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@spiral bear electricity doesn't "move". As I've said, it's a human buzzword and it doesn't make sense to talk about in technical levels
If I pick up a battery I'm moving electricity
But what if the battery is plugged in?
To?
"The circuit"
That doesn't make electricity some physical object all of a sudden
what if i throw the battery really really hard
What about the electricity between me and your mom?
Check. Mate.
emphasis on the mate 😉😉
Gross
you cant just call someone's mom gross
GROSS 🤢
you can't just call someone's desktop environment gross
unless there's a tiling wm involved
👀
Super gross
actually I guess it doesn't count, since "tiling wm" means, like, tiling being the default behaviour
what even is a tiling wm
a wm that tiles
i am considering qubes OS as my next OS
ik it's a security os but i like the isolation
this is all a win-win situation
running down fans when walking up fans show up
classic one from chad sanderson @hexed sierra @rugged owl
be me, only work on infra
chad
ABSOLUTE skill issue
as opposed to yours, with negative roi due to giant aws logging bills?
It was Azure, and that was a work project, and yeah, I learned not to do that again, that was a good ROI
had a feeling you were gonna say it was azure instead
Why didn’t you say Azure then?
didn't feel like editing, and wasn't sure
Me who's currently learning about payback period 
ever wanted your windows to be automatically laid out neatly for you? without any overlaps or wasted space?
that
WSL and window tiling is different
windows actually has it built in, but it's very basic
yeah windows+arrow key
it's not automatic though
you need to manually do the thing
but i don't have a window to manage so meh
i really like pop OS auto tiling manager
It looks almost silly on my ultrawide
clock blocked
i3 has a nice tree based structure
not too bad considering it's windows
Y'all use powertoys?
ya
i tried it out, wasn't really useful for me
that would be roughly what's in my screenshot
I think there are some more containers
if i had more screenspace i would go wild with the tmux panes fr
one nice thing is just plain space usage, and not having to dig for that one window in the stack is nice
I remember having to use windows for one internship after getting used to tiling wms
hsp is lit?
I got so frustrated...
did wsl not exist 😔
😩 is somewhat apt
that doesn't help with the "dig through a stack of windows for the one I'm looking for"
and I think this was pre wsl, but that wouldn't have helped so much
it was not just terminal work
huh, got ghostpinged here
i'm tryna get a pet tape worm so it can help me chew my food
recently i found bear with tapeworm in his ass and im obbesed with it i cant sleep
poor bear he must felt very itchy
i sure am
proof?
a goddess revealed it to me in a dream
I did no such thing
What
The fudge
lmao
an ongoing joke with a friend
So in my program, I received a 400 response code and on postman, I received the 401 response code. Strange.
not really. That means something is different between the postman environment and your code environment
unless the server is randomly picking a response code to give you
Postman can give you snippets in a bunch of languages that would create the request youre trying
A = XA
where's NAND
Xand looks awesome
When I used environment variables on Postman, I get the 400 response
When I don’t, I get the 401 response 🥴
401>>>>400
So, when you turn on auth, you get invalid request, and when you turn off your auth, it says your auth is not correct?
LGTM
Sounds like auth is working
Time to figure out what about your request the upstream is considering invalid
What's the response body?
does using environment variables in postman imply auth is being turned on and off? the api is external
Postman in particular screams at you to move your auth to the enviornment to "protect it"
postman sucks
I'm assuming they just followed the instructions
apparently its valued at 1b USD
It's aight
its nice but it has too much VC money it
requests > postman
its a wrapper around curl but they want to treat it like its windows 20
i just wish i could log my requests to git
i hate have 2 sources for truth for APIs
swagger solves that forme
They can but it's a giant PITA
this is nice, but it still ends up with 2 sources of truth, i was thinking more of something like fastAPI 
but i guess that hinges on framework support more?

i want to be able to see all API changes in one PR for example
so that when something changes in an API, i can see it all in one place, the code change
next to the API change
next to the tests
I got an email back from the software support specialist. I get the 200 response code without using the environment variables on Postman after I read the email. I’m still getting the 400 error response code in the program though 😕
I've gotten that a couple of different times
We're really going to need actually see the code and the request to see what does and doesn't work to be able to help you
You have to be a current customer to access the docs
So we can't
hecking ripoff
based company
!ban
Here is an excerpt of the docs
Method 1 - API Keys - Member Authentication
It is recommended to create API Members versus using API Keys tied to a specific member.
Authorization: Basic base64(companyid+publickey:privatekey)
(Authorization: Basic *(random characters in this fields)*```
that is not what public and private key mean 🗿
The previous developer wrote a encode_base64() function with three parameters. Unsure if the function needs to be modified after the sandbox reset
wait are they using priv keys as passwords? lmao
based API i guess ¯_(ツ)_/¯
its literally this
correct job wrong use
i assume they're just normal passwords but they call them private keys 😩
Probably not, as long as it just concats, encodes, and returns
thats the most likely explanation, my boss refuses to call staging servers staging and isntead calls them dev servers
so now the dev environment actually means staging
and local means dev
There’s different kinds of encoding like ascii, utf-8 and etc
which sucks because its a reserved word in react
Base64*
What does the function say?
They have a variable initialized as
base64.b64encode(auth.encode('ascii')
why did they write their own encoding function?
It’s for encoding the credentials and then decode them after to put into the authorization header
why does getting new credentials change that?
It doesn’t. I had to make a new api member after the sandbox reset
probably don't need to change it then
400 response code is the biggest technical mystery to solve ever
any error without docs or source code is a big technical mystery
Idk why they didn’t make the api docs public smh
which is why unchecked errors are BAD because they make it impossible to differentiate between expected and unexpected errors
errors are values are better
thats why today ssponsoer, the rust foundation, have asked me to tell you about this cool language
crabspeak
didn't you say you have docs though...
like, didn't you just post an excerpt
You need to be registered on the site to have access to the api doc. Therefore, it’s not public.
hi guys
don't you have access though
Yeah
so why does it matter if they're not available to everyone 🤔. you can see them. you should use them
You guys have any idea why an API request would be successful on Postman but receive a 400 response code on a program?
skill
PEBCAK
hidden headers in postman?
what's that
have you tried exporting it with postman?
problem exists between chair and keyboard
see if hte exported code is similar to your code
something is different
is that a fancy way of saying skill issue?
if u click on the </> symbol on the right
far right of the screen
you can find a code generator
export the code and see if theres anything hidden
maybe its an env var somewhere?
youre pretty good at finding things in the far right, you should be able to do this 
my suspictions are:
incorrect headers
DNS error but thats unlikely
cause postman does set a lot of headers for you
it's always DNS
(probably not though)
DNS stands for "does no shit"
they are the printers of the networking world
jk printers are worse
No. How do I do that?
start with the instructions they wrote
look at the right most bit
click the </>
Ahhh
it lets you export
this should show you information in a non convuluted postman format
Where is the export button?
Can I copy and paste the code instead? Or is there a difference?
it shows you code and you copy paste it like a 1st year CS student

it even has a "i dont know how to highlight" button
Ahh
FKA "i my C key is fucking broken" button
you expect too much of a freshman cs student
But how come it doesn’t show my public and private keys in the code?

because that's a horrific security nightmare
not sure honestly, i dont use postman that much
im a swagger kinda person
are you sure ur auth keys are formatted correctly
like
when you copy pasted them
did you drop the first or last character?
lol
or maybe forgot the word "Bearer"
hate to admit how much time i wasted cause of that

So there’s something wrong with how my credentials are encoded in the program
did u forget to encodeURLComponent it?
if its in the query string, you need to encode it
and also that means you need to use SSL otherwise ur token is bye bye 
This is how the developer wrote the base64 encode function
def encode_base64(company_id, public_key, private_key):
auth = company_id + public_key + private_key
auth_base64_bytes = base64.b64encode(auth.encode('ascii'))
auth_base64_encoded = auth_base64_bytes.decode('ascii')
return auth_base64_encoded
where typehints?
is the key in the header or query params?
also calling it public and private key is stupid
Is it?
so true
why does it encode and decode 20 times
I changed the original variables and they weren’t logically consistent. My fault.
yes
Encode with ASCII, encode encoded ASCII with base64, decode encoded encoded ASCII with ASCII
👍
the only one that isn't necessary is the last decode
Header

Converts to bytes for base64 and converts the bytes back to str for requests
they just need a | b64enc fr
What hecking ridiculous ahh language is that?
go
ewwww
go templates, really
Thanks for your help bro @glossy niche
gong sounds likea cool language, i should try it
keezy you should rewrite your entire company's tech stack in rust
so true
it would be a haha funny moment
The Python code provided by postman actually works but now I need to investigate why the original functions in the program are getting a 400 error response
Maybe the authorization header needs to be updated.
!paste the two of them side by side and we can look
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why is there .equals
guava
java does not have operator overloading
ah ok thanks
My shift is almost done
icy
Aight
All good
I’m here all week
I emailed the software support specialist. I provided all the information as possible. (Gave them the current authorization header, asked how the credentials are supposed to be encoded and etc.)
you emailed your keys?
can i have cc
No they’re covered lol
Lol
isn't all that info in the docs you showed us 🤔
Yeah but the Python code they provided in the docs to send GET requests comes back with a 400 response code 
no doctests, stinky
i help out a lot of new comers to competitive programming on discord in my uni, and they all assume that just telling me that their code does not work is enough information for me to help them 
normally i respond by asking them to think of me as a computer and to provide precise instructions
Worth a shot
@quasi blaze , please treat @glossy niche like a computer. You’ll need to give them very precise instructions about what you need.
can i get a cheeseburger with no fries
no fries on the cheesburger or no fries in the drink?
sir the cheeseburger does not contain any fries
why not?
Fries in burgers is peak
so true
fr*nch 🤮 fries
you are tripping
so guys
I was talking to some people
and they told me Data Science Masters is shit
and that it wont get me any job
O_O
is that true?
No
yeah
Statistics discord told me i was idiot for pursuing a masters in data science
lul
What did they recommend instead
people will always tell you different things. Do what you think is right or what makes you happy
they recommended Computer Science
:/
I mean what difference does it make
CS masters with DS track has the same courses
I have a group chat with all of my elementary school classmates and nobody knows what they wanna do for the next reunion
Lunch?
We have a group of 14 people. I don’t think any restaurant can fit a table with 14 people.
connect tables duh
Yeah
It’ll be two or three tables
Could even push them together
Ye
worked for me
just give a call ahead of time
"Hello, I would like to make a reservation for 14 people on day X and time Y. kthanxbai"
expect 20% tips because of large groups
(for the waiter)
I have an idea for an off topic channel name
🗿 me and my group of 18 friends have dinner together every day in the cafeteria. We can fit all of them
Something like life-notfound-exception
no shot a restaurant can't
How much do you have to pay these friends to eat with you?
Do you raise that exception? Asking for a friend
You mean how much they pay to eat with me?

You do be drippin
drippin with-
Stank
No I have a life
I remain unconvinced
But I would raise other exceptions for sure though
ValueError?
No. Other exceptions other than LifeNotFoundException
Right. ValueError is another type of exception.
Well I was referring to customized exceptions.
Why would all of your exceptions be customized?
Maybe someone is looking to build a game with them.
You're a game now?
Maybe they want customized instructions for an exception
Can't you just do that with the detail text of standard exceptions?
raise ValueError("expected integer < 7")
TypeError?
raise PocketNotFoundError
Sure.
I sincerely feel fortunate that I landed a job as a jr developer . I just saw a job ad on LinkedIn and 1,500 people applied. It’s tough
This is why I’ve been saying it’s a battle
You can see the number of applicants for a job?
I'd have thought that's protected information
Cripes. A shop with 11-50 employees doesn't even have a fraction of the manpower needed to review 1602 applications
most are bots or unqualified
if you're good, you'll get a job
plus it's frontend, lower barrier to entry
I disagree. I reckon people that are excellent don’t even get selected for an interview.
That's why people use the shotgun approach nowadays
Unless you are a provable high value individual.
of course, that's why people apply to more than one job
if you're good your chances of getting a job are pretty high if you apply to a dozen or so jobs
results may vary but that seems about right
I wish there was a weekly voice-chat event
There's people in the VCs here almost every day
How many people on average?
If they were that good, they would have a good resume
I would argue that some great people are poor at making resumes.
then they weren't great to start with
I think dowcet mentioned this one time when i didn't have a developer job and I'm paraphrasing this: There's too much subjectivity like racism and nepotism that comes into account when it comes to getting selected for interview.
It changed my whole perspective on applying for jobs.
Sounds like coping
Well is he wrong?
dowcet's message is a lot more nuanced
would someone being racist prevent you from getting a very specific job? Sure.
Would racism prevent you from getting jobs? nope
But it will defintely take longer to land an interview
would someone being racist make it longer to land an interview for a very specific job? Sure.
Would racism make it take longer from landing an interview? nope
that's why people apply to more than one job
5-15
Anyway, point being is that it’s clearly not coping when nepotism and racism can actually hinder you from landing an interview and/or a job. Even the way your hairstyle is, it all plays a factor.
It’s not some coping mechanism
that's why people apply to more than one job...
Asserting hardly make it clear
if it's happening at all the places you apply to, it's not the companies being racist
"you" being a general candidate, of course
Applying for jobs isn’t a brute force objective thing to measure.
it's not even a measurement 🤔 it's an action
I mean the HR or recruiters don’t purely and objectively measure how skilled the applicants are. There’s subjectivities that influences their decision in picking who they want to interview.
I don’t like the “if you’re good, you would be picked for an interview.” rhetoric
Because it’s not true
they are meant to have candidates demonstrate skills.
If a candidate can't even give a hint they possess these skills on their resume, they obviously and demonstrably were not good
Goes back to my point on how applicants can lose an interview opportunity by nepotism.
Let's say they loose one job by nepotism. What about the 9 other jobs?
again, that's why people apply to multiple jobs
applications are designed to find the best candidates, in general. if you're not getting picked, you're not what they're looking for
Several of them probably never had their resume read which happens to a lot of people. The other 3 jobs they applied for probably thought they weren’t a good fit; Which could be because they are just really bad on writing an excellent resume (Poor choice of adjectives used in the resume, bad at marketing their skills) when they are definitely right for the job. The other 2 times could be that they have bad formatting on their resume to pass the ATS scanners that some companies use.
that's why they apply to more than 3 jobs
Why are they not allowed to continue applying after that?
I was just answering his question.
- If they didn't have their resume read, then the manager wasn't really hiring or their resume wasn't that interesting
- Bad writing on the resume obviously demonstrate the opposite of an excellent resume. It shows they had terrible communication skills
- ATSes are mostly fancy spreadsheet. There isn't much processing or filtering done by the ATS itself
for formatting, it's literally just formatting. it's not hard to do
just pick a common template
you could even say it shows the candidate can't follow directions 🤷♂️
- If they didn't have their resume read, then the manager wasn't really hiring or their resume wasn't that interesting
Maybe they literally had thousands of resume and decided to only go through a portion of the thousand?
if they have a hard time to write a simple page about themselves, it would be difficult to communicate across multiple people or projects
It may happen. But then that's also why you apply to multiple jobs to reduce such likelihood
And I think you are also forgetting that some excellent developers have poor interviewee skills
I didn't forget that, not that I agree with it. I also didn't forget some interviewers are terrible at interviewing.
But all in all, it's just coping
employers are looking for more than just good devs
If people start blaming their lack of success on nepotism here, racism there, bad interviewer over there and making excuse for their resume, then it removes the accountability part of the process.
It's far more healthy to think about it in terms of understanding what the other side is trying to assess for and how can one improve themselves to go beyond it. To that end, people apply to multiple jobs, take the learning from their failures and don't just try to blame them on others
a good dev is not just a troglodyte leaving in their mom's basement
relatable
I have to do more than that!?!?
on the bright side, you will get paid for it
wait you get paid to live in moms basement?
that's wild
your mom definitely pays me
🤨🤨🤨
tbh I don't even know what that would mean
neither does your father
when you are old enough, you then pay for your mom to live in your basement
It’s coping for acknowledging that nepotism and racism plays a factor in not getting selected for an interview?
Because that was dowcet’s whole point
yes. Their contributions are negligible
I guess…by that logic anything you acknowledge that could be a downside to any situation you are in is coping.
Dowcet's point is that there are factors outside of your control. It does not mean that hiring is completely unpredictable and random nor that hiring decisions are solely made based on factors outside of your control
If people deflect everything towards other people while ignoring their own contributions, then yeah, it's coping
Money is colorblind.
@quasi blaze Wait I thought you have a job rn?
Like a SWE job?
Someone told me you did, or maybe I'm reading into this convo too much (idk the context of this convo)
His lore is incomprehensibly large 😔
Yeah 
Deep fried emoji lol
I do
I dont think i've been to a house with a basement before
Maybe i just havent noticed
Im only interested in going up 💸💸💸
Me too
I hope I go up some day
Actually, after a brief retrospection, the only direction I'm going is down.
basements are dead thanks to parking minimums
the oppression of games is leaving us homeless
i just found out that my current computer science teacher wants us to store passwords as a string so no hash function or anything
it may never contain any real passwords but at least do good practices
they probably dont trust their users with hashing
why wouldn't the teacher trust us with 6 lines of code
hashing isnt hard but if it isnt the point of the course, then i would understand
ik but still it's better to not know why to hash and use it than not knowing and not using it
it may only take like 5min to explain the benefits
and we have to learn it later this year
general computer science and the usage is a database
learning how to use those
well it's basically highschool 16-18 year olds

in HS we barely learned any code outside scratch and some arduino so i can honestly understand
the concept of a hash function can be a little out of scope here
the concept would be but usage wouldn't be
it takes like 5min to say.
use some hash function because it allows you to securely store the passwords in a way that no one that gets access to the database can look at the passwords directly they will see a bunch of kinda useless things that are created by a hash function and that function returns always the same output with the same input
im gonna start calling programmer who think that functional programming ==== when everything is an expression "dysfunctional programmers"
this decision comes after i saw a piece of code that had an if with an assignment in a ternary in each branch all in an if in a for each in an if in a for each
Error: unparsable sentence

Comma is like parenthesis grammatically for me to know what is of another, otherwise convoluted to keep track of
How so?
Cause we don't know 😔
They are mysterious
Trust the man who says a lot, beware the man who says little for they will do something dangerously stupid when they do
quite kid?
Source?
I'm not worried about you, you've said enough to be trusted at face value.
Live and let live as they say
sun tzu
No it's Jack ma
oh ok
basically the same
Great author
I apply his teachings whenever I play Chess.
48 Laws of Power is good book as well. Great teachings.
Law 1: Never outshine the master
Nice! Though I have never been into chess. There was a period in my senior year of HS where it was a big thing. Was pretty funny though lol
Better than some new TikTok trend I suppose
This is why you don’t argue with superiors especially if you are technically correct.
Make them think they are correct
how would any of sun tzu's teachings be applicable to chess
wasn't it written like a thousand years ago anyway
doesn't seem like applying it to the modern workplace would end up well
you will be a very sad engineer if you don't advocate for your ideas
you will be a sad human if you don't advocate for yourself in general
“The whole secret lies in confusing the enemy, so that he cannot fathom our real intent.” Is one of his quotes
Cause confusion on the chessboard so your opponent doesn’t know what you’re trying to do.
it doesn't work in chess
Yes it does if your opponent is rated 900
i mean, ok
ah yes, the classic: knock off all the pieces on the board to sow confusion
truly a strategy of the learned grandmaster
any strategy will work if you're sufficiently higher rated than your opponent
Lol idk 😂
“So in war, the way is to avoid what is strong, and strike at what is weak.” Is also one of his quotes.
Strike what is weak in Chess is capturing an undefended piece.
truly profound. it takes a genius to think of these
if your opponent is rated 400, you can take defended pieces
The better one from sun Tzu which will apply is "know your enemy, to know yourself". By studying thier openings, you can defeat them probably ¯_(ツ)_/¯
The pigeon method
Be good instead of bad
- old man mar
Write it down
See? Goes to show how you can apply his teachings into Chess
this does actually matter at the top level, but other than that, you just play what you play
"Skill issue? Just don't"
You really need to learn these things via experience to execute with proper presentation
Tbh yeah, people just really care about learning as much as possible, instead of training for a single opponent
You dont study people's openings, you study openings
super GMs study opponent's past games
People dont just invent new openings nowadays, the start of the game happens like textbook
Whats that one quote
Play the opening like textbook, the middle game like a magician and the end game like a machine
As chess is finite, and the number of openings that actually work is also finite, most of openings is probably already created
Yeah, I hear some talk about GMs studying the past games of the GMs they're about to play against
they do though, they create novelties
not normal players of course, but super gms
I haven't played chess in a minute
I roasted by head with 100s of bullet games, and i quit it
At some point the game diverges but i dont think you would say thats the opening
sure
yes of coure
put your queen in the middle of the board after 4 moves and sacrifice it for a pawn
base64(companyid+publickey:privatekey)
Hey guys how this is suppose to look like in a function? The colon between public key and private key is throwing me off
That looks like syntax error
That's a documentation example
Source?
My ass
Is it like some kind of block chain 🤔
It no work
It’s from that ConnectWise site
(Just saying that's not meant to be runnable code -- it just tells you what you need to do)
Gun sound happened 2 stars
Proof?
I want to know if auth = id + publickey + privatekey matches up with that instruction
Jack ma 👀
Evidence?
Jack ma ballz 👍
It'd be... what, like --
from base64 import b64encode
def encode_authentication_credentials(company_id: str, public_key: str, private_key: str) -> str:
return b64encode(bytes(f"{company_id}{public_key}:{private_key}")).decode()
i would guess the + and : are literal characters you're meant to use
Oh
I didn't think the + would be literal
¯_(ツ)_/¯
Literally
Years ago I had to do this for.... I forgot
But they didn't want a +, they just wanted them concatenated
and b64encode takes bytes i thought
What's your ELO?
For rapid or blitz?
I did too but it says....
Nope I misread
It does
It'd be nice if they had an example request
So many packages dont have examples in their docs
Rapid
1400
👁️👁️ 😮
Confuse the opponent by opening with A4
Wait till you see the king's gambit
HOLY FUCK it worked!
The colon!
just read the docs next time
The manual
They were reading the docs 
I did! I showed the excerpt of it.
That damn colon
Idk why they wrote the docs like that
right, but 90% of the time you were just confused why it wasn't working, and asking us without giving us any information. the answer was in the docs the whole time
FYI, if you’re using something like requests they’ll have a auth parameter that takes (user, pass) so you don’t have to manually encode
What’s the function called?
src/darbiadev_sns/sns_services.py line 8
response = requests.get(url, auth=("account_number", "token")).json()```
In requests you just pass in auth=("user","pass") to .get, .post, etc, etc
Btw @young shoal I seriously didn’t understand how to incorporate this into a Python function because that’s not Python syntax.
Ahh
sure, but like 90% of your time debugging was not spent trying to figure out what it meant, rather asking random people who know nothing about the situation what the error meant
It's called "HTTP Basic auth"
It's older
Noone likes it because you have to transmit your creds in plaintext
It is basic auth
I'm aware, just saying that it's not really new
it's basic basic 😔
being stuck on this for weeks does suck though ¯_(ツ)_/¯
the solution was right in the docs all along...
(it's why people were saying to look at the docs)
who woulda thunked
Just like be authorised my guy
I had a 400 error response. Not 401.
just send a good request
What was the response body?
.http_status 400
how get dog?
🖕, aka, why dogs are better
this cat mean
You dont get dog
CompanyID not found. Something like that
.http_status dog 400
.http_status 401
what that dawg doin
that's what I said
maybe the api is just badly designed
Remember this?
What does connectwise even do
From their site it feels like some scam product
Well the encode_base64() function originally had no colon to begin with but It was able to encode the credentials successfully before the sandbox reset.
not really
Naw they're kinda shit, but they're a huge company
what was the issue?
Skill related
await never got await-ed if the log level wasn't high enough
oh
Was tearing my hair out
yeah I can see why that'd be confusing lol
How does logging make my program work?!!?
Companies use the website for their businesses such as sales management, employees submitting their timesheets and etc.
It's for a task that gets run maybe once every month or two, and it still worked, so I never spent much time on it
So, technially at least, I was "stuck on an issue" for months
Timesheets are such waste of my time ironically
maybe it's langdev time again
Everybody should read 48 Laws of Power
It teaches you how to deal with superiors

Do you need a book to tell you not to show up people?
Thats a pretty common sense thing
Show up people?
To behave in a way that embrassases someone youre with
Regardless of their position or yours
Never heard of robert greene btw
Apart from bullshit his way to best sellers what else has he done with his "power"
Well to show your strength that outweighs your superior could be embarrassing if it’s done in front of people but even without a crowd, you wouldn’t want to do that anyway.
Lmaooooo
Greene states that he does not try to follow all of his advice as, "Anybody who did would be a horrible ugly person to be around."
Does that mean if you follow none of it youre a terrific beautiful person to be around?
No
But who can execute 48 different laws? Which laws are superfluous and make others needless?
tech is generally a meritocracy. don't agree for the sake of avoiding conflict. advocate for your idea, but understand they have the final say
This is bad advice
why?
Well excuse me. For tech, I can’t comment. I was speaking in general.
mmm. I think it's nuanced and depends on situation
you're in tech though. and pretty much everyone else here
You can float when you think an idea is stupid pretty much anywhere
In the mob, nobody argues with the made men.
The mob was a part of the real world…
They have a hierarchical structure
are you in a mob bro
In the real world the "multi national corporations" make all the decisions on policy and who they want in change™️
No
yep. that's a sign of a good team dynamic
I was using the mob as an example of a hierarchical structure
why not use advice that is applicable to your situation only
I am.
Doesn’t matter what other hierarchal archetype I use as an example.
Could be a mob, military, this server. Almost all relationships are hierarchical.
You don’t argue with your superior
tech is generally a meritocracy. don't agree for the sake of avoiding conflict. advocate for your idea, but understand they have the final say
How and why do you struggle with this concept so much
Why are reading books about it then
I think expressing your opinions in a wrong way make you think like this
You're arguing with us though?
We are equal rank
so if you come up with a better idea, you're just going to not tell anyone?
Are we though 🤨
How do you know? I have far more years of experience than you
I’m specifically talking about the rankings on this server
No I wasn’t lol
You were saying one thing and godlygeek was saying another thing and those two things werent the same
Why didnt you just agree
That was not an argument. That was a debate.
Or with aboo
What is your meaning of "argue", what conversation would you label as "argue"
what's the difference between an argument and a debate
Not trying to get ahead on technicalities is probably one of the rules you should follow
Definition #2
Well well well, what you probably mean is a form of throwing tantrum
look at the verb definition
You cant have a formal discussion on an instant messaging app
Debates have sections where you get to lay out your argument and evidence uninterrupted
And moderators
Thats what formal debate is
Essentially
there are clearly levels of arguing
A moderator makes an authoritative decision. I’m not going to argue with them.
mfw i used to be part of debate club
When a mod speaks with position of authority, I’m not going to rebuttal
Why are you chatting to a mod anyway, thats not your assigned lunch table
your superior isn't a dictator at work though
Right?
it's a meritocracy
My interactions with aboo and godlygeek were never speaking to me with a position of authority. We were just having a conversation
But they have higher rank than you
huh?
This lunch table is assigned to all ranks
That’s how they set up the server. I don’t make the rules
He just mean by, putting a fight with "higher ranked people", as argue
This is cursed
Thank you

ok, but who would disagree with that
Well 😂
if you use more typical definitions of "argue", it becomes much more reasonable to argue with a superior
What he means goes out the window if we're gonna be using google's definitions
He skipped right over the definition of argue that he didnt like
are we really doing this again
Well yeah, same words different meaning in different scenarios
We are getting too focused on the semantics
Debate channel when? We need 24/7 debate
Youre the one that brought up semantics lmao
the semantics are the important part here... you're using a definition that isn't typical
unlike u debators u have sigma business to attend to
I think aboo should ban everyone involved in this channel today, right now
Speedrun life fr
I do this every morning
I want to see a hardcore debate about the minutia of life 24/7 365
I want this topic to move onto lobster hierarchy
Omg that reminds me so many animals implement the Crab interface
Fun fact, lobsters are so dominant that they kill themselves by requiring too much energy to molt into a bigger shell later in life
in a video game
Crab-like interface I should say
I hope i didnt trigger any mods with that fun fact but also im not sorry
Enjoy the fun fact
Class Lobster implements Crab-like
Just remember to add "in minecraft" at the end
Lmao
the small lobster is summoned by the bigger lobster and tells him to get into the shell so that he can fight off the big evil manta rays that come from high above
but the small lobster is small and weak, even if the shell is strong enough, he doesn't have the confidence to let anyone believe in him, however he does see the bigger lobster as a romantic interest, so he moves on anyways
They didn't kill themselves biology makes us all kill ourselves if you go into semantics far enough
IN A VIDEOGAME
💀🦞
but after he reaches the shell, he realises that the female lobster was sent by his dad
no?
and he's trying to get him to do things for him by dangling a romantic partner in front of hi
biology actively tries to stop you from dying of old age
"GET IN THE SHELL, SHINJI" yelled the dad lobster
I mean that the fact we have to die at all is like how the lobster dies eventually?
"OR THE CRAB WILL HAVE TO DO IT AGAIN"
Why biology not make things live forever 
huh no one here watched evangelion
The small beta lobster knows that fishermen have lower limits on what catch they can keep
The alpha lobster stands no chance, he'll be poached in butter shortly
it only gets weirder
"If only you knew how bad things really were"
that's nothing dude
the weird shit starts at episode 13
and the movie is just something else
Crab vs lobster who is more dominant
lobster evolves into crab
because lobster has tail which makes him weak
it says a lot about society
some men have tails and some don't, the men without tails are stronger
imma say crab coz crab got thousands of programmers behind him
what did I smoke today
There's fumes in your house 
😋
Keezy when was the last time you pet a cat
Can’t remember
Your kitten? 🥺
no
Maybe I should concede to every argument with a superior. Mars you made me rethink about this.
JBP said so though
but I did get dropped like that as a kid
How hierarchical is JBP
it's so cute 🥺
idk what that breed is called but it's so cute
only a sith deals in absolutes
They rethought it but came to the same conclusion?
looks similar to a British shorthair. But I'm not familiar with cat breeds
I never considered having a conversation with server superiors as arguments
I should yield to them
Don’t give any pushbacks
The tone set whether it's an argument or not
If they sound pissed off it's an argument
Oh ok that is what I initially thought as well
Because mars said I was arguing with them
I think before you form such opinions you should first go out for a walk
Find a cat to pet
And then you can think whatever
Or maybe meditate
No the cat step is important
Or any animal really
You also use this stuff?
Lmao
Curiosity runs deep
nice watermark
ifunny strikes again
fact: 90% of discord users stop arguing online right before their opponent admits they are wrong and changes their opinion
NOTHEYDON'T!!1!
Actually true
Keep on trucking, soldier
precisely
i cant post most of the memes i have here because they involve piss
usually graphic depictions of it
Pydis shadowbans you if your meme game is shit
Piss memes 
What in the
loud alert
pissimilated
The War of the Worlds 1897
Now these are the ethical questions i wanna talk about
this is the eddest meme ive ever seen
hey
edds an adjective, noted ✍️
calling me out in public
@high haven what's for lunch?
old meme. sorry try again
tip number 1: copy GPT generated answers into #python-discussion

this is the best i got rn
(((they))) dont want you to know this
the rest are off topic
quantum computing is like that actually
isnt bogo sort O(1) in a quantum oputer
meh. this is just a reskinnedd assumeSort
i kinda disagree, but it certainly doesn't help
problems are always nuanced
rex on copium
you literally shotgunned every type of model it looks like
im using a thing called mljar
yk Rex, my project would be perfect to learn about some ML
its one of thoese bayesian search thingies
hf psv
thor's hammer?
whats a hammer
hammering ur mum lol
🗿
hsp you always coming out of the woodwork to bring me down 
why tho
😔
real
dont bring this up. one of the etl jobs uses this instead of cron
i hate it

ah, here's one for you.
ohnly exp with systemd i have is shutting down apache and turning it back on
AI will take our jobs:
this is how i imagine rich ppl think
wait until the sheeple find out that salmon is actually dyed
not died*
fuck english
so majestic
ive also seen this one. sorry not much of a reaction from me
we have windows services in our stack 😔
on prem servers
also this
+1
technically...........
i saw a post like this earlier today lmao
i don't have much content on-topic tbh. much like AI jobs, the memes are also dull
@low chasm is this you
looking forward to be working with jurasdiction system || got a ticket for speeding and had to argue it in court ||
fornite
just a small kitten
it's so bad
you mean like
the ones you turn on and off
with a GUI?



