discord-bots

[frozen patio]

Alright so I am trying to ping the user at the top when they win, but when I do it in this code it gives an error that says 'list' has no attribute 'mention'.
How can I fix this?

[sick birch]

Should be winner instead of winners

[scarlet sorrel]

thats what it returns?

[sick birch]

An instance of it, yes

[scarlet sorrel]

wym instance

[sick birch]

An instance of a class

In this case, datetime.datetime

[scarlet sorrel]

so to get a date i should do discord.utils.snowflake_time(id).datetime ?

[sick birch]

It returns a datetime.datetime by default, you don't have to call .datetime on it again

[frozen patio]

No that is not it

[sick birch]

Can you print out winner and winners?

[frozen patio]

Well it all worked, until I wanted to add where it pings the winner

I am just looking to ping the winner

[scarlet sorrel]

oh

[frozen patio]

And send that embed with it

[sick birch]

I know what you're trying to do with it, can you print winner and winners though?

Something strange might be going on

[cursive barn]

you don't need to print winner - the traceback says its a list. so you must find where you declare it and ensure you haven't done so by initiating a list. perhaps by sending your full code we can assist more @frozen patio

[frozen patio]

Alright

[frozen patio]

Here is the code: https://srcb.in/24zJbazGf3

Let me know what I am doing wrong

[sick birch]

looks like you're using winner = random.choices() so it's going to return a list

[frozen patio]

Oh

[sick birch]

I'm not sure why you have both winner and winners though

[frozen patio]

Ok, well, how can I just ping the winner

[sick birch]

There are multiple, which do you want to ping?

[frozen patio]

The winner whom won the giveaway

[sick birch]

It looks like your code allows for multiple winners however

[frozen patio]

Yes

[sick birch]

So, you want to ping all of them?

[frozen patio]

Yes the winner(s) of the giveaway

[lyric apex]

Bro this loop is giving NoneType object

[sick birch]

' '.join([winner.mention for winner in winners])

You need to sort out winner/winners in your code first

[lyric apex]

[sick birch]

You're sure that ID is valid?

[lyric apex]

Yep

[sick birch]

Then it's probably not in your bot's cache, which case you can try to use fetch_channel

[lyric apex]

ohk lemmie try that

[lyric apex]

Argument is positional?

[cursive barn]

so first, you have a table value set here: py time, prize, message, channel, guild, participants, winners, finished = table[0], table[1], table[2], table[3], table[4], table[5], table[6], table[7]
and then later you overwrite that with py winners = []
I would recommend some object naming clarification with that.

Secondly, I would recommend condensing lines 68-74 into a list comp, something like py winner = [guild.get_member(int(user)).name for user in random.choices(participants, k=len(participants)] or k=winners depending on how many people are entered.

Thirdly, you need to use a string comp function to build your message when you send it, typically via the .join() function. ```py
message = f'Congrats to {", ".join([user.mention for user in winner])} for winning the giveaway'

[sick birch]

What do you mean?

[lyric apex]

self.client.fetch_channel()
So i have to give it a channel id so is it keyword or positional?

[sick birch]

I don't believe it has to be a kwarg

[cursive barn]

it is not afaik

[sick birch]

Though positionals can be kwargs, so if you want to go right ahead

[smoky cedar]

Just updated the parameter name for my bots command and this

How can I refresh the servers commands?

[sick birch]

Are you using d.py?

[smoky cedar]

Yes discord_slash w d.py

[sick birch]

Ah, can't assist with discord_slash. Regular d.py I can do

Speaking of, discord.py has built in slash commands, consider migrating to those instead of frankly outdated libraries

[lyric apex]

@sick birch

This is coming

[frozen patio]

Alright, well, why would I have to change those and not the ping

I thought it would be simple just to make a simple ping

[cursive barn]

my third suggestion solves your ping issue. the first two are simply pieces of advice from 20+ years of coding experience

[frozen patio]

So I need to put message = inside of the send function

[cursive barn]

no

you need to declare your message following the format i used

you tried to call .mention on the whole list rather than the items in the list, which is solved by nesting a list comp of user.mention inside of a .join method

[frozen patio]

I got this error with your fix:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/home/container/.local/lib/python3.10/site-packages/nextcord/ext/tasks/__init__.py", line 168, in _loop
    await self.coro(*args, **kwargs)
  File "/home/container/cogs/giveaway.py", line 77, in giveawayCheck
    message = f'{", ".join([user.mention for user in winner])}'
  File "/home/container/cogs/giveaway.py", line 77, in <listcomp>
    message = f'{", ".join([user.mention for user in winner])}'
AttributeError: 'int' object has no attribute 'mention'

[visual island]

user seems to be an int

[frozen patio]

That might be the ID

Yep it is

You can't do str element here either

[slate swan]

is there anyway to add an attachment to an embed by a link?

[slate swan]

just do

[f"<@{user}>" for user in winner]

[pulsar bay]

    @commands.Cog.listener()
    async def on_member_ban(self, guild, user):
        reason = "Anti-Nuke | Banning Members"
        whitelisted = db.find_one({ "guild_id": guild.id })['whitelisted-users']
        async for i in guild.audit_logs(action=AuditLogAction.ban):
   
            if i.user.top_role >= guild.me.top_role:
                return
 
            if i.user.id not in whitelisted:
                await guild.ban(i.user, reason=f'{reason}')

2022-06-03T00:49:52.188846+00:00 app[worker.1]:   File "/app/cogs/antievents.py", line 20, in on_member_ban
2022-06-03T00:49:52.188846+00:00 app[worker.1]:     if i.user.top_role >= guild.me.top_role:
2022-06-03T00:49:52.188883+00:00 app[worker.1]: AttributeError: 'User' object has no attribute 'top_role'

Any help?

[frozen patio]

Uhhhhh That worked 1 time

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/home/container/.local/lib/python3.10/site-packages/nextcord/ext/tasks/__init__.py", line 168, in _loop
    await self.coro(*args, **kwargs)
  File "/home/container/cogs/giveaway.py", line 80, in giveawayCheck
    msg = await channel.fetch_message(message)
  File "/home/container/.local/lib/python3.10/site-packages/nextcord/abc.py", line 1513, in fetch_message
    data = await self._state.http.get_message(channel.id, id)
  File "/home/container/.local/lib/python3.10/site-packages/nextcord/http.py", line 337, in request
    raise HTTPException(response, data)
nextcord.errors.HTTPException: 400 Bad Request (error code: 50035): Invalid Form Body
In message_id: Value "Congrats @frozen patio!" is not snowflake.

[slate swan]

well youre trying to use an attribute that the User class doesnt have

[pulsar bay]

well then how do i check if a user is higher than the bot

[slate swan]

it needs to be an int of the id of the message

[frozen patio]

the ID is an int

[frozen patio]

How can I get this to work many times

[cursive barn]

remove the .name part of your winner selection list comprehension @frozen patio

[pulsar bay]

^

[pulsar bay]

^

[slate swan]

hm?

[slate swan]

an if statement

[slate swan]

you want it to fetch many messages?

[pulsar bay]

obviously

i have that already check my code

[slate swan]

@pulsar bay were you trying to do that comand on a bot?

[frozen patio]

Ok I fixed that, but if I enter a giveaway with 2 or more winners I win and no one else who enters

No matter how many people entered

[pulsar bay]

…….what

[slate swan]

User class belongs to bots I'm pre sure

[sick birch]

discord.User is a model, it doesn't belong to anything

[slate swan]

oh my bad

@sick birch is there anyway to add an attachment to an embed by a link?

[potent spear]

set_image? or....

!d discord.Embed

[unkempt canyon]

discord.Embed

class discord.Embed(*, colour=None, color=None, title=None, type='rich', url=None, description=None, timestamp=None)```
Represents a Discord embed.

len(x) Returns the total size of the embed. Useful for checking if it’s within the 6000 character limit.

bool(b) Returns whether the embed has any data set.

New in version 2.0.

For ease of use, all parameters that expect a [`str`](https://docs.python.org/3/library/stdtypes.html#str "(in Python v3.10)") are implicitly casted to [`str`](https://docs.python.org/3/library/stdtypes.html#str "(in Python v3.10)") for you.

Changed in version 2.0: `Embed.Empty` has been removed in favour of `None`.

[sick birch]

Inside the embed?

[keen mural]

class Fight3(discord.ui.View):
    def __init__(self, context: commands.Context):
        super().__init__(timeout=None)
        self.value = None
        self.command_ctx = context```
with my view, `timeout=None` works, but if i plug in an amount of seconds like 5 it instantly times out, anybody know what im doing wrong?

[slate swan]

yes, I can't use set_image though

[pulsar bay]

@sick birch

[buoyant zodiac]

async def setup(bot):
    await bot.add_cog(Server(bot))
``` "coroutine 'setup' was never awaited
  setup(self)"

[shrewd apex]

did u await it while loading it like
await bot.load_extension()

[sick birch]

What version d.py are you on?

[cursive barn]

setup and bot.add_cog shouldn't be coroutines iirc

[sick birch]

With 2.0, yes they are

I'm suspecting that they're on an older version but using the async version of setup, so d.py calls it w/o awaiting

[buoyant zodiac]

2.0

[vital glacier]

Anyone here that knows stuff about working with errors and commands.MissingRequiredArgument, getting them to send embeds from a different cog (help embeds)

Because rn I am trying this:

    @commands.Cog.listener()
    async def on_command_error(self, ctx, error):
        ignored = (commands.CommandNotFound, commands.UserInputError)
        if isinstance(error, ignored):
            print(error)

        if isinstance(error, commands.CommandOnCooldown):
            m, s = divmod(error.retry_after, 60)
            h, m = divmod(m, 60)
            if int(h) == 0 and int(m) == 0:
                await ctx.send(
                    f' {ctx.author.mention}, you must wait **{int(s)}** seconds to use the **{ctx.invoked_with}** command!')
            elif int(h) == 0 and int(m) != 0:
                await ctx.send(
                    f' {ctx.author.mention}, you must wait **{int(m)} minutes** and **{int(s)} seconds** to use the **{ctx.invoked_with}** command!')
            else:
                await ctx.send(
                    f' {ctx.author.mention}, you must wait {int(h)} hours, {int(m)} minutes and {int(s)} seconds to use the **{ctx.invoked_with}** command!')
        elif isinstance(error, commands.MissingPermissions):
            missing = [perm.replace('_', ' ').replace('guild', 'server').title() for perm in error.missing_permissions]
            if len(missing) > 2:
                fmt = '{}, {}'.format(", ".join(missing[:-1]), missing[-1].lower())
            else:
                fmt = ' and '.join(missing)
            _message = '{}: **{}** requires the `{}` permissions'.format(ctx.author.mention, ctx.invoked_with,
                                                                         fmt.lower())
            e = discord.Embed(
                description=f'{_message}',
                color=0xf8a424
            )
            await ctx.send(embed=e)
        elif isinstance(error, commands.MissingRequiredArgument):
            return Help.send_command_help()
        return error

but the last elif isinstance won't work and I can't seem to figure out how I can fix it

[sick birch]

You call .send_command_help() on the bot instance iirc

[slate swan]

is that a thing? (edit: ig not)

!d discord.ext.commands.Context.send_help

[unkempt canyon]

discord.ext.commands.Context.send\_help

await send_help(entity=<bot>)```
This function is a [*coroutine*](https://docs.python.org/3/library/asyncio-task.html#coroutine).

Shows the help command for the specified entity if given. The entity can be a command or a cog.

If no entity is given, then it’ll show help for the entire bot.

If the entity is a string, then it looks up whether it’s a [`Cog`](https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/latest/ext/commands/api.html#discord.ext.commands.Cog "discord.ext.commands.Cog") or a [`Command`](https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/latest/ext/commands/api.html#discord.ext.commands.Command "discord.ext.commands.Command").

Note

Due to the way this function works, instead of returning something similar to [`command_not_found()`](https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/latest/ext/commands/api.html#discord.ext.commands.HelpCommand.command_not_found "discord.ext.commands.HelpCommand.command_not_found") this returns `None` on bad input or no help command.

[buoyant zodiac]

can anyone help me install stuff thru python on linux

[slate swan]

python -m pip install <library>

[keen talon]

*python3

[slate swan]

not really

[keen talon]

Why not

[slate swan]

this is hosted on a linux server

[keen talon]

Then why does everyone ask to use python3 instead

👀

[stone beacon]

I think that's because there are 2 versions of cpython

The 2.7.x and the 3.x.x

[slate swan]

distros like ubuntu have 2.7 and 3.9 both installed

[buoyant zodiac]

error : could not find a version that satisfies the requirement random

[slate swan]

anyone know?

[stone beacon]

Yup yup

[slate swan]

correct

[slate swan]

why not?

[buoyant zodiac]

?

[slate swan]

you don't need to install random, its included in stdlib

[slate swan]

the api im using for a seperate command has a bug and if it's not an attachment it wont send as a gif.

may i see ur code

[slate swan]

Sure.

@client.command()
async def pet(ctx, *, user: discord.Member = None):
  embed = discord.Embed(title=f"Pet!", color=discord.Color.blue())
  av = str(user.avatar_url)
  replace = av.replace("webp", "png")
  embed.set_image(url="https://api.popcat.xyz/pet?image={}".format(replace))
  await ctx.send(embed=embed)

[buoyant zodiac]

okay now how can i install discord.py 2.0

[slate swan]

you can use aiohttp to read the bytes of the image @slate swan and then send it as a local attachment

!local-file

[unkempt canyon]

Thanks to discord.py, sending local files as embed images is simple. You have to create an instance of discord.File class:

# When you know the file exact path, you can pass it.
file = discord.File("/this/is/path/to/my/file.png", filename="file.png")

# When you have the file-like object, then you can pass this instead path.
with open("/this/is/path/to/my/file.png", "rb") as f:
    file = discord.File(f)

When using the file-like object, you have to open it in rb mode. Also, in this case, passing filename to it is not necessary.
Please note that filename can't contain underscores. This is a Discord limitation.

discord.Embed instances have a set_image method which can be used to set an attachment as an image:

embed = discord.Embed()
# Set other fields
embed.set_image(url="attachment://file.png")  # Filename here must be exactly same as attachment filename.

After this, you can send an embed with an attachment to Discord:

await channel.send(file=file, embed=embed)

This example uses discord.TextChannel for sending, but any instance of discord.abc.Messageable can be used for sending.

[slate swan]

Would this save the gif to my pc?

[slate swan]

check if you have git installed first ,tupe git in the terminal

[buoyant zodiac]

i do

[slate swan]

nope, only the cache

[slate swan]

oh, How would I read the bytes then?

[slate swan]

pip install -U git+https://github.com/Rapptz/discord.py

[slate swan]

!d io.BytesIO

[unkempt canyon]

io.BytesIO

class io.BytesIO(initial_bytes=b'')```
A binary stream using an in-memory bytes buffer. It inherits [`BufferedIOBase`](https://docs.python.org/3/library/io.html#io.BufferedIOBase "io.BufferedIOBase"). The buffer is discarded when the [`close()`](https://docs.python.org/3/library/io.html#io.IOBase.close "io.IOBase.close") method is called.

The optional argument *initial\_bytes* is a [bytes-like object](https://docs.python.org/3/glossary.html#term-bytes-like-object) that contains initial data.

[`BytesIO`](https://docs.python.org/3/library/io.html#io.BytesIO "io.BytesIO") provides or overrides these methods in addition to those from [`BufferedIOBase`](https://docs.python.org/3/library/io.html#io.BufferedIOBase "io.BufferedIOBase") and [`IOBase`](https://docs.python.org/3/library/io.html#io.IOBase "io.IOBase"):

[slate swan]

would it be like request json or text?

I dont get it

[slate swan]

1. make a request to the image url py res = await session.get("url")
2. then read the response

byte_data = await res.read()
``` where `session` is an aiohttp.ClientSession

[keen mural]

.

[slate swan]

try a longer amount instead

[keen mural]

doesnt work

[slate swan]

nice bug

[maiden fable]

@keen mural what's yr discord.py version?

[keen mural]

2.0 (i think(

[slate swan]

ancient

huh? thats latest and not even released

[oak warren]

custom id set ?

and added it in on ready ?

for persistent

[slate swan]

async def setup_hook(self) -> None:
     await self.load_extension(ExampleCog(self))

why does this raise

AttributeError: 'ExampleCog' object has no attribute 'startswith'

[slate swan]

your tried to do self.startswith()

[shrewd apex]

seems like an error in the cog to me

[slate swan]

or used any instance

[slate swan]

where....

[shrewd apex]

in ur cog i suppose...

[slate swan]

the traceback probably says it

youre supposed to pass a string

wdym

oh wait nvm

just ignore

im dying

[shrewd apex]

👍

[slate swan]

the attr error got raised because you passed an object into Bot.load_extension

[slate swan]

yeahh yeah thanks

[wary mist]

&6hi

[dim ruin]

Command not found

Command "6hi" is not found

[slate swan]

imagine handling CommandNotFound errors

[alpine pewter]

@bot.slash_command(guild_ids=guild_ids, description="Get your token!")
async def get_token(interaction : Interaction):
    global nitrado_api_key
    client_guild_name = interaction.guild.name

    reference = db.reference(f"/")
    value = reference.child(client_guild_name).get()
    server_key = value["client_token"]

nitrado_api_key = server_key #Issue Here

bot.run(config.api_key)

If I want to save the last variable server_key as nitrado_api_key in a "global" variable, would this be how or am I misunderstanding what the global means?

[paper sluice]

imagine handling errors...

[maiden fable]

Ngl those and MissingPermissions errors are the most common ones @slate swan

[dusky pine]

if isinstance(error, commands.CommandNotFound):
    return

don't send any embeds or messages

that's just dumb

[paper sluice]

u can't do '/' u need to escape the backslash

so //

[dusky pine]

no, it's \ that you cant do

[paper sluice]

fuck me, im high, yea ill go sleep

[dusky pine]

oh LOL

[alpine pewter]

Uhhh

I'm confused, where would that even go?

[paper sluice]

dont worry about it

[dusky pine]

because you didn't indent that line

[maiden fable]

Why y'all acting like Ashley now

[dusky pine]

@bot.slash_command(guild_ids=guild_ids, description="Get your token!")
async def get_token(interaction : Interaction):
    global nitrado_api_key
    client_guild_name = interaction.guild.name

    reference = db.reference(f"/")
    value = reference.child(client_guild_name).get()
    server_key = value["client_token"]

    nitrado_api_key = server_key #This line should have one indent (which I already did, no need)

[slate swan]

🚶‍♂️ i just pass the commandnotfound and missing permissions ( until its a moderation command)

[alpine pewter]

So, I think I misunderstand the global then.
I'm wondering, how would I use that same variable in another command or is that not possible?

[maiden fable]

Lol

[alpine pewter]

Or, is that actually all I need to do for that

[dusky pine]

you're using global correctly

yes

[alpine pewter]

Okay, let me try it in another, thank you ^^

[slate swan]

use bot vars instead of globals

!botvar

[unkempt canyon]

Python allows you to set custom attributes to most objects, like your bot! By storing things as attributes of the bot object, you can access them anywhere you access your bot. In the discord.py library, these custom attributes are commonly known as "bot variables" and can be a lifesaver if your bot is divided into many different files. An example on how to use custom attributes on your bot is shown below:

bot = commands.Bot(command_prefix="!")
# Set an attribute on our bot
bot.test = "I am accessible everywhere!"

@bot.command()
async def get(ctx: commands.Context):
    """A command to get the current value of `test`."""
    # Send what the test attribute is currently set to
    await ctx.send(ctx.bot.test)

@bot.command()
async def setval(ctx: commands.Context, *, new_text: str):
    """A command to set a new value of `test`."""
    # Here we change the attribute to what was specified in new_text
    bot.test = new_text

This all applies to cogs as well! You can set attributes to self as you wish.

Be sure not to overwrite attributes discord.py uses, like cogs or users. Name your attributes carefully!

[dusky pine]

or just subclass Bot and add your own

i don't like botvars because intellisense 😔

[paper sluice]

shes the only one whos smokes weed ?

[slate swan]

well, it appears for me on autocompletes

[dusky pine]

lmao

luucky 😔

[slate swan]

🚶‍♂️wait, does it not for you? only in cogs maybe right?

[dusky pine]

yeah I use cogs

it doesn't autocomplete self.bot.<botvar>

[slate swan]

typehint your self.bot to your bot class instead of commands.Bot

[dusky pine]

yes i did

talking about botvars

[slate swan]

ah maybe it doesnt work for vanilla initialising of classes

[alpine pewter]

@bot.slash_command(guild_ids=guild_ids, description="Get your token!")
async def get_token(interaction : Interaction):
    global nitrado_api_key
    client_guild_name = interaction.guild.name

    reference = db.reference(f"/")
    value = reference.child(client_guild_name).get()
    server_key = value["client_token"]
    print(server_key)

    nitrado_api_key = server_key

@bot.slash_command(guild_ids=guild_ids)
async def test(interaction : Interaction):
    print(nitrado_api_key)

So, the bottom CMD should work fine then, right?
Figured to ask before I go test 😄

I've never used global

[slate swan]

if you invoke get_token first, and then test, it should work

[alpine pewter]

Got it, that's the goal.
Thank you ^^

[slate swan]

make sure to slide up in the terminal because it may get spammed with an error since you're not creating any response for the test command

[alpine pewter]

Will do, I'm very new to databases and am just trying to get it to work.
Thanks for the help 😄

[nocturne phoenix]

!docs

[unkempt canyon]

All inventories (`42` total)

• networkx
• nextcord
• numpy
• pandas
• pillow
• prompt_toolkit

Page 4/6

[nocturne phoenix]

!numpy

[dusky pine]

!docs numpy

[unkempt canyon]

numpy

Similar names: matplotlib.numpy

[nocturne phoenix]

nvm you need to tap it

[maiden fable]

Uh what

[slate swan]

thanks

[lyric apex]

How to replace (),

[slate swan]

uh?

[lyric apex]

?

[slate swan]

wdym

elaborate

[lyric apex]

I want to remove (

[slate swan]

well

it a tuple

so use

[slate swan]

its a tuple, use the first index

*d, where i'm assuming d is your tuple

yoru

💀

!e ```py
print((1,)[0])

[unkempt canyon]

@slate swan :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.

1

[lyric apex]

Didn't get that

[lyric apex]

Ah yeah

[slate swan]

!e

s = "test",
print(type(s))
print(*s)

[unkempt canyon]

@slate swan :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.

001 | <class 'tuple'>
002 | test

[slate swan]

@lyric apex ^

[lyric apex]

Lemmie try

[slate swan]

if u get it fine.. otherwise go with what sarth suggested, both are fine

💀 man my keybaord wtf

[slate swan]

get better

[lyric apex]

[slate swan]

i am

[slate swan]

you can't compare yourself with yourself better is a comparative term and is used between two unique objects or subjects

me comparing myself with my young self

💀

no comments

[lyric apex]

[slate swan]

you prob did *(type(tuple))

whatever, at least show code along with error

[lyric apex]

I fixed leave it

[slate swan]

....

[lyric apex]

[boreal ravine]

🎉

[robust fulcrum]

Guys how we can take image as input in dpy 2.0?

[alpine pewter]

Would it be possible for someone to click a button and it pulls up a modal? I’m a bit unfamiliar with them. Just thought to ask.

[paper sluice]

ya it is, u just have to change the view

[paper sluice]

like !command url-of-image

[alpine pewter]

I’ll probably go struggle with that tomorrow, thank you.

[robust fulcrum]

I want to use pil to modify image which user send

[paper sluice]

ya it should work then ig

[slate swan]

what library?

its very possible, you just gotta send the Modal as the response to button click

[shrewd apex]

u can use aiohttp to get the image then use bytes io to read after that u can edit with pil

[vital glacier]

If I want to add a new random number to an already existing number in a sql database, how would I do that ( adding the new value to the old one and then updating it into the sql database)?

[shrewd apex]

fetch the old value add the new value then update and commit

[vital glacier]

rn im doing this, but this dont seem to work correctly:

    @commands.command()
    async def random(self, ctx):
        value = random.randint(1, 11)
        newvalue = value + value
        db = sqlite3.connect('astral.db')
        cursor = db.cursor()
        cursor.execute('SELECT value FROM test WHERE user_id = ?', (ctx.author.id,))
        data = cursor.fetchone()
        if not data:
            cursor.execute('INSERT INTO test(value, user_id) VALUES (?, ?)', (value, ctx.author.id))
            await ctx.send(f'added {value} to db. the value in the db is now {data}')
        if data:
            cursor.execute('UPDATE test SET value = ? WHERE user_id = ?', (newvalue, ctx.author.id))
            await ctx.send(f'added {value} to ur old value. value is now set to {data}')
        db.commit()
        cursor.close()
        db.close()

[shrewd apex]

newvalue here is doing value + value which u are updating later

so ur first step should be to fetch the old value and then add value to that

updating newvalue here will only update 2*random.randint(1,11)

so u should be updating data+value

[vital glacier]

ah

[shrewd apex]

also sqlite 3 here is sync while discord commands are asynchronous so this will limit this command to only one person use at one time

[vital glacier]

wdym

[shrewd apex]

multiple people will not be able to use this command

[vital glacier]

they will?

[shrewd apex]

at the same time

[vital glacier]

how do i make it so that they will be able to use the cmds at the same time then

with the sql db

[shrewd apex]

u may not notice now with with few people testing rn and such low usage of db the task just gets over done fast when there are more people it will lag

[shrewd apex]

postgresql aiosqlite

[vital glacier]

aiosqlite?

yeah fair, gotta see how that works then with the whole connecting part

[shrewd apex]

yeah

[vital glacier]

because i tried that before but it was giving me trouble with doing stuff

as in connecting etc, which made no sense

[shrewd apex]

welp u can ask here or #databases if u run into any problems

https://tenor.com/view/de-ad-ch-at-xd-chat-ded-dead-group-chat-ded-dead-gif-23993287

[paper sluice]

:<

[lyric apex]

Can we check an content for ex if that endswith Xyz

[paper sluice]

ya?

just do if message.endswith('Xyz') in ur on_message event

[lyric apex]

That does not work in @paper sluice client wait for event?

[paper sluice]

ya it should?

[loud pulsar]

yo what is ctx?

[lyric apex]

Context for command

[loud pulsar]

k

thx

[robust fulcrum]

@paper sluice if i take
async def filter(self, ctx, filter:str , image):

How can I load the image?

[loud pulsar]

yo do anyone know how can i access a .json file in replit

[lyric apex]

!d open

[unkempt canyon]

open

open(file, mode='r', buffering=- 1, encoding=None, errors=None, newline=None, closefd=True, opener=None)```
Open *file* and return a corresponding [file object](https://docs.python.org/3/glossary.html#term-file-object). If the file cannot be opened, an [`OSError`](https://docs.python.org/3/library/exceptions.html#OSError "OSError") is raised. See [Reading and Writing Files](https://docs.python.org/3/tutorial/inputoutput.html#tut-files) for more examples of how to use this function.

*file* is a [path-like object](https://docs.python.org/3/glossary.html#term-path-like-object) giving the pathname (absolute or relative to the current working directory) of the file to be opened or an integer file descriptor of the file to be wrapped. (If a file descriptor is given, it is closed when the returned I/O object is closed unless *closefd* is set to `False`.)

[lyric apex]

Read

[loud pulsar]

lets see

[maiden fable]

!d json.load

[unkempt canyon]

json.load

json.load(fp, *, cls=None, object_hook=None, parse_float=None, parse_int=None, parse_constant=None, object_pairs_hook=None, **kw)```
Deserialize *fp* (a `.read()`-supporting [text file](https://docs.python.org/3/glossary.html#term-text-file) or [binary file](https://docs.python.org/3/glossary.html#term-binary-file) containing a JSON document) to a Python object using this [conversion table](https://docs.python.org/3/library/json.html#json-to-py-table).

*object\_hook* is an optional function that will be called with the result of any object literal decoded (a [`dict`](https://docs.python.org/3/library/stdtypes.html#dict "dict")). The return value of *object\_hook* will be used instead of the [`dict`](https://docs.python.org/3/library/stdtypes.html#dict "dict"). This feature can be used to implement custom decoders (e.g. [JSON-RPC](http://www.jsonrpc.org) class hinting).

*object\_pairs\_hook* is an optional function that will be called with the result of any object literal decoded with an ordered list of pairs. The return value of *object\_pairs\_hook* will be used instead of the [`dict`](https://docs.python.org/3/library/stdtypes.html#dict "dict"). This feature can be used to implement custom decoders. If *object\_hook* is also defined, the *object\_pairs\_hook* takes priority.

[lyric apex]

with open also work for it?

[loud pulsar]

k

[paper sluice]

https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/how-to-open-an-image-from-the-url-in-pil/

or u can send a request to that url and load it using io.BytesIO

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/7391945/how-do-i-read-image-data-from-a-url-in-python

most of this is blocking, so run it an executor to not block ur bot

[slate swan]

wtf why do this

!d discord.Message.attachments

[unkempt canyon]

discord.Message.attachments

A list of attachments given to a message.

[slate swan]

!d discord.Attachment.read

[unkempt canyon]

discord.Attachment.read

await read(*, use_cached=False)```
This function is a [*coroutine*](https://docs.python.org/3/library/asyncio-task.html#coroutine).

Retrieves the content of this attachment as a [`bytes`](https://docs.python.org/3/library/stdtypes.html#bytes "(in Python v3.10)") object.

New in version 1.1.

[paper sluice]

👀

[maiden fable]

with open(...) as file:
    data = json.loads(file.read())

with open(...) as file:
    data = json.load(file) 

[oblique adder]

Is there any github repo which is using aiomysql and nextcord for discord bot ? I just really need an example so anything is fine. I just couldn't find any

[shrewd apex]

you could find repos which have both examples and combine them to use search for a repo with nextcord and another with aiomysql

[oblique adder]

I know how to use nextcord and aiomysql seperately but idk how to use together

[shrewd apex]

[oblique adder]

It sound dumb right 😂

[shrewd apex]

what do u not know? how to connect?

or which part u need help with

[oblique adder]

like the aiomysql need loop as its args right ? idk what to pass in that

[shrewd apex]

ok have u subclassed ur bot class?

[oblique adder]

no

[shrewd apex]

async def conn():
    pool = await aiomysql.create_pool()
    async with pool.acquire() as conn:
        async with conn.cursor() as cur:
             bot.db = cur

async def main():
    async with bot:
       loop = asyncio.get_event_loop()
       loop.run_until_complete(test_example())
       bot.start(token)
syncio.run(main())

this is how u do in dpy 2.0

[oblique adder]

should be similar to nextcord right ?

[shrewd apex]

now u can access the cursor using bot.db

[shrewd apex]

yeah should be

i havent used aiomysql so there might be a few discrepancies but it should be roughly the same

[oblique adder]

Its ok this should be more than enough for me to continue

thanks

[shrewd apex]

i got the basic aiomysql intro from pypi tho but their docs are showing a bit diffrent usage u can see which one works for you

[vale wing]

async with bot```
the what? Just subclass `commands.Bot` and override `setup_hook` method why even involving asyncio

[tulip matrix]

anyone know to access the discord.py docs and acc find the stuff ur looking for

bc its so confusing

[vale wing]

You mean like !d command?

[oblique adder]

can you show me the other solution ? I didn't understand this

[shrewd apex]

no i asked if he did subclass the bot he said he didnt

[vale wing]

class MyBot(commands.Bot):
    async def setup_hook(self):
        ...  # do setup stuff here

bot = MyBot(...)
...
bot.run(token)```

[vale wing]

Oh ok

[shrewd apex]

[vale wing]

Still wtf is async with bot

[shrewd apex]

[vale wing]

@tulip matrix

!d help

[tulip matrix]

ah ok

[vale wing]

No I didn't mean use help builtin lmao

You actually need to make API requests to readthedocs

[paper sluice]

to use bot.start u need that

u can do other initlization stuff under that

[vale wing]

Ok

Didn't know it has aenter

[maiden fable]

U do know this isn't a general chat channel or smth and those GIFs suit better in general chats, right? (No offense meant)

[shrewd apex]

none taken

[maiden fable]

Thanks for understanding

[slate swan]

my bot doesn't respond to any commands

no errors either

it runs bit it doesn't respond

@vale wing hmu if u can help

[vale wing]

Does it have message content intent on

And messages intent at all

[maiden fable]

ngl message content intent is a pain and now literally every person who is not well versed with the new discord api changes is gonna have the same. fucking. problem.

[vale wing]

Yes I gotta rewrite a huge bot to slash commands 🥲

I tried to scam discord for message content intent but failed

[maiden fable]

Not me, I already got access to those and members intent

[maiden fable]

Lmao how

[vale wing]

If I find the conversation I will show you

[slate swan]

how do i do that

[oblique adder]

return future.result()
File "E:\first\main.py", line 58, in main
async with bot:
AttributeError: aenter

[vale wing]

Ok then subclass it as I showed

[maiden fable]

"Blizzard Blizzara Blizzaga!"

[vale wing]

Ikr

[maiden fable]

What use case did u specify

[visual island]

Nextcord doesn't implement this

[woven bane]

How do i stop replit from auto updating my modules?or is this something beyond the scope of the channel?

[maiden fable]

Hi there icy Cirno

[visual island]

Hi hunter

[paper sluice]

ya this channel isn't really related to replit

[woven bane]

Oh ok

[robust fulcrum]

How can we send dm in dpy 2.0?

[maiden fable]

!d discord.Member.send

[unkempt canyon]

discord.Member.send

await send(content=None, *, tts=False, embed=None, embeds=None, file=None, files=None, stickers=None, delete_after=None, nonce=None, allowed_mentions=None, reference=None, ...)```
This function is a [*coroutine*](https://docs.python.org/3/library/asyncio-task.html#coroutine).

Sends a message to the destination with the content given.

The content must be a type that can convert to a string through `str(content)`. If the content is set to `None` (the default), then the `embed` parameter must be provided.

To upload a single file, the `file` parameter should be used with a single [`File`](https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/latest/api.html#discord.File "discord.File") object. To upload multiple files, the `files` parameter should be used with a [`list`](https://docs.python.org/3/library/stdtypes.html#list "(in Python v3.10)") of [`File`](https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/latest/api.html#discord.File "discord.File") objects. **Specifying both parameters will lead to an exception**.

To upload a single embed, the `embed` parameter should be used with a single [`Embed`](https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/latest/api.html#discord.Embed "discord.Embed") object. To upload multiple embeds, the `embeds` parameter should be used with a [`list`](https://docs.python.org/3/library/stdtypes.html#list "(in Python v3.10)") of [`Embed`](https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/latest/api.html#discord.Embed "discord.Embed") objects. **Specifying both parameters will lead to an exception**.

[robust fulcrum]

Do i need to define member ig?

[maiden fable]

ic still wasting spending money on Nitro huh

[maiden fable]

!d discord.Guild.get_member

[unkempt canyon]

discord.Guild.get\_member

get_member(user_id, /)```
Returns a member with the given ID.

Changed in version 2.0: `user_id` parameter is now positional-only.

[visual island]

IDK, I really like the emojis

[maiden fable]

Lmao seems like u only changed yr name

[visual island]

[maiden fable]

Yea I was right

[slate swan]

@vale wing can u dm me how to do that intents

[oblique adder]

async def conn(loop):
    pool = await aiomysql.create_pool(host='127.0.0.1', port=3306,
                                      user='root', password='',
                                      db='react', loop=loop)
    async with pool.acquire() as conn:
        async with conn.cursor() as cur:
            React.db = cur

class MyBot(commands.Bot):
    async def setup_hook(self):
        loop = get_event_loop()
        loop.run_until_complete(conn(loop))
      
bot = MyBot(
    command_prefix=config.Bot_prefix,
    case_insensitive=True,
    help_command=None,
    intents=intent,
    strip_after_prefix=True,
)
...
bot.run(token)``` like this ?

[paper sluice]

just do this

intents = discord.Intents.default()
intents.message_content = True
bot = commands.Bot(..., intents=intents)

[robust fulcrum]

import discord
from discord.ext import commands
import asyncio

class Select(discord.ui.Select):
    def __init__(self):
        options=[
            discord.SelectOption(label="Send!",emoji="✍🏻",description="Send the suggestion!"),
            discord.SelectOption(label="Cancel!",emoji="❌",description="Cancel the suggestion!")
            ]
        super().__init__(placeholder="Select an option",max_values=1,min_values=1,options=options)
    async def callback(self, interaction: discord.Interaction):
        if self.values[0] == "Send!":
            await interaction.response.send_message(content="successfully sent!",ephemeral=True)

class SelectView(discord.ui.View):
    def __init__(self, *, timeout = 180):
        super().__init__(timeout=timeout)
        self.add_item(Select())

class suggest(commands.Cog):
    def __init__(self, bot):
        self.bot = bot
        
    @commands.command()
    async def dm(self, ctx,user:discord.Member = None ):
        def check(msg):
            return msg.author.id == ctx.author.id and msg.channel.id == ctx.channel.id
        await ctx.send("**Send the message you want to send **",delete_after=5)
        mes = await self.bot.wait_for('message', check=check,timeout=20)
        mes = (mes.content)
        await ctx.send(f"This is your message:**{mes}** -\/ select the option below", view=SelectView(),delete_after=5)
        


async def setup(bot):
	await bot.add_cog(suggest(bot))

I made a command to send a dm
I want that when someone select send option from dropdown it sends dm
So where I have to put bot.send_message()?

[slate swan]

How

[robust fulcrum]

No

[paper sluice]

which library r u using?

[slate swan]

discord.py-self

[robust fulcrum]

I said by mistake

Sorry

[maiden fable]

We don't help with that here sorry

[robust fulcrum]

Can anyone help me with this

[slate swan]

switch dms?

[paper sluice]

!rule 5 self bots are against tos

[unkempt canyon]

Rules

5. Do not provide or request help on projects that may break laws, breach terms of services, or are malicious or inappropriate.

[slate swan]

i don't care

[robust fulcrum]

See it's documentation ;-;

[slate swan]

its the same docs with discord.py its a fork

[maiden fable]

Let's not talk about the lib here please, thanks

[slate swan]

its literally discord.py

[robust fulcrum]

I never heard of it ;-; use discord.py simple

[maiden fable]

What the

[slate swan]

discord.py-self is a fork of discord.py

[robust fulcrum]

I would recommend dpy or pycord

[maiden fable]

If it is, why not use discord.py itself then?

[slate swan]

BRO ITS THE SAME SOURCE, ITS JUST A FORK THAT ALLOWS TO LOG INTO USER TOKENS

[robust fulcrum]

Ik it's fork but do that

[robust fulcrum]

Go and ask in their support server don't mess up here

[maiden fable]

<@&831776746206265384> might be able to help us with the situation here

[west escarp]

Take a deep breath, please

[visual island]

However, a number of things have been removed. For example:

Intents: While the gateway technically accepts Intents for user accounts (and even modifies payloads to be a little more like bot payloads), it leads to breakage. Additionally, it’s a giant waving red flag to Discord.

Shards: Again, technically accepted but useless.

discord.ui: Users cannot send items from the bot UI kit.

discord.app_commands: Users cannot register application commands.

From the docs

[robust fulcrum]

😶

[oblique adder]

if anyone know please ping me

[robust fulcrum]

import discord
from discord.ext import commands
import asyncio

class Select(discord.ui.Select):
    def __init__(self):
        options=[
            discord.SelectOption(label="Send!",emoji="✍🏻",description="Send the suggestion!"),
            discord.SelectOption(label="Cancel!",emoji="❌",description="Cancel the suggestion!")
            ]
        super().__init__(placeholder="Select an option",max_values=1,min_values=1,options=options)
    async def callback(self, interaction: discord.Interaction):
        if self.values[0] == "Send!":
            await interaction.response.send_message(content="successfully sent!",ephemeral=True)

class SelectView(discord.ui.View):
    def __init__(self, *, timeout = 180):
        super().__init__(timeout=timeout)
        self.add_item(Select())

class suggest(commands.Cog):
    def __init__(self, bot):
        self.bot = bot
        
    @commands.command()
    async def dm(self, ctx,user:discord.Member = None ):
        def check(msg):
            return msg.author.id == ctx.author.id and msg.channel.id == ctx.channel.id
        await ctx.send("**Send the message you want to send **",delete_after=5)
        mes = await self.bot.wait_for('message', check=check,timeout=20)
        mes = (mes.content)
        await ctx.send(f"This is your message:**{mes}** -\/ select the option below", view=SelectView(),delete_after=5)
        


async def setup(bot):
	await bot.add_cog(suggest(bot))

I made a command to send a dm
I want that when someone select send option from dropdown it sends dm
So where I have to put bot.send_message()?

[west escarp]

Discord.py-self is a self botting library, and we don't permit help with self-bots here

[robust fulcrum]

Yes :-()

[slate swan]

shutup dude

stop talkin 2 me

[west escarp]

!mute 485776789277507585

[unkempt canyon]

:incoming_envelope: :ok_hand: applied mute to @slate swan until <t:1654259218:f> (59 minutes and 59 seconds).

[robust fulcrum]

Bruh ;-; talk properly

[visual island]

Hmm, I wonder why some people are like that

[robust fulcrum]

Ye they don't have control on them

Can I say something pls

I have something to show ........

See what that guy doing with me

[west escarp]

!ban 485776789277507585 nazi references, discord selfbotting, and for completion's sake, blatant disrespect of staff and harassment of other users

[unkempt canyon]

:incoming_envelope: :ok_hand: applied ban to @real geode permanently.

[maiden fable]

Thanks Bast

Hi there brad

[robust fulcrum]

Don't even know how to talk ;-!

[velvet compass]

Send this to @novel apex next time btw 👍

[robust fulcrum]

K sorry

[robust fulcrum]

Anyway anyone help if possible

[maiden fable]

wym bot.send_message?

[robust fulcrum]

I got this from stackoverflow

[paper sluice]

do interaction.user.send in the callback

[west escarp]

Unfortunately it's very outdated

[maiden fable]

Please don't copy from stack, especially dpy since most of the answers there are from the async version

[west escarp]

dpy changed itself.. 4 times now..?

[maiden fable]

Isn't this the 3rd time?

[west escarp]

And there's outdated code from all four versions out there, and stackoverflow is honestly terrible about updated questions

[maiden fable]

Pre v1
v1
v2

[robust fulcrum]

But i have a variable called {mes} in my command at below of the class so will the variable work?

[maiden fable]

Idk I started dpy when it was on idk, 1.5 or smth? (2 years ago)

[visual island]

async -> rewrite -> v2 I guess

[west escarp]

did they call it v1 when it became async?

[robust fulcrum]

I started at 2.0 ;-;

[maiden fable]

Yea this is the correct one

[west escarp]

Because there was a sync version before that

[maiden fable]

Wait u mean no asyncio?

[west escarp]

yes

[maiden fable]

Literal sync methods?

[west escarp]

yep

[robust fulcrum]

Sed

[maiden fable]

Damn, that's.....

[visual island]

How did they handle events..

[west escarp]

Syncly

[maiden fable]

Lmao imagine if 2 people run a command at the same time

[robust fulcrum]

Hmm is dpy maintained these day?

[paper sluice]

use the discord.ui.select decorator, its much easier to work with

[west escarp]

The maintainer is back and currently maintaining it, so yes

[robust fulcrum]

In callback?

Actually I never used this decorator

[maiden fable]

!d discord.ui.select

[unkempt canyon]

discord.ui.select

discord.ui.select(*, placeholder=None, custom_id=..., min_values=1, max_values=1, options=..., disabled=False, row=None)```
A decorator that attaches a select menu to a component.

The function being decorated should have three parameters, `self` representing the [`discord.ui.View`](https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/latest/interactions/api.html#discord.ui.View "discord.ui.View"), the [`discord.Interaction`](https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/latest/interactions/api.html#discord.Interaction "discord.Interaction") you receive and the [`discord.ui.Select`](https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/latest/interactions/api.html#discord.ui.Select "discord.ui.Select") being used.

In order to get the selected items that the user has chosen within the callback use [`Select.values`](https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/latest/interactions/api.html#discord.ui.Select.values "discord.ui.Select.values").

[robust fulcrum]

Ig writing something big

[maiden fable]

Good thing the deco also exists

[paper sluice]

no the way to use it is

class MYSelectOption(discord.ui.View):
      def __init__(...):
          ...
          super().__init__(...)
      
      @discord.ui.select(placeholder=..., options=[discord.SelectOption(...), ...])
      async def callback(self, interaction: discord.Interaction, select: discord.ui.Select) -> None:
          # now do what u want here

[robust fulcrum]

Oh means i remove the callback from the class and make that you sent here?

[paper sluice]

ya, u dont need the Select class u made earlier, a subclass of discord.ui.View is enough here

[visual island]

https://github.com/Rapptz/discord.py/tree/794991adb6bfa6d66b2b977b1d2a6dcb639398d0 wow, the sync dpy version is quite interesting

[maiden fable]

Oh u found it

what in the

[paper sluice]

794991a
on Aug 22, 2015
Git stats
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[maiden fable]

Lmao best source code ever tbh
THE most easiest and non confusing

[robust fulcrum]

Whats this

[maiden fable]

Dpy in 2015

[visual island]

That's neat

[robust fulcrum]

Lol

[maiden fable]

Lol the server class

[robust fulcrum]

Guys is it possible to make our own api?

[maiden fable]

Ofc
Gonna be a fun experience if u know what u r doing

[robust fulcrum]

Can I put emoji in option?

[paper sluice]

yes

!d discord.SelectOption

[unkempt canyon]

discord.SelectOption

class discord.SelectOption(*, label, value=..., description=None, emoji=None, default=False)```
Represents a select menu’s option.

These can be created by users.

New in version 2.0.

[robust fulcrum]

How will the emoji look in @discord.ui.select

[paper sluice]

u put that in the SelectOption

[paper sluice]

^^

[robust fulcrum]

Oh

I think i did something wrong

[paper sluice]

that list of SelectOptions will be all the options in ur select menu

[robust fulcrum]

@discord.ui.select(placeholder="select an option", options=[discord.SelectOption("send","cancel"), ])
      async def callback(self, interaction: discord.Interaction, select: discord.ui.Select) -> None:

I did this

Is it wrong?

[paper sluice]

yes

[robust fulcrum]

Do i need to make 2?

Like 1 for 1 option

[paper sluice]

ur supposed to do label='...', value='...' they are keyword only args

[paper sluice]

yes

[slate swan]

How do events work in dpy

[robust fulcrum]

Oof means i did wrong

[paper sluice]

https://github.com/Rapptz/discord.py/blob/master/examples/views/dropdown.py#L14-L19
there is an example

[unkempt canyon]

examples/views/dropdown.py lines 14 to 19

# Set the options that will be presented inside the dropdown
options = [
    discord.SelectOption(label='Red', description='Your favourite colour is red', emoji='🟥'),
    discord.SelectOption(label='Green', description='Your favourite colour is green', emoji='🟩'),
    discord.SelectOption(label='Blue', description='Your favourite colour is blue', emoji='🟦'),
]```

[lyric apex]

This error stops my loop how to fix that

[paper sluice]

just format ur options like so in the decorator

[robust fulcrum]

@paper sluice

@bot.event
async def on_ready():
    bot.add_view(MyView()) # Registers a View for persistent listening

class MyView(discord.ui.View):
    def __init__(self):
        super().__init__(timeout=None) # timeout of the view must be set to None

    @discord.ui.select(custom_id="select-1", options = [...]) # a custom_id must be set
    async def select_callback(self, select, callback):
        ...

@bot.command()
async def button(ctx):
    await ctx.send(f"View persistence status: {MyView.is_persistent(MyView())}", view=MyView())

You mean this :)

I found it on pycord docs

[robust fulcrum]

Show code?

[paper sluice]

ya something like that, if ur using discord.py instead of select_callback(self, select, callback) its select_callback(self, interaction, select)

[robust fulcrum]

Oh k

[lyric apex]

Do I Have To Return The Error?

[paper sluice]

cats

[lyric apex]

Cats Are Love

@robust fulcrum what happened

[robust fulcrum]

@paper sluice

    @discord.ui.select(custom_id="select-1", options = ["send!"],emoji="❤️") 
    async def select_callback(self, select, callback):

This fine?

[paper sluice]

@robust fulcrum ur options should look like this

[robust fulcrum]

Ah my mind breaking from thus decorator

[robust fulcrum]

Means option and emojis are to be in class?

And this decorator out of class

[paper sluice]

option is just a list, inside it are SelectOptions

and u put the label, emojis etc in those selectoption

ur using pycord?

[robust fulcrum]

No

I gtg Bai I'll do it lator

[slate swan]

can some on help me

some one?

[drifting arrow]

@slate swan what do you need help with?

[slate swan]

`import discord
import random

TOKEN = 'no'

client = discord.Client()

@client.event
async def on_ready():
print('We have logged in as {0.user}'.format(client))

@client.event
async def on_message(message):
username = str(message.author).split('#')[0]
user_message = str(message.content)
channel = str(message.channel.name)
print(f'{username}: {user_message} ({channel})')

if message.author == client.user:
return
if message.channel.name == 'general-wont-work':
if user_message.lower() == 'hello'
await message.channel.send(f'Hello {username}!')
return
elif username_message.lower() == 'bye'
await message.channel.send(f'Hello {username}!')
return
elif user_message

client.run(TOKEN)`

[drifting arrow]

please use three `

!code

[unkempt canyon]

Here's how to format Python code on Discord:

```py
print('Hello world!')
```

These are backticks, not quotes. Check this out if you can't find the backtick key.

[slate swan]

ohh

import random

TOKEN = 'no'

client = discord.Client()


@client.event
async def on_ready():
    print('We have logged in as {0.user}'.format(client))


@client.event
async def on_message(message):
  username = str(message.author).split('#')[0]
  user_message = str(message.content)
   channel = str(message.channel.name)
   print(f'{username}: {user_message} ({channel})')


   if message.author == client.user:
       return
    if message.channel.name == 'general-wont-work':
         if user_message.lower() == 'hello'
             await message.channel.send(f'Hello {username}!')
             return
           elif username_message.lower() == 'bye'
        await message.channel.send(f'Hello {username}!')
             return
     elif user_message



client.run(TOKEN)```

[drifting arrow]

so whats the issue?

[slate swan]

it wont work

its showing errors

@drifting arrow

[drifting arrow]

your indents are wrong

[slate swan]

how

i dont get indents

can you fix it for me?

[slate swan]

!code

[unkempt canyon]

Here's how to format Python code on Discord:

```py
print('Hello world!')
```

These are backticks, not quotes. Check this out if you can't find the backtick key.

[drifting arrow]

No. You need to understand indentation better.

[slate swan]

how

[slate swan]

Also don't use discord.Clent use commands.Bot

[slate swan]

ohh

let me try

from discord.ext import commands

like this u import

ok

can you fix it for me

[drifting arrow]

@slate swan 😄 no.

[slate swan]

I don't really suggest copying code

@slate swan do u have any python knowledge

[drifting arrow]

Anyway. back to why I came here to begin with. Is there a way to tell if a message content is just a file?

[slate swan]

yes

[slate swan]

i did not

im new its my first month

[slate swan]

Then why are u using discord.Client

idk

[slate swan]

What do i use then?

from discord.ext import commands
bot = commands.Bot()

!d discord.ext.commands.Bot

[unkempt canyon]

discord.ext.commands.Bot

class discord.ext.commands.Bot(command_prefix, *, help_command=<default-help-command>, tree_cls=<class 'discord.app_commands.tree.CommandTree'>, description=None, intents, **options)```
Represents a discord bot.

This class is a subclass of [`discord.Client`](https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/latest/api.html#discord.Client "discord.Client") and as a result anything that you can do with a [`discord.Client`](https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/latest/api.html#discord.Client "discord.Client") you can do with this bot.

This class also subclasses [`GroupMixin`](https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/latest/ext/commands/api.html#discord.ext.commands.GroupMixin "discord.ext.commands.GroupMixin") to provide the functionality to manage commands.

Unlike [`discord.Client`](https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/latest/api.html#discord.Client "discord.Client"), This class does not require manually setting a [`CommandTree`](https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/latest/interactions/api.html#discord.app_commands.CommandTree "discord.app_commands.CommandTree") and is automatically set upon instantiating the class.

[vital glacier]

How do I get guild banners and member banners?
I am doing this rn but it doesn't work:

    @commands.command(name='guildbanner', description='view a guilds banner', usage='guildbanner (guild id)', aliases=['gb', 'serverbanner', 'sb'])
    async def guildbanner(self, ctx):
        if ctx.guild.banner is None:
            e = discord.Embed(
                description=f'{ctx.author.mention}: {ctx.guild.name} doesn\'t have a **banner**',
                color=0xf8a424
            )
            await ctx.send(embed=e)
        else:
            await ctx.send(f'**{ctx.guild.name}\'s banner**\n'
                           f'{ctx.guild.banner.url}')

    @commands.command(name='banner', description='view the banner of a user', usage='banner (user)')
    async def banner(self, ctx, member: discord.Member = None):
        member = ctx.author if member is None else member
        if member.banner is None:
            e = discord.Embed(
                description=f'{ctx.author.mention}: {member.mention} doesn\'t have a **banner**',
                color=0xf8a424
            )
            await ctx.send(embed=e)
        else:
            await ctx.send(f'**{member}\'s banner**\n'
                           f'{member.banner.url}')

[scarlet aurora]

dm me i can help u

[slate swan]

Error?

[vital glacier]

no error

it's giving me the Embed, let me see if i can print the error

[slate swan]

btw u can simply do member = member or ctx.author

[vital glacier]

oh lol

[slate swan]

Ye

[vital glacier]

nah i cant print the error

it's not letting me

[slate swan]

u sure it's d 2.0

[vital glacier]

mhm

im 100% sure

[slate swan]

Ash will help u

[vital glacier]

LOL

[slate swan]

peek-a-boo

[vital glacier]

hi ashley

[slate swan]

hi north

[vital glacier]

can u help me perhaps

[vital glacier]

. (no errors, cant seem to print them out either)

[slate swan]

do you have the members intent enabled?

[vital glacier]

yeah

because all my other member commands work too

it's just the banner ones that don't work

[drifting arrow]

How can I get my bot to open a file sent in chat?

[slate swan]

do you have a error handler?

[vital glacier]

yes i do, and that one isn't printing anything

[slate swan]

access them using the attachments property on the Message object, this will return a list of File objects

[drifting arrow]

i've tried that lol

[slate swan]

can i see it?

[drifting arrow]

 # Listens for any errors and displays them to the user.
    @commands.Cog.listener()
    async def on_message(self, message):
        if not message.author.bot:
            message_channel = message.channel
            if message.attachments:
                await message_channel.send('Theres an attachment!')
                message_attachment = message.attachments
                print(message_attachment)
                for attachment in message_attachment:
                    if 'vdf' in attachment.filename:
                        myvdf = vdf.load(open(attachment.file))
                        print(myvdf)

[vital glacier]

    @commands.Cog.listener()
    async def on_command_error(self, ctx, error):
        ignored = (commands.CommandNotFound, commands.UserInputError)
        if isinstance(error, ignored):
            print(error)

        if isinstance(error, commands.CommandOnCooldown):
            m, s = divmod(error.retry_after, 60)
            h, m = divmod(m, 60)
            if int(h) == 0 and int(m) == 0:
                await ctx.send(
                    f' {ctx.author.mention}, you must wait **{int(s)}** seconds to use the **{ctx.invoked_with}** command!')
            elif int(h) == 0 and int(m) != 0:
                await ctx.send(
                    f' {ctx.author.mention}, you must wait **{int(m)} minutes** and **{int(s)} seconds** to use the **{ctx.invoked_with}** command!')
            else:
                await ctx.send(
                    f' {ctx.author.mention}, you must wait {int(h)} hours, {int(m)} minutes and {int(s)} seconds to use the **{ctx.invoked_with}** command!')
        elif isinstance(error, commands.MissingPermissions):
            missing = [perm.replace('_', ' ').replace('guild', 'server').title() for perm in error.missing_permissions]
            if len(missing) > 2:
                fmt = '{}, {}'.format(", ".join(missing[:-1]), missing[-1].lower())
            else:
                fmt = ' and '.join(missing)
            _message = '{}: **{}** requires the `{}` permissions'.format(ctx.author.mention, ctx.invoked_with,
                                                                         fmt.lower())
            e = discord.Embed(
                description=f'{_message}',
                color=0xf8a424
            )
            await ctx.send(embed=e)
        print(error)

[slate swan]

try print(member.banner)

[vital glacier]

still need to make it better tho

[slate swan]

so we can see

What's the error

[slate swan]

raise the error instead of printing

[vital glacier]

i did return error before

but that also didnt give me anything

[slate swan]

and the indents are messed up ig

[vital glacier]

https://tokyotokyotokyotokyo.tokyo/​‌‌​​​​‌​‌‌​​​‌​​‌‌‌‌​​​​‌​​​‌‌​​‌​​‌​​​​‌​‌​‌‌​​​‌‌​​‌​​‌​​‌​‌‌

this is what the error is giving me when i try to print member.banner.url

[slate swan]

um banner

is None

[vital glacier]

which is true because i dont have a member

banner*

But now I tried it with someone with a banner, and it gave me the same thing

[slate swan]

the member doesnt have a banner

weird

because, you are running ctx.author.banner

[vital glacier]

The member I mentioned the second time, it did work

[vital glacier]

i am not tho

i even changed member = ... to member = member or ctx.author

[slate swan]

wheres the code uhh

[vital glacier]

Oh wait, is it cus i did member: discord.Member = None?

[slate swan]

no

[vital glacier]

huh

[slate swan]

code

[vital glacier]

.

This you mean?

or my current code of what im tryna do now>

    @commands.command(name='banner', description='view the banner of a user', usage='banner (user)')
    async def banner(self, ctx, member: discord.Member = None):
        member = member or ctx.author
        print(member.banner.url)

[slate swan]

weird

[vital glacier]

yeah

that's what i mean

[slate swan]

it should work since members intent is enabled too

[vital glacier]

Yeah, and the person I mentioned with a banner even gave me the same error

[visual island]

banner attribute is only available with fetch methods. This is written in the docs.

[vital glacier]

and how do i fetch it?

[visual island]

ctx.guild.fetch_member(ID) or bot.fetch_user(ID), you can use the id from member.id

[vital glacier]

but how do i even get the banner from that

[visual island]

These 2 methods will return a Member object, you can then use the banner attribute

[vital glacier]

Ah

alright, let me check it out

[drifting arrow]

b'"users"\n{\n\t"76561198425649012"\n\t{\n\t\t"AccountName"\t\t"robertmarius8"\n\t\t"PersonaName"\t\t"bob"\n\t\t"RememberPassword"\t\t"1"\n\t\t"WantsOfflineMode"\t\t"0"\n\t\t"SkipOfflineModeWarning"\t\t"0"\n\t\t"AllowAutoLogin"\t\t"1"\n\t\t"MostRecent"\t\t"1"\n\t\t"Timestamp"\t\t"1654036305"\n\t}\n}\n'

When I open a vdf file that I sent as attachment and print it, this is what I get.. How do I clean it up and make it more readable?

if 'vdf' in attachment.filename:
                        attachment_url = attachment.url
                        file_request = requests.get(attachment_url)
                        data = file_request.content
                        await message.channel.send(data)
                        print(data)

[maiden fable]

What's this

!pypi vdf @drifting arrow

[unkempt canyon]

vdf v3.4

Library for working with Valve's VDF text format

[maiden fable]

Also, use aiohttp not requests

[visual island]

I guess you can just .decode("utf-8") it to cast it to string rather than in bytes form

[drifting arrow]

im trying to use that but it's not working

[strange vessel]

async def on_member_join(member):
  guild = client.get_guild(980542229015830568)
  channel = guild.get_channel(980542229015830568)
  await channel.send('Welcome to the server {member.mention}! Be sure to regulate with rules and verify.') # Welcome the member on the server ````

How come this simple welcome doesnt work with no error and i did enable the intent

[drifting arrow]

this worked \o/

[maiden fable]

Ngl, I wish there was a way Python allowed us to make a sync and an async function of the same name in the same namespace, which would do different things based on whether it was awaited or not

get_member -> Get from cache
await get_member -> Fetch from API

Would be fun ngl

[visual island]

Oh, that's a great idea

[dawn shard]

fetch_member & get_member 💀

[maiden fable]

Ik ik

U didn't understand me

[visual island]

I think we can make an Awaitable class and mess with __await__, then we decorate the target function with a decorator which make the function Awaitable instance

[maiden fable]

I don't really know tbh

Or idk mess with the builtins module?

[visual island]

I'll try something

[maiden fable]

Cool

[boreal ravine]

Do you have a global error handler?

[dull river]

@worn lintel

[slate swan]

channel/guild is probably returning None

[visual island]

The problem is that doing await foo() calls foo.__call__(), so we will never know if it's awaited

[maiden fable]

And if my thought has to be implemented, the change should happen in the Python's core, not on the frontend

[visual island]

This is my best approach, to call the sync func, you need to call it twice

[pliant gulch]

It’s pretty easy, if a coroutine isn’t awaited it’ll warn you with a RuntimeWarning

You can just catch it and then that’ll let you know it wasn’t awaited

!d warnings.catch_warnings

[unkempt canyon]

warnings.catch\_warnings

class warnings.catch_warnings(*, record=False, module=None)```
A context manager that copies and, upon exit, restores the warnings filter and the [`showwarning()`](https://docs.python.org/3/library/warnings.html#warnings.showwarning "warnings.showwarning") function. If the *record* argument is [`False`](https://docs.python.org/3/library/constants.html#False "False") (the default) the context manager returns [`None`](https://docs.python.org/3/library/constants.html#None "None") on entry. If *record* is [`True`](https://docs.python.org/3/library/constants.html#True "True"), a list is returned that is progressively populated with objects as seen by a custom [`showwarning()`](https://docs.python.org/3/library/warnings.html#warnings.showwarning "warnings.showwarning") function (which also suppresses output to `sys.stdout`). Each object in the list has attributes with the same names as the arguments to [`showwarning()`](https://docs.python.org/3/library/warnings.html#warnings.showwarning "warnings.showwarning").

The *module* argument takes a module that will be used instead of the module returned when you import [`warnings`](https://docs.python.org/3/library/warnings.html#module-warnings "warnings: Issue warning messages and control their disposition.") whose filter will be protected. This argument exists primarily for testing the [`warnings`](https://docs.python.org/3/library/warnings.html#module-warnings "warnings: Issue warning messages and control their disposition.") module itself.

[slate swan]

andy smort

[tacit token]

Hi anybody have any idea how can i make this timer? X minutes X seconds ago.

[visual island]

But then, it should be done at the user side?

[strange vessel]

idk what that is

[lyric apex]

Make the event and just substract datetime.datetime.utcnow() - the user joined time

[maiden fable]

Yup

[maiden fable]

Like u gotta implement them manually in the lib. But the issue is, where to catch the warning and how to get the function name

[keen mural]

Can someone link me to the docs where i can get all the info about a member

[lyric apex]

!d discord.Member

[unkempt canyon]

discord.Member

class discord.Member```
Represents a Discord member to a [`Guild`](https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/latest/api.html#discord.Guild "discord.Guild").

This implements a lot of the functionality of [`User`](https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/latest/api.html#discord.User "discord.User").

x == y Checks if two members are equal. Note that this works with [`User`](https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/latest/api.html#discord.User "discord.User") instances too.

x != y Checks if two members are not equal. Note that this works with [`User`](https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/latest/api.html#discord.User "discord.User") instances too.

hash(x) Returns the member’s hash.

str(x) Returns the member’s name with the discriminator.

[lyric apex]

This?

[keen mural]

Thanks

[vale wing]

Interesting

Lemme dive into asyncio docs

[heady sluice]

I don't like it

some people would put await randomly and be making API calls accidentally

[vale wing]

Yes might be confusing

Since we can consider it a kind of overload

Overloads are not "native" for python

[visual island]

@maiden fable https://paste.pythondiscord.com/utaguyagij.py kinda stuck here, I can't make so that we should call the function upon awaiting

[vale wing]

Look at this sussy cringe idea

async def async_sussy_func(id: int, /):
    return await some_async_func_to_get_obj(id)

def sussy_func(id: int, /):
    obj = get_stuff(id)
    return async_sussy_func(), obj

# somewhere in async code
coro, obj = sussy_func()
if obj is None:
    obj = await coro```
Very cringe and pointless you could just make a function async

Ima look into asyncio source

[edgy jetty]

!voiceverify

[pliant gulch]

Sure, but you could make it work easily on the library side

It’s pretty easy to override the warning message class, hook the call getting the source, which is the coroutine. Then continuing from there

[slate swan]

#voice-verification

[maiden fable]

Ouh, gonna look into that once I get on my PC

[robust fulcrum]

How to add reaction in dpy 2.0?

Use pil

Means you want paste a png to picture?

[visual island]

Hmm, I'm not sure I understand what you mean, "hook the __call__ getting the source"?

[pliant gulch]

You’ll have to wait for me to get on my laptop, the process itself is easy enough to understand though once you see it

[slate swan]

upload it?

[slate swan]

!d discord.Message.add_reaction

[unkempt canyon]

discord.Message.add\_reaction

await add_reaction(emoji, /)```
This function is a [*coroutine*](https://docs.python.org/3/library/asyncio-task.html#coroutine).

Adds a reaction to the message.

The emoji may be a unicode emoji or a custom guild [`Emoji`](https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/latest/api.html#discord.Emoji "discord.Emoji").

You must have the [`read_message_history`](https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/latest/api.html#discord.Permissions.read_message_history "discord.Permissions.read_message_history") permission to use this. If nobody else has reacted to the message using this emoji, the [`add_reactions`](https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/latest/api.html#discord.Permissions.add_reactions "discord.Permissions.add_reactions") permission is required.

Changed in version 2.0: `emoji` parameter is now positional-only.

Changed in version 2.0: This function will now raise [`TypeError`](https://docs.python.org/3/library/exceptions.html#TypeError "(in Python v3.10)") instead of `InvalidArgument`.

[lyric apex]

@slate swan Could You Help me how to fix that error my loop stops when the message i fetch is deleted

[slate swan]

just handle the NotFound exception in your error handler

[lyric apex]

return it back?

[slate swan]

uh?

[lyric apex]

Like if the error happens i return that error?

[maiden fable]

Can u print msg[0] once?

[slate swan]

nvm, hunter's gonna help

[lyric apex]

Ahh it is totally working when the message is present Wait i show

[vale wing]

Replit?

[lyric apex]

Lol

[maiden fable]

Don't expect me to stick around much

[vale wing]

Is that a yes

[slate swan]

I don't even know what I've been saying from the past day, you're still better

[lyric apex]

Why are you considering the error with replit and yeah i dont use that

[vale wing]

Ya got a good editor

[maiden fable]

Invisible chars

[vale wing]

Nah I am just making social survey about replit users

Trying to figure out why tf they use it

Sorry for bothering

[lyric apex]

[vale wing]

What code editor is this anyway

[lyric apex]

Thats the code

[vale wing]

Not the full traceback

[lyric apex]

He said me to print that msg[0]

[vale wing]

Ah

[lyric apex]

Not the error

[vale wing]

Man sorry I am annoying

[lyric apex]

Np Go Through the code i am getting a problem like my loop is working fine if the message is present but sometimes the user deletes it so how to avoid it

[maiden fable]

What u even tryna do bro

[lyric apex]

I am checking the db with the loop

[vale wing]

Why not use async wrapper

[lyric apex]

This is what the output when message exists

[lyric apex]

?

[vale wing]

You have sqlite? Switch to aiosqlite

[lyric apex]

[maiden fable]

@visual island so in the class u r accepting two funcs, one which can be called normally and one which can be called asynchronously?

[vale wing]

psycopg2 -> asyncpg

[lyric apex]

[visual island]

It doesn't matter actually, it uses inspect.iscoroutinefunction() do determine the async and sync func

[maiden fable]

Yea I was also seeing that

What the, builtins module doesn't have an Awaitable or Coro class

Prolly andy was right, gotta mess with the warnings module

But the main issue would be, how to catch the warnings during runtime since there is no function (in discord.py or any other lib) which is invoked whenever a new request is done

[jaunty venture]

how can i set choices in slash commands

?

@maiden fable

[maiden fable]

I haven't really used slash commands much, sorry

[jaunty venture]

ok np

[visual island]

Maybe dispatch("request") on HTTPClient.request()?

[maiden fable]

Yea, will have to make a discord.Route class method and call it whenever a request is sent

[visual island]

BTW, still waiting for Andy's solution

[maiden fable]

@pliant gulch

[pliant gulch]

You’ll have to wait a bit

In a meeting

[maiden fable]

Ah okay

[pliant gulch]

Then I got stuff after that, but I’ll ping you when I write it

[maiden fable]

Sorry for disturbing

[visual island]

I didn't tell you to ping

[maiden fable]

Never said u told me to ping

[slate swan]

lol thanks

[livid hinge]

lol ping war

[livid hinge]

what message are you looking for

[maiden fable]

Just like y'all pinged me 3 times yesterday lol

[slate swan]

@maiden fable

[maiden fable]

Yea?

[slate swan]

go play

[maiden fable]

Not in a battle royale anyways

[slate swan]

stream

[maiden fable]

Idk, gonna see if I get a stable ping then lmao

[slate swan]

sure

[dull terrace]

Everybody having problems verifying their bot like me lately

been over a week with no response to support emails, someone else has been waiting two weeks fml

another one got two different emails that said it was fixed and one saying it wasn't

[paper sluice]

lmao

[maiden fable]

I waited for 2 months or smth

[maiden fable]

Not streaming

[dull terrace]

when you get verified in 20 mins and then there's a bug its just

[maiden fable]

Lucky

[slate swan]

Hi ded chat

[vocal snow]

Hi

[slate swan]

bro

[vocal snow]

I'm sorry I couldn't help it

[slate swan]

smh

[vocal plover]

I find that the best technique around bot verification is just not making public bots

• No intent issues
• No dealing with random users
• No scaling issues
• Easy af architecture for both the bot and database schema

[slate swan]

Aka custom bots

[dull terrace]

no because the verification didn't work and i've been waiting over a week now

[slate swan]

wait wdym didn't work? did you get a bot verified email without the bot getting actually verified?

[dull terrace]

yeah, common bug rn

[paper sluice]

same

[pliant gulch]

• no giving your personal identification

[paper sluice]

• no intrest xD

[pliant gulch]

• how the hell you gonna monetise?

[dull terrace]

just pay yourself

[paper sluice]

D:

[paper sluice]

by selling your soul to discord

[pliant gulch]

🗿

[vocal plover]

server I dev for has premium subs/patreon

[maiden fable]

No offense to anyone but I feel like the people who pay for discord bots are.... weird (cannot think of a "better" word rn)

[dull terrace]

if you pay yourself for the bot i'd bet you'd get paid a lot, then you can just use what you earn to pay yourself even more

[slate swan]

Make a bot dashboard site and play ads there

[dull terrace]

generous and/or have a lot of disposable income

not really weird

[vocal plover]

Or a bot that is just really uniquely useful

[paper sluice]

if u have 0 coding knowledge and just want a custom bot which does something other bots dont, ig it makes sense to pay and get it made. But if u mean buy ready made bots then yea thats dumb

[maiden fable]

Well I still feel like spending on smth like a discord bot is just an.... overkill

[vocal plover]

I know of some mod bots that have advanced unique paid features which some servers just need

[maiden fable]

I meant like getting Reaction Roles premium and stuff

[dull terrace]

not really, some bots out here have as much work as any app on the app store

[vocal plover]

Does your 200 member community server need those features? Probably not
Does a server with hundreds of thousands of members need it? Quite possibly

[paper sluice]

ah

[sick birch]

You're a bit biased in the fact that as a bot developer, you feel like you can create the same feature by yourself for free. Do keep in mind that people who pay for premium features are by no means bot developers, and probably are not programmers in general, so they feel that they don't have an option

[maiden fable]

Agreed, probably cz I know how to code I am not able to see the other person's pov

[dull terrace]

Based on my research if you don't have features offered on your patreon and people just pay out of kindness you earn a little over 0.2c per server

game bots with pay to win type stuff get 2c all the way to 14c

[sick birch]

Yet P2W "business strategy" never works out in the long run

[dull terrace]

depends how you approach it robin

[maiden fable]

Agreed

[sick birch]

Personally though I find the discord bot market is more of less taken, there are mostly large bots and people don't often go outside their comfort zone to get smaller bots in

I never really went on the commercial side of it for that very reason

[vocal plover]

I'd say that's true only for the public side of the market

[maiden fable]

Well that is the reason we mostly see beginners in the channel 👀

[vocal plover]

Private single-purpose commission bots are still widely requested

[dull terrace]

i've found the opposite of this, unless you're expecting millions of servers for some reason

[sick birch]

That's a good point

[dull terrace]

have a good page on top.gg and you'll get decent growth

[sick birch]

But when compared to profits of larger bots, it doesn't seem like all that much

[vocal plover]

indeed

[vale wing]

You still will have to promote it

[sick birch]

But for an independent developer, it can seem like quite a lot and be more than enough, could even consider it a side hustle

[dull terrace]

yes and no, my bot i made just for fun that's kinda a mess got to 1k servers in 6 months

to make any sort of money you'd need good conversion and 30k+ servers

but the promotion can be net positive if you have retention over 3-4 months (buying cpm at $1)

[vale wing]

Well you didn't just make the page and let it be, did you? You did promote your bot somewhere

[dull terrace]

not for the first bot

[sick birch]

Possible but I'd assume quite difficult like as mentioned the public market is largely dominated by other big bots

[dull terrace]

just let the page be

[vocal plover]

I've got something like 13k servers now, the hardest bit about monetisation for me is actually being motivated to implement it. There's a lot of moving parts that go into making something that realistically very few people will use

[paper sluice]

are discord bots good source of income?

[sick birch]

Not enough to live off of

[maiden fable]

Lets just open a company which is gonna make bots for ppl

[sick birch]

As an indie developer, that is

[vocal plover]

Yes, if you get to a critical threshold in the way bots like Dyno have, else no

[sick birch]

If you're making a bot as a fun project by yourself, most likely not going to be able to live off of it

[vale wing]

Just get an IT job you will get decent salary

[dull terrace]

bots are the same as anything else, 20% of people earn 80% of the money and 20% of those 20% make a good amount

[vocal plover]

Or if as mentioned earlier you make private commissions and become trusted and well known

[paper sluice]

so u need to make a really good bot, then u need really good marketting to get money?

[sick birch]

Marketing is probably the hardest part I'd say

[vocal plover]

To make a public bot that makes a lot of money now you realistically need a lot of money to start with to get there

[slate swan]

.

Alr back dc lagged

[dull terrace]

i'd say technically you don't need a good bot, you just need one people want and then good marketing and a good monetization strategy

[vale wing]

Yeah that's one of business principles

[vocal plover]

MEE6 is proof enough you don't need a good bot, just a popular one

[vale wing]

Lmfao

[paper sluice]

so this is basically a mini business

[vale wing]

Yes

[vocal plover]

MEE6 is objectively worse than most of its competitors, but people know MEE6, which gives it a massive advantage

[slate swan]

its like pycord

[dull terrace]

btw you can do basic maths on patreons that hide their income

[vocal plover]

I'll refrain from commenting as a lib maintainer

[dull terrace]

owobot is earning at least $2058 a month - 10% to patreon

[slate swan]

[dull terrace]

most bots i've seen tend to earn just under their mid tier though so i imagine around £3

[paper sluice]

damn

[vocal plover]

A lot of people who pay a very small part of their own income can still generate a lot of developer income

[maiden fable]

Bro, that is more than my dad's monthly salary wtf

[vale wing]

That's like 7x my actual salary tho

In russia salaries for teachers are low 🥲

[dull terrace]

$3.75 x 2058 = $7718 - 10% = $6945 *12 =

[maiden fable]

u, teacher?

[dull terrace]

$83k per year

[paper sluice]

thats ∞x mine

[paper sluice]

what do u teach?

[sick birch]

DivisionByZero error

[vale wing]

Yes I teach accordion and I play it

[dull terrace]

owo bot is made by multiple people though (i think) so that's probably split

[slate swan]

Maths

[sick birch]

Most large ones are

[maiden fable]

Bruhhhh my parent's annual income is like 30k

[sick birch]

That's one disadvantage when it comes that

[vale wing]

The sus thing is that my accordion costs $5k

[slate swan]

!ot you have been moderated

[unkempt canyon]

Off-topic channel: #ot2-never-nester’s-nightmare

Please read our off-topic etiquette before participating in conversations.

[slate swan]

[paper sluice]

traitor

[vale wing]

Moderator

[slate swan]

it needed to be done

[dull terrace]

also bear in mind that owobot has very low conversion compared to other bots

[paper sluice]

i thought u wr one of us

[slate swan]

im sorry little one

[maiden fable]

so the bot devs are basically earning thousands by doing almost nothing?

[dull terrace]

the cap for earning is probably more like $500k a year if you did everything perfectly

[vale wing]

Yes just like most of businessmen do

[dull terrace]

well they did all the work up front so i wouldn't say nothing

[vale wing]

Put effort or money and then just collect money

[dull terrace]

i imagine maintaining a bot with that many users is hard af too

[shrewd apex]

i am pretty sure those buisnessmen are oil tycoons

[vale wing]

And most of them usually just put money

[maiden fable]

That is why almost

[vale wing]

You only need to have a good marketing manager

[dull terrace]

with anything artistic you can't say that though, you have to make multiple attempts before you make anything if you even do

[shrewd apex]

just responding to issues or bugs and problems would be hard

[dull terrace]

the reward is you can kind of relax and get some income for a few years when you finally get something that works

[shrewd apex]

||Tony|| Stark

[vale wing]

Support role grinders be like: am I a joke to you

[dull terrace]

also if you think the discord bot market is oversaturated, try to release something on the play store

[vale wing]

Fnaf 69 😉

Gonna become game of the year if google allows payments in russia which it won't do ofc

[vocal plover]

Counterargument for "the discord bot market is oversaturated": All the simple low effort ideas have been taken, you need to think further outside the box, find something everyone wants that they didn't know they want. There's a lot more ideas available than will ever be used, you just need to find them

[shrewd apex]

yeah well the start and getting your product on market and standing out is always difficult

[dull terrace]

same for every market and creative thing you can do

[vale wing]

The start in marketing is aids

Is almost impossible without money

[dull terrace]

the saturation is all balanced based on potential earnings

[shrewd apex]

true if only it were so easy

welp lets stop before someone warns us

[maiden fable]

Oh wait play store talk finished 😔
I wasn't able to brag about the project I am working on give my comments

[dull terrace]

with top.gg you can literally start marketing with $1

[vocal plover]

for what?

[slate swan]

discord bots will always be bland, you make a feature its already probably been done, you make a unique one it gets stolen by the top bots and becomes a feature all bots have and the cycle continues!

[shrewd apex]

idk product management in discord bot channel?...

[vale wing]

Well in russia we can't pay to outside countries

[vocal plover]

about discord bots

[vocal plover]

eh I disagree

knowing an idea doesnt mean you're gonna be able to recreate it to any level people will want to use

[shrewd apex]

the one who innovates will have an advantage

[vale wing]

Btw aias just hit 50 guilds 😀

[dull terrace]

that's ominous

[shrewd apex]

i mean like the poketwo bot full repo is out but there are no such bots on same level as it is

[shrewd apex]

congrats🎉

[dull terrace]

btw here's an earning sheet for some bots

min earn is just the minimum based off of patreon lowest pledge

when they don't share their full earnings and just number of patrons

[paper sluice]

monthly?

[dull terrace]

yeah the earnings is monthly

[paper sluice]

thats alot just for a discord bot

[slate swan]

epic rpg......

[buoyant zodiac]

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