You can achieve something like that with typing.Literal, but it will only work for literals (whose value is statically known).
#voice-chat-text-0
stuck furnace
I think you might have to accept that this is something you won't be able to do with the type system.
vocal basin
overloads are only hints unless you do some black magic
match arg:
case 'A':
...
case str() | 'B':
...
brb
vocal basin
`overload`s are only hints unless you do some black magic
they are ordered so they can overlap
I think
first matched is what typesystem will take, ig
@pulsar island
maybe enums?
https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/4.2/ref/models/fields/#enumeration-types
there's match if you have py 3.10+
apparently, engineering job actually requires engineering, i.e. solving design problems not just applying existing tools
sounds like that should be a paid internship/contract not an interview
that's why you have microservices
autonomy both in development and deployment
it comes from thoughts like "let's put all people know DataBases in one team"
vocal basin
it comes from thoughts like "let's put all people know DataBases in one team"
which doesn't turn out good if taken literally or to an extreme
craggy hornet
Hi i can't hear why??
north yew
You're deafened
north yew
vocal basin
on a phone it might be more difficult to toggle
willow light
I live in fear of the day we have a .chatgpt integration
woeful salmon
vocal basin
I live in fear of the day we have a .chatgpt integration
.uwugpt, LP special
.uwu Just passing the output of ChatGPT to .uwu pipeline
viscid lagoonBOT
just passing the output of chatgpt t-to .uwu p-pipewine
vocal basin
LP was suggesting making .uwu AI-based
vocal basin
in some sense, programming is an action of explaining what to do
with varying degrees of declarativity
stuck furnace
I think to "understand" something is just to have a general model of it.
vocal basin
AI has no fundamental restrictions against understanding
willow light
I like how the AI acts stoned until I ask about literally anything technical, and then suddenly the entire personality evaporates.
vocal basin
AI has no fundamental restrictions against understanding
as for practical, quite a lot
main one being "understanding" by the model isn't yet useful
vocal basin
https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/4.2/ref/models/fields/#enumeration-types
yes, enums are appropriate for stuff like A or B or C or ...
vocal basin
as for practical, quite a lot
main one being "understanding" by the model isn't ...
if "understanding" helps the model do whatever we asked it for, there's nothing reliably stopping it from
...
there are reasons why captchas aren't solved by AIs
one being:
if you're making an AI to solve captcha, you're probably either working towards improving captchas or you're working against it (as in ToS violation type stuff)
quartz heath
Has anybody ever heard of mid journey?
whole bear
Big time!!
I have a friend using Ai to write all his blog articles with preselected keywords (SEO)
vocal basin
I have a friend using Ai to write all his blog articles with preselected keyword...
sounds like active vandalism towards blog writing
vocal basin
@midnight agate if this can be explained to GPT;
though right now I doubt I can explain it to a human with my current level of knowledge;
I think I should just write a proper learning course and only then try to feed it to the AI
vocal basin
I missed the fun part, I guess
north yew
@midnight agate Just gotta let you know that your speaking voice is fucking amazing lmao
vocal basin
@midnight agate seems like, it finally learned that comments are not something to overuse?
whole bear
@midnight agate you just sound cool man.
vocal basin
<@313797258200219648> if this can be explained to GPT;
though right now *I doubt...
making a course sounds fun
whole bear
πΆοΈ
vocal basin
tests taking too much time
vocal basin
*tests taking too much time*
I'm too used to seeing 0.00s because most of the tests don't deal with 1000+ iterations
I know I shouldn't have that much compute heavy tests
will fix later
pulsar island
class Battery(models.TextChoices):
status = models.CharField(default="")
level = models.IntField(default=0)
@property
def status(self):
if self.level =>85
return self.status("Green")
elif self.level 55<=>85
return self.status("Yellow")
elseif self.level <55
return self.status("Red")
it doesn't parse
if level >= 85:
return ...
elif level >= 55:
return ...
else:
return ...
or match
torn knot
Hi guys
vocal basin
or `match`
but in python it'll be uglier
sadly
match level:
case int() if 85 <= level:
return ...
case int() if 55 <= level < 85:
return ...
case int() if level < 55:
return ...
case _:
raise ValueError("invalid level value") # panic!
3.10 is enough
it's python anyway
Django doesn't use a custom language
for execution
unlike Flask
Flask can't async
vocal basin
will fix later
"fixed"
TDD or just unit tests?
there is TDD as red-green-refactor cycle
with smallest steps possible
there's a generalisation which is just writing tests first
TDD says you can't write two failing tests until you make one of them pass
which is unrealistic, I'd say
TDD works for small and simple things like algorithms and data structures
or something, for which the tests are obvious
whole bear
@north yew What is that sausage mixed with lamb and beef maybe?? They're like these spicy burgers??
more like a burger
north yew
whole bear
No, I had a Serbian friend and they made these burgers that you could only get in Serbia. im just trying to figure out what they were lol.
north yew
north yew
Pljeskavica
vocal basin
TDD works for small and simple things like algorithms and data structures
I can't really apply TDD to what I do right now because the project relies on the type system rather than the data validation
translating code to implement data structures on top of a distributed storage from Python into Rust
so, like, asynchronous trees, list, etc.
I'm writing in a very Haskell-like style
vocal basin
translating code to implement data structures on top of a distributed storage fr...
the big advantage from using Rust is that I can implement both for sync and for async, and for any other
not that
like
yes
how hard Rust is to learn depends on what you apply it to
for functional programming, it's easy
for systems programming, it's easy
vocal basin
like
suppose you have this
def stack_length(stack: Stack | None) -> int:
if stack is None:
return 0
else:
return 1 + stack_length(stack.rest)
async_stack_length: Callable[[Awaitable[AsyncStack] | None], Awaitable[int]]
async def async_stack_length(stack: Awaitable[AsyncStack] | None) -> int:
if stack is None:
return 0
else:
return 1 + await async_stack_length((await stack).rest)
but what if instead you could just do
def t_stack_length(t_stack: T[TStack] | None, t: Type[T]) -> T[int]:
if t_stack is None:
return t.pure(0)
else:
return (
t_stack
.map(lambda stack: stack.rest)
.bind(t_stack_length)
.map(lambda length: length + 1)
)
where T could represent either sync or async
thick pulsar
north yew
[8, 6, 4, 4, 9, 5, 2, 9, 6, 1, 5, 10, 2, 10, 7, 3, 3, 8, 1, 7]
[8, 6, 4, 4, 9, 5, 2, 9, 6, 1, 5, 10, 2, 10, 7, 3, 3, 8, 1, 7]
['β', 'β', 'β', 'β', 'β', 'β', 'β', 'β', 'β', 'β', 'β', 'β', 'β', 'β', 'β', 'β', 'β', 'β', 'β', 'β']
whole bear
when i use pyautogui, it says that "AttributeError: partially initialized module 'pyautogui' has no attribute 'moveTo' (most likely due to a circular import)" any idea on what this is?
vocal basin
what python version?
vocal basin
there's also Rust server
I think this invite is white-listed
https://discord.gg/rust-lang-community
vocal basin
when i use pyautogui, it says that "AttributeError: partially initialized module...
what OS are you running it on?
it's local, right? (not something like replit)
vocal basin
what version of pyautogui are you using?
whole bear
i dont know, how can i find that?
vocal basin
shown in pip freeze
pulsar island
wise cargoBOT
Settings/local.py line 23
SECRET_KEY = 'django-insecure-okc1n%x5k8_=a_dag$75a55g_#rpg&**^76x5mu@fp^xsxxqs&'```
lavish rover
oof
fallow musk
@pulsar island that's motivating. You have no idea how much I needed to hear that x)
Effort *
I'm here, I was just considering switching careers as I'm struggling with a leak x)
As in a memory leak, I'm coding with C.
It's the language I use the most yes.
Hahahaha
It's brutal.
Yup, that's what's happening rn
It's part of a school program. I literally have to recode Wolfenstein in C. (That's the very first fps game ever made)
They do hate us
I'm using pure c. No game engines no nothing.
T-T
the only thing i'm allowed to use is a graphic library
a very bad one called mlx
You too!
Good luck for your interview
You got this!
My progress for the wolfenstein game x)
Still have a long way to go x)
yup
I agree
Hahahaha
Wow
That's overwhelming
And for like viego they would have to customize it's ult for every other existing champion
that's crazzy
That
That must be such a stressful job
no way
NO WAY
I thought they got paid very well
yikes
damn
Ive read about the drama going on with riot
I don't want to do gaming x)
Eventually I would like to switch to AI
Smart
You too!
Sure thing
fallow musk
Hey! @midnight agate
Hahaha
Did you get your coffee?
Cool music
Hey! @somber heath
Well, in the grand scheme of it all we're all just behaving according to the chemicals in our brains.
so judging normally is very illogical
I'm here
somber heath
@sick harbor π
robust quiver
why is the 2nd edition expensive???
calm hearth
@somber heath Join us in Voice Chat-O
calm hearth
Hi hi. Did you need something?
Um Yeah
calm hearth
Hi hi. Did you need something?
Just having a little problem here
somber heath
To do with...?
gentle flint
why is the 2nd edition expensive???
Amazon book prices are generally a mess because of their algorithm
calm hearth
To do with...?
Sir,can you help me with installing the python plugin for InteliJ IDEA
IDE
somber heath
That's not something I'm familiar with.
gentle flint
google?
somber heath
Panic.
gentle flint
in the disco
gentle flint
it's a pile of sh**
all you're basically doing here is asking others to Google it for you
somber heath
I'm about to pee in my pants
More than I needed to know, but you do you.
gentle flint
so what we would do is google it
calm hearth
so what we would do is google it
I know
gentle flint
but then you might as well google it yourself
gentle flint
third result
"python | intellij idea documentation"
you could also google how to install plugin in intellij
presumably you install other plugins the same way as the python plugin
calm hearth
gentle flint
see
install plugins
calm hearth
presumably you install other plugins the same way as the python plugin
need to install the base intepreter
gentle flint
what does it say
gentle flint
need to install the base intepreter
well, then do that
calm hearth
what does it say
teaches how to install plugins
gentle flint
which is what you want, isn't it
gentle flint
then what do you want
calm hearth
this is the problem
gentle flint
Sir,can you help me with installing the python plugin for InteliJ IDEA
so your question here was actually "can you help me configure the python interpreter in the python module for intelllij"
calm hearth
so your question here was actually "can you help me configure the python interpr...
somewhat similar to that
gentle flint
have you tried googling that
calm hearth
have you tried googling that
em no
gentle flint
"configure interpreter python plugin intellij"
gentle flint
it's up to you
calm hearth
it's up to you
yeah I know
gentle flint
but you can run into similar issues anywhere
fixing them is something you're going to have to learn if you keep programming
and this is a perfect example
narrow down the issue, google it for steps to try
try those
narrow down the issue further
until you have a working solution
somber heath
Keep asking questions, though. But yes, it does do to look up instructions first, try to follow them, then, if you're still having trouble, ask for help.
calm hearth
fixing them is something you're going to have to learn if you keep programming
just a newbie
calm hearth
Keep asking questions, though. But yes, it does do to look up instructions first...
okay
I follow you advice becuz you're an adult
gentle flint
"configure interpreter python plugin intellij"
fyi googling this gave the following as the top result:
https://www.jetbrains.com/help/idea/configuring-local-python-interpreters.html
which is exactly what you seem to be trying to do
somber heath
People are going to be more amendable to helping if you demonstrate that you've tried and just got stuck. π
calm hearth
People are going to be more amendable to helping if you demonstrate that you've ...
kinda yeah
rugged root
Never seen this before. Kind of neat
Still looking into Elm (because I'm a glutton for punishment), and found a couple games (albeit simple ones) in the language: https://github.com/MartinSnyder/elm-snake/blob/master/src/Snake.elm
frosty star
rugged root
vocal basin
it might be ugly sometimes but it's consistent
rugged root
view : Model -> Html Msg
view model =
div []
[ button [ onClick Decrement ] [ text "-" ]
, div [] [ text (String.fromInt model) ]
, button [ onClick Increment ] [ text "+" ]
]
type Msg
= Increment
| Decrement
update : Msg -> Model -> Model
update msg model =
case msg of
Increment ->
model + 1
Decrement ->
model - 1
I wonder if rustfmt can be configured to format like that
{ ...
; ...
; ...
}
until I have an automated tool to format Rust like this, I'm not using it
rugged root
You can possibly customize it?
Elm has a formatter that comes with it
So it can do it for you if you hate writing the style
vocal basin
You can possibly customize it?
fork it rather
uncut meteor
It is an intentional design choice that there are no configuration options for gofmt. The benefit of eliminating bike shed discussion about formatting choices is considered to be more important than the cost of not permitting people to use their preferred style. The usual saying is that gofmt isn't anybody's preferred style, but it's adequate for everybody.
wise cargoBOT
uncut meteor
!zen one way
wise cargoBOT
uncut meteor
π
vocal basin
there's % but it's deprecated
you should know how to read it and replace with modern methods but not how to write it
uncut meteor
!zen be one
wise cargoBOT
uncut meteor
oml
rugged root
This `model` record does not have a `pasword` field:
68| , viewInput "password" "Password" model.pasword Password
^^^^^^^
This is usually a typo. Here are the `model` fields that are most similar:
{ password : String
, name : String
, passwordAgain : String
}
So maybe pasword should be password?
erlang+haskell
I wonder if there's something actually usable of this sort for erlang's area of application
stuck furnace
π
vocal basin
"there are two types of languages: functional and functioning"
3 minutes per year of downtime
at most
Erlang focuses on lightweight processes
"er(r)" vs "go"
"one is to think before doing, another is the opposite"
vocal basin
erlang+haskell
I wonder if there's something actually usable of this sort for e...
Erlang is dynamically typed
so, like:
you might get any data, you have to deal with it as appropriate as you can
reading through this because I realised I have stuff that might be useful to other people if written down
https://rust-lang.github.io/mdBook/guide/creating.html
rugged root
view : Model -> Html Msg
view model =
div []
[ viewInput "text" "Name" model.name Name
, viewInput "password" "Password" model.password Password
, viewInput "password" "Re-enter Password" model.passwordAgain PasswordAgain
, viewValidation model
]
viewInput : String -> String -> String -> (String -> msg) -> Html msg
viewInput t p v toMsg =
input [ type_ t, placeholder p, value v, onInput toMsg ] []
viewValidation : Model -> Html msg
viewValidation model =
if model.password == model.passwordAgain then
div [ style "color" "green" ] [ text "OK" ]
else
div [ style "color" "red" ] [ text "Passwords do not match!" ]
Anatomy of a book
vocal basin
reading through this because I realised I have stuff that might be useful to oth...
course on implementing and using Monads in Rust
will be done in ~40 years, I guess
align everything, make automatic formatters unhappy
viewValidation model =
if model.password == model.passwordAgain
then div [ style "color" "green" ] [ text "OK" ]
else div [ style "color" "red" ] [ text "Passwords do not match!" ]
type Msg
= Name String
| Password String
| PasswordAgain String
update : Msg -> Model -> Model
update msg model =
case msg of
Name name ->
{ model | name = name }
Password password ->
{ model | password = password }
PasswordAgain password ->
{ model | passwordAgain = password }
if is actually just a specific case of pattern matching expression
github pages
if you want back-end, then just pay
rugged root
vocal basin
`if` is actually just a specific case of pattern matching expression
"== should be either Equal or NotEqual enum not boolean"
match bool(condition):
case True:
...
case False:
...
match None:
case _ if condition:
...
case _:
...
match condition:
case c if c:
...
case _:
...
!e
match:
case _:
...
@vocal basin :x: Your 3.11 eval job has completed with return code 1.
001 | File "/home/main.py", line 1
002 | match:
003 | ^
004 | SyntaxError: invalid syntax
needs None or object() not to error
__match_args__ or something
uncut meteor
!e
match = catch = 5
match match:
case case:
print("what")
@uncut meteor :white_check_mark: Your 3.11 eval job has completed with return code 0.
5
!e
import keyword
print(keyword.softkwlist)
@vocal basin :white_check_mark: Your 3.11 eval job has completed with return code 0.
['_', 'case', 'match']
!e
match = case = 5
match match:
case case: print("what")
@uncut meteor :white_check_mark: Your 3.11 eval job has completed with return code 0.
what
!e
match = catch = 5
match match:; case case: print("what")
@rugged root :x: Your 3.11 eval job has completed with return code 1.
001 | File "/home/main.py", line 3
002 | match match:; case case: print("what")
003 | ^
004 | SyntaxError: invalid syntax
!e
match = "what"
match match:
case case: print(case)
@vocal basin :white_check_mark: Your 3.11 eval job has completed with return code 0.
what
rugged root
She's being too gentle
vocal basin
@woeful wyvern you don't really need to update all three at the same time
if you have
library
library user
library user
install off of git
yes
yes
a specific commit also
vocal basin
a specific commit also
this is what I do
with private repositories, you will have problems if you do Docker and stuff
vocal basin
requirements.txt
your_library @ git+https://repository_site/username/your_library.git@65656b40c6971253284f34752ffc86a0d29902b3
this is what I use
vocal basin
```plaintext
requirements.txt
your_library @ git+https://repository_site/use...
I have no idea how to do this with a private repo and Dockerfile
vocal basin
I have no idea how to do this with a private repo and Dockerfile
have git configured via ENV
temporary ENV
rugged root
vocal basin
this is what I use
and for transitive dependencies I have two options for each library:
library installs no commit-specific deps
library[full] installs everything it depends on
vocal basin
vocal basin
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Language_H
STERLING
UNOBTAINABLE
INADMISSIBLE
RADICES
SEEN-CHARACTER
OBEY
what would "FILING" keyword be used for
wise cargoBOT
day2/main.cbl lines 1 to 4
IDENTIFICATION Division.
PROGRAM-ID. Aoc2022Day7Part2.
AUTHOR "GDWR"
DATE-WRITTEN "07-12-22"```I don't question the purpose of "STERLING", it doesn't need one
let's revive language H
vocal basin
let's revive language H
(again)
faint raven
;compiler !epython book = input("what is your favorite book?: ") print(book) print("My name is {}, I'm {}".format("John",36))
vocal basin
print(f"My name is {name}, I'm {age}.")
rugged tundra
faint raven
are you a programmer? or engineer?@tender swallow
vocal basin
I think I should try using MongoDB at some point
I helped more people with it than I've written lines of my own MongoDB-related code (which is zero)
Ryan Dahl?
tender swallow
are you a programmer? or engineer?<@949532932689772564>
well ....i like to call myself a programmer....but i am not working or anything....soo yh i am getting there u can say
rugged root
vocal basin
I think I should try using MongoDB at some point
I helped more people with it th...
like, I know I should use motor if I ever use it in Python
rugged root
That was the Dino I was thinking of
uncut meteor
faint raven
@tender swallowsame me too
tender swallow
are you a programmer? or engineer?<@949532932689772564>
but i am working on uk side projects of my own
tender swallow
<@949532932689772564>same me too
cool mate
faint raven
but i am working on uk side projects of my own
that is really cool
tender swallow
<@949532932689772564>same me too
soo whtsup with this section....like is it for offtopic chats or wht ?
faint raven
yeah
tender swallow
cool
faint raven
pretty much you do can anything as long its not inappropriate
tender swallow
ig i have to complete my 50 msgs....to able to turn on my mic there....lol
faint raven
i can't spell
vocal basin
"sock puppet" always reminds me of Bryan Cantrill doing OpenSolaris community impressions
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zRN7XLCRhc&t=1767s
faint raven
ig i have to complete my 50 msgs....to able to turn on my mic there....lol
yup that is correct
tender swallow
pretty much you do can anything as long its not inappropriate
lol.....i dont do inappropriate
tender swallow
yup that is correct
soo yh ig i have lost the count....lol
should
i
type
things
this
way
to
faint raven
no don't do that
tender swallow
lol...sry
stuck furnace
@tender swallow Don't spam please 
tender swallow
<@949532932689772564> Don't spam please <:hyperlemon:435707922563989524>
sry bro...my bad
stuck furnace
Spamming to meet any criteria will get you temporarily or permanently banned from voice, and potentially the community.
faint raven
just keep typing like the way you were earlier
vocal basin
"sock puppet" always reminds me of Bryan Cantrill doing OpenSolaris community im...
at some point I should revive the meme page I had with Oracle-related memes
tender swallow
> Spamming to meet any criteria will get you temporarily or permanently banned f...
ohk roger tht......my bad....
tender swallow
just keep typing like the way you were earlier
yh ....roger tht
soo i suppose everyone here is probably programmers ...ryt ?
rugged root
@vernal warren
vernal warren
SyntaxError: invalid decimal literal
103545 INFO: Matplotlib backend "svg": ignored
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "<string>", line 12, in <module>
File "C:\Users\Pc\AppData\Local\Programs\Python\Python310\lib\site-packages\matplotlib\backends\backend_svg.py", line 11, in <module>
import uuid
File "C:\Users\Pc\AppData\Local\Programs\Python\Python310\lib\site-packages\uuid.py", line 138
if not 0 <= time_low < 1<<32L:
^
SyntaxError: invalid decimal literal
103893 INFO: Matplotlib backend "template": ignored
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "<string>", line 12, in <module>
File "C:\Users\Pc\AppData\Local\Programs\Python\Python310\lib\site-packages\matplotlib\backends\backend_template.py", line 34, in <module>
from matplotlib.backend_bases import (
File "C:\Users\Pc\AppData\Local\Programs\Python\Python310\lib\site-packages\matplotlib\backend_bases.py", line 45, in <module>
from matplotlib import (
File "C:\Users\Pc\AppData\Local\Programs\Python\Python310\lib\site-packages\matplotlib\backend_tools.py", line 19, in <module>
import uuid
File "C:\Users\Pc\AppData\Local\Programs\Python\Python310\lib\site-packages\uuid.py", line 138
if not 0 <= time_low < 1<<32L:
^
SyntaxError: invalid decimal literal
terse needle
>>> 1<<32L
File "<stdin>", line 1
1<<32L
^
SyntaxError: invalid decimal literal
please post your code
rugged root
terse needle
https://discord.gg/AhZxMGP2
@glad sandal
vernal warren
please post your code
if i wrote just import pandas and try to convert it to exe igot this
vocal basin
```
>>> 1<<32L
File "<stdin>", line 1
1<<32L
^
SyntaxError: invali...
looks like py2?
vocal basin
SyntaxError: invalid decimal literal
103545 INFO: Matplotlib backend "svg": ig...
looks like you installed uuid when you shouldn't have
pip uninstall uuid
@glad sandal Language H
vernal warren
ok i will try
vocal basin
let's create Language# H#
and introduce nullable STERLING
syntax:
STERLING????????????????
@terse needle how well moderated is that server?
I guess we could add it to the whitelist Β―_(γ)_/Β―
rugged root
Not against it, just not sure how relevant it is
somber heath
Quackages.
vocal basin
"just use illumos"
@woeful wyvern pip install -r requirements.txt
what are deploying on
vocal basin
```plaintext
requirements.txt
your_library @ git+https://repository_site/use...
this is how to specify a commit
just have setup.py
woeful wyvern
requirements.txt
py2sqlite @ git+https://github.com/antudic/py2sqlite.git```you don't need to manually build a wheel out of it, pip will do it automatically
woeful wyvern
vernal warren
looks like you installed uuid when you shouldn't have
ooh thank you it's solved
gentle flint
you don't need to manually build a wheel out of it, pip will do it automatically
if you pre-build the wheel you don't have to build it on every pip install
vocal basin
if you pre-build the wheel you don't have to build it on every pip install
I think that involves having a package repository in one form or another, so can't "just install off of git"
haven't yet looked into if there's an easy way to do that for non-PyPI packages
(non-PyPI as in not hosted at PyPI)
uncut meteor
gentle flint
I think that involves having a package repository in one form or another, so can...
can't you put the wheel in the git repo?
vocal basin
sounds like an awful idea
unless used with LFS
"military-grade: cheap and simple enough to be used by military"
vocal basin
can't you put the wheel in the git repo?
I have more or less the same view on it as this answer provides
I suspect the reason is that a wheel is basically a "compiled artifact", so you wouldn't usually find those committed into a git repository
https://stackoverflow.com/a/72487748
vocal basin
unless used with LFS
I wonder if usage with Git-LFS is sane in any capacity there
gentle flint
@glad sandal sΓ€po vill veta var du befinner dig
somber heath
"Ooga booga poor people"
vernal needle
woeful wyvern
del is a keyword, not a function
woeful wyvern
You use it to "delete" variables, usually I only use it in lists/dicts
For example, instead of doing mylist.remove(mylist[index]) you can do del mylist[index]
rugged root
I hate printers
I'll be on call in a bit
But I just have to let everyone know
I hate printers
woeful wyvern
I hate printers
fax
vocal basin
<@473859714162360320> for extension modules
(written in C)
ivory horizon
wnna play code clash?
gentle flint
no thx
whole bear
thats cool
molten pewter
vocal basin
Hemlock is now a single sound soundboard of "No"
if people use it instead of external ones, there's a benefit:
you can disable it
I'm totally for this becoming a de-facto monopoly on soundboards used by discord users
gentle flint
vocal basin
<? print $paginakop?>
what a clickbaity title
gentle flint
not to mention the very descriptive content
query($sql = "select * from tractorpullingwekerom_nl_paginas where itemby = '$paginaid' order by positie desc"); while ($row=mysqli_fetch_array($result)){ $itemfoto="images/noimgitem.jpg?curtime=".time()."'"; $id=$row["id"]; $titel=$row["titel"]; $filepage=$row["pagina"]; $fotopagina = str_replace("_"," ", $filepage); $selection = "tractorpullingwekerom_nl_afbeeldingen"; $result2=$db_init->query($sql = "select * from $selection where pagina='$id' and itemfoto='x' order by positie"); while ($row=mysqli_fetch_array($result2)){ $afbeeldingtitel=$row["titel"]; $itemfoto="images/".$fotopagina."-".$afbeeldingtitel."-item.jpg"; } print ""; print ""; } ?>
on the page
ivory horizon
bye.
vocal basin
incorporating leap seconds reliably is unreasonable
they are unpredictable
too chaotic
panic! in the kernel
wth are these names
LX changed to L for a minute
gentle flint
vocal basin
another one on the "Australia's always on fire" topic
gentle flint
@somber heath https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centralia_mine_fire
gentle flint
novel sleet
always look on the bright side of life~
Eric from the Monty Python film is singing at RSA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xo8g6yM0mVc
vocal basin
!e
print(f"{.5:0%}")
@vocal basin :white_check_mark: Your 3.11 eval job has completed with return code 0.
50.000000%
flat sentinel
faint raven
my code sucks
!epython score = "you scored {:.0%}" # this line tells you the percentage! print(score.format(0.50)) # the format is displaying the number of the %
wise cargoBOT
@faint raven :white_check_mark: Your 3.11 eval job has completed with return code 0.
you scored 50%
!epython print(f"{:.50%}")
wise cargoBOT
@faint raven :x: Your 3.11 eval job has completed with return code 1.
001 | File "/home/main.py", line 1
002 | print(f"{:.50%}")
003 | ^
004 | SyntaxError: f-string: expression required before ':'
@glad sandal commercial or closed-source?
desert wolf
Talking some kind of enterprise FOSS slack for admins?
vocal basin
<@689087720018280478> commercial or closed-source?
if you want to forbid the second, go with GPL
I don't think charging for a open-source code is sane idea
desert wolf
have you seen the world we live in?
vocal basin
in "the world we live in" developers charge for support and closed-source extended features
desert wolf
yes, and people also charge for FOSS
vocal basin
yes, and people also charge for FOSS
then it's not FOSS
lunar ice
Pip install scrapy
glad sandal
faint raven
then it's not FOSS
whats foss?
vocal basin
syapo
faint raven
@vocal basin thank you friend
vocal basin
but it's actually diaeresis
no, it's neither
so weird
go go VS Code
another funny thing is when your terminal starts to be 100 times slower
though the real fun starts when reloading doesn't help
vocal basin
!rule 5 don't go too far with that topic, ig
wise cargoBOT
vocal basin
to pay for open-source, you need your profit to depend on open-source
this # formatting is so cursed...
what has gone wrong there
dense ibex
hi
sweet lodge
dense ibex
hello my friend
vocal basin
I can't work (hireability-wise) so I don't really have any option for now other than doing random quasi-open-source stuff
the more I hear stories like that, the more I lose faith in academia specifically and humanity generally
the best thing about the project I work on right now is that AIs have absolutely no clue how to make things like that
well, one of good things
rugged root
the best thing about the project I work on right now is that AIs have absolutely...
Well now I'm curious
gentle flint
jobs:
test:
name: ${{ matrix.os }} / ${{ matrix.nsq-version }} / Python ${{ matrix.python-version }}
runs-on: ${{ matrix.os }}-latest
strategy:
matrix:
os:
- Ubuntu
python-version:
- "3.7"
- "3.8"
- "3.9"
- "3.10"
- "3.11"
nsq-version:
- "nsq-1.1.0.linux-amd64.go1.10.3"
- "nsq-1.2.0.linux-amd64.go1.12.9"
- "nsq-1.2.1.linux-amd64.go1.16.6"
include:
- os: Ubuntu
python-version: "3.12-dev"
nsq-version: "nsq-1.2.1.linux-amd64.go1.16.6"
vocal basin
Well now I'm curious
there's too much specific and hard design choices which can't be solved generically
like, it requires actual thinking and domain-specific considerations almost everywhere
it's also in Rust, so AI is going to get so many things so much wrong
gentle flint
vocal basin
Discord should have an option to open any chat to the right, not what it has right now
vocal basin
Discord should have an option to open **any** chat to the right, not what it has...
technically there is a way:
pop out the stream
deft bison
Hey, I'm in high school and I'd like to know what you would recommend me to look into if I want to get a job in programming. I know the basics of java and python. Thanks and sorry if my english is kinda bad, I'm from Germany
mortal burrow
π
rugged root
π
rugged root
Hey, I'm in high school and I'd like to know what you would recommend me to look...
No no your English is just fine. For job stuff, I usually point folks to the #career-advice channel. They'd be able to guide you to job resources or advice than I could offer
gentle flint
unittests:
strategy:
matrix:
python-version: [ '3.8', '3.9', '3.10', '3.11']
runs-on: ubuntu-latest
name: Unit tests, Python ${{ matrix.python-version }}
steps:
- name: Check out source repository
uses: actions/checkout@v2
- name: Set up Python environment
uses: actions/setup-python@v2
with:
python-version: ${{ matrix.python-version }}
- name: Install packages
run: python -m pip install .[test]
- name: Run unittests
run: python -m pytest tests
3.12 seems to not have rc yet
testing is not TDD
not all unit testing is TDD
just don't worry about TDD if it's not beneficial/fun/any good for you
but writing unit tests is quite useful and generally relatively simple, if done correctly
for game dev, extract as much as possible into unit testable parts
you can also add monitoring and validation for the system (the game)
@rugged root a test at a time not tests
vocal basin
you can also add monitoring and validation for the system (the game)
that preferably should happen in production too
if that doesn't hinder the performance too much
go go Sphinx
3.5 is the oldest one I worked with
"so for my little world, 3.4 is prehistoric"
learn all three ways (asyncio, threading, multiprocessing) and more
and learn when to apply them
3.12 isn't rc
it's a
dense ibex
!user
wise cargoBOT
deft bison
Thx
vocal basin
learn all three ways (asyncio, threading, multiprocessing) and more
and learn wh...
these three aren't all what exists
at least, there are also actor models/message passing/etc.
gentle flint
!pypi build
wise cargoBOT
lucid blade
vocal basin
for building there's caching
@dense ibex
if it's in docker build phase, this might help sometimes:
https://docs.docker.com/build/cache/
if the issue is that you have to "rebuild everything"
vocal basin
<@670802831678373908>
if it's in docker build phase, this might help sometimes:
...
this sacrifices reliability for optimisation
what you're doing sounds like what you shouldn't be doing
adding dev container functionality on top is faster than installing stuff into a dev container
wdym "buster is old", it's only 2019
not as bad as having to use ubuntu 14
vocal basin
adding dev container functionality on top is faster than installing stuff into a...
so, like, the way I use it (and what Rabbit was talking about earlier) is this not using base images
this
@lucid blade
there are some whitelisted servers
deft bison
think discord wouldn't die... it't too big
vocal basin
too much lock-in rather than too big
deft bison
and for privacy reasons I think it would be an improvement
hate the 50 messages requirement... I'd like to talk, but I'm missing that...
where is the devcon?
deft bison
https://defcon.org/ this one?
lucid blade
YEH
deft bison
already watched some ccc talks
do you have talks that I can watch wich are interesting?
like titles would be realy great
lucid blade
deft bison
why would you get into trouble?
understood π
can you tell me some channels in voice where to find good talks?
lucid blade
faint raven
!e ```python
score = "you scored {:.0%} on your drug test"
print(score.format(1.0))
i literally pass my brug test!```
wise cargoBOT
@faint raven :white_check_mark: Your 3.11 eval job has completed with return code 0.
you scored 100% in your drug test
@worthy cypress π
ivory horizon
ruby brook
hellooo @somber heath
somber heath
@whole bear You good?
junior ermine
hey!
guys can you help me with a problem compiling my code?
actually it works in the ide, but not when i package it in an ee
exe
1 sec
headphones
whole bear
auto-py-to-exe
junior ermine
im using that one
actually...
it runs , but many
maaaaaaaaaaaaaany times
it runs itself and never do anything
i mean it opens itself many times
and use a lot of memory
but does not do anything
i think i do
should i remove it?
its setted to 5000
what ?
oh yes
1 sec
whole bear
The depth of the recursion stack
Yes that won't be enough if your function never reaches a point where it stops calling itself
somber heath
!code
wise cargoBOT
whole bear
Can you show us the code where you have that function?
whole bear
`
junior ermine
how?
somber heath
!paste
wise cargoBOT
junior ermine
somber heath
I don't use Python to exe software, so I may be of limited help, but let's take a look.
junior ermine
tks
whole bear
if lang == 'en':
for ent in doc.ents:
print(ent.text, ent.label_)
os.system("main2.exe")
else:
os.system("main2.exe")
Are you sure this piece of code is correct?
whole bear
Because you're calling main2.exe anyways
The only difference is you're printing something
junior ermine
those programs are my translators
they are lready compyiled
then why it runs in the ide?
thanksss
but it does run in the ide
not i n the exe
yes it is
it is in the same folder
yes
yes i do
how can i solve?
im compiling it again
peak copper
junior ermine
somber heath
@feral valeπ
Yahoy.
I don't, no. #databases.
Okiedoke
@wintry mothπ
You can use ChatGPT if you don't care about the answer it gives you being right or not.
somber heath
We're doomed.
wintry moth
I dotn have permission to speak idk why π
somber heath
!voice
wise cargoBOT
woeful wyvern
player_id | score | time_duration
wintry moth
Dm i need more time to talk
woeful wyvern
SELECT * FROM Attempts ORDER BY score, time_duration LIMIT 1;
somber heath
I'm listening.
Mr. Hemlock comes here quite regularly.
About half an hour ago.
@rapid chasm
Yes.
@lost remnantπ
lost remnant
hii
somber heath
Hemwok
Howlers.
"Ah, yes. A headache. Let's go stare into a screen."
Dogs roll in poo.
Washing your hands is a reasonable after-petting action.
rugged root
rugged root
True dat
rugged root
You'll want to check the #voice-verification channel
That'll tell you what you need to know about the voice gate
lunar ice
rugged root
That's fact
terse needle
@rugged root isn't this awesome
=> (import functools)
=> (defn [functools.cache] fib [n]
... (match n
... 0 0
... 1 1
... _ (+ (fib (- n 1)) (fib (- n 2)))
... )
... )
=> (fib 100)
354224848179261915075
=>
I understand it, but I hate it
somber heath
Define D drive.
rugged root
But I think that's my irritation with prefix operators
terse needle
But I think that's my irritation with prefix operators
they're the best part
I'm not a fan of the way decorators are implemented but i'm not sure how else they would do it
I think decorators are more suited to pythons syntax and really in hy we should be using macros
rugged root
So in the case of:
terse needle
because python decorators are very lisp macro inspired
rugged root
(match n
0 0
1 1
...)
That's just saying if 0 then 0 and if 1 then 1?
terse needle
yes
rugged root
And since it's just the value it just returns it
terse needle
it just evaluates whats on the right hand side if it matches the left hand side
terse needle
and they are implicitly returned
rugged root
Hold on
terse needle
Since it'd be the last thing the function sees
yes
rugged root
it just evaluates whats on the right hand side if it matches the left hand side
Not following that
safe pumice
rugged root
How do you mean?
terse needle
if it matches 0 it evals 0 and returns it
rugged tundra
lunar ice
terse needle
rugged root
@terse needle https://package.elm-lang.org/packages/elm/core/latest/Basics#Never For some reason this isn't clicking in my brain
lunar ice
safe pumice
(FastChatEnv) PS D:\Users\nasan\FastChat> python download-model.py anon8231489123/vicuna-13b-GPTQ-4bit-128g
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "D:\Users\nasan\FastChat\download-model.py", line 196, in <module>
links, sha256, is_lora = get_download_links_from_huggingface(model, branch)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
File "D:\Users\nasan\FastChat\download-model.py", line 130, in get_download_links_from_huggingface
fname = dict[i]['path']
~~~~^^^
safe pumice
somber heath
Yo.
pallid hazel
sigh.. another script rebuild.. turns out building an async framework to run nonasync i/o requests speed things up a little bit.. offered a layered timeout for batch runs, but overal introduced some flakeyness.. so back to rewriting a refined processpool, threadpool version.. working ok so far..
mostly due to a subprocess call burried in the nonasync section.. it didnt like that, and trying to feather async to it didnt really seem functional or ideal
pallid hazel
sadly the async packages for snmp arent session bound.. so it would hammering devices with a new session every request that are grouped.. walks, bulkgets are fine.. requires a lot of reprocessing.. but for testing they introduce a monkey wrench for what im doing
where as now i can keep a session alive while waiting on its turn in tests..
somber heath
I once guessed a coin toss eleven times in a row. So for $20 a pop, I'd be $220 up on the deal.
We didn't try for twelve.
My friends started to get a little weirded out.
dense ibex
TypeError: sqlalchemy.sql.elements.TextClause.bindparams() argument after ** must be a mapping, not list
dense meadow
somber heath
@dense ibexTeach them for extra credit.
rugged root
@wintry beacon
wintry beacon
wintry beacon
somber heath
Oh man. I just realised.
You know how they made the movie "A Dog's Purpose"?
A Cat's Purpose.
Alternatively, A Cat's Purrpose.
wintry beacon
Lame
wind raptor
Alternatively, A Cat's Purrpose.
Yess! Next big hit!
What is a cat's purpose though?
safe pumice
rugged root
py -0p
safe pumice
(FastChatEnv) PS D:\Users\nasan\FastChat\repositories\GPTQ-for-LLaMa> py -0p
-
D:\venvs\FastChatEnv\Scripts\python.exe
-V:3.11 C:\Python311\python.exe
-V:3.10 D:\Users\nasan\anaconda3\python.exe
-V:3.9 C:\ProgramData\Anaconda3\python.exe
-V:ContinuumAnalytics/Anaconda39-64 C:\ProgramData\Anaconda3\python.exe
rugged root
py -3.10 [other stuff you need to do]
safe pumice
(FastChatEnv) PS D:\Users\nasan\FastChat\repositories\GPTQ-for-LLaMa> python -V
Python 3.11.0
(FastChatEnv) PS D:\Users\nasan\FastChat\repositories\GPTQ-for-LLaMa> py -3.10 [other
stuff you need to do]
D:\Users\nasan\anaconda3\python.exe: can't open file 'D:\Users\nasan\FastChat\repositories\GPTQ-for-LLaMa\[other': [Errno 2] No such file or directory
wise cargoBOT
rugged root
somber heath
"StOrAgE iS cHeAp..."
wind raptor
'C:\Program Files\NVIDIA GPU Computing Toolkit\CUDA\v11.8'
safe pumice
velvet tartan
wind raptor
!stream 762972477479059489
wise cargoBOT
β @safe pumice can now stream until <t:1682608966:f>.
mild quartz
whole bear
A friend of mine keeps trying to get me to work on a quant trading project, but im too much of a noob.
mild quartz
stuck furnace
Oh you should check out Freddy the robot π
It could assemble a toy car from parts scattered on a table.
This is back in the 1970s at my alma mater (University of Edinburgh): https://www.aiai.ed.ac.uk/project/freddy/
lucid blade
stuck furnace
You can use a technique called "smoothing" for stuff outside the training data.
This is one approach: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GoodβTuring_frequency_estimation
Although I think what Hemlock is talking about is giving the model agency to explore its environment.
lucid blade
if you get any weird output please post it here ... https://www.reddit.com/r/WTFAI/
stuck furnace
A model-based agent acting in a partially observable environment has to make decisions about how best to gain information about that environment.
This is classic agent-based AI stuff π
The model we typically use for uncertain environments is something called a "Markov decision process" (MDP). So that's a term you could search for.
Anokhi, just wondering, what was your route into AI/ML?
whole bear
You guys should look into drones and LiDAR. Theyβve been using LiDAR on drones recently to 3D scan areas to build 3d models. Thereβs been a few companies doing the cloud processing and using AI for things like maps.
I fly a cinelog 25
lucid blade
photoscan
whole bear
Surveying is also a kind of a gated field, so itβs tough to sell LiDAR to avg consumers.
somber heath
KD vector math.
whole bear
I just miss in game trading, but it turns out that creates black market economies. The future sucks ππ
lucid blade
i still think gaming was 100x better in the 90s
whole bear
i still think gaming was 100x better in the 90s
Same!
stuck furnace
Things that look like exponential growth often turn out to actually be logistic growth π
I tend to take the economic view, that new technology is essentially just improvements in efficiency, and those improvements eventually have diminishing returns.
whole bear
theres DNA hard drives.
stuck furnace
There's a scheme in London to use waste heat from the London Underground to heat buildings π
Ah we switched to a heat-pump based dryer recently, from gas powered.
Even in fairly low temperatures they can work reasonably well apparently.
Thermal camera?
Well all matter gives off radiation. The frequency of the radiation is proportional to the temperature.
somber heath
We are little lamps.
ivory horizon
need to increase my voltage
stuck furnace
Well all matter gives off radiation. The frequency of the radiation is proportio...
That's how you can detect heat using an infrared camera.
lucid blade
ivory horizon
start using nokia 3310
rugged tundra
Want ChatGPT query bot in Discord?
stuck furnace
Something I think would be cool is an AI powered tool for front-end testing. I.e. you give it an screenshot of a web page, and a textual description of features that should be present, and it tells you whether that is the case.
rugged tundra
lucid blade
yo
silver sluice
Hi LX
stuck furnace
@woeful wyvern π
whole bear
@silver sluice I used to go to a MMA gym where the coach constantly made political jokes. It kind of felt the same.
silver sluice
I like political jokes, but I dont say them around people who are uncomfortable with them
(Im from the balkans, our politics are different btw)
My county is going to have its 5th election in the span of 2 years lol
woeful wyvern
SELECT missionId, score, totalTime FROM Session WHERE teamId=53 GROUP BY missionId ORDER BY score, totalTime;
stuck furnace
When you group by, you need to aggregate the groups.
woeful wyvern
SELECT missionId, score, totalTime FROM Session WHERE teamId=53 GROUP BY missionId, score, totalTime ORDER BY score, totalTime;
stuck furnace
Can you remind me what result you want?
woeful wyvern
SELECT missionId, score, totalTime FROM Session WHERE teamId=53 GROUP BY missionId, score, totalTime ORDER BY score DESC, totalTime LIMIT 20;
uncut meteor
SELECT
s.score,
DISTINCT s.missionId,
s.totalTime
FROM
Sesssion s
WHERE
s.teamId = ?
GROUP BY
s.score DESC,
s.totalTime ASC;
SELECT s.score, DISTINCT s.missionId, s.totalTime FROM Sesssion s WHERE s.teamId = 53 GROUP BY s.score DESC, s.totalTime ASC;
a greg ate gregs
terse needle
a greg ate gregs
!otn a a greg ate gregs
wise cargoBOT
:ok_hand: Added a-greg-ate-gregs to the names list.
stuck furnace
Cya
uncut meteor
cya
woeful wyvern
ivory horizon
select p.id, p.mission_id, p.scores, p.total_time from ( select mission_id, max(scores) as mx from sessions where team_id=? group by mission_id) t join session p on p.mission_id=t.mission_id and p.scores = t.scores order by p.total_time where p.team_id=?
woeful wyvern
ERROR 1064 (42000): You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near '=t.missionId and p.scores=t.scores order by p.total_time' at line 1
rugged root
@mystic lily Will depend on the kind of site it is
And their terms and conditions
Ideally if you can use their API, that'd be best
@teal jetty Sup
mystic lily
will there's no api and donno about t and c
rugged root
What're the sites?
woeful wyvern
select p.id, p.missionId, p.score, p.totalTime from ( select missionId, max(score) as mx from Session where teamId=53 group by missionId) t join Session p on p.missionId=t.missionId and p.score = t.mx order by p.totalTime;
mystic lily
sites like betfair
dense ibex
@rugged root are you busy rn?
dense ibex
sure
woeful wyvern
select p.id, p.missionId, p.score, p.totalTime from ( select missionId, max(score) as mx from Session where teamId=53 group by missionId) t join Session p on p.missionId=t.missionId and p.score = t.mx WHERE p.teamid=53 order by p.totalTime;
SELECT * FROM Session WHERE teamId=53 ORDER BY missionId, score DESC, totalTime
SELECT * FROM ( SELECT *, ROW_NUMBER() OVER (PARTITION BY missionId ORDER BY score DESC, totalTime) AS ranking FROM Session WHERE teamId = 53 ) ranked_sessions WHERE ranking = 1;
rugged root
@worthy cypress Do you have the code I can look at?
ivory horizon
cya guys.
quaint venture
can i ask what are you programming?
terse needle
long iron
hello
terse needle
rugged root
@faint pivot Enjoying my crappy old let's plays?
faint pivot
<@494508091283603462> Enjoying my crappy old let's plays?
Yeahahha the letsplay list is impeccable π
rugged root
Bah, not really
faint pivot
idk its nostalgic
rugged root
Oh yeah?
rugged root
True, looking back I do need to play through some of those again
faint pivot
kaizo mario 2
rugged root
I never did finish Kaizo 2 did I
Maybe I should do that again... see if I'm even capable of it
faint pivot
Maybe I should do that again... see if I'm even capable of it
Whahahaha, good luck in advance
How can you see who clicks on your 'connected apps'? never knew it was possible
faint pivot
no headphones ahhaha
rugged root
Weird
faint pivot
my life is built around audio problems, i'm not shocked
faint pivot
let me try again with another YT video
hear anything?
weird
sussy discord ngl
thanks for letting me know before I truly embarrass myself
vivid palm
terse needle
- test
pallid hazel
@rugged root you done a voice over?