ot1-perplexing-regexing

[empty prism]

It's hard to understand how I don't understand it tbh lol, my dumb brain getting in its own way somehow

[glossy niche]

import asyncio

async def count():
    print("One")
    await asyncio.sleep(1)
    print("Two")

async def main():
    await asyncio.gather(count(), count(), count())

if __name__ == "__main__":
    import time
    s = time.perf_counter()
    asyncio.run(main())
    elapsed = time.perf_counter() - s
    print(f"{__name__} executed in {elapsed:0.2f} seconds.")

try running this on your own PC and you wil\l get it :)

stolen from realpython ofc

[empty prism]

Thank you, I'll try it out this evening

[zealous comet]

isn't everything depending on the dose

[tropic lichen]

the deepest innermost workings of asyncio scare me, but the basic idea of "awaiting something lets your event loop go off and run something else while waiting" is probably the shortest summary of it

[tulip falcon]

Shortest depending on how many terms you want to define

You could go into coroutines but not as concisely

[stiff siren]

i think the clocks went back an hour @glossy niche

[quasi blaze]

Can you imagine a battle rap being shared and it gets removed because it’s too offensive?

[spare oriole]

Eh, where have you seen that?

[quasi blaze]

I haven’t. I just imagined it.

https://tenor.com/view/kekw-kek-bttv-twitch-emote-gif-15123134

[spare oriole]

Then are you just saying stuff hoping to elicit responses?

[ruby fox]

https://tenor.com/view/waltergotme-gif-18867690

[quasi blaze]

No. I’m asking a binary question.

[jaunty wraith]

It is a chemical irritant and neurotoxin for mammals, including humans, and produces a sensation of burning in any tissue with which it comes into contact.

[quasi blaze]

Who makes up these off topic channel names?

[grave cove]

everyone

[quasi blaze]

I want to make one up please

[grave cove]

then make one

just make sure it's funny

[quasi blaze]

Humour is subjective

[grave cove]

true

i should clarify
make sure it's funny enough to the mods to get added to the rotation*

[quasi blaze]

Rotation?

Where can I see the rotation?

[grave cove]

we rotate off topic names every day

!otn

hm

!otn-names

i recall there being a command

[quasi blaze]

https://tenor.com/view/kanye-raise-award-well-never-know-oh-well-gif-5061742

[foggy jungle]

!otn a

wait. no I'm stupid.

[grave cove]

everyone laugh at this user for failing to use the bot properly

[low chasm]

they're added by staff, if somethings funny, we'll add one

[low chasm]

perms issue >.>

[quasi blaze]

I don’t endorse gambling

[grave cove]

[quasi blaze]

If you are a gambler, I think you should stop.

I suppose sports betting falls under that category.

[young shoal]

gamblers are only one more try before winning big on average

[quasi blaze]

People have lost their lives over gambling

[quasi blaze]

Or they could lose

That’s why I think it’s bad

[young shoal]

after they lose, they're due for a win. bet double the next time

[quasi blaze]

Crazy how some governments fund these casinos in their nations

Really goes to show you have high impulses

If you are a compulsive gambler

Impulsivity is not good

[solid elbow]

By "average" do you mean the arithmetic mean?

[uneven pine]

They just messed up an old joke

"fun fact, most gamblers quit right before their big win" paraphrase

[thick ore]

this fun fact inspires me to gamble my life savings 😃

[tulip falcon]

Monte Carlo

Rolled black 17 times in a row, keep betting double

Like when guy who invented chess wanted to be paid grains of rice doubled per square on the chess board

When you've already lost 10 times in a row your chance to lose this time is still the same as the first time

So I'm playin with a loaded deck

Writing an algorithm with techno music on in a cyberpunk blue room

[zealous comet]

my phone's charging port is broken so i'm going to get a new one do you all think that this one for morotola edge 20 pro would work https://nl.aliexpress.com/item/1005005795964038.html

[split heart]

Remind me to never join the colleges esports club it’s filled with toxic musty people that’ve never touched a blade of grass in their life and only have ever had a social life in Valorant

People literally got mad over tier lists and muted me when I suggested ideas and activities for the club

Jesus

[glossy niche]

?

[young shoal]

expected value 😩

[vale raven]

!off-topic-names

[royal lake]

Off-topic channels

There are three off-topic channels:
• #ot0-psvm’s-eternal-disapproval
• #ot1-perplexing-regexing
• #ot2-never-nester’s-nightmare

The channel names change every night at midnight UTC and are often fun meta references to jokes or conversations that happened on the server.

See our off-topic etiquette page for more guidance on how the channels should be used.

[quasi blaze]

I wonder who programmed it to rotate every midnight

[young shoal]

you can easily check

[quasi blaze]

Bagel sandwiches are actually really good. Can taste better than bread sandwiches if you’re eating tasteful bagel like four cheese

My bagel sandwich
Four cheese bagel
Two slices of bacon
Fried Potato crumbs
Lettuce
Tomato
Fried Egg
Sprinkle salt and pepper
Maple Syrup

[ruby fox]

Guys why do we have our own pasting website 🤔

We could just use pastebin right?

[grave cove]

That's what we're doing

We're just using our own paste bin

[ruby fox]

Nah, we have our own, that means, we are hosting it with money

[tulip falcon]

!paste

[royal lake]

Pasting large amounts of code

If your code is too long to fit in a codeblock in Discord, you can paste your code here:
https://paste.pythondiscord.com/

After pasting your code, save it by clicking the Paste! button in the bottom left, or by pressing CTRL + S. After doing that, you will be navigated to the new paste's page. Copy the URL and post it here so others can see it.

[ruby fox]

Well lol, why not the normal pastebin? Why we have to create our own?

[grave cove]

more control presumably

[tulip falcon]

I was checking if it redirected or something

[grave cove]

Better than being at the whim of someone else

[ruby fox]

Lol there is literally no problem using thiers lol

[grave cove]

What if we wanted to customize something?

Or they have an outage?

[tulip falcon]

Custom pastries

[jaunty wraith]

we do upstream most, if not all, of our changes to pinnwand (the software that powers our pastebin)

[grave cove]

Yeah, having our own hosted instance gives us a lot more flexibility

[ruby fox]

Like 🤔?

[jaunty wraith]

if the official instance goes down, we'd be affected too
so we host our own instance

[grave cove]

Having our logo on the pastebin

[tulip falcon]

User analytics

[jaunty wraith]

plus, || there's plenty available compute on the cluster ||

[grave cove]

the cluster must grow

[ruby fox]

Well lol, thanks for answering, I'm currently doing a presentation for the code jam

[vale raven]

https://github.com/python-discord/bot/blame/main/bot/exts/fun/off_topic_names.py

[distant hazel]

say hello to morning sunshine penny

cc @wintry skiff

[wintry skiff]

adorable

[vale raven]

@distant hazel have you considered a job in photography?

[distant hazel]

nah, this is just iphone's portrait mode working well

[quasi blaze]

This requires a lot of documentation reading

So many modules and decorators that I don’t understand

[tardy rain]

what a cutie

[distant hazel]

ikr

[vale raven]

Or.... you could.... just click on the button in my screenshot to see the full list of contributors
That answers your question

But if you want to understand the actual code, yeah, Discord.py is a bit much
#discord-bots could help explain pieces of it

[distant hazel]

our semi-daily routine is sitting in the driveway and watching the birds, squirrels, people, dogs and cars

[vale raven]

I wish I had time to do that

And like, there were actually squirrels and cars around

[distant hazel]

she's shifted my schedule to be a morning person lol

i live in such a quiet neighborhood it's quite nice

[vale raven]

If I try to sit down with my dog, she quite literally starts crying because she's so upset we're not walking anymore

[distant hazel]

aw, i can't wait to walk more with penny. she gets too excited and either zooms forward or in circles, or doesn't want to move from a spot she's sniffing

[jaunty wraith]

we demand zoomies

show zoomies

[vale raven]

Well that was dumb

[vale raven]

WAT

HECKS

[jaunty wraith]

[young shoal]

aboose

[jaunty wraith]

use an embeddable format smh

[vale raven]

It's what it gives me

[jaunty wraith]

put it through the churner

[vale raven]

Test

[tulip falcon]

Running human in their natural habitat

[jaunty wraith]

can barely see dog, 4/10

[tulip falcon]

🏃‍♂️

[vale raven]

I hate doing this
If I stay behind she pulls as hard as she can to be with everyone else
But if I get in front she trips over herself trying to look back

[tulip falcon]

Yes walking a dog is hard I never figured it out

[vale raven]

AHA!
Here is my crybaby!

[jaunty wraith]

dog too slow to qualify for zoomies NA/10

[wanton delta]

aww why she cryin

[vale raven]

More crybaby

[vale raven]

Because we're not moving

[wanton delta]

so eager

good dog

[distant hazel]

is that a kid jogging with perfect stride with adults lol

[vale raven]

@jaunty wraith

Moyen has a new picture

[vale raven]

Yeah

We're uh... Not athletic

[distant hazel]

idk he seems pretty athletic, how old is he?

[jaunty wraith]

…

[vale raven]

He'll be 4 in December, that was a few months ago

[jaunty wraith]

kid vs dog
who will win

[distant hazel]

yeah maybe it's a gratuitous clip but that is very impressive to me lol

he's 3!

[wanton delta]

dogs and sticks

[ruby fox]

Me

[jaunty wraith]

kid with steel vs dog with steel
who will win?

[distant hazel]

it's really difficult to capture crazy moments bc there's no time for phone

so the photos and videos i post online are definitely one-sided

[vale raven]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-dog-mad-dog-meme-dog-funny-dog-knife-gif-24039707

[jaunty wraith]

the solution is to use a gopro

[ruby fox]

Still me

[vale raven]

gopro like $300

[jaunty wraith]

did I stutter

[distant hazel]

are they that much?

oh yeah ig so

[vale raven]

Even more for the bigger ones

[vale raven]

oh hey
is this new?

@jaunty wraith where's your dog?

[young shoal]

no

[jaunty wraith]

never had one

[vale raven]

https://github.blog/changelog/2022-03-24-ignore-commits-in-the-blame-view-beta/

[jaunty wraith]

no

[vale raven]

2022

Relatively

[jaunty wraith]

1.5 years is ages ago

[vale raven]

How can you live like that??
Don't you want to know what it's like to be happy???

[jaunty wraith]

I live with my family and they don't want pets

[vale raven]

Do you?

[jaunty wraith]

apparently mom's family had a dog when she was a child, which is why she doesn't want us to have pets

[tulip falcon]

I mean everyone has pets die if that's what happened

[jaunty wraith]

ikr

[frozen coral]

Oh hey, I know that guy

[grave cove]

source?

[low chasm]

apparently my mom's family has had parrots for a couple generations

I'm totally getting a parrot when I'm older

[tardy rain]

dont

parrots are so much effort

[glossy niche]

parrots are a lot harder to take care of that ppl think

and they live LONg

[tardy rain]

theyre loud af, they smell

[low chasm]

I see

[glossy niche]

and demand a lot of attention

[tardy rain]

and yea they'll outlive you lmao

[low chasm]

but they're so cute

[tardy rain]

and also theyre very social, you need a pair or more

[low chasm]

my grandmother has like six lol

[tardy rain]

get a pigeon or something

[low chasm]

a couple of parrots and a few smaller lovebirds

[tardy rain]

they cute

[low chasm]

but they don't talk

[glossy niche]

get a cat or a bunny

easy to take care of

[low chasm]

cats are very based

[tardy rain]

you dont want talking parrots

[glossy niche]

doubles as a pillow

[low chasm]

peak pet

[tardy rain]

they wont shut up

[jaunty wraith]

cat

[glossy niche]

dogs fking suck i hate them so much

[tardy rain]

unbased and cringe opinion

[glossy niche]

i hate things that are loud

[low chasm]

my grandmother's old parrot, which has since died, had like, a nicotine addiction

[glossy niche]

not to mention, they scare the cats >:(

[low chasm]

dogs aren't bad, cats are just better

[young shoal]

bro was addicted to nic

[jaunty wraith]

sounds like an anecdotal bad experience

[glossy niche]

it is

[low chasm]

my grandfather used to eat this thing called paan with tobacco in it, and he'd feed it to the parrot

[glossy niche]

but i guess thats what opinions are about

[low chasm]

and the parrot started asking for it like, daily

[ruby fox]

https://tenor.com/view/addict-addicted-drugs-help-me-drugs-are-bad-gif-13989033

[tardy rain]

i have an uncle that had 2 grey macaws and one cool original flavour

whenever you visited you left with a headache

mfs were so loud

[jaunty wraith]

flavour?

[glossy niche]

my brother got his parrot a wife and he proceeded to fking beat her :((((

[low chasm]

bunnies get pretty smelly too, yeah?

[low chasm]

eh?

[tardy rain]

the blue one idk what its called

[glossy niche]

we literally had to separate them

[tardy rain]

.wiki blue parrot

[median dome]

Wikipedia Search Results

Blue parrot
Blue parrot or Blue Parrot may refer to: Bird: Blue-backed parrot, a parrot endemic to the Philippines, Sulawesi and nearby islands in Indonesia Blue-bellied

Dead Parrot sketch
Monty Python's Flying Circus about a non-existent species of parrot, called a "Norwegian Blue". A satire on poor customer service, it was written by John

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[tardy rain]

lmaooooo

[glossy niche]

birds apparently get aggressive??????????????????????????????????????

[ruby fox]

Wait, macaw has an original flavour? How do you know thier taste 🤨

[low chasm]

my grandmother got a couple of bunnies, but had to give them away since they got smelly

[tardy rain]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyacinth_macaw
i think it was one of these guys

[glossy niche]

ifu want a bird, parakeets r nice and cute, and not loud

[low chasm]

they were super cute though

if you pat their heads, they'd go to sleep

[glossy niche]

yeah bunnies have a stink problem 😭

they pee everyWHERE

[low chasm]

I'll get a cat 😤

I'm slightly allergic though

but it's whatever, I'll cope

[jaunty wraith]

aboocat

[young shoal]

bruh

[tardy rain]

there are hypoallergenic cats

[low chasm]

hmm

[glossy niche]

i remember one time my a hole neighbours kid decided to break into my backyard to try and steal my bunny

i saw him and told him, and proceeded to take my bunny away, then the bunny FKING PEED ON ME

[low chasm]

apparently siamese cats are hypoallergenic

[jaunty wraith]

https://tenor.com/view/bingus-gif-18888188

[glossy niche]

after that he decided he didnt want a bunny for some reason

i womder why

[low chasm]

one of my dad's friends had a persian cat

[glossy niche]

the bingus species is actually based, you dont have to clean their fur

[low chasm]

it was fluffy, but didn't do much of anything

[glossy niche]

i also heard from friends taht they r actualyl really soft

[tardy rain]

flat faced cats bad

same with dogs

[jaunty wraith]

sure

[glossy niche]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-turkey-savannah-birthday-happy-turkey-day-gif-15680525

why cant i have one as a pet smh

[low chasm]

apparently hypoallergenic cats aren't completely hypoallergenic 😔

perhaps there's medication I can use

[jaunty wraith]

or get a dog

they're honorary cats

[low chasm]

❌

[ruby fox]

Get a ancient common predecessor of cats and dogs 👍

[tardy rain]

get a lizard

[grave cove]

bingus

[ruby fox]

Crocodile?

[tardy rain]

they need a tank and a light

but thats about it

unless youre too grossed out to feed them insects

[wanton delta]

Arent reptiles high maintainance

[low chasm]

like snakes?

[jaunty wraith]

get a plant

[low chasm]

I assumed the opposite

[tardy rain]

geckos are pretty entry level

[wanton delta]

Yea

[low chasm]

hmm

[ruby fox]

Get a pet dragonfly

It's cool to see them fly

[vale raven]

Excuse you

[low chasm]

they seem fairly low maintenance, at least

[jaunty wraith]

great idea

[wanton delta]

Cold area, hot area, humidity yada2 idk some of them are more high maintainance than me

[low chasm]

I see

[jaunty wraith]

we can use them as a mascot

[ruby fox]

I had a pet dragonfly lol

[wanton delta]

How do you keep it from flying away

[ruby fox]

Well you need to train them ofc

[tardy rain]

a food source

why would it leave?

[grave cove]

i want a bunny

[wanton delta]

How tf do you train a dragonfly

Do they even live long enough to survive the training period

[grave cove]

🥺

https://tenor.com/view/xiao-zhan-bunny-gif-25305187

their little nose 🥺🥺🥺

[ruby fox]

Lol if you train them with food, they will hang around

[wanton delta]

Based

[ruby fox]

And you would need a insect box, a bigger one

[wanton delta]

Ooh u had a box

[glossy niche]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1025394402228707348/1130189903389524089/video_2023-07-16_20-27-51.mp4

[jaunty wraith]

ask chris

[grave cove]

Chris has very cute bunnies

[glossy niche]

if you get 2 bunnies you will end up with 30 within 2 months

[tardy rain]

get 2 females

...unless

is there a bunny god

[glossy niche]

my friend bought 2 bunnies and ended up with 24 shortly after

[wanton delta]

They'll find a way

[ruby fox]

My grandfather had lots of bunnies lol

[glossy niche]

he kept them on the roof of his house (roofs here are flat and have fences around them so you dont fall off)

and then an eagle ate them

[low chasm]

my grandmother bought two bunnies, but they were babies

[glossy niche]

😃

[low chasm]

and then gave them away cuz of the smell

[ruby fox]

Typical bunny problem

[tardy rain]

bunnies are farm animals, you dont want them in an apartment

[grave cove]

bunny zeus 💀

[low chasm]

beus

[ruby fox]

My grandfather had like a large free area, so he grew goose, bunnies, pigeons and many more

[low chasm]

neat

[glossy niche]

dogs aslo require a lot of space, if you get a dog, you will need to walk them often, this is harder if you dont have a backyard or sth

[jaunty wraith]

or just zeus

[grave cove]

🤨🤨🤨

that's illegal

[jaunty wraith]

have you learned anything about greek mythology?

[wanton delta]

But zeus is god of gods

I think

[jaunty wraith]

because a lot of stories start with zeus

[ruby fox]

Ah yes Zeus, your friendly neighborhood offender

I can't say what offender though

[tardy rain]

Its ok cause he turns into an animal

Or he does the animal

[jaunty wraith]

sometimes, he doesn't

[tardy rain]

Either way animals are involved

[ruby fox]

Hell naw, what he have done

[wanton delta]

Sometimes

[ruby fox]

Most normal day in Zeus's routine

[tardy rain]

The one true pick up artist

[jaunty wraith]

…

[wanton delta]

Is that how centaurs came to be

[ruby fox]

More like *** offender

[grave cove]

[glossy niche]

theres honestly a lot of overlap between the 2

[tardy rain]

The centaurs were usually said to have been born of Ixion and Nephele.[6] As the story goes, Nephele was a cloud made into the likeness of Hera in a plot to trick Ixion into revealing his lust for Hera to Zeus. Ixion seduced Nephele and from that relationship centaurs were created.
What in the fuck

[jaunty wraith]

wild

[ruby fox]

Cannon story 👍

[wanton delta]

💀

[tardy rain]

Guy does cloud and out come horse man hybrids

[glossy niche]

did greeks belibe this stuff or did we dig up someones fan fic and just assume it was a belief

[ruby fox]

The guy who came up with this story is the best pickup artist

[tardy rain]

Big if tru

[ruby fox]

It's cannon lol

[sinful solar]

new head cannon

[glossy niche]

greek mythology is just like baki

woah

[sinful solar]

explosion noises

[wanton delta]

I prefer the latter

[ruby fox]

Try not to get banned challenge 👍

[wanton delta]

Id rather it be made up shiz by some drunkard high on whatever was trending at that time

[ruby fox]

Are horses #### content huh

[grave cove]

greek lore thickens

[wanton delta]

Bet a lot of things were fair game at the time
😨

[ruby fox]

Try not to seduce challenge 🔥

Nvm i can't believe those people who say that older times were great

[glossy niche]

HUH

CHAT IS THIS REAL

[jaunty wraith]

sanpchat

[glossy niche]

never used slapscat before

[jaunty wraith]

this reminds me of that population map xkcd

[ruby fox]

Yeah lol this is real

[grave cove]

what on earth is wechat

[jaunty wraith]

.xkcd 1138

[median dome]

XKCD comic #1138

There are also a lot of global versions of this map showing traffic to English-language websites which are indistinguishable from maps of the location of internet users who are native English speakers.

2012/11/23 - #1138, 'Heatmap'

[glossy niche]

chinese everything app that does payments, instant messaging, etc

[glossy niche]

yeah i guess that makes sense

[grave cove]

🗿

[jaunty wraith]

the chart is basically inversely proportional to the growth of internet users worldwide

[glossy niche]

i hope threads dies fast that would be funny

i think

[jaunty wraith]

it doesn't tell you anything about the quality of any of those platforms

(they're all garbage)

[distant hazel]

new daycare place and she's having fun

[jaunty wraith]

caught while zooming

[distant hazel]

yup

[grave cove]

omg the ears on the left picture

[tulip falcon]

Straight jumping off the table

[rough sapphire]

dogs don't like me, they bark at me every time they see me

some of them are even scared

idk why

[gritty zinc]

what's an example of a function, let's say on [0, ∞], that's roughly exponential at the start but approaches linearity afterwards?

hmm, I think ln((1+exp(x))/2) would do

wait, no, that's not really... hmm.

[tulip falcon]

Maybe your energy?

[young shoal]

e^x when x<10, x otherwise

[gritty zinc]

forgot to mention, should be monotonic and continous

I basically want a hybrid of np.geomspace (at the start) and np.linspace (at most of the interval)

[tranquil orchid]

Linkedin is kinda nice, it's like social media but you just see cool stuff companies are up to 👀

[tardy rain]

companies are never up to anything cool

[crystal spruce]

you could interpolate between an exponential and a linear function

[solemn tulip]

x e^(x/(x+a) - 1) is a fun function

[hexed sierra]

how simple do you want it? e^-x -x is already pretty good

.wa s plot 20e^(-x/2) - x from x = 0 to x = 20

[median dome]

Wolfram Alpha

Failed to get response.

[tulip falcon]

Not for its users

It's uncool, and highlights the problems of non-FOSS software

Anything that happens is at a whim of companies

[glossy niche]

https://x.com/saltyAom/status/1702473240206275055

SaltyAom (@saltyAom)

If I get to speak about Elysia at JSConf Asia, I’ll literally cosplay Elysia to speak.

Twitter · Sep 15, 2023, 12:03 AM

this is why elysia is the best framework

BETH stack ftw

[thick ore]

bun getting so much love while it doesn't even work well on Windows 😔

[glossy niche]

good

btw ive heard ppl running it via WSL successfully so i guess you can use that?

im a filthy windows user as well so ia ctually havent tried it yet lol

[ruby fox]

What? no windows support??

[thick ore]

kinda windows support

it works bad

[glossy niche]

it also uses zig, which hasnt reached version 1.0

funnily enough, bun has VC money in it

but the dev team seem like sensible ppl so i hope they dont chase the bag too hard

[thick ore]

Bun provides a limited, experimental native build for Windows. At the moment, only the Bun runtime is supported.

bun <file>
bun run <file>

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[rough sapphire]

nah i don't think bun will replace anything fr

[uneven pine]

What is bun

It's impossible to Google that name

Oh man

The shipping estimate says it'll get here on the start of my work week

Yikes

[ruby fox]

It's like nodejs, but better 🤔

[uneven pine]

Oh it's javashit crap?

[glossy niche]

node JS compaitible, but with some tools built in for convinience

[harsh tundra]

Ah, shipping... It's like printers, smells that you're in a hurry

[glossy niche]

the big thing about it is that its node API compaitible for the most part, but a lot faster

[ruby fox]

They have thier own religion lol

[glossy niche]

so for some, its a drop in replacement for faster performance

[ruby fox]

It's blazing fast than other existing ones lol

[uneven pine]

Shipping a high demand low volume item from china

[glossy niche]

blazingly faster!!!!!!!111!!!

[uneven pine]

Shipping alone was $57 US

[plush sun]

🚀

[uneven pine]

Anyone to willing use JavaScript for backend is no friend of mine

[glossy niche]

[ruby fox]

(not me lol)

[glossy niche]

JS for backend is pretty nice if its next JS or a similar framework

simplifies work a lot

[harsh tundra]

Omg 😮

[glossy niche]

but if its just a rest API, its probably not as good as its competitors

[ruby fox]

I forgot the youtuber's name, he explained how bun is better than others lol

[glossy niche]

lots of ytubers did just that but JS ytbers have goldfish memory

a lot of them have techbro syndrome

[ruby fox]

Real lol

[glossy niche]

like 80% of their content is nice and then they go off and start dropping weird takes that you usually only see in second year CS classes

[uneven pine]

Yeah.. kinda sucked but what's 60 extra on a 280 dollar order tbh

It's all credit card debt

🤣

[harsh tundra]

I buy from the US mainly when there are any promos, two times the promo code basically only offset the shipping costs... And then customs and vat on entry...

[edgy ember]

hello

hay

[uneven pine]

Well niche hobby items are rarely US based I've found

[edgy ember]

.

,

[plush sun]

;

[low chasm]

are you trying to get voice verified?

if so, please don't spam - if you spam to meet the requirements, you'll be voice muted.

contribute meaningfully, you'll get there.

[edgy ember]

ok i will contribute meaningfully

[edgy ember]

hello sir, are you a moderator?

[grave cove]

it appears as if so

[low chasm]

.8ball am I a moderator

[median dome]

Signs point to yes

[low chasm]

you heard em

[jaunty wraith]

.8ball is aboo a good moderator?

[median dome]

You may rely on it

[jaunty wraith]

it has spoken

[vale raven]

Very non-committal

Is he good?
He's....... reliable

[uneven pine]

That's not how that should be read

That's "you may rely on the fact he is a good moderator"

[solemn tulip]

snuday?

[young shoal]

not quite

[eternal depot]

.8ball is shananigans a doggo?

[median dome]

Yes

[eternal depot]

.8ball is shenanigans a good doggo?

[median dome]

Signs point to yes

[solemn tulip]

.8ball is shananigans a catto?

[median dome]

Concentrate and ask again

[solemn tulip]

.8ball is shananigans a fuckin cat?

[median dome]

It is decidedly so

[solemn tulip]

ok then

[young shoal]

sheesh

[eternal depot]

@vale raven it is confirmed you are a cat dog

[vale raven]

It's also confirmed that you eat octopus

Spitting out random heckery is ezpz

[eternal depot]

Also your mother was a hamster. And your father smelt of elderberry

[grave cove]

lol

[harsh tundra]

Octopus is actually good

[vale raven]

there’s something wrong with you

It’s too chewy!!

[harsh tundra]

Depends on how you do it, I guess. 🤷 I generally don't eat seafood (not my taste), but my partner cooks and sometimes uses mixed seafood and there's octopus there

[tardy rain]

If octopus is chewy you overcooked it

Same with calamari

My grandma used to make this wine braised octopus dish, its so good

[rough sapphire]

https://i.redd.it/ye8wv86w0hob1.png

Aged like wine

[quasi blaze]

I’m reminiscing about the golden days of me playing San Andreas Roleplay. They had an official Ventrilo server and my gang had our own gang channel in it. I kicked a General Admin out of our channel because I didnt want him in it. His ego got hurt so he temporarily banned me.

Good times https://youtu.be/QSw5MtCaMnU?si=Lzz7PMVWfNS2J1Eo

[tardy rain]

Youre roleplaying as a gang member and you "disrespected" one of the seniors

Sounds on-brand

[quasi blaze]

I never claimed this was me lol

[tardy rain]

I’m reminiscing about the golden days of me playing San Andreas Roleplay. They had an official Ventrilo server and my gang had our own gang channel in it. I kicked a General Admin out of our channel because I didnt want him in it. His ego got hurt so he temporarily banned me.

That sounds like its you

[quasi blaze]

Ohhh I thought you were talking about the video. Reply next time lol

[reef goblet]

But what if I do eat octopi??!

[vale raven]

You must have a big jaw from all that chewing

[reef goblet]

I love octopus balls

[quasi blaze]

Cancel Culture is basically collective sadism; a collection of people virtually getting together to find dirt on somebody of what they did in the past. It’s disgusting.

They are really obsessed with harming people’s reputation.

[spare oriole]

I kicked a General Admin out of our channel because I didnt want him in it.
that's literally cancel culture

[vale raven]

"general admin"

"general + admin"? Like the S1 got a promotion?

Or "generic admin"?

What would a "specialized admin" look like?

[quasi blaze]

In the official roleplaying ventrilo server, the following ranks of administrators are: junior , general , senior , head and executive.

[vale raven]

Can I be an executive?

[spare oriole]

you think cancel culture is disgusting yet you're also a part of it, can't have it both ways

[quasi blaze]

I’m talking about something that happened in the past tense. That server is no more.

[vale raven]

Where'd it go?

[quasi blaze]

Kicking someone out of my channel because I don’t want them there is cancel culture?

[quasi blaze]

Apparently, the roleplaying server got revived this year I think

[vale raven]

"Why did it get canceled?"*

[spare oriole]

in which someone is thrust out of social or professional circles – whether it be online, on social media, or in person.
sure fits the bill to me

[quasi blaze]

Cancel Culture is a manifestation of collective sadism. They simply attempt to cancel people out of pleasure and think they hold a higher moral ground than the people who are trying to cancel people. I kicked the admin out of the channel because I didn’t like him.

[spare oriole]

sounds like you're adapting the meaning of what cancel culture means to something that you want it to mean to fit your purposes

[quasi blaze]

I’m not publicly defaming the admin’s character in anyway by kicking him out of the channel.

[vale raven]

Okay, I'm sorry, but I'm going to have to cancel you
Using BING is COMPLETELY UNACCEPTABLE

[spare oriole]

you don't need to defame someone in order to cancel them

[quasi blaze]

But that’s also a symptom of cancel culture

[spare oriole]

no, that's a sympton of trash human beings if they're in reality defaming,

but you dont need to defame people in order to cancel them

in fact most "cancel" culture i've seen has been without defaming

the few times i've seen someone defame in order to cancel, it turned out to be a lie (which is defamation) or simply someone who didn't have all the facts

[quasi blaze]

You bring up a fair argument that the admin I kicked is ostracism which is what Cancel Culture creates. But my motives of kicking him out my channel were completely different.

[spare oriole]

it sounds like "cancel culture" was just a "sympton" of you disliking that person

your words.

[quasi blaze]

By that logic. Anybody who dislikes somebody creates cancel culture.

[spare oriole]

no, you took actions to ostracize them from your surroundings, you kicked them out of your server, that was the cancel culture in your actions

[quasi blaze]

First of all, A user can’t kick an admin out of a server lol. I kicked him out of my channel.

[spare oriole]

okay, that doesn't change much

[quasi blaze]

No clue

[carmine bane]

[spare oriole]

that's like, not much better than calling them dumb

[young shoal]

or they are all substantially more intelligent than everyone else

[spare oriole]

which in turn is calling everyone else dumb

[young shoal]

I mean, not really

[undone thorn]

based

maybe they all have similar areas of expertise :%)

[wanton delta]

We will sound dumb anyway at some point so better do it now

[small coral]

how many tries does it take maximum to solve a random number generator of numbers between 1 and 1000 using the cut in half kinda thing

because it seems like it only takes a maximum of 10 tries

[primal herald]

It should be ceil(log2(1000)) = 10

[crystal spruce]

i think that depends slightly on your implementation of binary search?

because when you compare you partition it into 3 sections not 2 since you can exclude the element you're comparing against from subsequent searches

[glossy niche]

I think that the ceil handles that

if you have an odd sized array, you end up with a half when dividing the size by 2

oh wait, that would néed a floor not a ceil

[solemn tulip]

not really, that interpretation usually comes from thinking in inclusive-inclusive intervals

if you're looking for the transition from true to false in the predicate you have an interval [l, r) where pred(l) = true and pred(r) = false, if you look at the midpoint pred(mid) you'll find that the new interval is either [l, mid) or [mid, r)

[crystal spruce]

yeah but that's implementing it as

if num < arr[middle]:
    r = middle - 1
else:
    l = middle

isn't it?

[solemn tulip]

r = middle
l = middle

no -1

[crystal spruce]

why no -1?

[solemn tulip]

l is the largest known value with the predicate being true, r is the smallest known value with the predicate being false

so if pred(middle) = true it's the new largest known true, if false the new smallest knowm false

the beauty of phrasing in terms of inclusive-exclusice

[crystal spruce]

[solemn tulip]

and you would continue searching while r - l > 1

and when you finish you have an l and r that straddle the transition true→false

[hexed sierra]

i also have to pithink this one

[ruby fox]

🤔

[solemn tulip]

def bs(l, r, pred):
  """
  Precondition:
    pred(l) == True
    pred(r) == False
  """
  while r - l > 1:
    mid = (l + r)//2
    if pred(mid):
      l = mid
    else:
      r = mid
  return l, r

[ruby fox]

Whats this binary search lol?

[hexed sierra]

this is ignoring trichotomy though

[ruby fox]

What's trichotomy?

[solemn tulip]

usage like

bs(0, len(arr), lambda i: arr[i] < value)

for search in sorted array

[ruby fox]

Hmm, what does it actually do?

[hexed sierra]

... search in a sorted array 😛

[ruby fox]

Well lol "in" operator is looking tasty rn

[hexed sierra]

since the array is sorted, you know that if you compare an element in the array and it doesn't satisfy a condition, all the elements before or after it also don't satisfy the condition

[ruby fox]

If we are talking about algorithms then 🤔

[solemn tulip]

in is O(n) on a list

[ruby fox]

If you want a fast way to find a element in sorted array 🤔 maybe use a datastructure

Binary tree? 🤔

[solemn tulip]

a sorted array is a data structure 🥴

why build a binary tree?

wasted effort if you have a sorted list

[hexed sierra]

binary search is equivalent to building a binary tree anyway

[solemn tulip]

other than having to build the tree

[ruby fox]

Yeah both are O(logn)

[hexed sierra]

you build it as you split into left and right. that's the same as deciding the branches and also automatically going down a branch

it's equivalent

[glossy niche]

it's a binary search tree so it's basically a treeless binary search tree yeah

[ruby fox]

Maybe a hashmap?

[hexed sierra]

this ignores that the list is already sorted

[glossy niche]

what is the problem here?

[solemn tulip]

it's equivalent sure, it's an implicit data structure

[hexed sierra]

the original point was stickie saying that, due to trichotomy, in special cases, binary search can be a little faster than ceil(log2(N))

[solemn tulip]

trichotomy would usually require more than one check, no?

[hexed sierra]

it would

[solemn tulip]

so you lose a factor of two

[ruby fox]

Then what's stopping us from "n" partitions?

[hexed sierra]

what do you mean?

[solemn tulip]

unless you have more rich comparisons, e.g. returning -1, 0, 1

[glossy niche]

I remember implementating bs for an interactive problem at an acm icpc style.contest and it it took precisely ceil(log2(n)) to find an element as a worst case

[ruby fox]

Trichotomy is 3 partions, if we have a log(length) partitions 🤔

[glossy niche]

like the judge would fail my submission if I did one query too many

[hexed sierra]

trichotomy of natural/real numbers. two natural numbers satisfy exactly one of a<b, a>b, or a=b

[ruby fox]

I just came up with random

[hexed sierra]

the argument being that you can discard one extra element at some comparisons in the binary search

[graceful basin]

Python has a bisect module that implements bs in most useful shapes

[solemn tulip]

saving one iteration doesn't help much if every iteration is double as expensive 🥴

[hexed sierra]

the transistors in my computer have 3 states

[ruby fox]

Huh, shouldn't it be 2?

[solemn tulip]

bisect requires you to work on some sequence iirc

[hexed sierra]

i spice my serious discussions with a healthy amount of shitposting

[crystal spruce]

well cereal's question was "how many tries"

[ruby fox]

Lol

[crystal spruce]

not "how many comparisons"

[graceful basin]

Ye, but you can magic it into existence with some class and a custom getitem

[solemn tulip]

binary search is much more general than that

[solemn tulip]

define what a try is and we can say better

[graceful basin]

But ye, there are cases where you need even different binary search

Than what bisect can do

[solemn tulip]

what info do you get out?

[hexed sierra]

define define

[ruby fox]

Try and comparison is same in this case, as they tell about the number of loops we are doing

[solemn tulip]

the result of the comparison matters

[ruby fox]

A loop will contain 2 comparisons, and one try

[crystal spruce]

I'm assuming he was asking "a random number from 1 to 1000 is generated, and you can guess the number and either get it correct, or be told if the number is less than or greater than your guess, how many tries is needed at maximum"

[solemn tulip]

that gives you richer info than just a true/false yeah, in which case you can so slightly fewer queries

[ruby fox]

Well, 🤔 maximum means decrementing or incrementing one until you reach the target

And the first choice would be either ends

[crystal spruce]

no like how many tries do you need in the worst case scenario if you're playing optimally

[solemn tulip]

if you allow me do two arbitrary comparisons in one loop iteration I can do even better, that's why I'm saying that specifying the queries you can make matters

[ruby fox]

If the 1-1000 is imagined as a sorted array, binary search should give the same number of tries however we do it🤔

[solemn tulip]

again, depends on what the query you can make is

[ruby fox]

Maybe we should actually test it out lol

[solemn tulip]

if you get <, == or > as a result of one query you can do slightly more

if you only get < or >= you can't

[ruby fox]

🤔

[solemn tulip]

and you have the pretty generic binary seach code I shared

[ruby fox]

I actually feel like, if the sorted array is 1-1000, we can find the target number in 2 tries

First try gives the distance between the target and our assumption

Second try, we increment or decrement the assumption by the distance

[solemn tulip]

again...the query you can make matters

[hexed sierra]

you can't if you don't know how the numbers were generated

the only way to compute the distance in this case would be to test all elements of the list

[ruby fox]

Yeah, but like I said, if it's 1-1000 integers

[hexed sierra]

yes, but which integers?

[ruby fox]

1,2,3,4,....1000

[hexed sierra]

then the problem is trivial, you already know the list

there is no need to compare anything, you already know the indices

you need 0 checks

[ruby fox]

Yeah lol

[hexed sierra]

we don't care about the trivial case

[ruby fox]

But random numbers 🤔

[hexed sierra]

"arbitrary" is a better word than "random" here

[ruby fox]

Yeah you are right

Or can we use properties of the target number?

Like 🤔 0 has some properties

Still it's bad ig

Idk why, but if we can make like a complete graph of nodes of the elements, we can find the number in two tries maybe ¯_(ツ)_/¯

Like a mesh network

Each node is connected by all other nodes, so we can find any number of it exists

[hexed sierra]

it's great to see you have interest in these problems and a creative mind. i would encourage you to try out a book on data structures and algorithms

[solemn tulip]

you can always try to stuff things into some data structure, but building such a data structure isn't free

[ruby fox]

Thanks

[ruby fox]

Yes, but each node we add will only take O(1)

[solemn tulip]

putting your elements in a set would allow super cheap membership checks, but costs you O(n) up front

[hexed sierra]

there are at least N nodes though, so it's actually O(N)

[ruby fox]

Hmm, how much time will it take to create our array?

[ruby fox]

Yeah

[hexed sierra]

in the current problem, you already receive a sorted list. there is no cost to that

if you want to change it into anything else, you incur a cost

[ruby fox]

We would need to find a way of accessing the elements, like we were able to make binary search without making the actual tree

Would it be actually possible 🤔

[hexed sierra]

as i said earlier, the two things are equivalent

binary search is equivalent to building traversing a binary tree

they have the same cost

[solemn tulip]

not building

traversing

[ruby fox]

Yes, but building a binary tree is different

1. Build tree
2. Search tree

[hexed sierra]

building a tree will make it slower necessary

you can actually do the two things at the same time tbh

[ruby fox]

Here, in binary search, we are able to traverse a non existent tree

[hexed sierra]

at best it'll be the same complexity, at worst it'll be slower

[ruby fox]

My take is, is it possible to traverse a non existent complete graph?

[hexed sierra]

that sounds like the travelling salesman problem

[solemn tulip]

sure you could, would it help?

[ruby fox]

Each element in a complete graph knows all of its neighbours

[ruby fox]

What is that?

[hexed sierra]

a very difficult problem there is no good solution for

[solemn tulip]

just checking all neighbors would be expensive

you have O(n) neighbors

[ruby fox]

Maybe I'm mixing hashmap and graph theory lol

Using hashmap to access the Neighbors

In a graph

[solemn tulip]

that would require constructing a hashmap

[ruby fox]

Yeah, I'm just trying to find if we can do it, without constructing anything

Like in binary search

[solemn tulip]

the binary search works because of a property of the array, that it is sorted

[ruby fox]

Maybe because binary tree has a logic of "left elements < middle element< right element"

[solemn tulip]

that's kinda the only useful property we really have

[ruby fox]

Binary search with linear probing 🤔 nvm lol I'm thinking of imaginary stuff

Ig, we only get 3 types of comparison in our number system

,<,==

What if we used principle of radix sort?

Like if the target is 34

We can skip numbers with 2,4 in tens place

[solemn tulip]

that's effectively doing several binary searches

first you binary search to get the range of numbers with the correct leading digit, then binary search the second digit

[glossy niche]

sorting isnt actually necessaary, it just has to be partitioned around that element

you can also use it on a non sorted array to find a "hill"

or an element larger than its 2 neighbours

its kind of trippy but it works

[quasi blaze]

What do you guys think the maximum percentage of income people should spend on their hobbies?

[young shoal]

100%

[tranquil orchid]

I mean that depends on your situation really, I'm a student who doesn't have many responsibilities, all I really spend money on is car things, food, random stuff I want to buy, and hobby stuff

At the moment hobby stuff probably makes up around 50% of my weekly spending 👀 (which is only about maybe 20-30% of my weekly income, I tend to just shove >=25% in savings)

Bouldering do be expensive

[glossy niche]

i think it depends on both your situation and the situation of the people around you

[harsh tundra]

Well, in ideal world everyone would be able to live comfortably, so the money earled would be spent on doing what you want. So max would really be 100%.

[glossy niche]

technosocialism when

https://tenor.com/view/mr-bean-waiting-still-waiting-gif-13052487

[harsh tundra]

It's sad that all this automation etc in the world is used to pad the pockets of wealthy, instead of making the world easier for everyone :c

[glossy niche]

this realisation is actually what initially got me into politics

i was looking at things like chatGPT with fear of technological unemployment

and then it dawned on me:

"I fucking hate javascript just take my job already"

[tranquil orchid]

Frontend web dev moment

[young shoal]

get a cooler job fr

[glossy niche]

recently ive been going backend so thats nice

FP shilling o'clock

https://lexi-lambda.github.io/blog/2019/11/05/parse-don-t-validate/ really like this blog post or essay or whatever

tl;dr: instead of putting guards everywhere for validation, parse your data into a datastructure that cannot possibly represent an invalid state, this means that you can be 100% sure at any given moment that a certain object is valid, its kind of like pydantic but a little more general

[harsh tundra]

I think my phone's settings "app" got fucked up. Battery settings show this.

[quasi blaze]

Will a GET request response be 400 if there’s literally no data to grab on the server?

[glossy niche]

wouldnt that be a 404 instead?

400 indicates that your response is not correctly formed

so either a 404 or a 5xx if the server is supposed to have content but doesnt for some reason

i imagine a 503 would be correct here if its supposed to have data but doesnt atm

[quasi blaze]

No there’s no data at all in the sandbox

But I was still sending GET requests

To see if my keys would work

[solemn tulip]

400 Bad Request
The server cannot or will not process the request due to an apparent client error

which does not seem like your case at all

eben something weird like 501 might be apt for this weird scenario

[quasi blaze]

Damn I should have tried a POST request instead after all this time since the sandbox is empty

Maybe not.

[solemn tulip]

if the request doesn't make sense, at least return some error

if it makes complete sense that the request is empty, then maybe it's fine

[hallow frigate]

Shopping for food and saw this:

"wild caught" "this product comes from a fishery"

[harsh tundra]

Endpoint doesn't exist: 404
Endpoint exists but data is empty: 204.
Endpoint exists but data is "empty" (e.g. empty list, empty dictionary, dictionary with "data" key that is null/empty list): 200

[young shoal]

are you still guessing at what requests to do?

[harsh tundra]

By no endpoint it can mean like /something/123 where the endpoint is /something/<id> but 123 doesn't exist

[young shoal]

404 for that is kinda weird though

[harsh tundra]

Why? That particular resource doesn't exist then

404 is specifically for resource (e.g. page) not found. But wrong endpoint, server going "idk what you mean with this url" is generalisation

[young shoal]

meh. i guess

[quasi blaze]

I’m trying to guess what the possible outcomes for why the response is 400.

All I literally did was change keys. Everything else is the same.

[solemn tulip]

maybe your request is actually malformed, who knows

or whatever you're querying are returning bad status codes

[tardy rain]

We'll never know

[young shoal]

there is literally no way to guess the correct answer

[solemn tulip]

||if only we had all the info||

[tardy rain]

You either know or you dont

At this point just email support

[quasi blaze]

That’s what I did. They didn’t get back to me yesterday. I’m quite annoyed.

[glossy niche]

better yet, send them your request body, headers and params and tell them to send you a .json back

[quasi blaze]

Biggest technical mystery

[tardy rain]

Email based transfer protocol

[solemn tulip]

you know, you could share the request sent, the one that works and the one that doesn't

[tardy rain]

None of them ever worked

[solemn tulip]

that way we could actually start to reason about whether 400 seems reasonable or if it's bad behavior on the server

[tardy rain]

One is a 400 and the other is a 401

[quasi blaze]

My old keys worked before the sandbox reset. During the sandbox reset, I was getting a 401 response code with the old keys.

[solemn tulip]

which makes sense if the key is no longer valid

[quasi blaze]

I’m off work on weekends so I won’t be able to show you until Monday

[tardy rain]

Smh not dedicated enough to the grind

[quasi blaze]

I don’t get paid on a salary

[solemn tulip]

yet you're looking into this on a weekend

[young shoal]

😬

work do be living in your head rent free 😬

[tardy rain]

Make sure to tell your boss you were working on it on the weekends

Preferably during lunch

🫢

Maybe if you see them doing a hallway

Right after you greet them

You know how it goes

[quasi blaze]

A senior developer once told me a 9 to 5 in software development isn’t actually a 9 to 5. There will be times where I would need to spend my free time researching new technologies, modules, softwares and etc is what they claimed.

[young shoal]

do that during work

[glossy niche]

make a motivational post on linkedin telling everyone how dedicated you are to seeing your company achieve great things and how invested you are in giving it your all lest your contributions are not enough to elevate your organisation to the place it so deserves

[tardy rain]

Its most likely in your contract

[glossy niche]

fk i have linkedin disease from writing all thsoe cover lettesr

[quasi blaze]

So you’re telling me software development is simply a clock in and clock out kind of job? Don’t Doctors of medicine also spend their free time researching illnesses and diseases? That was also the comparison the senior developer made.

[glossy niche]

theres some truth to what you say, but id rather i get paid for the shit i do

[young shoal]

if you want it to be, sure

and no, doctors don't do that

[glossy niche]

its like this for me

[young shoal]

your office doesn't have good tech? rip

[glossy niche]

bad screen: displays JS
good screen: displays JS

[tardy rain]

Doctors having free time? Lmao

[young shoal]

they do need to undergo training and that is on their free time

[tardy rain]

Students or residents

I dont think it counts

Its like thinking of your degree as a 9-5

[young shoal]

at least in the us, doctors have annual training

basically certs they need to pass

[quasi blaze]

I was seriously under the impression that people spend free time researching material for any career their in as oppose to a job

[tardy rain]

Well anyway

Youre not saving anyone's lives with get requests

[glossy niche]

this is true for job seekers, new hires, etc

but in general:
boss makes a dollar
I make a dime
thats why i shit
on company time

[tardy rain]

Based

[young shoal]

it's a choice people make. you can, or you could choose not to

[tardy rain]

And toiletpilled

[glossy niche]

its not like the SaaS suite im working on is going to revolutionalise software

i could not care any less for my job

im only there because i get paid to scold ppl on bitbucket

[stark oasis]

i think the bad/good screen meme references that the thing you enjoy workking on and the thing you get paid to work on are different, but you're always on a computer either way

[glossy niche]

true for me because i WFH

cant wait to close the BAD vscode workspace so that i can open the GOOD vscode workspace

[young shoal]

for wfh you need a good work life balance fr

[glossy niche]

yeah :/

WFH is hard when you r pea brain and have an attention span of 2 picoseconds

[grave cove]

i do

[carmine bane]

Real

[stark oasis]

so I messaged this discord scammer that was soliciting get rich on crypto bs and played stupid hoping I would get a domain out of him, but he instead wants me to join his trading telegram. idk enough about telegram to feel comfortable following him into there.

[grave cove]

then dont

[stark oasis]

ye

[glossy niche]

telegram is full of unhinged shit, dont go there if you dont know what you are stepping into

[stark oasis]

yeah I know that much.

[grave cove]

https://tenor.com/view/1blocked-message-discord-meme-troll-brick-wall-gif-23392632

[stark oasis]

I was hoping to get a domain that I could report but yeah its not worth it.

It would be one thing if I knew the platform very well

[grave cove]

probably best to just block and move on tbh

[stark oasis]

yeah

[glossy niche]

report the telegram group if you dont mind jumping into a gore video fest just to get a report

🍋

[stark oasis]

right

well what concerns me the most I guess is I dont know what kinda information a telegram server owner has about its users and all that shit, and I know its 100% the shadiest platform on the internet.

so im definitely not willing to do it

[glossy niche]

telegram is more private than most other apps, recently they even added anonymous accounts that dont require a phone number

so its not that bad

but its thinly split on

• gay furry groups
• nazis

middle ground is as thin as a blade

oh right you dont like furries lmao

[stark oasis]

Im pretty sure its way worse than that even. It has a reputation for hosting everything that used to only be on the dark web. drug dealing, etc

mostly scams probably

[glossy niche]

ive been using it for years

[stark oasis]

haha

[glossy niche]

yes its full of scams

but it doesnt force you to particpate in social media stuff like facebook for example, so i never have weirdos DM me

not even once

[stark oasis]

i dont dislike furries, i dont have any interest in furry art and I dont want it mixed into my stuff.

But other than that its not that i dont like them

[glossy niche]

[stark oasis]

I generally dont trust platforms that are like, "our services are encrypted :)" because time and time again people say that and its not true.

[harsh tundra]

*don't join random group chats, in any chatting app

[stark oasis]

true.

[glossy niche]

tg is safe than most, but yes they arent super trust worthy

[stark oasis]

you can run into some really uncomfortable stuff on discord just by doing that

[glossy niche]

ive heard stories of them sahring info with authorities

and their serverside code is not open source, unlike the client, so we have to take them at their word

signal on the other hand, seem to actually store nothing

[harsh tundra]

They had audits. They got roasted first because they implemented their own encryption, but after first audits many years ago it actually got addressed and new audits actually show it's safe

Just remember that normal chats are encrypted using your account key, and group chats are stored in some pretty plain way. Secret chats are the ones that have end-to-end encryption

[stark oasis]

one time i was looking for servers about this music group i listen to, and I found a server of people pretending to be the rappers in the group, and faking that its an official discord, and no one in there knows its not real. If you say its not real, your messsages get deleted and you're banned. And the majority demographic of people in there are kids. I reported it but i never checked up on if anything happened as a result

I see.

[glossy niche]

that would be a funny prank if it wasnt so shady

[harsh tundra]

I heard stories of them not sharing info with authorities. It's one of the reasons Russian government doesn't like them and tried to ban it. But on the other hand, since the Russian invasion it's been really useful for Ukrainians

[glossy niche]

the russia one is true, yeah

afaik the CEO went to great lengths to avoid sharing info with the gov

[stark oasis]

anyway, audits are good. If they submit to third party audits and do them yearly, thats not bad.

Its about as good as you can do anyway

[glossy niche]

i think that there was an incident with german law enforcement where they did share info tho

[harsh tundra]

Signal has end-to-end encryption. It was great when it still used to be basically alternative texting app (if someone had signal, it was sent using signal, otherwise it was just normal texting). But shitty group chat stuff.

[glossy niche]

i should probably invest in using apps like those more, you never know what happens

[harsh tundra]

I have tg. Got it originally to chat with some friends, they also played Ingress and I started playing Ingress later... So I have joined a bunch of ingress chats as well.
And partner's family has tg, although they don't use it really actively, but we have a group chat to share photos 😄

[glossy niche]

i initially got it because i thought it was safer, also because whats app and FB fking SUCK, and it had large file uploads which is super handy to me

it makes yeeting around ML projects easy

no more filling up my uni email drive with pickled models

[harsh tundra]

I had a friend upload movies in parts there. XD I'm in some chat with books

[glossy niche]

i had a bunch of book chats but then telegram started to crack down on copyrighted things harder

even tho most of the books were public domain

moderation on tg has tightened a lot over the past 3 years

they nuked a large portion of the NSFW channels that covered the global search

[harsh tundra]

This one chat I'm in has occult/pagan/witch stuff because I wanted to check something and while looking for the book online, I found the link to tg server

[glossy niche]

telegram is actually one of the things that introduced me to leftism lol

[harsh tundra]

NSFW channels, especially as groups instead of "announcement" type of channel, could have illegal stuff there

[glossy niche]

and its all because i looked up "memes" on the global search and ended up in a network of lefty channels

[stark oasis]

I tried telegram once and immediately removed it. It had this feature where it would just connect you to local groups. This was at least 3 years ago. And it was nothing except bots advertising prositution and drugs. I assume its a mixture of real and scams. But I left the same day I installed because it didnt feel like anyone but bots were using it.

[glossy niche]

they absolutely have stuff like theat there and i always report it to be safe, they did actually remove a couple things i reported

oh yeah one time i tried to look up the name of my town on telegram because i wanted to see if it had a news channel there and all i could find were 10 illegal weed channels lol

i WISH they let me block channels so that i cant enter them by accident or see them in global search

for some reason, they dont have that feature

which pisses me off because im rather trigger happy with my block button >:(

[stark oasis]

This wasnt a weed channel, it was just a normal innocuous channel name that would get spammed by prostitutes and drug dealers.

And it wasnt just weed being offered, everything

So yeah... it seems like a cool idea that is just ruined because they wont do anything about the botting and scamming.

It seems like the users they are targetting are in fact bots and scams lol

so I just left the same day i installed it

[harsh tundra]

That's why you just need to have someone to chat with before you install. Like I had friends or people joined because Ingress. I don't think I ever looked anything in global search, other than for osint (checking tg names from malicious stuff we found)

[glossy niche]

i wish they let me block the fking global search

it seems to only work on certain clients

[stark oasis]

I kinda wish Discord had a similar thing that was like, "Show me channels and users that are logged in in this geographicr area" -- but I suppose having such a feature would require another layer of responsibility for what goes on on your app, something I dont think the telegram devs care about lol

[harsh tundra]

By "global search", yoink didn't mean geo search, but rather "search whole userbase/all public chats for this name"

[stark oasis]

mm

[glossy niche]

i reallly like leetcode, i did codeforces for 3 years but got really bored afterwards

codewars didnt seem appealing to me, seemed to be too basic

leetcodes problem set is very nicely curated

[jagged plover]

how long did u do leetcode for?

[grave cove]

no

[vale raven]

skill issue

[stiff siren]

i bought warranty for my backpack @vale raven

[crystal spruce]

I like hard codewars kata

but I dislike the not well made ones

[glossy niche]

also 3 years, but now I do only leet code and not other sites

yes? I avoid recommending it for absolute begginers, there are easier sites, easy codeforces problems can be very trivial too

[glossy niche]

https://youtu.be/hDek2cp0dmI?t=1142 suddenly i like vtubers wtf

catgirl GPU programming anyone?

[rough sapphire]

long double operator ""_wtf(long double x){ return x; };

i love c++

[glossy niche]

the "" is an operator?

ohhhhh its a user defined literal

long double operator ""_w(long double);
std::string operator ""_w(const char16_t*, size_t);
unsigned    operator ""_w(const char*);
 
int main()
{
    1.2_w;    // calls operator ""_w(1.2L)
    u"one"_w; // calls operator ""_w(u"one", 3)
    12_w;     // calls operator ""_w("12")
    "two"_w;  // error: no applicable literal operator
}

its not actually that insane imo, i think julia has a similar thing

[rough sapphire]

it's insane

[glossy niche]

its not really an operator tho, its called that but it seems to only be there to create those literals

which exist all over the langauge btw

like 11L for example

[tulip falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/cats-kittens-kitten-cat-cute-cat-gif-7309452916863172056

[thick ore]

is it possible to dump the memory/cpu/state of a process, then load that back into an empty dummy process

this might sound dumb but

it's worth a shot

[glossy niche]

does the scheduler not do that already? there might be a syscall for this somewhere

[grave cove]

dog

[glossy niche]

i underestimated how much ram multithreading eats up

the code using mljar

automl = aml.AutoML(mode="Perform")
automl.fit(X, y)

and the dataset is only 250kb here

[meager sphinx]

💀

[vale raven]

!ban

[glossy niche]

https://youtu.be/EVMMoDWN79E

finally

some good fking benchmarks

this channel is good btw

[vale raven]

https://reddit.com/r/Python/s/aBus80kBn7

wot

Has Python done either of these?

[uneven pine]

Any way to see it without using the garbage Reddit app

[uneven pine]

????

Lmfao

[graceful basin]

Python has never provided prebuilt linux binaries outside of package managers to my knowledge, which is actually indeed unusual, most languages do have binary downloads for linux.

[uneven pine]

I do agree that it's strange

Considering python's strong point is backend and that is pretty much always Linux

[graceful basin]

IG a statically linked python binary would be quite unwieldy, you would need to embed a tcl/tk interpreter.

[gritty zinc]

for future reference, that'd be a libreddit/teddit instance, e.g. https://libreddit.privacydev.net/

[rough sapphire]

deleted post. mods ceonsoring the truth

r/python is bad

[eternal depot]

Fr ong what bussin todizz @reef geyser ?

[rough sapphire]

https://tenor.com/view/rizzler-zk-scorpion-gif-27175269

[reef geyser]

[eternal depot]

You chowin onsum brefizz?

[reef geyser]

Nah, just doing some research on language design.

[rough sapphire]

so u wnet to that blind date with him or not

[reef geyser]

Er, no?

[rough sapphire]

weak rizz

jahrules

[fathom musk]

LoL

[eternal depot]

I wasn't setting up the blind date for myself btw.

It was for someone much more angry than myself

[rough sapphire]

we will never know

[eternal depot]

You should design a dialect of Gciriku

[rough sapphire]

USA ON TOP!!!