that sound was criminal
#voice-chat-text-0
deep cloak
willow light
don't blame me for lenovo's shitty hardware
deep cloak
idc blame lenovo for no mercy
if your tierod breaks midway o the highay and you smash my car, im not going after the tierod manufacturer we goin thru your insurance
XD
willow light
wow no need to be a dick about it
deep cloak
there is every need
44 more reasons left
he def wanted someone to just do it
mindful dev almost helped
i could here it
hear*
willow light
cool so unlike zoom i cannot view the screen on the laptop while connected to audio over my phone
willow light
No way in hell
willow light
Pretty sure that's a TOS violation. Not happening.
I'll just accept the limitation for now and get an actual headset rather than relying on a thinkpad yoga's shitty mic.
willow light
It could be that I'm using the wrong audio driver, but waddev
willow light
We're in tech. Laziness is a virtue.
deep cloak
nah im doing situps white texting rn
willow light
The best solution is the simplest solution. I'll just grab my old headset from 20 years ago.
Given how old this laptop is.
willow light
Nah, if it were drivers then zoom wouldn't've worked as well as it did earlier today
deep cloak
"audio device not recognized" XD
willow light
Only thing recognized here is my lack of energy for dealing with anything even resembling regexes for the rest of today, and anything that even has a hint of involving grep will include those horrible crimes against intelligence.
lavish rover
willow light
would you accept something in bash, possibly involving xv?
whole bear
I use windows because the only thing I know how to do is algorithms
willow light
myself and 1699 others got laid off because money matters more than people
deep cloak
BIGBALLA
stuck furnace
👋
willow light
No all of my honey is reserved for my microwaved tea.
wind raptor
My honey comes in a bottle, not a pot
deep cloak
fake honey.
wind raptor
sometimes a jar
deep cloak
artificial sugars.
willow light
My honey is raw. It's a solid at room temperature.
deep cloak
danm, real.
forest zodiac
bloated you mean featurefull
willow light
I have two jars, one from spring and one from summer. Very different tastes.
wind raptor
do people refrigerate their honey?
deep cloak
only if its fake.
wind raptor
wtf
willow light
I doubt you get your honey from central Maine.
Honey has a theoretical shelf life of ERROR CANNOT DIVIDE BY ZERO
deep cloak
if its real deal steel.
willow light
There were jars of honey discovered in the ancient egyptian tombs. It was still good to eat after 5000 years.
deep cloak
i would eat.
willow light
I would eat but not before taking one hell of a claritin
deep cloak
they probally had that bomb shit
the plant bck then
polin
opal
i know you'r wqatchig this chat
stuck furnace
You working on a raytracer? 👀
deep cloak
tracer ray
stuck furnace
I would eat but not before taking one hell of a claritin
I used to love the taste of the liquid claritin when I was a child 😄
willow light
I used to love the taste of the liquid claritin when I was a child 😄
That was a problem for me.
During the winter in high school I used to get serious nose bleeds but it turned out it was because I was using benedryl as a sleep aid.
working on a small project: D3 in React:
const Circle = () => {
return (
<svg>
<circle
cx="150"
cy="77"
r="40"
/>
</svg>
)
}
Compare to how D3 is usually written:
const Circle = () => {
const ref = useRef()
useEffect(() => {
const svgElement = d3.select(ref.current)
svgElement.append("circle")
.attr("cx", 150)
.attr("cy", 70)
.attr("r", 50)
}, [])
return (
<svg
ref={ref}
/>
)
}
Simple is better than complex.
mystic river
!voice verify
wise cargoBOT
frosty star
deep cloak
anyone in here do python games? 2d, pygame ect..
chilly parcel
anyone in here do python games? 2d, pygame ect..
me
obsidian dragon
hi @dull sluice
obsidian dragon
I kept hearning gun shots
dull sluice
that a toy gun
obsidian dragon
if you say so
dull sluice
if u join voice i can show what i think that was
peak nacelle
@still herald I do to
peak nacelle
Coding is hard
deep cloak
quit
frozen owl
polite cat!!!!!!
rich bison
come!
frozen owl
no, this is alphazero
rich bison
send invite
frozen owl
df = pd.read_csv('file.csv')```where df is a dataframe i think
df.head()
@still herald say thank you lmao
i have helped you
:(
big sad
native scarab
physics simulator for fun 💀
karmic obsidian
any updates on xz?
rich bison
make a cooking simulator
karmic obsidian
cooking code
rich bison
code is cooking
woeful salmon
physics simulator for fun 💀
its what i do for fun
it is fun
finally being able to use all that stuff you learnt in school
lol
rich bison
<:pithink:652247559909277706> its what i do for fun
maybe show us any of ur project
woeful salmon
a physics sim project?
rich bison
sure
frozen owl
a physics sim project?
repo?
woeful salmon
i don't have much on github since physics sims i just do for fun
so i just make single scripts for each thing i make and they're all over my drive xD
here's one i could quickly find
rich bison
here's one i could quickly find
can u stream how we play this?
woeful salmon
although this one uses pymunk but i had one where i was just using verlet integration instead of using pymunk
woeful salmon
still herald
<@1127458312938598460> say thank you lmao
Thanks buddy
obsidian dragon
frozen owl
HAHAHAHAHAHA
woeful salmon
bro should work with nasa
ey man that takes completely different skills compared to physics sims and game dev
frozen owl
i wanted to make my own physics engine for robot simulations
i know about isaac sim
but still
woeful salmon
i wanted to make my own physics engine for robot simulations
i am working on a game engine rn in cpp 😄 i did the amazing thing of deleting my main.cpp file tho so
native scarab
man and i thought f = ma was cool :V
frozen owl
i am working on a game engine rn in cpp 😄 i did the amazing thing of deleting m...
have you had any backups lol
woeful salmon
now i have a bunch of classes that work with direct3d and opengl and no main file to put them together
i have backup but i don't honestly care cuz it was a prototype
i'm currently in process of copying over the things i can use from it in the main big game engine
native scarab
team msg < 50 gang
woeful salmon
the hard part tho is i need to now make a high level shading language 😦 cuz writing individual shaders for opengl, vulkan, etc is pain
^ this needed to be done like a week ago i procrastinated and got side tracked into other things
still herald
<@1127458312938598460> say thank you lmao
Thanks buddy
frozen owl
the hard part tho is i need to now make a high level shading language 😦 cuz wri...
is this for like an assignment?
woeful salmon
is this for like an assignment?
hobby project
woeful salmon
the process is pain but the result is massive satisfaction xD
frozen owl
i agree
woeful salmon
even the prototype just getting to know how modern versions of vulkan and opengl works felt nice and painful :3
still herald
Ya
woeful salmon
😮 robot?
frozen owl
😮 robot?
although this would be the next logical step
sim-to-real transfer proejcts
i need to first understand RL first
still herald
@frozen owl this guy was against jupyter notebook
No one listens to me
See ya guys
Thanks for helping @peak nacelle @frozen owl @woeful salmon
frozen owl
cya
still herald
You guys rock
frozen owl
have you finished your hw
still herald
have you finished your hw
Doing it now
still herald
What does that mean?
still herald
do show me how it went
Sure
still herald
try to find out then
You're so annoying
frozen owl
hehehehehe
still herald
dull sluice
use the same ``` on all ends
gray kraken
from customtkinter import *
from bs4 import BeautifulSoup
import requests
pageToScrape = requests.get("https://www.timeanddate.com/weather/canada")
soup = BeautifulSoup(pageToScrape.text, "html.parser")
webscraping = soup.findAll("td", attrs={"class": "rbi"})
def reload():
y = []
for i in soup.find_all("td", attrs={"class": "rbi"}):
y.append(i.text)
print(y)
Root = CTk()
Root.title("Canada")
Root.iconbitmap("canada.ico")
Root.geometry("300x350")
label = CTkLabel(master=Root, text="N/A", font=("Arail", 50), text_color="red")
label.place(relx=0.5, rely=0.3, anchor="center")
button = CTkButton(master=Root, text="reload", font=("Arail", 50), fg_color="#e63c3c", hover_color="#91242d", command=reload)
button.place(relx=0.5, rely=0.7, anchor="center")
Root.mainloop()
['6\xa0°C', '-1\xa0°C', '0\xa0°C', '4\xa0°C', '-11\xa0°C', '-5\xa0°C']
dull sluice
open challels in #1035199133436354600 and i can maybe help too but my mother sent me to learn so at most i can text
gray kraken
def reload():
y = []
for i in soup.find_all("td", attrs={"class": "rbi"}):
y.append(i.text)
print(i.text)
-4 °C
0 °C
-2 °C
-4 °C
0 °C
5 °C
2 °C
-6 °C
4 °C
-1 °C
0 °C
-4 °C
-1 °C
0 °C
2 °C
0 °C
0 °C
-7 °C
-20 °C
1 °C
1 °C
0 °C
1 °C
-12 °C
dull sluice
waht happens what do u expect and what error u get if u get any
dull sluice
i dont know tinker nor custom tinker but i can help with the butifle soup and requests also u can say i hear u just my mother can hear me if i talk
dull sluice
im expecting a list of degrees but i get '6\xa0°C'
thats for what degree?
gray kraken
celsius
dull sluice
i mean in the example what number of degree are u giving that gets printed like that
gray kraken
6 °C = '6\xa0°C'
dull sluice
/xa is a no breake space u should just replace it with a space or use utf-8 encoding
instead of asci
gray kraken
how do i do that
obsidian dragon
html_content = """
"""
just do str.replace("\xa"," ")
gray kraken
thx alot very muches
obsidian dragon
import os
# Specify the path as the parent directory (../)
directory_path = "../"
html_head = """
<!--build 1-->
<!DOCTYPE html>
<html lang="en">
<head>
<meta charset="UTF-8" />
<meta name="viewport" content="width=device-width, initial-scale=1" />
<link rel="icon" href="favicon.png" type="image/png" />
<link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="styles.css" />
<title>Media Mimic</title>
</head>
<body>
"""
html_foot = """
<script src="script.js"></script>
</body>
</html>
"""
html_banner = """
<img id="icon" src="favicon.png" />
<h1>Media Mimic</h1>
<p>Powered by a 16TB Hard Drive!</p>
"""
html_content = ""
def build_media_mimic():
# Check if the parent directory exists
if os.path.exists(directory_path) and os.path.isdir(directory_path):
# Get a list of directories in the parent directory excluding certain directories
directories = [d for d in os.listdir(directory_path) if os.path.isdir(os.path.join(directory_path, d)) and not d.startswith("_") and d not in ["$RECYCLE.BIN", "System Volume Information", "#media_mimic"]]
# Print the list of directories
for d in directories:
html_content += f"{d}<br>"
else:
print("The parent directory is not valid.")
return html_head + html_banner + html_content + html_foot
media_mimic_text = build_media_mimic()
#save media_mimic
media_mimic_file = open("index.html", "w")
media_mimic_file.write(media_mimic_text)
media_mimic_file.close()
Z:\#media_mimic>C:/Users/Developer/AppData/Local/Programs/Python/Python312/python.exe z:/#media_mimic/main.py
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "z:\#media_mimic\main.py", line 51, in <module>
media_mimic_text = build_media_mimic()
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
File "z:\#media_mimic\main.py", line 43, in build_media_mimic
html_content += f"{d}<br>"
^^^^^^^^^^^^
UnboundLocalError: cannot access local variable 'html_content' where it is not associated with a value
do global html_content at the start of build_media_mimic or pass it as an arg and make it accept it as an arg
obsidian dragon
it can read html_banner and head/foot
dull sluice
dosent make much sense to me either but that should solve it
difference seems to be that u define html_banner and the others by """text""" but use only "text" for html_content
there are some differences between the meaning and result of those just its rarely noticed
dull sluice
what error do u get?
obsidian dragon
@gray kraken
# Open the file in read mode
with open("build.txt", "r") as build_file:
# Read the content and convert it to an integer
build_text = int(build_file.read().strip())
# Increment the value by 1
build_text += 1
# Open the file again in write mode
with open("build.txt", "w") as build_file:
# Write the updated value (converted to string) to the file
build_file.write(str(build_text))
u can try something like
d=""
for i in string:
if i.digit():
d+=i
return int(d)
it removes all non num chars and ints the str
gray kraken
from customtkinter import *
from bs4 import BeautifulSoup
import requests
pageToScrape = requests.get("https://www.timeanddate.com/weather/canada")
soup = BeautifulSoup(pageToScrape.text, "html.parser")
webscraping = soup.findAll("td", attrs={"class": "rbi"})
def reload():
y = []
for i in soup.find_all("td", attrs={"class": "rbi"}):
y.append(i.text.replace("\xa0","").replace("°C", "").replace(" ", ""))
print(y)
Root = CTk()
Root.title("Canada")
Root.iconbitmap("canada.ico")
Root.geometry("300x350")
label = CTkLabel(master=Root, text="N/A", font=("Arail", 50), text_color="red")
label.place(relx=0.5, rely=0.3, anchor="center")
button = CTkButton(master=Root, text="reload", font=("Arail", 50), fg_color="#e63c3c", hover_color="#91242d", command=reload)
button.place(relx=0.5, rely=0.7, anchor="center")
Root.mainloop()
y.append(i.text.replace("\xa0","").replace("°C", "").replace(" ", "")) to y.append(int(i.text.replace("\xa0","").replace("°C", "").replace(" ", "")))
dull sluice
it may have invisible chars like tab space that non break space \ax from earlyer or something like that
that wont show up on print
gray kraken
'-11'
earnest grotto
Hey, can you help me with my Python interpeter?
I changed a name of project them everything stomped working
Pycharm best haha
earnest grotto
Just cannot wait until i hit 50 messages
dull sluice
Pycharm best haha
its too complex for my brain so i use VS
earnest grotto
its too complex for my brain so i use VS
XD it is not that hard
wait
there are to cases
- Cannot even add the interperte
- When I can add in right down corner I choose interpeter it just does not work
give me a sec i will check
yea
yeah but
the point is it does not work with venv
earnest grotto
it only works with the base system interpeter
dull sluice
maybe the its "- 11" not "-11"?
stop it in a debugger and look at the value there
gray kraken
python
earnest grotto
nice XD
gray kraken
y.append(int(i.text.replace("\xa0","").replace("°C", "").replace(" ", "")))
can u give an example on i so i can test it?
gray kraken
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "C:\Users\bjrnc\AppData\Local\Programs\Python\Python312\Lib\tkinter\__init__.py", line 1967, in __call__
return self.func(*args)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
File "C:\Users\bjrnc\AppData\Local\Programs\Python\Python312\Lib\site-packages\customtkinter\windows\widgets\ctk_button.py", line 554, in _clicked
self._command()
File "F:\Documents\tempeture_canada\main.py", line 16, in reload
y.append(int(i.text.replace("\xa0","").replace("°C", "").replace(" ", "")))
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
ValueError: invalid literal for int() with base 10: 'N/A'
oh u should check if u get that and return None or something
it prob appiers on the site too its that there is no data for that thing in the site
there is no return
i used it as thats what u want to add to the list y instead
u can map int on the list
gray kraken
y[0]
dull sluice
like u have a list l
def strip_and_int(n):
n2=""
for i in n:
if i.is_digit():
n2+=i
return int(n2)
list(map(l,strip_and_int))
this would still say "" is not valid base 10 int
bc that number that u had the problem with is just a placeholder when the site dosent have data for that entry
its basically the same as None
N/A means None just to some humans not python
or probably any programing language
than what was the str u got the error for?
dull sluice
```py
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "C:\Users\bjrnc\AppData\Local\Pr...
here python says "N/A" is the str thats invalid for an int
gray kraken
'5', '1', '2', '4', '2', '-10', '-11', '0', '0', '-26', '-11', '-6', '-1',
dull sluice
if u need the avrage just use a try so u try to do it and if its N/A u get an error and skip it
do
l=[(int(i.text.replace("\xa0","").replace("°C", "").replace(" ", ""))) for i in data if i!="N/A"]
avrage=sum(l)/len(l)
i dont think your getting what i mean its not your problem im just bad at explaining
earnest grotto
i dont think your getting what i mean its not your problem im just bad at explai...
XD can you write what is input and what is the output?
dull sluice
!rule 5
wise cargoBOT
dull sluice
aka no help for scraping
but thats the same as scraping
if u get and api and request.get the json that not scraping thats usenig the api as long as the api is public
gray kraken
there are 3 types of webscraping allowed, allowed with request, not allowed
whole bear
What is webscraping
earnest grotto
What is webscraping
good quesiton
gray kraken
its getting info from a website
rugged root
!stream 324850936759451649
wise cargoBOT
✅ @earnest grotto can now stream until <t:1712238763:f>.
dull sluice
What is webscraping
basicaly useing a website with code
whole bear
basicaly useing a website with code
Oh ok that makes sense
native scarab
give voice permission 👉 👈
dull sluice
give voice permission 👉 👈
whole bear
would it be a website that is no longer operating because you said using it with code just a assumption.
gray kraken
native scarab
so how many messages do i need to unlock voice perms
rugged root
!stream 324850936759451649 30M
wise cargoBOT
❌ @earnest grotto can already stream.
somber heath
Been around Linux, nudge nudge wink wink know what I mean, say no more!
rugged root
#bot-commands do !user
rugged root
!stream 324850936759451649 30M
wise cargoBOT
✅ @earnest grotto can now stream until <t:1712240687:f>.
native scarab
so not all web scrapping is unethical right?
ya i read terms before scrapping
the thing is i wanted to start free lancing in web scrapping and i dont want my work to be unethical
ya i hear you
dull sluice
if i find a not public api and use it is that scraping or something else?
so like api but not allowed?
native scarab
i dont know
but I guess you could call that breaching
if they dont want to give anyone acess to it
but I'm not sure
rugged root
Back in a bit, sorry
dire grail
It’s me the fedora guy
stuck furnace
Why would it be different with the other account?
rugged root
Because Linux is bullshit
(in some cases)
I'm still not in call, just had to throw that in there
Doing more phone troubleshooting with our MSP
whole bear
Doing more phone troubleshooting with our MSP
earnest grotto
Why would it be different with the other account?
coz linux trolls me today
rugged root
https://tenor.com/view/broken-phone-ron-swanson-parks-and-rec-angry-gif-5145523
I'm not to that point yet.
I'm sure some of my co-workers are, though
whole bear
I'm not to that point yet.
Lmao
earnest grotto
Could you share your screen through your webcam somehow? 🤔
like with phone camera?
rugged root
It doesn't help that I use the desktop/web app to answer my calls so I don't have the same issues
(I do have a weird different one, though)
But their phones and fixing that are my top priority
rapid chasm
Because Linux is bullshit
Really 🤔
rugged root
When it comes to Discord?
Oh yeah
Ohhhhhh yeah
Every OS sucks in their own special way
stuck furnace
Working now 👀
You're having an issue with python interpreters in PyCharm?
You're muted btw, if you're speaking 😄
earnest grotto
XDDDD
stuck furnace
Oh you're on two accounts right
rugged root
I'm assuming I just unmuted the right account
If not then... uhhhh
my b
Is that a yes I did?
stuck furnace
Is that a yes I did?
Yep
rugged root
Righteous
whole bear
@rugged root Well... Voice is prioritized in QOS. lol
stuck furnace
Right
The venv is called pulporo?
Can you re-create the virtual environment?
¯_(ツ)_/¯
Yeah
There might be another step you need to do
Delete it again.
So all your venvs are in a central location?
Don't re-add it yet.
So I'm just trying to understand your set up.
Normally the venv exists within the project directory.
Ok
Can I see the file tree in PyCharm?
I wouldn't edit the files in the .idea folder personally 😄
Oh ok I see sorry.
Can you go into the place where you select the interpreter?
Settings
Can you click "show all"?
You deleted the venv right?
Oh ok. Remove it from pycharm.
Oh
Erm, is it in a repository?
All else fails you could create a new pycharm project.
I generally wouldn't (add the .idea stuff to the repo)
🤔
Erm, restart pycharm for good luck first 😄
Go for it
Ah
Your other projects don't have this issue?
Alright then I would just create a new pycharm project.
Maybe the metadata got messed up or something 🤷♂️
Do you have uncomitted work?
I'm not sure what you mean sorry.
Erm, whichever
Can you invalidate your pycharm caches?
I'm not sorry 😄
I think if you exit settings
and click in the hamburger menu top left
It's there yeah
down a bit
warmer
warmer
warmer
Got it
Yeah why not
Wait sorry
brb sorry
Alright. Delete the venv, invalidate caches, create new venv 😄
Yeah, but you're selecting an existing venv?
Oh, when you created the pycharm project.
Probably something in your .bashrc
is what's causing that cargo message
urban abyss
hey guys how's it going
stuck furnace
hey guys how's it going
Hey 👋
rugged root
Good, 'bout you?
urban abyss
Going okayyyyyy ish
trying to debug ubuntu jammy python issues
that and dealing with a situation where if a pip install process goes on for long enough, it fails out in our VM with a NewConnectionError 🤷♀️
but if I shard them up enough, it works fine
rugged root
@earnest grotto https://www.jetbrains.com/lp/toolbox/
urban abyss
big fan of jetbrains IDEs
rugged root
that and dealing with a situation where if a pip install process goes on for lon...
Wait it's a connection timeout?
I'm confused
stuck furnace
It's like a hydra
rugged root
urban abyss
Wait it's a connection timeout?
Yep, but only for longer running pip installs somehow, may just be a VM connection problem from glcoud to artifactory
and pip very unhelpful tells you it has a conflict error rather than just a failed connection
rugged root
That tracks
You know I said to stay away from uv and rye until they get more stable but....
Maybe it's worth checking for testing
stuck furnace
🎉
It will be whichever python interpreter you selected when you created the venv?
It looked like you selected /usr/bin/python3
rugged root
@earnest grotto https://github.com/pyenv/pyenv This is what I'm referring to
stuck furnace
Although on windows you do have to make changes to the registry to make python interpreters discoverable (which is handled by the installer, if there is one).
rugged root
You do not
stuck furnace
(Which is why I wanted to make a PyPy installer)
rugged root
You use the py launcher on windows
stuck furnace
You use the `py` launcher on windows
Yeah py discovers python interpreters based on information in the registry
rugged root
Oh right
Right right right, ignore me
But like you said, it's handled by the installer, so it's barely an issue
stuck furnace
Yeah
Honestly I've noticed I'm spending less time configuring things on Windows 😄
¯_(ツ)_/¯
I think we've summoned Rabbit 👀
amber raptor
I’m not sticking around
amber raptor
Unless someone wants to do VC that isn’t Tech Support 101
stuck furnace
Yeah 😄
Debate about gun control...
Debate about <controversial topic>
(for the VC bingo card)
amber raptor
I enjoy triggering Bingo card
rugged root
You're practically a free square and I love you for it
wise loom
Podcast with Andres who found the xz backdoor:
https://risky.biz/RB743/
stuck furnace
Printers exhibit resistentialism
rugged root
!stream 324850936759451649 30M
wise cargoBOT
✅ @earnest grotto can now stream until <t:1712245118:f>.
rugged root
urban abyss
is there a good way to handle pyenv on CI without requiring build every time?
stuck furnace
These were the notes I had to make to keep track of my python environment back when I was using Ubuntu: https://paste.pythondiscord.com/VE5A
Mine? 👀
Thanks!
rugged root
Have to replace a printer cart
amber raptor
is there a good way to handle pyenv on CI without requiring build every time?
Accept your fate and just embrace containers, you will need to anyways
urban abyss
Accept your fate and just embrace containers, you will need to anyways
we do use CI containers, I just didn't want to have to go down the route of either storing all required python pyenv versions in an image or splitting images between python pyenv versions. 😆
stuck furnace
Er, bit drastic 😄
amber raptor
we do use CI containers, I just didn't want to have to go down the route of eith...
Install them during the build or don't use pyenv at all
.xkcd 1987
viscid lagoonBOT
stuck furnace
And this is before AMD ARM macs 😄
amber raptor
ARM you mean?
stuck furnace
pyenv uses shims I think?
stuck furnace
Erm, I think it's just for managing python interpreters (and associated command line executables)
Yeah
Oh and it's all written in Bash lol
noble solstice
stuck furnace
Essentially this
Python environment stuff
Yeah, I've seen guides where they just say not to use python because of the headaches of distribution
rugged root
I'm back to being Typelock
amber raptor
Yeah, I've seen guides where they just say not to use python because of the head...
I mean the reasons not to use it are "It's slow, it's distribution is nightmare and it's dynamically typed"
rugged root
Phones are my new printers for now
amber raptor
Containers fix distribution problem for Python
rugged root
@urban abyss You good?
I hear ya
When I crouch then stand back up it sounds like I'm walking on gravel
I misclicked
What're you up to, LX?
stuck furnace
Erm, nothing really
I had a bit of a nightmare earlier 😄
I decided to sell my old laptop because I need the money
Thought I'd give the keyboard a thorough clean before selling it
So I started removing key caps
rugged root
Risky on a laptop
stuck furnace
...and then snapped one in half
rugged root
Yep
stuck furnace
Yeah 😄
rugged root
They reaaaaaally aren't made to come off
stuck furnace
Yeah, so I have ordered a single key cap off ebay
Probably not arriving till next week 😑
I'm an idiot
stuck furnace
Erm, the down arrow
The arrow keys are like really tiny and delicate on this particular keyboard
Tbh, I'm not even sure it will sell for much as the battery needs replacing.
But it still works other than that ¯_(ツ)_/¯
rugged root
Eh, 10 quid is 10 quid
stuck furnace
And I'm selling it through CeX who give you like pennies on the dollar lol
rugged root
And it's one less thing to mess with
Although if you got 10 squid...
@peak depot Sup
Understandable
stuck furnace
Although if you got 10 squid...
How'd you find out about my aquarium project? 🥁
stuck furnace
And it's one less thing to mess with
Btw, it is pronounced "sex" (you were asking way back)
I heard it in a Spotify advert
rugged root
Wait what?
stuck furnace
You can really tell I'm broke 😔
rugged root
DJ sex?
rugged root
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh
stuck furnace
Computer exchange
rugged root
Right right right
willow light
Chief Sexecutive Officer?
stuck furnace
Yeah
rugged root
HA
willow light
I've used that name on steam before
willow light
joins vc WHO HAST AWAKENED ME FROM MY SLUMBER
earnest grotto
@rugged root & @stuck furnace thanks guys a lot for help I finally resolved it!
rugged root
Niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice
stuck furnace
<@98195144192331776> & <@476543547210858506> thanks guys a lot for help I final...
Nice!
Back in a bit
rugged root
Oh really? Damn, I didn't realize you were in that good of shape
exotic moss
such good of shape
stark river
Back in a bit
1 or 0?
exotic moss
i took the muscle relaxer the next day and it gave me dull muscle pain (im assuming it caused it)
so im not taking that anymore
faint raven
Ah
rugged root
faint raven
I was joking that I compile a 0 into a one 😹
rugged root
Nice
willow light
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shoofly_pie move over raspberry pi, we have shoofly pi
rugged root
@willow light Bass Pro?
Springfield has the first one
Yep
Ohio I liked living in
whole bear
hello
rugged root
Irritated by technology
willow light
irritated by technology would make a great band name
rugged root
Or a phone at this point
whole bear
technology good man why
rugged root
Our phone system is fucking up and printers are always a pain in the ass
willow light
printers are only not a pain in the ass when they're someone else's problem
rugged root
@willow light Really Awful Malware?
willow light
<@239917638656983040> Really Awful Malware?
Real Artificial Manure
Genuine Imitation Camel hair brush. Real Fake Stuff
stark river
download more RAM.. the real Random Access Memory
whole bear
are u guys programmers ?
rugged root
Not professionally. I do IT
stark river
i'm just a cook
willow light
I am kinda a programmer. I steal only the best from StackOverflow.
whole bear
i do IT aswell i used to work in a store for 7 months as an IT
whole bear
we used to do rebolings and change hardware on laptops and pcs
rugged root
@willow light Wait, Myst was on floppy?
whole bear
also we used to fix many other stuff aswell
rugged root
Huh
I work for an accounting firm, so mines just the various software and printer and phone stuff
whole bear
i have a question do you guys like studing alot ?
rugged root
@willow light I think I have like... 3 copies of Neverwinter Nights
whole bear
studying
rugged root
I'm always reading and learning but I don't know if I'd call it studying per se
And I know I have at least 2 versions of Red Alert 2
Nice nice
whole bear
is it possible to get to used to study something like make your brain like it or you think thats dna ?
stark river
i 🫶 studying
rugged root
Good times
Same
I need to be hands on
And if I can't... I don't know
@upper basin He lives!
@blissful sand Sup
whole bear
listen forcing yourself to like it will it make you really like it ? will it become a habit you think ?
upper basin
<@664667836605661217> He lives!
Hey Hemlock, missed you.
rugged root
Forcing myself to do it
Liking doesn't necessarily come into it
But I like learning. Like I enjoy reading documentation and learning about various frameworks and programming languages.
But I don't consider it studying
To me, studying is learning for a specific task or goal or test
But that's just a personal definition
upper basin
To me, studying is learning for a specific task or goal or test
Well, you are learning for sth right?
There's sth that motivated/intrigued you to try it out.
whole bear
i get its part of DNA sometimes but im not sure if you can make it to like it withought having to be in your DNA
rugged root
Yeah but it's more because I'm curious and interested
Sometimes you have to trick yourself or find ways to make it interesting
What studying are you trying to do? Or what are you trying to studying
whole bear
OH OK I GET IT
rugged root
All-caps?
willow light
My adhd means there are days like today where I'm like "what even is an attention span anyway?"
wise loom
I've been very surprised how lightweight Alpine Linux is
rugged root
Currently I'm trying to learn Rust. Doing the Rustlings thing where it's more interactive. Currently learning about Macros
rugged root
I've been very surprised how lightweight Alpine Linux is
Kind of the point of it, isn't it?
willow light
I've been very surprised how lightweight Alpine Linux is
yeah it only takes half a sip of bud light to get it absolutely trashed.
rugged root
Well played
wise loom
They have two versions, one with openrc and the other with systemd
rugged root
I really didn't know it had alcohol, even just that smidge
whole bear
what languages do you guys like ?
willow light
English, Latin, Spanish, Japanese, etc.
rugged root
Python, C#, SQL, Rust, ReasonML
@upper basin I.... I mean I don't know what you would test
willow light
also Python, TypeScript, Rust, Go, and Coq
rugged root
Oh yeah of course
I mean only if you're doing it as a doc test
But you can still do a doc string and explain it all
stark river
python
upper basin
rugged root
I'd have to look more into doctest
stark river
tests is for backdoors /s
rugged root
To prevent or cause
https://docs.pytest.org/en/7.1.x/how-to/doctest.html Oh interesting. I should have figured that there was something in PyTest to do it
@upper basin Enterprise cares about getting things done, not whether it's done well
Deadlines, making stock holders happy, etc.
upper basin
<@664667836605661217> Enterprise cares about getting things done, not whether it...
Right, but what if the code breaks after adding some commit?
How do you make sure it's stable without testers.
upper basin
!e
lister = [0, 1, 2, 3, 4]
indices = [0, 1, -1, -2, -3]
for index in indices:
if index < 0:
print(lister[len(lister) + index])
@upper basin :white_check_mark: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 0.
001 | 4
002 | 3
003 | 2
This is my pan lol
wise loom
got burned p bad with soup
used a mix of neomycin and bacitracin
@peak depot are those good ^^ ?
rugged root
HOKAY
So
Main phone issue is (tentatively) fixed
Now for my phone issue
Same
@upper basin #unit-testing would know more
Hello
rugged root
Looks like a white blood cell
upper basin
Looks like a white blood cell
That's what he's going for.
rugged root
Makes sense now
scarlet halo
dutch pancakes
that shit look swedish
failed attempt at making a terminal emulator 😭
haughty sonnet
@upper basin why did you mute me?
haughty sonnet
<@664667836605661217> why did you mute me?
@upper basin
gentle flint
rich bison
colorblind?
gentle flint
ye
rich bison
oh ic
gentle flint
really love this new headphone jack
it's got a good mechanism to take up the wire strain
and it keeps the plastic well out of the way so it doesn't melt when soldering
there's also a little plastic sleeve which goes around the soldered pins before screwing down the housing so prevent it from short-circuiting
really nice design
this was our sponsor for today
gentle flint
Oh the thing Plome linked
sorry, it was rather offtopic
rugged root
The former
No no
Nice try
I mean in the functional sense ye
My brain is tired
This tracks
pytest has doctest integration
You can do both
whole bear
Brb
fast saffron
Hello
rugged root
@somber field I was seeing between $10 mil and $50 mil. https://quantumzeitgeist.com/the-price-of-a-quantum-computer/
cinder dawn
long time no see3
ngl im a bad driver so i rev my car in the most random places
@gentle flint uk brother here. It took me 2 years of learning to drive and £3000 to learn to drive
£1500 of that i got scammed
yeah i got fucked by the backlog too
gentle flint
@somber heath the headset jack is a triumph of Australian engineering
tbh if it travelled via Australia that certainly explains the price
somber heath
🤷♂️
gentle flint
it's a KS3PC-AU
and it is the nicest audio jack I have ever soldered
first one which just worked after soldering without any crosstalk
bronze quiver
somber heath
Victor Borge
rugged root
Ernest Borg 9
rapid chasm
rapid chasm
dutch pancakes
Looks like Swedish pancakes to me 
slender latch
slender latch
My boy stacked... I take so much red meat i dont even need to take creatine
harsh vortex
Is there anyone that can help me with an application I am trying to write in pygame? Please dm me.
somber heath
@magic crow👋
magic crow
@somber heath i see that i cannot verify voice hahahaha
yes!
yeah
oh okay
Dev, how do you review python?
yes
yes
is it easy to master python?
okay
thank you!!
good to learn only one language to become a professional or learn various language with background knowledge??
@somber heath oh
wow
not decide yet
learnt some database basic
I gtg, thanks for the good informations!!
👍
somber heath
@verbal monolith👋
somber heath
Oh, that's right, I can type.
jade badger
gentle flint
Looks like Swedish pancakes to me <:2_PeepoShrug:615931038094458910>
yeah spelis said so too
guess the swedes and the dutch make the same pancakes
deep cloak
allot of floating point data
forest zodiac
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quick kayak
hey how would i get a input in top level window
somber heath
What are you making?
quick kayak
a sign in page
somber heath
Are you using a UX framework?
somber heath
So yes.
quick kayak
oh ok
somber heath
Presumably, you'd use an appropriate widget.
quick kayak
yeah thats what i dont know
quick kayak
oh its fine
@somber heath CTkInputDialog
is one of them i just dont want a spare window opening
somber heath
I would talk to #user-interfaces or open a #❓｜how-to-get-help, because they'll be more plugged into what you need to be doing.
somber heath
@vocal basin 👋
somber heath
@round loom👋
upper basin
!paste
wise cargoBOT
upper basin
@vocal basin is this clean?
https://paste.pythondiscord.com/FP3A
vocal basin
!e
method_log = {"gate": 1, "etc": 7}
print(method_log)
method_log.pop("gate", None)
print(method_log)
method_log.pop("gate", None)
print(method_log)
@vocal basin :white_check_mark: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 0.
001 | {'gate': 1, 'etc': 7}
002 | {'etc': 7}
003 | {'etc': 7}
The rest is clean?
vocal basin
!e
```py
method_log = {"gate": 1, "etc": 7}
print(method_log)
method_log.pop("ga...
(this suggestion doesn't work)
the comment doesn't explain the only thing that it shouldn've explained: why create a new dictionary
upper basin
This one?
# Prepare a dictionary to log the method name and its arguments
method_log = {'gate': method.__name__}
# Update the parameters (if necessary)
updated_params = {k: v for k, v in method_log.items() if k != 'gate'}
Ohh ok, so if you have a look at the stuff above it, there are places where I am mutating the value.
So, we would then send the mutated values to the method being decorated.
gentle flint
vocal basin
```py
# Update the parameters (if necessary)
updated_params = {k: v for k, v in ...
neither the comment nor the variable name reflect why there's a need for a new dicionary
upper basin
neither the comment nor the variable name reflect why there's a need for a new d...
I see, I'll update the doc then.
vocal basin
questionable that it doesn't call the method here
https://paste.pythondiscord.com/FP3A#1L94-L94
upper basin
So when the angle is 0 or a multiple of 2pi, it's basically same as not doing anything, so I call return.
vocal basin
do all methods return None?
upper basin
All gate methods, yes.
vocal basin
anyway the method does more than just logging
upper basin
Ohh yeah, I need to update the docstring, thank you so much for catching that!
Completely forgot about it.
vocal basin
these should probably be frozensets defined outside the function
https://paste.pythondiscord.com/FP3A#1L41-L44
upper basin
I see. I have to look that up hehe, I haven't used frozensets before.
Like outside the class definition?
vocal basin
outside wrapper, and preferably outside gatemethod
upper basin
I see. I have the gatemethod as a static method inside my class definition at the moment.
vocal basin
(I would normally do this, to keep consistent with how logging frameworks generally treat method names separately from method arguments)
params = {} # renamed from method_log
# ...
instance.circuit_log.append((method.__name__, params))
return method(instance, **params)
@nimble kernel👋
nimble kernel
<@652395297506590721>👋
hi
somber heath
@peak depot
I think sometimes cats don’t actually know what specifically they want – they’re just generally dissatisfied, so they stand there yelling “I YEARN” on the off chance that you’ll be able to do something about it.
Yoinked from the internet.
peak depot
upper basin
(I would normally do this, to keep consistent with how logging frameworks genera...
What about
params = {'gate': method.__name__} # renamed from method_log
# ...
instance.circuit_log.append(params)
return method(instance, **params)
no, keeping method name outside the parameter list is the point
upper basin
Ohh right.
vocal basin
also that prevents collisions with arguments named gate
upper basin
yep yep.
gentle flint
you joined 14 days ago
whole bear
oh my bad
upper basin
(I would normally do this, to keep consistent with how logging frameworks genera...
Done.
vocal basin
ATP
urban abyss
yo
dire pebble
Let's say there are names and individual items for each name (person). I wanna be able to see the information of items by entering the name of whose the item is
Also wanna be able to update informations as a user @rugged root
vocal basin
!e
users = {"Alice": {"SomeField": 20}}
users["Bob"] = {"SomeField": -127}
print(users)
@vocal basin :white_check_mark: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 0.
{'Alice': {'SomeField': 20}, 'Bob': {'SomeField': -127}}
what are you guys working on?
vocal basin
if you want it saved => then yes, you'll need file system access
but if you're just interested in updating it while the program is running, dictionaries are enough
rugged root
Can also do a simple database, but that's a bit extra given the circumstances
vocal basin
when storing everything as a dictionary users, it may be represented as:
users = load_users()
update(users)
save_users(users)
there is a built-in library for converting dictionaries to strings and back
!e
import json
print(json.dumps({
'Alice': {'SomeField': 20},
'Bob': {'SomeField': -127},
}))
@vocal basin :white_check_mark: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 0.
{"Alice": {"SomeField": 20}, "Bob": {"SomeField": -127}}
!e
import json
users = {
'Alice': {'SomeField': 20},
'Bob': {'SomeField': -127},
}
as_str = json.dumps(users)
print(type(as_str))
print(json.loads(as_str) == users)
Yo
wise cargoBOT
@vocal basin :white_check_mark: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 0.
001 | <class 'str'>
002 | True
I’m here just making an espresso
fierce stratus
Hello
urban abyss
So can’t unmute lol
whole bear
speaking of json, has anyone ehere played heavy rain (if you know you know)
rugged root
Yep, that's why I said it the way I did
whole bear
david cage be like press x to feel emotions
stark river
tmi
dry jasper
rugged root
whole bear
that goes hard
vocal basin
finally, a descriptive commit name
https://github.com/parrrate/ruchei/commit/a15a1b7b2d918079f94d0815a6707dfa8b535b53
urban abyss
lilac notch
look at #ot2-never-nester’s-nightmare if you can, thank you from the mountain
somber heath
Like just the first bit.
vocal basin
what an incredible example of "didn't read the docs"
lilac notch
look at <#463035268514185226> if you can, thank you from the mountain
i am losing my balls at this.. dunno if i can use the cable 🤦
am i fucked if i run this like that?
dont worry, thats just 12 years of savings
rugged root
whole bear
i thought i did something cool with this prime sieve im screwing around with but it just adds 49 and 91 when the limit is 100
vocal basin
nvidia: let's put extra 2 pins so power supply makers put power on them for potential extension
power supply makers: leave them out because GPUs don't use them
nvidia: ...
rugged root
That tracks
vocal basin
but you shall remember that custom vendors may do almost whatever they want
so, yes, if there's fancy rgb it might fail
dire grail
RuntimeError: Model class django.contrib.contenttypes.models.ContentType doesn't declare an explicit app_label and isn't in an application in INSTALLED_APPS.
Sup
stuck furnace
.realpython classes
viscid lagoonBOT
rugged root
@dire pebble
vocal basin
@rugged root w3schools -- site to google, copy code and forget
vocal basin
(but that's reference not tutorial)
@rugged root language or what?
mkdocs
?
there is that, mdbook and github book thing
obsidian dragon
are the certificates from w3schools worth anything
upper basin
are the certificates from w3schools worth anything
Not really.
vocal basin
__new__ creates an instance, __init__ initialises it
upper basin
Best ones are from Azure, IBM, Google, and some Microsoft ones.
vocal basin
first responsible for making an object of proper type, second responsible for setting up proper invariants
there is __field is for avoiding collisions
also _ influences * imports I think
__new__ can be used to return subtypes or to implement singletons
almost always __new__ means no __init__ defined in the same place, otherwise somewhat hard to get right
(hard to get right being hard to prevent double-__init__)
vocal basin
almost always `__new__` means no `__init__` defined in the same place, otherwise...
in cases when that class can be instantiated
i.e. not an abstract base class
abc should throw in __new__ if cls isn't derived
upper basin
opencv2
rugged root
It should anyway I thought
Because not all methods in an ABC would be abc methods
Actually wait
vocal basin
__init__ is called after __new__ not inside
vocal basin
!e
# bad; don't
class Singleton:
__instance = None
def __new__(cls):
if Singleton.__instance is None:
Singleton.__instance = super().__new__(cls)
return Singleton.__instance
print(Singleton())
print(Singleton())
@vocal basin :white_check_mark: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 0.
001 | <__main__.Singleton object at 0x7fa7efcffb60>
002 | <__main__.Singleton object at 0x7fa7efcffb60>
I think generally libraries try to avoid this
so instead they have functions for getting the global/context variable (and initialising if there's none)
!d contextvars
wise cargoBOT
rugged root
Writing it here so I can check in a sec. Fortigate 61F
vocal basin
!e
```py
# bad; don't
class Singleton:
__instance = None
def __new__(cl...
I've only seen this technique used for stateless types that represent some sort of special value (None-like) while inheriting something else
initialising singletons (especially stateful) is generally a non-trivial task
yaml devops
it's not packaged because it can't be
uncut meteor
gtg
vocal basin
Cython not CPython
CPython is just the default implementation
and Cython is a compatibility layer with C
or rather a compiler/transpiler/whatever to make that compatibility layer less painful
concurrency
-related stuff
@amber raptor there are macro facilities and dumb functional stuff that comes from the language, which helps beyond systems programming;
but the compilation time is so long that for web APIs it's total pain
how did you end up with Flask
(rhetorical question)
> AI stuff is a C library
... or Fortran, at times
Python natively interacts with C
(CPython)
@upper basin
https://docs.python.org/3/extending/extending.html
upper basin
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https://docs.python.org/3/extending/extending.html
Thank you so much.
vocal basin
<@113304266269003776> there are macro facilities and dumb functional stuff that ...
(about Rust)
I think there was also a list of external tools for extension
sql join on api responses
urban abyss
GitHub flavoured markdown, is there any good solution for embedding snippets from other .md files (in other repos)?
vocal basin
GitHub flavoured markdown, is there any good solution for embedding snippets fro...
that sounds more like something that some sort of build/ci script does
urban abyss
<https://github.com/github/markup/issues/172#issuecomment-33241601>
yep, very sad. i was thinking 3rd party solutions as both github/gitlab don't support this.
vocal basin
I think mdbook supports markdown-to-markdown
with file inclusion
but only local files
urban abyss
that sounds more like something that some sort of build/ci script does
i think it would have to be in its current state. it's just not a nice flow having to update every downstream. it would be nice for this to just be a feature of how these files are rendered.
although all renderers would have to support that howver
urban abyss
I think mdbook supports markdown-to-markdown
that's interesting, not seen that one before.
can always include a commons.md 😆