]

why not poach a dev from a team within the company?

[high haven]

dont you know

[young shoal]

😔

[high haven]

theyre trying to get peeps too

[young shoal]

they? other people on your team?

[high haven]

no other teams

[young shoal]

any of them looking for interns? 🥺 👉 👈

[high haven]

not at the moment

you probs already know why

the internship would be over

[young shoal]

😔

[carmine bane]

I hate how applying for internships become earlier and earlier

Like

Actually I have no reason to hate it

I just do

Huh that's weird

[young shoal]

[carmine bane]

Actually

There could be reasons to dislike it

Like

[young shoal]

the grind is quite a grind

[carmine bane]

If you're applying for sophomore internships, the only thing you have to show for yourself is anything you did in freshman year. You're missing out an entire year directly before the internship to advertise on your resume.

Idk

It's just a whole year of applying

To rinse and repeat the following year

4 years of constant applying

Sounds like a struggle

[young shoal]

ya basically

though this one program i applied to is a multi-year program

[carmine bane]

:0

Sounds pretty cool

Which company?

[young shoal]

SAP

[carmine bane]

Icic

[young shoal]

it's the "STAR" program

[carmine bane]

Oh I think I heard a special someone mention that

[young shoal]

it's like, rotational, so you get a team for a year, then another team

[carmine bane]

In this server

[young shoal]

yeah, me

[carmine bane]

Oh

Maybe

You're like one of the 5 people I talk to here

And I'm not here that much to begin with

[young shoal]

i got interviewed last year lol

[spare oriole]

working

[high haven]

classic

[young shoal]

mhm

[high haven]

https://news.sap.com/2023/09/joule-new-generative-ai-assistant/

[young shoal]

juul?

sheeesh

As generative AI moves on from the initial hype, the work to ensure measurable return on investment begins,
😩

[rugged owl]

[young shoal]

lmfao

that's gotta be a senior role though right

[high haven]

knowledge graph + LLMs are slowly emerging as a viable data model

unironically

[stark prawn]

I start up my computer every day

[high haven]

as opposed to

[young shoal]

no startup experience

[stark prawn]

So I have start up experience

[high haven]

[high haven]

all the roles

duh

full stack DS data

MLE + DS + DE + DA + product

the whole shebang

[rugged owl]

Data Scientist:

[young shoal]

machine learning data scientist 🤨

HANA's their business intelligence thing isn't it

[rugged owl]

[high haven]

SAP HANA

[young shoal]

they're competitors with the uhh... company that begins with C

[rugged owl]

No idea what HANA is

C as in Cow

[high haven]

whats the command for wiki

[rugged owl]

SAP is apparently big?

[young shoal]

yeah

very big, they've got offices everywhere

[rugged owl]

Oh, speaking of which

that role looking more like a data analyst

[high haven]

half of all DS roles are DA

the other half is DE

fight me

[young shoal]

technically i work for a SAP competitor

[rugged owl]

"We believe in transparency (only when PA forces us to show it)"

[young shoal]

doesn't CA?

[high haven]

.wiki sap hana

[median dome]

Wikipedia Search Results

SAP HANA
SAP HANA (HochleistungsANalyseAnwendung or High-performance ANalytic Application) is an in-memory, column-oriented, relational database management system

SAP Cloud Platform
data and business processes. SAP Cloud Platform was an open platform-as-a-service, which included the in-memory SAP HANA database management system, connects

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[young shoal]

and colorado and new york have those too

[rugged owl]

Oh yes

[young shoal]

ah salesforce. they compete with them

[high haven]

its the first one

[rugged owl]

HochleistungsANalyseAnwendung

Rolls right off the tongue

[young shoal]

to be fair, SAP HANA does sound pretty good

[high haven]

theyre mentioned on podcasts

usually talking about legacy

[high haven]

[young shoal]

ya they're the second largest business intelligence company i think, behind salesforce

[high haven]

is this their site?

[rugged owl]

https://jobs.sap.com/

[young shoal]

i have been meaning to apply to their ixp things

[rugged owl]

Website -> Career -> Data Scientist in search field

[young shoal]

i can't filter by country, only city 😔

oh, i can put "US" in the city field and it works

[rugged owl]

[high haven]

iXp lol

[young shoal]

i think it's "intern experience program" or something

it's a single year program compared to STAR

[rugged owl]

Wait what. Why is this requirement like half of the other & pays more

[young shoal]

location?

[high haven]

this* team has more 💸

[young shoal]

i'd bet location. i think sg mentioned the other one was PA? maybe this one is CA or something lol

[high haven]

i c

[rugged owl]

Wait, nvm. Didn't see the data wrangling, data cleaning, sourcing from relational databases

Also yea, probably that.

[high haven]

data wrangling

obligatory ping for @foggy jungle

[rugged owl]

Why do they all say "start up experience" though

[foggy jungle]

YEE HAW

[high haven]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-comedy-dwight-cowboy-yeehaw-gif-5137518382016789200

thanks rem

[rugged owl]

[young shoal]

so they can make you do a bunch of stuff for 80 hours per week for little pay

[high haven]

classic

[rugged owl]

SAP is a large company right?

[young shoal]

so it would seem

[rugged owl]

105k employees

[young shoal]

sheesh

[rugged owl]

I guess these are some start up division or subsidiary

[young shoal]

oh apparently they're the top erp company now

damn we're like 15th

[rugged owl]

I have no idea what our company even falls under

Wiki is so generic, it might as well be Firm Firm USA

[young shoal]

😔

[high haven]

classic

[young shoal]

i mean, you rarely become a large company without having multiple products/things right

[rugged owl]

ha, this one chart shows that my current company has a higher market cap than the company I interviewed for and didn't want me.

[young shoal]

😤

they didn't deserve you ~

[rugged owl]

Looking at these job posts, feels like I'm back where I was 2 years ago. No idea what field I want to actually go into

[young shoal]

well now that you're college educated you have ~freedom~

well, more educated

wait is your company paying for part of your degree?

i was at a presentation from vanguard; the guy is doing a master's part time also, and it's completely covered by the company

[rugged owl]

No. They could have (up to 10k which would cover the entire degree), but generally requires you to stay 1 year after.

My cost of capital would be more than 10k, so it's not worth.

[young shoal]

yeah, the guy said he has to stay 1 year, or he can pay 50% back to the company and leave right away

[rugged owl]

I would take the 50%, but I'm pretty sure our company is 100%

[young shoal]

he's in person, the school he's going to has a satellite campus near his work campus

5 mins, reportedly

[rugged owl]

Like, classes are there or online.

[young shoal]

in person

[rugged owl]

Not sure if I can ever do in person again.

[young shoal]

intimidated by the young people?

[rugged owl]

More like:
"What the *@&# did that prof write on the board?" "Is that a Tau or an igloo?"
"What? What did the prof say?"

[young shoal]

😩

pay attention and sit at the front 👍

[rugged owl]

We did (at least the sit in the front part)

[young shoal]

😔

[rugged owl]

Following the proofs, well

[young shoal]

how are your courses anyway 👀. spending a lot of time on discord today 👀

[rugged owl]

I'm fine

Totally not procrastinating or anything

Totally no midterm coming up

or extra homework

[high haven]

[rugged owl]

[young shoal]

😔

[grave cove]

relatable

[young shoal]

i got saved today. one of my midterm essay due dates got moved back like 5 days

[high haven]

gratz

[solemn tulip]

more time for procrastination 🥳

[rugged owl]

Technically....

[young shoal]

nah multi level feedback queue 👍

actually that would be pretty bad

humans have much longer times for context switching. you probably only need like

priority queue based on due date

hm, but you still need to make progress on longer projects with a further due date. or they'll be starved 😭

[high haven]

someone used generative ai to solve the problem of matching conference attendees who have similar probs, etc. to one another

do you want to see

its in typescript

[young shoal]

probs?

[high haven]

anyway

[young shoal]

huh

[high haven]

its just embeddings

using pgvector

[high haven]

these are the questions asked on the frontend

[civic pasture]

Yeah

Noice

[young shoal]

i c i c

[high haven]

yeah

[young shoal]

🤨

[high haven]

now you know

how ai works ✨

[young shoal]

🤨

[high haven]

next time, lurkers can ask pub

[young shoal]

wha-

this responsibility is too much

[civic pasture]

Lmao

AI

GOOD

ML Good

NLP Good

DL Good

[high haven]

where is DE

[civic pasture]

Hahahahahaha

[kindred orbit]

hi

[distant hazel]

look at the green background

[uneven pine]

I thought that was a server tbh

[high haven]

today is wednesday

lets see if i can get through the week

[young shoal]

you can do it 😤

[high haven]

||can you do it for me though||

jk

unless

[young shoal]

👀

[high haven]

pub i have to talk to too many stakeholders today

something something you cant serve two masters

idk the expression

[young shoal]

lol

the modern dilemma: eat in the sun because it's warmer, but eat in the shade so you can see your screens

compromise: sit facing away from the sun?

[high haven]

you cant see the screen in the sun