ot1-perplexing-regexing

[mystic drift]

@grave cove Halfway done through it

I fell asleep

And ended up napping away for the past two hours

[grave cove]

sorry, done through what?

[mystic drift]

Reinstalling Arch

[grave cove]

ah right

[vast grotto]

May i ask why

[mossy flare]

Well i did... But there were a few very big pedophile scandals in our church...

I kinda see it now as it is... An instrument to in act might

[mystic drift]

I just don't

I'm not particularly religious

[mossy flare]

They loosely interpret old Scripture as however it fits them

[mystic drift]

Anyway, gotta get shit done

[vast grotto]

Its not about the people that we encounter because there will always be messed up people i just go by the fact that its the the religion itself

The people in church arent perfect its the religion of it im not trying to say anything thats just how i view it

[mossy flare]

Well they indoctrinate you...

It was really eyeopening to me to see that there are 1000 of christians Groups that all believe that only their special branch will be able to enter heaven...

[vast grotto]

I mean alot more determines things but i dont want to get super involved in it rn

[mossy flare]

I only believed what i believed because i was born into it

[vast grotto]

Wdym?

[mossy flare]

Are you a christian?

[vast grotto]

A branch of christianity yea

Oh no i dont believe its only one group

[mossy flare]

Which one?

[whole pebble]

fork it and start a cult

jk

[lament cairn]

christianity PR

[vast grotto]

I dont think one special branch would be the only ones to make it to heaven

And lds

[mossy flare]

Well many branches believe so, including mine

[mossy flare]

Which one?

[tropic lichen]

My early schooling was at a christian school, and i've come to know one or two non-denominational christians over time
I had good experiences with all of them, though I do understand that certain branches tend to unfortunately attract less savoury people

[mossy flare]

I only ever seen/experienced targeted hate against the "other"

[vast grotto]

Hate against another christian group?

[tropic lichen]

I'm sorry to hear that's been your experience with religion

its like any demographic of people - you're gonna get your truly honest and good people, and you're gonna get your bad eggs

[mossy flare]

There are a few progressive paths in Germany but im completly through with ot

[mossy flare]

For me it feels like the bad are in power

[solid elbow]

Mm. Bad eggs tend to be attracted to positions of authority, though. And religious leadership is an easily attainable form of authority.

[mossy flare]

And a religion that is about compassion shouldnt constantly push against minorities

[whole pebble]

I occasionally see churches post articles talking about some good thing they did.

Apparently they thinks it's a newsworthy event when a church starts following their beliefs lol

as if you don't see that much nowadays

[tropic lichen]

That is unfortunately true. I've probably been rather lucky with the fact I haven't ran into such people who believe in the more structured and organised branches

[mossy flare]

Here in Germany they are activly fighting against minimum pay...

They have Schools and Hospitals which they only need to fund with 1% but can choose who they employ (discriminating against non christians, LGBTQ, Divorced,... THIS ISNT ALLOWED ANYWHERE ELSE IN GERMANY) and (somewhat) what they teach.

Im so sick of it... (Im sry for the rant)

[tropic lichen]

nothing to apologise for, that does sound like an awful political situation to be in

[solid elbow]

https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/03/19/africa-uganda-evangelicals-homophobia-antigay-bill/ seems on topic for Pride

Homosexuals in Uganda can now be put to death, and that's at least in part due to the efforts of American evangelicals.

[mossy flare]

Peak.

[tropic lichen]

how absolutely lovely :/

[trail kettle]

you dont have to go to church to beleive in god

[mossy flare]

Well i dont

[trail kettle]

no but ur saying that u dont beleive in god because of the people at the church

im saying just dont go to church and you can still beleive in god

[mossy flare]

I agree but even then; which god?

I only believed in the christian God because thats how i grew up

[trail kettle]

well Christianity beleives in heavenly father

[mossy flare]

It was a nice experience to see it from the inside

But i was born somewhere else i would have believed in something else

[trail kettle]

yeah thats how most things are

[solid elbow]

the number one thing that gets me about religion every time I think about it is the number of people who believe that a) there is only one religion that is correct, and b) they had the very good fortune to have been born to a family that practiced the right one.

[mossy flare]

Well my branch didnt we believed in the holy trinity

[trail kettle]

depends on your social ideology

[trail kettle]

ah

[mossy flare]

And i believe it should be more factual...

A poor kid growing up in an indian slumb who has never heard of god will end in hell

[trail kettle]

no they wont

[mossy flare]

Like thats not what i wanna believe

[mossy flare]

Why?

[trail kettle]

because god takes those things into account

how was the kid supposed to know anything different

[mossy flare]

Well whats the point then?

[trail kettle]

you have to be a very bad person to end up in hell

[mossy flare]

Im pretty sure im a good person, more compasionate than most people of my church

[trail kettle]

he wants you to beleive in him

[mossy flare]

Will i end up in hell for not believing in God?

[trail kettle]

i dont believe so but you would end up in a lower level of heaven based on my beliefs

[mossy flare]

If yes then i would be fine with it as it would be blackmail

And if not then i get all the pleasures of heaven without restricting myself on earth

[dapper shell]

@trail kettle I have had people tell me they pray for me, because I am going to hell because I wasn't part of their religion.

@trail kettle i am glad that your beliefs don't go that way

[solid elbow]

I know a whole lot of people who are very convinced that the religion they were raised in is right and true, and I know almost no one who is very convinced that a different religion than the one they were raised in is right and true. I think that's incredibly interesting to think about.

[vast grotto]

Thats pretty messed up

[solid elbow]

that's... incredibly common.

[vast grotto]

Who says someones going to hell for not being in someone else’s religion

[solid elbow]

I'm quite surprised that's never happened to you

[mossy flare]

Wel a lot of people?

Ever heard about the 100 year war?

100 years of war between 2 different Christians Groups... Millions dead because the whole shit

[vast grotto]

It hasnt happened to me but i know it exists

[solid elbow]

I have family members who would happily tell me that I'm going to hell. 🤷‍♂️

[mossy flare]

I got teached the same thing

[mossy flare]

Oh my uncle was sure we were all going to die because of vaccines... "you will see" he told us SMILLING

We are outliving his prophecy already by 2 years... But our contact didnt survived it.

[young shoal]

godlygeek I'm ready to connect with you on LinkedIn 👀👀🥺🥺🥺

[mystic drift]

I'm slowly regretting my decision

Decided to randomly implement cryptography because why the hell not

And I'm suffering

[solid elbow]

every crypto expert will tell you not to roll your own cryptography

[young shoal]

not to actually use it at least

it's fun to try

[solid elbow]

yeah.

[mystic drift]

Slowly getting there

It's passable

[quiet kraken]

I’ve heard lots of stories of folks converting to Christianity. Guess it depends on the circles you run in or media you consume. shrug

[solid elbow]

mm. I don't think I know a single person who converted to Christianity - though I do know a few who switched denominations.

[frozen crane]

@solid elbow you probably aren't the type who knows a lot of Chrisitans

also, switching between denominations within protestant Christianity isn't that much of an ideological shift. whereas switching from a denomination of protestantism to catholicism is a larger shift. the former wouldn't always amount to a "conversion".

[distant hazel]

idk any chrisitans

[frozen crane]

I would expect you to know more christians than godly
(which sounds pretty ironic at face value)

[distant hazel]

haha

i was poking fun at your typo

[frozen crane]

what was the typo

oh, I see

you look at each letter of long words?

[distant hazel]

my eyes see the shapes

[frozen crane]

the shape is basically the same!

[distant hazel]

but yeah i agree the average protestant christian in my circle does not know what the nuances are between most of the denominations. maybe in broad strokes

that goes for me a well though i definitely used to know more

[frozen crane]

protestant denominations don't really purport to be "the right one" at the expense of the others

[grave cove]

my parents know quite a few who've switched from christianity to others and the other way around as well, so it's not like, unheard of

[frozen crane]

whereas the catholic church, for example, purports to be "the right one"

[distant hazel]

but have you met any reformed believers?

[frozen crane]

and the orthodox churches purport to collectively be "the right ones"

[frozen crane]

yes

[solid elbow]

I have one relative who converted, and that was from Catholicism to Lutheranism. 🤷‍♂️

[solid elbow]

but uh - evangelicals definitely do

[frozen crane]

they purport to be correct at the expense of catholics, for example

I don't think they necessarily think they're correct at the expense of other protestants

[solid elbow]

that is not my understanding...

Conversionism, or belief in the necessity of being "born again", has been a constant theme of evangelicalism since its beginnings.[3] To evangelicals, the central message of the gospel is justification by faith in Christ and repentance, or turning away, from sin. Conversion differentiates the Christian from the non-Christian, and the change in life it leads to is marked by both a rejection of sin and a corresponding personal holiness of life. A conversion experience can be emotional, including grief and sorrow for sin followed by great relief at receiving forgiveness. The stress on conversion differentiates evangelicalism from other forms of Protestantism by the associated belief that an assurance will accompany conversion.[40] Among evangelicals, individuals have testified to both sudden and gradual conversions.[41][42]

they believe that if you are not "born again", you are not truly a Christian, so far as I understand.

[small coral]

i have never heard of that belief in my family

[solid elbow]

and they identify as evangelical christians?

[small coral]

i think so

we're identified as "born again" christians

[solid elbow]

well, that'd be evangelical, then

well, what are your beliefs about christians who have not been "born again"?

[small coral]

they're christians

[frozen crane]

yes, but one can have the "born again" experience that causes them to be saved, but not formally belong to an officially evangelical church.

[solid elbow]

ok, perhaps. But my impression has always been that evangelicals believe that christians who have not been born again will go to hell.

[tulip falcon]

I'm atheist at expense of all of them

[frozen crane]

yes, but you can be "born again" under that definition and be a non-evangelical protestant.

[solid elbow]

ok, but... isn't that still them believing they're "right"? That a christian of a non-evangelical denomination only gets to heaven if they happen by chance to luck into doing what the evangelicals say you must do?

[frozen crane]

yes, but it amounts to the most minimal possible definition of Christian belief, namely "acceptance of Christ as the savior".

[solid elbow]

Per https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Born_again

In addition to using this phrase with those who do not profess to be Christians, some Evangelical Christians use the phrase and evangelize those who belong to other Christian denominations or groups. This practice is based on the belief that non-Evangelical Christians, even those Christians who are professed Christians, are not "born again" and do not have a "personal relationship with Jesus." They therefore believe that they should evangelize to non-Evangelical Christians in the same way that they would evangelize to people who do not profess the Christian faith.

that does say "some Evangelical Christians", to be fair. I had always thought it was "all", but perhaps not.

[frozen crane]

(As an aside, this conversation is strictly about discussing what these beliefs are. Not making a judgement about whether or not those beliefs are good or bad. Which the #code-of-conduct would preclude.)

[tulip falcon]

Fine. Religion upsets me but I won't take every segue into this topic to bounce my head against a brick wall so to speak.

and u caught me waking up in the middle of the night

[frozen crane]

I check discord in the middle of the night, too. usually I'll put a podcast on and try to fall back asleep

[tulip falcon]

Sounds lovely

[solid elbow]

speaking of god and podcasts, https://www.oldgodsofappalachia.com/ is awesome

[foggy jungle]

Godcasts.

[solid elbow]

does that extend even to Catholics and Orthodox Christians? I guess what I'm wondering is: are there Christian denominations you were raised to believe are wrong, or are your beliefs that any of them can wind up in heaven as long as they have faith in Jesus?

[grave cove]

lmfao

godcasts

[small coral]

for the first question yes
for the second question it's the latter

[quick ledge]

Yes but it maintained by KDE

[stark oasis]

If it would circumvent the notice that says "we're not going to install updates for these packages unless you get ubuntu pro" that would be an acceptable solution to me, but if it still does that, I can't be having that,.

I can test it in a vm i suppose.

[fair crypt]

does anyone really use it?

[stark oasis]

I've set people up with it before. Its good for people that are coming from Windows and they expect the OS to have a full line of graphical tooling.

I also really like KDE software so Ive used it before. I do feel like... the emphasis might be on distributing their software more than on things that a distro should be focused on.

But I dont have any data to back that up, it just sounds reasonable to me

[tulip falcon]

Haven't used KDE in like 7 years

Hopefully it's better now

[quick ledge]

I don't

[stark oasis]

I love KDE. If you're the sort of user that is looking for light, there is probably another system for you. Or at least you don't necessarily need every tool they have available. But If you want full, modern desktop experience with unified settings, support for modern monitors, Qt interfaces... its great

I wouldnt put it on a server or something lol

Its the most "modern" DE Ive seen so far.

[signal scroll]

Gnome better

[fair crypt]

I use KDE

I talking about KDE Neon

[signal scroll]

Gnome still better

Oh

[fair crypt]

everyone has different needs

[signal scroll]

Okay

[stark oasis]

I really don't like gnome. I have three types of linux systems

1. server -- no need for desktop at all
2. powerful desktop computer -- kde plasma all the way
3. pos or laptop -- xfce with Chicago95 theme :P

https://github.com/grassmunk/Chicago95

[fair crypt]

hello Lunix man

[stark oasis]

hello

[rough sapphire]

@stark oasis , have you been able to run a good daw and/or a good video editing software

?

by the second i actually mean davinci

by the first, whichever you've found good enough

mostly i care about the daw though. Ive been thinking about using wine to install a lite ableton version but i havent been able to make linux-based stuff use my external audio card yet

[stark oasis]

So, I'm not a professional video editor, but I find that kdenlive works for any simple edits or clips that I need to do.
As for audio DAWs, I honestly think you're better off just using Windows or MacOS. Audio production is so messy, and all the solutions and plugins are expecting you to be on a system that isn't Linux. There's a good tool for every job, and while some people may think its worth it to fight the uphill battle, it doesn't make sense to me to use Linux for audio production.

That is an official lunixman(tm) take

@rough sapphire

[rough sapphire]

Kdenlive is okay, but, it does not have enough video fx

[stark oasis]

yeah my use case is usually very simple. Ive also used shotcut before, but that program is not as stable as kdenlive

[rough sapphire]

I prefer davinci because of the mirror fx and the better colorkey actually

[stark oasis]

Ive used that before on windows but not on linux which is why i didnt mention it

[rough sapphire]

Im sure there should be a video fx linux thingy, even if its console based, but i havent found it, thus why i crave for davinci

but i cannot figure out how to make it work with opengl without catastrophically failing

regarding daws

Linux does have a lot of audio editing stuff

But 1- i cannot figure out how to make it work with bigger sample sizes

and 2 - the linux daws are not ableton, ableton has a very specific workflow that is unbeatable imo

i should try bitwig, but

those two are my main issues with linux

are what makes my computer be a dual booting hybrid

and everytime i boot windows to have fun with those programs i end up having to wait 40mins to 1 hr for the updates to stop hoarding my disk usage

[stark oasis]

I'm definitely not saying it isn't possible to do, clearly people do it. But that's exactly it. I'm not really interested in alternative open source audio production in the same way I am for other things. I want Ableton, I want AutoTune Pro, I want the same tools that other people who are producing audio are using. I don't want to bash my head into the wall trying to make things work that only 1 of every 1000 people are using.

but yeah

I don't dual boot anymore. I just have two systems.

[rough sapphire]

so you use windows/macosx for audio?

[stark oasis]

I use Windows for audio production, although its not something I do very often. I have played around a bit with it though, more than video editing.

But in terms of work, programming, networking, systems.... I use linux for all that

[rough sapphire]

ive found the same

even gaming

linux just works better, but i havent been able to make it work for those two cases

[stark oasis]

I don't play video games that often and when I do its usually like really old ass games that run on emulators and linux is great for that.

I played classic Doom recently

on lunix

[rough sapphire]

there's a thing in steam that ports windows games to linux

works fairly well

[stark oasis]

Ive never tried it but its definitely come a long way because of Steam

[rough sapphire]

the main issue however is with the audiocard

is the long-tier issue with drivers

[stark oasis]

I dont generally have issues with my audio on linux for just basic output.

but I would never want to have a complicated audio config for linux

[rough sapphire]

no, basic no

the issue is, when you got something big going on in a daw you might want to go to a bigger sample size, which delays audio output but gives more time for "real time" audio processing

[stark oasis]

are you talking about reducing latency? I do that in Ableton using ASIO4ALL.

But yeah its things like that, that is why I'd rather just use something other than Linux.

for Audio production

[rough sapphire]

asio is good, but its not as good as the external card

[vapid horizon]

Do the microsoft arc mouse or the apple magic mouse have left and right-click buttons

[tranquil iron]

the magic mouse doesn't have buttons per-se, but it does have left-right button functionality

[vapid horizon]

What about the Microsoft arc mouse

[tranquil iron]

never heard of it

[vapid horizon]

this thingy: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/d/surface-arc-mouse/8p5sv2rx3rn5?icid=Surface-Acc_Cat_R2CP1_021823&activetab=pivot:overviewtab

@tranquil iron ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

[tranquil iron]

you know more about it than I do now

[vapid horizon]

ok

[limber mantle]

Rainbow, rainbow, every day whole month

Everything with rainbow dash, is about 20% cooler

https://youtube.com/watch?v=f6H6TgZodPI&feature=share7

[tranquil iron]

you're scaring me, man

[upper glade]

Hi Guys I've purchased the book python crash course 2nd edition. Where can we find the answers on the Try it Yourself problems? thanks in advance.

[pearl vine]

@fresh pollen you are in this?

[fresh pollen]

Duh

I’m a programmer

You joined today I’ve been here for ages

[tranquil iron]

how many ages?

[fresh pollen]

October on this account

Was here for 2 years on my old

[tropic lichen]

i can't believe they made a whole cartoon based off killjoy's avatar

[limber mantle]

all my python projects meet same fate: they are converted to golang

[uneven pine]

I can't believe theres ponyposting in pydis

[robust zephyr]

happy caturday everypony

[cobalt remnant]

Ponies in chat and nobody told me?

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/644297834866278420/961615955098742795/sunnydoorbonk.gif

"Let me in!"

[cobalt remnant]

It's not called golang.

It's just go

golang is the website because go.com is owned by disney

It's so old, it doesn't use https

[limber mantle]

golang is its second name... which is kind of better one from the point of SEO.
sorry, but using go, u google everything, except the go u need

[thick ore]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1035137556330848332/1106118866670723112/download_4.gif

[warped sentinel]

yeah, reset it in case

[thick ore]

is that your github repo?

[rough sapphire]

nope i was tryna show someone somthing

[thick ore]

yeah reset it

[jovial spruce]

it resets it for you, pretty neat

[warped sentinel]

indeed

and I would reset it again

just because

[thick ore]

i wonder how discord knows it's on github that fast

i got that message once because i accidentally committed my token

[jovial spruce]

they have some kind of cooperation i assume

[carmine apex]

github has agreements that scan for such things with discord and other places

[vale raven]

GitHub has a list of regex patterns that match tokens from various services
When you push, they scan the incoming contents for matches

If you pay for enterprise, you can even add your own custom patterns

[thick ore]

Damn

[signal scroll]

Do they Tell discord?

Or whT Happens after push

[vale raven]

https://docs.github.com/en/code-security/secret-scanning/secret-scanning-partner-program

Here’s the list of integrators: https://docs.github.com/en/code-security/secret-scanning/secret-scanning-patterns#supported-secrets

[signal scroll]

Thanks

[rough sapphire]

guys in my insta account the messenger icon is not appearing on the top right. I have tried everything. How do I resolve this problem?

[fair crypt]

They always seem to follow the same pattern

🤔

[rough sapphire]

Making a bot offa snap ai

Im evil as hell😈

[fair crypt]

haha so evil so evil

[stark oasis]

function Set-RegistryValue {
    param (
        [Parameter(Mandatory=$true)]
        [string]$RegistryPath,

        [Parameter(Mandatory=$true)]
        [string]$ValueName,
        
        [Parameter(Mandatory=$false)]
        [string]$ValueType,
        
        [Parameter(Mandatory=$true)]
        [object]$ValueData
    )

    if (Test-Path -Path $RegistryPath) {
        Write-Host "Registry key exists: $RegistryPath"
    } else {
        # Create the registry key
        New-Item -Path $RegistryPath -Force | Out-Null
        if (Test-Path -Path $RegistryPath) {
            Write-Host "Registry key created: $RegistryPath"
        } else {
            Write-Host "Failed to create registry key: $RegistryPath"
        }
    }

    $registryValue = Get-ItemProperty -Path $RegistryPath -Name $ValueName -ErrorAction SilentlyContinue

    if ($registryValue -eq $null) {
        New-ItemProperty -Path $RegistryPath -Name $ValueName -PropertyType $ValueType -Value $ValueData -Force | Out-Null
        $registryValue = Get-ItemProperty -Path $RegistryPath -Name $ValueName -ErrorAction SilentlyContinue

        if ($registryValue -ne $null) {
            Write-Host "Registry value created: $RegistryPath\$ValueName"
        } else {
            Write-Host "Failed to create registry value: $RegistryPath\$ValueName"
        }
    } else {
        Write-Host "Registry value already exists: $RegistryPath\$ValueName"
    }
}

$registryValues = @(
    @{
        RegistryPath = "HKCU:\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\Explorer"
        ValueName = "DisableSearchBoxSuggestions"
        ValueType = "DWORD"
        ValueData = 1
       
    },
    @{
        RegistryPath = "HKCU:\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\Explorer"
        ValueName = "SomeOtherValue"
        ValueType = "String"
        ValueData = "Hello, World!"
        
    }
)

foreach ($each in $registryValues) {
    Set-RegistryValue -RegistryPath $each.registryPath `
                      -ValueName $each.valueName `
                      -ValueData $each.valueData `
                      -ValueType $each.valueType
}

[jaunty wraith]

[stark oasis]

probably should check that valueType and valueData match

or at least handle the error

also should probably use registryValue in the write-host output instead of interpolating strings

I'm working on automating the tedious configuration of a new windows system

[stark oasis]

idk, it might be easier to just have a thousand lines of Set-ItemProperty

I already wrote the code so there is no point not using it I guess...

[lament cairn]

meow

[jaunty wraith]

don'r

[paper sequoia]

While ot0 is silenced, it's still sending messages?

[tulip falcon]

.quiz start general

[median dome]

The available question categories are:

- General
Test your general knowledge.
- Retro
Questions related to retro gaming.
- Math
General questions about mathematics ranging from grade 8 to grade 12.
- Science
Put your understanding of science to the test!
- Cs
A large variety of computer science questions.
- Python
Trivia on our amazing language, python!
- Wikipedia
Guess the title of random wikipedia passages.

If a category is not chosen, a random one will be selected.

[young shoal]

cs

[tardy rain]

Cs

Lmao

Whats with the weird capitalization

Also its Maths

Silly americans

[young shoal]

it's not called mathsematics is it

silly brits

[tardy rain]

The word is greek smh

The word is greek smh

Just call it m9s

Just call it m9s

[signal scroll]

Hi

[grave cove]

m@s

[polar galleon]

linguistics unite! 😄

[cosmic quiver]

Finnish and Japanese definitely do not have "fully" consistent spelling - pronunciation mapping either, it might be more consistent than say English but both languages still have subtleties with pronunciation

[polar galleon]

@cosmic quiver Japanese example? accent on satou (salt vs. something else?)

oh, satou means sugar

[cosmic quiver]

せい being pronounced as せー, the i being silent in a lot of words with say き or し like きそく, not to mention you cannot tell the expected pitch accent of the word from writing alone

[polar galleon]

oh, right, you forget about these since they are so consistent

Spanish then? 😛

Ah, I guess you need to include the rules about gue que, blergh

[cosmic quiver]

written and spoken language are kind of two separate worlds that do not map onto each other precisely so it's kind of expected to have nits like these

that's not to mention things like dialects

[polar galleon]

sure 🙂 It's so annoying with all the "language policing" and people complaining when you don't pronounce the word "per letter" as written, even that is not how anyone have pronunced it ever .. until recently that is >.<

[solemn tulip]

I think the more annoying cases is where we have words spelled the exact same but with different pronunciations depending on meaning 🥴

ambiguity is always fun

[polar galleon]

Which languages have those? Swedish (stegen vs stegen)

[solemn tulip]

swedish for sure does yeah

[cosmic quiver]

my mindset on 'language policing' is that as long as it's legible and the message gets across I don't care at all, unless the person has asked and/or is learning

[polar galleon]

reasonable stand

[solemn tulip]

planet vs planet is a case with more difference

very different vowel sound

[cosmic quiver]

I don't know a single language that doesn't have homonyms

[solemn tulip]

and is it en plan or ett plan? depends on the meaning, and both cases are pronounced the same

[polar galleon]

I'm always confused if homonyms is either homograph/homophone or both 😛

[cosmic quiver]

either or

[polar galleon]

it seems to have a floating definition

[cosmic quiver]

a little

[polar galleon]

vim question: anyone happen to know how to search for a line containing "A but not B". I was thinking about negative atom, @! but not sure how to combine with the other pattern 😒

[young shoal]

ask Fenix or godlygeek. and in #editors-ides

[polar galleon]

I ended up doing :g/A/v/B/normal! A MARKER and then search for MARKER 😛

[young shoal]

lmfao

[polar galleon]

Alla sätt är bra utom de dåliga. (All solutions are good except the bad ones.)

[solid elbow]

/^\(\(NegativeRegex\)\@!.\)*$\&.*\(PositiveRegex\)/

I think that ought to work.

[polar galleon]

I don't ... even ...

[solid elbow]

^\(\(NegativeRegex\)\@!.\)*$ matches if, at every position on the line, NegativeRegex doesn't match.
.*\(PositiveRegex\) matches if, at some position on the line, PositiveRegex matches.
\& makes the regex match only if both the left and right side match.

[polar galleon]

It's like the backlash I got for my :Matchdo suggestion, the alternative one person suggested 🤮 https://www.reddit.com/r/vim/comments/125dxi8/searchdo_a_friend_of_cdobufdowindo/
(but I guess this is vim discussion now. are we allowed to talk channel on-topic things here? :P)

[polar galleon]

I mean, I don't want to learn that abomination

[solid elbow]

I mean, 🤷‍♂️ But there's not really anything to learn beyond what I just said. 🙂

[polar galleon]

sure, It will look prettier with \v I guess 🙂

Thanks, I will store it somewhere for later if I need it

[solid elbow]

you were on the right track with the \@! atom. The only real trick to it is that the line foobarbaz matches \(bar\)\@! because there are some positions on the line where a bar isn't. So you need to say, at every position in the line, this pattern matches only if this isn't a location where that negative pattern is matched

[polar galleon]

right

not very convenient to use, unfortunately

[solid elbow]

yeah - well, \(foobar\)\@!foo is "this position matches foo but not foobar", which is perfectly reasonable to use - but it's position-oriented, not line oriented. There's no convenient way to say "this line does not match X", only "this position does not match X". You need to do extra work for "this line does not match"

[willow narwhal]

.trivia python

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What file extension is used by the site module to determine what to do at every start?

[willow narwhal]

pth

.pth

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What name does a lambda function have?

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<lambda>

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Name the only non-dunder method of the builtin slice object.

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indices

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When was Python first released?

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1991

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How is infinity represented in Python?

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float("inf")

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Which year was Python 3 released?

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2008

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What is the official name of this operator :=, introduced in 3.8?

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assignment-expression

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augmented-assignment

assignment-operator

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walrus

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[thick ore]

.trivia python

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[thick ore]

idk

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How is infinity represented in Python?

[thick ore]

float("inf")

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Can you pickle a running list_iterator (y/n)?

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n

no

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what

whaaaaaat

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no

wtf

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What decorator is used to allow a protocol to be checked at runtime?

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WHAT THE FUCK ARE THESE QUESTIOSN

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Which module when imported opens up a web browser tab that points to the classic 353 XKCD comic mentioning Python?

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What file extension is used by the site module to determine what to do at every start?

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pyo

wait what

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pth

pyc ?

HUH

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[willow narwhal]

.trivia python

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Name the only non-dunder method of the builtin slice object.

[willow narwhal]

indices

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What name does a lambda function have?

[willow narwhal]

this really repeats a lot..

<lambda>

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[willow narwhal]

we need new questions

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How is infinity represented in Python?

[willow narwhal]

float("inf")

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Can you pickle a running list_iterator (y/n)?

[willow narwhal]

n

y

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How does one call a class who defines the behavior of their instance classes?

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metaclass

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What file extension is used by the site module to determine what to do at every start?

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.pth

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Which file contains all special site builtins, such as help or credits?

[willow narwhal]

_sitebuiltins

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[rare wing]

This is epic

[wise sierra]

will ai replace data scientists ?

[dapper dew]

No I don't think so

[wise sierra]

but gpt4 code interpreter works better than data scientists

[dapper dew]

I disagree

[ionic isle]

What makes you think that? It's highly inaccurate

[wise sierra]

i saw youtube vids

[ionic isle]

That doesn't make it fact.

[wise sierra]

gpt 4 already so better at replacing devs

[ionic isle]

It has not replaced a single developer yet

[dapper dew]

So the hiring manager is firing developers and instead using chat got to do their work? Or how does that happen

[wise sierra]

google shut down code jam, ibm freezed hiring

[lament cairn]

It says gullible on the ceiling

[ionic isle]

Neither of those things have to do with AI

[dapper dew]

That sounds like more work

[wise sierra]

so who will replace them ? another human ? no. it's AI

[ionic isle]

For those new to this person to have a reference, they watched a random dude's YouTube video making claims that have no factual evidence backing them up

[ionic isle]

Yes, another human.

[dapper dew]

Is the AI doing the work on its own? Sounds incredible

[wraith hound]

i would like to see GPT write an allocator in unsafe rust any language where writing an allocator is viable, and then talk to me about it being decent

i would offer you a 100% guarantee that there will be UB

[wise sierra]

yes AI is here to replace devs

[wraith hound]

OR it will be a copy of a program on the internet

[ionic isle]

Can we use it to stabilize transmute next? 😩

[jaunty wraith]

https://i.redd.it/a0wui8um8pqa1.png

[dapper dew]

How

[ionic isle]

I don't think the model that produces a teenager's codebase when asked a question is anywhere near replacing anyone.

[dapper dew]

I don't see how that is possible to be honest

[ionic isle]

It literally spouts questions and answers from SO and Quora. I think my job is safe

[wise sierra]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_NHMGZMb14
just watch it

[wraith hound]

GPT is like those people who can recite a whole bunch of facts about all sorts of things but have no idea what they mean

[wise sierra]

gpt4 easily replaces a siniro software engineer

[ionic isle]

I definitely will not waste my time on something I already know.

[lament cairn]

Isn't a lot of any software engineering, including data science, not just coding?

[wraith hound]

i, a 15 year old, can absolutely write better code than some of the stuff i've seen it spit out :)

[ionic isle]

Please, no, don't use logic. It only enrages them further

[dapper dew]

How

[ionic isle]

This is a great point, I'm sorry for comparing your intelligence with something as low as GPT 😔

[wise sierra]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uD353DeOM-4&t=1s

[ionic isle]

More edgy YouTube videos LMAO

[jaunty wraith]

the third comment on the first video is "Shows that, just like search engine skills, you still need to know what you want, and how to review good code."

[wraith hound]

i watched about 3 seconds of this video and i heard the words

it introduces a breaking change

dunno if i'd want that thing messing with my code

[wise sierra]

watch the end part. it blows the sinior dev

[jaunty wraith]

it definitely took some back and forth to get a working solution

[lament cairn]

I don't care much about the "GPT will replace devs!!" thing - I don't know enough about AI ot software engineering to be absolutely, 100% certain - but I'm a tiny bit concerned about using youtube videos as "proof"

[wraith hound]

so i either trust some tool to edit my code... or i do it myself in a way i trust?

i dunno bout you, but that seems like an easy way to get subtle bugs

and those are far worse than the obvious ones

[jaunty wraith]

and intermittently occurring bugs

fuck those

[wraith hound]

because if you're going to audit every line of code it writes, that's going to be slower than just writing it yourself

[wise sierra]

but users gonna replace devs for gpt5

so devs gonna be jobless

[wraith hound]

now you're just making claims with no evidence whatsoever

theorizing about models that don't even exist

[jaunty wraith]

the users (of ChatGPT) will be devs 🙂

[dapper dew]

I don't have the time to watch this currently, can you summarize the main points

[wise sierra]

yes, so nobody will pay for devs.

[wraith hound]

i'd also like to point out something that makes the idea of AI revolutionizing computing seem absurd: when was the last time someone said something, you did it, and then later you realized you misinterpreted?

[jaunty wraith]

I think my phrasing was wrong

[wraith hound]

or perhaps you made an assumption for something they didn't specify, like "what if it goes wrong?"

because a huge part of programming is figuring that out

the entire reason we use programming languages over natural languages is that they're unambiguous

[tardy rain]

webmd is a thing yet people still visit the doctor 💀

[jaunty wraith]

what I mean is the devs will be the ones using ChatGPT to help them code

[wise sierra]

devs will everyone.

so nobody will get a job

[foggy jungle]

Do you work in development?

[wraith hound]

so, would i really trust some tool, one that doesn't even know much about the domain nor how to ask me clarifying questions, to write my tech? fuck no.

[jaunty wraith]

who's everyone?

[wise sierra]

those who aren't devs

[jaunty wraith]

[wise sierra]

i am a software engineer

[tulip falcon]

Wait 50 years to become a dev with AI

[jaunty wraith]

you still have to know when and how to scrutinize the code given by gpt

[wraith hound]

this brings me to my best analogy

did calculators replace mathematicians?

[foggy jungle]

And you're concerned that you will be without a job?

[wise sierra]

yes i'm very very scared

ai will make devs useless

[wraith hound]

no. they revolutionized the field greatly, but mathematicians exist, don't they? they've just moved on to solving more interesting problems.

[tardy rain]

you're a student

[foggy jungle]

Apprehension is understandable, but I would suggest you explore the capabilities of ChatGPT from your professional standpoint as opposed to informing your opinion through YouTube videos. You might draw some intuition up as to the major flaws with GPT-generated code, and the difficulty that comes with trying to iterate upon it.

[tardy rain]

you said in #career-advice you're still doing your degree

[wise sierra]

yeah but i'm a software engineer

so i can say

i'm doing coding na ?

[tardy rain]

do you have a job as a software engineer?

#career-advice message

[foggy jungle]

A very large portion of the code we troubleshoot here is sourced from ChatGPT or other AI tools. It is often very confidently incorrect, and requires quite a bit of reading to try and make sense of the code it produces. 😅 I'm pretty confident developers as a whole are in no danger for the moment.

[tardy rain]

sorry if this sounds gatekeepish but come on bruv

[wise sierra]

yes i did work as software engineer at a company, in php CRM

and i'm still a student and i'm at my final years

i'm now at my university library pc chatting here

a time pass

[tardy rain]

💀

[foggy jungle]

I say I work in Cybersecurity even though I'm a student. I'm not sure being a student is mutually exclusive with a professional title.

[jaunty wraith]

I can assure you, as long as you're not a "copy-paste programmer", you'll be fine

[wise sierra]

but i'm very very scared

[tardy rain]

theyre not mutually exclusive, I'm trying to see if they actually work

[wise sierra]

probable i'll start a restuarent business

leaving coding

[foggy jungle]

I do not think you need to be concerned, I think is the point we're trying to make here.

I'm not sure what level of evidence you need to purport that idea, as we're not clairvoyant.

[jaunty wraith]

but in the end, you do you

[foggy jungle]

But current indicators exist to state that you're likely not at risk of being unemployed soon.

[wise sierra]

ai has already taken away my google job

google has shut down codejam

cp is dead

[ionic isle]

That's definitely not true

[tardy rain]

youre not getting into google in this mindstate anyway, whats the point of being so pessimistic for no reason

[wraith hound]

competitive programming is a highly repetitive niche, to be fair

[wise sierra]

but i can still get my scholarship later in foreign university in AI and survive as AI scientist

[jaunty wraith]

even when codejam was being hosted, it wasn't the primary way Google hired

[wraith hound]

most problems solved in the real world... aren't, at least not to the same degree

[wise sierra]

lol, cp is where coders do their work

[ionic isle]

This is so wrong

[wraith hound]

you're telling me the industry is competitive programming?

[wise sierra]

google ditched it for AI

they trust more in AI

[wraith hound]

uhm... with all due respect, that's bullshit

[ionic isle]

Where did they say this?

[rough sapphire]

the industry is autism

[wraith hound]

?

[wise sierra]

Google ceo said that it's AI first company

[ionic isle]

You quoted them saying "for years" it's been their priority. It's Google, they're in a position to focus on AI.

Read this post and tell me where Google says they stopped Codejam for AI: https://developers.googleblog.com/2023/05/celebrate-googles-coding-competitions.html

[dapper dew]

Like building and using it, not replacing their own workforce with AI chat bots

[wise sierra]

yeah but why they stopped

[ionic isle]

They're not going to tell you.

[wise sierra]

bc they dont' need any more

[foggy jungle]

Now, coincidentally, is a wonderful time to be an ML/AI focused developer or a data scientist.

[wise sierra]

they already built AI

[ionic isle]

🤦

[tardy rain]

they stopped cause they probably fired the people that ran it

[jaunty wraith]

that's not how they did hiring in the first place

[dapper dew]

I don't think this conversation is going to go anywhere.

[wise sierra]

yeah software engineers are dead

[jaunty wraith]

guess i'll die

[tardy rain]

sigh, sure

do i just drop wherever?

[jaunty wraith]

yeah man

[dapper dew]

.

We have come full circle again

[wise sierra]

so be an AI scientist

[jaunty wraith]

rem, sre is still software eng

[wise sierra]

ditch coding

[dapper dew]

No

[jaunty wraith]

no, i'm fine

[tardy rain]

im gonna be a tradie instead

[wise sierra]

believe what AI gives you

[dapper dew]

You haven't convinced me, and you haven't listened to us. It's pointless to continue this discussion in my opinion

[tardy rain]

thats where actual job safety is

[wise sierra]

i'm dying my friend

[foggy jungle]

That's what they want you to think.

[wise sierra]

so those are like my last words

nvm

AI is grasping me

[tardy rain]

bye felicia?

[tulip falcon]

💀

Ai doomer moment

Happens to the best of us

[wise sierra]

https://openai.com/careers/software-engineer-infrastructure

i'm applying now

[tardy rain]

even if gpt actually gets good enough to replace us the last thing i'd switch to for a living is being weird algebra man

[wise sierra]

The annual salary range for this role is $200,000 – $370,000

[wise sierra]

it's enogh for my future

[ionic isle]

Going electrical sounds fun

[wise sierra]

then i'll leave coding

[tardy rain]

im not smart enough to be an electrician 💀

[ionic isle]

😂

[ionic isle]

Look, just don't touch the sparky thing and you'll be fine I swear. And if it's big and orange, think of it as a warning

[distant hazel]

electricity, plumbing, general carpentry

[foggy jungle]

Don't listen to Soul. Shutting off breakers is a chore, do everything while it's live.

[distant hazel]

would love to level up in all those

[foggy jungle]

If it sparks, you know it's working.

[wise sierra]

so AI really replaced software engineers

[foggy jungle]

If that's your takeaway from this conversation, sure.

[tardy rain]

I'd just die

[ionic isle]

Dude no seriously the double gang that has my outside light by the door is wired so jank, we had to have it on to know where it was going

[wraith hound]

my final comment

[wraith hound]

warnings are only that, warnings

[tulip falcon]

I'm gonna work in a coal mine

[ionic isle]

Challenge accepted 😎

[foggy jungle]

I discovered I had a breaker panel that was drywalled over in my old house when I was flipping breakers to try and turn off some outlets and none of them would turn off.

[wise sierra]

i'll start Uber eats

[jaunty wraith]

that sounds like an interesting job at their scale ngl

[ionic isle]

That's.....amazing

[wise sierra]

software engineers are dead

[foggy jungle]

After running through all the breakers about 10 times, I just stared into oblivion for a few hours before acquiesing and calling an electrician.

[foggy jungle]

It's fine if you believe this, but please don't doom-post or bait the argument in here if you have no intentions of listening to any countering opinions.

[young shoal]

this type of doomerism needs to be banned ASAP

[tardy rain]

honestly

[ionic isle]

"Well there's your problem, this was the facade! Can't believe you couldn't tell..."

[foggy jungle]

They were copy-paste houses, he said it was a common issue and knew right where it was. 🥴

[ionic isle]

Damn

[wraith hound]

fucking hell

[tulip falcon]

"Do not complain about your new AI overlord" /sarcasm

[wise sierra]

just wait for gpt5

[tardy rain]

No

[foggy jungle]

Time marches onward Mar, you cannot avoid it.

[tardy rain]

why wait, i'll quit right now

[tulip falcon]

Wee

[jaunty wraith]

one software eng dead

[foggy jungle]

At this rate, I might be hirable.

hireable?

At this rate I might get hired!

[young shoal]

no one wants to hire a war criminal

[jaunty wraith]

doubtful

[foggy jungle]

🥴 I genuinely just stay catching strays.

[tardy rain]

it do be like that sometimes

[jaunty wraith]

sez u

[young shoal]

yeah sez me

the only war crimes I've committed are in war thunder

[jaunty wraith]

proof?

[ionic isle]

And that would have been playing it at all 😔

[young shoal]

no no, you know what they say

better in war thunder than in real life

[ionic isle]

What happens in WT stays in WT?

[young shoal]

there aren't really many opportunities for war crimes anyway

except you can shoot ejected pilots

[tardy rain]

you can go shoot at civilians

[young shoal]

there aren't civilians I think

[tardy rain]

you could try making certain chemical agents in your backyard

[young shoal]

oh we're talking about real life

[ionic isle]

Lol "that escalated quickly"

[tardy rain]

💀

[wise sierra]

AI can code better than humans

[tardy rain]

what were you talking about

[wise sierra]

AI wont take rest

[dapper dew]

Can you give it a break

[wise sierra]

AI wont degrade

[tardy rain]

aboo pls ban this guy

[ionic isle]

War Thunder, the game 😔

[wise sierra]

okay

[dapper dew]

At this point it is just spam

[wise sierra]

i'm just so scared

[ionic isle]

Cool

[tardy rain]

👍

[wise sierra]

please tell me what will i do in my future

[tardy rain]

go be a beet farmer

[wise sierra]

AI killed my jobs

[jaunty wraith]

that's on you

[ionic isle]

You won't listen to us so why

[low chasm]

tbh shooting civilians and committing war crimes most likely breaks the python discord #code-of-conduct

[jaunty wraith]

debatable

[ionic isle]

Whaaaaaat?

[tardy rain]

apparently civilians are rare in the game

[dapper dew]

And we have told you multiple times to not be, and reasons why, and you have either ignored them or repeated your same "AI WILL TAKE OVER" stance.

[low chasm]

yeah, real surprising 😔

[dapper dew]

So please, lets stop with the AI will replace people discussion

[wise sierra]

just tell me AGI will be noob

[dapper dew]

AGI will be noob

[tardy rain]

AGI will take your job and your wife

[jaunty wraith]

AGI is a long way off

[acoustic moss]

please discuss moderator policy privately before you make such declarations in public

[jaunty wraith]

AGI will be written in Ruby

[low chasm]

my mistake, I'll make sure to discuss war crimes with you first next time, hsp

[acoustic moss]

ear crimes

[jaunty wraith]

ear crimes

[low chasm]

excuse me?

[dapper dew]

!otn a aboo's ear crimes

[royal lake]

:ok_hand: Added aboo’s-ear-crimes to the names list.

[low chasm]

it's a well known fact I don't make typos

[young shoal]

it's not a war crime if it's not officially a war

[wise sierra]

i'm doing cp in c++

[acoustic moss]

did i tell you guys i poked a hole in my eardrum with an earbud when i was like 2

[tardy rain]

ouch

[low chasm]

oh? Circumventing the rules, eh?

[jaunty wraith]

fax

[acoustic moss]

it healed

[low chasm]

whoo

is your eardrum ok

[wise sierra]

can i make all programs of python in c++

[acoustic moss]

ye

[tardy rain]

no

[jaunty wraith]

maybe

[dapper dew]

Ask yourself if you should, before asking if you could

[wise sierra]

why shouldn't i ? c++ is so faster

[ionic isle]

Jeez, there goes all my decisions 😩

[tardy rain]

can you?

[young shoal]

aren't you an AI student?

[young shoal]

yes, theoretically

[signal scroll]

I code in Other languages only if i Care about speed

[wise sierra]

yes, but i'm also a programmer

[tardy rain]

but can he

[signal scroll]

Or if im bored of python

[ionic isle]

I'm starting to feel like this person most certainly isn't in college

[dapper dew]

c++ is faster once it is working right? How long will it take to get there with c++ vs python?

[young shoal]

why do you think machine learning uses python

[signal scroll]

Or if its easier in Other languages

[wise sierra]

same

[wise sierra]

bc it has so many libs

[dapper dew]

You can write equivalent programs in c++ in the same amount of time it takes you to write in python?

[wise sierra]

noobs made so many libs in python

[foggy jungle]

🥴 This is starting to feel circular.

[young shoal]

and those libs are written in?

[wise sierra]

no c++ will be so long to write just once. but after that its so faster

[young shoal]

what about tensorflow? are its authors noobs? it's a library for python

[wise sierra]

slow nooby python

[wise sierra]

why man why

why not c++

[dapper dew]

My point is that it could take much much longer to get to that point with c++, vs making it (and working with it) in python

[ionic isle]

This has to be a troll now

[young shoal]

wrong

[young shoal]

what do you think tensorflow is written in? do you think the authors are noobs?

[wise sierra]

all python devs are noob

[young shoal]

so, even the authors of tensorflow?

[wise sierra]

only c, c++, go, rust is pro

[wise sierra]

he's just a script writer. not even a programmer

[dapper dew]

!timeout 952875383743713331 4h Take a break. We have gone from discussing your nihilistic view of learning to develop in the face of AI to now just trolling about python. This community is here to help, but only if you want it.

[royal lake]

:incoming_envelope: :ok_hand: applied timeout to @wise sierra until <t:1685990728:f> (4 hours).

[young shoal]

it's not a single person, it's a research team. Google's research team, actually

[tardy rain]

lmao, but their google jawb

[young shoal]

ugh Brad, I was so close

[ionic isle]

BuT tHeY aRe RePlAciNg ThEmSeLvEs

[young shoal]

my keeb is arriving today

according to UPS

[ionic isle]

They really do exist...

[foggy jungle]

What flavor of keeb?

[crystal spruce]

starting to conrevolve

[tardy rain]

whats a keeb

[ionic isle]

Oh jeez there's another one

[ionic isle]

Hip new way of saying keyboard

[young shoal]

mint chocolate chip

[low chasm]

based

[ionic isle]

Because it's...4 less letters?

[low chasm]

what keeb?

[foggy jungle]

Mint chocolate chip is based, but that's not exactly what I was asking. 😛

[low chasm]

mariosis you just aren't hip enough

[tardy rain]

😔

[young shoal]

wdym

[tardy rain]

just say kb

smh

[foggy jungle]

You're being deliberately obtuse.

[ionic isle]

Knowledge base?

[young shoal]

kernel board?

[tardy rain]

knowledge based

[young shoal]

did you think I meant keyboard?

[ionic isle]

Lmao

[young shoal]

I bought ice cream

[tardy rain]

KBM but without the M, there ya go

[low chasm]

did you actually

[foggy jungle]

Lying is mean 😦

[low chasm]

are you trolling

banned for trolling

[foggy jungle]

I'm trying to engage you in a conversation about something you brought up.

[ionic isle]

Ice cream delivered by UPS is most certainly liquified, and the liquid drained from the box

[young shoal]

keebler ice cream

[low chasm]

not if it was delivered in a cooler

[young shoal]

nah it'll be fine

[low chasm]

isn't mint chocolate chip sort of mid

[foggy jungle]

No.

Mint Chocolate Chip is firmly in the gigabased category.

[low chasm]

uh, yes

it's not bad

but it's not amazing

[foggy jungle]

Mint and chocolate go together like... peanut butter and jelly.

[ionic isle]

Is this what it's like to realize you're getting old, when everyone around keeps using lingo and you're there thinking "but why?"

[low chasm]

this is true

[foggy jungle]

You hit an age where you decide to embrace it and sound stupid or ignore it and sound out of touch.

[low chasm]

but the flavor is sort of mid with ice cream

[young shoal]

you're mid

[low chasm]

uh, rude

[foggy jungle]

I think rizz is funny.

[young shoal]

the two best flavors are mint chocolate chip and coffee

[ionic isle]

I've definitely become the embrace, as I love to bother my niece

[low chasm]

what, the fact that you don't have any?

[foggy jungle]

...

[young shoal]

rem has L rizz

[foggy jungle]

KP on the verbal beatdown today.

[young shoal]

say something is "goated" to her

[tardy rain]

"goated with the sauce"

[tulip falcon]

How many Rizz points do i get today, oh boy 1 million rizzes, better put my Rizz on private

[low chasm]

it's not you, it's that "keeb" is a fucking terrible shortened name for keebler ice cream

[ionic isle]

No it got me when psv you called mint chocolate "mid" instead of "abysmal"

[young shoal]

what am I supposed to call it

[jaunty wraith]

[low chasm]

hah

[young shoal]

I did no such thing

[low chasm]

keebler ice cream

[ionic isle]

OH jeez chat moved, it was aboo

[young shoal]

that was aboo

[low chasm]

Soul gets it

[young shoal]

why not keeb

[low chasm]

keeb means keyboard

[tulip falcon]

You good? Mint chocolate chip is fire

[low chasm]

it's already taken

[young shoal]

keeb means keebler

[foggy jungle]

PSVM meant keyboard.

[low chasm]

no it doesn't

[foggy jungle]

You guys are all taking the bait.

[ionic isle]

Are you sure you didn't mean this? https://www.tomshardware.com/news/heres-the-scoop-samsung-makes-mint-chocolate-chip-peripherals

[young shoal]

that's kinda cute actually

[ionic isle]

Lol

[young shoal]

I want creamier keycaps

[low chasm]

I'd eat it

[young shoal]

I mean, creamier ice cream

[low chasm]

have you heard of a microwave

[young shoal]

how does that add cream

[dapper dew]

Are you discovering a milkshake right now

[low chasm]

melted = creamer?

[ionic isle]

Well you see... 🤓

[low chasm]

oh yeah, you can stick it into a blender

you can make milkshakes at home, can't you

[young shoal]

oh doesn't that just add air or something

[low chasm]

eh?

[tulip falcon]

They want more mass inside the same ice cream

[low chasm]

it blends the ice cream

[young shoal]

and it puts air in

is ice cream a solid?

[low chasm]

ok sure, it ends up creamier

[low chasm]

depends

[young shoal]

it's like, crystallized right

[low chasm]

is it?

[ionic isle]

Somebody's about to google the chemical composition of ice cream

[young shoal]

I think so

[jaunty wraith]

I sleep wrong ONE time, and my back hurts
what the hell

[young shoal]

old

[jaunty wraith]

shut

[ionic isle]

Wait until you just try to sit up and you suffer 😔

[low chasm]

according to https://cuberule.com I've come to the conclusion that ice cream is a soup

[jaunty wraith]

who made the rule

[low chasm]

imagine

[tulip falcon]

Like "why are my abs hurting"

[tardy rain]

ice cream when in a cone, is a toast

[tulip falcon]

What?

[jaunty wraith]

imagine what

[low chasm]

being old

[tardy rain]

the carbs are on the bottom, so by the cube rule, tis a toast

[jaunty wraith]

shut

[low chasm]

hmm

[young shoal]

the cube rule only concerns starches though what

[low chasm]

oh does it

well whatever

[young shoal]

you can't apply that to non starch things

[tardy rain]

is the cone not a starch

[ionic isle]

Can we appreciate this?

[jaunty wraith]

a pop-tart is a sandwich

[low chasm]

I'm sure in some alternate universe out there ice cream is a rich source of starch

[jaunty wraith]

that's true

[young shoal]

oh cones

[low chasm]

I've unironically never had a pop tart

[jaunty wraith]

uncultured

[ionic isle]

So that's what's wrong with you

[tardy rain]

i'm a cup man, cones are childish

[young shoal]

does ice cream have starch in it

[low chasm]

says you

[jaunty wraith]

yes, says me

[low chasm]

it depends

some ice creams are better in a bowl

[gritty zinc]

i barely know what a pop tart is tbh

[ionic isle]

Mar, let's be honest, are you just too old for the cone?

[dapper dew]

Prasie be

[young shoal]

childish? it's about efficiency. you have to throw out your cup. I don't have to walk anywhere to find a trash can

[low chasm]

think of the environmental impact

[dapper dew]

I love me the cube rule of food https://cuberule.com/

[young shoal]

also the entire ice cream is a carb so it kinda doesn't work

[jaunty wraith]

already linked brad

keep up

[tardy rain]

you have to throw out the paper they give you with the cone so you dont drip all over your pants and look like a dork

[low chasm]

too late, I already linked it 😤

[young shoal]

yeah Brad focus up

[low chasm]

smh

[young shoal]

what are you a nerd? eat faster

[ionic isle]

I haven't heard dork in forever, jeez

[tardy rain]

but my teefs

[jaunty wraith]

dork

[low chasm]

skill issue

power through it

[young shoal]

ah right, UKers teeth

[tardy rain]

😔

[dapper dew]

🩼 omw

[jaunty wraith]

what's wrong with UK teeth?

[young shoal]

there's a meme

[low chasm]

psvm implied that they operate at a lesser rate of ice cream consumption

[tulip falcon]

Their teeth are ill suited for chomping ice cream

[jaunty wraith]

I don't eat icecream at all

[low chasm]

thou art not worthy of thy ice cream

[jaunty wraith]

there are better desserts

[dapper dew]

A bowl of ice cream would be a wet salad

[tulip falcon]

What constitutes a salad? Bowls?

[low chasm]

hrmm

[dapper dew]

The lack of starch

[low chasm]

existence of subjectively better desserts does not imply the inferiority of ice cream

[young shoal]

kinda does, by definition

the argument you want to make is that even though inferior, they aren't necessarily bad to have

[low chasm]

yeah that

[young shoal]

variety is the spice of life, or something

[quick ledge]

my non-existent respect for you has dropped even further

[jaunty wraith]

idc

[low chasm]

smh moyen

[tulip falcon]

Which desserts are subjectively better? Ice cream is in one of the highest tiers

[low chasm]

vivek is disappointed in you

[jaunty wraith]

indian desserts