just got here
#voice-chat-text-0
mellow karma
north goblet
@mellow karma My bad
rugged root
Not much, 'bout you mnky?
marble mantle
@rugged root was "locked" in the context of "compiled" an intentional pun?
rugged root
It was indeed
mellow karma
Not much, 'bout you mnky?
not kuch, too, struglling a little to get back at python
much
north goblet
Has anyone used mica for everyone here?
marble mantle
just put more effort into copying
copy character by character
now you're ashamed and tired
north goblet
now you're ashamed *and* tired
wdym?
quartz beacon
https://github.com/MrHemlock/aioSpaceTraders/blob/main/src/new_traders/errors.py
Rat with glasses
I might join in a bit
mellow karma
i actually need money rn
rugged root
Don't we all
mellow karma
@quartz beacon how much ?
marble mantle
<@327179626306863104> how much ?
"reminder: you need to do it in person and travel prices are not included"
mellow karma
fine by me
mellow karma
I drink 2.92 l of water daily
good numbers really
whole bear
@quartz beacon How tall are you?
slender nova
rugged root
We've got a fair number on the server
somber heath
Are mothers also considered women developers?
rugged root
Just not a lot that frequent the VC
whole bear
One can use DeOldify for colonization of old photos or digital image
peak depot
rugged root
@whole bear Yo
whole bear
yo
rugged root
!stream 266030641382948865
wise cargoBOT
✅ @faint raven can now stream until <t:1732290592:f>.
marble mantle
why is there a horse named VS Code Red
https://highpointperformance.com/portfolio-items/vs-code-red/
amber raptor
Horses also have to have a unique name
somber heath
xXHorseXx
somber heath
Bobby "Horseface" Tables.
quartz beacon
Bobby "Horseface" Tables.
Bojack Horseman
marble mantle
it was something like -2 degrees Celsius a ~week ago where I am
and now the mosquitos are already back
how
temperature goes slightly above 0 and they instantly defrost
rugged root
That is.... warmer than I would expect it to be there
rugged root
It'd be scary if they start sucking your blood and then just freeze there
marble mantle
"if"
steep vortex
https://github.com/MrHemlock/aioSpaceTraders/blob/main/src/new_traders/primitive...
I saw this and then looked up what space traders API was, I may play around with this
peak depot
rugged root
Should hopefully have it done Soon™
"Wait this isn't real poo... This is a SHAMpoo!"
marble mantle
why not htmx httpx
peak depot
need to go
marble mantle
I'd assume it's how it's in-browser
you see path-like, you add base
you see url-like, you use as is
can you share-copy a session but change the base?
(share the state in that)
^ this can be done with a wrapper
rugged root
Oh neat
marble mantle
can you share-copy a session but change the base?
... but then there's a question whether that's ever needed
rugged root
Yep
marble mantle
^ this can be done with a wrapper
after reading through stuff, aiohttp.Session kind of is that wrapper
rugged root
Oh, now I remember why I swapped
marble mantle
around a connector
south loom
I tell ya, if I don't get voice verification tomorrow, I'm going to have to just sit here a stew and you all will feel my simmering discontent, lol
marble mantle
@rugged root
judging by its use in unix, | is a horizontal pipe, it's just very short
rugged root
Is that different than |?
south loom
@rugged root you're on "diet m*th" as well? lol
I had to make loads of calls to pharmacies during the shortage.
rugged root
<@98195144192331776> you're on "diet m*th" as well? lol
It fucking suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucks
marble mantle
Is that different than |?
illustration with mario pipe
rugged root
rugged root
!charinfo {
wise cargoBOT
marble mantle
well at least :: works
marble mantle
just braces
Аlisa's explanation:
#voice-chat-text-0 message
fireship
watch the cobol video, it's important
rugged root
Is it?
marble mantle
marble mantle
Is it?
key to understanding how much bs is intentionally included in the videos
not just that one
that one just happens to be so obvious to spot
@rugged root "so, an esoteric cult?"
rugged root
marble mantle
and it is unix, or at least a direct descendant thereof
(macos)
JS is single-threaded
you need to engineer multiprocessing into it
e.g. workers
exotic adder
@rugged rootare you staff of python discord
rugged root
Yep, one of the admins here
analog furnace
one question here should i continue using python for dsa or should i change it ?
exotic adder
getting paid?
rugged root
DSA?
marble mantle
data structures and algorithms
upper basin
getting paid?
No, it's volunteer work.
marble mantle
or digital signature algorithm
analog furnace
data structure ...
marble mantle
one question here should i continue using python for dsa or should i change it ?
learn both in Python and in C
upper basin
@rugged root there's a starman...
marble mantle
once you get familiar enough with higher-level uses in Python and lower-level uses in C,
move on to C++/Rust
Python lets you not think about memory management too much
and C is the opposite in that sense
upper basin
Yall need to watch Arcane. I need a crying buddy.
analog furnace
ohh actually when i practicing dsa on leetcode some question cant be solved using specific sytax which it was tought on lectures yt and i have spend like 1 hours or so to just solve which was imposible its fustrating
marble mantle
can you show an example?
analog furnace
did not tought *
north goblet
hugabuga
analog furnace
can you show an example?
k wait
north goblet
this server is hugabuga
north goblet
Python server has become more like reddit, whole bunch of reddit idiots and loner here
rugged root
Yep
upper basin
Python server has become more like reddit, whole bunch of reddit idiots and lone...
I'm a loner, and an idiot, but I am not from reddit good sir.
Glove slap.
north goblet
Go touch a grass
upper basin
Go touch a grass
If you touch it with me.
analog furnace
ok found it Merge Intervals (Medium) in this question you have to use max ( syntax ) i know that this is a very basic syntax but they dont teach this on yt leactures its so fustrating
can you recomend some links for lectures for this problemb
proud tangle
click "stay on top"
window goes beneath everything
stays beneath everything
I didn't click stay on bottom goddamnit
north goblet
bunch of incels in this server
analog furnace
bunch of incels in this server
ohhhhhhhh
rugged root
early morning groggy, voices are nice
Welcome to the PyDis podcast. Where everything's made up and the points don't matter
proud tangle
lol
analog furnace
bye no one is helping me 😦
marble mantle
ok found it Merge Intervals (Medium) in this question you have to use max ( synt...
!d heapq
wise cargoBOT
upper basin
bye no one is helping me 😦
Do you have a question?
Sorry, didn't see your question. Can you put it here again?
whole bear
bye no one is helping me 😦
marble mantle
I'm currently writing a few different solutions to find one that's easier to explain
upper basin
Or, just watch Arcane and lose your will to live. Both are good choices.
whole bear
Anyone from the third world in VC?
rugged root
I suppose
uneven urchin
<@761836412038807582> Yo
o/ just fighting some crashes in the background dont mind meeee
rugged root
Dumb question: primitive.py is the current name for my main logic file because it was just what I happened to name it when I was trying to do crude examples. But I'm not quite sure what it should be named. Like what would make the most sense given what it is: https://github.com/MrHemlock/aioSpaceTraders/tree/main/src/new_traders
marble mantle
also, in terms of work culture, it also shows whether you're willing to revisit the problem and improve upon the code or whether you just make it pass the tests
marble mantle
Dumb question: `primitive.py` is the current name for my main logic file because...
primitives (almost always plural) is what you build other things out of
desert vector
Dumb question: `primitive.py` is the current name for my main logic file because...
"is the current name for my main logic file..."
errmmm... logic.py?
marble mantle
so, yeah, probably needs to be changed, unless you explain it away with docs
it's a context quite sure
rugged root
Yeah I know primitive is the wrong name for sure
I need to change it, no question
logic.py feels weird too for some reason
marble mantle
context.py since its main export is a context manager
rugged root
I guess api.py Or wrapper.py
desert vector
the first one
rugged root
`context.py` since its main export is a context manager
It can be a context manager but it's not its main focus
And I'm tempted to remove that, since it'd kill the session object rendering the object itself useless
upper basin
# Keyword `class` followed by class name, starting with a capital letter
class Human:
# This is your constructor method
# It is how you make an object. You pass in a set of parameters to make an object, and it sets up the properties of the object.
def __init__(self, name) -> None:
# The attribute `name` is set to the value of the parameter `name` that was passed in.
self.name = name # atttributes of the object.
self.num_legs = 2
# This is a method
# It uses your object, and then does sth. Here, we say the guy is walking. I'm walking here!
def walk(self):
print(f"{self.name} is walking.")
# Not all functions within a class are methods.
# Methods start with the `self` keyword, like you see in `walk` and `__init__`
# These "methods" do not need an object, hence they are static methods.
@staticmethod
def talk():
print("I am talking.")
HA
desert vector
just implement the Talkable protocol :v
rugged root
Yeah that'd be pretty protocool if you did
proud tangle
You can consider classes like paper forms
Instances filled out paper forms
attributes the individual entries on each form
desert vector
can you instance me your social security number
(asking for a friend)
((i am the friend))
rugged root
Blueprints is another way of thinking of them
proud tangle
^
rugged root
You use those to create something. Car class? Makes a car object
rugged root
Yeah that'd be pretty protocool if you did
I deserve that 
desert vector
yes, yes you do
marble mantle
just implement the `Talkable` protocol :v
that'd be ``talk <someone/something>''
I can't remember any situation with this grammar except for special cases like ``talk shit''
marble mantle
so we have 2 instances so far
desert vector
can we go for 3
marble mantle
third
tepid mantle
yo! Is anyone able to help me with driver shit on debian?
rugged root
Maybe?
tepid mantle
my terminal isn't very happy 😦
tepid mantle
danke!
desert vector
rugged root
I leave that to Luna then
tepid mantle
one secconnnnddd
tepid mantle
so I have a new intel arc a750 🙂
desert vector
hoooboy
tepid mantle
I also have a debian machine I have plugged it into!
marble mantle
were the VC limits removed or am I just not seeing them?
rugged root
Oh it's a Debian one, that's going to complicate things even more
desert vector
were the VC limits removed or am I just not seeing them?
it never existed for this channel
tepid mantle
the debian machine recognises there is definitely a gpu in the gpu area
rugged root
Yes it did
desert vector
mmmm
rugged root
25 was the cap I set
desert vector
wasn't that for vc1
rugged root
And it's still the limit
tepid mantle
so now I need to find a way for it to use said gpu
rugged root
That's weird that it's not showing
marble mantle
it never existed for this channel
yeah, my bad, there wasn't any
*now we can gaslight Hemlock together*
rugged root
VC0 and 1 are 25, Code/Help is 5, Live-Coding 25
tepid mantle
so I tried some stuff and... broke some stuff!
desert vector
did you follow the mandatory obscure reddit thread?
tepid mantle
did you follow the mandatory obscure reddit thread?
couldn't really figure out what they were getting at sadly 😦
desert vector
mmmm
whole bear
👋 , I have 16 GB ram on my laptop and windows uses around 8 GB. Is there any distro that can be used instead of windows?
desert vector
okay, well, what did you do?
rugged root
My new glasses just got here. Fuck yes
Heading to the optometrist's here soon to get them.
tepid mantle
You might want to run 'apt --fix-broken install' to correct these.
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
libegl1 : Depends: libglvnd0 (= 1.7.0-2101~22.04) but 1.6.0-1 is to be installed
Breaks: libegl1:i386 (!= 1.7.0-2101~22.04) but 1.6.0-1 is to be installed
libegl1:i386 : Depends: libglvnd0:i386 (= 1.6.0-1) but 1.7.0-2101~22.04 is to be installed
Breaks: libegl1 (!= 1.6.0-1) but 1.7.0-2101~22.04 is to be installed
libgl-dev : Depends: libgl1 (= 1.7.0-2101~22.04) but 1.6.0-1 is to be installed
libgl1 : Depends: libglx0 (= 1.6.0-1) but 1.7.0-2101~22.04 is to be installed
Breaks: libgl1:i386 (!= 1.6.0-1) but 1.7.0-2101~22.04 is to be installed
libgl1:i386 : Depends: libglx0:i386 (= 1.7.0-2101~22.04) but 1.6.0-1 is to be installed
Breaks: libgl1 (!= 1.7.0-2101~22.04) but 1.6.0-1 is to be installed
libgles1 : Depends: libglvnd0 (= 1.7.0-2101~22.04) but 1.6.0-1 is to be
libgles2 : Depends: libglvnd0 (= 1.7.0-2101~22.04) but 1.6.0-1 is to be installed
libglvnd-dev : Depends: libglvnd0 (= 1.7.0-2101~22.04) but 1.6.0-1 is to be installed
libglvnd0 : Breaks: libglvnd0:i386 (!= 1.6.0-1) but 1.7.0-2101~22.04 is to be installed
libglvnd0:i386 : Breaks: libglvnd0 (!= 1.7.0-2101~22.04) but 1.6.0-1 is to be installed
libglx0 : Depends: libglvnd0 (= 1.7.0-2101~22.04) but 1.6.0-1 is to be installed
Breaks: libglx0:i386 (!= 1.7.0-2101~22.04) but 1.6.0-1 is to be installed
libglx0:i386 : Depends: libglvnd0:i386 (= 1.6.0-1) but 1.7.0-2101~22.04 is to be installed
Breaks: libglx0 (!= 1.6.0-1) but 1.7.0-2101~22.04 is to be installed
libopengl0 : Depends: libglvnd0 (= 1.7.0-2101~22.04) but 1.6.0-1 is to be installed
python3-pip : Depends: python3-distutils but it is not going to be installed
Depends: python3-setuptools but it is not going to be installed
Depends: python3-wheel but it is not going to be installed
Recommends: build-essential but it is not going to be installed
Recommends: python3-dev (>= 3.2) but it is not going to be installed
E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt --fix-broken install' with no packages (or specify a solution).
I mean I typically fob people off onto ubuntu
it's the most popular and easiest for those new to everything
tepid mantle
My new glasses just got here. Fuck yes
yay!!!
proud tangle
Linux should run perfectly on anything with 4gb of ram
Lighter distros go smaller but I think that's "plenty" for ubuntu and other full-featured ones
proud tangle
```installed
libgles2 : Depends: libglvnd0 (= 1.7.0-2101~22.04) but 1.6.0-1 is ...
oh lord what did you do
desert vector
damn dawg
tepid mantle
okay, well, what *did* you do?
well, I first tried the arch wiki way.... which I gave up on... then I tried https://chsasank.com/intel-arc-gpu-driver-oneapi-installation.html, also to no success
rugged root
Try 'apt --fix-broken install' with no packages (or specify a solution). Did you do that?
tepid mantle
oh lord what did you do
oops
whole bear
Lighter distros go smaller but I think that's "plenty" for ubuntu and other full...
Thanks
tepid mantle
`Try 'apt --fix-broken install' with no packages (or specify a solution).` Did y...
several times ;-;
proud tangle
This looks like a script problem
tepid mantle
IT basic questions, have to do it
yeah yeah I get it dw XD
marble mantle
I mean I typically fob people off onto ubuntu
big brain plan:
install 20.04 (because its installer has ZFS support),
upgrade to 22.04,
upgrade to 24.04
proud tangle
Some script installed specific package versions designed for a prior system state, and since it forced it, it skewed versions out of compatibility
rugged root
Sanders
desert vector
it's finger lickin' FUCKED
proud tangle
big brain plan:
install 20.04 (because its installer has ZFS support),
upgrade t...
ZFS should be there for 24.04 again in the installer
tepid mantle
what debian version are you on <@330030364431220737>
cant see the exact version but 12 latest
rugged root
Was it skipped in 22.04?
rugged root
dafuq?
proud tangle
IDK I don't understand canonical they make Decisions™️ I just report them
tepid mantle
and what's your kernel version
6.1.0-27-amd64 (64-bit)
marble mantle
ZFS should be there for 24.04 again in the installer
I might've not noticed it there
proud tangle
desert vector
6.1.0-27-amd64 (64-bit)
from what I understand, that kernel version is too old and has no support for the arc gpu at all
rugged root
Sounds right
marble mantle
I probably shouldn't try it in a VM right now given my current RAM usage
tepid mantle
from what I understand, that kernel version is too old and has no support for th...
welp, that would do it
Thats impressive you sleuthed that, that quickly
desert vector
6.3+ should do you good
rugged root
I probably shouldn't try it in a VM right now given my current RAM usage
How many gigs do you have?
marble mantle
it's a screenshot of commit memory (including cache and swap) not physical (excluding cache)
because the number is higher, therefore funnier
desert vector
welp, that would do it
Thats impressive you sleuthed that, that quickly
gooble skillz 
marble mantle
proud tangle
!resources ignore me
wise cargoBOT
proud tangle
tepid mantle
from what I understand, that kernel version is too old and has no support for th...
did
apt-cache search linux-image
but they all seemed like 6.1
proud tangle
What was taht list of common programming problems
it was like
a thousand of them
euclid or something?
marble mantle
!e
print(39+14+24)
:white_check_mark: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 0.
77
imagine:
Human(name="Tom") --> __repr__
"This human is named Tom!" --> __str__
@faint raven @neon shore
marble mantle
:white_check_mark: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 0.
```ansi...
I have no clue what the numbers number
~14gb swap
~25gb cache
tepid mantle
is it possible the old man distro (debian) doesn't support 6.3
desert vector
not really
marble mantle
110gb cached was fun while it lasted (on another computer)
upper basin
!paste
wise cargoBOT
upper basin
@faint raven https://paste.pythondiscord.com/RWYQ.
faint raven
@upper basin thank you! ❤️ 
upper basin
<@664667836605661217> thank you! ❤️ <a:805615961280610304:818709309462282251>
My pleasure!
tepid mantle
beep boop kernel not very nice
marble mantle
really should've went with PoE instead of usb c
tepid mantle
T-T
desert vector
really should've went with PoE instead of usb c
eeeeehhhh
i don't
know about that one
tepid mantle
so uhhhhhh, please can I have some more help?
rugged root
so uhhhhhh, please can I have some more help?
#unix should be able to help
tepid mantle
gotcha
desert vector
so uhhhhhh, please can I have some more help?
what's up this time
no no, come back
tepid mantle
oh hello
I have been following this guide for updating the kernel but nothing changed
marble mantle
really should've went with PoE instead of usb c
and SFP for transferring data out of the phone
at which point it's just a network card with a screen
tepid mantle
I didn't see any big issues when following the guide so I'm not sure what went wrong
currently having a look through it
I mean not much happens here
cosmic chasm
@mystic river
tepid mantle
sorry gotta go
rugged root
I do really like how many of the various unix commands got equivalent aliases in PowerShell
tepid mantle
thanks for the help!
marble mantle
I do really like how many of the various unix commands got equivalent aliases in...
with much more garbage in the output
marble mantle
illustration with mario pipe
@south loom
marble mantle
43521
faint raven
Wish yall a blessed day.
have a good night 😄
marble mantle
43521
it's not just day in the middle of a date, it's year in the middle of datetime
upper basin
have a good night 😄
Thank ye!
In 14 hrs, act 3 will drop. Yall better be ready for Dace tomorrow.
Dace: Dace is an urban slang for Depressed Ace, a state which Ace is deeply broken or depressed.
upper basin
Soggy bread.
With tears and sweat (my emotional side of the brain will be overclocked).
Heh, just imagined shitting myself out of grief HEHERH
"All the blood, sweat, tear, and excrement -"
"I'm sorry, what was that last part?"
rugged root
"Fuck it, he doesn't need lungs, I just have to change the heart
upper basin
I played Surgeon Simulator
God, the doctor usually does more harm than good.
"Whoop, his lung fell out of the ambulance."
"Wonder if I can scoop his eye out with a scalpel."
marble mantle
isn't media creation tool dead
oh
I just got trolled by microsoft site last time
it's still downloadable
rugged root
Yeah it's still the recommended way of making an install or repair media
marble mantle
reality got rebased and media creation tool sunset got removed from history
"the life is git and I'm a HEAD in a detached state"
that's DOM
and photoshop uses it too
rugged root
short owl
always good to have some money set aside for suprise sales
ohhh car tuning - your own interface ? @mystic river
does it plug into ODB port thingy ?
heard of the , Car Hackers Handbook @mystic river
shows CANBUS stuff
south loom
short owl
did you see the , right to repair stuff in relation to farmers fixing their own tractors @mystic river
marble mantle
importantly has versions
rugged root
Getting my new glasses and then airing up my tires. Back soon
short owl
This sounds like a job for , SUPERMAN !!! , reverse engineer the OS for tractors and cars @mystic river
faint raven
Getting my new glasses and then airing up my tires. Back soon
stay safe 🙏
short owl
reverse engineer without seeing the OS , what computer sys did that ?
spice fox
Maybe if they made good cars and not junk
marble mantle
reverse engineer without seeing the OS , what computer sys did that ?
wine?
wine don't allow windows devs to work on it
short owl
They are creating a enviroment , where people will NOT buy American products anymore @mystic river
people just buy Kamatsu tractors
@mystic river
rugged root
These are going to take some getting used to
short owl
you can be in movies easy
rugged root
Hardly
marble mantle
a what
short owl
last vid I saw for RTR , a senator also a farmer did the vid @mystic river
mmm heard Ukrain hackers have tools to get into tractor systems
@mystic river
terminator seeds @south loom
same shit different pile @mystic river
there is a additive for diesel that is carcinogenic , and the devices for city transit buses can be turned off/on , its off all the time so drivers get dosed with it , its only turned on when inspectors come @mystic river
ethically constrained ? @mystic river
mystic river
ethically constrained ? <@201208757697380352>
meant to say "unhonest"
short owl
arent a lot of businesses leaving California ? so much beurocracy , ( ya gotta liscence for that ?? ) @mystic river
mystic river
arent a lot of businesses leaving California ? so much beurocracy , ( ya gotta l...
yeah they are
short owl
isnt Elon , packing up leaving @mystic river
short owl
your adapting to the matrix , you will be one of us soon @rugged root
rugged root
Yeah doesn't help that my prescription changed so much
And on my old glasses the pupilary distance was just straight up wrong
So now it's just letting my brain reprogram itself to get used to the new sight
short owl
you spin me like a record baby round round - wheee @rugged root
rugged root
Yeah that's how it feels
short owl
it looks weird , because it is weird
rugged root
For sure
marble mantle
querySelector is universal
# is id
. is class
no prefix -- tag name (normally)
try and run maybe
usually getElementsByTagName can be replaced with querySelectorAll
querySelector[All] uses more or less the same syntax as CSS selectors
const [output0] = document.querySelectorAll("#id0");
const output1 = document.querySelector("#id1");
(querySelectorAll with an id generally doesn't make sense, since the page isn't supposed to have more than one element with the same id)
Hemlock decided to use `bop' as shortening
(even though it's technically `vor')
Voronezhian
I've lived in Russia for almost my entire life
I'm in a privileged region, so I face less of some issues
although it's considered to be less safe here
(because of surveillance that's sometimes more advanced than that of China)
querySelector is useful for complex queries like #someId .container .something.nested
marble mantle
things returned from getElements* functions work mostly like arrays
wise cargoBOT
marble mantle
(I'm assuming the code in question is beyond just a few lines, so use this pastebin)
modest valley
marble mantle
have you ran it through a debugger/tracer?
I think PyCharm has thread-tracing for Python so you can see whether something crashes
(idk if you have that installed)
modest valley
modest valley
have you ran it through a debugger/tracer?
I think PyCharm has thread-tracing fo...
mhh il check
I use VS
i do have pycharm installed
marble mantle
https://paste.pythondiscord.com/SVDQ
what is _update_output_thread for?
seems to just insert empty space over and over
modest valley
it makes the thread of the output system
so it doesnt clog up the server
it manages _update_output
marble mantle
it's _read_output that seems to be doing actual work with _update_output
marble mantle
do you know about GIL?
modest valley
no
marble mantle
Python's interpreter doesn't yet have true multithreading by default
modest valley
Python's interpreter doesn't yet have true multithreading by default
ohhhhh
marble mantle
it's running at most one piece of Python code at a time
so _update_output_thread being effectively a busy-loop could be causing issues
modest valley
so instead of
self.update_thread.start()
threading.Thread(target=self._read_output, daemon=True).start()```
id do
```self.update_thread = threading.Thread(target=self._read_output, daemon=True)
self.update_thread.start()```I do not need _update_output_thread
_read_output does the same as _update_output_thread but better
YES IT GOT FURTHER THAN THE FIRST!
i think the issue now is the serber file, which is easy to fix
marble mantle
after looking up, turns out the name I chose is based on a very misremembered phrase
modest valley
Oh wait, its still not working to well... mh
When i clicked stop after it stoped responding it gave this error
i think this is going some where
covert gazelle
Can Python be compiled?
modest valley
Can Python be compiled?
Yes with a module named pyinstaller
covert gazelle
And distributed like an executable?
modest valley
but it can be a bit wonkey sometimes
modest valley
And distributed like an executable?
yes
thats what pyinstallers for
search a video on it
can be a bit trickey
covert gazelle
Alright, thanks
marble mantle
Can Python be compiled?
python is always compiled to bytecode
it's just not redistributable
covert gazelle
Why is it compiled that way?
marble mantle
it's faster and easier to interpret byte code than text directly
covert gazelle
Text as in... source?
marble mantle
yes
covert gazelle
Gotcha
marble mantle
if you ever see a __pycache__ directory, you can look inside and see compiled files
covert gazelle
Alright
marble mantle
those are often specific to the current machine and cannot be executed somewhere else
covert gazelle
I see
marble mantle
so it's just an optimisation as to not recompile each time
covert gazelle
What's specific ?
marble mantle
some parts may depend on the current platform, although that's mostly going to be related to conditionally imported modules
as for distributable executables, there exists pyinstaller, yes
it's not very great but works well enough most of the time
requires quite a bit of configuration to get working on larger projects
and what it's effectively doing is just packaging bytecode of all imports used in a program alongside a python interpreter
marble mantle
!voice
wise cargoBOT
covert gazelle
You are not currently eligible to use voice inside Python Discord for the following reasons:
You have sent less than 50 messages.
Are the new MacBook Pros with M4 CPUs worth the money?
Black Friday is coming
mystic river
lmaooo, dont spam u might get muted or something
covert gazelle
It's a serious question
modest valley
Nah
modest valley
M4 is new. Black Friday is upon us
For coding i dont think
covert gazelle
Why not? Coding doesn't use CPU?
They have the new monitors with "nano" ?!?! tech?
Like iPod nano.
modest valley
Why not? Coding doesn't use CPU?
It does itnuses cpu
modest valley
Mhh i guess
But id prefer imtel or amd
Mac is a bit to advance 💀
Plus some modules may break with macs different things
Like os import isnt all that well with mac
Im yapping to much
Ima go, bye bye
covert gazelle
to advance?
Ok, so is Windows or macOS better for Python development. Still thinking about M4
From $1599 or $133.25/mo. for 12 mo.*
I can buy it month by month..
modest valley
Ok, so is Windows or macOS better for Python development. Still thinking about M...
Id prefer windows but if you cant find any good windows laptops with in your price range preferably amd chips, then go for mac, mac chips are still realy good
covert gazelle
A hobbist programmer
modest valley
to advance?
As in security and all that
past moon
why I can´t talk?
covert gazelle
Long battery life?
marble mantle
Ok, so is Windows or macOS better for Python development. Still thinking about M...
Linux+docker if you want the least troublesome Python development
covert gazelle
Right
past moon
macbook is trash i switched from windows to macbook adn it was a mistake
covert gazelle
Windows gets more viruses?
modest valley
A hobbist programmer
Mhhh, well you can also work on a mac, so maybe go for mac, but if you want to be more professional, i would personally recommend windows
marble mantle
MacOS has weird Docker support
probably best described as "existent"
modest valley
Windows gets more viruses?
YES
modest valley
So true
covert gazelle
Is it though?
past moon
hahahhaa
covert gazelle
Take a while yes
marble mantle
"windows has viruses, linux has security vulnerabilities"
modest valley
But the security lack makes it better for programming
covert gazelle
M44
Up to 24 hours video streaming
Up to 16 hours wireless web
72.4-watt-hour lithium-polymer battery
70W USB-C Power Adapter
USB-C to MagSafe 3 Cable
Fast-charge capable with 96W USB-C Power Adapter
M4 Pro5
Up to 22 hours video streaming
Up to 14 hours wireless web
72.4-watt-hour lithium-polymer battery
70W USB-C Power Adapter (included with M4 Pro with 12-core CPU)
96W USB-C Power Adapter (included with M4 Pro with 14-core CPU, configurable with M4 Pro with 12-core CPU)
USB-C to MagSafe 3 Cable
Fast-charge capable with 96W USB-C Power Adapter
M4 Max5
Up to 18 hours video streaming
Up to 13 hours wireless web
72.4-watt-hour lithium-polymer battery
96W USB-C Power Adapter
USB-C to MagSafe 3 Cable
Fast-charge capable with 96W USB-C Power Adapter
Seems like the M4 has more battery!
modest valley
Id love go continue this conversation with you guys but i have to go, cuz jts 23:34 for me, so cya
covert gazelle
GHz
But let's say it.. 24 hours sounds AMAZING, no?
24 hours!
How much is your Win laptop?
I asted it. Video streaming
modest valley
How much is your Win laptop?
I have pc
marble mantle
under high load it's still not bad
marble mantle
under high load it's still not bad
I'd expect 8~12h
covert gazelle
Does the M4 get more or less battery than M3?
covert gazelle
I am not voice verified
marble mantle
also its apple's weird arm64
marble mantle
how many hours of battery life
hopefully enough to wait for their store page to load for at least one time
looking at MacBooks...
48GB RAM 40-core sounds tempting
there's another take on what a "Chess app" can be: Take Take Take
spectating chess as a sport instead of playing it
cosmic chasm
@mystic river
gleaming thicket
uhh
drifting lava
i had a gummi duck in my shower
police raided me
and cut of the ducks head
wierd as it sounds its true
!voice
marble mantle
Elo is approximately exponential logarithmic scale
times <something> in strength translates to plus <something> in rating
@wraith pelican if it was actually open-source, was it Godot?
(I was away, couldn't reply ealier)
UE isn't open-source, but they give access to source code to licensees
loud yew
@cosmic chasm You are not better yourself
cosmic chasm
yes i am
cosmic chasm
<@632846457308839957> You are not better yourself
loud yew
also there is no one execpt darwin thats on the toilet
marble mantle
I totally missed the context of the last few minutes
was looking at unity's reference thingy
cosmic chasm
I totally missed the context of the last few minutes
i just talked about him being hewre when he could join one of his best freinds (darwin
loud yew
i just talked about him being hewre when he could join one of his best freinds (...
thats not on the mic
and is not talking
cosmic chasm
well, ur not on the mic right now either
cosmic chasm
and is not talking
you to ig
loud yew
nothing
cosmic chasm
he wants to play and i dont
why not
loud yew
idk i want to make that mod thing
cosmic chasm
@mystic river ? want to talk
loud yew
@cosmic chasm start slow and slowy progress
somber heath
@outer gust 👋
outer gust
hi
somber heath
!voice
wise cargoBOT
outer gust
ok, i see now one moment
coral meteor
been in here for longer than 3 days
wth
i cant verifi
and @somber heath u know i been in here longer than 3 days now
lol
how can i speak to admin or someone
ive done all that
messge count and stuf
only thing it says 3 days
but i been in here for longer than 3 day
Voice Gate failed
You are not currently eligible to use voice inside Python Discord for the following reasons:
You have been on the server for less than 3 days.
i jsut said bruh
u know i been in here for longer than 3 days
ahha
thats so dumb and ik i been in here 4 days now
outer gust
I cant speak hear now , I recently enter here
coral meteor
u know this ur self too bro i been in vc every day this week ahah
other than monday
outer gust
🥲
coral meteor
look at chats i been here since 19 th
loook in chats
i left on the 20 th and rejoined
thats dumb ahah
yall needa fix that bruh or make it 2 days people prob left this server cause of that
thats why i did XD
here i got yall
public class Ackermann {
public static int ackermann(int m, int n) {
if (m == 0) {
return n + 1;
} else if (m > 0 && n == 0) {
return ackermann(m - 1, 1);
} else if (m > 0 && n > 0) {
return ackermann(m - 1, ackermann(m, n - 1));
}
return -1;
}
public static void main(String[] args) {
System.out.println(ackermann(2, 3)); // output 9
System.out.println(ackermann(3, 2)); // output 29
}
}
public class ArrayRange {
public static int findRange(int[] array) {
return findMax(array, 0, array.length - 1) - findMin(array, 0, array.length - 1);
}
private static int findMax(int[] array, int start, int end) {
if (start == end) {
return array[start];
}
int mid = (start + end) / 2;
int max1 = findMax(array, start, mid);
int max2 = findMax(array, mid + 1, end);
return Math.max(max1, max2);
}
private static int findMin(int[] array, int start, int end) {
if (start == end) {
return array[start];
}
int mid = (start + end) / 2;
int min1 = findMin(array, start, mid);
int min2 = findMin(array, mid + 1, end);
return Math.min(min1, min2);
}
public static void main(String[] args) {
int[] array = {3, 1, 4, 1, 5, 9, 2, 6, 5};
System.out.println(findRange(array)); // Output: 8 (9 - 1)
}
}
public class SubstringSearch {
public static boolean isSubstring(String str, String sub) {
return isSubstringHelper(str, sub, 0);
}
private static boolean isSubstringHelper(String str, String sub, int index) {
if (sub.length() == 0) {
return true;
}
if (str.length() - index < sub.length()) {
return false;
}
if (str.charAt(index) == sub.charAt(0)) {
if (isSubstringHelper(str.substring(index + 1), sub.substring(1), 0)) {
return true;
}
}
return isSubstringHelper(str, sub, index + 1);
}
public static void main(String[] args) {
System.out.println(isSubstring("water", "ate")); // Output: true
System.out.println(isSubstring("water", "war")); // Output: false
}
}
@wintry socket
no worries
outer gust
I come from Spain and I have a bit of trouble understanding you. I know some English but I have trouble listening. I could ask you about a code that I don't know how to do. It's for a first year physics assignment at university xd
rustic pendant
hello
hows it going?
I'm just reading
I'm learning Japanese as well so I've been reading a few books in Japanese
I use to code when I was younger, but i haven't in like 5-6yrs
i didn't realy work with java
when i did code I used C#. Javascript, HTML, CSS, SQL and some python. I forgot a lot of it since i dont use it much if at all anymore
i dont have perms to unmute at the moment
doing good
i'm just reading a book in full japanese
i've been learning it for amost 1.5yrs
I'm taking the JLPT N3 exam this december on the 1st
thanks
i have to travel 2hrs for it
eventually move to japan once I pass N2, n3 is just to guage where I'm at and what to work on most, and what to work towards going into the N2 stuff
not necessarily, they just show me my score and thats what i'm gonna do with the information
yeah exactly
i'm visiting in September 2025. i leave aug 30th, get there aug 31st, and come home september 15th
i'm seeing Hiroshima, Kyoto, Osaka, Tokyo, and Takayama
Then I'm going back in spring 2026 to see Fukuoka, Kanazawa, Nagasaki, Nagoya, and Tokyo
First trip I'm going with 2 childhood friends and 2nd trip i'm going with a work friend
I've wanted to go since i was a kid and thats what inspired the first trip. The second trip was me being invited by my work friend to go
they let me pick where we go my 2nd time(which is their first time) as long as we visit our mutual friend who lives in Tokyo and Akihabara, and see cherry blossoms. So I prioritized places i'm not seeing my first trip
i'm from the USA and my local city in the USA is sister cities with Kanazawa japan
enjoy that
yeah I started reading this Japanese book called "Kafka on the Shore"
its good so far
whats everyone been upto today?
i only need to send a few more messages and then I can speak. yeah
i haven't done programming in a number of years, but i used to
i switched careers mid college
I found this server after my one friend used the emotes in another server and they seemed cool. all the lemons
My freshman year I learned SQL, Python, and some binary
then my second year i learned some Javascript, HTML, and CSS
I haven't coded since like summer 2019
i later switched to business
oh nice
one of my japanese learniong friends interviewed last month for the IT department in the Japanese lang branch of Amazon
they had to answer the Technical questions and the non technical questions all in Japanese
turbid parcel
hello
rustic pendant
hello
turbid parcel
i want apply my new found skill of python what are some good projects that i cacn do
turbid parcel
hows it going
good
rustic pendant
My friend is decent at Japanese
wind raptor
!projects
wise cargoBOT
rustic pendant
oh
wind raptor
@turbid parcel check out that link
rustic pendant
I also just went to NYC earlier this week on a trip with a friend for 3 days
i went to Tons of places. we went to time sqaure did a lot of Shopping. i got 1 shirt, a figure, and 8 books from the shopping. Then Monday we saw babymetal where I got my 2nd shirt
the books are in full Japanese of course
Babymetal is a Japanese metal band
Its 3 girls who sing in J-pop and J-Rock styles while dancing. They have metal musicians do the instruments behind them
wind raptor
!stream 317279909112446976
wise cargoBOT
✅ @somber heath can now stream until <t:1732324502:f>.
turbid parcel
do any know how i can use my flash drive to boot up arch linux
somber heath
do any know how i can use my flash drive to boot up arch linux
As a liveboot, booting from the flash drive, or installing arch to the flash drive and booting from it?
wind raptor
@hybrid zenith Please don't troll VC with random sounds.
turbid parcel
booting from the flash drive
somber heath
booting from the flash drive
Via liveboot or through having installed to it?
turbid parcel
or should i duel boot
hybrid zenith
<@270295291524022272> Please don't troll VC with random sounds.
I had a geniune question but seemed like you guys were just goofin around so I left
somber heath
A liveboot typically involves copying the iso in a kind of direct way to the drive or using unetbootin to use an existing filesystem to boot from.
An install is, you create a linux filesystem to the drive, install it as you would to a hard drive and boot from that.
somber heath
I had a geniune question but seemed like you guys were just goofin around so I l...
There are polite ways you can interject into a conversation.
What is the question?
@turbid parcel "Booting from a flash drive" isn't specific enough.
So, liveboot from a flash drive, or install to a flash drive?
@shell stratus 👋
shell stratus
hello
shell stratus
There are polite ways you can interject into a conversation.
hello how are you
nice to meet you
all
Trying to learn this Python stuff and I'm ripping my hair out
I'd love to be able to talk to you invoice because I'd make my life a lot easier and I could show you but basically I have been working on pipe for now for the past three months and I'm trying to develop a piece of software that allows the software to read resources files toward identify bad or malicious code I have worked on the project for quite a while now I've completed a beta version that works perfectly but I was trying to update the gooey because it looked like Windows 95 and ever since I've tried I've just continuously hitting brick walls and it's not working
old and new
I am still very new to Python I did try to remake the gooey but I'm at a point now where I don't know where I've tried to add more files and replace files I've made the code look worse or not work properly
shell stratus
So I'm trying to get verified but it says I haven't typed more than 50 messages is there a way I can see how many messages I have typed so I know how far I am away
can i send you wer i fink i am stuk ?
somber heath
You can search yourself or you can go into #bot-commands and type !user.
somber heath
!code
wise cargoBOT
last wigeon
lua.org 5.1 implementation trivia: what is the output of this code?
local u = {}
u[32] = 1
for i = 1, 32 do table.insert(u, 1) end -- for i in range(1, 33)
print(#u)
(# is the length operator)
wind raptor
32 should be the result
shell stratus
69 lol
last wigeon
47
shell stratus
{
[1] = 1, [2] = 1, ..., [32] = 1, [33] = 1, ..., [47] = 1
}
last wigeon
/*
** Try to find a boundary in table `t'. A `boundary' is an integer index
** such that t[i] is non-nil and t[i+1] is nil (and 0 if t[1] is nil).
*/
u[#u + 1] = 1
shell stratus
got form chat google if at help
Key Details:
u[32] = 1
This assigns the value 1 to the table with key 32. However, it does not count toward the "length" of the array because # only considers contiguous integer keys starting from 1.
table.insert(u, 1)
The table.insert function appends elements to the end of the array portion of the table. The array part grows sequentially, starting at 1, even though u[32] is already set.
After 32 iterations of the for loop, the array part now contains indices 1 to 32 (added by table.insert), and the explicit key 32 from u[32] = 1 remains as well.
State of u After the Loop:
Keys 1 to 32: These are created by table.insert.
Key 33 to 47: These are appended due to table.insert continuing to grow the array part of the table past the explicitly set u[32].
Key 32 (explicit assignment): This exists independently of the array-like part.
#u Behavior:
The # operator checks the length of the contiguous sequence of integer keys starting from 1.
It includes the keys added by table.insert, which extends the sequence to 47 (the original 32 from the loop, plus 15 additional insertions after u[32] = 1).
last wigeon
/*
** Try to find a boundary in table `t'. A `boundary' is an integer index
** such that t[i] is non-nil and t[i+1] is nil (and 0 if t[1] is nil).
*/
int luaH_getn (Table *t) {
unsigned int j = t->sizearray;
if (j > 0 && ttisnil(&t->array[j - 1])) {
/* there is a boundary in the array part: (binary) search for it */
unsigned int i = 0;
while (j - i > 1) {
unsigned int m = (i+j)/2;
if (ttisnil(&t->array[m - 1])) j = m;
else i = m;
}
return i;
}
/* else must find a boundary in hash part */
else if (t->node == dummynode) /* hash part is empty? */
return j; /* that is easy... */
else return unbound_search(t, j);
}
[1, 4, 4, 4, 3, nil, nil, nil] on the C side
{1, 4, 4, 4, 3}
soft axle
When you guys are done, if you guys can/want, I'm starting to learn numpy, pandas, matplotlib/seaborn and kinda have general questions about syntax, package stuff, and IDEs
shell stratus
at seem fun
last wigeon
wind raptor
!stream 928000975933952031
wise cargoBOT
✅ @shell stratus can now stream until <t:1732327978:f>.
jolly terrace
wind raptor
shell stratus
brisk bridge
hi guys
wintry socket
what yall watching here'
somber heath
!e py chance = 100 for _ in range(11): chance /= 2 print(chance)
wise cargoBOT
!e ```py
chance = 100
for _ in range(11):
chance /= 2
print(chance)```
:white_check_mark: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 0.
0.048828125
indigo raven
hello bro
cosmic chasm
indigo raven
bro My voice permission is off , That's the reason i don't talk. can you help me ?
cosmic chasm
bro My voice permission is off , That's the reason i don't talk. can you help me...
you just need to get into the voice permission channel and see if you have completed all 3 goals and then after you just click the button in there and then its off
indigo raven
Voice Gate failed
You are not currently eligible to use voice inside Python Discord for the following reasons:
You have been on the server for less than 3 days.
You have sent less than 50 messages.
/////
Bro this the error 😦
indigo raven
oooo . yea . Thanks 🙂
indigo raven
i have to send more than 50 messages per day or whole complete messages
You have been on the server for less than 3 days.
I'm tried to cover 50 messages 😁
wise cargoBOT
:incoming_envelope: :ok_hand: applied timeout to @indigo raven until <t:1732367469:f> (10 minutes) (reason: duplicates spam - sent 4 duplicate messages).
The <@&831776746206265384> have been alerted for review.
cosmic chasm
indigo raven
This is so fu** 😂😂
timid marten
This is so fu** 😂😂
We told you so lmao
indigo raven
yea 😆
obsidian dragon
This is not google https://www.perplexity.ai
It is a search engine
obsidian dragon
What type of search engine ?
no idea
cosmic chasm
What type of search engine ?
claud
indigo raven
cosmic chasm
<:ducky_beer:999676458064687104>
yep, thats me
cosmic chasm
indigo raven
yep, thats me
you need more bites to rap rap :: 😉
cosmic chasm
i can rap
cosmic chasm
i can rap
i am the real duckys
(yeah the real duckys)
will the real duckys Please Stand UP!
"me standing up"
I repeat... will the real duckys please stand UP!
timid marten
indigo raven
i am the real duckys
(yeah the real duckys)
will the real duckys Please Stand UP...
👍😂
indigo raven
indigo raven
i am the real duckys
(yeah the real duckys)
will the real duckys Please Stand UP...
yes 😉
wind pewter
how can i use async event listeners in flask_socketio
marble mantle
as in async def?
marble mantle
as in `async def`?
@wind pewter
wind pewter
yes
marble mantle
Flask is inherently non-async
wind pewter
so there's no way?
marble mantle
you can asyncio.run whatever you're trying to call
also you can switch to an ASGI framework like Quart
wind pewter
instead of flask, can i use fastapi as well?
marble mantle
yes, that's another option
since it's ASGI
python-socketio (not flask_socketio) has async support
https://python-socketio.readthedocs.io/en/latest/server.html#asyncio-modes
indigo raven
I found a problem in my code . Can you guys solve this problem ?
marble mantle
I found a problem in my code . Can you guys solve this problem ?
() => {setCount: (count + 1);}
this is equivalent to () => {count + 1;}
it should not have : in there
indigo raven
Bro it not working:(
Bro look at this youtuber code
Bro i use same | But this is not work for me 😦
indigo raven
`() => {setCount: (count + 1);}`
OOOOOO no problem . Now this is working 🙂 . Thanks a lot . 🙂
Hello !
Bro's :: (^///^)
Not complex : Easy :: 🙂
Now i'm enjoying this song .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMKlS2QtNQo&list=RD1PEzmfmRelA&index=13
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blcSLo3yecs
////////
I ❤️This one also 🙂
indigo raven
Good night < coding !
lime fractal
Bro i hate monitor me go fullscreen monitor say its only 60 hz monitor and when i go out fullscreen the monitor is 144 again
It has options menu
The monitor says it
obsidian dragon
short owl
2 bugs in a rug , snug
obsidian dragon
short owl
kittys just happy to be there
exotic adder
@vocal basin Why fast api instead of all this.
cosmic chasm
, .
wind raptor
<@98195144192331776> <@317279909112446976> <@373121697957543946>
Looks like it expires in ~4 days
quartz beacon
<@98195144192331776> <@317279909112446976> <@373121697957543946>
did you need to ping all these people?
somber heath
<@98195144192331776> <@317279909112446976> <@373121697957543946>
I know I'm extremely handsome, but I'm not a moderator, just so you know. 😁
somber heath
unmute me saar
!voice
wise cargoBOT
vocal basin
writing some Go again
and other Forgejo Actions related stuff
https://code.forgejo.org/forgejo/runner/issues/353
I've only now noticed that containerd has nerd in its name
everything docker is mostly go
Forgejo is Go too
with HTMX for front-end
seemingly there's actually very little use of it
I'm trying to figure out where HTMX is used on the page, and it's not that many places
the unformatted go template output is quite horrifying
💥
vocal basin
(token on screenshot has been invalidated, so do not worry about that)
template output isn't passed through any formatting
because why would it
(it's generated per request)
or remove all indentation
the more I use Gitea/Forgejo, the more I appreciate the header part of the UI
an actual useful header for once
why doesn't GitHub have a milestones page
gitlab for comparison
wind raptor
wind raptor
!code
wise cargoBOT
wind raptor
!paste
wise cargoBOT
solar jewel
wind raptor
!stream 912396984231546910
wise cargoBOT
✅ @wicked fox can now stream until <t:1732422700:f>.
wind raptor
!voice
wise cargoBOT
tawdry jungle
Me need
50 messages
And I don’t have
Oh okay 👍
But can I text here and you will like respond but it will count to 50 messages ?
deep wave
i don't know dude
tawdry jungle
I’m sitting straight 10 hours learning c++
deep wave
that's cool. you can upload it to github gists. might be a nice way to see your progress
whole bear
@somber heath hows it goin mate
somber heath
<@317279909112446976> hows it goin mate
whole bear
fellow aussie
tawdry jungle
that's cool. you can upload it to github gists. might be a nice way to see your ...
When it comes to exercises I making them by chat gee pee tee but they are to easy and when I ask for little bit challenging it makes me exercises that’s include something I haven’t learned something that’s annoys me
Same with websites with exercises includes something I didn’t learned something
And the videos doesn’t include exercises that would be great if they did
How can I check how many messages I sent?
somber heath
#bot-commands
tawdry jungle
#bot-commands
somber heath
!user
tawdry jungle
Thanks I appreciate
exotic adder
did you need to ping all these people?
nope.
gentle flint
did you need to ping all these people?
do they ever
yet they always do
indigo raven
indigo raven
Hello! Where are you guy's are going ??
somber heath
@woven pumice 👋
woven pumice
hyy
i dont have permission to chat or turn mic on
i need help can you ?
@somber heath
somber heath
!voice
wise cargoBOT
woven pumice
with pymem
yes but its take too much time to execute
i want to reduce it
approx 74 sec
the same thing can be done in 3 sec in c#
i m searching a mem reg and replaceing it
def pattern_scan_all_(handle, pattern, *, return_multiple=False):
next_region = 0
found = []
while next_region < 0x7FFFFFFF0000:
next_region, page_found = pymem.pattern.scan_pattern_page(
handle,
next_region,
pattern,
return_multiple=return_multiple
)
if not return_multiple and page_found:
return page_found
if page_found:
found += page_found
if not return_multiple:
return None
return found
somber heath
!code
wise cargoBOT
woven pumice
i was lost sorry
!code
def ChangeMemory(search, replace):
try:
pm = "HD-Player.exe"
scan_and_replace(pm, search, replace)
return True , None
except Exception as e:
print(e)
return False , e
` not '
woven pumice
@terse rose
somber heath
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