ot1-perplexing-regexing

[rugged owl]

If I had to guess, it's cuze w/e mf analyst on the insurance end, pulled the data like this.

[high haven]

now you need to pull from source system again huh?

[rugged owl]

No, we get data from 3rd party.

[high haven]

good thing you are also the "data lake" guy

oh

super rip

cant even

nab it

[rugged owl]

They provide in SFTP w/e

[high haven]

imagine SFTP. pretty sure we have FTP processes running somewhere

i remember when i was an intern they briefly mentioned it

and i was like wait

dont they mean SFTP

nope it was FTP

🕯️

[rugged owl]

SFTP is a requirement to receive data. Only real reason we have it.

[high haven]

.randomcase legacy

[median dome]

leGACy

[rugged owl]

Well, this is my week. Not even Friday yet.

[high haven]

accurate

[rugged owl]

They dropped the request for the metric. I don't have to dig through that JS crap.

[high haven]

on the 4 quadrant value/effort matrix, query requests are always low value in the grand scheme on things

according to every data podcast i listen to

in a DS leadership book i read, theres also an art to assigning the right quadrants to the right team members

too

that was interesting but not relevant to me atm

since trying to stay out of manager world as long as possible

[rugged owl]

Well, apparently I'm the "right team member"

[high haven]

you just dont get compensated correctly for it

lol

[rugged owl]

Bout to bat back this mf excel error with "you have to rewrite it"

inb4 "can you help me rewrite it"

[high haven]

like juniors get certain boxes, seniors get certain boxes, and then you as the lead get certain boxes

something like that

i hope im making sense otherwise this quadrant talk will just be nonsense

[rugged owl]

Like role objectives?

This excel garbage isn't my strong suit either.

Well, it's slowly becoming...

Also, take a look at this job role I found lmao: #career-advice message

[young shoal]

💀

for some dumbass reason half the string fields in the schema are limited to weird ass limits

give me my text fields damnit

[amber badger]

hey

[high haven]

[young shoal]

rofl

[rugged owl]

I'm done, I did enough work today

Everything's tomorrow's problem

[young shoal]

😩

[rugged owl]

Going to schedule some pre-sent messages

[high haven]

just make it natural like :03 or :11 times

anytime i see an email sent at :00, i assume it was scheduled

[rugged owl]

Btw, do you know how well NLTK is good at removing people's names?

[high haven]

poorly

[rugged owl]

I tried but it ended up gutting everything

Ok, that's what I thought lmao

[rugged owl]

I schedule 8:00 am emails for people who send EoD

Otherwise, I schedule it later in the day when I'm actually awake. O.W. you get some response back and it'll be odd if you didn't respond right after.

[lethal glacier]

I on me tablet!!!

[grave cove]

[reef goblet]

I want those quick wins

[heady lion]

pain

[thick ore]

is it youtubeVideo or youTubeVideo

[jaunty wraith]

ytVideo

but seriously, the former

[plush sun]

I'd also pick the former but can't really point out why

[tulip falcon]

You wouldn't camel case youTube

[plush sun]

I can kinda see it if your reasoning is "separate every word" and " 'you' and 'tube' are different words"

[harsh tundra]

If they weren't a name of a service, written together. It is stylised as YouTube, yes, but it's a single word, single name.

[grave cove]

@weary moat its you!

[heady hamlet]

meatballs r very expensive

[crystal spruce]

#python-discussion message
@latent wolf
I'm mostly just a hobbyist that picked up integration outside of any official curriculum so I'm not that good at integrals, but general advice is to just do a lot of integrals
I tend to see integrals online, try them for a bit, and then either succeed or go look at the solution if I feel like I can't solve it, and then I'll usually have learnt a new method or some identity I can apply in the future
don't be scared if you see stuff you don't know, but also be able to tell when something is too advanced for your current level of knowledge would be my advice
in terms of where to find integrals, MIT integration bee is a nice entry point imo, no complex analysis necessary (for the most part), and I hang around quora and maths stack exchange too

in terms of actual integration tips

uh

feynman's trick is very very versatile

always have king sub in your mind

gamma and beta function is pretty neat so check that out imo

make sure you're solid with substitutions and IBP and all that

if you can't solve something don't be afraid to look it up after you've had a good crack at it

and then if that doesn't work sleep on it

don't disregard convergence when doing integrals

making sure stuff converges so what you're doing is legal is fairly important imo

and I guess have fun?

I'm just doing integrals for fun so my perspective would differ from someone who has to learn integrals for their job or school or something

[jaunty wraith]

hello stickie, great monologue

[crystal spruce]

thank you

[grave cove]

#ot1-perplexing-regexing more like #ot1-stickie-math-monologue

[crystal spruce]

oh yeah and do literally anything to avoid partial fractions

cover up method is great

but otherwise it is usually a pain

and make sure you're very comfortable with differentiation

because you'll be doing it a lot

[latent wolf]

Thx

[crystal spruce]

matrices and linear systems are also surprisingly common so if you have time check out linalg as well

[latent wolf]

I only know how to do derivative

[crystal spruce]

but a lot of integration is just instinctual at least for me

so do a lot of problems to build up instinct

[latent wolf]

Is integration used in cs

[crystal spruce]

if you're starting out from scratch start with a calc 2 course or something

[latent wolf]

No course

I learned because needed to use

[crystal spruce]

I mean like ones online

if you're learning it just for cs that's a different topic

[latent wolf]

Ya I used derivatives for sgd

[crystal spruce]

integration would be less important I think

and knowing how to integrate even less so

[latent wolf]

Ok I really enjoyed deriving

[crystal spruce]

verb for to take a derivative is differentiate

[latent wolf]

Oh ok

https://tenor.com/view/the-more-you-know-gif-26317296

[jaunty wraith]

why not derivate

or derive

[crystal spruce]

idk ask the etymology nerds

[jaunty wraith]

where are them

[latent wolf]

[crystal spruce]

where art thou, etymology nerd

[jaunty wraith]

wherefore art thou, etynerds

[tranquil iron]

because english is weird

[undone thorn]

I use derivate in my lib even though I know that's not grammatically correct because I like it to be homogenous with activate

[tranquil iron]

do you also use "mouses" and "foots" instead of "mice and "feet"?

[tulip falcon]

No but I think I will start doing so now

[tranquil iron]

lol

[tulip falcon]

My feets

[acoustic moss]

if i did

int a = 5;
int& b = a;
b = 4;

that's reflected in a too, right? isnt that what aliasing effectively means

[graceful basin]

yes

[tranquil iron]

b is a reference there, if I recall my C correctly

[graceful basin]

C++, but it is a reference

[acoustic moss]

yeah and a reference is an alias isnt it

[graceful basin]

pretty much

[tranquil iron]

consider in perl, foreach $a in (@arr) { $a = 1 }

$a becomes an alias of each element of @arr

to wit, changing $a changes the element of @arr because $a IS each element of @arr (in turn)

[graceful basin]

you could demonstrate this in C++ as well

for(int& el: arr) {
    el = 1;
}

[tranquil iron]

$a is not a reference. if it were, assigning to it without dereference would change what it referred to, right?

[tranquil iron]

cool beans

[graceful basin]

well, there is the C++ reference, which behaves more like an alias, and there is the "value reference" that java et al use

C++ references are by design not rebindable

[tulip falcon]

Reference to a reference type

[graceful basin]

IG the contrast is that java references are only rebindable, you can't assign to their target

why am I using java as an example, this is exactly how python works as well

[tranquil iron]

oh, I didn't know that. interesting

I guess C++ references are much like perl aliases then

[graceful basin]

yeah, that would make sense

also like raku's is raw

[acoustic moss]

isnt raku perl

[graceful basin]

it really isn't

perl has actual practical uses

[acoustic moss]

LOL

[tranquil iron]

raku is to perl what C++ is to C

[graceful basin]

that's an apt comparison

[acoustic moss]

interesting

[tranquil iron]

raku was too ambitious, IMO. and the logo/mascot is shit.

[graceful basin]

hey, I like camelia

[tulip falcon]

Never heard of it

[graceful basin]

is that the butterfly name

[tranquil iron]

it's absurd

[graceful basin]

raku was absolutely too ambitious, ye

[tranquil iron]

I remember when it was proposed. I actually thought it was a joke

[graceful basin]

it took forever to get an impl

so now it is effectively a language dominated by its reference impl

[acoustic moss]

wow this is definitely one of the logos of all time

[tranquil iron]

lol

[tranquil iron]

you see what I mean, eh?

[graceful basin]

raku is extremely good at making really nice solution

[acoustic moss]

i mean

[graceful basin]

just well, you need to spend a lot of time to actually find the features you can use

[tranquil iron]

as languages go, it is quite interesting. perhaps a bit too flexible though

[tulip falcon]

Woah. This language is based

[tranquil iron]

lol

[graceful basin]

(there are a number of exceptions, I remember the havoc I caused by asking about RLE)

there is no real steppable iterator

outside of just a while loop with indexes

[tulip falcon]

Nobody likes making iterators anyways

To hell with em!

[graceful basin]

I like the grammar feature, even if it is extremely slow

[tranquil iron]

everythin in raku is extremely slow, so ...

[graceful basin]

it can go pretty fast if its doing really basic operations

often beating python about2-3x

which is pathetic considering it has a JIT, but still

or does moar have a JIT, I am not actually sure

[acoustic moss]

is it interesting enough to spend an evening on

[graceful basin]

yeah

it has a lot of features

junctions, custom operators, and the ... operator are ones I think are worth checking out

(0, 1, * + * ... *) being fib numbers is pretty cute IMO

flipflop operators are also somewhat interesting

[tulip falcon]

Sounds mildly interesting

[acoustic moss]

lol each sentence here hurt me

[graceful basin]

oh yes, you get a ton of weak typing

the first language I have seen where weak typing is actually helpful more often than it is harmful

also type hints aren't hints, but runtime type checks

with some minor static inferrence

[acoustic moss]

ok autovivification is a cool name so i can excuse it

damn this thing is really liberal about what it accepts

ah wait no <x y z> is specifically for array of strings not all arrays

[graceful basin]

ye

if you do <<a b $var>> it will also do wild things.

[thick osprey]

Well I feel like a twit. TIL that tox -e 3.10 does not, in fact, run the py310 environment at all. It accepts the parameter, doesn't find a match, and runs against the available python environment anyway.

oops on me.

(venv) preocts @ Preocts ~/python-src-template (preocts)
└─▶ $ tox -e 3.10
...
platform linux -- Python 3.8.10, pytest-7.4.0, pluggy-1.2.0
...
  3.10: OK (11.62=setup[11.29]+cmd[0.33] seconds)
  congratulations :) (11.68 seconds)

[foggy jungle]

huh

[thick osprey]

A version pushed yesterday corrects the behavior of accepting 3.10 blindly. All my CIs are work are broken. HA!

[graceful basin]

fascinating

[thick osprey]

New behavior

Successfully installed tox-4.9.0 virtualenv-20.24.3
(venv) preocts @ Preocts ~/python-src-template (preocts)
└─▶ $ tox -e 3.10
ROOT: HandledError| provided environments not found in configuration file: ['3.10']

[foggy jungle]

Does that mean you haven't... ever tested on 3.10

[thick osprey]

Pretty much. In the CI at least.

Just four tests against the 3.8 interpetter.

[foggy jungle]

That's mildly entertaining-- even moreso that it hadn't caused any significant issues.

Err maybe not as entertaining for you.

[thick osprey]

I only glanced at the issue board for tox dev.

I expect this will make a bit more noise than expected. I was testing it locally to figure out why they made that change. Now I see and 100% agree with it.

So tomorrow I get to figure out how to translate 3.10 to py310 in my CI.

That or I just need some dedicated docker images that only have one python version installed. tox -e py will still default to the available version.

oooh, OR I could get clever and alais the default before calling tox allowing the -e py flag to work and totally screwing the next dev into understanding the why.

[foggy jungle]

Hoping for you to find a path of least resistance towards a solution.

[thick osprey]

least resistance?

[foggy jungle]

I don't know a whole lot about testing aside from concept, so I'm attempting to acknowledge your situation and hoping that you have an easy time fixing it, but it largely goes over my head as to... why 😅

[thick osprey]

.xkcd 2347

[median dome]

XKCD comic #2347

Someday ImageMagick will finally break for good and we'll have a long period of scrambling as we try to reassemble civilization from the rubble.

2020/8/17 - #2347, 'Dependency'

[thick osprey]

that's me. I'm that random person

Is it cold in Nebraska? It sounds cold. I like cold.

[foggy jungle]

Can get pretty chilly in the winter time, yeah.

[thick osprey]

I absolutely vibe with this person's commits

[young shoal]

that's why God invented rebasing

people will say to squash, but they are wrong

[thick osprey]

I squash while in a git rebase -i

[young shoal]

f>s

[naive igloo]

wait ImageMagick is such project?

[young shoal]

it's always like this for gha

[naive igloo]

i always do rebasing over merging

commit history just looks more linear

[stark oasis]

hmm

[thick osprey]

linear history is the sweet lie some tell themselves that development is clean.

I'm not apologetic of that take.

[stark oasis]

yeah I was just thinking, "but its not linear"

[young shoal]

I usually rebase for funsies

[stark oasis]

I have honestly never used rebase. I don't even know what it does. I probably used to when I first learned different git operations, but then I went on to never use it

[thick osprey]

I have a branch off of a feature branch in PR right now that has 70+ commits. More than half of them are breaking and the library doesn't even begin to pass tests until the last three of them. Once reviewed, I'll rebase squash them all into a a few commits before merging.

[young shoal]

rebased

[thick osprey]

It's one of those rare cases where jumping into the middle of my work won't be helpful. It's all broken.

Outside of those cases, yes... I want all your commit sins. I want seven branches off of three features leapfrogging around each other. It's glorious. It's messy. It's valuable history.

[naive igloo]

it bascially just takes all your changes as a patch, and applies it on the commit you are rebasing on

so like, you never branched in the first place

[thick osprey]

It rewrites history.

[stark oasis]

i see

[young shoal]

atlassian has good gifs

[thick osprey]

You start your branch at point A in history and build something. The main branch moves forward, as they do, and is at point D by the time you're done.

You can merge which draws this side graph showing you outside of the main branch between A -> D

You can rebase which rewrites your history to show that you didn't start working until D

[young shoal]

man git rebase

[thick osprey]

My issue with rebase enforcement for linear history is that the branch being around while main went from A -> D tells a story. It explains why choices might have been made.

[stark oasis]

I actually like the graph of braches that comes about after a while.

So the major use case of rebase is just to make the history less accruate so that it looks nicer lol

[thick osprey]

The loudest argument I here for linear history is git bisect.

bisecting a linear history is easier.

[stark oasis]

bisect is another one that i never learned lol

[young shoal]

git bisect is absolutely based and you should learn it

[thick osprey]

but if you are bisecting that often... pause and reconsider things please

[stark oasis]

i see

[naive igloo]

what does it actually so

*do

[young shoal]

it lets you binary search your commit history

[naive igloo]

but

why¿

[young shoal]

pick a known "bad" state, pick a known "good" state, and find the commit that introduced it

[stark oasis]

yeah i see the use case for it, its basically when there is a regression after multiple commits and you dont know which commit has the problem

You could build each individual one and check

[naive igloo]

so you basically "discard" changes after certain commit?

using thay

[young shoal]

no

[naive igloo]

to find bad commit

[young shoal]

you just find the bad commit, it doesn't discard anything

[thick osprey]

It's a very powerful serach and identify tool.

[naive igloo]

(after setting min and max commit)

[naive igloo]

well

[young shoal]

well i mean

[naive igloo]

it discards in the process

[young shoal]

sure, you discard the commits that aren't causing the problem, while searching

[naive igloo]

not as a result

[young shoal]

though, the last time i used git bisect it was completely unhelpful because the problem wasn't a bad commit, rather a change in the global state of my computer 😔

[naive igloo]

like you select start and end commit

then it gives you basically "does it work before XYZ commit"

yes it moves forward in time, no it moves back

[carmine apex]

so you're saying you needed a wider repo...

[naive igloo]

guessing using binary searxg

[thick osprey]

Hello! Do you have a moment to hear about the wonderful world of containers? You have a few friends that do dev work too right? I'm sure you do. Let me spin you some numbers on....

[naive igloo]

right?

[young shoal]

man i wish we could containerize this app. we tried really hard

[thick osprey]

https://giphy.com/gifs/starwars-star-wars-yoda-26FmQ6EOvLxp6cWyY

[young shoal]

😭

[young shoal]

yes, pretty much

[naive igloo]

yeeypie

[naive igloo]

huh

[young shoal]

nevermind, just a good graphic

https://www.atlassian.com/git/tutorials/rewriting-history/git-rebase

[thick osprey]

Don't rebase public history

Ah, that time a junior force pushed to main. Good times....

[carmine apex]

i don't suppose you were a junior at the time?

[young shoal]

i love rebase

[thick osprey]

Honestly had never seen my senior at the time so upset at themselves. They practically yelled at the director to write them up for not setting the branch protections up.

I learned two good lessons that day.

• It's rarely a junior's fault (alone)
• "Applys to admins" in branch protections is worth clicking

[young shoal]

i'm the only one that touches a certain repo but i still have mandatory reviews from the entire devops team, my manager, and a third devops person

[thick osprey]

Same with all the repos in my team at the moment. I'm the only SE.

[young shoal]

i'm stuck teamsing people to just review the thing 😔

[thick osprey]

https://giphy.com/gifs/starwars-star-wars-episode-3-xTiIzJSKB4l7xTouE8

Me... every afternoon to a dozen people

[young shoal]

😔

[thick osprey]

Actually.. my hair doesn't look that good.

[thick osprey]

Yeah. We have production requirements. All changes must go through PR. The PR must have two approvals that aren't from anyone making the changes. THEN we need to do a change request for prod access which requires two more reviews. blah

Most weeks it's easy. On weeks that I'm just trying to push out few dozen patchs/bumps/etc .... grrr

[young shoal]

of course, prod is actually 4 stages of uat and other stuff

which all require approval

then someone produces a tool to push it directly to every user in case of security problems

then everyone just starts using that tool instead of the proper staging process

[thick osprey]

Oh thank the eggs I don't need to CR for each environment. Once I get a director level thumbs up, I can go all the way to home base.

which, because I'm insane, I have automated. I click one button in a UI and the deployment system is on auto-pilot.

it even opens a PagerDuty incident for me if it fails. I can go out and soak the sun up while pushing to prod.

[young shoal]

oh?

i've been working on improving observability for the app i'm writing

[thick osprey]

:3c yeeeees

[young shoal]

there's emails and stuff for CI, and some emails from the database, but the logging situation is a bit 🥴

[thick osprey]

observability, metrics, and tracing. Feel the power of the four golden signals.

[young shoal]

the four what

[thick osprey]

No anchors on this article. About half-way down. https://sre.google/sre-book/monitoring-distributed-systems/

[young shoal]

ah, i see

[thick osprey]

Latency, traffic, saturation, and error rate.

[young shoal]

why isn't there an acronym for that

SLET

[thick osprey]

If you know those of any system you have the four golden signals. You can say "it's working" or "it's broken".

[young shoal]

so true

[thick osprey]

I will kick this drum down the street. OH I get fired up around monitoring. haha

And tracing - be still my little egg heart.

[carmine apex]

forget not the mnemonic, lest ye wonder the status

[thick osprey]

We had an incident happen today, someone physically unplugged a NIC they shouldn't have. Within minutes of the event our NOC team had a full map of the impact across 70 systems with signals on recovery. OH MY GLOB I love it...

[young shoal]

NOC?

now on call?

[thick osprey]

Network Operations Center

[young shoal]

oop

[thick osprey]

aka "always on call"

poor peeps.

[young shoal]

😔

[thick osprey]

(venv) preocts @ Preocts ~/python-src-template (preocts)
└─▶ $ tox -e py3-whateverthisis

  py3-whateverthisis: OK (11.69=setup[11.35]+cmd[0.33] seconds)
  congratulations :) (11.75 seconds)

Yeah... I don't like this behavior at all.

that should fail.

[young shoal]

why is that not just an error

that's so odd

[thick osprey]

The prefix py makes it behave unexpectedly from my view.
tox -e py-whateverthisis

[young shoal]

i should try to solve aoc day 1 with tex

i've been meaning to try it for a while

[thick osprey]

I see where the maintainer is coming from but hrmmm.... that's squishy
https://github.com/tox-dev/tox/issues/2858#issuecomment-1382033793

Well I'm going to be learning more about tox than I thought today.

[young shoal]

😔

[thick osprey]

heck it. Trying out nox instead.

[heady hamlet]

hi pub voice

[frozen crane]

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[split finch]

That's mean

[grave cove]

😬

[frozen crane]

that is not the intention.

[thick osprey]

It is done.
https://github.com/Preocts/python-src-template/pull/121

[naive igloo]

huh

[heady hamlet]

🍝🍮🍫🧋

i want to eat those

but they r pretty expensive

[tulip falcon]

That was a touching automated email

Reminds me of applying to jobs

"Your continued existence is super inspiring"

[pure phoenix]

dog days

wait no dog days ended oops

[distant hazel]

i am ||not||

[carmine apex]

ot0 disagrees

[ashen rampart]

Blocking feature on twitter removed 🙀

[ashen rampart]

@rough sapphire
So how annoying derps are kept away than? I hope Reporting isn't removed as well

[dapper dew]

@hazy maple mechanical engineering is extremely broad

[young shoal]

everyone knows mechanical engineering isn't as cool as other engineering

[acoustic moss]

whoa

[dapper dew]

I like to say that mech only covers things that move, or are stationary, and also things that are hot or cold

[young shoal]

i know a meche. they're really good at burrito wrapping

[jaunty wraith]

re: otn
dependencies*

smh

[fast rampart]

I want a csv file uploaded online

[fathom musk]

ah

[fast rampart]

Do u know how to

[fathom musk]

yeah

do you have a website?

[fast rampart]

I don't have a website I have a csv file

[fathom musk]

where do you want to upload it?

[fast rampart]

On the net so I can access it using panadas

Or just help me redirect it

[fathom musk]

you cannot access the csv locally?

[fast rampart]

To where I need it to be

Needs

[fathom musk]

umm

make a github

upload the csv there

[fast rampart]

No I'm using Jupiter notebook

[fathom musk]

🤦‍♂️

[fast rampart]

I need to add this code there https://www.kaggle.com/code/irtezaplays/twitter-sentiment-analysis/edit

[fathom musk]

have you ever used github?

[fast rampart]

No but I have a acc

[fathom musk]

im pretty sure you can upload csv files and other databases on kaggle as well

did you know that?

[fast rampart]

I can do the same thing on Jupiter notebook

But the file does not work there

[fathom musk]

you are probably using the wrong path

anyways

[fathom musk]

open the csv in vs code and see the right bottom corner

you should see something like utf-16

or whatever

change it to utf-8

save it

it will work

[fast rampart]

Wats Vs code

[fathom musk]

open notepad lol

make a new .csv file

copy paste the content

delete the old file

or just use any tool online to convert your file back into utf-8

i'll go afk for a while

[fast rampart]

It's alr that

It wotked

Bro idk wats happening

Pip install isn't working

@fathom musk

[fathom musk]

Im eating

[fathom musk]

Send error screenshot

[fast rampart]

Oh I made it work

Finally

What do it write in this

dataset_filename = os.listdir("../input")[0]
dataset_path = os.path.join("..","input",dataset_filename)
print("Open file:", dataset_path)
df = pd.read_csv(dataset_path, encoding =DATASET_ENCODING , names=DATASET_COLUMNS)

[fast rampart]

@fathom musk I need help with something else

[fast rampart]

Is it supposed to do this

[tardy rain]

What is df.target

[tranquil iron]

there is no such thing as target

says so right in the error message, "DataFrame object has no attribute target"

[spare oriole]

@naive igloo queer is a term used to describe people other than straight, pretty much

[naive igloo]

alr

[solid elbow]

more than just that

it includes gender identity as well

[naive igloo]

huh?

wdym

[solid elbow]

some people identify themselves with a different gender than the one associated with the sex they were assigned at birth

[prime lagoon]

when some one sees themselves differently than what they are assigned as although needless to say there are caveats because sex isn't a binary

[naive igloo]

uhh, could tou rephrase please :)
just didnt get the part after "as although needless to say there are caveats..."

you just used verbed as subject and it confused me

or smth like that

[harsh tundra]

"queer" was originally used as a slur used against LGBTQ+ people. (btw "gay" was also a slur a long time agk)
The term was reclaimed, the Q in the LGBTQ+ means "queer", and it's generally okay to use as an umbrella term for the community (LGBTQ+ community == queer community). But with the history of the word, it's not good to call a single person 'queer' unless they call themselves that.
So the whole set of anti-LGBTQ+ discrimination is called "queerphobia". Because as you noticed, it isn't just homophobia, here it was transphobia

[harsh tundra]

Trans people can be straight

[naive igloo]

wait what

[spare oriole]

i used it as an basic term someone who wasn't familiar with the topic could understand

[prime lagoon]

if someone is intersexed, and that person decides to follow similar logic to many cis-people (I have blue eyes therefore I am blue-eyed), and utilizes pronouns that would be mixture of a male/female pronoun, would they be considered queer?

[tulip falcon]

Like they could be straight for the gender they choose, it's just a word really

[spare oriole]

the appropiate one here would've been cisgender but that'd been another question

[solid elbow]

in simple terms: someone might be born with a vagina, but might feel that they're being forced to pretend to be a woman. They feel like they were born with the wrong body.

[naive igloo]

but like that makes no sense to me..?

i am sorry 😔

[solid elbow]

probably because you were born in the right body. Most people are.

[prime lagoon]

because there are things that would put one as intersexed like different chromosomes or having a mixture of different parts

[naive igloo]

ok that doesnt help unfortunately 😅

[solid elbow]

it's tough to identify with someone who is absolutely convinced that they're being forced to live as the wrong gender if you haven't experienced that yourself. All you can do is empathize and try to understand that there are a significant number of people who feel this way (I think it's 1% to 2% of all people)

[prime lagoon]

many cis-people do feel like a man/woman. some don't (like myself). and i am certain i lack said feeling of that

[naive igloo]

what is that?

[harsh tundra]

Straight means heterosexual. Trans women can be attracted to men. Trans men can be attracted to women.

As to whether "trans women" are "men or women" because those may not be obvious to you:
trans is short for transgender and is an adjective. Tall women are women, trans women are women. The adjective doesn't change the fact that both are women

[spare oriole]

the easy way to explain is people like you or me, who were born in the right body, and identify as that

[solid elbow]

would you describe yourself as nonbinary, then?

[naive igloo]

so "true" straight?

[harsh tundra]

Cisgender is when your gender aligns with what you were assigned at birth.

[solid elbow]

for example: born with a penis, feel like a man.

[harsh tundra]

Straight is heterosexual. Cis people can be straight, gay, bi, pan, ace, whatever

[naive igloo]

so cis people = non-trans?

[prime lagoon]

personally no. i just go by male because well i have that part. but i don't really feel anything regarding with gender. but there are other who do consider me genderless and therefore non-binary. depends on who you ask, really

[solid elbow]

yep. ~98% of all people

[tulip falcon]

After meet a lot of people I'm like hm guess a lot of ppl feel this way , I have to address the topic and like come to terms with it lol

[naive igloo]

ok i got that part

[spare oriole]

2% are part of the LGBTQIA spectrum

[solid elbow]

IIRC, it's somewhere around there.

[spare oriole]

not strictly trans

[solid elbow]

no, that's significantly higher.

It's around 9% of people that identify as LGBTQ

about 1 in 10.

[prime lagoon]

https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/publications/trans-adults-united-states/ - according to this. around 1% are trans

[harsh tundra]

Yep.
Although with some identities, the border is not clear - some people choose not to identify with the label trans, instead of choosing just non-cis.
I used to use that for myself back when I believed my identity to be partially aligned with my assigned gender, so I didn't feel "truly" trans or "truly" nonbinary

[spare oriole]

oh, 2% of the spectrum is trans, but overall LGBTQIA is 9%?

[tulip falcon]

Among young people there's a higher % of LGBTQ people

[solid elbow]

yep.

[naive igloo]

what?

[spare oriole]

understood

[naive igloo]

...i heard only of LGBTQ(+)...

[harsh tundra]

Okay, my partner's computer is free, so I'm off to play some Baldur's Gate. Tag me if something complex comes up, I love explaining the terms

[naive igloo]

why so many letters

[prime lagoon]

stats seem to fluctates from 3.5% (lower boundary) to 15% (higher boundary)

[spare oriole]

the + represents the other letters

[harsh tundra]

I'm a cute kitty (sorry for photo of the screen)

[naive igloo]

can i call it then just L+ then :)

[prime lagoon]

you can shorten it to queer

[spare oriole]

that'd be perceived as queerphobic

[tulip falcon]

That's the new baldurs gate? Looks like it may be an old game just ad well

[naive igloo]

cuz i didnt include "Q"?

[spare oriole]

just snipe it smh

[naive igloo]

so min form is actually LQ+?

[prime lagoon]

mini form is just Q

[tulip falcon]

That's not inclusive

[spare oriole]

because the L is normally perceived as a shorthand for "Loser"

[naive igloo]

oh

[prime lagoon]

queer encompass all the other letters

[solid elbow]

around 1-2% of people are not cisgender (they don't "feel" like they belong in the body they were born in)
around 10% of people are either transgender or homosexual or bisexual

[naive igloo]

wait being trans ≠ non-cis?

[solid elbow]

it's very close, but not exactly

[naive igloo]

hu

[solid elbow]

some people (Like @prime lagoon) say that they are not cisgender, because they don't identify with the gender they were assigned at birth, but they are also not transgender, because they don't identify with the opposite gender. They either feel a mix of both, or feel something that they don't identify with either gender.

[naive igloo]

uebwkzusbw

it is confusing

[solid elbow]

I think the most accurate way to put it is that everyone is either cisgender, transgender, or non-binary

[prime lagoon]

i do identify with the gender i was assigned at birth, but i don't feel a gender. like what is suppose feeling like a man mean?

[solid elbow]

ah, sorry. Didn't meant to misrepresent you.

[naive igloo]

idk tbh myself

you just have a pp and act as a gentleman by ethics, at least in my understanding

[solid elbow]

someone who is cisgender feels like they were assigned the right gender at birth
someone who is transgender feels like they should have the opposite gender
someone who is non-binary feels like they don't fit into either gender

[naive igloo]

i suppose i just offended like entire lgbtq community with that statement

[prime lagoon]

what is acting like a gentleman mean?

[solid elbow]

I doubt it. Behaving respectfully is easy for anyone to agree with.

[naive igloo]

well ethics have a man and a woman, man generally helps woman, as per ethic rules

[stark prawn]

I've met multiple non-binary people who said they were transgender, that wouldn't fit that definition

[solid elbow]

welp 🤷‍♂️ I tried 😄

[naive igloo]

for example you "уступаешь" woman, help her transfer heavy bags, etc

[solid elbow]

I know quite a few cisgender heterosexual women who would take great offense to that 😂

[prime lagoon]

um. i don't get it really. i have no concept of what it means to be a man/woman socially at all

[stark prawn]

It differes a lot between cultures

[tulip falcon]

In America there's one type of man who works hard and has a family, That's just one kind though

He pays for all the shit 😄

[naive igloo]

yea i am sorry for those people

[prime lagoon]

that's where I'm at, but it seems inapplicable to me as to why that would be a man. to me, it the definition of a hard-working person. not a man, or woman

[solid elbow]

stereotypically, men are providers, women are caregivers

[tulip falcon]

Yeah and I don't see why the woman in that typical house can't work hard too 🙂 many do

[naive igloo]

yes

[solid elbow]

and quite a lot of women find that stereotype offensive 🙂

[naive igloo]

well

unfortunately that is how history went :)

[stark prawn]

A lot of man also find that stereotype to be unfair

[prime lagoon]

and there are work-at-home dads with go-out-to-work moms

[solid elbow]

true, but we write our own future

[stark prawn]

That's why among younger people it's less prevelant

[naive igloo]

...we cant just erase the past either

[solid elbow]

no, of course we can't

[tulip falcon]

Yes I'm sure.

[naive igloo]

yes

[harsh tundra]

Yep. It's amazing

[harsh tundra]

That's me, I'm not gonna snipe myself

[naive igloo]

i find it "more" fair generally too

[spare oriole]

i hope you know i'm reffering to the snipping tool MS has built in

[prime lagoon]

who the hell use that?

[solid elbow]

in any event, as far as the entire discussion on queerness goes, the most important thing to remember is basically just that there are a lot of people who feel differently than you, and that's OK. Letting other people live in a way that makes them feel comfortable is great for everyone.

[spare oriole]

lots

[prime lagoon]

I use Lightshot

the snip tool is meh. rather use printscreen than paste and crop

[spare oriole]

thats cool, different people prefer different things 🙂

[naive igloo]

like me?

well i used it

[tulip falcon]

Nonbinary is kind of analogous to artistic type people they're cool

[naive igloo]

cuz it was built-in

[spare oriole]

yeah it's a quick and easy one for me to use, because it's built in, same for the screen recording tool

[naive igloo]

uhh, that is literally what snippet tool does?

[spare oriole]

downside of the screen recording tool is it saves the videos without compression

[naive igloo]

you can configure in accessibility settings to launch it on PRINTSCREEN press

[naive igloo]

i use OBS for that

[round pendant]

i use win shift s too i guess, dont really like lightshot because of all the stuff thats related to sensitive data being posted to their service and then you can just change random letters in links and get some random's dude info and they do nothing about it

[naive igloo]

about last part they should have just used more letter smh

[harsh tundra]

Ah. Snipping, not sniping. And that's my partner's computer, I'm not logged into discord there, hence photo

[naive igloo]

now i wonder, is it only me who is really into like preserving the past data?

cuz i met some people who didnt really care about it

[stark prawn]

Ever heard of historians?

[naive igloo]

no, but i can imagine

[round pendant]

i dont care about it 🤷

[naive igloo]

:agony:

https://tenor.com/view/noooo-gif-23973681

[tulip falcon]

What do you like remembering? Do you like the present?

[round pendant]

i dont like remembering

[tulip falcon]

Do you like space?

[round pendant]

like what space
personal or the space space

[tulip falcon]

Yeah like I think Saturn is cool

[naive igloo]

i do like myself :)

[spare oriole]

yes, but most people prefer to disregard the bad parts of the past and learn from the good ones

[ionic moth]

it was really visible a few days ago

[round pendant]

i like the aesthetic of nebulas and some other space stuff but im not into researching it or anything, just looks cool to me

[ionic moth]

i went to a silly outer space conference a few days ago

n realized that university people are actually into conspiracies alot

[tulip falcon]

Some of those light we see took billions of years to get here, they might have been eaten up by a black hole by now

[round pendant]

tbh couldnt care less

[stark prawn]

Learning about the bad parts helps prevent repeats.

Although some groups right now look at those bad parts now and use them as inspiration 😦

[round pendant]

well if the bad parts are caused by your actions-sure

if not then better just forget

[ionic moth]

bad parts are always consequence of an action one way or another

[round pendant]

not always your's actions

[ionic moth]

i thought you mean 'your' as broad for everyone

i don't agree tho

[round pendant]

this is one of the worst things you can ,,not" agree on lmao

[naive igloo]

not me, i wont disregard even bad events

[round pendant]

sexual assault victims, family trauma

both of those things can be just random and not caused by your actions

[ionic moth]

OH

[spare oriole]

as long as you learn from the bad events and dont repeat them

[ionic moth]

i thought we were talking about the nazi and those things

[naive igloo]

ye

[tulip falcon]

Well different people like different things that's fine, you're engaging in the chat in general so there's one thing you (maybe) like

[ionic moth]

I think i may be missing context

[thick ore]

just decided i don't want to make a fresh project

[round pendant]

lmao

[heady hamlet]

hi

[tranquil iron]

I agree that fermented projects are yummier

[stable fulcrum]

lol

[unkempt prairie]

458 errors to solve

[thick osprey]

@acoustic moss is this not glorious? :3 (pardon the lack of tmux, in the middle of rebuilding some things)

[acoustic moss]

😭

[tardy rain]

This gives fossil-age college professor

[young shoal]

meh

not great, not terrible

[grave cove]

shit was so boring I forgor

yeah you're just gonna have to suck it up

[thick ore]

damn

i was so confident i was good at frontend

then i tried to make a to-do list, turns out i don't know how to pass props around

[faint portal]

I spilt coffee over my t480 and had a very stressful 3 hours. I disassembled trackpad, keyboard and wiped it all down. Realized the damage was worse then I thought. ALMOST went to the apple store to get a macbook pro. Then I came back to my senses and got myself a replacement keyboard from amazon. Read reviews about official lenovo parts store and heard horrid stories, and decided 3rd party sellers can't be any worse.

😱

Honestly, I was secretly hoping for bigger damage so I can have proper excuse for getting macbook 🤣

[young shoal]

isn't the 480 like 5 years old anyway

[faint portal]

but this tank from 2019 is still rock solid

yes

[young shoal]

maybe you're due for an upgrade 😌

[faint portal]

maybemaybemaybe

[naive igloo]

not in hs yet :b

freshman is what grade again?

[naive igloo]

ah

so i will be going to hs next year by american system

uh

by my system it is still middle schoold

you will be fine :)

[heady hamlet]

switzerland is not real

[grave cove]

source?

[heady hamlet]

switzerland is fake news to store gold n money in bank

[grave cove]

[heady hamlet]

switzerland is fake news to sell clock

people go there have to pay lots of money in order to maintaij an unreal world

[grave cove]

[dapper dew]

Switzerland is pretty nice. Lucerne was amazing

[naive igloo]

/shjrug

¯_(ツ)_/¯

1st to 4th grade is primary school
5th to 9th is secondary/middle school
10th to 11th is high school (to 12th for younger pupils ;) )

[heady hamlet]

i miss py general

uh evwrything have to change

[uneven pine]

Asking for stars is like begging for likes and subs on YouTube

It simply assures I'll go out of my way not to do it

[tardy rain]

im not sure this is star worthy

[uneven pine]

Does it have a theme for a better OS? I don't want my site visitors to think I use a Mac.

🤣

I'll genuinely star it if it does

[tardy rain]

what is the purpose of this repo anyway

404 page
Solution: just avoid it bruh

[frozen coral]

!rule 6

[royal lake]

Rules

6. Do not post unapproved advertising.

[plush sun]

I wonder what the new abbreviation will be

PyDis also just means "Python Discord"

[empty prism]

Working on a tamagotchi type thing, what does this sprite convey to you?

[dapper dew]

Feeling unwell

[heady lion]

mans hungy

[empty prism]

Hungy is what I'm going for trying to distance from unwell

Maybe something with a more neutral expression conveys it better?

But now it just kinda looks like a dude with wiggly tentacles lol

Too much?

[heady lion]

imo hungry + green = unwell

but i think the neutral face gets it across more

[empty prism]

Ideally the color would be chosen/randomized so I have to be concious about that being a factor for sure

[thick osprey]

Been jamming to this for about 18 hours now...
https://mynoise.net/NoiseMachines/coolQuantifyMusicGenerator.php

[ruby fox]

I have heard that catchphrase before 😂, non repeating beats? 🤔 Any irrational number ig 😅

[empty prism]

mynoise is awesome

[ruby fox]

But it's a new thing 😮

Ig hmm i will try it out

[thick osprey]

Stephane puts a crazy amount of effort into these generators and recordings.

[empty prism]

The generator is new, but the site's been around for a good long while

[thick osprey]

And, yes, it works a lot like what you mention. Non-aligning cycles.

Polyrhythms is a great generator to play with the idea. 10 beats, all very repeating. Mix it up and you get something that is ever changing.
https://mynoise.net/NoiseMachines/polyrhythmBeatGenerator.php?l=00005832135522126019&m=&d=0

[ruby fox]

I will surely try it out later, it's awesome to hear lol(im in class 😅)

[thick osprey]

This one in particular carried me most of the way through NaNoWriMo last year 👀

[ruby fox]

NaNoWriMo?

[grave cove]

something something wri month

[thick osprey]

National Novel Writing Month

Happens every November. https://nanowrimo.org

Last year's is still being written, I've got a lot to learn about finishing a novel. But those polyrhythms were on for easily three-quarters of my work. haha

[ruby fox]

😮 that's a new thing I'm hearing. Which country is conducting these?

[dapper dew]

.bm preoct-opied music

[paper sequoia]

.bm some interesting music thing

[plush sun]

America, according to Wikipedia

[ruby fox]

Thanks 👍

[oblique rapids]

anyone know how to fix

@rough sapphire there is no issue in program writen

[rough sapphire]

Yo

Where is my black flagggggggggggggggggg

[cobalt remnant]

🏴

[rough sapphire]

@owner bro

[rough sapphire]

no

i talk about homophobic flag

[cobalt remnant]

um...

[rough sapphire]

Where is it dude djfsldjfksdfjsdlfdks

[cobalt remnant]

🏳️ We've got french flag. Is that good enough?

[rough sapphire]

french?

nahh they are L people

industrial Revolution

colonials

and

colonials

LLLL

[grave cove]

[thick osprey]

Global.

My teammates: You've done a lot of work on that library
Me: Thanks!
Them: Glad we did that. The reviews were rough but worth it.
Me: ...
Them: ...
Me:

[tranquil iron]

?

[naive igloo]

3000LOC changes?

[thick osprey]

2,500 for that PR. I think that will bring the feature up to about 7k total? I stopped looking.

[peak prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-goodbye-chat-esmbot-gif-23077908

[naive igloo]

you should look at qalculate codebase, its truly glorious

few files are just 7k LOC

[jaunty wraith]

what are you cooking

[late lion]

Hi @proud dew

[thick osprey]

Chaos.

The project in question has gone years having multiple hands with no enforced style, pattern, or review process. I just spent 8 days aligning it to some standards, refactoring some of the inheritance nightmares away, and picking one of the four model patterns for all the models.

[jaunty wraith]

that sounds like a lot of work

was it worth it?

[thick osprey]

We'll find out in about two more weeks. These changed break everything for the automation service using the library. So... now I get to go through that monolith of chaos and update all the references to the library I just cleaned.

Thankfully the library now fully supports annotation with all Any use removed and a standardized naming convention. Should be all downhill from here.

The end goal is to see if we can trim 20% of the dev time off work from both repos. Time spent just trying to understand how things work.

[tardy rain]

have you considered tossing it in the bin and starting over?

[dapper dew]

@primal herald hey did you see my DM?

[vale raven]

[dapper dew]

#esoteric-python is calling me

[lime maple]

@tranquil orchid assemble

monkeytype time

[lime maple]

do

60 sec

30 is for weaks

[tranquil orchid]

rightio 👀

[polar kestrel]

60s

[lime maple]

CMON

MY HANDS

I AM BETTER THAN THIS

I FEEL SLOW

[lime maple]

jack wins

[polar kestrel]

daaang making the leaderboard

[tranquil orchid]

I reckon I could hit 140 60s

Lemme find my laptop I think I tend to do better on there

[polar kestrel]

I genuinely can't imagine my hands moving faster

[lime maple]

membrane 💪🏻

[tranquil orchid]

welp, nevermind, bout the same 👀

[lime maple]

how-

[young shoal]

sheesh

[tranquil orchid]

gah damn 👀

[young shoal]

i flopped at the end 😭

[rough sapphire]

damn

[vale raven]

HAH

I win again

[stark prawn]

no bad for doing it on your phone

[young shoal]

based

[carmine apex]

skill issue

[stark prawn]

bradly sees dead people

[young shoal]

i fell off on qwerty 😭

[carmine apex]

though I shouldn't be too mean: #python-discussion message

[tranquil orchid]

That's falling off??? 👀

I'm at a solid 10wpm on qwerty

[young shoal]

lol i was too for a while

then i realized that rebinding everything to work with colemak + coworkers computers is annoying

[vale raven]

s/ly/ley/
FTFY

It's a great movie
I don't want to give it all away
But yeah, speaking to the dead dinosaurs

[tranquil orchid]

I've gone down the alternative route of making a keyboard with the firmware forcing it to be colemak 👀

[young shoal]

lol

laptop?

[tranquil orchid]

lil portable ergo board

Need to make a case still

[lime maple]

if you had a thumb

im sure you would have 204238042804928 wpm

[long citrus]

just got my laptop

[pure phoenix]

rip

i used to have like 130ish wpm

now my hands are rusty

at least i got like a 20 wpm increase with monkeytype, used to be 95ish

welcome for more though

[grave cove]

blazingly fast

[young shoal]

🦀

[thick osprey]

why is the colour so messed up? ah well

[tranquil iron]

I agree, the colors are messed up

[grave cove]

i too agree

[tranquil iron]

there's too much agreement going on here!

[grave cove]

so true

[runic plinth]

Ortholinear Gang

[thick osprey]

Linear keys are amazing.

[naive igloo]

holy crap bro got worse consistency that i do

i thought mine was pretty bad

but i never saw a graph of f(x) = sin x

[thick osprey]

And yet still finishing more code. /tease

[reef goblet]

i use a magic keyboard BTW

[tulip falcon]

Arch btw

[young shoal]

based accuracy

[runic plinth]

Based thinkpad. I love typing on this thing but qwerty.

[foggy jungle]

[thick osprey]

Looks like you're slowing down there at the end. 🧓🏽

[foggy jungle]

I have a problem where I look too far ahead and start typing the word after what I'm trying to type =/

and this issue where my fingers move faster than my brain

[gritty zinc]

very relatable, also the internet keeps telling me it's a sign of dyslexia 😔

[foggy jungle]

I think trying to type at speeds of 170+wpm, it's probably just a symptom of brain not working fast enough.

[young shoal]

you fell off fr

[foggy jungle]

or rather, perhaps fingers not working fast enough to keep up with brain? iunno.

[wanton delta]

i simply have early onset rsi

[small coral]

after 10 minutes of trying to do this with no errors i got this

[foggy jungle]

I have extreme wrist pain, I just push through it

[small coral]

my keyboard keys fee lighter than usual

they're not supposed to be this light

[foggy jungle]

I think I can get a bit higher with my reds.

Blues have too much in the way of bottom out for me, my reds have o-rings.

[small coral]

thisd fels so werid

[foggy jungle]

lol

[thick osprey]

I do miss my mx clears.

[small coral]

it's like they're air

[thick osprey]

One day I'll be motivated enough to put clears on this keyboard.

[young shoal]

you need a better keyboard 😦

[foggy jungle]

I was just looking at mx clear keyboards the other day. (I realize that's not... the same thing as reds.)

I had clears at some point in the past and I recall them being pretty nice to type on though.

[wanton delta]

i have two keys that are blacks on my kb as leftover of the rhythm game time, rest are red

[thick osprey]

mx clears are super heavy, no click, tactile bump. They feel good under a pair of hands that worked in retail for decades. I just slap the keys a little too hard for my own good.

[foggy jungle]

I think MX SPEED Silvers are some of the best switches I've owned.

virtually no pre-travel, you can brush a key and it'll actuate.

A set of reasonably think o-rings bring the bottom out and pretravel distance together too, which makes for a really unique typing experience.

Where you're just kinda'... touching things instead of typing.

[wanton delta]

sounds like a case of trigger finger

[runic plinth]

I have pains on my right forearm if I use normal keyboards

Boba u4s are the best tactile switches

[royal lake]

Bad argument

Message "sͨeͧrͭuͤ" not found.

[foggy jungle]

!charinfo sͨeͧrͭuͤ

[royal lake]

Character Info

\u0073 : LATIN SMALL LETTER S - s
\u0368 : COMBINING LATIN SMALL LETTER C - ͨ
\u0065 : LATIN SMALL LETTER E - e
\u0367 : COMBINING LATIN SMALL LETTER U - ͧ
\u0072 : LATIN SMALL LETTER R - r
\u036d : COMBINING LATIN SMALL LETTER T - ͭ
\u0075 : LATIN SMALL LETTER U - u
\u0364 : COMBINING LATIN SMALL LETTER E - ͤ

Full Raw Text

\u0073\u0368\u0065\u0367\u0072\u036d\u0075\u0364

[wanton delta]

boba?

[foggy jungle]

Neat.

[runic plinth]

Gazzew boba u4

[wanton delta]

ooh

[runic plinth]

Diacritical marks or something for my name

[thick osprey]

sounds like a nightmare to me. I'd approach the keyboard and the buffer would overflow.

[foggy jungle]

[tranquil orchid]

I've been wanting to try them

[runic plinth]

So far the best feeling and sounding switches I've tried without having to do anything to them.

[tranquil orchid]

I've got a friend who has them who really likes them

I've got some choc reds on my new board (that I'm yet to finish), not too sure how they'll feel since I haven't finished making it but I like the idea of a nice low profile board

[runic plinth]

The ergo you posted right? I wish they would do more variations of the choc switches. I don't like the feel of any of the tactile ones. The linears feel fine though. Post the finished build in the future!

[tranquil orchid]

Should look something along these lines once it's done

Haven't finished the bottom half of the case though, once I've done that I'll get to machining

[runic plinth]

OHHH Machining the case is impressive and I am envious of that skillset.

I wish I could. Did you also create the pcb?

[tranquil orchid]

Yeah https://github.com/jackbrad1ey/thingamaboard

There's a couple things I'd change with the PCB if I were to do a V2, but it's not too bad

[foggy jungle]

Thing AMA Board

[tranquil orchid]

That's mostly why I did the project 👀 the PCB and firmware are pretty basic compared to other stuff I've done, I don't have a heap of machining experience though so mostly did the project for that

[runic plinth]

That is immensely impressive. It looks amazing so far.

[tranquil orchid]

My guess is no that wouldn't be possible

[eager cliff]

The gravity thing ir that stuff above

[tranquil orchid]

At the distance the baseball or pencil or whatever would be orbitting it would be too far away

Lets see if I remember year 12 physics

[eager cliff]

Would a worlds largest pumpkin work

Use a solid tungsten ball as the center, to act as the sun

The rest of the bodies would be melons

Forget orbiting me, the melon system shall be a reality

Plus the tungsten ball could reflect light from distant stars giving my melons day and night. I hope

[tranquil orchid]

I mean no matter what objects you've got you can get them to orbit

But at these sizes

The speed would be so incredibly slow it would basically look like it's still

[eager cliff]

Well I cant exactly make planets like in hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy

[tranquil orchid]

Why not? I thought you were making a simulation or something 👀

[eager cliff]

Oh yeah, I can simulate it

Got to carried away and thought I was actually going to be able to go to space and do it 🤓 me and my imagination

[tranquil orchid]

For example, say you want something to orbit 1m away from you

You said you were what, 120 pounds

[paper sequoia]

Is this keyboard?

[tranquil orchid]

idk what that is in reasonable units 👀

[eager cliff]

Question is, how big of the Sprite do I make the pencil

[tranquil orchid]

.wa s 120 pounds to kg

[median dome]

Wolfram Alpha

about 54.4 kilograms

[tranquil orchid]

yeah

[eager cliff]

8x8 pixels?

[tranquil orchid]

54.4kg

what's the gravitational constant again

[eager cliff]

I've no clue

[tranquil orchid]

Was it the 6.67 one

[paper sequoia]

Oo, that's cool!

[tranquil orchid]

That sounds about right

sqrt(6.67x10^-11 * 54.4 / 1)

[subtle granite]

Spring swap them to 54-56g

[tranquil orchid]

that's an orbital speed of about

0.00006

m/s

At a distance of 1m from you

[eager cliff]

Google says its 6.6743 × 10-11 m3 kg-1

[rough sapphire]

Why

[eager cliff]

Might be how you get the gravity of different objects in space idk I didnt read what it said I just looked at the number

[tranquil orchid]

That's the gravitational constant

[rough sapphire]

No why are you doing this

[eager cliff]

Nvm it just says gravitational constant = 6.6743 × 10-11 m3 kg-1

[eager cliff]

I'm bored.

[tranquil orchid]

please we've had far weirder topics in this channel

[subtle granite]

Further follow up on the keyboards: https://bastardkb.com/charybdis/ this thing is amazing with bobas. The guy runs a very nice open source mission too

[rough sapphire]

No im just curious

[tranquil orchid]

I remember there was a good 3 hour discussion here involving calculating spaghettification in a black hole

[eager cliff]

I cant neccesarily go back to game development, my poor laptop cant handle more than 2 instancez of godots lighting/shadow casting system

2d simulations is all I can do, this agpu is garbage

[rough sapphire]

I got my computer for 500 or was it 800. Somewhere in that range.

Has a decent gpu

Quite old though

[eager cliff]

This laptop is advertised as a "college productivity" laptop. For college use

[tranquil orchid]

simply do embedded stuff and work with even less powerful hardware so you learn to make the best use of it possible 👀

[eager cliff]

But it can barely handle anything

I mean it can play counter strike source at a steady 50fps

[rough sapphire]

Use ncurses and make fun terminal apps

[tranquil orchid]

Most college students don't need much

Engineering and CS students though

Lil different

[eager cliff]

But css isnt demanding at all so it isnt surprising

It can play dont starve and other 2D games

[rough sapphire]

Can it play noita

[eager cliff]

Glad I bought those 8 years ago

Back to gravity simulation of getting melons and pencils to orbit me

What type of melons are naturally big and semi heavy

Of the watermelon family

Coconuts/gourds can work too

[tranquil orchid]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/315089473681620992/743417943509041192/53DBE0FF-CA99-4E0F-A9F6-0920F75562F6_2_0_a.mov Here's some inspiration

[rough sapphire]

My gfs melons

[eager cliff]

Yes I watched that tim guy do something similar so I can just use what I learned from him as the framework

[rough sapphire]

Made this on my calculator.

[eager cliff]

I guess the shape doesnt matter, only the size and mass

So I can use squares, rectangles, triangles, circles, etc

[tranquil orchid]

I mean in reality they would

But just assume they're all point masses

To make your life easy

[eager cliff]

Did I say 1 to 1 scale

What I meant to say is 1000 to 1 scale

I'm not going to program a pencil spinning rapidly while I attempt to get the math right for a perfect orbit

Elliptical orbit or almost perfect circular orbit? Does it matter

[rough sapphire]

Hmm when does that occur

[eager cliff]

Wdym

[rough sapphire]

Under what conditions will a planet circle something in an elliptical orbit.

[tranquil orchid]

Almost all of them

[tranquil orchid]

Nothing is going to follow an absolutely perfect circular orbit

[rough sapphire]

Guess it depends on how ot was introduced to the system

[tranquil orchid]

In the real world anyways

[rough sapphire]

Yeah

[eager cliff]

I'm doing this for nothing. I can just do this is universe sandbox 2 cant I

Too bad I cant run it

[rough sapphire]

Its alright

[eager cliff]

Can borrow my cousins pc again on his day off

But nah, irl social interactions are awkward

[rough sapphire]

Its better than doing nothing

[tranquil orchid]

Go to your local uni and just waltz into one of the computer labs

[eager cliff]

Nah

I have the stereotypical school shooter look. Dark clothes, messy hair, etc

[tranquil orchid]

Can't say I'm familiar, I'm not in a country where that's a thing 👀

[eager cliff]

We do have a technical college that probably has a physics professor. Could go and ask to speak to them

[rough sapphire]

I do like wearing black

[eager cliff]

And see if they could do a demonstration for me

All I know is, is that physics people like talking about physics.

It's a job where all you do is think, speak and solve math

Worth a shot, as long as I dont interrupt a lecture

[rough sapphire]

Cool

[eager cliff]

@tranquil orchid are you one of those physics people

[tranquil orchid]

No I'm one of those electrical engineer people

[eager cliff]

Oh

I'd show you something I made thatd probably irritate the heck out of you

Nah itd def drive you to insanity

It's just 4 electrical outlets screwed into two small pieces of wood. With a power cable crudely soldered onto it for power

And they're not even grounded. 🙂

[tranquil orchid]

Is that your version of a powerboard 👀

[eager cliff]

No I got bored again that day

It works but it isnt safe and I dont trust it. I still use regular outlet hubs or whatever they're called

[tranquil orchid]

Yeah I'd be a little worried about dying using that

[eager cliff]

The outlets are grounded tho. Still scary

[tranquil orchid]

More so the whole live wires things 👀

[eager cliff]

Electrical components with exposed metal connected to said components is fun

[rough sapphire]

I touched an exposed outlet box at school trying to switch off a light