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#voice-chat-text-0
dusty jolt
lavish tundra
hello
dusty jolt
ok
upper basin
I am your mother, you listen to me.
lavish tundra
Guys, I'm a self taught programmer and I'm struggling with understanding classes, abstracting and implementing them in my projects. Untill now for my projects I'm relying on just functions and basic modules. Do you guys have any tips or recommendations to help me improve this asspect?
upper basin
Guys, I'm a self taught programmer and I'm struggling with understanding classes...
Do you understand OOP?
stark river
classes are a way to encapsulate data + methods
upper basin
Basically, let's say you want to represent some entity in your code, i.e.,
class Person:
def __init__(self,
name: str,
age: int) -> None:
self.name = name
self.age = age
def change_name(self,
new_name: str) -> None:
self.name = new_name
def double_age(self) -> None:
self.age *= 2
So, here I have represented a Person with a set of attributes (name and age) and methods (functions that are defined for the object) to manipulate the attributes of the object.
Basically, whenever you want to represent some entity that cannot be represented with basic primitives (i.e., numbers, strings, containers), then you can use a class to define it.
Abstractly speaking, whenever you want to represent some entity/object in OOP, you can use a class. You take in some parameters, you define the attributes of the object (only characteristics you care about/are relevant to your code), and you define methods to be applied to the object.
dusty jolt
hello @grim perch
grim perch
yo
upper basin
I didn't understand a single word of that. What do you mean by intercept?
lavish tundra
okay so it's like a template
upper basin
okay so it's like a template
Exactly.
lavish tundra
The problem I'm having is how can I think in terms of classes. I mean thniking of fuction (input -> output) is simple but classes seems bit difficult.
yeah the constructor method
slender grove
This is some tgype of training ??:)
stark river
easiest example is the getter setter methods.. get name.. set name
somber heath
!e ```py
class MyClass:
def my_method(self):
print('Hi.')
instance = MyClass()
instance.my_method()```
wise cargoBOT
!e ```py
class MyClass:
def my_method(self):
print('Hi.')
instance ...
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Hi.
yeah the instance object thing is passed with '.' notation (am i right)?
stark river
an object instantiated from a class will have public methods available as defined in the class
somber heath
!e ```py
class MyClass:
def my_method(self):
print(self)
instance = MyClass()
print(instance)
instance.my_method()```
wise cargoBOT
!e ```py
class MyClass:
def my_method(self):
print(self)
instance =...
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001 | <__main__.MyClass object at 0x7fbca72d3710>
002 | <__main__.MyClass object at 0x7fbca72d3710>
!e py a = [] b = [] c = a print(a == b) print(a is b) print(a is c)
wise cargoBOT
!e ```py
a = []
b = []
c = a
print(a == b)
print(a is b)
print(a is c)```
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001 | True
002 | False
003 | True
this is pass by reference and pass by value
okay value of a and b is same (empty) but located in different memory
where as c is pointing to 'a'
vocal basin
this is pass by reference and pass by value
python doesn't have such a notion
lavish tundra
python doesn't have such a notion
ohh okay
vocal basin
everything is passed by reference in the case of python
lavish tundra
Thanks for clearing the doubt
vocal basin
I think C#/Java and some others may make exceptions have special cases (I'm bad with English)
@midnight agate does Java have pass-by-value structs?
as in copy-on-pass
dusty jolt
!e
wise cargoBOT
somber heath
!e ```py
class MyClass:
def set(self, value):
self.data = value
def get(self):
return self.data
instance = MyClass()
instance.set(123)
print(instance.get())```
wise cargoBOT
!e ```py
class MyClass:
def set(self, value):
self.data = value
...
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123
!e ```py
code here
```
vocal basin
<@313797258200219648> does Java have pass-by-value structs?
as far as I see, Java doesn't, and requires explicitly cloning
somber heath
!e ```py
class MyClass:
def init(self):
print('Hello.')
instance = MyClass()```
wise cargoBOT
!e ```py
class MyClass:
def __init__(self):
print('Hello.')
instanc...
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Hello.
- yes,
PyObject * idstrandintare some of exemplary cases of the notion of pass-by-value in Python being incorrect
lavish tundra
ohh so the constructor method is called by itself upon the instantiation of the class object
somber heath
!e ```py
class MyClass:
def init(self, value):
print(value)
instance = MyClass('Hello.')```
wise cargoBOT
!e ```py
class MyClass:
def __init__(self, value):
print(value)
ins...
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Hello.
not always
first and foremost, speaking about shared ownership of bigints
copying a bigint would be expensive if it wasn't just an rc bump
dusty jolt
ok
vocal basin
copying a bigint would be expensive if it wasn't just an rc bump
same for str
lavish tundra
but I know global in scopes
vocal basin
if you want to see what passing strings by value looks like, look at C++
lavish tundra
okay yeah inside a function its local scope
so we can have same variable names inside and outside the function
vocal basin
nonlocal is useful for stateful decorators
lavish tundra
Yeah thanks but I still have one thing, so tell me how to think of problems in terms of classes?
ohh okay
can you please give an example about the persistance thing that you mention.
vocal basin
classes make sense even if there's no corresponding object inherently existing in the system you're modelling;
those would be introduced to simplify the the program, mostly (bundle related behaviour and data into a single thing)
somber heath
!e ```py
class MyClass:
def add(self, _):
return 123
instance = MyClass()
print(instance + 'Hi!')```
wise cargoBOT
!e ```py
class MyClass:
def __add__(self, _):
return 123
instance =...
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123
got it the add symbol is a special method and can be modified depending of data type, here like we can add 2 strings which simply concatenates them
vocal basin
classes make sense even if there's no corresponding object inherently existing i...
some patterns hinting at needing a class:
global- function has 3 or more arguments which it directly passes to other functions it calls (not saying "2 or more" because that's not worth the refactor that often)
- any resource management (see context managers)
(I will add more if I remember more)
dusty jolt
it is about variables
when i write this
input ("Enter first number ") ;x
input ("Enter second number ") ;y
z = y+x
print (z)
lavish tundra
Thanks @somber heath for the kind explaination
dusty jolt
it gives me this nter first number 3
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "c:\Users\Youss\Downloads\Turtle\Untitled-1.py", line 1, in <module>
input ("Enter first number ") ;x
^
NameError: name 'x' is not defined
vocal basin
where did you get ;x syntax from?
dusty jolt
ok
ok
so
x = input ("Enter first number ")
y = input ("Enter second number ")
z = y+x
print (z)
somber heath
!e py a = '1' b = '2' print(a + b)
wise cargoBOT
!e ```py
a = '1'
b = '2'
print(a + b)```
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12
yes
somber heath
!e py a = '1' # a = input('Number one: ') b = '2' # b = input('Number two: ') a = int(a) b = int(b) print(a + b)
wise cargoBOT
!e ```py
a = '1' # a = input('Number one: ')
b = '2' # b = input('Number two: ...
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3
but what if i everytime want a custom number
vocal basin
!e
_next_line = iter("""\
1
2
""".splitlines()).__next__
input = lambda *args: (print(*args, end=""), (line := _next_line()), print(line))[1].rstrip()
x = int(input("Enter first number: "))
y = int(input("Enter second number: "))
z = y+x
print(z)
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001 | Enter first number: 1
002 | Enter second number: 2
003 | 3
omg
why
yes
it works now
!e x = input ("Enter first number ")
y = input ("Enter second number ")
x = int (x)
y = int(y)
z = (x + y)
print (z)
oops
somber heath
!e py int('blah')
wise cargoBOT
!e ```py
int('blah')```
:x: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 1.
001 | Traceback (most recent call last):
002 | File "/home/main.py", line 1, in <module>
003 | int('blah')
004 | ValueError: invalid literal for int() with base 10: 'blah'
somber heath
!e py try: int('blah') except ValueError: print('Caught.')
wise cargoBOT
!e ```py
try:
int('blah')
except ValueError:
print('Caught.')```
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Caught.
vale quarry
!e ```py
a = '1' # a = input('Number one: ')
b = '2' # b = input('Number two: ...
thanks ๐ I found this kind of problem lately, it's clear now
teal jackal
the point is what are you try to do ??
dusty jolt
it is like if:
hexed garnet
!e
Print("hellow world")
I am new in python
Where is the mistake
I have written it correctly
wise cargoBOT
!e
```py
Print("hellow world")
```
:x: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 1.
001 | Traceback (most recent call last):
002 | File "/home/main.py", line 1, in <module>
003 | Print("hellow world")
004 | ^^^^^
005 | NameError: name 'Print' is not defined. Did you mean: 'print'?
Did you mean: 'print'?
dusty jolt
ok
vocal basin
new error messages are quite helpful
dusty jolt
ok
wise loom
How the F*** is OpenAI Open when all their code is closed-source ?!? ..
vocal basin
the eternal question
wise loom
the eternal question
it's legitimate
somber heath
while True:
try:
value = int(input('Number: '))
except ValueError:
continue
break```why
hexed garnet
!e
while True:
try:
value = int(input('Number: '))
except ValueError:
continue
break```
vocal basin
How the F*** is OpenAI Open when all their code is closed-source ?!? ..
"open" for use
if not for region block, limits, etc.
wise loom
"open" for use
that would qualify as "free" or "freemium" but not "open"
dusty jolt
ok i understand. Thankyou
somber heath
while True:
try:
value = int(input('Number: '))
break
except ValueError:
pass```U can write thx ,......
dusty jolt
?
dusty jolt
```py
while True:
try:
value = int(input('Number: '))
break
...
suffering be like :
hexed garnet
Hey voided why u gave ur name voided
dusty jolt
Hey voided why u gave ur name voided
wdym
r u name-racist or what?
i am one of the people who hate loops
ofc
hexed garnet
r u name-racist or what?
I often ask question to them who have weired name
hexed garnet
i am one of the people who hate loops
Ahm why??
dusty jolt
I often ask question to them who have weired name
why is your name paulbatnick
yes but
not all the lopps r bad
i love some loops
somber heath
!e py while False: pass else: print(123)
wise cargoBOT
!e ```py
while False:
pass
else:
print(123)```
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123
ok
somber heath
!e py for letter in 'abc': print(letter)
wise cargoBOT
!e ```py
for letter in 'abc':
print(letter)```
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001 | a
002 | b
003 | c
letter = 'a'
print(letter)
letter = 'b'
print(letter)
letter = 'c'
print(letter)```ok
@somber heath i have to go for sometime
so you can continue with the others
bye
hexed garnet
!e
for x in range(10):
print()
for y in range(x):
print("*",end="")
Nom not expected
somber heath
!e py for x in range(10): print() for y in range(x): print("*",end="")
wise cargoBOT
!e ```py
for x in range(10):
print()
for y in range(x):
print("*...
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001 |
002 |
003 | *
004 | **
005 | ***
006 | ****
007 | *****
008 | ******
009 | *******
... (truncated - too many lines)
Full output: https://paste.pythondiscord.com/I2BNSMYXK7SPFZUQKAEHNTPA2Q
wise cargoBOT
!e ```py
print('abc' * 3)
print('+' * 2)```
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001 | abcabcabc
002 | ++
!e py for i in range(10, 15): print(i)
wise cargoBOT
!e ```py
for i in range(10, 15):
print(i)```
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001 | 10
002 | 11
003 | 12
004 | 13
005 | 14
slender sierra
@somber heath ๐ค
somber heath
@oak prawn ๐
hexed garnet
What's wrong with it?
Yeah I was expecting something else
somber heath
Yeah I was expecting something else
Centered?
somber heath
!e py print('abc' + 'def' + 'ghi')
wise cargoBOT
!e ```py
print('abc' + 'def' + 'ghi')```
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abcdefghi
!d str
wise cargoBOT
somber heath
See anything interesting in the link?
Have a play.
See: String methods.
!e py print('aBc'.upper())
wise cargoBOT
!e ```py
print('aBc'.upper())```
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ABC
cobalt oyster
I can't speak ๐ฅ
somber heath
hexed garnet
Dumb ne
somber heath
Dumb ne
Inexperience is not to be confused with a lack of intelligence. Mistakes are a component of learning, one where you find out "okay, that was wrong, too far in a direction". Learning what not to do and what it feels like when you're about to make that mistake is important, too.
@restive bough ๐
hexed garnet
Inexperience is not to be confused with a lack of intelligence. Mistakes are a c...
Thx but code was working in my compiler but not here๐
hexed garnet
Inexperience is not to be confused with a lack of intelligence. Mistakes are a c...
๐ซก
Whom @somber heath
I can talk in vc
somber heath
@whole bear ๐
whole bear
heyy I can't unmute yet
somber heath
whole bear
I have been on the server for less than 3 days and sent less than 50 messages, will be able to unmute in a couple of days
upbeat bobcat
Can I connect Pycharm and Github?
upbeat bobcat
not really
replying to me?
whole bear
replying to me?
no to OpalMist, I don't know the answer to your question
whole bear
lmao
I don't know bro, you tell me what kind of music you into? any specific genres/artists that you listen to a lot?
got any recs for me?
oh that's great
hexed garnet
..
whole bear
Orpheus was a musician in Greek mythology, found his story interesting so just put him up
whole bear
oh that's great
I do listen to classical music a lot
hexed garnet
I do listen to classical music a lot
I love India music
hexed garnet
Can I connect Pycharm and Github?
..
whole bear
I love India music
yeah that's good too
hexed garnet
yeah that's good too
U hear Indian music what can u understand that
upbeat bobcat
ok thanks
hexed garnet
Hmm which project u are working on
upbeat bobcat
you have mic?
hexed garnet
I am in mob
hexed garnet
No project now am learning pandas
Oo panda
upbeat bobcat
I am in mob
wdym?
upbeat bobcat
ok
upbeat bobcat
Let me go now
what are you doing?
whole bear
U hear Indian music what can u understand that
didn't understand your question
stark river
taking a nap
rugged root
scarlet halo
hemlock
i just turned on a fan
and i have window open
noodle's temp is saying 34 degrees (C)
well
summer arrived early ๐
like i have a thing under noodle's heat mat
that tells me the temperature
i have it so that when it goes over 35 degrees, it starts to beep
dude i hate this shit
whyyy
my code is not coding
oblique ridge
scarlet halo
ayo?
upbeat bobcat
@rugged root hi
upbeat bobcat
?
oblique ridge
code wrong
oblique ridge
my kettle works too, just doesn't boil my water :P
scarlet halo
:P
scarlet halo
my kettle works too, just doesn't boil my water :P
youre lucky, my kettle doesnt even boil carbon dioxide.
oblique ridge
well i hope not, i'm pretty sure that's normally a gas at room temp and pressure
scarlet halo
oblique ridge
ye
urban abyss
@rugged root ^ bad UI or good UI ?
somber heath
Hamlock but it's a strawberry.
@fallen mango ๐
@urban abyss There's no background noise, but your mic is open.
willow light
@rugged root This is my current project: rebuilding git in go so I can learn both.
Had to shut off copilot since I need to be able to fail in order to learn
scarlet halo
yay i fixed my code :)
rugged root
!stream 239917638656983040
wise cargoBOT
โ @willow light can now stream until <t:1716563100:f>.
upper basin
Greetings all
wise cargoBOT
rugged root
!d shutil.which
wise cargoBOT
rugged root
pygame has been around since 2.7 at least, I think
scarlet halo
when was 2.7 released
something doesnt add up.
24 years ago.
wait
that might be the old pygame
rugged root
!pypi geojson
wise cargoBOT
urban abyss
willow light
!pip siphon
wise cargoBOT
rugged root
Hell yes
exotic moss
it took me a second to remember how to change neofetch's output ๐ญ
u have to make a variable u can't just print it ๐
oh
i was doing print
it's prin or echo apparently but it wont follow color formats
whole bear
Saying whistle for WSL is easier than saying its letters one by one. It makes the conversation around it much more smoother.
rugged root
Hell yes
exotic moss
nah i use fastfetch
so neofetch is whatever
fastfetch actually gets the data that neofetch doesn't seem to get
urban abyss
sqlite
whole bear
HOWEVER! If you are teaching a student who only begins to understand these, its better to say the letter one by one until they developed their own phrase of choice of these acronyms. @rugged root
willow loom
hi
rugged root
How's it going
willow loom
it's goin
exotic moss
urban abyss
willow loom
let's circle back to that
urban abyss
let's pull in all the families to enable alignment on this epic
rugged root
@grim solar #career-advice
cunning cliff
hey can anyone help me with adb issue ?
slender sierra
@rugged root hi๐
vocal basin
I thought I've just heard a doorbell ringing
(it wasn't)
hallucinations
exploring various Rust crates again
https://crates.io/crates/triomphe
(I was making my own Arc earlier, and now found this accidentally)
frozen owl
yummy
vocal basin
programmers are also human video:
fav quote from there:
5 games
50 game engines
frozen owl
which part of the app did you write
confused
the browser!
frozen owl
fav quote from there:
5 games
50 game engines
yeah lmao
peak mirage
Yo xD
vocal basin
@rugged root atomic
peak mirage
Wssup
vocal basin
atomic(ally) reference-counted
frozen owl
idk if anyone is interested in watching me unfuck month-old code
peak mirage
Nothing special i am dev earning low any tips xD
rugged root
Oh like career advancement kinds of tips? #career-advice would be a better place to ask about that kind of stuff
vocal basin
bugs => add more assertions and tracing
for async, logging/tracing, because stopping the whole runtime isn't viable to inspect the state
upper basin
Rotterdam is really chewing me out. 520 ping regular? You cold Rotterdam, you real cold.
tidal salmon
!voicemute 1167153161958600715 "2 weeks" Spamming to get your message count up for the voice gate is not allowed.
wise cargoBOT
:incoming_envelope: :ok_hand: applied voice mute to @peak mirage until <t:1717779151:f> (14 days).
vocal basin
@frozen owl how do you notice that it drops?
what does it mean that it drops?
hangs? panics?
upper basin
hangs? panics?
Codes panic?
vocal basin
what channel are you using?
@frozen owl blocking on shared resource?
are you using any mutex at all?
or rwlock
are there jobs pending in the queue for threads to take?
as in is there anything for threads to do in parallel
if it's not scheduling more than one task, there can't be more than one task in parallel
is there a "pending jobs" counter somewhere?
upper basin
You can't parallelize two jobs if you don't have two jobs to begin with is what he means.
vocal basin
are you replacing selector?
when network is some
so you're waiting on only one of them at a time
wait on both
that might be a solution
upper basin
You queue both tasks, and then run them in parallel.
Not do it sequentially if you don't have to do it sequentially (meaning you don't NEED to run the first task before the second).
You should only wait one at a time (which I think AF means run one at a time?) if you absolutely have to run task 1 then task 2 then task 3.
vocal basin
how was that concurrency graph generated, again?
vocal basin
at runtime, this isn't calling python directly, right?
rugged root
Making progress little by little. Work has been keeping me nice and busy
vocal basin
how was that concurrency graph generated, again?
what do colours represent exactly?
upper basin
Making progress little by little. Work has been keeping me nice and busy
As long as it's getting steady progress it's good. Slow is steady, steady is fast.
frozen owl
Making progress little by little. Work has been keeping me nice and busy
same here
im having like month long exams lol
vocal basin
where is the next print?
right after you receive the new thing from the queue, change the colour again
because it's no longer waiting
to make the graph reflect what's actually happening
no
just to cut that thing earlier
to check if it's actually waiting
you can reset the colour, right? as in stop the event
no, in other threads you seem to have thin events
or the thing that's supposed to send stuff to them isn't sending
what are other await points in that function?
what are you receiving
so you
send
recv
send
recv
right?
you need
send
send
recv
recv
are you spawning multiple instances of send-recv task?
can you measure how many generators you have waiting for recv?
just increment/decrement a static and sample periodically
(using atomics)
just a counter
for debug
fetch_add
fetch_sub
load
all with either AcqRel or Relaxed ordering
AtomicUsize::new(0)
you don't need what it returns
fetch add 1 on start
fetch sub 1 on end
load in a separate thread/task
literally what it suggested there but with a global instead of Arc
load somewhere else
yes
loop { print(load()); sleep(); }
but with proper syntax
spawn it once per program run
it's just a temporary debugging tool
until you figure out how to implement the same thing properly via tracing
you can shove tracing data into opentelemetry or whatever
though I doubt that's simpler
the conjecture so far is that it blocks on queue receive?
can you test it more precisely?
vocal basin
because, as far as I saw from code, there's quite a lot of stuff after the receive that chart would not reflect
let now = Instant::now();
// recv, literally one line
eprintln!("{:?}", now.elapsed());
are outputs of this considerably larger than zero?
just to make sure it's not something else that's blocking
in worker threads
(I'm still not entirely sure where time values are actually coming from)
can you show the whole thing with [measure start, recv, measure end, print] again?
it must not be mut
brb
sage meteor
vocal basin
it must not be mut
redefine the variable on each iteration
frozen owl
no
vocal basin
I'll be at the PC in ~20 minutes
wise cargoBOT
vocal basin
redefine the variable on each iteration
it'll generate the exact same code in most cases
scarlet halo
noooo not the discord compact mode :(
why isnt Win+Q the default keybind to close an application
i love win+q
hemlock youre giving me opalmist flashbacks
he used to (might still) tell people to check that channel and its so funny
willow light
https://www.wbur.org/news/2024/05/23/mbta-charliecard-fare-collection-system oh cool, better six years late than never, right?
vocal basin
I'll be at the PC in ~20 minutes
exact
scarlet halo
my code broke again :)
gentle flint
short owl
ohhh thats good ...
rapid chasm
My new outfit
rugged root
Comfortable?
oblique ridge
software engineer is a rare profession in this server tbh
learning some webgl stuff
pretty fun, but the amount of boilerplate code you need is actually absurd
here's a fun little color mixing thingy i dude with my own oklab implementation in webgl
also 3d cube rotation go weeee
oblique ridge
here's a fun little color mixing thingy i dude with my own oklab implementation ...
same corner colors with rgb mix
you can see all the middle stuff is generally darked (especially the purples and grays)
whole bear
also 3d cube rotation go weeee
i'm not look like this
oblique ridge
you gotta rotate
whole bear
you gotta rotate
i did , not again.
vocal basin
which queue is it waiting on?
there's, like, multiple receivers
channels, yes
what happens if graph_disconnected && network.is_none()?
seems like it'd just block
if that ever happens
is it mostly blocking on net_receiver or tensor_receiver?
as in which queue it receives from when it's waiting for a long time
@frozen owl send waits if the channel is full
what is the capacity?
of tensor_receiver and of net_receiver
is utilisation ever more than the number of workers?
.len()
workers not generators
of which there's too, iirc
worker fetches jobs from the queue
what is the other event that is active while one of the two is waiting?
(trying to find it in the source)
packing? eval?
is the whole batch a single message?
or many messages?
as in items of the channel
can it be that one thread consumes them all while the other one doesn't get to receive anything?
once a thread starts processing instead of pulling messages, then print .len() of the channels
if it's 0, then that's what's happening
yes
when red crosses into purple on that graph, if I understand correctly
reduce batch size?
so it stops earlier
how does the number of generators depend on batch size?
exactly same?
generators aren't producing items fast enough
@frozen owl where are items coming from?
how many items does a single item cause to be produced?
not enough jobs are generated somehow
I'd say that's expected that it slows down at start and the end
it's tree search, right?
if it ends up in deep calculations, it's too linear to parallelise, I guess
@round stratus it's a worker thread for compute-heavy processing
maybe have dynamic batch size?
hmm
yeah, maybe it's just not parallelisable
is it stopping after a certain depth?
single thread always pull everything it can
otherwise your implementation of workers would be completely dysfunctional
so no red is correct
why not just have a single thread with the largest theoretically possible batch size?
frozen owl
vocal basin
why not just have a single thread with the largest theoretically possible batch ...
the this
if it doesn't fill up, it partially fills up
not like multiple threads will help that
I'd suggest parallelising based on specific GPU actions
copy while it computes or something similar
@round stratus idk about the graph when it shows parallel, but for the alternating portions it's pretty clear now what happens:
all the work to do fits into a single batch which the worker consumes in its entirety
thread 0 [--copy--][--compute---------][--copy--]
thread 1 [--wait--][--copy--][--wait--][--compute---------][--copy--]
"perfect time to ask if it's running in --release"
wouldn't be surprised if it just slowed down so much
that it doesn't show yet
(on this short of a timescale)
wise cargoBOT
core/training/train.py line 207
def check_size_compatibilities(self):```
round stratus
frozen owl
cool
round stratus
kind aurora
Hello
"When I wrote this code, only God and I knew how it worked. Now only God knows"
Goodbye!
vital sinew
FileNotFoundError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'C:\Users\e\OneDrive\Documents\python\Scripts\ERROR_592834.spec'
C:\Users\e\OneDrive\Documents\python\Scripts>
python pyinstaller.exe --onefile ERROR_592834.py
urban abyss
vital sinew
FileNotFoundError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'C:\Users\willm\OneDrive\Documents\python\Scripts\options.spec'
tight zealot
hi
somber heath
@tropic cobalt ๐
somber heath
@low minnow ๐
open mica
๐๐ป @stark river )
keen idol
hello are you experienced in dsa?
whole bear
hello are you experienced in dsa?
nope I quit video games thursday and took up coding ๐คฃ
I need moni to buy a dishwasher
lmao im following bro codes tutorial to get started then using the discords python resources ๐
guys i think im not too far into it ๐
yeah he has loads of 12h courses
@open mica how long have you been coding?
wait what school?
W3?
bro my tabs are looking chaotic
yeah i just made the acc so i had it
yeah fricking 3 days to speak in vc is cheeks
sure
im gonna get a note book and write this stuff down
nah just for at school
Im going into a class called STID2 which is science, technology and sustainable developpemnt
im 16
yeah summer is coming up
true xD
bro it looks like so much yap since i can bloody vc
kk projects and network gotchu
yeah when i played skyblock i became a decent dungeons player by vcing and watching screenshares so im gonna do the same with python
tf is family name bro ๐
this is some creative acc making
BRO THIS STUFF WONT LET ME SIGN IN WITH GOOGLE LEAVE ME ALONE
ok for some reason i cant make an acc
this is fire
austere hornet
tf is family name bro ๐
Your surname
whole bear
Your surname
oh ok im just slow
austere hornet
looks busy in here
austere hornet
unfortunately being on discord is like taking drugs according to control freak parents
and talking to strangers is bad because strangers might have bad intentions, also according to control freak parents
quartz beacon
unfortunately being on discord is like taking drugs according to control freak p...
oh :(
quartz beacon
and talking to strangers is bad because strangers might have bad intentions, als...
control freak parents are afraid you'll see they're wrong and maybe you'll try to escape the cycle of abuse
austere hornet
well duh
but the last time i was on vc 0 they uninstalled discord
...
meh who cares
quartz beacon
meh who cares
i mean
peak depot
quartz beacon
sorry to hear
austere hornet
airfry eggs?
somber heath
@solemn saddle ๐
austere hornet
blowing my nose -> air out of my right eye
peak depot
scarlet obsidian
whats goiong on
somber heath
@eager merlin ๐
eager merlin
Hello
eager merlin
<@850353103151955968> ๐
๐
somber heath
@fluid sentinel ๐
fluid sentinel
Hi
austere hornet
sad
oh
umm
btw
what should I do in this situation?
a) make fun of him with my friends in out private server, b) block and report, or c) play into their hands
ok
ig that's closest to b
eager merlin
omg
austere hornet
I'm still gonna make fun of him tho
with my friends
... in a private discord server?
sure
my biggest concern is they're a member of this server
meh
because idk
probably against some rule?
I'll take your advice
ohh wise... opal
7.5k AUD
And weekly too 
I guess it's better than confronting them tho
just ignore
lol
But still... spending 7.5k on someone weekly
even if you're on a dating app you'd probably have doubts
whole bear
somber heath
@civic notch ๐
civic notch
tough wolf
hi
summer hare
hi\
gilded sky
<@812590614784638996> ๐
Hi
gentle flint
unfortunately being on discord is like taking drugs according to control freak p...
my dad was the same in the past
very annoying
most of my youth interactions with my dad consisted of me circumventing his restrictions
peak mirage
What would happen? ZD
safe solstice
hasty shore
what sorcery is this !!!
some boring tape to "relif" pain
peak depot
doing after food running around atm ๐
short owl
I thought about getting a kitty , but sometimes I play loud music , heard kittys hate that @peak depot
they need hiding places all over ( box + towel ) to escape @peak depot
I have 2 stray cats , wander in yard to mouse , maybe once a week
peak depot
peak depot
short owl
was looking for PDF books on cat biology , lots for dogs
1 or 2 cats , BIG maybe
inu shiba
barky barky
Chows can be vicious
well were guard dogs
did you ever watch , Dr Phol , vet show @peak depot
mostly dogs , horses , if cats .. they are wild outside
I dont think there is a 3D model of cat for biology studies
amazing to see cat walking animations - get the gate proper
i dont know if AI would do it proper , hair , gate , bla bla
but who knows
im all for automation for drudgery , but art is something that takes such a long time to master
art = draw , music ...
listened to a podcast , troubledminds.org , lots about how AI taking over here / there
found this cheap , thought it was a cat -- its a dog
it is supposed to have tiny AI for voice but its likey a fudge
3 MCUs inside but no remote to activate it , so ... its a project
was clean , no cracks , no water damage - so no kid had it
real kitty - doggy better
do your kittys chase mice ? @peak depot
neighbor cat was outside - saw a mouse - had no idea what it was
shooty shooty bang bang ?
I find occasional turd in yard with fur in it - guess its a kitty hunter
I had a Bobcat sleeping in back yard for 3 hours - looking for wild bunnys
bit bigger , speckled coat - acts like cat but i stay away from it - i want it to return
bye
slender sierra
Hi everyone ๐
somber heath
@solid pagoda ๐
noble solstice
Hii @solid pagoda
somber heath
@tight zealot ๐
tight zealot
I'm good
solid pagoda
#===import(s)===#
import tkinter
import matplotlib
#===============# for copying
root=tkinter.Tk() # tkinter.
def update(data):
#===list=box=clear===#
my_list0.delete(0, END)
#===topping=to=list===#
for item in data:
my_list0.insert(END, item)
#=====================#
#===body/window===#
root.title('simulator')
root.geometry("500x300")
#=================#
#===Button===#
my_button0=tkinter.Button(root, text="search",font=("Helvetica", 15))
my_button0.pack(pady=20)
#===label===#
my_label0=tkinter.Label(root, text="please select simulation", font=("Helvetica", 15),fg="grey")
my_label0.pack(pady=20)
#===========#
#===entry=box===#
my_entry0=tkinter.Entry(root, font=("Helvetica", 20))
my_entry0.pack()
#===============#
#===list=box===#
my_list0= tkinter.Listbox(root, width=50)
my_list0.pack(pady=40)
#==============#
#===list=of=pizza=toppings===#
toppings=["pepperoni", "pepper", "mushrooms", "cheese", "onions","pineapple"]
#===toppings=to=list===#
update(toppings)
root.mainloop() ```!code
wise cargoBOT
noble solstice
Byy @somber heath Study time
solid pagoda
bad conection
truly im sorry
i got an error mesage
line 9, in update
my_list0.delete(0, END)
NameError: name 'END' is not defined
somber heath
!e py print(END)
wise cargoBOT
!e ```py
print(END)```
:x: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 1.
001 | Traceback (most recent call last):
002 | File "/home/main.py", line 1, in <module>
003 | print(END)
004 | ^^^
005 | NameError: name 'END' is not defined
!e py END = 123 print(END)
wise cargoBOT
!e ```py
END = 123
print(END)```
:white_check_mark: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 0.
123
It's perfectly fine. It's not your fault that your internet connection is made of poo.
Unless it is.
In which case get it together. 
solid pagoda
truly im sorry
solid pagoda
#===import(s)===#
import tkinter
import matplotlib
import sys
#===============# for copying
root=tkinter.Tk() # tkinter.
#===============#
#===quit===#
END=sys.exit()
#==========#
def update(data):
#===list=box=clear===#
my_list0.delete(0, END)
#===topping=to=list===#
for item in data:
my_list0.insert(END, item)
#=====================#
#===body/window===#
root.title('simulator')
root.geometry("500x300")
#=================#
#===Button===#
my_button0=tkinter.Button(root, text="search",font=("Helvetica", 15))
my_button0.pack(pady=20)
#===label===#
my_label0=tkinter.Label(root, text="please select simulation", font=("Helvetica", 15),fg="grey")
my_label0.pack(pady=20)
#===========#
#===entry=box===#
my_entry0=tkinter.Entry(root, font=("Helvetica", 20))
my_entry0.pack()
#===============#
#===list=box===#
#>>>>>> my_list0= tkinter.Listbox(root, width=50)
my_list0.pack(pady=40)
#==============#
#===list=of=pizza=toppings===#
toppings=["pepperoni", "pepper", "mushrooms", "cheese", "onions","pineapple"]
#===toppings=to=list===#
update(toppings)
root.mainloop()
@somber heath
somber heath
<@317279909112446976>
Because you're calling it.
Instead of letting tkinter call it.
Also, tkinter.?
solid pagoda
yes
somber heath
!e py import sys print(123) var = sys.exit() print('Hello, world.')
wise cargoBOT
!e ```py
import sys
print(123)
var = sys.exit()
print('Hello, world.')```
:white_check_mark: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 0.
123
what would need to be changed for it to become visible
somber heath
What you want to do is give tkinter a reference to sys.exit, not to call sys.exit, yourself.
Which you're doing by putting the parentheses after it.
solid pagoda
Which you're doing by putting the parentheses after it.
?
stable axle
sys.exit() exits because you're calling it when you put () after
somber heath
!e ```py
import sys
print(123)
var = sys.exit()
print('Hello, world.')```
See how the hello text is not printed?
solid pagoda
yes
somber heath
It's hitting the sys.exit, which gets called.
You're saying, what is the return of a sys.exit call? Find out and assign END to it. But it never gets one, because a call to sys.exit terminates Python.
solid pagoda
END=sys.exit ? no parenthesis
solid pagoda
got an error
line 3263, in insert
self.tk.call((self._w, 'insert', index) + elements)
_tkinter.TclError: bad listbox index "<built-in function exit>": must be active, anchor, end, @x,y, or a number
somber heath
Looks like that's not where a reference to the sys.exit function can go.
I don't see a reference to tkinter.Listbox in the documentation.
Curious.
solid pagoda
tkinter.Listbox
somber heath
I'm seeing some references to listboxes, but I can't locate an actual Listbox class.
upper basin
somber heath
The first argument of a tkinter.Listbox.insert call should be the index you wish to insert before.
You have provided a function.
solid pagoda
I don't know if it's with my specific python 3.23.3 I think
somber heath
You're saying, given a list of three things, insert a thing before the functionth element.
"Functionth element?" Python cries.
"That makes no sense! Give the user an exception. I can't work under these conditions."
tulip plover
do you know about the Minimax algorithm
upper basin
do you know about the Minimax algorithm
Yes, do you have a question?
tulip plover
so I'm making a tic-tac-toe game and I need to code an opponent
upper basin
so I'm making a tic-tac-toe game and I need to code an opponent
Ok.
solid pagoda
Ai or other player interface?
upper basin
It's only for AI.
If you want code, here's a good example.
https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/minimax-algorithm-in-game-theory-set-1-introduction/
If you want theory, there's a nice lecture on this by Professor. Patrick Winston on OCW.
solid pagoda
Image training?
upper basin
Image training?
Pardon?
solid pagoda
What I mean is doing on the computer and take small snapshots of each and every one of it could win if it's set to x and oh showing it that every part of the board can be used like trying trying to train it nothing to somewhere from a chess
upper basin
What I mean is doing on the computer and take small snapshots of each and every ...
No, this isn't ML. It's a search tree.
You're not training anything.
Tic Tac Toe is small so it can be used with Minimax, but games like chess are just too big so you would have to use heuristics, like ML.
somber heath
!ytdl
wise cargoBOT
karmic obsidian
@somber heath Hey hi Opal
@somber heath it dependss on mutable and immutable objects right?
pallid moon
@somber heath another thing I personally have is I often switch between languages, so I often have something like, trying to write for i in range() in C++ or var++ in python
i see i see
fresh fog
Guys, Brb.
somber heath
@steady sentinel ๐
steady sentinel
dire pebble
stable axle
random_power()(9823075092375098237)
from ursina import *
import traceback
import Game
from Overlays.Notification import Notification
def request_handler(func):
def wrapper(self):
try:
result = func(self)
self.on_success()
return result
except Exception:
self.on_fail()
print(traceback.format_exc())
APIRequest.counter += 1
return wrapper
class APIRequest:
counter = 1
@property
def name(self) -> str:
"""
name of the APIRequest
"""
raise NotImplementedError
def on_fail(self) -> None:
message = f"{self.name}Request failed"
print(message)
Game.notification_manager.add_notification(Notification(message, color.red))
def on_success(self) -> None:
message = f"{self.name}Request succeeded"
print(message)
Game.notification_manager.add_notification(Notification(message, color.green))
# using property class
class Celsius:
def __init__(self, temperature=0):
self.temperature = temperature
def to_fahrenheit(self):
return (self.temperature * 1.8) + 32
# getter
def get_temperature(self):
print("Getting value...")
return self._temperature
# setter
def set_temperature(self, value):
print("Setting value...")
if value < -273.15:
raise ValueError("Temperature below -273.15 is not possible")
self._temperature = value
# creating a property object
temperature = property(get_temperature, set_temperature)
human = Celsius(37)
print(human.temperature)
print(human.to_fahrenheit())
human.temperature = -300``` basically get + set in oneyes
night sparrow
instance.getProperty()
instance.setProperty()
instance.property = ...
instance.property
stable axle
def log_decorator(func):
def wrapper(*args, **kwargs):
print(f"Calling function '{func.__name__}' with arguments {args} and keyword arguments {kwargs}")
result = func(*args, **kwargs)
print(f"Function '{func.__name__}' returned {result}")
return result
return wrapper
@log_decorator
def add(a, b):
return a + b
@log_decorator
def greet(name):
return f"Hello, {name}!"
# Calling the decorated functions
print(add(3, 5))
print(greet("Alice"))```
> ChatGPTdef make_pretty(func):
# define the inner function
def inner():
# add some additional behavior to decorated function
print("I got decorated")
# call original function
func()
# return the inner function
return inner
# define ordinary function
def ordinary():
print("I am ordinary")
# decorate the ordinary function
decorated_func = make_pretty(ordinary)
# call the decorated function
decorated_func()
#output:
#I got decorated
#I am ordinary
to
def make_pretty(func):
def inner():
print("I got decorated")
func()
return inner
@make_pretty
def ordinary():
print("I am ordinary")
ordinary()
#output:
#I got decorated
#I am ordinary
Source <- I feel like they explain it pretty well here
upbeat bobcat
@upper basin Are you in machine learning?
upper basin
I did my Bachelors in AI/ML, and research QML.
upper basin
Well, I'd recommend you first start with the theory and then move to coding.
upper basin
You can try with scikit-learn, tensorflow, and pytorch.
upbeat bobcat
Well, I'd recommend you first start with the theory and then move to coding.
theory from books?
Can you suggest any? @upper basin
book
upper basin
I don't know any intro books, but you can try with Andrew Ng's course.
upbeat bobcat
how are you everone
All good wbu
peak depot
ur internet is bad ace?
upper basin
ur internet is bad ace?
It's damn Rotterdam.
peak depot
somber heath
@pulsar shale ๐
!e py import random choice = random.choice(['Get the peach.', 'Stay in bed.']) print(choice)
wise cargoBOT
!e ```py
import random
choice = random.choice(['Get the peach.', 'Stay in bed.']...
:white_check_mark: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 0.
Get the peach.
@pulsar shale @jolly slate ๐
jolly slate
@somber heath am good, and you?
somber heath
!e py import random choice = random.choice(['Bus.', 'Bike.']) print(choice)
wise cargoBOT
!e ```py
import random
choice = random.choice(['Bus.', 'Bike.'])
print(choice)``...
:white_check_mark: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 0.
Bike.
somber heath
Not all Doctor Who episodes are equal.
Some are very good, some are just...why?
I have had singing lessons.
spark spindle
upper basin
Daylight
gentle flint
@peak depot We've just muted you until you're done
somber heath
She is.
peak depot
it lasted less that 10sec...
upper basin
You have a beautiful voice.
gentle flint
alr unmuted
austere hornet
everyone here has a beautiful voice
upper basin
Well no, I can't sing to save my life.
peak depot
i sang like 7secs...
upper basin
And it was heavenly.
gentle flint
i sang like 7secs...
ik but it was right through someone talking
upper basin
Plome's just jealous because he wanted to sing for me.
gentle flint
hence the temporary mute
peak depot
thats why I sing byself only...
austere hornet
thats why I sing byself only...
I'm sure it was great
limpid nacelle
heyo
somber heath
@nova knoll @limpid nacelle ๐
limpid nacelle
unfortunate i cant talk
wise cargoBOT
limpid nacelle
tough
upper basin
Telling myself, "I won't go there"
Oh, but I know that I won't care
Tryna wash away all the blood I've spilled
This lust is a burden that we both share
Two sinners can't atone from a lone prayer
Souls tied, intertwined by our pride and guilt
(Ooh) there's darkness in the distance
From the way that I've been livin'
(Ooh) but I know I can't resist it
Oh, I love it and I hate it at the same time
You and I drink the poison from the same vine
Oh, I love it and I hate it at the same time
Hidin' all of our sins from the daylight
From the daylight, runnin' from the daylight
From the daylight, runnin' from the daylight
Oh, I love it and I hate it at the same time
Tellin' myself it's the last time
Can you spare any mercy that you might find
If I'm down on my knees again?
Deep down, way down, Lord, I try
Try to follow your light, but it's nighttime
Please don't leave me in the end
(Ooh) there's darkness in the distance
I'm begging for forgiveness
(Ooh) but I know I might resist it, oh
Oh, I love it and I hate it at the same time
You and I drink the poison from the same vine
Oh, I love it and I hate it at the same time
Hidin' all of our sins from the daylight
From the daylight, runnin' from the daylight
From the daylight, runnin' from the daylight
Oh, I love it and I hate it at the same time
Oh, I love it and I hate it at the same time
You and I drink the poison from the same vine
Oh, I love it and I hate it at the same time
Hidin' all of our sins from the daylight
From the daylight, runnin' from the daylight
From the daylight, runnin' from the daylight
Oh, I love it and I hate it at the same time
austere hornet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qal34e9v_pk&ab_channel=AniMelody%E2%80%93AnimeMu...
this one is a banger
suzume was rushed af tho
peak depot
it is but hard to sing
austere hornet
I think it would have done better if it wasn't a movie
Like the plot and all that is fine
just very fast
This is a gud japanese song too https://open.spotify.com/track/1JrxwbZ9u0VNwemdcJwZNi?si=60ee87431faf44bb
austere hornet
Ill be able to talk sometime
!voice
wise cargoBOT
austere hornet
Yes, just be active and wait a couple of days
somber heath
I'm off to watch some Call the Midwife.
upper basin
scarlet halo
learning rust finally ๐ฅ
modern yacht
@scarlet halo good luck
scarlet halo
thanks
gray mantle
i made a stack overflow kinda thing where yu can ask questions and answer questions and this is my first django project and i think its cool...๐ ๐ ๐
willow loom
hello normies
what are yall up to
wat game
haven't played the new one
play anything else?
WAT
bro brush yo teef
surviving
barely
any cereal killers
based
it's all downhill from here
be a good domesticated human
opal
anyone working on anything?
somber heath
be a good domesticated human
๐คฎ
vocal basin
anyone working on anything?
writing docs for some library written in Rust