i am good
#voice-chat-text-0
gloomy vigil
yea
i started it 30min ago and it is still 33% only
the make build
i am bored but
bye
frozen jetty
14:14 @sturdy panther
sturdy panther
GMT +3:30?
wintry prism
GMT +3:30?
Nopes, it's GMT +5.30, Indian Standard Time, now it's 4.31pm
woeful salmon
@proper cradle #โ๏ฝhow-to-get-help
proper cradle
ty dude
woeful salmon
np ๐
proper cradle
anyone tried to work on the Titanic database?
sweet lodge
!docs itertools
wise cargoBOT
sweet lodge
!pypi more-itertools
wise cargoBOT
sweet lodge
!pypi even-more-itertools
wise cargoBOT
swift valley
Lazy structures are fun
stuck sky
rich peeps
swift valley
6.6k stars likely says a lot
vivid palm
yeah i figured it's popular bc rich is popular but
it was super new when i first heard abt it
swift valley
@terse needle banger soundtrack too
terse needle
<@!412009418670997536> banger soundtrack too
ikr
swift valley
On the topic of virtualenvs, I'm looking forward to https://pdm.fming.dev/
!pep 582
wise cargoBOT
swift valley
It uses this ^, which is a lot like node_modules, in a sense
But adding content-addressable storage on top, you can share dependencies among a global cache
woeful salmon
a venv is already alot like node_modules
and something like pipenv can even give you the pipfile which is alot like a package.json
swift valley
But a lot of it can be simplified still
woeful salmon
you can even use something like aactivator to auto activate venvs when you're in a project's directory
and auto deactivate it when you leave
swift valley
Yeah, though poetry shell normally just solves that for me quite easily
woeful salmon
xD but you have to type poetry shell
swift valley
Once lol
sweet lodge
Can you set Poetry to use PDM?
swift valley
Very conflicting tools, so probably no
pip just feels awkward
It feels a bit too weak to be a package manager
I don't think it does dependency resolution on its own until recently
rugged root
PDMM?
swift valley
woeful salmon
someone asked today about time complexity of using len() on a range object and i guessed its probably O(1) cuz they probably just subtract end - 1 from start and devide by step
and it turns out it actually is that simple
assert(step != 0);
if (step > 0 && lo < hi)
return 1UL + (hi - 1UL - lo) / step;
else if (step < 0 && lo > hi)
return 1UL + (lo - 1UL - hi) / (0UL - step);
else
return 0UL;
from cpython source ^
๐ i love the simpler parts of cpython source makes me feel lesser like an idiot and more like i could contribute one day
flat sentinel
https://github.com/willmcgugan/rich
https://github.com/willmcgugan/textual
that looks cool
swift valley
I'm learning C# now, cool
tiny seal
rugged root
I like that
gray tapir
yeah, I think it's nice .
vernal kiln
yello
rugged root
@haughty pier https://pdm.fming.dev/
gentle flint
laundmower
crystal fox
haughty pier
gloomy vigil
hello everyone!
gentle flint
molten pewter
flat sentinel
no swastika good
molten pewter
haughty pier
somber heath
When in a situation where you could say "It happens to the best of us." Consider appending "Or the worst of us, in your case."
Best used with close friends.
haughty pier
crystal fox
pine minnow
what ?
sweet lodge
Here's an explanation of the XKCD
https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/2347:_Dependency
crystal fox
somber heath
I read about someone disabling metal detectors by changing the name of their phone.
crystal fox
CVE-2021-45046.
sweet lodge
Here's an explanation of the XKCD
https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/234...
And here's an explanation of CVE-2021-45046 (log4j)
https://security.googleblog.com/2021/12/understanding-impact-of-apache-log4j.html
woeful salmon
whole bear
Yo whats up
haughty pier
ok I kinda hate linking to pinterest but this is the sort of inspiration I have for a recording space... https://www.pinterest.com/pin/288300813649863075/
whole bear
Oh damn, thats an impossible competition
woeful salmon
https://aws.amazon.com/corretto/
@rugged root also this is amazon's openjdk
somber heath
Toys for Tots. Thaaat's what Log4J keeps reminding me of. Except it kind of didn't, it just rattled around in my brain.
whole bear
I wish i can import the toilet module on python
somber heath
!pypi toilet
wise cargoBOT
whole bear
Thanks
whole bear
Storage lube
somber heath
Well, if you're sliding crates along each other.
nimble minnow
hello!
nimble minnow
your make a game? or server?
whole bear
pine minnow
So guys, have a nice day
whole bear
Thanks you too
dark seal
nimble minnow
hello! ๋ฐ๋ !
uncut meteor
@sturdy panther heard anything about your interview?
whole bear
Yo
somber heath
"Where did your floodboards go?"
"They warped."
"Oh, so you took them out?"
"No, they warped. Y'know...voom."
"Voom?"
"Voom. Star trek. Pshew!"
daring orbit
somber heath
Toes.
uncut meteor
Perl == Butterfly
somber heath
You dig them in a bit and move in a circular motion.
uncut meteor
sturdy panther
<@!385024557121011713> heard anything about your interview?
Yea. Got rejected. I mentioned something I shouldn't have in the interview. ๐ญ
somber heath
I can make wigs on command in my room.
sturdy panther
Something about not liking to do presentations. They were really big on "teamwork".
sturdy panther
Big letter, in a masquee.
uncut meteor
well, you can use it as learning what to mention next time etc
somber heath
"Cheers, big ears."
sturdy panther
It was 50:1 applications to places. So anything they can pick on is enough to bin it, probably.
somber heath
Spell team with a capital T.
"I love working in a Team."
"This person seems to be a team player."
uncut meteor
"I love working in a Team."
somber heath
"Look! Frost!"
haughty pier
do bottle on linode now
sweet lodge
I thought it would have been simple enough to learn, but they disagreed
sweet lodge
do bottle on linode now
Maybe
I just made a Digital Ocean account for a family thing
How many cloud provider accounts is too many?
somber heath
Maybe
I just made a Digital Ocean account for a family thing
How many cloud prov...
Seven. (I don't really know.)
rugged root
crystal fox
haughty pier
if they do django on aws you need to get the AWS cert and take lessons from Jacob Kaplan-Moss
so yeah, yuh did bad son
sweet lodge
Seven. (I don't really know.)
Challenge accepted
I have accounts with AWS, Azure, GCP, and DO
If I open a Linode one, I'll have five
Only two away from seven
Who's next?
sweet lodge
if they do django on aws you need to get the AWS cert and take lessons from Jaco...
Yeah, certifications are important
Or at least some kind of proof of education
I've been doing this for years, but I have nothing to show for it
somber heath
"NFTs: Boy, do we ever have a bridge to sell you!"
rugged root
NFT - No Functional Thought
somber heath
At least Etherium was kind of self-aware with their naming.
pallid hazel
nothing for timeshare
pallid hazel
nft are a scheme, simply put.. built upon an idea... how many ideas pan out? .. here is a hint only 3 things ever pan out.. 1) associated with death 2) associated with extending life and 3) wasting your time, ie beer/drugs/nfts/social status/etc.
a simplier way to explain it.. nfts = entertainment
rugged root
The concept of itself is good. It's just not in the right usecase right now
It's a gimmick right now
somber heath
I propose we dump all the NFTs into the harbor.
pallid hazel
anything that is not a physical asset is easily manipulated.. ie look at the stock market.. not to be confused with how actual objects are manipulated.. ie gold
rugged root
I propose we dump all the NFTs into the harbor.
Trying to figure out a Boston Tea Party joke from that
haughty pier
Yeah, certifications are important
Or at least some kind of proof of education
I...
experience also counts but if you're in competition for a job and another Shenanigans applies and the only difference is the other Shenanigans has a relevant certification, the other Shenanigans will probably get the job (though I could see arguments against hiring people with certain bad certifications)
pallid hazel
Trying to figure out a Boston Tea Party joke from that
firesale
somber heath
Trying to figure out a Boston Tea Party joke from that
Well, it is one, already. But the more the merrier.
haughty pier
w3 schools certificate would be one of those arguably bad certs
pallid hazel
w3 schools certificate would be one of those arguably bad certs
define an acredited program thats universally accepted
whole bear
@leaden comet why is wifi called wifi
rugged root
Wireless Fidelity
rugged root
The value is in the unlimited soup, salad and breadsticks
haughty pier
define an acredited program thats universally accepted
Some, perhaps as an overreaction to credentialism, go the other way and are dogmatically anti-credentialist - there is no universally accepted cert. Likewise, there are some people (admittedly not usually in a position to hire anyone) who like seeing even the worst reputed credentials...
fading portal
hi
pallid hazel
dang, you explained that to well... there goes my toilet paper degree analogy :/
fading portal
i have the hidden wiki link
haughty pier
dang, you explained that to well... there goes my toilet paper degree analogy :/
thanks, I think
fading portal
still waiting
rugged root
On?
fading portal
not pure's message lol
rugged root
Goooootcha
fading portal
XD
haughty pier
dang, you explained that to well... there goes my toilet paper degree analogy :/
the trick was simply recognizing the heterogeneous nature of people and (to a slightly lesser extent) hiring managers.
fading portal
rugged root
That's what she said
rugged root
Fair
crystal fox
crystal fox
crystal fox
vernal kiln
lord.
flat sentinel
vernal kiln
vernal kiln
this is a very passionate topic lmao.
rugged root
Kind of fun though
vernal kiln
its interesting yes
rugged root
One thing I will say about our VC, we keep it interesting and varied
flat sentinel
vernal kiln
One thing I will say about our VC, we keep it interesting and varied
agreed
rugged root
crystal fox
@flat sentinel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNUsOaB5V2c
rugged root
noble copper
nyc landfill expansion
flat sentinel
woeful salmon
same in india
i have 250 mbps on 10$ per month
but 60% of the country gets barely 10-20 mbps at 20$ per month
i paid 8 $ for my equipment but they give the money back if we stop using the ISP and return the equipment
gentle flint
woeful salmon
just make your own
gentle flint
I don't have mitre clamps
gray tapir
sorry for interrupt, does anyone have idea of Fast Fourier Transformation?
rugged root
I can't say that I've ever done anything with it
#algos-and-data-structs might have a better idea
gray tapir
<#650401909852864553> might have a better idea
okay.Thanks man.
crystal fox
rugged root
Hope it helps
rugged root
That's 100% a sonic screwdriver
gentle flint
mitutoyo
gentle flint
crystal fox
crystal fox
crystal fox
wise cargoBOT
@bleak cedar Please don't try to ping @everyone or @here. Your message has been removed. If you believe this was a mistake, please let staff know!
serene sonnet
hello
lunar grove
Merry Christmas Everyone ๐ ๐ฅณ ๐ฅณ
serene sonnet
merry christmas
serene sonnet
@ripe lantern hello
somber heath
@boreal parrotHowdy howdy.
boreal parrot
hey hey
somber heath
I remain extant.
serene sonnet
Nice
somber heath
Yali.
serene sonnet
Hi @uneven yarrow
somber heath
Incorrect.
Hm.
@timid ploverDistressed? Regrettable.
#career-advice Exists.
@split bobcat๐
serene sonnet
So what are you doing @somber heath?
somber heath
Making horrible things.
serene sonnet
Like what?
somber heath
Things with lots of tentacles.
serene sonnet
Mystic
whole bear
Enjoying Christmas ๐ guys?
somber heath
Mine's over.
serene sonnet
Enjoying Christmas ๐ guys?
Yeah what about you?
whole bear
Yah it's good
serene sonnet
Yah it's good
Got anything nice?
somber heath
But mine was very ordinary.
whole bear
Mine's over.
Aha
somber heath
I don't mean to say that it was bad, it was just much like any other day.
whole bear
I don't mean to say that it was bad, it was just much like any other day.
I got it.
somber heath
We got icecream.
whole bear
Well why i didn't thought about ๐จ this time
undone idol
Just bought a nice adidas tees
woeful salmon
burnt light
hello
sturdy panther
let &%#@ = "mathematical"
burnt light
@somber heath wow you sound like retro News reporter.
woeful salmon
data from small test i ran on howmuch arrays overallocate
by %
anything bigger than this sits around at like 12.6% over allocation
burnt light
numpy arrays are good for matrix computation ๐
woeful salmon
burnt light
GSOC is kinda tough its like 9.5% gets selected out of the total.
use spotify web with an ad blocker extension you wont need to have a subscription
frank parcel
use spotify web with an ad blocker extension you wont need to have a subscript...
i never thought in this
burnt light
like pied piper in silicon valley? @woeful salmon
@sturdy panther As a user, you will have a unique identity on Web 3.0 that will enable you to access and control all your assets, data, and services without logging in on a platform or seeking permission from a particular service provider.
thats what I mean having an unique identity
yeah no DDOS I guess
I meant they can be prevented like 70% in 3.0 compared to 2.0
sturdy panther
Obligatory: https://xkcd.com/2044/
burnt light
Obligatory: <https://xkcd.com/2044/>
Nice
you can buy Da Vinci's artworks like in a flash.
better to have encrypted drive
connected to cloud
disaster recovery
forgery
yeah
detection
you can use AWS glacier vaults to store NFTS
highly protected
frank parcel
someone on the call already used the library request?
burnt light
nah there is data redundancy
frank parcel
nah there is data redundancy
you have another option to get information from the internet?
burnt light
?
burnt light
ah web scraping?
frank parcel
yess
frank parcel
you can find many videos in youtube to do that.
i will do that
burnt light
@woeful salmon @sturdy panther will give you more freedom to adjust left and right sides to the exact angle that keeps your wrists, arms, and shoulders in perfect alignment.
more ergonomic and more healthy.
whole bear
https://blog.jetbrains.com/blog/2021/11/29/welcome-to-fleet/
is it out
@woeful salmon do u know vim script
ah
sturdy panther
Gotta go. Merry Christmas! ๐
woeful salmon
whole bear
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8HSrcTVj1hc
ok
somber heath
@whole bear "I am changing" Into anything in particular? A rock, perhaps? Just laying around, soaking up the scenery.
whole bear
<@456226577798135808> "I am changing" Into anything in particular? A rock, perha...
i mean I am changing my preferences in terms of the setup
Giving up on some shit that I used to use
somber heath
IDE-wise?
woeful salmon
<@!128363483828977664> do u know vim script
To properly learn vimscript with an understanding of every concept and why its used
https://learnvimscriptthehardway.stevelosh.com/
For reference of syntax you forgot
https://devhints.io/vimscript
o- o that may help
whole bear
you never said
What do u mean ? I didn't get it
woeful salmon
you asked me if i know vimscript
but never said anything after i said yes
like do you need help with it?
whole bear
but never said anything after i said `yes`
i was just asking in general
woeful salmon
ah ok lol
woeful salmon
To properly learn vimscript with an understanding of every concept and why its u...
^ gr8 resources btw if you ever decide to learn it
whole bear
IDE-wise?
color scheme wise , gruvbox fan but 2 days ago got relly affectionated to monokai which i disliked all time
and depending upon autocomple sometime
whole bear
^ gr8 resources btw if you ever decide to learn it
ok
somber heath
Or toe comb pie yell.
whole bear
super
whole bear
cloud kindle
@rugged root
how i can make my image in tkinter canvas to move at particularalr location using canvas.otemconfig methos
self.canvas.itemconfig(self.img, x=0, y=0)
It says unknown option for x
dense ibex
@strong arch
sweet lodge
hushed ginkgo
what is python?
sweet lodge
hello chat ๐
Hi Mina
zealous wave
merry ๐mas
Merry christmas!
vivid palm
hi hi
brave steppe
!e ```python
l = ['hello', 'world']
for v in l:
print(l.index(v))
@brave steppe :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.
001 | 0
002 | 1
@zealous wave
That prints first 0 and then 1
!e ```python
l = ['hello', 'world']
for v in l:
i = l.index(v)
if i == 0:
continue # This would accidentally grab the last item..
print(l[i - 1])
@brave steppe :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.
hello
@zealous wave
zealous wave
brave steppe
!e ```python
l = ['hello', 'world']
for v in l:
i = l.index(v)
if i == ...
I did it here @zealous wave
l[l.index(v) - 1]
summer lark
what are you guys building
brave steppe
@zealous wave at this point just start the debugger ๐
for i, value in enumerate(all_values)
@zealous wave now you can get the previous using i - 1
cobalt magnet
bro @zealous wave when i click on your stream it says stream ended and shows up again
zealous wave
bro <@!280457250613493762> when i click on your stream it says stream ended and ...
I havent been streaming for a while
try refreshing discord
cobalt magnet
ok
arctic onyx
๐ hey Hi ๐
azure acorn
hey
limber helm
class complex:
@overload
def new(cls: Type[_T], real: float = ..., imag: float = ...) -> _T: ...
@overload
def new(cls: Type[_T], real: str | SupportsComplex | SupportsIndex | complex) -> _T: ...
@property
def real(self) -> float: ...
@property
def imag(self) -> float: ...
def conjugate(self) -> complex: ...
def add(self, __x: complex) -> complex: ...
def sub(self, __x: complex) -> complex: ...
def mul(self, __x: complex) -> complex: ...
def pow(self, __x: complex, mod: None = ...) -> complex: ...
def truediv(self, __x: complex) -> complex: ...
def radd(self, __x: complex) -> complex: ...
def rsub(self, __x: complex) -> complex: ...
def rmul(self, __x: complex) -> complex: ...
def rpow(self, __x: complex, __mod: None = ...) -> complex: ...
def rtruediv(self, __x: complex) -> complex: ...
def eq(self, __x: object) -> bool: ...
def ne(self, __x: object) -> bool: ...
def neg(self) -> complex: ...
def pos(self) -> complex: ...
def str(self) -> str: ...
def abs(self) -> float: ...
def hash(self) -> int: ...
def bool(self) -> bool: ...
if sys.version_info >= (3, 11):
def complex(self) -> complex: ...
hasty fulcrum
damn
limber helm
class classmethod(Generic[_R]): # Special, only valid as a decorator.
func: Callable[..., _R]
isabstractmethod: bool
def init(self: classmethod[_R], __f: Callable[..., _R]) -> None: ...
def new(cls: Type[_T], *args: Any, **kwargs: Any) -> _T: ...
def get(self, __obj: _T, __type: Type[_T] | None = ...) -> Callable[..., _R]: ...
if sys.version_info >= (3, 10):
name: str
qualname: str
wrapped: Callable[..., _R]
compact yacht
somber heath
!voice @marble plume
wise cargoBOT
marble plume
!voice
wise cargoBOT
marble plume
!voice @marble plume
heavy creek
@somber heath i was gonna verify but i forgor i left the serber ystrday cause of ppl saying me 11
ik vro
_<
somber heath
!resources
wise cargoBOT
somber heath
Corey Schafer youtube playlists for beginner python programmers.
simple oriole
this one?
i left this server and then joined today,
there used to be quite a lot of servers with open vc, i used to see lots of people having vc chat in other programming servers too ... now all of them are active role based and there are not a lot of people streming or chatting
i never encountered any such spam .... i see lots of anime/chill servers with open vc for new members ... i don't see much people screaming lol ... but main problem i see is discussion of sessitive issues
so what do you do? projects, etc?
software AI is still pretty harmless, wait till AI comes to mass produced robots 20 years from now on
i mean AI is getting used in war right now, who knows whats going to happen many years from now
limber helm
class classmethod(Generic[_R]): # Special, only valid as a decorator.
func: Callable[..., _R]
isabstractmethod: bool
def init(self: classmethod[_R], f: Callable[..., _R]) -> None: ...
def new(cls: Type[_T], *args: Any, **kwargs: Any) -> _T: ...
def get(self, obj: _T, type: Type[T] | None = ...) -> Callable[..., R]: ...
if sys.version_info >= (3, 10):
name: str
qualname: str
wrapped: Callable[..., _R]
somber heath
!code
wise cargoBOT
somber heath
@limber helm #voice-chat-text-0 message
!e ```py
class MyClass:
def getitem(self, v):
return "Honk!"
mc = MyClass()
print(mc["Honk?"])```
wise cargoBOT
@somber heath :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.
Honk!
print(mc.__getitem__("Honk?"))```!e ```py
class MyClass:
def add(self, v):
return 5
mc = MyClass()
print(mc + "Honk?")```
wise cargoBOT
@somber heath :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.
5
!e ```py
class MyClass:
def setitem(self, key, v):
print("Honk!")
mc = MyClass()
mc["key"] = "Honk?"```
wise cargoBOT
@somber heath :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.
Honk!
!e py my_list = [5, 7, 9] my_list[0] = 3 print(my_list)
wise cargoBOT
@somber heath :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.
[3, 7, 9]
__format__
__str__
__repr__```'{0}, {1}, {2}'.format('a', 'b', 'c')
'{}, {}, {}'.format('a', 'b', 'c') # 3.1+ only
'{2}, {1}, {0}'.format('a', 'b', 'c')
'{2}, {1}, {0}'.format(*'abc') # unpacking argument sequence
'{0}{1}{0}'.format('abra', 'cad') # arguments' indices can be repeated
woeful salmon
```
'{0}, {1}, {2}'.format('a', 'b', 'c')
'{}, {}, {}'.format('a', 'b', 'c') #...
happy birthday ๐ฅณ
gentle flint
thanks!
somber heath
Leggy boi
limber helm
class classmethod(Generic[_R]): # Special, only valid as a decorator.
func: Callable[..., _R]
isabstractmethod: bool
def init(self: classmethod[_R], f: Callable[..., _R]) -> None: ...
def new(cls: Type[_T], *args: Any, **kwargs: Any) -> _T: ...
def get(self, obj: _T, type: Type[T] | None = ...) -> Callable[..., R]: ...
if sys.version_info >= (3, 10):
name: str
qualname: str
wrapped: Callable[..., _R]
somber heath
!e print(...)
wise cargoBOT
@somber heath :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.
Ellipsis
!d Ellipsis
wise cargoBOT
somber heath
!d Ellipsis
That would have been the cleverer thing for me to do.
woeful salmon
!e
from numpy import arange
a = arange(16).reshape(2,2,2,2)
print(a[..., 0].flatten())
@woeful salmon :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.
[ 0 2 4 6 8 10 12 14]
whole bear
Damn been here so long still dont have voice access
limber helm
Damn been here so long still dont have voice access
go to voice verify room
whole bear
verify me gentlemen
whole bear
I see a ducky one 2 mini. I've just got the ducky one 3 in quack yellow
somber heath
He's not Bloody Mary.
limber helm
somber heath
"If Sally has had 3 tequillas and John has had 5 tequillas..."
trail mural
Sally has "Liver Failure"
wind raptor
Hey all ๐
somber heath
Was he talking about pure mathematics?
Because there's this weird thing in it where "extremely large values of five" minus five may not always equal zero.
I don't understand how.
But it's a thing.
Now, maybe it's about imaginary numbers or something...
I don't understand complex numbers.
I just know they can make Mandelbrot set images.
If we start talking about computers and floating point stuff...that's just not fair to the discussion.
woeful salmon
id(float(1)) == id(float(2))
True.
Identity vs equality.
!e py a = [] b = [] c = a print(a == b) #They're both empty lists. print(a is b) #But they're not the same list print(a is c) #The variables a and c both point to the same list object in memory.
wise cargoBOT
@somber heath :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.
001 | True
002 | False
003 | True
!e
class Person:
def __init__(self, name: str) -> None:
self.name = name
print(f"{self.name} created")
def __del__(self) -> None:
print(f"{self.name} deleted")
print(id(Person("Thor")) == id(Person("Loki")))
@woeful salmon :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.
001 | Thor created
002 | Thor deleted
003 | Loki created
004 | Loki deleted
005 | True
!e
a = []
b = []
c = a
print(a == b) #They're both empty lists.
print(a == b) #But they're not the same list
print(a is c)
wise cargoBOT
@limber helm :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.
001 | True
002 | True
003 | True
!e
a = []
b = []
c = a
print(a == b) #They're both empty lists.
print(a is b) #But they're not the same list
print(a is c)
wise cargoBOT
@limber helm :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.
001 | True
002 | False
003 | True
Variables are just signposts to objects in memory.
They're not the objects themselves.
I know that there's a dictionary in globals().
It's a map to the local dispensary.
I mean.
What?
I was distracted.
Global keyword.
Avoid using it.
Functions should typically avoid operating on objects which exist outside their own scope.
If you need that kind of functionality, you should assign the return of a call within that scope.
v = 0
def func(): #Bad, naughty function
global v
v += 1
func()```
```py
v = 0
def func(): #Better function
return v + 1
v = func()```
```py
v = 0
def func(a): #Best function
return a + 1
v = func(v)```Classes and class instances change this rule a bit. It's fairly normal for methods to reach outside of themselves using the self object tree.
But only insofar as their class instance is concerned.
Or something else otherwise connected to the self(instance) tree.
There are some cases where it makes sense to have a function that does in "in-place" operation, and these are a bit of an exception.
The random.shuffle function, for example.
Given a list, it shuffles that list in place. It returns None.
But the list in question is reordered.
!e py import random my_list = [1,2,3,4,5] s = random.shuffle(my_list) print(my_list) print(s)
wise cargoBOT
@somber heath :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.
001 | [2, 4, 3, 5, 1]
002 | None
I mean, if it's part of your screen name...
I could change my name to "Idiot". I'd be a little silly if I got offended at people calling me by it in the regular fashion.
woeful salmon
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/412357430186344448/921469146435313694/hem...
@rugged root hello sir
rugged root
I am in "I forgot to put the boom down on my mic"
somber heath
Ew.
mild agate
yea sirr!!
rugged root
somber heath
There are some which will work as backgrounds
and some that are a little...much
I wanted to do some L-system stuff, but they're difficult to wrangle
Branching patterns
Trees and things
That's an old one I did
somber heath
We call it Macca's.
terse needle
maccy's in the UK
haughty pier
terse needle
gentle flint
hi lads and lasses
and everyone in between
rugged root
Boys and not boys is my current goto
gentle flint
how about hito
woeful salmon
people is my current goto
somber heath
10 print("Hello")
20 Boys and not boys 10```Well played
somber heath
"Where is he from?"
"Norway."
"No way!"
"Yes, that's what I said."
gentle flint
no road nor way
somber heath
"Put your blinders on and don't pay attention to what anyone else is doing. ...Now, the saddle."
woeful salmon
meanwhile internships in hospitals in india (from what i've heard from my friends... tho it might just be worse cuz of covid) keep you working 12 hours a day
somber heath
Yeah, that's not unexpected.
sweet lodge
@rugged root
You work with MSPs
Our vendor sent a tech from their MSP
He introduced himself with "You can call me Mr. Williams"
I felt like he seemed pretty arrogant, but I chalked it up to my bad social skills, but - when he left, two different people, unprompted, mentioned that he didn't seem very nice
I ... I'm not really sure what my question is - I guess I'm just venting - It felt really... condescending? to have someone say "You can call me Mr. " - No one's said that to me in years
So - Um... Is that weird? Or am I being arrogant again?
somber heath
I would say it's maybe not the best of introductions, but there may well be worthy attributes beyond that.
Though it could also be an indicator of inner rot.
haughty pier
This man beside us also has a hard fight with an unfavouring world, with strong temptations, with doubts and fears, with wounds of the past which have skinned over, but which smart when they are touched. It is a fact, however surprising. And when this occurs to us we are moved to deal kindly with him, to bid him be of good cheer, to let him understand that we are also fighting a battle; we are bound not to irritate him, nor press hardly upon him nor help his lower self.
rugged root
<@!98195144192331776>
You work with MSPs
Our vendor sent a tech from their MSP...
Yeah that does seem sort of.... yeah. They seem very self-important
somber heath
Pigeons???
wind raptor
<@!98195144192331776>
You work with MSPs
Our vendor sent a tech from their MSP...
Agreed, it's a little odd for someone to ask anyone except a child to call them Mr. or Mrs... My college profs used their first names lol
somber heath
I love it when people mention pigeons at the moment.
wind raptor
When I'm older, I'd like to get into pigeon racing
haughty pier
somber heath
When I'm older, I'd like to get into pigeon racing
They can fly faster than you can run.
wind raptor
LMAO
frosty star
Good morning/afternoon/evening everyone
sweet lodge
So it's not just me
Good
wind raptor
They can fly faster than you can run.
I'm dying from that!
frosty star
https://tenor.com/view/spoon-5minute-crafts-gif-18118842
Nani ๐ฎ
wind raptor
g2g for a grocery run. Cheers peeps
woeful salmon
<@!339491546258997251>
client broken
press ctrl + r
dense ibex
haughty pier
dense ibex
client broken
press `ctrl + r`
yes ik I was just joking around with mad
haughty pier
"put a pigeon on your foot" is the "five minute crafts" of the past...
sweet lodge
And now they want us to RMA the printer and charge our UPS account
So now I have to email them back and say we refuse to pay to ship back something we didn't break
I just want to fix the printer
I don't want to be in the middle of a billing dispute
dense ibex
is it possible to import stuff from a __main__.py file?
sweet lodge
Isn't....
__main__ isn't actually a file
dense ibex
I have no idea, is it?
sweet lodge
frosty star
main โ Top-level code environment. In Python, the special name main is used for two important constructs: the name of the top-level environment of the program, which can be checked using the name == 'main' expression; and. the main.py file in Python packages.
dense ibex
Yes but I have a __main__.py file and I have a variable that I want to import from it. I understand how if __name__ == "__main__": works and I don't think that plays any role in this.
how would that not be a file?
somber heath
I watched Isle of Dogs, today. Atari was the name of the human protagonist.
rugged root
God that was a weird movie
sweet lodge
Oh - you actually have a thing
somber heath
It has charm.
somber heath
God that was a weird movie
Have you also seen Fantastic Mr Fox?
sweet lodge
Um ... I don't think there's an easy way to do that
Why do you want to do that?
dense ibex
actually I probably don't want to do that
there is a way better way of doing this now that I think about it
I basically have a function in my __main__.py that I want to add to an init file
frosty star
From .main import func?
dense ibex
would that work?
frosty star
Idk actuallyโฆ try it
dense ibex
Yeah I just did, it doesn't 
.
frosty star
Aww man
somber heath
Platforms can have a life cycle.
Sometimes they die. Sometimes they linger.
Sometimes they get bought up by Microsoft.
frosty star
Cuz its pretty? ๐ฅบ
dense ibex
Anyways, ty @frosty star and @sweet lodge for the help!
frosty star
No problem
somber heath
Firefly, the 8 season show that never was except as a babe strangled in the cradle.
frosty star
As an Asian I use emojis a lot is that weird ๐ค <- there I go. Itโs a habit. Itโs everywhere.
haughty pier
When I was in kindergarten/first grade Nintendo was a new thing, people would bring the Super Mario Bros instruction manual to school and we would scrutinize every bit of it. Super Mario 2 already existing in Japan was an urban legend...
frosty star
Gnite everyone~ buhbye
woeful salmon
goodnight
somber heath
Musket rat.
woeful salmon
i'm changing old projects from js to ts and replacing bootstrap 4 with 5 to get rid of the slight bit of jquery i have left
its a pain o- o
frank parcel
@rugged root yeah restart the computer is easy, but my computer for example is too slow to restart
frank parcel
<@!98195144192331776> yeah restart the computer is easy, but my computer for exa...
but sometimes i have to
somber heath
St. 'Nix.
Sudo ho ho!
Fienancial software.
They had a bar in Jurassic Park. They called it the Isla Nu Bar.
haughty pier
I hate rebooting my computer with a passion. 70 days of uptime right now, 160 days last time I rebooted - and that was by choice. I can literally upgrade my system in place without a reboot.
and yes, all that is courtesy of NixOS,
rugged root
I like knowing that everything is fresh and ready to go
haughty pier
I like all the nines of uptime I can get... I lose millions every second I'm down...
haughty pier
I like all the nines of uptime I can get... I lose millions every second I'm dow...
by millions I mean proportional fractions of a second
rugged root
@sweet gyro #voice-verification
somber heath
A thin curr.
Farmer wants a thighmaster.
Infiltrate a bike club with a thighmaster
wise cargoBOT
Hey @gentle flint!
gentle flint
somber heath
Python. It slices and, when you import random, it dices.
haughty pier
import secrets for more indeterminate dicing
safe marsh
how do I get voice verified?
vivid palm
see #voice-verification for requirements
safe marsh
I can't access that channel
zealous wave
!voice
wise cargoBOT
zealous wave
Try that ^^^
safe marsh
oh
sweet lodge
RESTORE TABLE brain;?
safe marsh
RESTORE TABLE brain;?
nah bro
i haven't closed vscode in 12 days ๐
i needa give my pc a break
but like
i needa finish project too uk
whole bear
2126753390
class Solution:
def firstBadVersion(self, n):
"""
:type n: int
:rtype: int
"""
for i in range(5):
if isBadVersion(i):
return i
safe marsh
Can anyone help me align my chart and table on the same y-axis, (to be beside each other) in #help-carrot
whole bear
for i in range(n):
if isBadVersion(n):
return n
Did the things the person helping you not work?
dense ibex
whole bear
terse needle
Can anyone help me align my chart and table on the same y-axis, (to be beside ea...
good luck trying to get help, you'll likely get better help in a web development server
safe marsh
Did the things the person helping you not work?
That was just for the table css, the main issue is fixing the positioning.
safe marsh
good luck trying to get help, you'll likely get better help in a web development...
Do you know any server I can join?
rugged root
!e
for i in range(4):
print(i)
@rugged root :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.
001 | 0
002 | 1
003 | 2
004 | 3
Have a look through this https://github.com/mhxion/awesome-discord-communities, see if any would suit your needs
rugged root
PS C:\Users\runner> py -m timeit -s 'import secrets' '[secrets.randbelow(20) for _ in range(100)]'
5000 loops, best of 5: 70.9 usec per loop
PS C:\Users\runner> py -m timeit -s 'import random' '[random.randrange(20) for _ in range(100)]'
10000 loops, best of 5: 32.6 usec per loop
:incoming_envelope: :ok_hand: applied mute to @whole bear until <t:1640626484:f> (9 minutes and 59 seconds) (reason: burst rule: sent 8 messages in 10s).
safe marsh
@olive hedge why do u hate california?? ๐ญ
Oh from where I was (for 3 months), santa monica/la area is pretty cool
and the pier yeah it's pretty cool
okay yeah but one reason I don't like california is because the earthquakes are pretty scary
sweet lodge
extroverted
terse needle
stuck furnace
Hey hey
safe marsh
Hello
stuck furnace
Sorry what were you saying before I left @terse needle ?
terse needle
!help @lapis dock
wise cargoBOT
terse needle
Sorry what were you saying before I left <@412009418670997536> ?
you were unmuted
stuck furnace
Oh yeah. You could probably hear the Guinea pigs running about ๐
Yeah Fisher ๐
terse needle
I thought it was a door closing or something but that would make sense
dense ibex
You can't say you have Guinea pigs and not show them 
sweet lodge
innuendo
vivid palm
good girl
pearl holly
what do you actually have to click to get verified in vc? the page just says the criteria to meet it, not how to get verified?
i asked mod-mail but they just closed the request
zealous wave
what do you actually have to click to get verified in vc? the page just says the...
Try !verify in the channel
Or maybe it's !voiceverify
sweet lodge
!voice
wise cargoBOT
stuck furnace
Youโll get square eyes!
pearl holly
!verify
safe marsh
alright i gotta go now, bye guys ๐
sweet lodge
!verify
You'll need to type !voiceverify in the #voice-verification channel
stuck furnace
You can't say you have Guinea pigs and not show them <:AngeryBoye:58562841278205...
They are really difficult to photograph 
frank parcel
@haughty pier how do you connect this huge tv to a pc?
sweet lodge
All you need is an HDMI cable
You just have to make sure your computer has enough graphics power for a monitor that size
pallid hazel
not really, if it's not used for gaming then you just need a "good enough" card to that will output the resolution.
haughty pier
<@536038147600154634> how do you connect this huge tv to a pc?
HDMI cable
pearl holly
You'll need to type `!voiceverify` in the <#764802555427029012> channel
Thankyou
rugged root
The computer has been moved
haughty pier
<@536038147600154634> how do you connect this huge tv to a pc?
if you're having any trouble doing that sort of thing try installing NixOS and see if that fixes things
pearl holly
Paste the full traceback
#help-potato its in here the entire post
rugged root
Well played, Bon
frank parcel
if you're having any trouble doing that sort of thing try installing NixOS and s...
okay thanks
pearl holly
Paste the full traceback
i cant actually send the full stacktrace, over 2k chars
haughty pier
adds one more to the tally
rugged root
!paste
wise cargoBOT
rugged root
Toss it in there
pearl holly
oh ok thanks
sturdy panther
Salary reduction?
peak jolt
brb
gentle flint
woeful salmon
๐ damn you beat me to it
woeful salmon
https://docs.python.org/3/library/collections.html#collections.OrderedDict
hemlock did you know on the paste.pythondiscord.com you can replace the file extension in the link if it gave it wrong and it works O_O
i just figured it out
flat sentinel
storm nexus
voice good for @gentle flint
pallid hazel
bbl reading docs
stuck furnace
๐
storm nexus
me too
storm nexus
Why Leon don't have much Followers on twitter?
woeful salmon
class React {
static createElement(tagName, options, ...children) {
const newElement = document.createElement(tagName);
if (options != null) {
for (let option in options) {
if (option == null) continue;
if (option === "className") {
newElement.setAttribute("class", options[option]);
continue;
}
newElement.setAttribute(option, options[option]);
}
}
if (children != []) {
children.forEach((child) => {
if (child == null) return;
if (typeof child === "string") {
newElement.appendChild(document.createTextNode(child));
} else {
newElement.appendChild(child);
}
});
}
return newElement;
}
}
function MainComponent() {
return (
<main>
<h1 className="bg-dark" data-visible={true}>hello world</h1>
<p>saying hello to the world</p>
</main>
);
}
const mainElement = MainComponent();
// how you would add it to the dom
// document.querySelector("root").append(mainElement);
console.log(mainElement.outerHTML);
/* MainComponent compiles down to this with babel or any other compiler */
function MainComponent() {
return React.createElement("main", null, React.createElement("h1", {
className: "bg-dark",
"data-visible": true
}, "hello world"), React.createElement("p", null, "saying hello to the world"));
}
simplified version of how react creates normal DOM elements (not including the virtual DOM it creates to diff with to find changed state)
wise cargoBOT
stuck furnace
Erm, not very much ๐
rugged root
"Pay me"
rugged root
Trying to remember what rabbit says....
sweet lodge
Jake hosts bots?
rugged root
I think it's something like "If you want me to do this you're hiring me on as a consultant, and my fee is $200 an hour with a minimum of 2 hours paid."
sweet lodge
I thought it was $300 minimum 6 hours
rugged root
One of those
storm nexus
is there is way to get function source code.
rugged root
Function as in Python built in?
storm nexus
yes
rugged root
stuck furnace
Looks alright!
storm nexus
๐
stuck furnace
You could put two users in one field.
haughty pier
>>> e = enumerate('abc')
>>> list(e)
[(0, 'a'), (1, 'b'), (2, 'c')]
>>> list(e)
[]
๐ ๐ ๐ ๐
rugged root
!tvban 852180553880698930 3d Lots of background noise, as well as turning the mic back on while flushing the toilet, is not appreciated. Please consider common sense and be thoughtful of other users on VC. If your behavior doesn't change by the time you get back, your voice permissions will be permanently revoked.
wise cargoBOT
:incoming_envelope: :ok_hand: applied voice ban to @still lava until <t:1640896763:f> (2 days and 23 hours).
stuck furnace
!eval ```py
from collections import defaultdict
import random
players = range(10)
scores = random.choices(range(10), k=10)
players_by_score = defaultdict(set)
for player, score in zip(players, scores):
players_by_score[score].add(player)
score_by_rank = dict(enumerate(sorted(set(scores), reverse=True), start=1))
def ordinal(n):
if 1 <= n % 10 <= 3 and not 11 <= n % 100 <= 13:
s = {
1: 'st',
2: 'nd',
3: 'rd',
}[n % 10]
else:
s = 'th'
return f"{n}{s}"
for rank, score in score_by_rank.items():
print(f"{ordinal(rank)}:")
for player in players_by_score[score]:
print(f"\t{player}")
@stuck furnace :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.
001 | 1st:
002 | 3
003 | 4
004 | 6
005 | 2nd:
006 | 7
007 | 3rd:
008 | 1
009 | 4th:
010 | 2
011 | 5th:
... (truncated - too many lines)
Full output: https://paste.pythondiscord.com/udoxewuwos.txt?noredirect
gentle flint
hurrah. my sdcard needs reofrmatting and needs to be backed up first
north fern
gentle flint
mhm
haughty pier
gentle flint
stuck furnace
I scrolled onto that post just as you started reading it out ๐
vivid palm
hey this is me
whole bear
gentle flint
haughty pier
hey this is me
Me too, except I buy a cheap Lenovo and install NixOS on it, and I buy a $80 armless task-chair from Sam's Club... ok, maybe that's not me after all, but to be fair I've been looking for Aeron chairs on Facebook Marketplace...
haughty pier
Easy to find, but they're all $500 minimum
apparently that dude's video on flipping those chairs got around
whole bear
quaint oyster
nice ramen
can i have some
so im doing the react tutorial for tic tac toe
and it says the board component is the parent of the class component
but the board component is nested inside the class component
so now I'm confused lol
class Square extends React.Component {
render() {
return (
<button className="square">
{this.props.value}
</button>
);
}
}
class Board extends React.Component {
renderSquare(i) {
return <Square value = {i} />;
}
wait im stupid it isnt
vs code apparently doesn't know how to render lines
faint wren
gentle flint
Krait
gentle flint
Krak Edition?
you're thinking of weed, not crack
stuck furnace
gentle flint
gentle flint
please throw away that monster heat sink
no
unless
you get me an RTX 3060 12GB for free
sturdy panther
Did you get the SD card to work?
sturdy panther
Aww..
whole bear
Hey guys
zealous wave
!src
wise cargoBOT
woeful salmon
@wind raptor yo
can't speak rn but wsup xD
nice ๐ for me its 6:30 pm
i spend today mostly shopping finally back to working on project
๐ making ecommerce dummy site with next.js
cuz wanted to try out next.js 12 more
its nice
oh lol almost 12 hours off
wait did you just say your kids wake up earlier or usually wake up earlier
oh
i thought you were also older than i thought for a second
pallid hazel
you guys are up early.. maybe, I dont always check and have been up for sometime now.. but doubt I'd hear anything if I popped. in. gotta have the music loud when "actually" working .. heh
storm nexus
negative matter
pallid hazel
are you quantifying negative matter?
frosty star
=,=
gentle flint
whole bear
is there any teacher in here ๐
rugged root
I mean, I'm not a certified one
woeful salmon
๐ sem
rugged root
On in a sec, checking to see if I have some scanning
woeful salmon
I mean, I'm not a certified one
nice shake
whole bear
i mean everyone is silent
robust quiver
What the heck is that thing?
rugged root
It's even better when I talk
woeful salmon
ah right it will shake whenever you talk
whole bear
today i brought a yonex badminton but i have no idea whether people come for playing badminton or not
frosty star
today i brought a yonex badminton but i have no idea whether people come for pla...
in my country ppl do
gentle flint
whole bear
in my country ppl do
i mean they come to play but i am not sure whether they come tommarow since i am exited and just freaking out whatif they will not come
somber heath
Do test pilots sleep in test beds?
woeful salmon
today i brought a yonex badminton but i have no idea whether people come for pla...
ppl where i live think any open place outside is for walking dogs only children who play anywhere except for streets or really huge parks get yelled on
๐ฆ
such is the gr8 capital of india
lol
frosty star
If I leave butter at room temperature overnight will it spoil
whole bear
i man we can but i have a very nice coart with a nice grip mat in the campus i llive in very close
gentle flint
frosty star
pretty cool
gentle flint
frosty star
ppl where i live think any open place outside is for walking dogs only children ...
:/
woeful salmon
ye apparently for them their dogs > their children and children should all go study
lol
whole bear
ye apparently for them their dogs > their children and children should all go st...
exactly
robust quiver
ye apparently for them their dogs > their children and children should all go st...
so True
gentle flint
robust quiver
That's the reason i don't play football anymore
frosty star
i mean they come to play but i am not sure whether they come tommarow since i am...
then they will come the next day
robust quiver
๐
gentle flint
whole bear
then they will come the next day
i hope so
woeful salmon
nice
robust quiver
uhhhh i keep forgetting to keep a bookmark in my book ๐ฆ
woeful salmon
congratz on your first print
woeful salmon
uhhhh i keep forgetting to keep a bookmark in my book ๐ฆ
o- o i just take a note of the page number on my mobile
whole bear
do u play badminton @frosty star
frosty star
do u play badminton <@!786232209987993612>
sorta. I'm Malaysian so I am familiar with the sport.
I'm pretty bad actually
haH
whole bear
ah,
robust quiver
o- o i just take a note of the page number on my mobile
hmmmm
woeful salmon
do u play badminton <@!786232209987993612>
i used to play it alot as a child
whole bear
<:thinkmon:436537420067110913> i used to play it alot as a child
why can `t u continue it now
frosty star
<:thinkmon:436537420067110913> i used to play it alot as a child
I have the racket in my room rn but i havent touched it for years
robust quiver
btw i had a question, is there anything like an airdrop for android and windows????
woeful salmon
why can `t u continue it now
well being in school's soccer team followed by busy years followed by covid
woeful salmon
I have the racket in my room rn but i havent touched it for years
i also still have a racket in my room but its for mosquitos instead
o- o
frosty star
i also still have a racket in my room but its for mosquitos instead
uh... how tight is the net
gentle flint
robust quiver
well being in school's soccer team followed by busy years followed by covid
i also used to be in school soccer team pre-covid?
gentle flint
now to readjust the bed
robust quiver
What is the time at your place?
whole bear
i also still have a racket in my room but its for mosquitos instead
good one
sweet lodge
just one, a couple, a few, several
woeful salmon
uh... how tight is the net
frosty star
oh my god
gentle flint
What is the time at your place?
15:19 rn
robust quiver
https://www.amazon.in/HIT-Anti-Mosquito-Racquet-Rechargeable/dp/B07S5FBY3J/ like...
These are Op, xd
whole bear
I have the racket in my room rn but i havent touched it for years
i too had 2 of my badmintons but my mother and sister banged my racket(excuse ) against the door whenever i user to iritate them , lol ๐
woeful salmon
i also used to be in school soccer team pre-covid?
nice ๐ i used to be kinda good
now here i am a fat man who can't even run too fast
lol
robust quiver
nice ๐ i used to be kinda good
now here i am a fat man who can't even run too ...
xd
woeful salmon
most people post covid lmao
whole bear
i also used to be in school soccer team pre-covid?
our school never had , i used to enjoy me moving to other state for Taekwondo competions all free which was quite fun
robust quiver
I am so eagerly waiting for snow โโโโโ
whole bear
nice ๐ i used to be kinda good
now here i am a fat man who can't even run too ...
how`s the tummy
robust quiver
But the weather is f'd up