Did you guys already try Poetry?
#voice-chat-text-0
pale juniper
woeful salmon
and save it in a ps1 script
if on windows
i use poetry when doing packages only
that i rarely do
pale juniper
I don't know to much about this but poetry works perfect to manage all the dependencies and virtualenviroments its really easy, even it have an option I guess to export a requirements.txt for venv and so if you want work with it in the future
pale juniper
Oh nice, I'm not that Pro yet xD
but yeah, for me Poetry makes easy all this stuff with dependencies and virtual environments
woeful salmon
its not about being new or veteran but just preference as i said
some people like pre-existing tools
and there's ppl like me who like doing stuff myself so i know how everything i use works
slim shale
some like creating from scratch, that's me
slim shale
and there's ppl like me who like doing stuff myself so i know how everything i ...
exactly
pale juniper
yeah that's the idea
zenith radish
gentle flint
the van version
gentle flint
2CV, I think.
yeah
stark otter
tesla is the best
leaden comet
is the besla
woeful salmon
[CmdletBinding()]
param (
[Parameter(ParameterSetName="Create", Mandatory=$false)]
[switch]
$Create,
[Parameter(ParameterSetName="Create", Mandatory=$true)]
[string]
$Version = 3.9,
[Parameter(ParameterSetName="Activate", Mandatory=$false)]
[switch]
$Activate
)
if ($Create -eq $true) {
py -$Version -m venv .venv && .\.venv\Scripts\Activate.ps1 && pip install black && pip install flake8 && pip install isort
} elseif ($Activate -eq $true) {
.\*venv*\Scripts\Activate.ps1
}
simplified version of how most my python projects start (i have a package script that also has a -New and -Init option that sets up Src layout in current or new directory)
stark otter
i dont think theres much you can do!
yes!
by the way, is the voice verification still a thing
?
rugged root
Yeah, exactly
molten pewter
gentle flint
@zenith radish guitige grauwende grijsaard
and for those of you who don't visit facebook
hallow scarab
anyone know html ?
molten pewter
!voice
wise cargoBOT
grim plover
wise cargoBOT
woeful salmon
i started with cheating in video games with lua scripts
coarse birch
woeful salmon
what i added to the project: go, yaml, toml
what github sees in there: go, shell??????
woeful salmon
regal raptor
nothing better then watching @haughty pier stream
haughty pier
I can't believe I got Python 10 just tweaking this default.nix file...
too bad it doesn't have structural pattern matching yet. I guess I need unstable branch...
Python 3.10 is already in release candidate 2.
round moat
haughty pier
I tried explaining but you left... 😛
haughty pier
No, I have no recommendations that come to mind.
sullen acorn
what is this.......
haughty pier
Building the Python 3.10 release candidate now...
stoic grail
hello
haughty pier
hi!
whole bear
hey@tranquil raven
whole bear
hey guys
tight scaffold
👀
lofty ivy
guys i need help in my python code
what help?
tight scaffold
Many guy watch the live😆
tight scaffold
I am just watching and doing my program hw
He was live
But i think he rest now
Ok😆
whole bear
i am south korean
hi , i'm north ... vietnam 😛
whole bear
hey guys
does this just mean that its checking if n is equal to 0 or 1?
if n in [0,1]:
return 1
and returning 1 if so
coarse birch
molten pewter
darkness
fog
gloom
mist
puff
smog
smoke
steam
vapor
veil
billow
dimness
film
fogginess
frost
haze
haziness
murk
nebula
obscurity
overcast
pother
rack
scud
sheep
smother
thunderhead
brume
mare's tail
nebulosity
ol' buttermilk sky
pea soup
woolpack
Games: business
play
sport
adventure
amusement
athletics
distraction
diversion
enterprise
festivity
frolic
fun
jest
joke
lark
line
merriment
merrymaking
occupation
pastime
plan
proceeding
pursuit
recreation
romp
scheme
sports
undertaking
rugged root
On in a bit, trying to quickly put out some work fires
How the crap did Fury not get bot muted
haughty pier
IDK, but he only posted twice. 😄
whole bear
hi guys
coarse cape
sup all 👋
rugged root
How goes it
coarse cape
HEY LEMON
autopep8 song of yours is way too good
its my everyday exercise song now xD
rugged root
It's so good
coarse cape
ikr
rugged root
primal yacht
woeful salmon
:Sex = Split Explorer in VIM
rugged root
For context, it's a VIM command
haughty pier
another call...
zenith radish
haughty pier
ah, to open two files with vim with the window split vertically, vim file1 file2 -O - that's a capital O
Ctrl-W then left-arrow and right-arrow to switch from window to window
a number, N followed by G in command mode will goto line number N.
no number, it goes to the end.
rugged root
Neat
haughty pier
One other reason I like relative line numbers is it's easier to see right where my cursor is.
rugged root
Fair
haughty pier
I have relative line numbers in my emacs too. they made it built-in, so it's less hacky, faster, and more first-class support.
amber raptor
Is LP trying to build twitch?
woeful salmon
or if you wanna open multiple files but not have them on top at the same time
:ls to look at all running buffers
:bn switch to next buffer
:bp switch to prev buffer
:w write to buffer (save buffer)
:wa write to all buffers (save all)
:bd delete buffer (quit buffer)
:wqa write to all buffers and quit (save all and quit)
haughty pier
@woeful salmon nice... attempts to commit all commands to memory... did not succeed.
rugged root
Is LP trying to build twitch?
Game streaming service
haughty pier
it takes time to memorize but maybe I should take notes...
rugged root
So like PS Now or whatever Geforce's is
woeful salmon
well if you just think of what they mean its kinda simple
bn buffer next
bp buffer previous
bd buffer delete
wa write all
w write
wqa write and quit all
rugged root
I wish it was
It's still strong in SAP
Since it's their product
Unless they killed it recently
molten pewter
amber raptor
But Microsoft let’s you flip a ton more switches to off because Microsoft revenue isn’t reliant on this data, compared to Google
primal yacht
I used a userscript I made to do that
amber raptor
I prefer to deal with companies and looking at their revenue
You can flip GMail between the two using links
vivid palm
so https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?nocheckbrowser#inbox is the newer standard view
no wait i'm confused
primal yacht
odd ... still the SPA
vivid palm
ahahahah
primal yacht
AH! Wrong link
vivid palm
2nd link is the old
primal yacht
OMG THE NOSTALGIA!!!
amber raptor
Sure, but mina, GMail is easy to show example of SPA vs Server Side Rendering
primal yacht
XBMC
woeful salmon
I wish it was
oh they actually have it
https://www.hyperxgaming.com/us/landing/cloud9
stiff girder
Model : RDA0028
woeful salmon
a friend just told me that his company replaced a back end with 25 servers with just 1 go server and its just as fast
o- o i know go is fast but is it really that fast?
somber heath
Blue smoke goes brr.
amber raptor
Maybe, it depends on migration and server migration
somber heath
Cross code. Happy code.
amber raptor
During rewrites it’s common some inefficiency can be fixed so they can speed up.
Also it could have been really old PHP vs modern Go
somber heath
print(g"Hello, world.")```g-string?
haughty pier
another call...
rugged root
You're a popular man, Aaron
haughty pier
I mostly pretend to be a fly on the wall
somber heath
When there are versions of Python that will run your code with a thing being unordered then in another version, that thing being ordered, then it behooves one to write in such a way that accounts for that.
Unless you're explicitly specifying version.
rugged root
```py
print(g"Hello, world.")```
You're one of my faves
haughty pier
so the way I got my nix shell to work with backspace was I dropped the --pure flag, which means I have more things on my path, including ncurses and kitty, and I wonder if those are sufficient to add to my shell so I can keep --pure for analytical and pedantic purposes...
rugged root
It's the first time I've heard of kitty
haughty pier
it's one of like three terminal emulators who support ligatures (without qualification), and it's the first of the three that I tried (because it came first and it uses Python), and it seems to work...
until I have issues...
rugged root
Wonder if blessed does
haughty pier
there's also a lot more things on my path that are symlinked in directories that are intended to be used that way so the only way to know is to experiment... so I guess I get to experiment some more...
primal yacht
Ah, ncurses ... that explains a lot
You cannot even easily embed nucrses inside ncurses
haughty pier
it certainly could, but one tell that I was not getting my shell set up correctly was my PS1 setting function is failing due to tput, which is giving me these errors: tput: unknown terminal "xterm-kitty"
haughty pier
also, when using --pure I'm also lacking environment variables like TERMINFO and TERMINFO_DIRS
somber heath
People are always complaining about how shitty their internet connection is.
primal yacht
Is your terminal using something like screen / etc. as a reference?
haughty pier
but I usually get my environment variables and shell functions to fall into my environment even when using --pure
primal yacht
If so, try setting TERM to that
somber heath
Newbernetes?
primal yacht
You can probably test if TERM is set to that and then just adjust as needed ... while adding an "identifying environment variable" so you know you are running inside of it
like how BASHPID (?) exists
crystal fox
somber heath
Install an accelerometer into your hardware. Shaking it triggers the restart.
amber raptor
Install an accelerometer into your hardware. Shaking it triggers the restart.
I both love and hate this idea
willow light
ok, installing an accelerometer into my arduino now
sweet lodge
What's icon on the right? Is this an organization contact? How to remove?
(Address is not saved in personal info)
primal yacht
What's icon on the right? Is this an organization contact? How to remove?
(Addr...
"paste"?
looks like a clipboard
primal yacht
but to remove, check your browser settings
rugged root
jinx
sweet lodge
User reports address not in their clipboard
rugged root
It's not
It's in their Browser
It's likely a stored email
It's just saying paste this email address
primal yacht
I disable the Auto-Complete for most stuff.
sweet lodge
Browser personal info is completely empty
rugged root
Huh
primal yacht
For stuff like "name" / "address" / etc., I totally disable it.
For password stuff, I just leave it at prompt
rugged root
What's the site if you can say?
primal yacht
User reports address not in their clipboard
It is NOT a normal clipboard
It's likely stored in the browser for auto-complete
sweet lodge
What's the site if you can say?
User reports multiple sites
primal yacht
It's likely stored in the browser for auto-complete
... like I said
rugged root
Do they have any kind of password manager or browser extension?
sweet lodge
It's likely stored in the browser for auto-complete
Browser personal info is empty
sweet lodge
Do they have any kind of password manager or browser extension?
Didn't think of that one
Looks like this, which is what made me think it'd be an organizational thing
primal yacht
Looks like this, which is what made me think it'd be an organizational thing
Could also be a school computer (student laptops can show that message as well)
rugged root
Edge?
sweet lodge
Yeah
primal yacht
I assume Professional or whatever?
Windows edition, I mean
sweet lodge
I'm the global admin, so I have permission to remove it if it is organizational, I just don't know how.
rugged root
@amber raptor Have you ever encountered this? Possibly having auto-fill emails and stuff be managed by the organization?
primal yacht
Check the computer's settings ... what was it called again for the Computer Permissions related stuff?
Control Panel > Administrative Tools > [whatever it is]
(or cloud based area according to @amber raptor - admin(dot)office(dot)com )
@sweet lodge ^
rugged root
<@!113304266269003776> Have you ever encountered this? Possibly having auto-fil...
Or @crystal fox if you know
I've just never seen something like that
willow light
amber raptor
It’s buried somewhere in admin.office.com
sweet lodge
Hmm. Not a contact (nor a guest)
crystal fox
amber raptor
If you are not IT admin, ask them
sweet lodge
I'm the only IT admin
amber raptor
Then it’s buried in there
rugged root
crystal fox
crystal fox
main cove
trolled
haughty pier
primal yacht
SCSI
sweet lodge
Never seen it apply to auto fill stuff
It's keeping the last email the user copies.
I've never seen that before. Might be new?
rugged root
Possible, still news to me
primal yacht
sweet lodge
Doing the same for me too.
Skimmed the Edge release notes, didn't see anything.
Interesting
amber raptor
Auto fill is basic feature….
sweet lodge
Yeah, autofill I got - but it's automatically prepending the last copied email to the top of the autofill list, and not letting me clear it, that parts new to me
woeful salmon
it used to be
Structured English Query Language
SEQUEL
now its
Structured Query Language
S Q L
not
SEQUEL
amber raptor
Auto Fill with learning/checking clip board is basic feature
rugged root
amber raptor
Microsoft isn’t going to announce it from rooftops. Gold stars for basic features aren’t really a thing.
rugged root
@prime lichen Sorry, I typically don't accept friend requests until I get to know folks better
Nothing personal at all
amber raptor
And Edge is tied to Chromium so feature could have come from them.
primal yacht
amber raptor
Welcome to modern applications
prime lichen
<@!766857021643161610> Sorry, I typically don't accept friend requests until I g...
It's ok
The thing is I am new in programming
So I think you guys can help me out about the problems I faced in the programs
bronze quest
hi
prime lichen
Can you tell me some online youtube channels to learn python as a beginner
rugged root
Absolutely!
!resources So we have plenty on our site. Typically I suggest the websites for "Automate the Boring Stuff" and "A Byte of Python". If you prefer videos, we have a section that links to a couple channels that are excellent.
wise cargoBOT
prime lichen
!resources So we have plenty on our site. Typically I suggest the websites for ...
Ok thanks for helping me out
oak orchid
hey
bronze quest
I am having hard time debugging my code
oak orchid
how are you
rugged root
Good, 'bout yourself?
rugged root
I am having hard time debugging my code
What's going on with it?
prime lichen
Can anyone help me about c ++
oak orchid
im a french kid of 13 and i coding python about 6 month do you have some tuto for be better ?
prime lichen
What settings should I use to auto save my c ++ codes
bronze quest
Actually I use print statements to debug. getting frustrated seeing all prints
prime lichen
What you guys prefer me as a beginner for learning python vs code or pycharm
primal yacht
Actually I use print statements to debug. getting frustrated seeing all prints
import sys
def debugPrint(*args, file=sys.stderr, flush=True, **kwargs):
pass
if __debug__:
def debugPrint(*args, file=sys.stderr, flush=True, **kwargs):
print(*args, file=file, **kwargs)
# ...
debugPrint('foo')
# or
if __debug__:
debugPrint('foo')
thanks
rugged root
What you guys prefer me as a beginner for learning python vs code or pycharm
I actually suggest either Thonny or Mu Editor (both of which are listed in the Tools section of the resources page). They let you focus more on learning the language instead of having to mess with learning the editor on top of the language
prime lichen
I actually suggest either Thonny or Mu Editor (both of which are listed in the T...
Ok
primal yacht
normal hinge
rugged root
its crazy how much people know here
If it makes you feel any better, I'm mainly guessing
bronze quest
bye all
whole bear
If it makes you feel any better, I'm mainly guessing
still know more than me 😢
i cant even make an app yet
all i know is fundamentals
rugged root
Just keep trying stuff. Even if you're not making a whole program, just try out new little concepts or things you want to better understand
And ask questions
That's always important
Never be afraid of asking something, even if you think it might sound stupid
We all started somewhere, and we didn't know any of this at the start either
whole bear
What kind of stuff can I start making with python
normal hinge
still know more than me 😢
if u want to make mobile app go for flutter or native
whole bear
if u want to make mobile app go for flutter or native
I dont mean apps like as in mobile apps
normal hinge
What kind of stuff can I start making with python
almost anything
normal hinge
what do people call programs? just programs?
set of instructions that perform some operation
whole bear
I usually just say apps for anything u make that can be used
rugged root
Programs, apps, scripts, thingies, bane of existence, etc.
normal hinge
I usually just say apps for anything u make that can be used
first learn C and then come to python
if u learn python u will not understand some low stuff
it is always good to go from hard to easy
primal yacht
// Some ugly JavaScript ... ignore it
'use strit';
for (let text.process.argv[2], patt = /\S+/, mo; (mo = patt.exec(text)) !== null; console.log(mo[0])) ;
rather then easy to hard
C is not that hard
pointers is somewhat confusing
i agree
i prefer c over java
java is too code to write
whole bear
first learn C and then come to python
You really think I should learn C before python?
normal hinge
My first language is C
primal yacht
I agree with what Helmlock says, Python first.
normal hinge
and iam happy i choose it becoz of academies
Rust is also interesting
i like forloop in rust
same like python
whole bear
my school is teaching me c++, I'm learning python on my own and know javascript/react pretty decently for a beginner
normal hinge
Onething i hate in Rust is let keyword and that mutable concept
stuck furnace
Just another way to define a function.
Well, the body of the lambda has to be an expression.
normal hinge
Hemlock i can say onething Learning C u can learn any language easily
compare to python
rugged root
If you say so
woeful salmon
Hemlock i can say onething Learning C u can learn any language easily
programming is not the languages but the concepts
normal hinge
Rust Document is So damn nice
woeful salmon
whichever you learn till you understand the concepts you will be fine in any language
normal hinge
whichever you learn till you understand the concepts you will be fine in any lan...
agree, but learning C helps in logic building
whole bear
I think python isnt a bad first language because its easier to learn the concepts of things
then when you go to something like c or c++
you don;t have to worry ab concepts as much
just the abstraction or whatever
woeful salmon
it also depends on what the person wants to do as a programmer
primal yacht
>>> def add(a, b):
... return a + b
...
>>> add
<function add at MEMORY_ADDRESS_IN_HEX>
>>> add = (lambda a, b: a + b)
>>> add
<function <lambda> at MEMORY_ADDRESS_IN_HEX>
lambda *args, **kwargs: x
is equivalent to
def lmbda(*args, **kwargs): return x
except the lambda is a single expression, so you can in-line them in dictionaries or function calls or whatever, and def cannot.
woeful salmon
not everyone's coding embedded systems where you need to deal with kbs of memory
haughty pier
>>> lambda:None
<function <lambda> at 0x7f348f2500d0>
and the lambda doesn't know its name
whole bear
I think my biggest issue is how I chose to learn python and javascript. I kinda did the step by step handholding learning (freecodecamp etc). So now I know the fundamentals but I'm afraid to build projects especially the thought of making something that can't be done in less than an hour or two. I know this is a terrible mindset though bc a MAJORITY of things wont be done that fast.
normal hinge
not everyone's coding embedded systems where you need to deal with kbs of memory
agree but learning low level is always helpful
primal yacht
I think I first learned QBASIC on my own (back in the Windows 95 / 98 days)
normal hinge
I think I first learned QBASIC on my own (back in the Windows 95 / 98 days)
how old are u?
primal yacht
30's
normal hinge
oh
whole bear
my school teaches me DS&A im mostly just worried about the software development process of things
normal hinge
my school teaches me DS&A im mostly just worried about the software development ...
dsa using which language?
primal yacht
Old enough to remember when my 2 year younger brother purchased a Nintendo 64 from the local supermarket
normal hinge
i think c or c++
whole bear
dsa using which language?
c++ and python
whole bear
So say I wanted to make a Python Authentication app that generates a random code i can use for 2FA on websites like twitter etc @rugged root
would that be possible?
woeful salmon
agree but learning low level is always helpful
True but again mostly but not always as someone doing front end web development for example would never need lower level things
even back end till you're decent enough with your data structures and algorithms you don't need to be dealing with anything low level
whole bear
I think that'd be a cool first project if that's not too hard
normal hinge
So say I wanted to make a Python Authentication app that generates a random code...
ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE IN PYTHON
whole bear
Ah okay that makes sense
Do you have any recommendations then? I'm more interested in like backend stuff
normal hinge
Cisco uses python for network stuff
my friend is working
this proof is enough to show the power of python
rugged root
!projects
wise cargoBOT
amber raptor
Cisco uses Python to manage network equipment. Not for actual networking.
rugged root
We got a whole huge list of potential projects and ideas
normal hinge
Cisco uses Python to manage network equipment. Not for actual networking.
Yeah for controlling devices
and VMS
amber raptor
Just pointing out that actual packet handling isn’t python.
whole bear
Wouldn't algorithms be useful though for things like search?
Like how is discords search so fast?
normal hinge
Just pointing out that actual packet handling isn’t python.
they use tools
rugged root
Typically those are premade solutions
whole bear
We got a whole huge list of potential projects and ideas
thank you for this website btw
rugged root
The kind of folks who make those are doctorates. They've made battle tested solutions
Any time!
normal hinge
he told me that they are providing Hardware support for start ups
rugged root
Typically if you're doing things like cryptography (which would include the 2FA stuff), password solutions, some search engine solutions (although that's worth picking apart and trying to make a basic one) then you're going to be using a prebuilt solution
From beginners to pro, sometimes it's just better to use something that someone did already if it works
whole bear
are using libraries and apis necessarily bad? or are these prebuilt solutions different from those?
rugged root
Oh no they're a necessity
They're there to save you time
So that you don't have to reinvent the wheel each time
normal hinge
are using libraries and apis necessarily bad? or are these prebuilt solutions di...
not everyone code everything
libraries are built by smartest people to make life of developers easy
and they maintain it
rocky kiln
idk where i heard it and who said it but theres a saying: "the best developer codes the least"
rocky kiln
going by that the less code you have to maintain the better the project is gonna be
rugged root
To a point
primal yacht
idk where i heard it and who said it but theres a saying: "the best developer co...
You are in #voice-chat-text-0 but not in #751591688538947646 ?
whole bear
Ig i'll just start with something simple like a cli weather app and image scraper
rugged root
You still need to look at existing solutions to see if they're actually going to do what you need
Not a bad policy
whole bear
I didn't know you could tag voice chats that's cool
normal hinge
and entire project gonna messed up
rocky kiln
because a lot of people doing one thing they’re good at, is better than one person doing everthing theyre ok at
rugged root
primal yacht
I didn't know you could tag voice chats that's cool
I'd rather not explain how ... Trolls would abuse it.
rugged root
I didn't know you could tag voice chats that's cool
Yep! <#channel_id_here>
primal yacht
🤦🏻♀️
whole bear
I'd rather not explain how ... Trolls would abuse it.
thats fair
whole bear
http://automatetheboringstuff.com/2e/chapter12/
Is this for me?
normal hinge
because a lot of people doing one thing they’re good at, is better than one pers...
i never saw one person building everything except some smartest people on earth like Dennis Ritchie.
and some other legends who spend everysecond improving
rocky kiln
yeah this is talking extremes
rocky kiln
but in general if there is a library or project that does what you need, then you're most likely better off using it
whole bear
tyty
rocky kiln
even if you have to do things differently from how you originally planned it
rugged root
Happy to help
rugged root
Eh
whole bear
i program in notepad++
whole bear
kidding i use vscode it just seems the easiest imo
woeful salmon
👀 meanwhile indian houses -> no wood everything is concrete
1 earthquake we all die
forest zodiac
do you know python? <@!617377389974126631>
mind hopping here? #voice-chat-text-1
coarse birch
whole bear
ooo can i help
zenith radish
word = "coding"
you should make your word a random.choice from a wordlist
the put ur user input guess in a while loop with a certain amount of lives
lusty prawn
Hello
zenith radish
if guess in word:
== is not-> !=
whole bear
did LP say they're a backend swe
What size monitor do u guys recommend for programming? or should are u guys 2+ monitor andys
i know a dude that got taught himself programming last year of hs then got a job like 4 months after graduating dude makes like 90k a year now 2 years later @whole bear
I have a pc already
i do plan on getting a 16in MB soon
im waiting for m1 to come to the 16 inch
m1 was so nice when i had it for MBA
haughty pier
@whole bear I switched to Linux while doing my MBA and never regretted it
coarse birch
rugged root
@zenith radish Does it not? https://dev.to/ssoteloserrano/installing-doom-emacs-on-windows-23ja
whole bear
if they sold a manual for that shit im like 100000x sure u can find a pdf on the internet first result google serach @haughty pier
woeful salmon
windows
proprietary: no privacy
wait for Microsoft forever to fix any bug
your os looks and feels as Microsoft wants not how you want
bloated
background processes hog all the memory
lacks unix tools like xxd, less, nano, vim, sed, awk, grep, etc (there's powershell alternatives but alot of them are harder to use and not as accessible as powershell community is much smaller)
...
linux
memory efficient
most distros have minimalist versions that come without bloat
has GNU utilities (unix utilities but better :p sux for mac and bsd users)
has package managers easy to install stuff
you own the os just switch out whatever
open source so you can fix bugs yourself (although if you can't someone else will eventually if you just make an issue)
elitist communities
too many choices
systemd haters (its not as bloated as ppl say its just not only a boot manager.... systemd is a whole suite of tools)
...
whole bear
what is on your harddrive that you hate closed source software so much @haughty pier
u use wifi so thats where ur privacy left already
Do you think the vaccine is a microchip @haughty pier
woeful salmon
GNU utilities are still more convenient then posix compliant ones like mac's :p change my mind lol
rugged root
@haughty pier http://www.openra.net/
woeful salmon
a big issue with people moving from windows to linux is often that they try to find same software they used on windows in linux instead of looking for alternatives made for linux
those software are mostly the ones that aren't on any distro's repo and you have to either compile from source or use snap
rugged root
And the free software doesn't typically have the same support or the same features. Open source does not mean better, but it also doesn't mean worse
coarse birch
woeful salmon
agreed
coarse birch
word = "coding"
guess = (input('enter the right answer: ')) #end-user will try to guess a right word
if guess in word == "coding":
print('Congratz you are not hanged')
else :
print('Try again')
says invalid syntax without lining the line
where it is invalid
woeful salmon
comparing open and closed source is like comparing 2 different countries
both would have good and bad places
nice people and shitbags
you can't really say 1 is all good or 1 is just bad even if 1 has a slightly better image
^ for most people
but for developers who can actually read and understand the code
open source mostly wins as we do actually get more benifits be it customizability, ability to contribute to our favorite project, etc
coarse birch
lilac vector
Hello
wise cargoBOT
✅ @coarse birch can now stream until <t:1632855264:f>.
rugged root
@coarse birch
mortal crystal
how you get the privilege of speaking mates?
zenith radish
!voice
wise cargoBOT
mortal crystal
regal raptor
Is there someone know how i cab sum:
Sqrt(1) + sqrt(2) + sqrt(3) +.... sqrt(n)
In general
rugged root
I'll be on in a moment, going to hop in the van for deliveries
round tundra
@coarse birch you need to exit from the python interactive console if you want to run your program
zenith radish
molten hound
!code
wise cargoBOT
molten hound
#Percent Omega ,Radial
manual_spans_reversal = [(16,32),(183,212),(227,243),(257,282),(527,562),(587,601),(767,797),(849,873),(887,912),(961,1051),(1068,1096),(1292,1308),(1353,1366),(1741,1757),(1770,1786),(1803,1857),(2124,2137),(2160,2173),(2204,2224),(2241,2341),(2375,2415),(2432,2457),(2775,2795),(2806,2853),(2911,3002),(3114,3124),(3152,3174),(3532,3551),(3609,2624),(3887,3952),(4223,4241),(4329,4347),(4532,4563),(4652,4671),(4682,4697),(4937,4973)]
total_count = 0
total_frames = 0
overlap_count = 0
overlap_frames = 0
for i in manual_spans_omega:
total_count += 1
total_frames += (i[1]-i[0])
check = 0
for j in ranges_omega:
if (j[0] > i[0] and j[0] < i[1]):
if check == 0:
overlap_count += 1
check = 1
overlap_frames += (min([i[1],j[1]]) - j[0])
elif (i[0] > j[0] and i[0] < j[1]):
if check == 0:
overlap_count += 1
check = 1
overlap_frames += (min([i[1],j[1]]) - i[0])
percent_called = (float(overlap_count)/total_count)*100
percent_overlap = (float(overlap_frames )/total_frames)*100
print(percent_called, percent_overlap)
wraith kernel
I must be listening to stuff I cannot understand
molten hound
<@!735484836558536745> (StartA <= EndB) and (EndA >= StartB)
what would the line look like to find if j is there and not i
wraith kernel
@coarse birch are you trying to make hangman?
Ok
Ah yes sun tzu and his quotes
Idk if it’s a bad joke
Who said “is it good to be a coder”
You don’t @haughty pier ?
Bruh
Idk if I can answer it
Cuz I’m young and unintelligent to the world
@rugged root turning 14 in few months
I have no idea what SQL is
Harder then C?
@zenith radish sounds hard to do that
I’m going to go now
Bye now
molten hound
coarse birch
yeah hangman
kind wharf
haughty pier
Help on built-in function print in module builtins:
print(...)
print(value, ..., sep=' ', end='\n', file=sys.stdout, flush=False)
Prints the values to a stream, or to sys.stdout by default.
Optional keyword arguments:
...
flush: whether to forcibly flush the stream.
the above was retrieved via help(print)
also, for your entire Python process:
python --help
...
-u : force the stdout and stderr streams to be unbuffered;
this option has no effect on stdin; also PYTHONUNBUFFERED=x
terse needle
!voice
wise cargoBOT
misty belfry
I joined today so
Can't
@haughty pier
Lienucks
@terse needle Lie nuks
It's not loading Aron
Is this a terminal
misty belfry
I am back
Hi
@haughty pier I am so opinionated that my opinions cancel out each other leaving me with no opinion
errant nova
haughty pier
tidal salmon
hmm, looks like the VPN still won't let me talk or listen.
plush spire
@leaden comet Hey man, I'm just listening in the chat. I'd say I'm an intermediate python programmer, but I don't have any advanced level courses I can take currently. Could you recommend how to begin to learn structuring for larger projects? I recently took on a large project and I'm having issues learning standard practices of organization and structuring. I hope this isn't too vague. I can give an example if needed lol.
@wary meadow ty
@leaden comet @wary meadow Will do. I'm trying to deploy a local webserver for home automation/stats, with authentication, create a live updated GUI from SQLite db, and I understand how to do 90% of it. The issue is putting it all together, it becomes a hodgepodge of disgusting code. In reality it's because I'm extremely limited in time due to my job and studies.
....flask....
lol
I need it to be light
raspberry pi running the deployment, and ESP32 boards gathering info/receiving commands and doing things.
leaden comet
plush spire
I'll give it a watch. are you guys doing cybersecurity at all?
Yeah, I want to release my project in about a year so, I can do multiple versions lol
leaden comet
naw, security scares me so much.
plush spire
I'm going for it after I graduate in December
leaden comet
very well paid jobs in that field
leaden comet
CCENT
plush spire
@leaden comet lol fuck, drink the cool aid
leaden comet
plush spire
Stupid question: What does it mean exactly to deploy a webserver? Why can't a raspberry pi execute the python coded files and run the webserver itself, without the frameworks in this picture? I it considered unsafe, inefficient or something else?
@leaden comet
leaden comet
your raspberry pi can be a server
plush spire
So, just execute the code is the same thing as deploying it? I just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something here.
okay okay, gotcha ty ty
I have no type of mentor or someone irl to talk to about this stuff so this is cool. Yeah, I use pycharm on my pc and have a repository
ssh and do that, yeah
lol
leaden comet
plush spire
Great, joined your disc, I can bother you all the time with stupid questions.
leaden comet
sure!
plush spire
@leaden comet @wary meadow I'm currently and AV/Control Technician. I'm finishing a degree in MIS, and then doing those certs above.
errant nova
plush spire
@haughty pier @errant nova That looks really cool. I will try to run it an play with it this weekend!
haughty pier
haughty pier
@errant nova what do you think of this? https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0621/
people keep joining voice chat without voice perms - there's a voice-chat information channel above that tells you how to get the voice role, though, you just need to be a member of the server here for so long and post so many text posts...
errant nova
@haughty pier too tired to look at it now - but I'll see tomorrow
languid acorn
i have one doubt ?!
sick yacht
Do I just text enough right?
Yeah I won't violate any rules
Fail for me
I have lived in Canberra for 3 yrs
Still having trouble telling the difference lol
Life was nice back there
Not stressful
What car do u have?
Had this in Aus
Lots of memories
Yes I'm a car guy
Yea
Not gonna be better for me
I wanna visit Australia some day again
I gtg
I have a Physics quiz after I get up
Peace
ornate quiver
i cannot stand my mic
oh well
i would not mutilate myself with esoteric langs
why did i choose the path of implementing chess and not using the chess package and have everything clean and ready
ornate quiver
why did i choose the path of implementing chess and not using the chess package ...
i guess because of my "too good for dem all" nature
i regret every decision i make
@strong arch u have any suggestions for the undo mechanic
now uh thanks @somber heath @strong arch
ornate quiver
now uh thanks <@!317279909112446976> <@!255840559678095370>
NOW UH THANKS @strong arch
pascal is a lovely lang
strong arch
ornate quiver
oh my
that is actually so great
everything can just be expressed in symbols and poof we have concise math exprs
ornate quiver
https://agda.readthedocs.io/en/v2.6.0.1/getting-started/what-is-agda.html <@!317...
actually some new lang I love
whole bear
hi @somber heath
do not scroll to the bottom of the servers member list or face yor worst fears
i found a bug in discord
@somber heath ^^^
look at the video
i bugged the member scroll thing
yeaaaa
that happends to my bot
sinful igloo
@somber heath
Let me show you my code
I can’t do anything
Bcuz I am not voice verified yet
It is my probelm
But Tommorow I can talk
Bcuz
I checked
I should be 3 days in the server
It is Day 2
stoic grail
heyyy opal
stoic grail
Why don't you reply to dm's 😦 @somber heath
sinful igloo
@somber heath, my birthday coming in few days
somber heath
I believe I made myself clear as to why.
somber heath
A point you've elected to disregard.
sinful igloo
A point you've elected to disregard.
@somber heath can you pls join code help 0
whole bear
hola to whoever was that one xd
@somber heath HOLA
yeeeeeh lmaooo
yeah i can work with it
i've heard way worse mics
naaah just a little cracked
volume is ok
no problemo
gentle blade
@somber heath hello
sinful igloo
@somber heath Hello
gentle blade
@somber heath i m sorry but would u mind repeating that
@somber heath okay cool
how r u
sinful igloo
I feel terrible right now!
somber heath
!zen
wise cargoBOT
sinful igloo
I am making an bot whihc can help me with my studies
I am using for my school uses
Bcuz
I want some past data for future exams
Yea
Yea
Like an recap
Basically
Started making it yesterday
Ok
I am going to make an fresh new code
Yep
No
No
I am going just leave the old one
Make an new one
But
This time
I am going to make the chat bot myself
Yea
Opal
I have an doubt
I am going to take full couse tutorial and take the most important for my chat bot
Will it work
I am really new
So I don’t have clue of idea
But I am going to do it
It
Ig
somber heath
Corey Schafer, YouTube. Playlists. Python.
sinful igloo
Yoo
Opal
I am on the code right now
Oh
So
Made an fresh new code
But this time
I made an new code
I mean file
Sorry
I am new
Let me try
Dude
My first attempt failed
Just an simple Print command
I opened Hello word
Come on
Why
Why I am so bad at python
Oh
I have an idea
Opal
Opal
somber heath
Why I am so bad at python
It takes time and practice and experience. 🙂
somber heath
!resources
wise cargoBOT
strong arch
sinful igloo
What does it do
I am doing all my thing on my iPad
I am just 12
It is not python
It is Python Programming Interpreter
3.7
I to upgrade I need spend money
Guys
I made the first code work
Which the print code
Just Hello world
Now
I am going to an calculator
I am an high school student
LOl
LOL
Yep
I need to make this study bot
Quick
So I have to learn fast
So cya
Can I make guis
Guys
@somber heath can I make guis
@somber heath
somber heath
Python comes with tkinter.
whole bear
How do i verify my voice
somber heath
There are other, third party gui frameworks.
whole bear
Idk since my friend send me to join 😂
somber heath
Python and iPads are probably a bit of a nonstarter.
Apple wants everything in their walled garden to be Apple.
somber heath
For touchscreen things, there is Kivy.
Cover your Python foundational knowledge, first.
wise cargoBOT
Hey @whole bear!
strong arch
!paste @whole bear
wise cargoBOT
somber heath
With adequate foundational knowledge, you can know enough to teach yourself other modules and frameworks.
!ytdl
wise cargoBOT
sinful igloo
@somber heath
Opal!!!!!!!!!
GGGGGGGGGGGGuuuuuuuuyyyyyyysss
@somber heath
Do you have bunch of tutorial Codes
strong arch
Do you have bunch of tutorial Codes
wooden fiber
mental flume
@strong arch Refrain from trying to post links like lmgtfy, it's dismissive and intimidating to beginners. You're free to teach people to find their own answers, but do it in a friendly way.
spiral jay
@somber heath hey wats up man
sinful igloo
Opal isn’t here
amber mesa
Random question: do you guys think graduating with $8,000 to $10,000 of debt from college is chum change?
zenith radish
Americans be like
somber heath
I would need to see the rest of the code to get an idea of what you're doing.
sinful igloo
import pyttsx
recognizer = sppech_recognition.recognizer
while True:
try:
with speech_recognition.Mircrophone() as mic:
recognizer.adjust_for_ambient_noice (mic, duration = 0.5)
audio = recognizer.listen(mic)
text = recognizer.reocgnize_google(audio)
text = text.lower()
print("Recognized{text}")
except speech_recognition.UnknownValueError():
recognize =speech_recognition.Recognizer()
continue```@somber heath :x: Your eval job has completed with return code 1.
001 | File "<string>", line 2
002 | ...
003 | ^
004 | SyntaxError: unexpected EOF while parsing
You have a with that you don't make a codeblock indent for.
sinful igloo
What should I’d o
somber heath
Presumably you have code you want to have run within the context of mic representing a...listening microphone?
sinful igloo
Presumably you have code you want to have run within the context of `mic` repres...
No
I want to the bot to listen to me
And not the mic listen
somber heath
Here's how I use a with elsewise.
with open("file.txt", "r") as file:
text = file.read()```with, the context manager, is a codeblock-requiring thing.
somber heath
As in four spaces...the one indent.
I don't know.
It's your code.
How long have you been doing Python?
somber heath
Right.
So. Go on Youtube. Find Corey Schafer.
Go to his playlists.
Find the "Python for beginners" playlist.
Go through that.
Get yourself oriented.
sinful igloo
I want get a key about what is an codeblock
Are u playing some louder music in the universe
somber heath
Don't worry about doing any bot code or voice recognition or anything like that.
sinful igloo
Dude
somber heath
Not until you've built your foundational knowledge.
somber heath
Then you can build on top of it.
sinful igloo
Ok
whole bear
hi
sick cloud
hi
helo
nice
@zenith radish why don't use an editor like vscode?
alr alr
ten thousand open tabs lol
@zenith radish you are learning from experience i see
i browser can barely handle 10 open tabs
hmm
lapis anvil
hello everyone,i am new here to phython and this community
lapis anvil
did by any chance anyone here are majoring in information system?or are preparing to be one?
lapis anvil
supp <@!82578210453192704> 👋
wassup too✌️
zenith radish
@coarse cape ye
coarse cape
wassup too✌️
helooooo 👋
coarse cape
<@!786599434960109568> ye
:0 how good is the debugger mate?
zenith radish
it's good, I use dap-mode to connect to GDB
and GDB is as good as debuggers get imo
lapis anvil
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfscVS0vtbw
i am currently starting this course,its really well made
@whole bear yo
hello too
sick cloud
helo, and i gtg
urban hound
hello
wise cargoBOT
wise cargoBOT
forest zodiac
zenith radish
I like you, @stuck furnace
rugged root
Oh right, forgot I didn't log off of my machine yesterday
coarse cape
im back 👋
rugged root
Was wondering why everything was already up and running
coarse cape
Hemlock, wont you be joining us?
rugged root
I just sat down
whole bear
voice chat seems busy , my bad
coarse cape
show it?
stuck furnace
Hello Hemlock
swift valley
G'evening
woeful salmon
I just sat down
hemlock did you lose weight btw? i'm looking at your profile pic and i remember you streaming day before yesterday your face looked much thinner in the stream
rugged root
I might have a little
Haven't checked my weight in a bit
I know I'm a bit heavier than I'd like
rugged root
My diet says otherwise
coarse cape
no one gonna stream eh?
coarse cape
hemlock did you lose weight btw? i'm looking at your profile pic and i remember ...
i missed that mate 😦
swift valley
If my internet's nice to me I'll go stream
coarse cape
TIME ZONESSSSS
swift valley
Probably configuring my shell
coarse cape
@zenith radish which lang mate?
rugged root
Go
coarse cape
i can help in c++, js, py and rust
SCREW IT
wait
plain c or objective?
idk objective c
ah
im an enum addict 🥲
i do everythin with OOP
swift valley
I find it weird how when I'm learning new languages, the first time I do it, I'm super stumped, and when I come back everything just makes sense
coarse cape
c isnt object oriented innit?
coarse cape
I find it weird how when I'm learning new languages, the first time I do it, I'm...
ikrrr, same here
swift valley
I used to not understand Rust lifetimes now I do
coarse cape
rust goes brr but its very young
c++ wont be replaced anywhere in the next 30 years or so
go is a google chad lang
ive never used it before
swift valley
"Oh, what's 'static?"
...
"Oh, it just means it lives arbitrarily"
coarse cape
hehe
swift valley
Part of that intuition comes from tooling honestly
swift valley
Rust is great at helpful compiler errors
coarse cape
any good rust and c++ ide's?
swift valley
Emacs
coarse cape
ive used vscode, im scared of tememetry
swift valley
anything that has LSP support really
mental flume
I used to not understand Rust lifetimes now I do
I understand Rust lifetimes when I read about them, then I attempt to code something even slightly non-trivial and it breaks and I have no idea how to fix it.
coarse cape
@zenith radish which one again?
zenith radish
CLion
swift valley
any cool *doom emacs configs* you got there
Don't use Doom :P
I have a vanilla Emacs config