u havent seen a SIGSEGV due to bad usage of malloc
#voice-chat-text-0
hearty egret
empty dawn
turbid sandal
event in <t:1690138800:R>
scarlet halo
tranquil abyss
!strem
wise cargoBOT
cosmic bison
I think this matches a domain name?
but tbf, reading regex is painful, writing (most of the time) isn't too bad
vocal basin
very slow gaming progress
tetris effect
100 is maximum level, I think
I still don't understand multiplayer tetris (with "garbage lines" spawning at the bottom of the field)
on jstris, I was only able to beat a bot when it was playing at .3 pps
vocal basin
on jstris, I was only able to beat a bot when it was playing at .3 pps
I myself play at around 1.0 pps
according to tetris effect stats
willow gate
can we run pygame on google Colaboratory?
willow gate
you can run pygame in replit, iirc
yes on replit i try
vocal basin
you need to select pygame not python
willow gate
you need to select pygame not python
yes on replit?
willow gate
https://replit.com/languages/pygame
yes i have tried it
vocal basin
because it's jupyter
willow gate
because it's jupyter
ok
vocal basin
hypothetically, it's possible to write an extension for jupyter
but I doubt colab will allow to run it
does colab ever allow custom jupyter extensions?
willow gate
does colab ever allow custom jupyter extensions?
don't know
vocal basin
I myself play at around 1.0 pps
well, that's not that bad of time odds, now that I think about it
I thought I usually played way faster
(maybe it just averages to only 1.0, and normally it's more)
willow gate
guys i want to create a web scraper using can gudie me little bit about it
willow gate
just for programming experience?
want to create a project, yes
this year i have to submit 2 projects to college
stoic chasm
i borken
vocal basin
guys i want to create a web scraper using can gudie me little bit about it
step 1: read ToS of websites you're scraping
willow gate
i like i have an idea to create a webiste will will shows best offers of ecom websites like amazon etc
willow gate
step 1: read ToS of websites you're scraping
terms and service ?
vocal basin
terms of service
vocal basin
many e-commerce sites have APIs instead which would be a better option
willow gate
many e-commerce sites have APIs instead which would be a better option
ok i will try them
tepid dragon
i like i have an idea to create a webiste will will shows best offers of ecom we...
good luck scraping all the data with the infamous amazon bot protection
willow gate
vocal basin
APIs might be paid, that could be an issue
willow gate
i want to create some like this
vocal basin
https://www.grabon.in/stores/
they are usually partnered with stores
willow gate
they are usually partnered with stores
Affiliate ?
tepid dragon
https://www.grabon.in/stores/
u indian?
vocal basin
affiliated, yes
vocal basin
affiliated, yes
that's why they get easier access to prices
vocal basin
want to create a project, yes
I'd suggest picking a project which is simpler from legislative perspective
willow gate
that's why they get easier access to prices
yes
vocal basin
though depends on what result is expected of a project
sometimes a detailed and reasonable explanation of why you failed at building something might be just as good
so, this way it'd be more of a research project
willow gate
affiliated, yes
when i make it affiliated it will come in e commerce ?
we don’t have to make e commerce projects
did you guys have good ideas for projects ?
i was thinking one more project like object detection for blind peoples
but had to work lot on that
like iot devices
@somber heath any idea for projects ?
vocal basin
!kindling
wise cargoBOT
vocal basin
list of lists of project ideas
more for inspiration rather than picking one of
"link to each other, coordinate and fail synchronously and on scale"
vocal basin
reducing cars in general is the more important way to achieve safety
vocal basin
until more clean ways of producing batteries are found, electric cars are at least just as bad as combustion cars
willow gate
until more clean ways of producing batteries are found, electric cars are at lea...
yes
vocal basin
they allow "move problem to poorer countries" to some extent but still
(even from exploitative perspective, places where electric cars drive suffer too, mostly because of fire hazard)
willow gate
(even from exploitative perspective, places where electric cars drive suffer too...
Usually in summer that battery catches fire
vocal basin
ironic how a problem with something that's labelled as an opposite to combustion cars, is combustion
willow gate
Hydrogen fuel ones are good?
vocal basin
thanks to weird nuances of English language, it can be said that "gas cars seem cleaner than gas cars"
because there's gas (hydrogen, methane, etc.) and "gas" as short for "gasoline"
obsidian dragon
vocal basin
tetris effect
funny bug again
obsidian dragon
vocal basin
(it should look like this)
willow gate
(it should look like this)
bye 👋
obsidian dragon
@vocal basinI tried to dm you about code a few days ago, it was not possible, I suggest we make it possible?
What OS would be simpler to use for website hosting, Ubuntu Server or Windows Server? maybe something else
vocal basin
anything that's not Windows Server
vocal basin
there's also plain debian, without extra ubuntu stuff
obsidian dragon
I have never usded this https://ubuntu.com/server
I have only ever hosed from my desktop Windows 10 but I don't want auto updates to ruin my server
verbal wind
I am very confused for why am I getting....whatever the fuck that is from Instagram while trying to search for tzinfo
verbal wind
God knows why
vocal basin
there's also plain debian, without extra ubuntu stuff
or AlmaLinux
which is RHEL derivative other than CentOS
rugged root
Mathematicians are the best folks to help you a loan, since they're more than happy cosine on it
Sorry, went on a bit of a tangent
vocal basin
> run kali as a server
the question is not how, the question is why
vocal basin
works way better for me than "VPN"s
(tor)
well, it works at least
free/commercial proxies are banned
lucid blade
@turbid sandal read this when you have time https://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
wind raptor
Rider is awesome
rugged root
It's good, just not community option
lucid blade
vocal basin
it's a little too troll-ish
rugged root
@turbid sandal https://github.com/mhxion/awesome-discord-communities/#c-and-c On that list, #include and Together C & C++ are two that are good
vocal basin
I worked on a C# project in VS for 5 years
I would've used Rider instead, but another person, that I was programming with, didn't have a license
and I couldn't be bother helping with an IDE I'm not using myself
somber heath
Yaas!
vocal basin
I found a way to make it look even worse
rugged root
Thanks I hate it
vocal basin
Red theme is pre-installed, iirc
rugged root
And the font?
vocal basin
font isn't
rugged root
God I'd hope not
vocal basin
Zapfino
"what we're doing is simple, so we make it look difficult keep other people away so they don't take our job"
rugged root
vocal basin
(about back-end, kernel development, embedded development)
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vocal basin
it doesn't handle diacritics well
obsidian dragon
obsidian dragon
vocal basin
C23 added binary literals
(0b10111 syntax)
before it was added by extensions
(gcc and msvc)
and others
in C
zenith radish
o
obsidian dragon
can repel use php
vocal basin
Joyent somehow managed to integrate Docker into illumos
zenith radish
what the fuck are they doing
vocal basin
lucid blade
zenith radish
why are they deploying to illumos
obsidian dragon
talking I think
vocal basin
datacenter-wide docker host
obsidian dragon
that don't fix the error in your code
frozen owl
lucid blade
when autoarm becomes autohand
frozen owl
vocal basin
why are they deploying to illumos
Bryan Cantrill not willing to give up the dream of deploying on Solaris
zenith radish
Haha
vocal basin
specifically this distribution
https://www.tritondatacenter.com/smartos
Triton is dying, I think
lucid blade
vocal basin
Moscow rolls out facial recognition payments in transport
obviously, already used for tracking opponents of the regime who are dumb enough to use this system
midnight stone
hello guys i am kind of new in python can somebody help me in private chat?
vocal basin
hello guys i am kind of new in python can somebody help me in private chat?
why private?
midnight stone
ty
vocal basin
second channel explains how
turbid sandal
If I made a c++ program that cout's "Hello!" when I do $ testprogram hello It also make a varable called time that takes the current time and puts it in a address I am wondering if when the program is done the varable gets deleted or stays in memory, if so please tell me how I would store the pointer so that it always has one reserved adress that never gets over written. I want to make a c++ programm that has a function create, that creates some values in memory. They are constants that never get changed, they are used to store user Id System Specs and more constants. I want to always be albe to accsess them so when I do $ testprogram start it put all of the data in memory and stores the pointers permanently so that if the command $ testprogram get is run it takes the pinter and gets the data
vocal basin
If I made a c++ program that cout's "Hello!" when I do ``` $ testprogram hello ...
normally, all the variables stored in the program are inaccessible after the program stops
to store data between running program two times, you need to use disk or another program that doesn't stop
you can have a variable that persists over the duration of the execution using statics
whole bear
elon musk
vocal basin
@lucid blade
you know what increases violence in children?
literally teaching them to kill
let's stop that first
@lucid blade you believe in your freedom of harming others, we all understand that
is that coming from thinking that software specification is written before software?
you cannot implement software according to specification if it's complex enough
that's why it is evolving during the process, if people responsible for the spec aren't too incompetent
lucid blade
yes i agree with that but also said it was probably a bad example
vocal basin
wasn't austerity economics one of those things picked from "the study" and applied by politicians?
with one mistake tilting it from "looks like bad idea" to "looks like good idea"
@lucid blade method of measurement?
there's enough empty places in the ocean to never care and never explore
this is such a useless question
like, percentage doesn't make sense at all
such a handwaving
if you want to educate non-technical people, first thing you should give up is trying to reduce knowledge to a single number
lucid blade
@vocal basin that wasnt directly related to the topic but it just demonstrates how little we actually know ... and how some people are so insistent that the current understanding we have is as solid as we believe
if we knew everything already, nothing would change and we wouldnt advance
there are numerous examples where people presenting new ideas were ridiculed
vocal basin
tropes like "we know more about space than about ocean" are so extremely wrong that they shouldn't be repeated
making a point with a zero sense example doesn't make a point
even if the end conclusion is correct, meaningless arguments are to be confronted
lucid blade
it wasnt, it was supposed to demonstrate how little weve explored and how sometimes we should broaden our horizons
vocal basin
game theory is a mathematical model
it works, like, by definition
but doesn't apply well to reality, because preconditions aren't met
@amber raptor imo, game theory is good at warning how something might go wrong
"if we assume perfect conditions, even then these things still tend to fail"
not to be relied upon, but to be aware of
amber raptor
vocal basin
<@113304266269003776> imo, game theory is good at warning how something might go...
ironically, the dumb common understanding of what game theory is, is best describing what to take from it:
people might do something that harms them, even when following self-interest
(and that is true even without accounting for human irrationality)
warm thistle
Hi, I just joined what's this about?
vocal basin
nobel prize in economics
warm thistle
Oh. Like those that have won noble prizes in economics and the reason why?
amber raptor
How economics is all bullshit
warm thistle
Ahh.
cerulean ridge
How economics is all bullshit
I think economics are baby science, it is a new thing, people are still figuring things out.
Like, I don't think it is bullshit to dabble in a young field, I think it is a great thing.
No one is pretending that this is not case, except you.
and maybe few people with only a bachelor in econ, and of course shills
amber raptor
I think economics are baby science, it is a new thing, people are still figuring...
I think that's fundamental disagreement, it's not a science, it will never be a science unless economy becomes something that only involves a bunch of computer programs
cerulean ridge
what's your definition of science?
amber raptor
definition of science is observing something that you test and make predictions on, test your predictions and make more predictions. Anything involving humans is very difficult to do that on. Doing it at large scale is nearly impossible.
cerulean ridge
economics are doing exact that.
We have seen their predictions are pretty bad, as expected of a baby field.
doesn't mean they are not making prediction and testing.
amber raptor
they cannot make predictions period is my take, baby field is like saying GMail is still in beta. It's just trying to handwave away failures instead of being held to task.
cerulean ridge
How economics is all bullshit
you're saying, policy, fundamentally, cannot be studied?
amber raptor
you're saying, policy, fundamentally, cannot be studied?
policy can be studied but it's history, not science. There is a reason BA are given for history degress, not BS.
cerulean ridge
sure, how about this,
We should listen as much to economist as much as we listen to historians?
cerulean ridge
so historians are bullshit?
amber raptor
no but historians don't bill themselves as some oracles about policy. They say "Look, this is what happened last time policy was passed but we are looking at history. We could be totally wrong."
cerulean ridge
no but historians don't bill themselves as some oracles about policy. They say "...
oracles about policy
is this a typical economist?
I don't think typical economist bill themselves as some oracle about policy either
amber raptor
I don't think typical economist bill themselves as some oracle about policy eith...
some of them do
cerulean ridge
sure, lots of scientist are also coporoate shills. Does not make science is all bullshit
cerulean ridge
some of them do
I completely agree that we should respect economist as much as we respect historians. Politicians can talk to them for advise, they can become politicians.
IDK which economist hurt you as a kid, but "let's ban all economist from government because of their collective sin" is very far from what I wrote above.
split scaffold
why is it politics
i joined to screenshare minecraft
why are you guys talkibg about politics
oh
damn
well that sucks
somber heath
Maybe on the weekend.
split scaffold
on the weekend?
somber heath
Maybe.
willow gate
Hello guys
willow gate
Yo yo
sturdy panther
Hi!
willow gate
Guys anyone know any good apis website
rugged root
APIs for what? Just learning them?
willow gate
APIs for what? Just learning them?
Did you know?
dim dock
Oh. Like those that have won noble prizes in economics and the reason why?
noble prizes are scam
rugged root
Did you know?
Not off the top of my head. I'd just be googling for one
willow gate
Not off the top of my head. I'd just be googling for one
Ok I try but I get most of paid ones
I don't know which free are good
rugged root
rugged root
@vocal basin Yo
vocal basin
very slow xp grind
(tetris effect)
it suffers less from keyboard double-presses compared to many others
lapis sierra
hi
i can speak in 2h xD
i have no degree and i am working as dev
i am self educated, i just did try and error over years and got a job then, i can recommend freelancing to get into dev if you have no degrees
cedar briar
i can speak in 2h xD
Yay! Finally! I was about to ask you this.
Good luck getting the Voice Verification!
lapis sierra
can i see somewhere when i joined the server ?
my first message was @ 21 jul 11 pm but im not sure if i did write smth directly once i joined the server 😄
cedar briar
cedar briar
lapis sierra
i wrote you this at 21
h3llf1r3 — 21.07.2023 23:00
hi why can i not speak
maybe tz error ?
cedar briar
If you click your own profile, it'll be 21, I guess.
lapis sierra
true, but no datetime 😦
lapis sierra
i guess i will just spam this bot all and over again xD
hi
maybe your in the wrong pwd
did you use relative paths
wooden hollow
import pygame
pygame.init()
#create game window
SCREEN_WIDTH = 1000
SCREEN_HEIGHT = 600
screen = pygame.display.set_mode((SCREEN_WIDTH,SCREEN_HEIGHT))
pygame.display.set_caption("fighting game")
#load background image
bg_image = pygame.image.load("pycharm\Computer science project\Fighting game\Background\D_Background.jpg").convert_alpha()
#function for drawing background
def draw_bg():
scaled_bg = pygame.transform.scale(bg_image,(SCREEN_WIDTH, SCREEN_HEIGHT))
screen.blit(scaled_bg,(0,0))
#game loop
run = True
while run:
#draw background
draw_bg()
# event handler
for event in pygame.event.get():
if event.type == pygame.QUIT:
run = False
#update display
pygame.display.update()
#exit pygame
pygame.quit()
lapis sierra
the path is the error
you need to provide absolute path
or relative to your project
(i guess)
wooden hollow
Directory: D:\pycharm\Computer science project
Mode LastWriteTime Length Name
d----- 24/07/2023 20:10 .idea
d----- 24/07/2023 18:57 Dnd game
d----- 24/07/2023 20:14 Fighting game
-a---- 01/10/2022 19:45 44 count 1 - 100.py
-a---- 26/09/2022 17:39 420 drink purchase.py
-a---- 26/09/2022 18:53 1952 Ks.. + year...py
-a---- 09/07/2023 21:57 820 logical sequence.py
-a---- 17/09/2022 20:39 4936 main.py
-a---- 09/07/2023 22:49 871 num addition.py
-a---- 25/09/2022 13:49 150 number counter.py
-a---- 26/09/2022 17:22 327 number size check.py
-a---- 17/09/2022 21:40 189 Shopping list.py
-a---- 08/07/2023 18:17 972 voting system.py
PS D:\pycharm\Computer science project>
lapis sierra
in python always use lowercase snakecase this_is_snake_case
(for functions or files etc.)
cosmic bison
files are not snake case
lapis sierra
i use snakecase for my files
cosmic bison
they are just all lowercase according to PEP8
but it doesn't really matter, just don't include spaces
wooden hollow
lapis sierra
so what if you have a file lets say its named customfieldvalidator.py its more readable to use custom_field_validator.py dont understand this PEP8 then
cosmic bison
yeah, I agree it is a little dumb
cedar briar
bg_image = pygame.image.load("Background\D_Background.jpg").convert_alpha()
I actually used to do CamelCase or is this title case? idk
lapis sierra
PascalCase
cedar briar
Pasca...
wooden hollow
```py
bg_image = pygame.image.load("Background\D_Background.jpg").convert_alpha(...
C:\Users\Arash Bahrami\AppData\Local\Programs\Python\Python310\python.exe: can't open file 'D:\pycharm\Computer science project\Fighting game.py': [Errno 2] No such file or directory
lapis sierra
Pascal case is also fine for me, pascal case or snake case, sometimes i did use also pascal case for my classes and snake case for my function files 😄
cosmic bison
fair enough
It's fine as long as you stay consistent and don't mix things up to much. Like functions and classes should probably use seperate case
basically every case scheme is fine
lapis sierra
yea i agree
cedar briar
fighting_game.py
actually, good question, do you all do main.py or project_name.py for your main file
I always do main.py
lapis sierra
me2 im dogmated by int main lul
cosmic bison
lol
cedar briar
It's fun when you have a.py inside a folder named a.
cosmic bison
I've just started making my project structure like this everytime I start a new major project:
src/
main.py
readme.md
requirements.txt
makefile
.gitignore
Ooh, Makefile!
cosmic bison
Makes working with venv much easier
automatically reinstalls dependencies when requirements.txt changes
lapis sierra
did you try out poetry already
cedar briar
You need to be a chef to craft those sweet make recipes though.
lapis sierra
cosmic bison
did you try out poetry already
only heard about it recently, but haven't started in a new big project in like a year. Still working on my current one
lapis sierra
what are you working on
cosmic bison
A compiled programming language
lapis sierra
over python ? lol
cosmic bison
python3.11, llvmlite, rply (for the lexer), sphinx (for docs), and some other shite
cosmic bison
over python ? lol
the compiler targets llvm
lapis sierra
yea i see did you checkout MLIR
cosmic bison
i heard about it, but that was a year ago
cosmic bison
i want to do something with llvms also soon
it can be a little confusing, llvmlite is nice tho
lapis sierra
definetly need to check this one out tho
never heard that someone is using python for a lang
cosmic bison
the only issue is if you make your first compiler as complicated as I have. Realistically I should have thrown it away and started again, but I'm so close to boostrapping that it isn't worth it. I just need a few more features
lapis sierra
just heard about c or haskell
cosmic bison
never heard that someone is using python for a lang
its not horrible honestly
other than circular dependencies
I fucking hate circular imports
python cries every time, but sometimes you just have to
lapis sierra
i mean python has super capabilities in terms of readability and simplicity
but i just wonder cause its transpiled
cosmic bison
wdym? python is transpiled or are you talking about something else?
I know python is compiled to bytecode
but I don't know if you are talking about that
lapis sierra
sorry i was using the wrong word, interpreted i mean
but once you compile this stuff it makes no difference anyways i guess
cosmic bison
A few hundred lines compile in 0.5 seconds in my language. Alot of that is LLVM's slowness
not to mention arrays in my language are slower because of an interesting decision
well, compiling them is slower
import stdlib::*;
define main() {
my_array = [random(); 5];
// -> [53, 65432, 3423, 6984, 186] (5 Random values)
}
my language re-evaluates the expression, that makes it slower lol
but somewhat useful
lapis sierra
looks interesting
cosmic bison
github is in my status if you want to check it out
latest release version is always the buggiest, dev branch has more fixes but if you use the new features... expect bugs
I added struct templates for example.... turns out I need to take a completely different approach
lapis sierra
interesting to-dos 😛
cosmic bison
Making a language is actually a lot of fun tho. I do recommend it if you think you have enough programming experience to pull it off. It definitely isn't a beginner project
lapis sierra
i would love to do so but i need to make $$$ 😦
cosmic bison
interesting to-dos 😛
its not a full list, and some things wont be added (not in as ergonomic of a way as I could have wanted at least).
cosmic bison
i would love to do so but i need to make $$$ 😦
ah fair
lapis sierra
i work on an auth SaaS project atm
cosmic bison
is it interesting at least?
lapis sierra
you could create a usertype, on this usertype you could create fields (including data-types for validation) you can create schemas for this, basically you can create as much usertypes as you want for the application you create (you could create multiple applications) every application has its own endpoint with its own usertype endpoints where people could register / login, combined with 3rd party auth middleware (google, facebook,gitlab, github etc.) (if wanted/ setup) it would throw an error if your defined schemas are not fulfilled
cosmic bison
are you talking to me? or someone in VC?
lapis sierra
no, to you ^^
cosmic bison
ok just making sure
it does sound interesting so far.
hopefully it will all work out without too much trouble
cosmic bison
hopefully. I would do devlogs & showcases to attract attention
it could also help you find flaws
lapis sierra
thats a nice idea, i definetly will stick to it once i have a alpha out i guess
cosmic bison
Always be working on the product first ofc, if your devlogs slow you down too much, then make less of them
lapis sierra
yeah im currently im far from having something which works 😄 I am still working on the validation and custom datatypes part to setup some foundation i can build up on, doing all in kotlin to make use of reflection tho
i did a implementation in python but i stopped it since bool is a subtype of int that one i didnt like on python 😄 i needed to swap the lang for the use case
hi super, no im fine thx 🙂
bye bye
cedar briar
@lapis sierra Congrats on getting verified 😄
lapis sierra
@cedar briar thx yo 😄 im so happy bout that lol
cedar briar
Like a badge of honor, haha.
lapis sierra
XD
somber heath
im suppressed...i just dropped in to check...thanks
!voice
wise cargoBOT
somber heath
@whole bear 👋
wise cargoBOT
somber heath
@whole bear We can hear you.
whole bear
I have sound from pc but i cannot hear you guys
somber heath
!e ```py
def func(*args):
print(type(args))
print(args)
func('apple', 37, object)```
wise cargoBOT
@somber heath :white_check_mark: Your 3.11 eval job has completed with return code 0.
001 | <class 'tuple'>
002 | ('apple', 37, <class 'object'>)
@whole bear
!e ```py
def func(**kwargs):
print(type(kwargs))
print(kwargs)
func(apple = 5, pear = 10)```
wise cargoBOT
@somber heath :white_check_mark: Your 3.11 eval job has completed with return code 0.
001 | <class 'dict'>
002 | {'apple': 5, 'pear': 10}
!e ```py
def func(apple, pear, orange, **kwargs):
print(apple)
print(pear)
print(orange)
print(kwargs)
func(apple = 1, pear = 2, orange = 3, banana = 4, peach = 5)```
wise cargoBOT
@somber heath :white_check_mark: Your 3.11 eval job has completed with return code 0.
001 | 1
002 | 2
003 | 3
004 | {'banana': 4, 'peach': 5}
@trim night 👋
uncut meteor
uncut meteor
im asleep rn
dense ibex
@uncut meteor
play apex
Selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors @uncut meteor
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zenith radish
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uncut meteor
somber heath
@formal owl 👋
formal owl
<@894843667595022348> 👋
Hi
vivid jacinth
hey guys
vivid jacinth
remote: Write access to repository not granted.
orchid mauve
exotic moss
thats a new one
exotic moss
I am
orchid mauve
rotterdam2930
alpine pumice
!e
alpine pumice
0.0
rugged root
@runic rapids If you're wondering why you can't talk, check out the #voice-verification channel. That'll tell you what you need to know about the voice gate
rugged root
@uncut meteor I miss u
orchid mauve
solar flax
how much chat should i have to speak on this server?
vocal basin
!voice
wise cargoBOT
frozen owl
hello :D
vocal basin
@uncut meteor for what purpose?
there's bloom filter
I don't remember much else
hyperloglog
I sent a video some time ago
vocal basin
I assume this means "fact checked by no one"
allegedly also some colour-blind people still have the ability to differentiate colours in their brain that they don't see as separate
related to synesthesia too
Kevlin Henney is red-green colour-blind but has synesthesia between colours and numbers with red and green separated
hearty egret
```
'c. gkazlauskas@192-168-0-126.balticum.lt
...
bruh , how goodd is it tho?
i have heard M2 is worse compared to the god M1 is
vocal basin
rendering video was one of the selling points of M1
rugged root
Which makes sense 'cause Mac
hearty egret
@glad sandal is that cosmic (the rust one)?
hearty egret
rendering video was one of the selling points of M1
compiling opencv from source*
rugged root
I'm very sad that it's not Pope-OS
hearty egret
I'm very sad that it's not Pope-OS
well that wont be good for the children to use
vocal basin
@zenith radish
going back to the discussion about keeping Bryan Cantrill's dreams alive:
macOS historically had better dtrace and ZFS support, compared to Linux
zenith radish
<@82578210453192704>
going back to the discussion about keeping Bryan Cantrill's...
It's also POSIX complient
"real UNIX"
vocal basin
yes
frozen owl
"what colour's your bugatti" /j
cosmic bison
It's also POSIX complient
"real UNIX"
windows is posix 1 compliant, just not posix 2
vocal basin
oracle uncertified
vocal basin
I have awful cooling in my PC
frozen owl
lol
vocal basin
I have awful cooling in my PC
this is <10% load
I also suspect the sensor is malfunctioning and the actual CPU temperature is a little lower
because this CPU normally throttles way before it reaches 101 degrees
meanwhile the server is at an okay temperature
(server with passive cooling)
vocal basin
j4105 isn't that powerful
forest egret
meanwhile the server is at an okay temperature
how do you check the temperature?
vocal basin
it's, like, what, 10 watts?
vocal basin
how do you check the temperature?
sensors
vocal basin
in bash
forest egret
sorry, no idea
rugged root
Rectal thermometer
forest egret
temperature sensor?
echo garden
was i being heard?
echo garden
Rectal thermometer
rectal items tend to being your forte?
vocal basin
it shows 40~50 more than real temperature sometimes
forest egret
ohh you use Core Temp isn't it?
vocal basin
sensors uses coretemp as backend
frozen owl
you get homebrew on linux as well
rugged root
Huh
rugged root
Not sure how well that'd work for Linux, especially if you're overriding the distro's package manager
Although I say that, but you can use snap and flatpak
frozen owl
apt-get?
vocal basin
ubuntu already has snap and apt-get conflicting at times
rugged root
True
frozen owl
idk how i got homebrew working(?) considering the already fucked up nature of my computer
vocal basin
"just stuff everything into docker, who needs UIs anyway"
"if everything is inside docker, how is docker installed? yes"
forest egret
vocal basin
it used to show separate temperatures per core, now it doesn't
forest egret
what?
cosmic bison
I think we have the same cpu 🙂
vocal basin
it used to look like this for me
maybe I changed some setting, and I'm to dumb to find it
rugged root
@devout bloom I've scooted you to AFK because of the background noise
Please either mute when you're not speaking to stop the echo
Or use Noise Reduction
forest egret
I think we have the same cpu 🙂
i don't plan for gen 12 but i don't have enough budget for gen 13
vocal basin
both CPUs I use are from 2017
cosmic bison
I bought gen 12 because it was bundled with a new motherboard. I switched from a 8th gen
forest egret
but i think this cpu more than enough
cosmic bison
yeah, same
nimble epoch
Hemlockkkk
rugged root
Sup
nimble epoch
You tell me
forest egret
both CPUs I use are from 2017
and it still running in 60C above 😶
how many fan did you install in your case?
cosmic bison
yeah, I think whenever I have money, i am going to buy a cooler. I am using the default one
forest egret
yeah, I think whenever I have money, i am going to buy a cooler. I am using the ...
did your cpu overheat?
whole bear
What's is discussion is about anyone explain
forest egret
about PC parts
vocal basin
how many fan did you install in your case?
PC: 2
server: 0
forest egret
PC: 2
server: 0
what? Server 0? gosh
vocal basin
not counting GPU fans, because that doesn't count as installed
forest egret
yeah GPU don't count
vocal basin
what? Server 0? gosh
forest egret
😶
vocal basin
fun fact: this is a lie
it's almost exclusively used for embedding in SBCs, and supported memory size depends on the specific board
cosmic bison
about PC parts
hey, actually after upgrading to the 12gen i5,I cannot view cpu temps from windows (but can from linux and the bios)
are you able to get your cpu temps?
rugged root
Catch you later, Tyler
rocky dragon
can anyone help me how can I add a library on Visual Studio?
rugged root
On Visual Studio or Visual Studio Code?
rocky dragon
Visual Studio code
rugged root
You should be able to use the terminal built into VS Code and do your pip installs in there
Double checking
@rocky dragon Yeah if you do CTRL + `
That'll open up a terminal and then you can do your usual pip install blah
gentle flint
do remember to activate the venv in the vscode terminal as well
rugged root
Although if you're on Windows, I recommend using py -m pip install blah
gentle flint
it's not automatically activated with vscode
rugged root
Oh does it not? Mine did and I don't think I did anything special...
gentle flint
mine does very sometimes
but usually not
vscode itself activates it
but the terminal in vscode does not
molten pewter
rugged root
What is?
molten pewter
My Daughter's 7 year old check to do list
rugged root
@devout bloom #career-advice would be good for the general advice. #data-science-and-ml should help more with the specifics for that field
devout bloom
thank you
rocky dragon
You should be able to use the terminal built into VS Code and do your pip instal...
thank you so much man ❤
rugged root
That end up working?
rocky dragon
That end up working?
I just got back to my pc I'll try it in a sec
rugged root
Righto
gentle flint
These guys get.... intense sometimes
you don't say
rugged root
Being kind about it
gentle flint
@zenith radish do you have a news shkrelletin
vocal basin
mine does very sometimes
it often fails on startup, yes
it should activate in the terminal too, but sometimes terminal opens before the extension is ready
there is an option to enable it on extension load too, but I'm not sure it works properly
rugged root
@devout bloom https://javascript.info
Probably one of the best websites for learning JS
devout bloom
thank you sir got it
vocal basin
another reason why I dislike how VS Code handles venv in terminal:
it does everything via activation script, plainly pasting+running it
it looks ugly + sometimes it doesn't understand that it shouldn't activate venv
for example, when attaching to docker container shell
rugged root
True
vocal basin
... or when viewing logs of a container
rugged root
You can set terminal configs if you want, though
zenith radish
Lmk when to undeafen
gentle flint
lol
vocal basin
You can set terminal configs if you want, though
says "all" terminals
idk if there are ways to disable for some types
whole bear
whatsup?
never mind. just teasing
oh ait no worries lmao
ah i see i see
i see what u see huh
since he said no new projects i basically disagreed
willow gate
Guys any idea how to host django made website
vocal basin
my only experience with Ruby was related to forking a RoR project
whole bear
new companies and new projects is a huge gap and a HUGE strawman from his first initial argument
whole bear
one has his own pov
its not about his pov
he worded it sooooo wrong
ohhhh my
then blames me cuz he cannot communicate
vocal basin
my only experience with Ruby was related to forking a RoR project
(project originally started 10 years ago and too large to rewrite)
rugged root
Yeah that's why I'm around. I'm a good Rabbit and LP anger translator
I'm fluent in douche
whole bear
@rugged root elaborated the point a lot better
whole bear
Yeah that's why I'm around. I'm a good Rabbit and LP anger translator
LMAO
exactly
welcome each other, fam!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ngl idm whos right i couldve been wrong too
just him deafening himself like a 5 year old in kindergarten is just hilarious
rugged root
Trust me
whole bear
man has the coping mechanism of a todler
rugged root
That was the more mature option, honestly
whole bear
That was the more mature option, honestly
💀
rugged root
Otherwise it would have been more shouting
whole bear
sjfghsldfg
rugged root
I'd prefer if he stepped away rather than continued the yelling
gentle flint
whole bear
Otherwise it would have been more shouting
if you werent here it would be a worse option
this is just chat. no need to shout.
rugged root
Thankfully I'm here a lot
whole bear
since he would give arguments while not listening to my points
talking to a wall basically
but your point was valid @rugged root
and i agree my argument is void in that POV you gave
@rugged root plz tell them not insult others.
@whole bear just kiddos ignore em
rugged root
Oh trust me, I give them plenty of shit to fix their attitude. Although I should be harsher
whole bear
omg
whole bear
Oh trust me, I give them plenty of shit to fix their attitude. Although I shoul...
ehh idk 99% of the time when people act that way i usually just dip out and not argue
in this case i thought since this would be a fair misinformation from the (initially assumed by me) subject i thought id still give it a shot
rugged root
I've been friends with these guys for a long ass time. I'm probably mainly just numb to it/know how to tolerate and defuse them
Usually involves tranquillizer darts
whole bear
u bet
whole bear
Usually involves tranquillizer darts
damn they give you that as a discord mod?
pog
the bigger they are the harder they fall 😉
whole bear
<@98195144192331776> plz tell them not insult others.
people forget that debates are to educate and that you can always be right or wrong or both can be wrong or both can be right
the point isnt to have a "gotcha" or to win
but to educate/be educated
rugged root
Yeah they prefer to argue rather than debate
whole bear
Yeah they prefer to argue rather than debate
yeah
debate would be a nicer approach where you listen to eachother and do not heckle when someone has his view
and rather just explain why he/she is wrong
@vocal basin has been typing for 50 years now
i wonder what master piece of a novel she will release once she presses enter
rugged root
Must be a client bug, it's not showing on my end
whole bear
oh
ill screenshot it once i see it
every few mins i see her "is typing"
for a few seconds
and then it dissapears
since i joined the vc tbh
whole bear
maybe
true true
also anyone here has experience with minecraft servers?
tbh just have 2 questions
somber heath
Not for years.
whole bear
just a question regarding CurseForge and Essentials
do they require aditional steps during stepping up a mc server?
@rugged root
see?
vocal basin
isn't curseforge just a mod distribution site?
rugged root
Again, bug
whole bear
Again, bug
i know but rather wanted to ask
whole bear
isn't curseforge just a mod distribution site?
yeah it is
but idk much about mc
i just have a server and a friend asked me to host their mc server
so i got all stuff setup basically but wanted to know if those 2 have aditional stuff
vocal basin
not sure if overwolf's curseforge desktop client does anything server-related
whole bear
hmm good point
how about essentials?
since i know that mod hosts or something
idk i havent dived deep enough
you can basically host a server without portforwarding (from what i understand)
vocal basin
no linux
vocal basin
when I was setting up a modded server, I just copied the mods to a dedicated cloud host and synced with other clients
night pecan
ive been trying to firgure out what im doing wronf
vocal basin
with server itself running inside docker
night pecan
help please
rugged root
No
whole bear
not?
rugged root
Or I guess yeah
But is it specifcally needing to be checked for identity or equality
whole bear
i thought == was for string and objects?
vocal basin
IPython seems to incorrectly interpret newline?
whole bear
ahhhhh
rugged root
is is for object identity
whole bear
`is` is for object identity
ohhh gotcha!
rugged root
It's why you do is None since there's only ever one
vocal basin
sounds more like broken platform
whole bear
i gotta rewrite some code
night pecan
IPython seems to incorrectly interpret newline?
idk what that means im trying ot learn phyton for the first time
whole bear
LOL
whole bear
with server itself running inside docker
you use docker for it?
i just use the oracle free vps
i only use it for my discord bot
whole bear
thought id add the mc server to it too
night pecan
datacamp looks broken,
you can try using something else
any recommdations
rugged root
@keen ingot I moved you to AFK
wise cargoBOT
rugged root
@keen ingot If you're going to be talking to other people where you are, please either mute or use push to talk.
From the resources page, I recommend "A Byte of Python"
keen ingot
<@353937416790474762> If you're going to be talking to other people where you ar...
im an asshole
night pecan
1) https://docs.python.org/3/tutorial/index.html
im confused
keen ingot
fuck
rugged root
im an asshole
So that was intentional?
keen ingot
no
whole bear
any recommdations
you can also use chatgpt one sec
keen ingot
i had no idea
whole bear
i have something that helped a few friends
keen ingot
i got ur ping
vocal basin
you can also use chatgpt one sec
very bad for beginners
keen ingot
time to leave the server
rugged root
?
keen ingot
fk my life
night pecan
please just give me a hand
i dont know werre to learn from tbh
do u have somthing were i can type the code on the webstite
whole bear
got to: https://chat.openai.com/
Use the following prompt:
I wish to learn the python programming language from scratch with your help. You are going to act as an interactive Python tutor and expert. You have a complete understanding of python and have an understanding of the 10 stages needed to become proficient. You will start at stage one and explain all concepts for that stage to the user. Your response will also have a question for the user, to test that they have understood what has been taught. This question can require an actual bit of code that you will check for accuracy. If the user gets the answer right they will move onto the next stage. If they get it wrong they must answer a new question. Each time you respond you must ask the user what stage they are at.
@night pecan Add a line break after the print()
it will teach you the basics/bare minimum to understand how to write code/debug
night pecan
<@888078670592376923> Add a line break after the `print()`
it did not let me type print the error occored after
night pecan
it will teach you the basics/bare minimum to understand how to write code/debug
ok how long do u think it will take ?
rugged root
ChatGPT is not a good learning resource
whole bear
ChatGPT is not a good learning resource
its not
vocal basin
it will teach you the basics/bare minimum to understand how to write code/debug
it won't
whole bear
but that prompt is pretty poficient
rugged root
@night pecan https://python.swaroopch.com/
rugged root
I recommend starting with this
whole bear
ofcourse the sources you link are better
but the only difference is that chatgpt can offer an interactive learning envoirnment
whole bear
it did not let me type print the error occored after
i mean, in the script.py. line break after print('x is 1')
and point out mistakes etc
whole bear
ok how long do u think it will take ?
idk depends on you
vocal basin
i mean, in the script.py. line break after `print('x is 1')`
that's not the root cause
night pecan
untill i understand it
rugged root
I'd recommend the webpage first, honestly
rugged root
And of course you can ask us questions
night pecan
ok
rugged root
Of course
night pecan
what dose domain lead mean>]]
night pecan
oh
rugged root
-shrugs- It's just what we named it
night pecan
do u mind if i ask why i was muted
rugged root
Check the #voice-verification channel. That'll tell you what you need to know about the voice gate
rugged root
Yeppers
rugged root
The Byte of Python thing is a good start
whole bear
check https://educative.io
rugged root
It'll help you get your basics started
night pecan
is there a website or do i search it up
rugged root
If you prefer youtube, we've got a couple channels linked on our resources page as well
This one, that's the Byte of Python one
night pecan
ah thats a lot or reading
rugged root
!resources
wise cargoBOT
rugged root
We've got youtube as well
But you're going to have to get used to reading a lot at some point
You'll hit a point where you'll have to read documentation
rugged root
That's entirely preference
night pecan
ill choose of ur recommendation tbh
rugged root
I do better with text personally
But what may be best for you may be different
Although I don't recommend the various courses
A lot of times they don't go in depth enough and it's easy to just skip your way through without learning anything
rugged root
The site is the book
night pecan
OH
rugged root
Nothing to apologize for
vocal basin
looks like gitbook or whatever
rugged root
I think it is yeah
night pecan
do you mind if i dm you for help?
vocal basin
there is #❓｜how-to-get-help
rugged root
I don't mind, but yeah, typically we have the help system
I'm always happy to answer questions when I'm around
night pecan
oh ok
rugged root
But I will say on weekends I'm unavailable
vocal basin
first time I see this phrasing, I think
rugged root
And usually after work
night pecan
alr
i think ill start reading at the night time since i study ussaly aroun dthat time
rugged root
Sounds good
I enjoy explaining the beginner concepts and stuff, so if you need something explained or broken down differently, let me know
night pecan
also
i was wondering how long it would take for me to use phyton to learn other languages?
night pecan
or take on avrage
molten pewter
rugged root
That's really not easy to gauge. It's going to be dependent on the person. Some people get it faster than others. And there's nothing wrong with that, honestly.
Also depends on how often you're working on it and what have you
vocal basin
"I don't fucking know what 'liberal' is anymore"
rugged root
Happy to help
whole bear
hello guys
rugged root
@quasi condor
vocal basin
there is this
quasi condor
What I found is that the more political someone is, the more likely he or she is to believe that vaccines are unsafe. Those who are “very conservative” are one-and-a-half times more likely to believe this than moderates.
rugged root
That tracks
quasi condor
rugged root
!tvmute 702987421259923458 2w Since you don't seem willing to listen to staff instruction, you are losing your voice permissions. Do not interrupt others, do not play random noise into your mic.
wise cargoBOT
:incoming_envelope: :ok_hand: applied voice mute to @jade badger until <t:1691519857:f> (14 days).
zenith radish
zenith radish
vocal basin
why is it named just "Shuba" there
am I confusing it with something else
okay, they included the full name
molten pewter
CVS is evil: "Telephone, Text and Fax Policy
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Off to piano👋
night pecan
(:
rugged root
So I mentioned you can't access indexes that don't exist, that makes sense. And indexing is great for getting one element or character from a list or string respectively
But there's also something called "slicing" that lets you get a series of elements or characters
So for example
!e
ham = "Love me some spam!"
# we can get things via index
print(ham[1])
# but we can also get a slice
print(ham[0:4])
# we can also go beyond where the indexes are
print(ham[4:12312])
@rugged root :white_check_mark: Your 3.11 eval job has completed with return code 0.
001 | o
002 | Love
003 | me some spam!
Slicing is super handy
night pecan
so o:4 is a part of the sentance?
rugged root
Yep
It's saying grab all the elements starting from index 0 until index 4
Something to note, the first number is "inclusive", so it will contain 0, while the second number is "exclusive" so it will get everything up to, but not including, 4
night pecan
i dont understand the 12312 bit
rugged root
So the huge number thing is just me showing that you can specifiy something out of index and slices won't care
It'll just go until it can't get anything
rugged root
So let me try another way
night pecan
i understand that kinda
its just the 12312
throwing me off
i dont understand it what so ever
oh ok
also
rugged root
!e
ham = ["a", "b", "c", "d", "e"]
print(ham[:2])
print(ham[2:])
it showed me an excersise
wise cargoBOT
@rugged root :white_check_mark: Your 3.11 eval job has completed with return code 0.
001 | ['a', 'b']
002 | ['c', 'd', 'e']
oh
I UNderstand now
SO
2 IS FOR THE AMOUNT OF LETTERS
and on line 2
oh
ok
strings = []
names = ["John", "Eric", "Jessica"]
# write your code here
second_name = None
# this code should write out the filled arrays and the second name in the names list (Eric).
print(numbers)
print(strings)
print("The second name on the names list is %s" % second_name)```this was a question i got
but i dont understand what im ment to be doing
i tried it but it said it was wrong when i wrote it in shell
so idk
ive tried it like 5 times
rugged root
What have you tried thus far
rugged root
Yep yep
night pecan
