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[celest oyster]

I saw it in your profile status

parser.py

[woeful blaze]

Hello

[celest oyster]

I found the name of that Chinese company

Dongguan Yishunjie electronic technology Co., LTD

[sudden dagger]

Heyy

[primal shadow]

Welcome

[sudden dagger]

Does someone know how to make an api?

https://tenor.com/view/gato-gif-3686075135266285271

[primal shadow]

I imagine quite a few members here do

[sudden dagger]

i think so

[whole bear]

cute!

[odd mulch]

hello

[whole bear]

hello Jazza

[odd mulch]

nice to meet you im new so my voice isnt verified yet i think i have 1 more day lol

imagine a music bot that would go crazy

[whole bear]

sounds like fun

[odd mulch]

so what you up to working on anything ?

[whole bear]

not much, hard on studying currently

the last thing I was making was an http1.1 lib: https://github.com/billc0sta/Kudos
last commit one month ago

[odd mulch]

studying id love some sources honestly im trying to do that too and trying to start some projects il look at what you sent just now

what is it exactly was ? sorry if thats a dumb question lol i started with minimal html knowledge so i dont know a whole lot

[whole bear]

well, it's a library that tries to unify between the client-side and the server-side interfaces to use the http1.1 protocol

it's a toy project at it's current state

[odd mulch]

i figured it was a server of some sort lol ive only made a simple calculator that was hello kitty themed i used html and java

[whole bear]

so what about that music bot

[odd mulch]

that sounds cool actually a music bot that runs media with a link could be a cool small project maybe have it run using a simple interface with play stop button and somewhere to add a link

what a good idea lol

[whole bear]

this was?

[odd mulch]

i was talking about one in this discord so we could listen to lofi music while coding

[whole bear]

Mhm

[odd mulch]

wait are you middle eastern like me? lol

[whole bear]

yeah

[odd mulch]

thats so cool how is fasting going? its been tough for me trying to focus

[whole bear]

it's a pretty good time range to study

[odd mulch]

hello chris!!!

im just hanging out im trying to figure out what i should work on or what a good direction to go for studying python is

well first of all is freecodecamp worth doing?

[wind raptor]

https://cs50.harvard.edu/python/2022/

[odd mulch]

nice is this difficult to do? does it show the basics and include html and some java or is this strictly python

[whole bear]

“Don't push yourself to the limit. Push the limit. Allow yourself to wander freely within it.”

[odd mulch]

thats a nice quote

[whole bear]

it's sounds profound, but shallow meaning

[odd mulch]

chris whats the most difficult/most enjoyable front end or backend development?

404 is it frontend

oh no you cant escape that they will know

have you tried asking open ai lol to get past that

best thing to do tbh lol

so is html mainly used in frontend or does backend also have to deal with html

why are they making you use square though

i have some knowledge on html not extensive but i know enough of it

so you are working with a company that doesnt want to change and adapt

its going to make him fail in the long run if he doesnt let you do what you need it makes it so difficult

lucky friend id literally tell my bestfriend like it is and scold him hes lucky to have you lol

i could never do that im too blunt

so i should work more on html before getting into python what do you think

[spark girder]

Yeah

[whole bear]

html has nothing to do with python

[spark girder]

It’s a decent plan

[spark girder]

Hmmm Django?

[odd mulch]

when should i do some sql

[spark girder]

FastAPI

[whole bear]

well sure, It's a library

[spark girder]

Go with HTML, CSS, and JS. Learn those

Then move on to Python

Then learn Typescript only web dev

[odd mulch]

no but ive worked with html and and java

[whole bear]

I think that generalization should come before specialization

[odd mulch]

is it possible to learn python before doing any of that i keep hearing that python is the best thing to learn can i just back track to html css and java after python?

they all have diffrent applications right

i was getting into web dev thats why i started with html and java

yeah

[whole bear]

just don't waste many years in the languages' rabbithole

[odd mulch]

js

i think the first thing i need is to know what application im going for

[whole bear]

I disagree

[odd mulch]

so i need to learn it all but dont get tied up at the same time

[whole bear]

I should probably use pinging more often

[spark girder]

Learn whatever language you want my guy. There is no first persons language. My teacher’s was C, mine was Python, my Uncles was X86 Assembly. It is a matter of personal preference

[whole bear]

I'm disagreeing with the approach of choosing a specialization then trying to follow a strict roadmap to reach an arbitrary point of proficiency

one should learn how to generally logic about code first

[spark girder]

Im not telling him to specialize in one language, I'm just saying pick the point you're comfortable with and branch out.

In fact if we go back I gave him a road map, I didn't say learn the entirety of HTML, CSS, and JS then go on to Python. I simply said learn HTML, CSS, and JS. And by that I mean learn the fundamentals of those 3 languages (if you want to call CSS a language) and then branch out. Follow whatever path you desire.

Obviously you don't need to learn every language there is but my personal opinion has always been find 3 that do the job you want to and then find a speciality. That's your best way of getting a job as a software engineer.

If you want to be a UI/UX developer learn HTML, CSS, and JS (count that as one), then move on to Javascript and Typescript (count those as one since TS just compiles into JS), and then learn C#.

You've got the fundamentals covered and if you wanna learn Python as a side hobby go ahead or if you decide UI/UX isn't your path then branch out.

If you want to work towards machine learning, start with python, move onto C++ or Rust, and end with literally anything. Any language will do, my personal recommendation would be to end in JS/TS so you can build a reliable interface but it's your choice.

[odd mulch]

this is exactly what i was looking thank you so much very extensive i appreciate you so much 404 honestly all of this is great

[spark girder]

That’s perfect cause I specialize in AI/ML. Gimme a sec I’ve got a roadmap on my PC somewhere

Mind if I DM it to ya?

[whole bear]

welp

[odd mulch]

of course are you serious !! yes i dont mind you can dm

[spark girder]

That looks really good

[odd mulch]

like a fast table of contents that instantly ports you?

what province in canada if you dont mind me asking are you from dont have to say if you dont want to lol @wind raptor

nice my fiance is in ontario honestly everyone is so nice there!!

i go to ontario 1-2 times a month ive been doing that for the past 3 years

from the states i drive to hamilton alot its a 3 hour drive from detroit

niagra falls is nice too or toronto ive been all over

im a mod larp we can pretend i gotchu

[teal crystal]

bro
i am not able to send you dm
don't know why i already sent you one message which sent successfully to you before

[odd mulch]

do you have access to the app?

[teal crystal]

are you talking to me?

[whole bear]

you can use obfuscation code, dynamic reloading, etc.

no, unless if you're accessing the kernel space

[odd mulch]

i would make it so when you click your mouse it makes that penguin meme "noot noot"

hahaha

[teal crystal]

i don't know what is happening when i try to give emoji my discord screen just shakes and emoji gets disappeared on the message

[odd mulch]

idk where you are putting the emoji are you talking about here ?

[teal crystal]

@spark girder
have you blocked me or their is something else, i can't send you dm or even can't react by emoji to your messages in channel?

[odd mulch]

oh you mean react

idk maybe you have limited access/cant message someone due to settings have you tried asking if you can dm them first before doing it?

you cant assume they have you blocked

[teal crystal]

we already had dm first don't know what happened know
also, other person dm me first when dm started

[teal crystal]

i am not assuming
i am just asking/confirming
because i can't react to his messages & no longer able to send dm to him
which was possible before

[upper basin]

Parallel, but the rest is correcto.

[odd mulch]

idk then somtimes people dont want to continue talking not a big deal you have alot of others on here who can help you if you want to inquire about somthing maybe refer to the help channels as well if you need help

im also new here so i dont know if the react is possible or not in general

[teal crystal]

i ask in channel but is just he sent me message and i can't no longer reply in dm
so just asking
is this issue is in my account or is there something else i have to fix

[odd mulch]

if you have other open dms and they dont work then it has to do with your discord settings somehow

my react works on your message

[teal crystal]

nope they are working fine before also, is just i can't reply or react to a person
looks like he blocked me, don't know why

[teal crystal]

and when i am trying to send him friend request, i am getting error that double check the username

[odd mulch]

if someone blocks you its best to move on and not bring it up over and over you dont know why they did and it gets awkward bringing it up

id just focus on meeting others

[teal crystal]

yep but i just asked one time only
just want to know the reason, if i had done anything wrong

[spark girder]

I disabled messages to my DMs from the server. My DMs are overused here and I find it annoying. If I want to continue talking to someone in DMs because we share similar opinions or we have a shared interest/projects sure but I’d like to conduct most of my business with this server… in this server

Nothing personal just preference

[teal crystal]

i got your point
but we are just talking and also you started dm first (just for info), i even didn't get the option to reply you back
: )

[spark girder]

I DM’d you cause you kept sending me friend requests after I denied them.

[teal crystal]

dm me, i need to talk regarding work

[odd mulch]

bro thats very forceful he just told you he didnt want to contact you

[whole bear]

non-paranoid schizophrenia sounds like fun

[spark girder]

@teal crystal if you gotta talk to me dude I’m chronically online, just @ me and if I’m away I’ll search for it. I’m insanely curious, almost problematical, so I don’t miss the mentions.

I spend between 6-12 hours in this server just doom scrolling so yeah

You think I’m joking

It’s unhealthy I might add a daily limit to some of my apps

[teal crystal]

@spark girder if you don't have to work then it's fine
can you just like teach/show when you do work, so that i can also learn things
and you can give me some work for practice, if possible then definitely i will help you from my side also
: )

[spark girder]

I am more than willing to assist you dude, that’s part of why I joined the server to learn and help

[teal crystal]

i am not thinking that you are joking

i had also turned off notifications for all apps
i just manually go after sometime and check any message for me

[spark girder]

I’ve got a couple GitHub repositories I’ve been meaning to pick back up so if I do I’ll hyu and we can look at em. Figure out where to go.

[odd mulch]

there is help me and there is hold my hand you cant have him hold your hand @teal crystal if he gives you reference then you gotta put in the effort

[teal crystal]

AI/ML things are just not straight forward like for backend development, etc.
also i prefer coding or learning under someone, it helps me from wasting my time and use it more efficiently

[odd mulch]

didnt he say he would help you?

[teal crystal]

i am just 21, still don't know these slangy language
consider me like i am from 80-90s 😁

[spark girder]

In short I’ll let you know if I make any changes to my AI related GitHub projects

[odd mulch]

i still cant believe the first thing i ever made was a hello kitty themed calculator 😂

[spark girder]

We all start somewhere

My first real project was a discord user bot that I could use to spam my friend’s DMs when they didn’t answer me

[teal crystal]

after joining and chatting in rust/python's channels, now i am feeling that i don't know anything in english
i thought that i can read and understand articles most things, so i know english well enough
🥲

[odd mulch]

😂 🤣 no way how bad was it

[spark girder]

Uhh I got my alt banned using it

[odd mulch]

they actually banned you for that crazy work

[spark girder]

Yes

[teal crystal]

should i go for golang for backend?
any roadmap do you have?

[spark girder]

I have zero personal experience with golang

My backend is always Python, Node.js, or C++

[teal crystal]

what you have created with c++?

[spark girder]

I'm not allowed to show you lol

That'd be against this servers rules

[teal crystal]

but we are just chatting and i am asking not you are promoting
very weird rule

[spark girder]

No it's not for that

I'll show you the name of my last project

I am a man of many practices

[teal crystal]

i am thinking of creating a product for trading in golang
so that i can give as subscriptions to people and build that thing full optimized and with least latency possible
which gonna increase my target users

[spark girder]

What do you mean for trading? Like facebook marketplace?

[teal crystal]

stock market trading
In india, we just got boom in algo trading and brokers are also providing proper APIs to do it
from few years mostly after covid-19

[spark girder]

Ahh

I'd recommend setting up a scraping bot in python. Your frontend could be typescript. The algorithm itself is your choice, you can go with a premade, custom, or choose a hosted LLM honestly.

I'd recommend setting up some type of system with this platform (they've been significant) https://askstockgpt.com/

[teal crystal]

nope
llm for now, can't work in stock market or it just we don't know how to use it
people want full & proper thing like linking to api, download data through api for backtesting or later use or want to do paper trade
which needs a proper software
but mostly their is something missing in all available solutions, either they are not optimized or they just don't provide the feature
which end up being hire people having normal knowledge in python for same task again & again, by different peoples
if i can just give them a single api through it they can use any broker to use their account, then i think i can create something

what do you think?

[teal crystal]

i got your point and some people use these thing, just for initial signals
they then filter out signal based on multiple conditions
like when they get initial signal, they search for trigger then for entry signal, then if it gets passed then they buy that
bcoz normal patterns or indicators just don't work in our indian market
so people find strategy themself by figuring out pattern themselves and then find profitability thing either by doing live paper trade or do backtest paper trade

so for that they have some platforms, but they have some issues, so some people also prefer python
which always need handling api of different broker(which provide demat account to trade in) depends on which api they have to use
then processing data, if want to access live price(ltp) then handling websocket
and sdk which are provided sucks in some way handling things, also if you gonna need to do multiple things together so always need low level language
bcoz python is slow in loops, we got replacement for normal data analysis by using pandas or polars but still loops can't be fixed they have very much overhead
and if you want to do multiple things mostly use cpu for condition checks, data processing than GIL comes to block threads or whole event loop

after your suggestion that i earn from handle client accounts, i thought after this i can building something where user can code simple strategies in human language and optimize it to search for millions of conditions in just few seconds 1-5 seconds
after lossing some money in market i find that it's not gonna easy task for account handling or giving tips, also i am not good in it except i just know market basics so i can understand thing much properly to implement in coding

sorry if you can't understand, my english is still very bad trying to improve it day by day
that's why i am here to blow your mind 😁
: )

[somber heath]

@lapis venture 👋

@simple flume 👋

[simple flume]

hi @somber heath

[teal crystal]

@somber heath
bro, i think you missed me

👋

don't worry, i won't blow your mind from my english 😁
@somber heath

@spark girder
i also find weird problem in my laptop, it's lenovo ideapad 110-15acl bought around 2017

now it sometimes take 1/5/30mins to load/pass the bios to start the operating system
sometimes i have to do restart then it gets fixed
and this problem comes & go away automatically
no solution worked for me like low-storage in c drive or using hibernation or hibernation file is very much big

[whole bear]

can we talk about how europe doesn't fit any definition of the term "continent"

[somber heath]

@gaunt wave 👋

[gaunt wave]

Hey

[whole bear]

say again?

a peninsula of asia

north africa

there's no geological separation whatsoever

[teal crystal]

may i ask, why you think that you gonna find this answer in python server, you should do this in some geographic related server

[whole bear]

I'm pretty sure it's not about stock trading either is it ?

[teal crystal]

ok @spark girder 👍

[teal crystal]

yep
but how you gonna figure out that you will get correct answer for your question?

[whole bear]

they're very narrow, but europe is completely connected to asia from the eastern side

[whole bear]

it's a conversation, don't be sad

is that with the tectonic plate measure?

Mhm

the problem is that, it still doesn't separate europe

yeah

I wonder why europeans are easily offended by this fact ?

yep, it's offensive to know that a major part of your identity is artificial

it's manmade?

that argument goes against your point

I think that definition was made specifically to fit europe

hm?

I want to become one part with asia? did I hear that correctly?

geographically racist is such a cute term

I have no problem with that, africa is fucked

[teal crystal]

@spark girder
elon is waiting for you, if you want to go to mars : )

[whole bear]

asian brainwashing

[teal crystal]

elon is from africa, i think

yep i got your point
everyone do this, due to greed

[whole bear]

for reasons...

why do you think that I hate europeans?

[teal crystal]

you know that well enough?

[whole bear]

my country is self-sufficient in terms of food my friend

that's too bad

[teal crystal]

ghana, nigeria, egpyt, kenya, algeria?

[whole bear]

you have zero counterarguments

"where are you from" is not a declarative sentence

would you please list the facts you said?

[teal crystal]

egpyt, morocoo, ethiopia

gpt is boom

[whole bear]

fucking lmao, I said it's not geographically separate like every other continent, what do you have against that?

[spark girder]

https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2024/feb/09/tigray-ethiopia-war-drought-aid-suspended-hunger-crisis-death-desperation

[whole bear]

refer to the specific message?

[spark girder]

https://www.wfp.org/emergencies/ethiopia-emergency

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-68061876.amp

[teal crystal]

oh no
gpt scammed me : )

[whole bear]

you're pretty good evidence to that

[teal crystal]

wake up, here its 12:22PM
@spark girder

[spark girder]

[spark girder]

It’s 0152 for me

[whole bear]

to be continued

[spark girder]

Most definitely not

I hate statistics, I’m politically fueled and it’s unhealthy

[whole bear]

african starvation → europe is a continent, noted

[spark girder]

Was I right though? Are you Egyptian?

[whole bear]

I am

[spark girder]

I KNEW IT

🤣

[whole bear]

many countries have valid reasons to do that

africa was literally divided by the europeans in the last century, lmao

fueling your war with 1.5 million human from your colony's population is fucking cruel, even for a colonizer

wtf are you talking about, you're confusing a massive amount of time periods

go take a nap

[teal crystal]

is just few specific countries which do these cruelty on poor countries
like china, britain, france, etc.

[teal crystal]

he is chatting from top of a egypt pyramids
: )

@whole bear
have a breakfast, it's 9:05am

[vestal merlin]

https://github.com/logisim-evolution/logisim-evolution

[whole bear]

@spark girder you gave me good insight on how far information bias can go, thank you

[somber heath]

@dense pike 👋

[whole bear]

@somber heath so do you have a take on this lighthearted conversation?

[somber heath]

Not particularly.

Starvation bad.

[whole bear]

certainly. starvation is not exactly my cup of tea

[celest oyster]

hello

[somber heath]

@celest oyster 👋

@hexed rose 👋

[vocal basin]

for some reason I've been seeing way more profiles with Cyrillics in them in VC in the past week than before
statistical anomaly

[somber heath]

@copper vector 👋

[vocal basin]

(Russia itself is banning Discord)

[somber heath]

@alpine merlin 👋

[alpine merlin]

hello

[whole bear]

why's Russia so based?

[vocal basin]

it's not

well, at least it's not as direct of a dictatorship as Belarus is

thanks to Trump, Russia still has more trans rights than USA

@somber heath in Russia, Russian equivalent of that word is not used that way

[vocal basin]

and it was the opposite for only 2.5 years iirc

mid-late 2022 to early 2025

[vocal basin]

Belarus has a certain degree of independence within the union state that comes from this

Russia can't do whatever it wants there yet

[astral coral]

@somber heath

[whole bear]

I like the abdomin with tits and upperbound vagina!

[somber heath]

https://tenor.com/view/u-wot-m8-gif-20998179

[vocal basin]

I'm working currently, won't be able to watch over the stream

[somber heath]

@merry viper 👋

[merry viper]

hi guys 👋

[teal crystal]

look this is the reason why admin took the decision to be strict and not allowing screen shares, chats, etc.

[vocal basin]

we can't control people's imagination

[merry viper]

what kind of projects do you guys work on?

[teal crystal]

you??

[vocal basin]

@somber heath (I meant through Discord)

[whole bear]

you mean my specific description that mentions woman's private parts? are you implying that they're shameful?

[merry viper]

i program discord multi-tool bots, video games and i have made numerous "roblox" games

via lua

[teal crystal]

@somber heath
evaluate this:
your_age <= 40

[somber heath]

@hollow shell 👋

[hollow shell]

hello

[vocal basin]

which implementation of WebSocket?

or the protocol as a whole?

[merry viper]

in general

[merry viper]

yeah

[hollow shell]

cat

[vocal basin]

if the protocol lets me reliably send 3 million messages per second even on a Celeron, I'm not going to complain about it

[merry viper]

hm

[teal crystal]

no option other than negative opinion

[teal crystal]

it's not for that, you that you have should use redis or rabbitmq or zeromq

[vocal basin]

if you ever think of using plain TCP, you should probably be using WebSocket instead

[vocal basin]

reliably as in not UDP-style

[teal crystal]

@somber heath
evaluate this:
your_age <= 40

[vocal basin]

also ZeroMQ

1. isn't inherently reliable
2. can run over WebSocket

[merry viper]

i use websocket but dont like it

[vocal basin]

as for redis, just no

don't

[somber heath]

!e ```py
class RequestDeniedError(Exception):
pass

raise RequestDeniedError('You do not have permission to access this information.')```

[wise cargo]

:x: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 1.

001 | Traceback (most recent call last):
002 |   File "/home/main.py", line 4, in <module>
003 |     raise RequestDeniedError('You do not have permission to access this information.')
004 | RequestDeniedError: You do not have permission to access this information.

[teal crystal]

your have to evaluate bcoz no one knows your age

[vocal basin]

!e

_ = PermissionError

[wise cargo]

:warning: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 0.

[No output]

[merry viper]

guys let me look at your "coding" playlist on spotify i want to see how different my music taste it to yours

[whole bear]

don't push hard

[vocal basin]

what I listen to doesn't relate to what I'm doing

!e

print(issubclass(Exception, BaseException))

[wise cargo]

:white_check_mark: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 0.

True

[teal crystal]

!e

raise Exception('You do not have permission to access this information.')

[wise cargo]

:x: Your 3.13 free threaded eval job has completed with return code 1.

001 | Traceback (most recent call last):
002 |   File "/home/main.py", line 1, in <module>
003 |     raise Exception('You do not have permission to access this information.')
004 | Exception: You do not have permission to access this information.

[merry viper]

what is better, vsc or pycharm?

[vocal basin]

better for what?

[merry viper]

overall for codinbg

coding

[somber heath]

!e py try: raise IndexError except Exception: print('A')

[wise cargo]

:white_check_mark: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 0.

A

[teal crystal]

why?
what you gonna use?

[vocal basin]

PyCharm has worse LSP, but is better at guessing and has slightly more advanced official extensions

[merry viper]

but that is expected as it is more "locked bvehind a paywall"

behind

[vocal basin]

should've at least said valkey, given redis is no longer open-source

[teal crystal]

looks like
you have achieved your passion early and now you are away from it professionally?

[somber heath]

Imagine as you will.

[vocal basin]

all reliable messaging functionality, that Redis has, is taken from Kafka

[merry viper]

does anyone know some good hosts, i am currently using ovh but it isnt VERY reliable.

[vocal basin]

Vultr is often recommended for when you need a VPS

[merry viper]

ok ill have a look.

[teal crystal]

digital ocean > vultr > linode(akamai)

[vocal basin]

that too

[merry viper]

havent heard of that,

got to go now fellas ill be back later 👋

[teal crystal]

why don't you tell something about you, Is their any reason behind it?

[vocal basin]

please stop asking someone questions they clearly don't want to answer.

you're not entitled to others' personal information.

[teal crystal]

just asking the reason why he prefer not to answer, if any

[vocal basin]

you don't need to know that reason.

[teal crystal]

what you gonna use where you can't use redis or it's alternative like in frontend

[vocal basin]

use for what?

for streams, Kafka

[teal crystal]

to send data to client

[vocal basin]

for key-value and whatever else storage, that's not the use of Redis I was arguing against

[vocal basin]

the client is not accessing redis

if they are, the product architecture is likely wrong

redis is absolutely not a "send data to client" thing

if by "client" you mean an internal service, you should be saying it more specifically

[teal crystal]

what you gonna use other than websocket @merry viper

[vocal basin]

I was never saying that

#voice-chat-text-0 message

(it was another user)

[teal crystal]

yep sorry

[vocal basin]

pub-sub and blocking list pop of redis can mostly just be replaced by ZeroMQ's built-in proxy function, streams are just Kafka, and whatever is left is unrelated to messaging and is what Redis actually should be used for

[teal crystal]

Is Zeromq reliable?

[vocal basin]

depends on what reliability requirements you have

and what underlying protocol you use, and what communication pattern you use

[teal crystal]

Communication Pattern
Pub-sub, event queue, ...
How many and what are they?
How many underlying Protocols are their?

[vocal basin]

messaging patterns (see https://zeromq.org/socket-api/):

• Request-Reply
• Pub-Sub
• Pipeline
• Exclusive Pair
• Client-Server
• Radio-Dish
• Scatter-Gather
• Peer-to-Peer
• Channel
• Stream (SOCK_STREAM)

supported protocols (source):

• inproc
• tcp
• udp
• pgm and epgm (PGM over UDP)
• norm
• ws and wss
• ipc
• tipc
• vmci

(I hope I didn't accidentally mislink anything)

and I don't actually know if there's a page for SOCK_STREAM

and the page for NORM is just some random thing form the old wiki

ZeroMQ on its own, with default configuration, does not provide message delivery guarantees

socket types mostly differ in how the handle being unable to deliver a message because of the queue being filled up

DEALER (makes requests) and PUSH (pipeline sender) block,
ROUTER and PUB drop the message

[celest oyster]

hello

@whole bear 👋

[whole bear]

hi there

i cant speak

[celest oyster]

I haven't sent enough messages to be verified

[somber heath]

!voice

[wise cargo]

Voice verification

Can’t talk in voice chat? Check out #voice-verification to get access. The criteria for verifying are specified there.

[whole bear]

how can i do that too

[celest oyster]

you have to send at least 50 messages

[whole bear]

then can i write a python script to give 50 message at a time

🥲

[wise cargo]

:incoming_envelope: :ok_hand: applied timeout to @whole bear until <t:1741353322:f> (10 minutes) (reason: duplicates spam - sent 4 duplicate messages).

The <@&831776746206265384> have been alerted for review.

[somber heath]

There are instructions in the #voice-verification channel I directed you to. You should have read them. 🙂

[candid panther]

!tvmute 1325468206327922773 "2 weeks" Spamming messages to up your message count is not the way to get voice verified. You can still join voice channels without being verified; you just have to get some legitimate server activity in order to get verified.

[wise cargo]

:incoming_envelope: :ok_hand: applied voice mute to @whole bear until <t:1742562393:f> (14 days).

[celest oyster]

yes

@cedar mason 👋

yes

no

ok

I'll wait for you

[celest oyster]

@full umbra 👋

[celest oyster]

@spiral lava 👋

[spiral lava]

Hi

@celest oyster hello

[celest oyster]

hello

[spiral lava]

Espeak spanish?

[celest oyster]

no

[spiral lava]

Man o girl?

[celest oyster]

@whole bear 👋

[whole bear]

hello there

[whole bear]

i cant talk

[vocal basin]

!voice

[wise cargo]

Voice verification

Can’t talk in voice chat? Check out #voice-verification to get access. The criteria for verifying are specified there.

[vocal basin]

also #voice-chat-text-1

(since we're in VC1)

[whole bear]

oks

@somber heath Hello there

Is the chicken-egg problem answered based on one's theological beliefs?

[somber heath]

I just know that eggs are delicious.

Also, so is chicken.

[whole bear]

cats are the absolute mistake of nature.

they make good city animals, they're basically extinct in the wild

[celest oyster]

hello

[whole bear]

cant talk

really 🤣

what if.. both didnt exists

[vocal basin]

what came before: chicken price increases or chicken egg price increases

[whole bear]

inflation matters

@vocal basin !u me

[vocal basin]

#bot-commands

[peak depot]

!user

[wise cargo]

You are not allowed to use that command here. Please use the #bot-commands channel instead.

[whole bear]

50 messages guys. 🥳

it was easy

[vocal basin]

#voice-chat-text-0 message

[vocal basin]

@peak depot

[wise loom]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eq_raLiWPSs

an entire zoo in one person

[whole bear]

yep, I sure do like to see americans trying to assert cultural dominance over everyone else

[wise loom]

🦒 🐻 🐯 🐐 🐱 🐶 🫎🐒

[somber heath]

@bronze pendant 👋

[quartz beacon]

Zierzyn

[whole bear]

I like myself, I must be gay

https://tenor.com/view/buttefly-dog-butterfly-dog-собака-бабочка-gif-3477745535671394965

[quartz beacon]

no you're an Egosexual

Greek is a language

it has rules

[somber heath]

https://tenor.com/view/everyone-has-to-follow-protocol-pc-principal-south-park-season23ep03shots-following-the-rules-gif-19444359

[whole bear]

Sometimes I feel like no one can match my charm, I like myself so much 😍

[quartz beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/bunny-dance-cute-fluffy-gif-15415017485564982843

[whole bear]

Somehow my mind is focused on background 😉

[vocal basin]

"not enough charm? let us introduce you to our sponsor, JetBrains, and their ✨brand new✨ product, PyCharm Professional"

[somber heath]

The floor?

[whole bear]

Pycharm itself is gay, just like me

[vocal basin]

now I have a question, when did PyCharm get released

[whole bear]

Nah I'm not trolling but, I wish I could!

Nah I didn't call him fat

I asked himAre you fat?
Because he seems chubby to me

[bronze pendant]

@somber heath 👍

[whole bear]

Sometimes my responses are completely random

[vocal basin]

but are they random enough to be considered cryptographically random

[rugged root]

Damn near

[whole bear]

Maybe

[vocal basin]

knowing how old IntelliJ IDEA is

(older than Eclipse)

[vocal basin]

2010

[whole bear]

How about Vscode?

[vocal basin]

Spyder is older than PyCharm

by less than a year

[warm jackal]

Wut? Eclipse is older than 2010, no? Wdym?

[vocal basin]

2010 is PyCharm release

[whole bear]

I think the oldest IDE would be turbo C?

[vocal basin]

Eclipse is newer than IntelliJ IDEA

[rugged root]

Woah woah woah woah

What?

[vocal basin]

and this is why telling something to hemlock is funny:
you can repeat the same thing each N months and he won't remember

[rugged root]

Damn right

Blame the meds

[vocal basin]

Turbo Pascal is older

[warm jackal]

/mind blown!

[tacit crane]

Hi Everyone

[vocal basin]

VSCode is very new, 2015

[whole bear]

I think it's best IDE

[vocal basin]

@rugged root it is wrong but it did not sound wrong

vue 2014, react 2013

[rugged root]

It was a test

You passed

[whole bear]

React is old now, lynx is a new deal?

[astral coral]

@rugged root may I stream?

[rugged root]

!stream 1157723305265078272

[wise cargo]

✅ @astral coral can now stream until <t:1741360272:f>.

[vocal basin]

@rugged root the thing you used is the oldest I think

out of good enough ones

Elm

2012

[whole bear]

Which is the oldest popular framework in use?

[vocal basin]

okay, nvm, Angular is older

(Angular 1)

though I have some doubts about it being reactive

[whole bear]

I think it's .NET framework

It's oldest

[vocal basin]

ASP?

I had to debug/fix ASP somewhat recently

on XP

[rugged root]

Oh no, I thought Elm was newer than all of those

[vocal basin]

to be clear: this is what I'm filtering by

[rugged root]

Thus my current confusion

[vocal basin]

Elm is where React came from

[rugged root]

https://tenor.com/bnHxa.gif

[somber heath]

@severe notch 👋

[rugged root]

I don't think I've ever known that

[whole bear]

I think the react native killer has arrived "lynx"

China is progressing day by day

[vocal basin]

bcantrill describing installing the Elm compiler said something like:
"I though there was no software written in Haskell, now I think there's too much software written in Haskell"

[vocal basin]

RxJS is 2015

Angular's reactivity was based on RxJS in 2020

[whole bear]

But why haskell?

[vocal basin]

they, I think, now moved those mechanisms into the framework itself

[somber heath]

@twilit spruce 👋

[vocal basin]

Elm <= Haskell people writing web frameworks

[whole bear]

Hmm interesting

[vocal basin]

???

[astral coral]

@rugged root sorry I was streaming the wrong screen :S

[vocal basin]

0.0.0 -> 5.0.0 -> 5.0.2

[warm jackal]

Typo?

[vocal basin]

that page might be incomplete

[astral coral]

@rugged root sorry, can you re-intiaite stream perms?

[rugged root]

!stream 1157723305265078272 3w

[wise cargo]

✅ @astral coral can now stream until <t:1743174830:f>.

[vocal basin]

ReactiveX got open-sourced in 2012

[upper basin]

Senseless

Centsless

[vocal basin]

I might've used this one

or a port thereof

[somber heath]

banana
katana
kanana
batana

[vocal basin]

what's the non-dosboxed equivalent of Turbo Pascal for Windows XP

@peak depot 1/2

@rugged root megaseconds

@peak depot 2/2

[vocal basin]

in Voronezh we got a BMW signalling a "thanks" to us in the traffic, one in a century event

[vocal basin]

I remember it was textual

so not the PascalABC.NET or whatever

[tacit crane]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/uJ5FtwT6dek

[vocal basin]

ISS computers are using Linux
that's why there is no sound in space

I've encountered more driver issues per hour of usage on Windows than on Linux

especially pentablet drivers

those were pre-installed on Linux in my case

no extra actions required

[somber heath]

@wheat depot 👋

[vocal basin]

@peak depot one of the more memorable last such choices I made in a game was to attempt playing Code Vein with default weapons

which are
a metal pipe
and
a piece of concrete on a metal pipe

one does no damage, the other is extremely slow

[teal crystal]

when i just don't want any persistent but all connected clients to pub-sub should get the event if they are online
then is it fine to use redis?

[vocal basin]

are there multiple sources of events too?

i.e. many-to-many pub-sub

[teal crystal]

nope just max 3, mostly 1 only

[vocal basin]

that question is there because you might not even need an intermediary

[teal crystal]

my friend @astral coral what you have created
👍

[vocal basin]

if your clients are users, you should probably be using socket.io;
if it's service-to-service, then ZeroMQ PUB/SUB is enough when the set of event sources (and/or event subscribers) is static and easy to configure

[whole bear]

gimp, nice

[vocal basin]

socket.io may use Redis as a backend adapter, btw, if you need to deal with multiple servers

(but that's still targeting browsers as its primary clients anyway)

[somber heath]

@indigo cloud 👋

[jade mountain]

@somber heath thoughts?

[warm jackal]

Why ZeroMQ instead of RabbitMQ/Kafka? =) Just wondering if there's a reason, and if so, why

[vocal basin]

if you just don't want to deal with such configuration and you're fine with redis being an intermediary for all messages, then it should be fine

[somber heath]

World cold and hard. Heated Infinity Pillow soft and warm.

[vocal basin]

Kafka and RabbitMQ provide persistency guarantees at the cost of performance

RabbitMQ is extremely slow

[jade mountain]

on the ui i meant

[vocal basin]

(and Kafka is not)

Kafka is a very different model

it's "streams" not "pub-sub"

[somber heath]

Seems decent. Prepare a light mode to accompany it.

[vocal basin]

Redis and RabbitMQ (not generic AMQP) provide both of those

I think generic AMQP includes pub-sub

AMQP is extremely complicated, and has a lot of protocol overhead

Redis is relatively light as a protocol; Kafka too

[warm jackal]

I was looking at this one the other day, and I'm not sure I see the performance cost? Maybe I'm ignorant/not seeing the forest for the trees
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPkOsXKG4ns

[vocal basin]

I've seen the performance of RabbitMQ myself, it was not okay

and now to the point of why not Redis/RabbitMQ/Kafka in general,

ZeroMQ has no extra broker

it provides a direct connection between the sender and the receiver

@amber raptor another opportunity to shill beanstalkd

[somber heath]

@zinc elm 👋

[vocal basin]

.

so true

in postgres you can even subscribe to changes

[amber raptor]

Yep

[warm jackal]

Does ZeroMQ have any transmission guarantees? Like Kafka?

[vocal basin]

Redis Streams is just Redisified Kafka, according to docs

[vocal basin]

short answer: no

[vocal basin]

(all the terminology is lifted from there)

[amber raptor]

I’d go with database if you have one, beanstalkd rabbitmq kafka

[vocal basin]

at work we've witnessed RabbitMQ hitting performance limits, but it itself did not fail, something writing to it did (without breaking other services)

[somber heath]

@bleak hare 👋

[bleak hare]

Hi

[vocal basin]

I guess it has some prioritisation (i.e. if A writes 1M and B writes 1, then that one message from B must be delivered)

[bleak hare]

where can i find startups that need employe

[vocal basin]

you can't find those directly in this server, but you can probably ask which platforms offer such services in #career-advice

the answer will probably be linkedin

[bleak hare]

ok tnx u

[amber raptor]

We had RabbitMQ pushing 2500 msg a second at peak without issue so 🤷‍♂️

And that’s a ton of traffic

It was .Net though

[vocal basin]

in our case it was a bug causing numbers way higher than that

bug in not my code, which I warned against multiple times

[amber raptor]

Sure, bugs aside

But 1000/msg per second is a ton of traffic

[vocal basin]

(assuming that whatever RabbitMQ is used for actually needs those delivery guarantees, yes)

[whole bear]

@vocal basin I'd like to ask you question?

[vocal basin]

what's the question?

[whole bear]

How would you approach a woman?

[vocal basin]

as in?

[vocal basin]

@rugged root I did not progress far in it, but, judging by how I still have the currency thing, my last encounter did not end in a death

so I guess still zero deaths

metal pipe gaming

[rugged root]

HA

Man I need to play Code Vein again

Such an underrated game

[vocal basin]

no custom non-default weapons, no companion

idk if I want to continue this challenge

[whole bear]

For example :-
I saw a girl, she is smart and share same interest as me but I have no intention to be romantic or something like that.
I'd like to just make her my friend, but how should I approach her?
I mean she can misunderstood me and my intention and may think I'm weirdo or simp

[rugged root]

That's going to be stressful

No bloodcode changes?

[vocal basin]

I'm not close enough to that stage yet I think

[vocal basin]

idk how it is wherever you live, but where I am no one really cares so such misunderstanding doesn't happen

[jade mountain]

@rugged root what do you think of this excellent satisfying code structure

[teal crystal]

let say if i have multiple clients then how it gonna be used?
i think ZeroMQ is good option when you want to do bi-directional communication between services
but here, grpc comes to replace it

[vocal basin]

people are more likely to feel like you're weird because you're presuming they might think that way;
if you really mean nothing weird, just approach them without any changes to your behaviour based on their gender;
if they misunderstand, it's a them problem

[rugged root]

I do like that

[vocal basin]

is it autoformatter or manually formatted?

[jade mountain]

i use it to validate input coming from users on my website :3

[jade mountain]

formatted?

[vocal basin]

because

Class({
    "key": "Value",
})
```style of formatting is not that frequent in Python autoformatters

[jade mountain]

oh that would be me

i think it looks good

[teal crystal]

from where Structure, String, Array are coming?
is it from pydantic?

[vocal basin]

black, I think, formats it as

Class(
    {
        "key": "value",
    },
)

[jade mountain]

they are my own classes

[vocal basin]

and I don't know how to change it to do like what you do and what rustfmt does

[rugged root]

Would that be the case if you removed the trailing commas?

[jade mountain]

i obtained the power of ({ }) from using javascript Array.forEach((entry) => {})

[whole bear]

Okay

@astral coral Your drawing is sus

[teal crystal]

@astral coral
can you show your game by running it

[jade mountain]

its been 2 years since i had disabled all the appearance and performance of windows

windows move very smoothly now ;3

[vocal basin]

@peak depot was Rebels pre-Disney?

[whole bear]

But I used to have a friend, she find it annoying that I called her "sis", eventually she blocked me all of the sudden.
I think some woman do have intention different to the person whom they are in friendship.
I lost her she was great friend of mine as she helped me with programming.

I wouldn't like give them room of such a possibility from very start, as I feel like as it's me who was responsible for all of these.

[whole bear]

why don't you just not do that lol

there's really no problem at all

[vocal basin]

@rugged root lmao I've just realised I was fighting that code vein swamp boss without slowness resistance

brave decision that was, last long it did not

[rugged root]

You're a braver one than I

Typing is easier. Co-worker is indeed back here

Sorry

Tax season at its finest

❤️

I miss the corner

Well I am technically in a part of the building called the annex

That's the x10nt of what I'll call you

!rule 4

[wise cargo]

Rules

4. Use English to the best of your ability. Be polite if someone speaks English imperfectly.

[rugged root]

^^

This'n

I legit thought he was going to ask if x10 was single

My hopes were dashed

Now I'll never know

I just now realized I get sassier when I'm typing

[vocal basin]

I managed to dodge while it slowed state woohoo

now I'm attempting to fight it at basically 0 distance all the time

[rugged root]

Still piping it up?

[rugged root]

That looks amazing

[warm jackal]

That's for me to know, and you to find out ;)

[rugged root]

HA

[astral coral]

going shoppie, brbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbs

[rugged root]

Go for it

I mean... I would assume that in any place you would/should get trained at the new place

Even as a senior

[vocal basin]

I almost instantly got thrown into being a mentor for someone else, there was no being mentored first

[astral coral]

@rugged root what do you think of the gory dungeon concept?

[rugged root]

In fairness you're too damn smart for your own good

[rugged root]

Love it. This inside of a big monster or some sort of demon realm or meat for the sake of meat?

[astral coral]

Necrorealm

[rugged root]

Too real

[astral coral]

:L thanks man!!! 😄

[rugged root]

Yeah that's awesome!

[astral coral]

Brbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbs

[rugged root]

@pine depot I just talked to a tech called Arvind

He was so figgin' awesome

[vocal basin]

the what just happened
so it goes into its first stunned state,
as soon as it goes out of it, it gets into another stunned state

I'm dealing way too much damage

(while slowed)

[rugged root]

Nice

Midnight UTC-0

Yep

There are

Yellow is helper

#roles

[whole bear]

Wdym?

[whole bear]

which part is confusing?

In my country in IT proportion of Woman is higher than Man

and?

[vocal basin]

"if someone finds you calling them a certain word annoying, why not just stop using that word?" presumably

[whole bear]

and ur comment doesn't make sense, could you elaborate what does it mean?

[whole bear]

I mean it's my intuition that she maybe annoyed when I refer her "sis" but In Hindi I used respectful title to refer her.
And I think her intention where different.
That's what I meant!

if you're not sure about the trouble of befriending a specific group of people, why don't you just not

[whole bear]

So I should not befriend woman at all?

Great advice!

if you say so.

[rugged root]

Back, sorry

Had to talk with a partner

[vocal basin]

casual discrimination

[whole bear]

the point is that he has no urgent need to do so

[vocal basin]

you're not obliged to befriend anyone, but if you avoid talking to someone only based on them being a part of some group, that is generally not okay

[rugged root]

And would only reinforce your hesitation further down the line

People are people. If you find them cool and want to talk to them, rock on

If not, then don't

[teal crystal]

someone here uses polars?
i want to discuss something

[rugged root]

Now, I will say, when you first talk to someone and get to know them, you usually try to keep the more intense jokes or stuff like that to yourself. Once you find that comfort zone or where the boundaries are, then you can be more fully open and yourself. That's pretty natural

And a lot of people do that without thinking about it. Common social interaction

But that shouldn't be taken as hiding yourself or changing yourself

And if you have to change your entire behavior just to be friends with someone then they probably aren't someone you'd want to keep as friends long term

[whole bear]

I do agree

[vocal basin]

there's a codewars challenge to check if a binary-encoded number is divisible by 7

[teal crystal]

@jade mountain what song are you listening?

[whole bear]

Why not raised it to 21?
Same as age as legal age to drink

But it should be 21

[jade mountain]

huh

[whole bear]

https://tenor.com/view/zak-hi-zak-gif-24680487

https://tenor.com/view/zak-neo-neo-op-gif-26035930

[vocal basin]

meanwhile four Alisas in almost one place

[whole bear]

https://tenor.com/view/bingus-bingus-loves-zac-zac-zac-loves-bingus-bingus-love-gif-26451706

[teal crystal]

@astral coral
looks kidney is bleeding

[celest oyster]

hello

[vocal basin]

and this is why, if you want to mess with the filesystem, you should be doing it inside Docker

[teal crystal]

@astral coral
now your floor is looking like a monster face

[whole bear]

https://tenor.com/view/tarsher-chewing-big-eye-gif-15220746

[jade mountain]

\\.\globalroot\device\condrv\kernelconnect

[alpine crater]

(what we making?)

[whole bear]

neovim is such a surrogate activity

[jade mountain]

my mongodb is having issues

[alpine crater]

art is hard

[celest oyster]

my server is dying

[jade mountain]

my gpu is always at 89c

[alpine crater]

(why we using paint?)

[jade mountain]

paint is the best material creation engine of all time?

[alpine crater]

at least with other tools you can have all the sprites open as tabs

[teal crystal]

@jade mountain
why you didn't tried digital ocean/vultr/linode(akamai)
you can downgrade unless you want to downgrade to plan not having same storage of your current plan
and you can upgrade & downgrade any time

[vocal basin]

there's this one attack that I always dodge incorrectly for whatever reason

like I understand all attacks are supposed to be dodged towards the boss not away but I just forget it each time

[alpine crater]

tilesheets

[jade mountain]

@rugged root

[alpine crater]

omg I have had those

I failed them 3 times in a row

and they dont tell you if you get one wrong until you answer all 10

its fucking hell

[teal crystal]

@jade mountain just open terminal and type python and then evaluate

[alpine crater]

(atleast iirc)

[rugged root]

Or.... a calculator

[teal crystal]

yep but i don't like bcoz i can run code in terminal

[rugged root]

Fair

[teal crystal]

like 8//2 or 5%3, but not in calculator

[vocal basin]

yeah 1 and 6

horrors

[teal crystal]

i think their are some websites or api to solve the captchas try them out
: )

[rugged root]

https://tenor.com/jO7MZPjRxwJ.gif

[teal crystal]

share your screen, may be we all can help you

[alpine crater]

when I did it it was a similar thing but with darts

pretty sure its auto generated

[teal crystal]

i think your ip have huge traffic to digital ocean or it's blacklisted address or something like that
i haven't get any captcha till now from digital ocean
i used it many times
@jade mountain

[jade mountain]

impossible

[teal crystal]

from where you are using the website?

[rugged root]

!stream 489768070034882571

[wise cargo]

✅ @jade mountain can now stream until <t:1741368904:f>.

[teal crystal]

😂

[vocal basin]

@rugged root maybe numbers don't match to confuse the AIs too

@rugged root you are NOT beating the `being an accountant' allegations

[alpine crater]

side note, wtf is up with youtube musics volume, I have the volume slider as low as it can go and thats a good volume

clearly all devops people know math, hence this captcha is easy for them

[vocal basin]

@jade mountain Ted Captchinsky

[teal crystal]

who wants i can give you my virtual debit card number

[jade mountain]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/QFcQDxG0DDk

[teal crystal]

try using vpn and switch your country maybe you don't have to fill up those much captchas

[alpine crater]

that only applies to the police

[jade mountain]

crap

[teal crystal]

what is crap in this?

[jade mountain]

all of it

and i cant have ubuntu 20.04

[alpine crater]

.... same thing for cartons

[jade mountain]

i wish i didnt need to buy a server

i just need gigabit

thats it

[vocal basin]

@rugged root I defeated the thing

[jade mountain]

gigabit aint worth 84$ a month

[alpine crater]

you hold the milk cap while pouring?

[teal crystal]

i don't know but here in india we get option to select version with multiple OSes, also having image marketplace for like wordpress, cpanel, etc.

[rugged root]

That's friggin insane

[vocal basin]

only left clicks and heals

[teal crystal]

try only basic type droplet if you gonna other than this than most probably you can't go longer with it
i think those plans are for companies who need best thing with dedicated cpu and they are willing to pay the price of dedicated cpu

[spark girder]

Dogo

[vocal basin]

I'll go do it again

[teal crystal]

you can use digital spaces like s3 to host files

[rugged root]

https://www.vultr.com/

[teal crystal]

i find vultr is little bit expensive then digital ocean

https://www.vultr.com/pricing/

@jade mountain
why you need that much bandwidth when you don't get that much internet in your vps

[jade mountain]

what are you on about

if my vps has 10gig network it has 10gig internet

[rugged root]

https://www.liquidweb.com/lp/offers/vps-hosting/?cq_src=bing_ads&cq_cmp=580655958&cq_con=1260041985828864&cq_term=vps providers&cq_med=&cq_plac=&cq_net=o&cq_pos=&cq_plt=gp&utm_source=bing&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=LW-Microsoft-NA-US-en-SEM-NonBrand-Mix-VPS&utm_term=vps providers&utm_content=vps providers

[teal crystal]

you can go with AWS, but jeff besos will make you expensive bill for same thing you can get in vultr of around 20-30 USD

[golden sonnet]

👋 hi

[rugged root]

As is their way

[rugged root]

Yoooooo

[golden sonnet]

sup?

[rugged root]

Eh, working. You?

[golden sonnet]

just found out i was debugging something that didn't need debugging

i should document that :/

[teal crystal]

Jatty, it's linux it can handle that much traffic if it come
window may be eat up your ssd, ram, cpu due to it's virus scan
it happens to me in my laptop which gets unusable

[spark girder]

https://contabo.com/en-us/vps/

[teal crystal]

it's bandwidth usage not speed

in bare metal they just have 1Gbit/s port max

In port column, you can see if available

[golden sonnet]

why would i pay for ssl?

the lava lamp thing is cool

don't know

[teal crystal]

we have vodafone dog

[rugged root]

Dawg

[teal crystal]

i think they only have 1gig/s only

[teal crystal]

vodafone dog : )

https://hindi.cdn.zeenews.com/hindi/sites/default/files/2022/09/12/1316512-pug.png?im=FitAndFill=(600,315)

[golden sonnet]

are you going to fight dragons?

[alpine crater]

I hate debugging macros

yhe proc macros

[jade mountain]

;3

wuff ;3333

[teal crystal]

try using Warp terminal, maybe it help you somehow

[alpine crater]

I FOUND THE ISSUE

I used () instead {}

[rugged root]

Niiiice

[upper basin]

I saw yesterday yall were talking about quantum computing.

[vocal basin]

@rugged root getting to about this far without heals

[rugged root]

Yeah a couple people were debating/arguing/discussing it yesterday

[upper basin]

D'oh.

[teal crystal]

@jade mountain what is your use case for vps?

[spark girder]

wmic path softwarelicensingservice get OA3xOriginalProductKey

[upper basin]

I am setting up a proper environment on phone. Only issue I have is cloning my repo now.

I'm using pydroid.

Hemlock?

Recap for this gent?

[teal crystal]

i am getting this

OA3xOriginalProductKey

[vocal basin]

termux

[upper basin]

Termux is an app?

My laptop is broken whoever asked.

[teal crystal]

@jade mountain
maybe they use digitally licensed

[vocal basin]

termux is now only installable from GitHub, they can't publish to Google Play anymore

[spark girder]

https://tenor.com/view/evil-smile-evil-evil-laugh-gif-14398336

[rugged root]

Why?

[teal crystal]

i used kms windows activator software to activate windows 10 pro
digital licensed now linked with my microsoft account

[upper basin]

Oh. Copy. I'll set it up on my phone. I wish vscode would work on phone.

[rugged root]

I don't remember exactly. Wasn't super important

[spark girder]

That'd be why

[vocal basin]

permissions

[spark girder]

It's not stored in the windows SLS if you're linking it to your microsoft account

[rugged root]

Ah, gotcha

[alpine crater]

shouldnt domain names cost the same in most places

at least for non-shitty providers

huh

(I just use cloudflare)

I was lucky enough to secure vivax.dev

[teal crystal]

@rugged root give me stream permissions

[vocal basin]

remember: Google Play is the same service that claimed a text writing app needed read-only access

[alpine crater]

@rugged root my .dev domain is just $12.18/year on cloudflare

[teal crystal]

checking domain for you : )
@rugged root

https://www.namecheap.com/domains/registration/results/?domain=mrhemlock

mrhemlock.com for 12USD/yr

.ai domains are now much more expensive than .com
it's for 90 dollars/yr

[spark girder]

https://www.namecheap.com/domains/registration/results/?domain=mrhemlock.com
mrhemlock.com - $11.28/yr renew at $14.98/yr

https://www.godaddy.com/domainsearch/find?domainToCheck=mrhemlock
mrhemlock.com - $.01/yr (for one year) renew at $21.99/yr

https://domains.squarespace.com/domain-search?channel=pnb&subchannel=go&campaign=pnb-go-us-en-core_domains_general-e&subcampaign=(action-lower_domain-purchase_e)&gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQiAz6q-BhCfARIsAOezPxmIAo7xRTExqO3AYTtu-VFf3SFXa_LJaVKNu33N_zLoTuiYP1wKoCgaAhssEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds
mrhemlock.com - $14/yr renew at $21.99/yr

https://www.domain.com/products/domain/domain-search-results
mrhemlock.com - $11.99/yr renew at $32/yr

https://www.hostinger.com/domain-name-search-results?domain=mrhemlock.com
mrhemlock.com - $5/yr renew at $17/yr

https://www.bluehost.com/products/domain/domain-search-results?path=domainFirstFlow
mrhemlock.com - $13/yr unkown renewal price

@rugged root

[teal crystal]

but when we transfer then where we transfer that provider charges more than normal
i saw one website doing this, i don't know which one right now

[alpine crater]

my logo is perfect /hj

[teal crystal]

for what?

[alpine crater]

https://github.com/vivax3794/natrix

the thing I am actively sharing my screen working on

[teal crystal]

let me try to ddos on you, if possible

[twilit raptor]

Map generation

[teal crystal]

i think you are having dedicated cpu
@jade mountain

[teal crystal]

looks value for money as compared to Mac

[teal crystal]

Oh it's vps, i thought it's physical hardware you want to buy

[alpine crater]

brb, dinneru.
-# maybe food can help me figure out this reactivity hell

[teal crystal]

yep that means it's v+ps - v = ps

[vocal basin]

VPSes mostly are VMs, nothing like Docker

unfortunately

[teal crystal]

private server

[vocal basin]

it should all be Zones

containers technically are part of "bare metal"

[spark girder]

vps -v = ps

vps / v = ps

[vocal basin]

because you're abstracting syscalls not user code

well, then those companies are as wrong as you

[teal crystal]

!e

print("You are having Private Server")

[wise cargo]

:white_check_mark: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 0.

You are having Private Server

[vocal basin]

I'll side with people like bcantrill who actually work on OSes, virtualisation and containers

[teal crystal]

guys you will blow my ears
please down your volume
my volume is 40 to 30% now

[vocal basin]

@twilit raptor I can't watch over the stream right now, focusing on something else

[twilit raptor]

ok, sorry

[vocal basin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=coFIEH3vXPw

@spark girder that is just a wrong definition

what you're describing is a marketing term not a technical term

[upper basin]

AF. I downloaded using play store. Should I uninstall and install through the GitHub repo?

[vocal basin]

@spark girder no, that's not how definitions work

[teal crystal]

but i think you need to some software to control that server and you can control it from a dashboard

[spark girder]

That literally is, time and time again words definitions change because a larger group of people can agree that the new definition is correct

[vocal basin]

wrong definition doesn't replace the correct definition;
it exists alongside and must be pushed back against

[jade mountain]

what the hell is this

lemme view the status of my vps

[teal crystal]

is it your dashboard like cpanel?

[jade mountain]

i dont know

[vocal basin]

@amber raptor Zones were in large part developed for ease of deployment and operations

[jade mountain]

its contabo

[vocal basin]

a weird different world that was before docker

and slightly more robustly implemented

[teal crystal]

"""
I guess you are n the 10GB plan with any premium CPU “- Droplets with Premium CPUs have a network throughput limit of 10 Gbps. All other Droplets have a maximum network throughput limit of 2 Gbps.” 10GPS is the theoretical output of the ethernet card, so 7GBps is really good
"""

digitalOcean

[vocal basin]

but not Linux, therefore mostly died out

[amber raptor]

Zones?

[vocal basin]

Solaris/illumos/SmartOS Zones

[amber raptor]

Oh

Yea, I only care about Linux most of the time

[jade mountain]

im not using do

[vocal basin]

they made a Docker Host interface for it

idk if it's still functioning

[vocal basin]

single endpoint for a whole data centre

[amber raptor]

Because Kubernetes is too much.

[spark girder]

https://www.andrewclements.com/books/frindle

It's a good book

[teal crystal]

what plan are you using?
In how much you get 10gig/s bandwidth

[jade mountain]

i only got 1gig

10 cores and 32gb ram

[teal crystal]

you are using windows?

[vocal basin]

I can watch now, gaming stopped

!stream 692320675465265265

[wise cargo]

✅ @twilit raptor can now stream until <t:1741373957:f>.

[vocal basin]

@amber raptor I looked up and that thing predates kubernetes by... 4 days

the only legitimate reason to make kubernetes: kubernetes doesn't exist yet

@rugged root graphqueal

[teal crystal]

BRO_Fedka
your name looks similar to Wodka

[twilit raptor]

Sometimes

[teal crystal]

anyone tried Kali Nethunter?

[upper basin]

https://www.reddit.com/r/termux/comments/10ddnij/how_to_run_vs_code_with_the_help_of_termux_on/

[vocal basin]

Joyent and now Oxide have been making stuff that directly competes with common solutions;
so for them it's more of "what we saw in those common solutions is so horrible that we actually have to make our own"
(e.g. Docker not being secure by design, BIOS being bad, firmware bad, etc.)

[teal crystal]

if you installed from gpstore then it won't work
@upper basin
gpstore has very older version of termux
install from github

[rugged root]

Porkbun
mrhemlock.com - $11.06 / year and renews at $11.06

[upper basin]

Let's see the version.

[teal crystal]

they don't have initial welcome discount other offers

[rugged root]

Spaceship
mrhemlock.com - $8.88 per year and renews at $9.98

https://www.spaceship.com/

[vocal basin]

@upper basin if you need xfce in termux, you're probably doing something wrong

UI is not the way there

neovim is the way

[upper basin]

I am following the reddit guide. Honestly I am not sure what I'm doing.

I installed from Google play. Then started following the guide from reddit.

[rugged root]

@spark girder https://www.spaceship.com/domains/transfer/

[teal crystal]

if you know hindi or you can turn on captions
watch video of code with harry, how to install vscode in termux
he will guide through each step

[upper basin]

I don't unfortunately.

[vocal basin]

I intentionally registered certain domain name with a registrar separate from the rest of the domains

just to be safe(r) in case of Russian law situations

[rugged root]

Was gonna say

[teal crystal]

https://youtu.be/0L-OmTOeajU?si=2Gsdp0aOHu39Qsg8

see this one and turn on captions
his videos always have english captions

[vocal basin]

you probably should be using neovim not vscode if you're using termux

especially if you're on a phone not a tablet

[upper basin]

On phone yes.

I could project to TV though.

Or somehow to my monitor.

I mean with a keyboard and mouse and a monitor, it would be basically a PC.

For my purposes.

[teal crystal]

yep
that vscode works in browser and vscode in mobile browser sucks, it won't work fine
and you need keyboard to use it properly

[vocal basin]

if you want it on external screen => vsc server
if you want it on the phone itself => neovim

[upper basin]

Fot now let's try vsc.

[vocal basin]

you shouldn't do anything xfce/x11 related

[upper basin]

And with vsc can I replicate what I had on my laptop?

Like make venv, clone repo, make PR, etc?

[vocal basin]

vsc server and opening it in the browser is preferred

[teal crystal]

i used my LED TV as monitor but later find that why people prefer monitors for pc
unless you don't have to sit just few cms away

[upper basin]

Vsc server you mean vscode.dev?

[vocal basin]

either that or fully self-hosted

[upper basin]

Isn't vscode.dev limited in terms of features it provides?

[teal crystal]

simply use github codespaces you won't need to setup anything in your phone

[vocal basin]

(gh codespaces are time-limited)

[upper basin]

Make a codespace on github and then how do I use them on phone?

[vocal basin]

((beyond a certain limit you need to pay))

[upper basin]

Yeah.

[vocal basin]

opening it in the browser

[upper basin]

Kinda want to get the termux to work.

[upper basin]

I see.