wdym?
#ot1-perplexing-regexing
young shoal
high haven
you can always clean up your notebooks after exploratory phase
rugged owl
wdym?
Long story.
Short version is: Server python version got updated & missing packages. Almost 1 week trying to get it solved.
high haven
or clean as you go
rugged owl
NOT EVEN MY CODE 
high haven
thats the true tragedy
why do you have to fix it then
wheres the person that wrote it
did they leave
young shoal
Long story.
Short version is: Server python version got updated & missing packa...
why aren't you using poetry or pipenv or a requirements.txt
high haven
wait is this one of those
rugged owl
did they leave
rugged owl
deploying notebooks into production
high haven
i mean you already know about my SWE friend who also has to deal with this
who is also in insurance lol
trying to wrangle DS and their notebooks
rugged owl
It's my monthly task to run this MF script on BOTH my local machine AND the server because there's no easy way to pass data from data lake & s3 buckets to local due to governance. 
high haven
hes lucky though that like 1 out of 10 DS from each team leans more on the SWE side
so they can help deploy models
jk
who said that
young shoal
data engineer, more like data losers
rugged owl
"Did anyone try automating this" was the first thing I asked when the script was handed to me. 
One thing I miss from start up, is having my own VM.
high haven
It's my monthly task to run this MF script on BOTH my local machine AND the serv...
wait wait i have a numbered list for you
high haven
It's my monthly task to run this MF script on BOTH my local machine AND the serv...
hmm this is kinda you at the moment
which number is you rn?
young shoal
he looks like andrew tate
rugged owl
Isn't data engineering team meant to write tests...
high haven
i believe hes referring to unit tests on the data producer side
not data quality tests before and after pipelines
foggy jungle
he looks like andrew tate
His full name is Chad SandersQL
You guys say sequel right? Not Ess-Queue-Ell?
Just want to make sure I'm not interacting with heathens.
high haven
You guys say sequel right? Not Ess-Queue-Ell?
some people apparently say squirrel
ionic moth
it's the other way around
foggy jungle
The uirre is silent apparently.
rugged owl
You guys say sequel right? Not Ess-Queue-Ell?
Trying to start WW3? 
high haven
The uirre is silent apparently.
ok that one made me die a little
foggy jungle
This isn't a 'this or that' scenario.
Either you pronounce it sequel or you're wrong.
ionic moth
L
young shoal
Either you pronounce it sequel or you're wrong.
tf?
did you get knocked in the head in the military
foggy jungle
Many, MANY times.
young shoal
too many crayons?
young shoal
But I don't think that's related.
definitely related
ionic moth
guys
foggy jungle
😤 SWE need not apply to this argument.
rugged owl
This isn't a 'this or that' scenario.
young shoal
😤 SWE need not apply to this argument.
you're literally unemployed
ionic moth
how do I go about deploying a VoIP server
foggy jungle
I just accepted my internship, it counts 
How's your internship application process going? 
ionic moth
I just accepted my internship, it counts <:PepeHands:643134675707232276>
where?
rugged owl
Until you graduate
high haven
sequel >
rugged owl
then you become unemployed
ionic moth
dont know about them
young shoal
i've got 3 years 😔
young shoal
damn, rex exposed as a boomer
high haven
damn, rex exposed as a boomer
bro everyone in data world says sequel. have you even taken your database class yet
young shoal
i don't need one, i'm just that good
rugged owl
LOL
young shoal
bruh you can't react to your own message
foggy jungle
bruh you can't react to your own message
It's boomer shit.
young shoal
sez u
high haven
i cant?
young shoal
banned
foggy jungle
lament cairn
You guys say sequel right? Not Ess-Queue-Ell?
bro
tardy rain
Squeal
high haven
ok got off work
lets start here
how much spotify do i listen to? well lets check last years unwrapped
how much of that time do i spend on podcasts 🎙️
65%
thats quite a lot
almost all of the podcasts i listen to relate to either data or ML or AI
software engineering and coding and such is a close 2nd category
out of ALL these podcasts, do you know how many peeps say sequel vs. "es-que-el?"
i rest my case
rugged owl
out of ALL these podcasts, do you know how many peeps say sequel vs. "es-que-el?...
POSERS 
rugged owl
The real question is how many ads did you listen to.
high haven
for outside ads, none since i have premium.
for the in-built ads, i just double tap my earbuds to skip them.
high haven
true flax
Matrix result = new Matrix(NUM_FEATURE_SETS, input.rows - KERNAL_SIZE + 1, input.cols - KERNAL_SIZE + 1);
for(int i = 0; i < input.z; i++){
Double[] featureMap = new Double[(input.rows - KERNAL_SIZE + 1) * (input.rows - KERNAL_SIZE + 1)];
for(int j = 0; j < NUM_FEATURE_SETS; j++){
Double[] temp = Matrix.simpleCov(input.matrix[i], kernals[j].matrix[0]);
for(int k = 0; k < featureMap.length; k++){
featureMap[k] += temp[k];
}
for(int k = 0; k < featureMap.length; k++){
featureMap[k] /= temp[k];
}
}
result.matrix[i] = featureMap;
}
return result;``` anyone mind checking this?its suppose to be the forward of a convolution layer
Matrix.matrix is a Double[][] represneting [num images][flattened image]
high haven
true flax
pls
ashen ridge
@gaunt basalt Just disengage mate. Don't waste time with people like that
gaunt basalt
aight
past cosmos
int main()
{
int isInteger;
do
{
std::cout << "Write a list of numbers for me to process (Seperate with a space): ";
std::string nums;
std::cout << "hi";
std::getline(std::cin, nums); //https://www.grepper.com/answers/38705/c%2B%2B+wait+for+user+input?ucard=1sgth
isInteger = isInt(nums, nums.length());
std::cout << '\n#######################';
} while (isInteger != 0);
}
So apparently the program isn't executing the std:cout << "hi"; before looping to the next iteration and I have no idea why or how to fix this
young shoal
buffering, probably
acoustic moss
oh yea the quotes
rough sapphire
yes, in C++ u need to use "" for strings
the same with C. '' is used for char
jaunty wraith
it's a different emoji
acoustic moss
actually left lol
harsh tundra
I just wanna post that I'm playing with rhinestones. Annoying little shits (3mm), but look awesome when you manage to put them where you want them
rough sapphire
GPT-4 is truly insane
gritty kernel
what is this reddit UI bruh
heavy pawn
Copying YouTube
small coral
what is this reddit UI bruh
looks like some sort of twitter thingy ngl
hidden pebble
what is this reddit UI bruh
don't worry there's always https://old.reddit.com/
stable fulcrum
don't worry there's always https://old.reddit.com/
didn't know that
gritty zinc
don't worry there's always https://old.reddit.com/
stable fulcrum
what is this reddit UI bruh
tho how you got that ui
glossy dust
yes
honest star
So ChatGPT isn't meant to code. It's meant to be very conversational with people, it's a chatbot.
Also, AI in general isn't at the point where it can extrapolate beyond a given prompt. More importantly, it doesn't know when to ask for more information or to pushback on a given prompt. In the workplace, programmers don't blindly implement tasks. They'll think things through, ask questions, design a system, pushback a bit if they think something is unreasonable or too vague to do.
Programmers are problem solvers that use code as a tool, not necessarily code monkeys. That's the primary difference maker there.
They might certainly incorporate AI tools, but it won't ever totally replace people doing actual, technical work
glossy dust
won't chat gbt help programmers to the extent that less are needed and then alot lose jobs
tardy rain
I dont see how thats helping
honest star
won't chat gbt help programmers to the extent that less are needed and then alot...
That's the thing, there will always be more work to do and more things to make. At least that's how it's turned out with the past couple of big technological/industrial innovations. What the jobs specifically are might shift, but that's kind of a given
glossy dust
oh ok thank you for explaining I got worried
honest star
I don't see programmers being phased out. It's too integral to our current society
high haven
They might certainly incorporate AI tools, but it won't ever totally replace peo...
wish we could pin this in #career-advice
carmine apex
there's also the pending question whether chatgpt is even legal, and the use of it without attribution is flatly forbidden by OpenAI's terms of service
honest star
haha, I would want to bikeshed the wording a bit before pinning that
wraith hound
and also, ChatGPT is a language model. i don't doubt at all that AI will help programmers, and potentially replace certain classes of jobs, but i don't think ChatGPT will be what does so.
honest star
Use a resource to learn the basics and then make things!
glossy dust
can u give me a good resource
honest star
I like Byte of Python: https://python.swaroopch.com/
carmine apex
I like Byte of Python: <https://python.swaroopch.com/>
specific recommendations are usually that or "Automate the Boring Stuff"
tardy rain
I sure hope gpt gets better to the point where its usable, right now even for the simplest css issues i'd have to feed it tons of files in the include chain for it to have context to answer
high haven
haha, I would want to bikeshed the wording a bit before pinning that
i will wait but if i have to go through another 6+ months of "im not going into programming bc AI is going to take over all programmer jobs" in #career-advice ...
im going to flip some tables
tardy rain
Or maybe its just the way the company fucked up with project structures
high haven
carmine apex
there's a tag for that actually (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
high haven
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
tardy rain
i will wait but if i have to go through another 6+ months of "im not going into ...
I see that as potential competition voluntarily taking itself out of the market
glossy dust
with chat gbt if I just plug in all the code and the error and say fix it will it work
high haven
I see that as potential competition voluntarily taking itself out of the market
theyre only hurting themselves imo
honest star
i will wait but if i have to go through another 6+ months of "im not going into ...
If you want to try your hand at crafting a nice message summing things up, I'll be happy to pin it
high haven
no wait you dont want me copyediting anything
tardy rain
with chat gbt if I just plug in all the code and the error and say fix it will i...
Try it and see
But try it with a fairly complex realistic problem, tons of tech debt in the code, shitty shell scripts to run things, terrible CI, no tests, etc
You know, enterprise style coding
carmine apex
having a !chatgpt would be wonderful in general, especially during the current time of not being codified as against the rules
glossy dust
Try it and see
But try it with a fairly complex realistic problem, tons of tech ...
idk what this means I just follow the YouTube videos
high haven
Try it and see
But try it with a fairly complex realistic problem, tons of tech ...
bro thats too realistic omg
tardy rain
idk what this means I just follow the YouTube videos
It means, it would probably solve the problems that are common and well documented and everyone and their dog has solved already and theres tons of pages about them
But not the problems that matter
glossy dust
oh I understand
honest star
i also think you would say it nicer. im too mean
lmfao, my reputation on this server apparently oscillates between "super nice and sweet" and "holy shit what a power tripping dick of a mod". But you can use what I have above as a base, but I can also take a stab at it tomorrow
glossy dust
or I could make a programmer do it for me instantly
tardy rain
bro thats too realistic omg
tfw i gotta run a bajillion functions whenever i ssh into the dev machine or else my env is borked and nothing runs
But "if it works™"
glossy dust
- eshannnn
high haven
lmfao, my reputation on this server apparently oscillates between "super nice an...
cool cool cool 
honest star
But time to make a booze run ✨ I've successfully steered pygen back on topic
tardy rain
It doesnt and i hate it and it almost makes me cry every day, tears of fury
glossy dust
@honest star with that thing u sent me how am I supposed to remember all of it
and like apply it
honest star
<@212644551926611969> with that thing u sent me how am I supposed to remember al...
You won't memorize everything from the start. But as you code more and look things up, you'll naturally remember more and more of it.
glossy dust
so I should look things up as I'm making stuff?
honest star
so I should look things up as I'm making stuff?
Yup! That's totally normally and how you learn
glossy dust
alright thank you
frozen crane
@deep terrace what was the context for this otn
carmine apex
<@188467763558350849> what was the context for this otn
discord search for an otn name prevails, for once
it seems you were the one that did it: #data-science-and-ml message
also why is your word cloud about doom
foggy jungle
frozen crane
discord search for an otn name prevails, for once
it seems you were the one tha...
I thought it was me
high haven
I thought it was me
imagine having an otn
jk
i dont want one unless it has to do with coffee
drowsy rose
lament cairn
Yall rate my neofetch
gritty kernel
wtf
acoustic moss
lmao
grave cove
based
carmine apex
took me longer than it should have to figured out why you posted the flag of the canary islands, @jaunty wraith
jaunty wraith
I see
carmine apex
tis a shame there's no (proper) emoji for that
flint basin
@gilded cloud how is Rust not easy to read?
gilded cloud
<@528704235630493716> how is Rust not easy to read?
this language is super hard in general, u know the syntax has some haskell inspiration right
flint basin
ok, that doesn't mean it is unreadable
gilded cloud
i know there's good things in rust but stop saying it's easy -_-
gilded cloud
C# is readable yea
gilded cloud
idk if rust is more C++/Haskell mix or C#/Haskell mix
solemn tulip
i know there's good things in rust but stop saying it's easy -_-
I don't think anyone said it's an easy language
but it's hard to write some memory errors that are very easy to write in languages like C
gilded cloud
in one day ?
mental isle
not a lifetime if you have enough free time on your hands (and good tactics of learning, ofc) (ah, yes, also a brain)
gilded cloud
python is easy but there's a huge amount of builtin stuff even if everything is easy
c/c++ just have a few keywords but they take a huge amount of time to know correctly
both take some time
mental isle
python is easy but there's a huge amount of builtin stuff even if everything is ...
never get foolded by the amount of keywords you have. asm has a bajillion instructions but....
gilded cloud
never get foolded by the amount of keywords you have. asm has a bajillion instru...
it doesnt ?
tardy rain
Are you serious?
flint basin
never get foolded by the amount of keywords you have. asm has a bajillion instru...
im not sure how that argument fits in
assembly has to have tons of instruction
mental isle
that's not an argument
gilded cloud
c# is still pretty high level i would say
mental isle
assembly has to have tons of instruction
nobody said it doesn't have to, idk what you're implying here
tranquil iron
understanding is not binary. it is a matter of degree.
tropic lichen
python is easy but there's a huge amount of builtin stuff even if everything is ...
There's not a huge amount of builtin stuff, unless you're on about the standard library, in which case I wanna point towards the C/C++ standard library and STL
tardy rain
What have you built in python in the one day you tried learning it
flint basin
nobody said it doesn't have to, idk what you're implying here
apologies, i misinterpreted what you said
mental isle
it's okay no worries
tardy rain
Learning is hard, being aware of a language and a couple keywords isnt learning
mental isle
the most important thing, if you're self-taught, is to never be lazy to google. if you think "there must be a better way to do this", then GOOGLE IT. If you can't find it on google then ask it in some chatroom
jaunty wraith
I wish I knew about chatrooms when I was getting started
tranquil iron
there was bbs's and usenet back in the day
tropic lichen
don't be silly, no one uses chatrooms anymor-
oh wait, that's what discord is. 😨
solemn tulip
and good old irc
tranquil iron
also compuserve, AOL, etc
jaunty wraith
there was bbs's and usenet back in the day
well, I didn't know much
jaunty wraith
I didn't exist then
flint basin
same
mental isle
*don't be silly, no one uses chatrooms anymor-*
oh wait, that's what discord is....
I use that word to generalize Discord-like chatting places
acoustic moss
zoomers
tropic lichen
I only caught the very end of IRC's popularity, I kinda just appreciate what a simple system it was
crystal spruce
the most important thing, if you're self-taught, is to never be lazy to google. ...
one thing I would add to this is that you should always attempt a problem yourself before going to Google
I know many people who just see a difficult problem and give up immediately when once you sit down and look at it without all the intimidating details it's actually quite straightforward
ofc there is also the risk of wasting your time trying to solve a problem you won't get, so a balance is good as well
flint basin
yeah im single
jaunty wraith
shingles?
tranquil iron
what does that even mean?
crystal spruce
I think I use double prec
tropic lichen
not all programmers conform to the singleton pattern
tranquil iron
why would that be?
jaunty wraith
seems like a blanket statement
tardy rain
just dont be a nerd then
jaunty wraith
which are almost all of the time untrue
tranquil iron
that just means you're hanging out with the wrong crowd. trust me, when you're making $120k or $180k or $240k, if you hang out with the "right" crowd, the girls will flock to you
crystal spruce
on a serious note it's not true
pretty sure there's people here in this discord that are married
jaunty wraith
lies
tranquil iron
and they won't really care if you can talk to them or not
solemn tulip
that just means you're hanging out with the wrong crowd. trust me, when you're ...
for all the right reasons, clearly 👀
tranquil iron
for all the right reasons, clearly 👀
lol, different strokes for different folks, man. who am I to judge?
I mean, historically marriage was mostly about economics. don't really see why that reason is so frowned upon today.
flint basin
cuz people became gold diggers
tranquil iron
cuz people became gold diggers
and that's a problem how?
mental isle
morally
flint basin
im talking about the ones that solely got into a relationship because of money. no connection or anything like that
tranquil iron
why is it morally a problem? who are you to judge someone else's motivations for what they want out of a relationship?
flint basin
why is it morally a problem? who are you to judge someone else's motivations fo...
but it jsut isn't right
tranquil iron
so culturally insensitive
solemn tulip
I don't think it's a moral issue
mental isle
why is it morally a problem? who are you to judge someone else's motivations fo...
sure, they can do whatever they want to their life, but if a person actually lives with whomever they actually love, they will be a million times happier. after all, we live only once
tranquil iron
understand that real cultural differences are about what is right and wrong. don't mistake the trappings of culture (food, dress, arts, etc) for the underlying foundations of culture.
tropic lichen
a loveless relationship doesn't sound like something that many people should really be wishing for, but hey, its a free world 🤷
mental isle
that's what I'm implying too
tranquil iron
sure, they can do whatever they want to their life, but if a person actually liv...
why are you guys so sure that someone can't love their partner for providing them security and a good life?
all I'm saying is to not be so narrow minded. don't restrict yourself to what your culture tells you is acceptable parameters for a relationship
mental isle
I don't want to keep talking about this because we clearly have different opinions
and we won't be able to change each other's opinions
so there's no point
tranquil iron
I don't actually have an opinion on it, per se. I'm just trying to get ya'll to open your minds a bit 🙂
tropic lichen
security and a good life is a bit more nuanced than just "money", which is what it seemed like you were implying
mental isle
lmao
tranquil iron
that's what money is though. is that any less shallow than being attracted to someone because they're "hot"?
jaunty wraith
as in, getting people to open their brains
tranquil iron
https://tenor.com/view/school-brain-teacher-nothing-learning-gif-17294659
lol, that animation is great
mental isle
Well, I guess there's no "objective right" in this situation. That's why I don't want to argue about this
solemn tulip
that's what money is though. is that any less shallow than being attracted to s...
it's not, but basing relationships on a single parameter is sketchy at best in general 
tranquil iron
it's not, but basing relationships on a single parameter is sketchy at best in g...
the rest can often be developed if both partners are willing
tropic lichen
that's what money is though. is that any less shallow than being attracted to s...
as a sole reason yeah, that sounds pretty shallow by definition, if the only quality you're looking for in a partner is the number of figures in their salary, or simply what they look like
tranquil iron
but is either a problem for initial interest? is one better than the other?
mental isle
If money is enough to make you happy, then sure, I guess go with it...
But money doesn't buy happiness for a lot of people
tranquil iron
But money doesn't buy happiness for a lot of people
true, but no money often leads to unhappiness
in fact, the #1 reason for divorce is "money problems"
mental isle
It's not only "no money" or "lots of money" tho
tranquil iron
of course, I think we both know that
I think we have come to agreement that there's no 100% rules. All I was suggesting was that if you have a hard time approaching women, you might want to hang in places where women will approach you instead because of your strengths.
tropic lichen
but is either a problem for initial interest? is one better than the other?
initial interest sure, but if you haven't found any other qualities you like in your partner before you decide to become a couple, then both are equally shallow in my opinion
tranquil iron
you can't select on other qualities until you have choices to select from
tropic lichen
wdym?
tranquil iron
wdym?
the entire thread started because someone was bemoaning that they had a difficult time approaching women and seemed afraid of staying single forever.
solemn tulip
(I was happy to leave it at the single precision float joke :^)
jaunty wraith
when we move on to 128 bits, will we have quadruple precision?
tropic lichen
yeah I remember that, I suppose I just disagree with the idea that having a big paycheck is enough to attract the sort of woman that you'd wanna be with for a long time
but whatever works for you works for you 🤷
flint basin
i love how this started with a rust argument
solemn tulip
memory safety to financial safety
jaunty wraith
pretty sure it just started from this
tropic lichen
its like buddhism, you have to give up all of your material possessions in order to become a true programmer
including women
solemn tulip
at least that's the stereotype 🤷
tranquil iron
lol
solemn tulip
(and stereotypes have a tendency to reinforce themselves)
tranquil iron
it's only because so many programmer types are unwilling to challenge cultural norms
that's my theory and I'm sticking to it
solemn tulip
"the real world is dumb, unpredictable and complex, at least computers are predictable"
waxen gulch
Hello, I have a very simple problem and its solution is very complicated, which is the black line of the xbox Game Bar. It appears to me as a black line and never goes away. I tried various ways to try to remove it. I did a reset of the program and corrected the errors and did nothing. The result. Can any of you help me? I will be Very thankful to him
jovial oriole
the entire thread started because someone was bemoaning that they had a difficul...
Well they are on a software engineering server
Works even better than abstinence
harsh tundra
"money doesn't buy happiness" was originally a saying about how accumulating wealth doesn't bring more happiness. Not about how money is irrelevant at all
Anyways, I just came here. My 3yo nibling tired me out when trying to put them to a nap... which they originally wanted.
jaunty wraith
what's a nibling?
harsh tundra
Neutral word for nephew/niece. N- from that + sibling.
waxen gulch
Hello, I have a very simple problem and its solution is very complicated, which ...
?????
solemn tulip
what's a nibling?
(sounds like a snack)
frozen crane
@jaunty wraith why the canary island flag
(which is a great flag imo)
🇮🇨
it's like vertical ukraine but with white and doggos.
acoustic moss
<@337966455796662282> why the canary island flag
ic -> i see
jaunty wraith
ic -> i see
yep
frozen crane
do you like the doggos though
frozen crane
doggos discussing the crown
they're actually trying to get
jaunty wraith
but you see, they're genteldogly discussing who gets it
frozen crane
oh okay. great!
frozen coral
(which is a great flag imo)
Ah, so you agree flags with solid colours + a centered complex element are good?
frozen crane
Ah, so you agree flags with solid colours + a centered complex element are good?
the "centered complex element" should be simple enough that you can memorize all the elements with only a few seconds of exposure.
frozen coral
the "centered complex element" should be simple enough that you can memorize all...
agree
frozen crane
I thought you were going to bait me into saying that I like US state flags
like this crap
frozen coral
lol
jaunty wraith
chaos
frozen crane
most of them are "blue with complicated thing in center"
this map isn't update for Utah though
solemn tulip
shoutout to new mexico for actually being good
jaunty wraith
maryland as well
frozen coral
lol that ohio flag
frozen crane
the DC one is the best 😛
arizona is pretty okay. the symbolism for the hawaii one is weird.
solemn tulip
alaska is actually nice
jaunty wraith
which one's the Nepal looking flag
frozen crane
alaska is actually nice
it would be hard to discern the elements on a non-windy day
frozen coral
Ohio
carmine apex
i always confuse the flags of DC and chicago, probably because half of tv shows take place in one of those those two cities
frozen crane
ohio doing its own thing with not being rectangular
jaunty wraith
that's a great idea
frozen crane
i always confuse the flags of DC and chicago, probably because half of tv shows ...
they're similar for sure
jaunty wraith
stel, do you just have these flags ready to post?
frozen crane
only in the sense that google images exists.
mississippi changed their flag a few years ago to not be racist, and someone who graduated from the same university as me (not in mississippi) proposed this crap
grave cove
mississippi moment
solemn tulip
small details, text on flag 😔
jaunty wraith
complicated flower aside, in god we trust is so weird on a flag
frozen crane
it's too graphic-designy
frozen crane
complicated flower aside, in god we trust is so weird on a flag
when the mississippi legislature voted to change the flag, one of the concessions was that the new one had to have "in god we trust" on it.
jaunty wraith
set up for failure, I see
frozen crane
yes
jaunty wraith
damn, that looks cool
rough sapphire
thanks ❤️ , its for a game jam
jaunty wraith
pyweek?
jaunty wraith
interesting!
solemn tulip
well, i got some potats walking around :p
tater trod
jaunty wraith
has anyone used a http://hdrhistogram.org/?
kinda don't understand how it does what it does
gritty kernel
<@446424248479645706> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2QC6VQXo8U
wouldn't that be similar to a vim competition
foggy jungle
🤷♂️
gritty kernel
like a speedrun to complete a certain task or something
foggy jungle
It's like speedrunning analytics
But my instant reaction upon seeing it was "why in the world would you not use python"
so you guys have sufficiently ruined me.
vale raven
so you guys have sufficiently ruined me.
our work here is done
high haven
Excel esports <:pithink:652247559909277706>
old school news. how many data podcasts do you think i listen to
foggy jungle
hold on I'm deobfuscating malware again
high haven
do i have to pull up my spotify unwrapped again
is it sad that i listen to more podcasts than music?
probably
also what do you think the finance excel bros do?
i—
jk
foggy jungle
!paste
royal lakeBOT
high haven
<@446424248479645706> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2QC6VQXo8U
lmao why did they share the same keyboard + mouse
anyway
foggy jungle
what are you pasting
Malware, I just never remember the link.
high haven
clippy 2.0 will do all the obscure excel stuff for us
in the future
https://blogs.microsoft.com/blog/2023/03/16/introducing-microsoft-365-copilot-your-copilot-for-work/
lament cairn
what do you do when you have no idea what to make/do
grand laurel
has there been news about chat gpt like bots available for business solution? some businesses are concerned with privacy and refuse to use chat gpt and i was wondering if there's business purpose chat gpt where records will be saved per company owned storage...
high haven
what do you do when you have no idea what to make/do
dunno. any new tech you interested in trying out
high haven
im interested in giving this a whirl
apparently its next under the hood
also allows you to wrap up react components
sidenote: ive been digging this grey version of github
dark dimmed
tardy rain
Taking the jobs of hard working frontend devs
This is what you gotta be worried about, not chatgpt
high haven
Taking the jobs of hard working frontend devs
mar
yknow this framework was featured in the gpt 4 demo
tardy rain
Pynecone?
high haven
yeah
high haven
dunno
but frontend devs probably will run into the edges of this framework easily
like
i dont think theres much media support
i wanted to port my podcast helper app over
but no audio support
🕯️
but its good for idk
maybe a portfolio website
probs not scalable i dont think
but i would need a web dev to actually comment
instead of making hypotheses like me
tardy rain
Lol
Something about python syntax makes it feel ugly in the context of web dev
The frontend part anyway
def index():
return pc.hstack(
pc.button(
"Decrement",
color_scheme="red",
border_radius="1em",
on_click=State.decrement,
),
pc.heading(State.count, font_size="2em"),
pc.button(
"Increment",
color_scheme="green",
border_radius="1em",
on_click=State.increment,
),
)
This is just gross
acoustic moss
blasphemy
high haven
```py
def index():
return pc.hstack(
pc.button(
"Decreme...
honestly i saw that
and i feel that
like why cant i abstract all this away
or there has to be a better way idk
tardy rain
Not enough operator overload
royal lakeBOT
tardy rain
I guess its not a pypi thing
high haven
Anvil?
oh i tried that one
that one is def horrible
but its usable for very specific use cases
this pynecone is def two steps up from that one i would say
tardy rain
I need to find something to build with stuff like this
high haven
for me, i want to recreate a chat ui
for the new gpt 4 API
i think its easier to build something if you have a use case for yourself too
bc you know your own requirements or whatever
lament cairn
id love to try out frontend dev (pynecone/whatever doesnt count) but it seems like a gigantic mess
grave cove
nextjs is pretty cool
lament cairn
can i get started with just npm run or whatever or do i have to figure out webpack
grave cove
can i get started with just ``npm run`` or whatever or do i have to figure out w...
Next.js?
lament cairn
yea
lament cairn
ok that is excellent
grave cove
rugged trellis
I think something is wrong with my pc
young shoal
bruh
rugged trellis
(thats in its lifetime)
spare oriole
what's its lifetime?
high haven
Im a useless lump with no needs
do you listen to a lot of podcasts? you could also make a podcast helper app
tardy rain
I dont but i should
My spotify going unused
Could build some feed aggregator but the problem then becomes finding decent feeds instead
high haven
i mean i just listen to podcasts bc im lowkey addicted
you just need to find a good one
then youll pick up on related ones
like idk if youre into architecture
theres 99% invisible
everyone loves the true crime podcasts
but im like no thanks
no psychoanalyzing for me
what are your interests bud?
foggy jungle
!paste
royal lakeBOT
foggy jungle
I'm having an uncool time gamers.
foggy jungle
this is obfuscated, obfuscated, and obfuscated again.
grave cove
this is obfuscated, obfuscated, and obfuscated again.
riddle me this
what did you do all day today
foggy jungle
Woke up at about 1:30pm with a migraine, went to Panera, deobfuscated this, played some D4, deobfuscated this some more... and now we're here
grave cove
fucking nerd
foggy jungle
😦
foggy jungle
Why don't you help us since you didn't do any pico 😛
high haven
Woke up at about 1:30pm with a migraine, went to Panera, deobfuscated this, play...
aww sorry about that bud
grave cove
Ooh, writeup? What's this?
foggy jungle
Standby, it's on a private repo since I'm not allowed to share outside the team
foggy jungle
hope you feeling better
thank you 
grave cove
My interest is piqued
foggy jungle
what's your GH?
grave cove
Robin5605
foggy jungle
added
high haven
oh hey
you finally changed your name
i just realized
lmao
im glad
it was lowkey stressing me out
foggy jungle
I need to fix the images in the markdown still.
Special, Specialer, and SOAP are pretty cool and I solved them in (I think) neat ways.
grave cove
@foggy jungle this is actually pretty cool
grave cove
What did they do? 👀
foggy jungle
Just obfuscated some pretty crazy code
err deobfuscated
in a manner that... I aspire to. lol
grave cove
Stickie is pretty based
high haven
@tardy rain bro i dont think i have the patience for web dev. im already tired of this lol
tardy rain
Are you trying out pynecone
foggy jungle
Checking to make sure malware devs aren't active on pydis
Be spooked if it ever actually pings someone lol
vale raven
Hello who pinged???
foggy jungle
grave cove
caught lackin
high haven
crystal spruce
in a manner that... I aspire to. lol
I just copied and pasted stuff into python console and then pasted it back in
and then eventually compressed the program down to like the 4 lines it actually was
grave cove
this reminds me of when i have to fix the tv for my grandparents
crystal spruce
I will say pycharm variable refactoring helps a lot
just turns the underscores into actually readable stuff
foggy jungle
that's what I was doing with what I sent in SOC
Just clearing up the B64 obfuscation.
If the creator is in here reading this, 
foggy jungle
I knew that already, though I'm not sure why.
high haven
hidden within
the depths of your mind database
anyway
pynecone is a nice toy framework
foggy jungle
DROP TABLE python;```pretty sure it would be a nightmare to build anything big on
grave cove
Pretty much the state of most Python front ends atm
grave cove
JS Is not bad if you use TS
high haven
ah i dont have a typescript emoji
grave cove
thin cloak
just learn js
Necessary evil
high haven
Necessary evil
my friends and i were talking today about how
js + python can get you pretty far
as a good generalist
thin cloak
Ye...add SQL too
thin cloak
Like that
tardy rain
js + python can get you pretty far
It depends on the location
As a programmer you'd probably be ok knowing these two and surrounding tech but i kind of struggled to find a python backend using company in london
Mfs love dotnet here
lusty rune
Mfs love dotnet here
fr same in india and uae 🗿
mystic isle
pynecone is a nice toy framework
I kinda made a framework like that
(hit 12k recently)
high haven
Mfs love dotnet here
yeah lots of places love dotnet. most of my companies devs are dotnet devs. theres only like 3 devs that do python lol
mystic isle
!pypi Lemon-Library
royal lakeBOT
high haven
(hit 12k recently)
grats
high haven
yeah lots of places love dotnet. most of my companies devs are dotnet devs. ther...
but like do i really want to do dotnet?
no
tardy rain
don'tnet
tardy rain
Uh idk about that especially in the context of fintech
high haven
oh yeah besides them
tardy rain
Glassdoor is being a bitch
young shoal
@tardy rain is tomato a fruit
tardy rain
Yes
young shoal
then I'm a tomato
young shoal
why is a tomato basic
tardy rain
It goes on pizza and anything that goes on pizza is basic and for the masses
Pizza sucks
A true controversial opinion
young shoal
oh. I haven't even taken into account derivative products
tardy rain
Also what kind of tomato theres a bajillion
strange dove
do any of you know javascript?
young shoal
no
tardy rain
Cherry, salad, plum, heirloom, etc
lament cairn
na
young shoal
Also what kind of tomato theres a bajillion
idfk? I'm applying for dev, not tomatology
tardy rain
Lmao
Teams want a well rounded dev that knows exactly what the fuck kinda fruit they are, denied
young shoal
😳
tardy rain
Goes in cakes, breads, milk shakes, lots of things
Dominant flavour, outshines other fruits
young shoal
oh? doesn't listen to others well? denied
tardy rain
Versatile, strong, team player but also independent,
Satisfying shape for gripping
Certified primate favourite
(and so am I)
young shoal
I think I have too much analysis paralysis all the time
tardy rain
do any of you know javascript?
Just ask
strange dove
I code my bot in Javascript to autorole and a welcome msg. The welcome msg is working but the auto role is not. here is my code for anyone would like to help https://paste.pythondiscord.com/eqitizenip .
tardy rain
Errors?
strange dove
no errors shown on console
young shoal
indeed
high haven
for now
young shoal
ugh. power cycling killed all my tabs
young shoal
yeah? wanna pay for it?
you think it would be fine if I go to the association for computing machinery - women, meeting. it's interview practice. for context, I am not a women
lusty rune
tomato is a fruit
tomato is a vegetable
high haven
yeah? wanna pay for it?
lol only if it was a chromebook
high haven
you think it would be fine if I go to the association for computing machinery - ...
yeah its fine as long as you arent a prick
i went to whats it called
society for women engineers for a bit
and im also not a woman
young shoal
cool. I don't want to like, infringe or something
high haven
yeah just dont be a prick lol
young shoal
though maybe your opinion is not as relevant
young shoal
maybe I should just email and ask. but EAFP, lol
high haven
yeah just go dude
you wont be the only guy
probably
at least thats how it was for me
young shoal
oh well
as long as I don't embarrass myself wrt interview skills I think I'll be fine
high haven
ye ye
young shoal
it's "coding and behavioral and interview questions", but I don't think that second and is meant to be there
young shoal
no but the meaning is different
young shoal
indeed
young shoal
there's no fixing lol
high haven
you sure its not a driver issue
young shoal
just need to last 5 weeks to the end of the semester
young shoal
you sure its not a driver issue
yes. pressing on the places the bottom connects with the screen occasionally fixes it
tardy rain
Lol
young shoal
going to mail my coding assignments
but actually we do have a computer lab I could use
tardy rain
Compile your school java homework by hand
high haven
but actually we do have a computer lab I could use
use the computer lab
its there for a reason
maybe make a friend or two
jk
thats what i would do
you can ignore me
young shoal
use the computer lab
but my development environment 😭
young shoal
I mean to be fair, the computers have vim so it's not far off
if I wanted to I could enable password auth on my desktop and use that, but 🥴🥴
tardy rain
tfw some guy isnt responding to me so i gotta message his boss about it and the boss isnt responding either
So now im stuck with texting people's bosses
lament cairn
become the boss
tardy rain
Im only a couple steps from the CEO, you think he'll get back to me?
tardy rain
Its 14:20 💀
clear acorn
Compile your school java homework by hand
I prefer binary
tranquil iron
binary is so 20th century man, we should graduate to trinary
young shoal
binary is so 20th century man, we should graduate to trinary
I think they call it ternary
tardy rain
threenary
tranquil iron
ok, thanks for the correction
young shoal
bowing to the man
tardy rain
How else would a wagie taste adrenaline
young shoal
become the man
tardy rain
Thats for longer term
Short term is another significant pay bump
Like 1-3 years maybe
tranquil iron
I will look for MC to grow into one of the largest consulting firms in the world. and for the "Big 5" to turn into the "Big 6"
tardy rain
ngl consulting sounds scary
Im too small fry for that kind of stuff
Besides eivl do we know anyone else that does consulting
Tagging might get more responses than asking generally in #career-advice
young shoal
I will look for MC to grow into one of the largest consulting firms in the world...
it'll grow so big, there won't be a big 5
tranquil iron
now that's the sort of ambition I can respect!
high haven
@rugged owl from your favorite linkedin poser. jk, from mine. https://www.linkedin.com/posts/mikikobazeley_datascience-datascience-mlops-activity-7043597053293142017-QO2l
rugged owl
<@287800670441046018> from your favorite linkedin poser. jk, from mine. https://...
My manager's asking me to write up a roadmap for one of the model implementations. 
high haven
My manager's asking me to write up a roadmap for one of the model implementation...
a roadmap? sounds product-y
what do they even mean
like 'what is all the surrounding infrastructure needed to get this model into production?'
rugged owl
what do they even mean
high haven
type of roadmap?
rugged owl
HELL IF I KNOW
high haven
'well first, you need a UI for all the non-technical peeps...'
'so the SMEs can label the data'
bro they could literally mean anything lol
maybe what they are looking for is a timeline
which you know how that goes in the data world
rugged owl
I feel like my position went from ML work straight to random BS.
high haven
I feel like my position went from ML work straight to random BS.
me
lets go evolve skyglow
or follow that map
'switch companies'
rugged owl
I have like half a foot into "Data engineering" and half a foot in "business" and a toe in "ML"
high haven
accurate
rugged owl
Yea, maybe time to switch companies lol
high haven
im in your shoes but my friend said i should try to wait until the 2 year mark
or at least get a big win before leaving
this would be a neat job https://www.linkedin.com/jobs/view/3536251002
swe obv
rugged owl
Not sure what I should do.
rugged owl
Classes start in 5-6months. Once those start, I'll pretty much be stuck for 2 years. But now starting the job search seems a bit late.
high haven
5-6 months? you still have time no?
young shoal
masters 👀👀👀
high haven
probs better to get to a new company first right?
tardy rain
Mid-senior says, 1-3 yoe it says
high haven
Mid-senior says, 1-3 yoe it says
eh i feel like linkedin creates those tags
rugged owl
Mid is at least 5 YoE imo
tardy rain
Ye theyre meaningless
rugged owl
5-6 months? you still have time no?
No, I'm lazy 
tardy rain
Idk if mental health is a good one to be in, wasnt there huge controversy with betterhelp
rugged owl
Also this economy rn where everyone getting laid off.
high haven
yeah but if you start looking now it might get better by the time you start school
high haven
Idk if mental health is a good one to be in, wasnt there huge controversy with b...
i think they just werent profitable right
rugged owl
lmao, that's some dystopian sheot right there. "mental health not profitable"
high haven
masters 👀👀👀
you considering one? or nah
tardy rain
iirc they had issues marketing themselves as offering professional psych help/therapy sessions but did not actually check if their "therapists" were licensed
high haven
lmao, that's some dystopian sheot right there. "mental health not profitable"
amirite tho
tardy rain
You were basically sold on online therapy but it was just some dude
high haven
iirc they had issues marketing themselves as offering professional psych help/th...
real bruh moment
young shoal
you considering one? or nah
I've considered
rugged owl
Check me out on twitch, "Helping these depressed people out" #GetHelp #Winning #Live
high haven
young shoal
excited for sg lol
high haven
Check me out on twitch, "Helping these depressed people out" #GetHelp #Winning #...
"dont forget to like, favorite, and subscribe"
"and send money to my patreon"
rugged owl
Ah yes, I knew I forgot something.
high haven
grave cove
Lmao
high haven
sky, psvm is excited for your extra schooling
have fun in classes where you might end up doing all the work
if they allow solo projects, you should pick them
jk
young shoal
too bad
rugged owl
Literally what happened.
high haven
it should be better in grad school
young shoal
think about how much more employable you'll be
high haven
but it still happened to me a couple times
just remember to pick the working professionals
as your groupmates
they tend to be better teammates
rugged owl
I did 99.5% of the work in the MicroMasters program (MOOC but with gtech students too)
high haven
try not to pick the kids who went straight from undergrad
young shoal
lol what
high haven
wait what
young shoal
I just said I considered
high haven
did i misunderstand
rugged owl
try not to pick the kids who went straight from undergrad
I literally picked working professionals, at least most of them were I think.
young shoal
I considered, and decided I wanted a master's
high haven
I literally picked working professionals, at least most of them were I think.
eh its probably bc its a micromasters program than anything
high haven
I considered, and decided I wanted a master's
bruhhh. you left it hanging earlier, so i thought it was "i considered. but would rather not."
rugged owl
NOOOO, they were gtech students, at least half was.
high haven
young shoal
bruhhh. you left it hanging earlier, so i thought it was "i considered. but woul...
😔
I think I'm doing a 4+1
rugged owl
The Gtech's micromasters mixes both mooc & actual students in the program
I picked my group early too
high haven
idk man. my only experience with gtech was when we had a grad student from there who was an intern
rugged owl
young shoal
4+1 is good
minimizes opportunity cost, but my school is pretty bad
high haven
etc.
high haven
minimizes opportunity cost, but my school is pretty bad
oof
would it be better then to do grad school somewhere else?
honestly depends on your goals
rugged owl
I had to try to get my group not to mf plagiarize from a previous homework in another course for the project.
high haven
good school would help get you a better network
but if you arent going for that, then it might not be worth it
young shoal
would it be better then to do grad school somewhere else?
good question!
I have no idea
high haven
honestly you can always do a 2nd masters elsewhere anyway
young shoal
idk about that lol
rugged owl
Hell no
rugged owl
Academia is toxic af.
high haven
I had to try to get my group not to mf plagiarize from a previous homework in an...
thats a real bruh moment
young shoal
I mean, I'd be ok in terms of tolerance, but the marginal benefit is tiny
rugged owl
The guy who suggested is real bruh person. Smh
Another guy was in India, never showed to the meetings after the first. Didn't do much either. 3rd one couldn't code for sheot, but at least did the PPT.
high haven
I mean, I'd be ok in terms of tolerance, but the marginal benefit is tiny
hmm yeah 4+1 should be fine. plus you can get a higher starting salary with a masters
rugged owl
Idk, I've never had a good group project.
high haven
i mean as long as you arent founding your own company, then a better network shouldnt matter too much in this case
youre not gonna be a VC either in the future right?
young shoal
the extra cost is like 25k, plus the opportunity cost of not working, means around 125k for a master's. if a masters gives me 5k more starting salary, it'd take 25 years for it to pay off
rugged owl
cough Online Masters Cough
high haven
Idk, I've never had a good group project.
welp. heres to hoping thatll change in your masters or you at least >1 group project that is decent
young shoal
group projects are never decent
high haven
the extra cost is like 25k, plus the opportunity cost of not working, means arou...
why would it only give you 5k more
young shoal
well idk how much more it's worth
high haven
the other option is to just do a bachelors
rugged owl
Work while doing a masters part time. Masters now are geared towards working professionals.
high haven
and have a company pay for your masters
but youd be stuck with that company
during that time
and maybe even a bit after
rugged owl
And 1 year after
young shoal
certainly a little bit after
rugged owl
Mine is 1 year after.
high haven
on company to company
rugged owl
Both times has been.
young shoal
rofl
high haven
oh ok
my devops friend has a different contract
but thats probs bc he has experience
rugged owl
I never accepted because I didn't want to get held down by that. Job switch after masters def nets more than what is paid out
high haven
like 8 yoe
high haven
I never accepted because I didn't want to get held down by that. Job switch afte...
yeah but do you think youll hit a ceiling without a masters sooner or later or no
i guess maybe in DS but general SWE should be fine
rugged owl
I def feel like I hit a ceiling in DS. Given that all these positions require 3-5 YoE + Masters.
Then again, it could be me not having enough YoE technically speaking.
high haven
rugged owl
But either way, masters will be some what future proofing for me.
high haven
But either way, masters will be some what future proofing for me.
yeah thats true
rugged owl
Less job in DS for sure. Feels like I"m getting rolled into DE in my current position not by choice. And more so of business sided DE.
high haven
the generalist DS jobs have started differentiating
rugged owl
Yea, I think I"ll just stay for now. Maybe I'll jump midway through my masters.
high haven
fail no one saw that
rugged owl
Then I'll have a job w/ more than 1.5 years lol
high haven