ot1-perplexing-regexing

[crystal spruce]

yeah u can

just beat them 10 times in a row in chess

[tulip falcon]

Did u google it

[young shoal]

you probably don't need a persistent connection though, so just http is sufficient

[quasi blaze]

This was pure organic..and it doesn’t get added smh

[eternal depot]

If you get them declared mentally incapable of taking care of themselves

[honest star]

because it's rude and mean spirited and not funny in any way.

[tulip falcon]

[young shoal]

is that adopting or like, a conservatorship

[honest star]

it would be a conservatorship

[reef geyser]

yep

[eternal depot]

Conservatorship is essentially a form of adoption

[glossy niche]

#otn-dysfunctional-programming

[tulip falcon]

Marriage could be like adopting someone if they don't take care of themselves

[young shoal]

that's probably already one

[honest star]

only some states allow adult adoptions (getting adopted when you're an adult) but I believe most have age limits

[glossy niche]

#otn-blobject-oriented-programming

[reef geyser]

that's comically unhealthy

[tulip falcon]

printer-support-channel

[honest star]

Actually, a maybe-legal-case that's just emerged is a case where someone thought they were adopted but it turns out they were in a conservatorship. Quite a few crucial differences between adoption and a conservatorship

[glossy niche]

#otn-im-here-to-chew-gum-and-kick-ass

[young shoal]

that football movie?

[glossy niche]

#otn-and-im-all-out-of-ass

[honest star]

mhm, it's super fucked though because the conservatorship wasn't done properly at all

[young shoal]

I saw the legal eagle video

[eternal depot]

#freebrittney

[honest star]

I consume a borderline unhealthy amount of legal analysis as background noise

[tulip falcon]

Asynchronous law degree

[reef geyser]

better to consume legal analysis than...
what, 24 hours of subway surfer content?

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[eternal depot]

Illegal analysis

[tulip falcon]

Did you consume that

[crystal spruce]

i mean you could do both at the same time surely

[reef geyser]

legal analysis, not yet
subway surfers, unwillingly

[young shoal]

just switch it to podcasts and you'll turn into rex

[glossy niche]

my bg noise is to just let yotube auto play find me random crap

[reef geyser]

criminal analysis does go kinda crazy,

[tulip falcon]

Then you'd be neither learning law, focusing at your job, or focusing on subway surfers all at the same time

[ruby fox]

Does asynchronous mean things happening at the same time?

[honest star]

I <33333 5-4 and rebuttal podcast

[glossy niche]

no, thats parallel

[reef geyser]

2 minutes no legal analysis

[young shoal]

it's like the next level beyond true crime podcasts

[ruby fox]

Or does it mean synchronous 🤔

[tulip falcon]

They damaged metal pole, jail

[reef geyser]

not the public infrastructure!!!

[honest star]

I can only listen to one 5-4 episode a day without losing total faith in the american judicial and political system

[ruby fox]

The car hiding in the bushes 😔

[glossy niche]

i watched a lot of vids dunking on US public transit, fun stuff

[reef geyser]

delaying disillusionment has to be on the top of my list for crazy things today

[young shoal]

is that even in the us

[reef geyser]

that's the funny part

if it isn't, you crashed your car in a different country because you didn't watch legal analysis for 2 minutes

you were that devestated

[crystal spruce]

9686 has some wacky prime factors

imagine being divisible by 167

[reef geyser]

actually, funny you mention that

I was wikidiving on primes the other day because of another conversation going on

[young shoal]

🤓

[reef geyser]

9686 was the exact number I landed on when picking a prime to look at lol

[crystal spruce]

that's really weird

[young shoal]

9686 isn't prime

[glossy niche]

fellow prime number enjoyer?

[eternal depot]

What's your scuba setup for wikidiving or was it a free dive?

[reef geyser]

not prime, sorry

[crystal spruce]

nah i prefer superior highly composite numbers over primes

[reef geyser]

a number with a prime factor

[ruby fox]

Semi primes 😮

[reef geyser]

be patient, I'm stupid @young shoal

[eternal depot]

All numbers have prime factors though

[reef geyser]

cosmic coincidences

if you say it's 1, I'm going to merc you jah

[eternal depot]

1... and sometimes 2

[reef geyser]

1 ISN'T A PRIME NUMBER REEEE

[quasi blaze]

It’s a term in psychology

[naive igloo]

why is it not tho

it is divisble by itself

and is divisible by 1

[glossy niche]

a prime has 2 factors

1 has 1

thats the definition we use for prime

[ruby fox]

A number only divisible by 1 and itself

[glossy niche]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prime_number

[naive igloo]

we were tought the one i told

[glossy niche]

smh my head

[reef geyser]

that's the meat of it, but there's more to the definition

[young shoal]

when are the quarter primes going to show up

[ruby fox]

😮

[reef geyser]

nickel primes

le GASP

DIME PRIMES

[eternal depot]

Lime prime

[ruby fox]

Crime times 😔

[reef geyser]

lime prime

there you go

[glossy niche]

cope rhymes

🥁

[tulip falcon]

[young shoal]

prime time crime 🤔

[ruby fox]

Orange 😏

[glossy niche]

#otn-cope-rhymes

[eternal depot]

Dime primetime

[glossy niche]

its funny it deserves to be pinned

[crystal spruce]

i prefer just defining primes in terms of commutative rings instead of the "only 2 numbers divide it" definition
feels more rooted in math

[ruby fox]

Cope-name

[tulip falcon]

What's so cool about primes

[reef geyser]

why do you think they show news at 11,
11 is prime
it's PRIME TIME

[glossy niche]

meth

[crystal spruce]

and then the answer to "is 1 a prime" is just "no, it's a unit"

[glossy niche]

you can do a lotof meth with it

[ruby fox]

*math

[glossy niche]

is this some group theory stuff?

[eternal depot]

It's like memorizing the digits of pi. It's what nerds Luna does when bored

[reef geyser]

No i don't

[tardy rain]

Proof?

[ruby fox]

Without primes there is no RSA encryption ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[crystal spruce]

abstract algebra i think? im not too sure on the boundaries between all the abstract regions

[quasi blaze]

otn-prime-time-crime

[reef geyser]

3.1415926
I'm no more precise than that

[glossy niche]

🚨 joke stealer 🚨

[quasi blaze]

Has to be organic right?

[uneven pine]

0118999881999119725

|| 3 ||

[eternal depot]

Primes are not carbon based.

[glossy niche]

this is as organic as a sit com

[young shoal]

laugh track plays

[eternal depot]

"reality" show

[ruby fox]

Any want to eat some pi? 3.1415926535 8979323846 2643383279 5028841971 6939937510 5820974944 5923078164 0628620899 8628034825 3421170679

[reef geyser]

aww, you put it in nice little slices too

[eternal depot]

A wall of pi

[quasi blaze]

Just like you pinging the mods instead of informing me directly that my suggestion violated the code of conduct wasn’t based

[crystal spruce]

wanna eat some pi? 10

[young shoal]

only a byte

[ruby fox]

Coincidences are scary lol

[glossy niche]

🥁

[reef geyser]

what's the equivalent of a tablespoon of bits

[young shoal]

is this why you don't want authorities to sit with you at lunch

[glossy niche]

nibble?

[ruby fox]

A mole 😬

[reef geyser]

a mol of bits

that's a lot of bits

[eternal depot]

I'm not your buddy, guy

[young shoal]

a nibble is only half a byte though

[ruby fox]

Haha, how much is a bite 😏

[glossy niche]

[tulip falcon]

bite@latest

[glossy niche]

this video probably smells really good

[tulip falcon]

Ow

My tow

[reef geyser]

the tow

[glossy niche]

toww ow

[quasi blaze]

It’s quite annoying how people want to get the authorities involved when people could have resolved an issue without them.

[ruby fox]

https://youtu.be/xADSDapqn9o?si=0FzlR_93Zk2X8qb6

[reef geyser]

@tropic lichen come from the shadows

I know you're here

you gremlin

[glossy niche]

i remember listening to thge whole album while doing donkey work stats homework

[ruby fox]

https://tenor.com/view/whered-that-spawn-from-michael-kupris-become-the-knight-where-did-that-come-from-where-did-that-originate-gif-14933264074905500140

[tropic lichen]

nuh uh

[glossy niche]

good time

[reef geyser]

FYM NUH UH

[glossy niche]

yuh uh my friemd

[young shoal]

both are valid ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[reef geyser]

why I oughta-

[ruby fox]

Nuhuhunuh

[glossy niche]

https://tenor.com/view/rage-against-the-machine-ratm-zack-zack-de-la-rocha-delarocha-gif-14482074

bro said

(good song btw)

[quasi blaze]

He could have pulled me to side and said “Hey you need to remove that” but he pinged the entire staff off of one single otn suggestion

[young shoal]

well yeah

[quasi blaze]

It’s like he wants me to get infracted

[reef geyser]

Are we seriously on this still?

[ruby fox]

Well they can only set them as the title

[quasi blaze]

I can’t respect that

[ruby fox]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[reef geyser]

Then don't. But stop bringing it up.

It happened, and it's not unhappening. Please talk about anything else.

[glossy niche]

why are you like this 😭 i cant resist insulting you with random words when you do this

[tropic lichen]

i mean, just cause we got pinged doesn't meant we're gonna actually do anything

[glossy niche]

ill get banned fr this time

[eternal depot]

Who put the joke in bjokey?

[reef geyser]

b did

[young shoal]

by

[ruby fox]

Don't get bombed lol

[reef geyser]

by

[tropic lichen]

the etymology of my username is a mystery

[reef geyser]

to you, even?

[tropic lichen]

even i don't know it

mhm

[young shoal]

a bjokery

[reef geyser]

a bjmystery

[crystal spruce]

did you wake up one day and your username was bjokey

[glossy niche]

bjoker

[tropic lichen]

apparently so

[ruby fox]

Batman joker 😳

[crystal spruce]

maybe your account got hacked

by bjokey

[reef geyser]

turns out bjokey is a cicada 3301 type mystery, and your nickname is the first clue

[eternal depot]

How do we even know bjokey is the real bjokey?

[reef geyser]

dude's been waiting for years for you to figure it out

[glossy niche]

got my name by losing a genshin impact bet and having ppl clown on my ass for 6 months

[crystal spruce]

imagine playing genshin

[tropic lichen]

if it is then its a damn good ARG, not even i can solve it 😔

[glossy niche]

i shower now i swear

[ruby fox]

Imagine

[reef geyser]

not my proudest years

[glossy niche]

i havent touched it in a yr

[reef geyser]

egotistical much

[tropic lichen]

the earliest usage of bjokey is a diddy kong racing DS save from circa 2008

[reef geyser]

The solution is simple

bjokey, do you happen to have a Delorean DMC-12 lying around

[glossy niche]

wait a fucking minute

[reef geyser]

WAIT A MINUTE

[glossy niche]

https://tenor.com/view/shower-gif-20138004

[crystal spruce]

[young shoal]

bjokey is actually his shadow's name

it's just fully integrated now

[crystal spruce]

damn he's got the 100% shadow

[ruby fox]

You are gonna summon a person 😬

[reef geyser]

bjokey is the name of a greater demon confirmed

[rough sapphire]

daily reminder to

[solemn tulip]

fun without context

whodunnit

[reef geyser]

less fun with context

[reef geyser]

I can live with this

[ruby fox]

https://tenor.com/view/grass-when-the-grass-mowing-grass-cutting-down-gif-17683469

[young shoal]

source?

[reef geyser]

sorry, I only got sauce left

[glossy niche]

xingqiu my beloevd

[ruby fox]

https://tenor.com/view/weak-sauce-lame-pathetic-wimpy-weak-gif-27469963

[crystal spruce]

who's xingqiu

[reef geyser]

my sauce is strong, thank you very much

isn't xingqiu that one water guy in liyue

[tropic lichen]

a saucy sauce

[ruby fox]

Saurcy sauce

[glossy niche]

[glossy niche]

yes

[naive igloo]

why are you all sending images

[glossy niche]

i just poisted a picture of him

[naive igloo]

they dont load for me 😭

[crystal spruce]

that like

[reef geyser]

yeah, just had to check if the genshin lore was still in my head or not
since it is, it seems the electroshock therapy did not work

[crystal spruce]

barely looks like xingqiu

[glossy niche]

its him wdym

[crystal spruce]

i would've guessed ryo from bocchi first if u gave me that pic

[naive igloo]

do what?

[glossy niche]

youre imagining things

[reef geyser]

delusional

[rough sapphire]

to rewrite in rust

[ruby fox]

Try ASM

[crystal spruce]

these do not look alike

[glossy niche]

its the same person

[rough sapphire]

assembly is too easy, i want a challenge, like fighting the borrow checker

because i forgot a singular <'_>

[glossy niche]

stop destroying my attempts to gaslight ppl smh

[ruby fox]

Brainfu*k

[naive igloo]

lets do C--

[ruby fox]

Maybe it's easy

[ruby fox]

Let's do in binary

[naive igloo]

1

[ruby fox]

They are the same person

0

[rough sapphire]

represent your programming language using group theory

[ruby fox]

Let's do in qbits

[glossy niche]

.uwuify represent your programming language using group theory

[median dome]

wepwesent youw p-pwogwamming wanguage u-using g-gwoup theowy

[ruby fox]

.catify .uwuify represent your programming language using group theory

[median dome]

.uwuify represent your programming language ᓚᘏᗢ using group theory

[rough sapphire]

accidentally slices an atom

[ruby fox]

It's neither 1, nor 0 😔

[naive igloo]

1

[ruby fox]

Sadly as a mortal being, i can't continue this conversation 😔

[naive igloo]

11011111101011

||bin_ = lambda s: ''.join([*map(lambda c: bin(ord(c))[2:], s)])||

[rough sapphire]

what does that do

''.join(map(lambda c: bin(ord(c))[2:], s))

also this should work

[naive igloo]

>>> bin_("ok")                                                              '11011111101011'                                                            >>>

[naive igloo]

join doesnt accept iterablrs iirc

[rough sapphire]

it does

>>> bin_ = lambda s: ''.join(map(lambda c: bin(ord(c))[2:], s))
>>> bin_("ok")
'11011111101011'
>>> 

[kindred orbit]

i wish i can read bin n dec

[rough sapphire]

fr

[naive igloo]

oh

[kindred orbit]

i wish i learned by heart ascii table

[ruby fox]

!e

import numpy as np
print("".join(np.unpackbits(np.frombuffer(b'Hello',dtype=np.uint8))))

[rough sapphire]

nice

beautiful and idiomatic numpy

[royal lake]

@ruby fox :x: Your 3.11 eval job has completed with return code 1.

001 | Traceback (most recent call last):
002 |   File "/home/main.py", line 2, in <module>
003 |     print("".join(np.unpackbits(np.frombuffer(b'Hello',dtype=np.uint8))))
004 |           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
005 | TypeError: sequence item 0: expected str instance, numpy.uint8 found

[ruby fox]

!e

import numpy as np
print((np.unpackbits(np.frombuffer(b'Hello',dtype=np.uint8))))

[royal lake]

@ruby fox :white_check_mark: Your 3.11 eval job has completed with return code 0.

001 | [0 1 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 1 1 0 0 1 0 1 0 1 1 0 1 1 0 0 0 1 1 0 1 1 0 0 0 1 1 0 1
002 |  1 1 1]

[ruby fox]

Ig i need to learn more lol

[rough sapphire]

''.join(map(str, np.unpackbits(np.frombuffer(b'Hello',dtype=np.uint8))))

[quasi blaze]

I can’t wait to reunite with my elementary school classmates again. We’re doing a bigger reunion.

[kindred orbit]

whats elementary school

[ruby fox]

I was thinking of some other way is possible lol

[rough sapphire]

idk if there's a numpy function that converts everything to another type but let's do some research

>>> k = lambda b:np.array_str(np.unpackbits(np.frombuffer(b,dtype=np.uint8)))
>>> k(b"hi")
'[0 1 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 1 1 0 1 0 0 1]'
>>> 

and then ????

[ruby fox]

🤔

!e

import numpy as np
print(str(np.unpackbits(np.frombuffer(b'Hello',dtype=np.uint8))))

[royal lake]

@ruby fox :white_check_mark: Your 3.11 eval job has completed with return code 0.

001 | [0 1 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 1 1 0 0 1 0 1 0 1 1 0 1 1 0 0 0 1 1 0 1 1 0 0 0 1 1 0 1
002 |  1 1 1]

[rough sapphire]

i think np.array_str is in C

[ruby fox]

Oh then it's the fastest ig

!e

import numpy as np
print(str(np.unpackbits(np.frombuffer(b'Hello',dtype=np.uint8)))[1:-1:2])

[royal lake]

@ruby fox :white_check_mark: Your 3.11 eval job has completed with return code 0.

0100100001100101011011000110110001101   

[ruby fox]

Got it

[rough sapphire]

https://github.com/numpy/numpy/blob/v1.26.0/numpy/core/arrayprint.py#L524
uses this function after a bit of digging, not sure if it's in C at all lol

[royal lake]

numpy/core/arrayprint.py line 524

def _array2string(a, options, separator=' ', prefix=""):```

[ruby fox]

Maybe it's C 🤔

[rough sapphire]

it should be

[gritty zinc]

.view?

[ruby fox]

??

[rough sapphire]

wwot/

https://numpy.org/doc/stable/reference/generated/numpy.ndarray.view.html ?

[ruby fox]

Yeah maybe this

[low chasm]

I need to convince my mom that msg isn't evil 😔 I've been managing by sticking instant dashi powder into stuff

[quasi blaze]

My humour is far more open minded than a lot of people here because I don’t get offended easily

[young shoal]

that doesn't make it better 💀

[tulip falcon]

I feel weird

Dunno how to describe

[quasi blaze]

I mean if you’re easily sensitive, then I’ll conclude that your sense of humour is limited.

[low chasm]

humor is pretty subjective, what's the original point here

[tulip falcon]

Feel disillusioned again

[solemn tulip]

points, in this chat?

[young shoal]

limited, sure, but that doesn't make it worse 💀

[quasi blaze]

You believe stand up comedy shows will be as funny if comedians worried about if they’re jokes are “inappropriate” and “offensive”?

[young shoal]

not this again 💀

[tulip falcon]

Like I feel like I don't even care about what's being discussed anywhere

But just for now, while I feel weird

[solemn tulip]

inappropriate can often be the point of jokes, straddling the edges of what's acceptable

[quasi blaze]

Yeah I just came up with an otn with the cleanest language as possible and it was inappropriate

[young shoal]

not this again again 😩

[solemn tulip]

again

[tulip falcon]

Bleh

[quasi blaze]

But anyway

I pray the easily offended don’t ever walk into a stand up comedy show

[tulip falcon]

Yup

They hang out in coffee shops in uptown or some shit

[quasi blaze]

I seriously wonder how they will get by in life if they’re getting sensitive over jokes

[grave cove]

yes

[tulip falcon]

Just worrying about yourself is hard enough

[quasi blaze]

I remember listening to a SIRIUS XM radio station and they were talking about a lady who emailed their company about them feeling offended listening to their radio station

[young shoal]

it turns out, most healthy working environments don't involve derogatory jokes about each other that are not wanted

[quasi blaze]

Yeah well not every environment is a working environment

People heckle stand up comedy shows because they felt offended

[tulip falcon]

Fuck that conversation a minute ago that made me feel bad sort of sitting sorely on my tongue

[tulip falcon]

Lmao you think an offended person becomes a heckler?

[young shoal]

sure, you can extend it to any healthy environment. generally, you can just say "hey, please don't make jokes like that", and the jokester will stop

[quasi blaze]

Yes I watched a video of it happening

https://youtu.be/VJKWNdHoUKk?si=xYIoH1V5NwNDEUpL

[tulip falcon]

Heckling or uh just having some sort of a fit?

Everything in life is a balance, push too hard and fall back

Give and take

Be too offensive and say okay let's tone it down

Be offensive right on that line if u wanna be relevant

Or not, not necessarily needed

I hope these many talks in here are getting through to you in bits and pieces

[young shoal]

I doubt it

[tardy rain]

Youre only as funny as people think you are

And the people have spoken

[young shoal]

so true

[grave cove]

wise man mar

[young shoal]

old man mar

[tardy rain]

With age comes wisdom

[meager sphinx]

i get a laugh or two when seeing the guy fight 😂

[young shoal]

with age comes age bro

[solemn tulip]

mar man 🧜‍♂️

[tardy rain]

I said what I said

Thats why im so old at such young age

[grave cove]

also hardness of hearing apparently

[solemn tulip]

what?

[tardy rain]

👂❌🤷

[quasi blaze]

I mean I think there’s some truth to that. That goes for everyone. It solely depends on the demographic of the people you’re dealing with.

[meager sphinx]

prob cause I wear headphones a lot

[quasi blaze]

We have to read the crowd

[young shoal]

why don't you read the crowd then

[quasi blaze]

And from the looks of it…

[quasi blaze]

I do.

[grave cove]

source?

[meager sphinx]

i thought you said , "crowd must be open minded"

if they are open minded, they wouldnt get offended

[quasi blaze]

No sir

[young shoal]

the evidence is sorely lacking

[quasi blaze]

Lol idc. Take it or leave it

[meager sphinx]

sure
|| just too lazy to dig up old messages lol ||

[young shoal]

isn't "idc" not reading the crowd?

[tardy rain]

I guess I'll leave it 🤷

[young shoal]

aww hell nah they bubbled all the buttons on bitwarden's website

[quasi blaze]

No idc in your response to that I lack evidence

[young shoal]

how can that count as reading the crowd

the crowd wants answers

[tardy rain]

I think its pretty self evident you dont read the crowd keezy

You could say its...

Axiomatic

[quasi blaze]

First of all, I don’t owe you an explanation

[young shoal]

i'm just the messenger. attack the message, not the messenger

[quasi blaze]

I’m not attacking you

[young shoal]

you kinda did. you didn't respect my request for comment, that's blatant disrespect, which is basically an attack

[quasi blaze]

Explain

[quasi blaze]

That doesn’t mean I attacked the messenger

[meager sphinx]

lol wat , a blantant response is attacking ??

[quasi blaze]

I think you have a misunderstanding of what an ad hominem attack is

[meager sphinx]

its disrespecting , sure

but how is it an attack

[young shoal]

disrespect can totally be construed as an attack

[tardy rain]

We are part of the crowd

The crowd demands an explanation for the bad jokes

If you could call them jokes i guess

[young shoal]

alleged jokes

[meager sphinx]

i am not defending keezy if thats what you are thinking

but disrespecting != attacking imo (in this case)

like, it was a blatant comment (which is disrespcting, sure), but they did not attack you is what i saw

[young shoal]

to insult

[meager sphinx]

yup , that looks correct

though i dont see attacking there

[young shoal]

an insult is a direct attack on the mental psyche of the target

[vale raven]

“a young brave […]”

Think that definition should be updated

What does that even mean here?

[glossy niche]

i should do this

[meager sphinx]

i mean yeah
but like, in this case , it didnt feel like they meant to attack you lol

like
you made bad jokes, give me an explanation -> i didnt -> proof says otherwise -> idc

yeah ,idk if that qualifies as attack

[meager sphinx]

i think the ban time increases exponentially and not linearly 😂

[tardy rain]

If you were a bug type you'd be strong against dark damage

[glossy niche]

me or the old keezer

[tardy rain]

psv

Lmaoooo

[glossy niche]

whats a psv

[tardy rain]

iykyk

[glossy niche]

OH

psv is pisstatic void

took me a short amount of time to figure it out

[young shoal]

:riase

i don't get it

[solemn tulip]

||pisstake|| void

[young shoal]

😭

also my C code i segfaulting 😔 what else is new

[solemn tulip]

why did you pick C?

[glossy niche]

they are coming

i can hear their legs

mr krabs clacking against the floor

[young shoal]

i picked it out of the available languages for the project. the choices, assigned by my prof, were C

[glossy niche]

ure still in uni?

i assumed you were like

old

||i need to stop being rude to ppl ||

[young shoal]

why does everyone think i'm old :despair:

[solemn tulip]

C++ 😔

[glossy niche]

you have white hair

c;ear;y

old

[young shoal]

😔

i've been trying to learn C++ but there's so much stuff to learn

not just C++ but in general 😔

[glossy niche]

LOUD WARNING

[grave cove]

my ears

[quasi blaze]

I had a dream one time where I was in a 100 vs 100 paintball match and the map were underground tunnels that led to a mansion. Both teams on either side.

It was really cool. The team that was in the tunnels had to rush up to the mansion

[glossy niche]

ik that feeling

you wake up and ur first thought is:

"i should make a game about that"

[spice storm]

can sm1 please solve question 1?

oh hi yonik

[glossy niche]

classic tiktok plaigirising an entire BBC documentary

[glossy niche]

hello sire

[spice storm]

can u solve this please

the first part

[glossy niche]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

idk

maybe cause its comparing length

its unclear

and i cant help you further cause i have a personal policy against helping people with homework cause i had way too many people asking me to do so in uni

oh, your from KSA?

[spice storm]

its not hw lol

[glossy niche]

oh

study material?

[spice storm]

a question sm1 else sent

[glossy niche]

ohhhh i see

[spice storm]

i wrote the code to the 2nd part

but the first one dosent make sense

[glossy niche]

https://youtu.be/OkYCjtuLIZs?si=xd

[spice storm]

if 7 and 6 are there:
so:
v1:7
v2:6
if v1 < v2 = 7 < 6 so this is false, so it should output that the first val is larger

either program is wrong or question

or

im sleepy

[glossy niche]

maybe its reading left to right

so its comparing 60 to 700

[spice storm]

u mean right to left*

english is already read left to right

[glossy niche]

https://tenor.com/view/caterm-gif-4224526634630187686

[spice storm]

anyway

even if it were the number of digits

its 007

and 06

[glossy niche]

L2R

0 0 7
0 6

[spice storm]

yep

[glossy niche]

read from left to right

[spice storm]

and r2l gets 700 and 60

i am

[glossy niche]

that might be it

[spice storm]

thats 7 and 6 isnt it

0 0 7

left > right

[glossy niche]

oh wait nvm

am stupid

[spice storm]

bro

so

how do i figure this out

[glossy niche]

maybe its lexicographical comparison

[spice storm]

whts that

[glossy niche]

!e

'007' < '06'

whoops

[spice storm]

what if

[glossy niche]

!e

print('007' < '06')

[royal lake]

@glossy niche :white_check_mark: Your 3.11 eval job has completed with return code 0.

True

[spice storm]

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[glossy niche]

its comparing them as strings and not numbers

[spice storm]

sumn sus here

sure got it

now,

how does this work

length of string or like what

or i mean how is "007" smaller

[glossy niche]

like this

first one with a larger value is considered larger

in here, we sort strings lexicographically

the larger string has I in it

[spice storm]

Q3.1)

The program does not specify if the inputs are integers, so the variables Value1 and Value2 here are strings instead. Now when the strings are compared, they are compared using the lexicographical sequence. And so lexicographically, '007' is smaller than '06'

Q3.2)

OUTPUT "Enter value 1: "
INPUT Value1
OUTPUT "Enter value 2: "
INPUT Value2
IF Value1 < Value2 THEN
  OUTPUT "Value 2 is larger"
ELSE
  IF Value2 < Value1 THEN
    OUTPUT "Value 1 is larger"
  ELSE
    OUTPUT "Both numbers are equal"
  ENDIF
ENDIF

[quasi blaze]

Hmm. I should study dictionaries.

[glossy niche]

the python one or the book thing

[quasi blaze]

Python

[grave cove]

Luckily there isn't too much to them. You can "learn" them in half an hour or so

[tulip falcon]

Keys and values are everywhere just like python dictionary

Like if you say background-color:red in css

[quasi blaze]

Yeah this is true. I’m working on a data integration program at work so there’s a lot of dictionary manipulation going on like updating them, accessing elements from one dictionary and assigning those values to another dictionary

[grave cove]

Where dataclass abstraction??

Working with raw dicts just aint it

[quasi blaze]

Oh that’s not in the program. Previous developer used the DeepDiff module

[grave cove]

Why not add some abstractions yourself?

Unless it's just a quick and dirty script. i don't bother with those

[quasi blaze]

I don’t need to fix something that’s not broken 🙂

[grave cove]

fair enough. Though it's too easy to end up writing spaghetti code with that mindset

[rough sapphire]

bruh

you can swap elements in a list?

nvm i got clickbaited

[tardy rain]

Was mildly curious, i shouldnt have looked

Why do people do this

[rough sapphire]

what is this sir

[tardy rain]

Its the DeepDiff class from the module above

And its many many many kwargs

[young shoal]

🗿

bro why is a logger a param 😭

[rough sapphire]

:(

[azure widget]

someone help 💀

[rough sapphire]

so location doesnt matter?

[azure widget]

nope

[rough sapphire]

do you actually need help? im sorry the skull emoji is throwing me off lol

[azure widget]

yes i do, I have been stuck on this for 15 minutes

😄

[rough sapphire]

so this is to check if the candidate is NOT from the US or canada

but needs the score 75

[azure widget]

yesss

[rough sapphire]

if location not in ("US", "Canada")

[azure widget]

like this>?

[rough sapphire]

yes

[rough sapphire]

wtf

it is adjusted

[azure widget]

I think we have to add an operator?

[rough sapphire]

😭

im so dumb

[azure widget]

:>

[rough sapphire]

if (location == "US" or location == "Canada")

[azure widget]

correct

:d

is it possible to be more simpler?

[rough sapphire]

if location in ("US", "Canada")

[azure widget]

😄

[low chasm]

can't hide from us :p

[rough sapphire]

this is the same as that one

[azure widget]

xddd

I have to practice more

forsure

[rough sapphire]

yes

[azure widget]

im still a beginner

[rough sapphire]

same :(

im hungry as rn

[azure widget]

bro same

[rough sapphire]

i kinda want eggs and green onions

[azure widget]

I dont care what I eat, I just want to eat.

[rough sapphire]

lol

[azure widget]

how do I do this : The assessment_score should at least be 75.

[rough sapphire]

= 75

[azure widget]

shouldnt that work?

[rough sapphire]

(assessment_score >= 75)

try to put it in ()

[azure widget]

nope

[rough sapphire]

wtf

bruh

you added

and extra )

in the first if statement

[azure widget]

it still works 😄

[rough sapphire]

you have ("US", "Canada"))

[azure widget]

i just deleted it

but it worked for the last exercise

[rough sapphire]

wym??

[azure widget]

this is like homework

and this is an exam, it has different parts

[rough sapphire]

;-;

[quasi blaze]

I’m really not sure about this idea of going on some work retreat (i think that’s what they call it)

[warped sentinel]

It's a fantastic opportunity to bond, working on your culture and bringing folks together to make plans

[quasi blaze]

But this means I’ll be with people who are in the upper echelon of the hierarchy

[warped sentinel]

best way to operate beyond your level

[quasi blaze]

So this means I need to maintain a certain etiquette that I wouldn’t have if I was with my elementary school friends for example

[solid elbow]

sure, of course

[warped sentinel]

your workplace is not your discord server

You should maintain a certain etiquette regardless of the levels

[young shoal]

this is why you can't be segregating the lunch tables 😔

[solid elbow]

you're also cultivating different kinds of relationships. You don't need your boss's boss to be someone you want to invite over for barbecues, you just want them to be someone who thinks you're smart, capable, and trustworthy

[warped sentinel]

and not a 12years old kid who communicates like on a discord server

[solemn tulip]

dependency injection, presumably

[young shoal]

ridiculous

[solemn tulip]

something something testability

I had to rewrite a decent chunk of code to do that recently

of course not to that degree, but still

just so I could sensibly mock the things

[warped sentinel]

are you testing your logger?

[young shoal]

different logging config ?

[solemn tulip]

ok, I did not do it with a logger

[solemn tulip]

the more likely thing is to replace it with something that's no-op

or if you actually care about log statements some kind of mock

[warped sentinel]

sounds like a compiler problem

[solemn tulip]

how is it a compiler problem?

[warped sentinel]

I have other languages in mind, but I would assume that a compiler could see a noop implementation and optimize that away

There are already some tricky parts at play like making sure you don't allocate unnecessary strings when calling a logger.trace in the case the log level is configured higher than that

but as usual, the devil is in the details

[solemn tulip]

the point is to be able to abstract some component away

if component C uses some other component X that has logic/side effects I really don't want to exercise in the test, the ability of swapping out component X out is invaluable

[warped sentinel]

yeah DI is great in general

[tulip falcon]

I played Djangos today

Goodnight pydis

[solemn tulip]

for my thing what I really wanted to abstract away was quite expensive calls to backends

because expensive and making the tests non-hermetic

[warped sentinel]

A good DI framework can be invaluable

[solemn tulip]

(and I suspect our testing stuff wouldn't allow such calls regardless)

[warped sentinel]

like injecting a list of components that match an interface or some other cool things

[solemn tulip]

it's a blessing and a curse

on one hand, convenient

on the other hand, figuring out where a component comes from can be hell

[warped sentinel]

some folks prefer static DI. I do prefer runtime DI though

[solemn tulip]

I have nightmares about dagger and the like

[warped sentinel]

spring ftw

[solemn tulip]

though at least dagger doesn't do reflection nonsense

and then we have C++ where some code I have to deal with does purely manual DI

[young shoal]

asp net DI is goated

[solemn tulip]

and you end up with functions that take like 30 arguments

[young shoal]

manual DI sounds....interesting

though i guess i have written code that does that in rust 🤔

[solemn tulip]

manual DI is just...plumbing arguments

dealing with merge conflicts from people adding arguments which causes the huge argument list to be reformatted is extra fun

especially when there are a lot of people touching that code at any given time

[young shoal]

MVCC when?

[solemn tulip]

(at least the one >1k line function we had got broken up to be a tad more sane, but still very not sane)

[young shoal]

bruh

[solemn tulip]

the function was basically "business logic goes here" 😅

[young shoal]

😭

[solemn tulip]

it was from before my time, I just arrived early enough to observe it

[young shoal]

at least it's all in one place 🤔

[solemn tulip]

except the stuff that wasn't

there was still a bunch of calling out to other code, so reading that function wasn't really enough to know exactly what was going on

[young shoal]

was it like a main loop type of situation

[solemn tulip]

the main flow of something

though not a loop

the flow of one request

[young shoal]

every path?

[warped sentinel]

huge argument lists is a sign that maybe some of these should be encapsulated

[solemn tulip]

oh some of it is bundled together

like one huge config

[warped sentinel]

if there is a huge list of orthogonal arguments can also be a sign that this class is doing too much

[solemn tulip]

I mean, when it's the thing that houses all the logic, and it does manual DI as well...

things get ugly very quickly

[warped sentinel]

It shouldn't

that would be a sign it's doing too much

SRP ftw

[solemn tulip]

the responsibility is "respond to this request" 🥴

[warped sentinel]

like any other controller

[solemn tulip]

I think the current state of things is a few hundred lines of flow control (if this flag is set, do this processing step)

[wicked haven]

They need Rust macros

[warped sentinel]

That's why there are service classes

the controller coordinate the interaction with the endpoint while the service deals with the business concerns

That promotes reusability and testability

[solemn tulip]

the interaction with the endpoint meaning what?

io?

[warped sentinel]

basically

[solemn tulip]

that's already separate

[warped sentinel]

the model for the endpoint

[solemn tulip]

this is one big function that transforms a request into a response

[warped sentinel]

that's my point: it shouldn't. there should be service classes to help encapsulate the business logic

[solemn tulip]

and in the process calls out to a lot of stuff that can do processing, depending on configs

[solemn tulip]

wdym exactly? there are a bunch of components that can do a bunch of logic that are called out to, it's not like all logic is inlined

if it was this function would probably be 10s of thousands of lines

just the flow handling itself makes up most of the mess of that function

[warped sentinel]

It means that all the logic called out should be in service classes, DAOs, etc.
The controller should only concern itself about calling out to 1-2 service classes and massaging the endpoint models in/out

to that end, the controller's methods should be rather small

[solemn tulip]

so as said, this thing itself doesn't do io at all

that's further out

this is (I guess) a big blob of service logic

I guess it's actually split into stages, like some preprocess stage, doing a heavy call to something else, and then postprocessing

but even just the postprocessing is this kind of long mess

(and at some point all these stages were in the same function, that was the even more terrible initial state I mentioned)

the sad part is that I actually have memorized the rough shapes of that monster of code 🥴

"oh you want this piece of filtering going on in the postprocessing? yeah just deep dive into these branches"

[young shoal]

😔

[warped sentinel]

sooooo still a sign it should be broken apart

kill that thing with fire

[solemn tulip]

which is not likely going to happen with 100s of engineers poking at the code 😭

[warped sentinel]

That has never been a problem for me

or other folks in my network ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[open fern]

sometimes writing a helper function goes a long way in cleaning up code 🌺

[quasi blaze]

These new otn’s aren’t even funny…

[grave cove]

funny is subjective

[low chasm]

I see no problems with #ot2-never-nester’s-nightmare

[vale raven]

Yours went away?

[grave cove]

i thought he was the merge man

[vale raven]

It changes week-to-week

You of all people should know how that is

I don’t

[grave cove]

based

[vale raven]

I apparently had my name changing privileges revoked

[rough sapphire]

haha

[low chasm]

lol on my client it still says 'rust is good'

discord moment

just updated

[grave cove]

what

[quasi blaze]

Apparently, otn’s are created “organically” not sure why the hell it would matter how otn’s are created, A good otn is a good otn. The end product should matter and I thought that would be obvious. Otn’s are chosen by nepotism it seems.

[low chasm]

the last otn for ot2 was "rust is good"

[grave cove]

ah

Couldn't agree more

[low chasm]

otn's are added by mods+, so it's generally stuff that, at the very least, we find funny - and as established, funny is subjective

it's also like, not that deep

[grave cove]

it's funny when something in context is taken out. When you just make something up out of nowhere it's not funny

[low chasm]

that's also sort of the appeal of starboards and similar things

[grave cove]

also the names don't mean much to most people and they won't find it funny. IMO it's more for the people that were involved in that convo

[quasi blaze]

When you just make something up out of nowhere it's not funny

Hmmm. But stand up comics do that all the time

[low chasm]

in this context, is what robin means.

[grave cove]

Not really. Stand up comedians often time tell stories

[young shoal]

"rust is pretty good"

[low chasm]

right whatever, close enough

[low chasm]

eh, on the other hand, they do crowdwork and such, which is arguably "out of nowhere"

[young shoal]

but there's always context for things

[low chasm]

the point here is, there's no rule we use for adding otn's, nor is there some objective measure of "funny" that we go by to decide on them.

[eternal depot]

All of my otns have happened orgasmically

[quasi blaze]

When you just make something up out of nowhere it's not funny

This is also contradictory to what somebody else said about otn’s are made organically. If you’ve made the claim that when you make something up out of nowhere, why add the otn’s organically?

[grave cove]

I'm not sure what you're saying

[quasi blaze]

So what do you mean by “make up stuff out of nowhere” then?

[grave cove]

like, we don't make OTNs where some random person comes up to us and says "hey make XYZ an otn I think it's funny"

[eternal depot]

Give the guy a break; his shadow made him do it.

[grave cove]

We usually do it when there's a conversation happening and someone says something absurd or funny, and we take it out of context and put it in an OTN

[low chasm]

there's really no need for snide comments

[grave cove]

also like aboo said it's not that deep

we see something funny we make it an otn. Pretty much it

[eternal depot]

That's why Robin's code is in so many OTNs

[grave cove]

so true

[young shoal]

jah the one PR you made was completely broken and didn't even try to accomplish the goal

[grave cove]

you did not have to do him like that 😭

[eternal depot]

I made it on vacation!

[quasi blaze]

Well I made a whole bunch of creative suggestions

[eternal depot]

My brain must have been on vacation too

[young shoal]

bro it had syntax errors 😭

[low chasm]

tfw linting before you push

[eternal depot]

Blame Tennessee

They don't have decent internet

[low chasm]

in this case it was more of a "actually running the code before you push"

[eternal depot]

Also, we didn't have a testing infra then... (And still don't?)

[low chasm]

for mainframe? we do now, I suppose

[quasi blaze]

otn-def-syntaxerror()

[young shoal]

🤔

i feel like you're trying too hard

[quasi blaze]

Okay? A good otn is a good otn

Who cares

[young shoal]

it makes it not a good otn

[quasi blaze]

The outcome should matter

No music listener cares about how a song is made. The end product is the goal.

[young shoal]

the analogy doesn't work

[eternal depot]

This is not even close to being true

[young shoal]

it's like listening to the bridge of a song without listening to any other parts of the song

or only the chorus

[quasi blaze]

That…wasn’t the point of the analogy

[young shoal]

i know what the point is, your analogy was just not great

[quasi blaze]

They don’t care if the producer used FL Studio, Logic Pro, Pro Tools, what studio microphone they used and etc

[young shoal]

of course not, all otns are made on discord, so why would that matter

[quasi blaze]

Which goes back to my point that the end product matters

Doesn’t matter if I’m trying hard

Or not

[young shoal]

yeah but you kinda miss the point of otns in general

[quasi blaze]

The end product should matter

[young shoal]

who said it doesn't

[quasi blaze]

So then why are telling you me it doesn’t make it a good otn because I’m trying hard as you say?

[young shoal]

more things matter than the end product 😌

[eternal depot]

The otn you suggested is not good.

One possible explanation for it not being good is that you're trying too hard.

[quasi blaze]

That logically makes no sense

[eternal depot]

I.e. cause and effect.

[grave cove]

Why not?

[young shoal]

or, another way of looking at it is, the context is part of the end product

the otn must summarize something funny that happened

[quasi blaze]

If one orders well done meat, they want the end product to be well done meat.

[low chasm]

@crystal spruce hi I require a formal definition of that which is the "otn"

[grave cove]

what if it's not halal

[eternal depot]

What if it's not kosher?

[young shoal]

you're picking processes that could be represented by state functions, but otns are not the same

[quasi blaze]

Then one would order halal well done meat.

[low chasm]

it needs to be all fancy and use latex

[grave cove]

Then you're incorporating the how into the what, same with OTNs

[quasi blaze]

End products should matter the most for everything in life

[grave cove]

It always does

[young shoal]

i've got a great way to solve world hunger for you 😛

[eternal depot]

It's not the destination it's the journey...

[quasi blaze]

So who cares if I’m trying hard to come up with creative otns?

[grave cove]

We usually want organic OTNs, I believe that's the term someone else used

It being "organic" is part of the end product

[young shoal]

i mean come on, organic is better for you

[eternal depot]

All OTNs must be carbon based.

You heard it here first.

[grave cove]

carbon based or just based?

[soft violet]

Silicon, please.

[young shoal]

based? on carbon

[soft violet]

We're programmers.

[low chasm]

no GMO's in my otn's 😤

[solid elbow]

we don't usually want OTNs that are someone trying to come up with a funny OTN - we want OTNs where someone said something that someone else found funny enough to be worth immortalizing as an OTN

[young shoal]

organic doesn't imply non GMO though

[eternal depot]

Soylent OTNs are people too

[grave cove]

The history of his a certain OTN came to be is important. It's part of the OTN, the end product

[low chasm]

alright then, I want organic and non GMO otn's

[young shoal]

GMOs are based

most of the time

[low chasm]

fine then, I want organic and non GMO but only the bad ones otn's

[young shoal]

only the good ones

[low chasm]

yeah that's what it means

all GMO's save from the bad ones

or well, non GMO but only the bad ones is non GMOing the bad ones

[grave cove]

non gmo otn

[eternal depot]

Also Aboo you probably would prefer free range over organic. Organic has too many loopholes. It's mostly just a label to justify higher prices

[quasi blaze]

otn-solve-world-hunger

There I thought this was funny

[low chasm]

free range otn's?

[young shoal]

that probably already is one

[quasi blaze]

Please create that as an otn

[young shoal]

free range is interesting but also kinda expensive

[solid elbow]

this doesn't capture the joke

[grave cove]

what about paid range

[solid elbow]

the joke was that you could solve world hunger by killing all people

[eternal depot]

Deer are free range and inexpensive

[low chasm]

free, but you need to pay taxes on it-range

[young shoal]

literally 💀

[grave cove]

sad

[young shoal]

free range? don't you usually shoot from further away?

[grave cove]

me when the free range is not free

false advertising

[eternal depot]

Depends? Anything 15-100 yards is pretty ethical.

[grave cove]

Why is it less ethical farther away?

Not a clean kill?

[young shoal]

harder, yeah

[eternal depot]

Yeah. The chances of missing and leaving an animal wounded but not dead go up.

[quasi blaze]

…are you kidding me?

Where has the name of ot1 been referenced on this server?

[young shoal]

it could be in a channel you can't see

[quasi blaze]

https://tenor.com/view/cmon-dude-cmon-man-come-on-man-gif-15666447

[grave cove]

It's in a staff channel

[young shoal]

source?

[undone thorn]

mods naming the channels after a bunch of inside jokes lol

[quasi blaze]

Okay. So this definitely confirms that they are being named by nepotism

[grave cove]

it is pretty funny though

i mean, if your goal is to cram hotdogs into a stomach and not to make moralistic judgements about hotdog eating, then the blender assistant funnel system sounds pretty effective

[quasi blaze]

No point of trying to come up with otn names anymore

[undone thorn]

wha- how did you come to that conclusion

[young shoal]

is that kat

[undone thorn]

nepotism?

[grave cove]

It's less funny if you try to purposely come up with them

[eternal depot]

Can we rename ot1 ke1?

[grave cove]

don't think so

didn't catch who it was

[undone thorn]

keezys-free-speech-zone

[solid elbow]

Scofflaw: i mean, if your goal is to cram hotdogs into a stomach and not to make moralistic judgements about hotdog eating, then the blender assistant funnel system sounds pretty effective

apparently that was where this OTN came from - it was in a staff channel 🙂

[young shoal]

ah, scofflaw, of course

[grave cove]

of course

[low chasm]

scofflaw vibes

[young shoal]

one must imagine scofflaw a hotdog consumer

[eternal depot]

I'm picturing a beer bong turned into a hotdog bong

[grave cove]

🤨

[young shoal]

what's a beer bong 🤔

[eternal depot]

It's a funnel with a tube that permits one to consume beverage quickly

[quasi blaze]

Maybe for you yeah

Humour is too subjective

[young shoal]

i see

is bong a generic term

[quasi blaze]

Nobody should be gatekeeping what’s funny and what’s not like I have seen people do

[low chasm]

well yeah, there's no objective measure of what's funny

[quasi blaze]

My humour can be different from everybody elses

I like dark humour

[young shoal]

it's inherently being gatekept though. mods control the otn system

[quasi blaze]

But people are too sensitive for dark jokes

[solid elbow]

subjectively, none of the mods who've noticed your otn suggestions have found any of them funny enough to memorialize as an otn

[young shoal]

i too am a dark humor enjoyer

there's a time and place 😌

[eternal depot]

My objective measure of funniness is anything Gaffigan says

[grave cove]

very aware

[quasi blaze]

Indeed. Which is why we both have to create a persona (psychology) that adheres to the code of conduct.

[young shoal]

you should make a funny persona that also happens to adhere to the code of conduct

[grave cove]

[solid elbow]

most people don't need to create some alternative persona in order to avoid being a dick to others

[crystal spruce]

what?

uh

[grave cove]

Stickie on his way to write a mathematical theorem for defining funny objectively

[crystal spruce]

can't be bothered

just write a regex for it

[quasi blaze]

otn-mathematical-theorem-for-defining-funny

[crystal spruce]

keezy i think you're trying too hard

[grave cove]

Restating what someone else said probably doesnt make the cut either IMO

[grave cove]

to this day I do not know how to write regex

😔

[young shoal]

huh i thought you did aoc

[grave cove]

never stuck with it

[young shoal]

https://regexcrossword.com/ do this

[crystal spruce]

just read the re docs

that's how i learnt regex

[quasi blaze]

https://tenor.com/view/what-more-do-you-want-from-me-crying-emotional-what-do-you-want-gif-14843331

[young shoal]

cringe

[grave cove]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/751486216574337117/978785352741433344/ezgif-4-04488ff962.gif

[young shoal]

i think if you really wanted to make that into an otn, you would do funny-theorem

[grave cove]

even that's not that funny

[young shoal]

because the double meaning

[quasi blaze]

I’ve given up

Nepotism is undefeated

[grave cove]

I don't think that's really nepotism

[honest star]

Just be funnier

[young shoal]

always with the blaming others 😔

[grave cove]

truly some advice

[young shoal]

first with the job apps, now this

[quasi blaze]

You said it yourself that humor is gatekept, why bother?

[young shoal]

i did not, i said the otn system was

[quasi blaze]

That’s what I’m saying

[young shoal]

yeah, it's not based on nepotism though

i mean, it probably is to some degree, but not really

[quasi blaze]

Maybe I should stop seeking approval of others

[rugged owl]

Yea, damn parking people gave me a $55 parking ticket. Smh

[grave cove]

Trying to be funny just to get onto the OTNs is not the way to go

Be funny for the sake of being funny, to make people laugh

[young shoal]

55 is incredible

so true

the goal is not the otn

omg it's like that law where if you start measuring metrics everything breaks or osmething

[rugged owl]

otn?

[grave cove]

quantum superposition i think

[young shoal]

off topic name

[quasi blaze]

Yeah but we know how easily people can be offended for trying to be funny

[rugged owl]

oh

[warped sentinel]

goodhart's law

[young shoal]

that's why if your goal is to be funny, you should read the room

[grave cove]

Where a particle can be in multiple states, but collapses into one state if you try to measure it. is that what you meant?

[rugged owl]

I think it's just you bringing up shadow something every day

[young shoal]

that sounds about right

[honest star]

When the measure becomes the metric, you stop being effective or whatever

[young shoal]

no lol

[grave cove]

nvm then

[honest star]

Ah, Goodhart's law

[quasi blaze]

You want to delve into that topic right now? 🙂

[green pelican]

I'm way to high for this

[crystal spruce]

lmao

[honest star]

"when a measure becomes a target, it ceases to be a good measure"

[rugged owl]

[quasi blaze]

All right. No problem.

[young shoal]

you might even call it...an axiom

i mean, not in the mathematical definition, but

[crystal spruce]

there's a definition for axiom outside of the mathematical one?

[young shoal]

whatever one keezy was using

[quasi blaze]

I think I will look more into The Dark Triad

[grave cove]

what's that

[quasi blaze]

It refers to three personality traits: Narcissism, Machiavellianism and Psychopathy

[green pelican]

Joe

[grave cove]

That sounds like a bad path to go down

[crystal spruce]

i mean just studying them is fine i think

[young shoal]

but why

get a hobby

[green pelican]

Says a programmer

Haha

[grave cove]

I hear fresh air is good for your health