discord-bots

[coarse anvil]

i did that now what

[final iron]

Python can be extremely useful even if you don't want to work a job as a programmer

[slate swan]

bro

[slim ibex]

bro

[cloud dawn]

And that is good, but like i said before this server doesn't allow recruiting, you can ask for collaborators or interest people in your project by having it open source.

[shrewd inlet]

can i jump straight into discord.py? like can i learn it or do i need to learn from the very bottom?

[alpine furnace]

What kind of logic is that? A chatbot isn’t “just” something you can make, or have made without some type of investment: time, money or otherwise. It’s an actual piece of software and needs to be thought of as such

[slim ibex]

learn Python first

[slate swan]

very bottom

[slim ibex]

You need to learn the language first

[final iron]

Imagine you try to drive a car without learning how to first

You're going to do a lot of bad things

[slate swan]

more like if you tried to learn how to swim in the deep ocean

its so deep you cant touch the floor of it

[cloud dawn]

I like this one more

[alpine furnace]

depth doesn’t affect how well you can swim

Anyway

[slate swan]

no but if you dont know how to swim youll drown

[shrewd inlet]

but it can affect the consequences of you not being able not to swim

[cloud dawn]

@slate swan it is fairly doable, i did it, asked for improvements and suggestions here. Turned out fine (i think)

[slate swan]

and its waves are so big you wouldnt survive

[cloud dawn]

Well in that case just die, in this case you would be writing bad code.

[shrewd inlet]

okay fine you guys convinced me. i’ll learn code. @slate swan ty for the links :)

[cloud dawn]

Ah i did have some prior php skills :)

[slate swan]

yeah i started off really bad and it made it hard to learn everything thats why i prove my point to learn it first so you wont go through the same error as myself

[slim ibex]

same

[final iron]

I learned python before making a discord bot 😎

[slate swan]

mostly why all generals here say it

[slate swan]

built different

[shrewd inlet]

🤝

[cloud dawn]

I just told myself that i just throw away my bot each week and then improve on what i've learned new.

[slate swan]

i learned basics but not oop and async stuff

[slim ibex]

my fault

I think imma get into more advanced async soon

[slate swan]

we all know who you are

[alpine furnace]

I mean, if your main motivation is to create a discord bot, by no means should you abstain from doing that after “learning python”, to whatever level that entails anyway. Could just be a project you work on while learning python, and it would work as well

[cloud dawn]

I just learned python to automate boring stuff

[final iron]

Making a Discord bot is still a great learning project. You just need to know the basics or you're going to have a very bad time

[slate swan]

youll get bored of it lol

[cloud dawn]

Might aswell make a bot that makes discord bots

[slate swan]

👁️👁️

like?

it helps with?

suggestions or?

[cloud dawn]

Searches for the word client and tells you are a fool extension.

[slate swan]

most exts can do that

[cloud dawn]

I call that a proper IDE

[slate swan]

and docs strings do have examples and return types which pylance reads

[pliant gulch]

Your intelisense should already do that for you

[slate swan]

^

[pliant gulch]

nvim 🙌

[slate swan]

screams in sublime

[cloud dawn]

windows updated notepade

[slate swan]

hey brandon👋

i didnt have intellisense for sublime until andy screamed at me and made me download pyright

[pliant gulch]

vim lsp 😔

coc.nvim ✅

[slate swan]

🗿

[pliant gulch]

Plus coc-pyright 😼

[slate swan]

[lament depot]

**What feature would you like to see added to the library? What feature in the library do you think is redundant?**

Suggest more topics here!

[kindred epoch]

For questions and discussions relating to Discord bot development with discord.py and other relevant Python libraries.

[slate swan]

When I enter commands on other servers, they do not work (22 is written to the console), although they should, in one command (should work on one server), this is written.

if message.author.bot:
        return
    if message.guild.id != 692305542324027424:
        print('22')
        return

[torn sail]

!d discord.ext.commands.Bot.process_commands

[unkempt canyon]

discord.ext.commands.Bot.process\_commands

await process_commands(message)```
This function is a [*coroutine*](https://docs.python.org/3/library/asyncio-task.html#coroutine).

This function processes the commands that have been registered to the bot and other groups. Without this coroutine, none of the commands will be triggered.

By default, this coroutine is called inside the [`on_message()`](https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/master/api.html#discord.on_message "discord.on_message") event. If you choose to override the [`on_message()`](https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/master/api.html#discord.on_message "discord.on_message") event, then you should invoke this coroutine as well.

This is built using other low level tools, and is equivalent to a call to [`get_context()`](https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/master/ext/commands/api.html#discord.ext.commands.Bot.get_context "discord.ext.commands.Bot.get_context") followed by a call to [`invoke()`](https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/master/ext/commands/api.html#discord.ext.commands.Bot.invoke "discord.ext.commands.Bot.invoke").

This also checks if the message’s author is a bot and doesn’t call [`get_context()`](https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/master/ext/commands/api.html#discord.ext.commands.Bot.get_context "discord.ext.commands.Bot.get_context") or [`invoke()`](https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/master/ext/commands/api.html#discord.ext.commands.Bot.invoke "discord.ext.commands.Bot.invoke") if so.

[torn sail]

Add this in ur on msg events

Or use a listener

[slate swan]

It is

[placid skiff]

how to get the name of a slash sub command after the invokation using disnake?

[slate swan]

Throw off the code that works only on one server?

[kindred epoch]

if message.guild.id != 692305542324027424:
``` why does he need that when he wants the commands to work in the other servers?

[torn sail]

You could use a check instead

[slate swan]

all commands do not work on other servers, one command should work only on one server, if I use other commands on other servers writes 22 in consolee

[placid skiff]

someone?

[neat pagoda]

How do you use append to edit a variable?

[slate swan]

🤔

[neat pagoda]

like

content = []

@client.command()
async def ban(ctx,*,text):
  content.append(text)
  await ctx.send(f"Banned {text} From Using This Bot"

[kindred epoch]

oh god

[neat pagoda]

basic idea

[slate swan]

._. idk, But why the commands do not work on other servers, although they used to work

[neat pagoda]

would I put the global content inside the command, or below the variable?

[left crater]

async def buttons(ctx):
    button = Button(label="gyi")
    view = View()
    view.add_item(button)
    await ctx.send("hi", view=view)```How would I change the color of my button

[slim ibex]

Where is your view

[torn sail]

!d discord.ui.Button

[unkempt canyon]

discord.ui.Button

class discord.ui.Button(*, style=<ButtonStyle.secondary: 2>, label=None, disabled=False, custom_id=None, url=None, emoji=None, row=None)```
Represents a UI button.

New in version 2.0.

[slim ibex]

^

[torn sail]

The style kwarg

[slim ibex]

specify it in the decorator

[left crater]

isn't it view = View()

[torn sail]

Doesn’t need to be in decorator

[slim ibex]

where is that View class located

^

[left crater]

huh

[slim ibex]

||oh no||

[left crater]

discord.py

[slim ibex]

!d discord.ui.View

[unkempt canyon]

discord.ui.View

class discord.ui.View(*, timeout=180.0)```
Represents a UI view.

This object must be inherited to create a UI within Discord.

New in version 2.0.

[slim ibex]

your view class has to derive from the discord.ui.View class

[torn sail]

It doesn’t

[slim ibex]

?

elaborate

[torn sail]

Button would have to be subclassed

[slim ibex]

yes but that is if the class is just one button

[torn sail]

Yeah I guess it’s best to subclass view

[slim ibex]

a view can include buttons and other ui elements

[torn sail]

If the button label doesn’t vary or anything

Wait nvm

[sand sun]

Hey so I need some help. Whats going on is when I run my bot on 2 different servers or just twice I get this error. ```
Ignoring exception in command setup:
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/3.9/lib/python3.9/site-packages/discord/ext/commands/core.py", line 85, in wrapped
ret = await coro(*args, **kwargs)
File "/Users/coop/Desktop/In Progress Python Programs/ME API test/main.py", line 41, in _command
get_info.start()
File "/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/3.9/lib/python3.9/site-packages/discord/ext/tasks/init.py", line 205, in start
raise RuntimeError('Task is already launched and is not completed.')
RuntimeError: Task is already launched and is not completed.

 Here is my full code https://paste.pythondiscord.com/upoveposim. Also I know I'm using requests I will change it later. I'm using discord.py btw.

Like have my bot on 2 different discord servers

[slim ibex]

looks like something blocked your task from completing

[final iron]

This code is pain

[sand sun]

Ok well by running I meant using the command

sorry for the confusion

[final iron]

Globals, breaking pep8, using blocking code, readability and a few others

[sand sun]

Ok

Do you think you can help?

[final iron]

If you run the bot it becomes online in every server

[rotund creek]

All this is taking place in a view class
Im trying to send another message that also has buttons on it

[sand sun]

I meant the command

[rotund creek]

I didnt give error

[final iron]

You want to run a command and have it send in 2 different servers?

[rotund creek]

So basically its not letting me do what im trying to do just saying interaction has been responded to

[final iron]

camelCase should never be used in python

[rotund creek]

Whats that

[final iron]

snake_case is used for function and variable names while PascalCase is used for class names

[rotund creek]

Oh

Why not?

camelCase looks nice

[final iron]

It's not the style for python

[rotund creek]

Ive coded too much dart

Dartpad requures camelCase

I just brang it over here

Oh ok neat

[final iron]

It's not fine

[rotund creek]

Ima have to email it to myself brb

[final iron]

It's not a major issue but it's not "fine"

[rotund creek]

@slate swan should I only send code for that button or entire class

Lol

[slate swan]

you wanna go to pep prison?

[rotund creek]

Alright

[slate swan]

🚔

intercom: "we got a runner"
🚓 💨

[tacit storm]

!ot

[unkempt canyon]

Off-topic channel: #ot2-never-nester’s-nightmare

Please read our off-topic etiquette before participating in conversations.

[slate swan]

🚓 💨

[tacit storm]

whatever is happening here is very off topic and belongs in #ot2-never-nester’s-nightmare

[rotund creek]

class rpsMultiConfirmView(View):

	def __init__(self, ctx, user):

		super().__init__(timeout = 10)

		self.ctx = ctx

		self.user = user

	@discord.ui.button(label = "Cancel", style = discord.ButtonStyle.grey, emoji = None)

	async def cancelButton(self, button, interaction):

		if interaction.user == self.user:

			self.children[0].style = discord.ButtonStyle.green

			self.children[0].disabled = True

			self.children[1].disabled = True

			await interaction.response.edit_message(content = f"Well {self.user} decided not to have fun...", embed = None, view = self)

		else:

			await interaction.response.send_message("Hey! That button isn't for you!", ephemeral = True)

	@discord.ui.button(label = "Confirm", style = discord.ButtonStyle.grey, emoji = None)

	async def confirmButton(self, button, interaction):

		if interaction.user == self.user:

			self.children[1].style = discord.ButtonStyle.green

			self.children[0].disabled = True

			self.children[1].disabled = True

			await interaction.response.edit_message(view = self)

			users = [self.ctx.author, self.user]

			first = random.choice(users)

			for user in users:

				if user != first:

					second = user

				else:

					pass

			embed = discord.Embed(

				title = f"{first} vs. {second}",

				description = f"{first}, Pick your choice!",

				color = 0xFFFFFF

			)

			embed.set_footer(icon_url = self.ctx.author.display_avatar.url, text = f"Requested by {self.ctx.author}")

			view = rpsMultiFirstView(self.ctx, first, second)

			view.message = await interaction.response.send_message(first.mention, embed = embed, view = view)

		else:

			await interaction.response.send_message("Hey! That button isn't for you!", ephemeral = True)

	async def on_timeout(self):

		self.children[0].disabled = True

		self.children[1].disabled = True

		await self.message.edit(f"Well {self.user} decided not to have fun...", embed = None, view = self)

Yeah

[tacit storm]

then show us it

[rotund creek]

Its supposed to send another message with buttons but it doesnt

[tacit storm]

send us, the error.

[rotund creek]

It logs "interaction has already been responded too"

[rotund creek]

Different device cant

[tacit storm]

uh

[rotund creek]

Okie

Ah I never knew that

Oh ok neat

It says "Interaction" object has no attribute "send"

So an alternative could be I pass ctx to the class and do await self.ctx.send() right?

[slate swan]

no interaction has .send

may you send the code?

[rotund creek]

@okimii#0434

[slim ibex]

attributes should be put before super init

[rotund creek]

Why

Every tutorial I see they put super init before

[slim ibex]

I mean you can but I think it might violate PEP8. it is obscure and might not matter though

but your class name violates pep8

[unkempt canyon]

disnake.Interaction.send

await send(content=None, *, embed=..., embeds=..., file=..., files=..., allowed_mentions=..., view=..., components=..., tts=False, ephemeral=False, delete_after=...)```
This function is a [*coroutine*](https://docs.python.org/3/library/asyncio-task.html#coroutine).

Sends a message using either [`response.send_message`](https://docs.disnake.dev/en/latest/api.html#disnake.InteractionResponse.send_message "disnake.InteractionResponse.send_message") or [`followup.send`](https://docs.disnake.dev/en/latest/api.html#disnake.Webhook.send "disnake.Webhook.send").

If the interaction hasn’t been responded to yet, this method will call [`response.send_message`](https://docs.disnake.dev/en/latest/api.html#disnake.InteractionResponse.send_message "disnake.InteractionResponse.send_message"). Otherwise, it will call [`followup.send`](https://docs.disnake.dev/en/latest/api.html#disnake.Webhook.send "disnake.Webhook.send").

Note

This method does not return a [`Message`](https://docs.disnake.dev/en/latest/api.html#disnake.Message "disnake.Message") object. If you need a message object, use [`original_message()`](https://docs.disnake.dev/en/latest/api.html#disnake.Interaction.original_message "disnake.Interaction.original_message") to fetch it, or use [`followup.send`](https://docs.disnake.dev/en/latest/api.html#disnake.Webhook.send "disnake.Webhook.send") directly instead of this method if you’re sending a followup message.

[rotund creek]

@slate swan im using pycord

[slim ibex]

Pycord docs are shit

[rotund creek]

IKR

[slate swan]

[slim ibex]

they kept have the discord namespace

and added .discord to it

[rotund creek]

And they dont wanna help they tell me to check docs

[slate swan]

same as nextcord

[unkempt canyon]

I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that.

No documentation found for the requested symbol.

[slate swan]

!d

[unkempt canyon]

All inventories (`41` total)

• aiohttp
• arcade
• arrow
• asciimatics
• asyncpg
• attr
• black

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[rotund creek]

Alr ty

[slate swan]

guess not

[rotund creek]

Alr

[left crater]

i understand now lmao

i was just learning buttons

[native wedge]

im sorry if this is a beginner question but how do i check if a message sent contains a certain word? (im not trying to make commands)

example something like
if message sent has word fart
send fart

[left crater]

  await message.channel.send("giyg')```

[native wedge]

if "fart" in ctx.message.content:
  await ctx.send("fart")

?

[sage otter]

If you have ctx defined

Use ctx.message.content

ctx.context isn’t a thing.

[native wedge]

ok fixed

yes
i use ctx instead of message

[left crater]

ok thats fine

it should work i think

[native wedge]

where should i put this exactly
a on_message function ?

[sage otter]

on_message doesn’t have ctx

if you have a command use what I said earlier

[left crater]

if u are making an event than use message

[native wedge]

ok so i can just plop this into a cogs ?

[sage otter]

Wherever you want

As long as you have some instance of Message. You're about to check it’s content.

[left crater]

async def on_message(message):
    if "fart" in message.content:
        await message.channel.send("giyg")```

[final iron]

Can I see your current code?

[final iron]

Don't use bot.event

bot.listen() is better

[native wedge]

i dont have such code i was just asking in general on how do to this

[final iron]

!d discord.ext.commands.Bot.listen

[unkempt canyon]

discord.ext.commands.Bot.listen

@listen(name=None)```
A decorator that registers another function as an external event listener. Basically this allows you to listen to multiple events from different places e.g. such as [`on_ready()`](https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/master/api.html#discord.on_ready "discord.on_ready")

The functions being listened to must be a [coroutine](https://docs.python.org/3/library/asyncio-task.html#coroutine "(in Python v3.9)").

Example...

[final iron]

Also you should look into type hinting

[native wedge]

how would i optimize my code ?https://paste.pythondiscord.com/zozekapano

i feel like im doing something that is very unoptimized

[quick dust]

  File "main.py", line 2, in <module>
    from keep_alive import keep_alive
ImportError: cannot import name 'keep_alive' from 'keep_alive' (/home/runner/Bot-Tutoria-2/keep_alive.py)
``` can someone help me?

[slim ibex]

Replit 🗿

[native wedge]

Don't use Repl.it

Rate Limit Galore

[slim ibex]

💀

[native wedge]

(source: trust me bro)

[patent lark]

be sure you're spelling the filename correctly, as well as the function you're trying to import. if you're file is inside any other folders, be sure to specify the correct path.

[slate swan]

async def on_message(message):
if message.content.startswith(prefix + 'information'):
name = str(message.guild.name)
description = str(message.guild.description)
icon = str(message.guild.icon_url)

    owner = str(message.guild.owner)
    id = str(message.guild.id)
    region = str(message.guild.region)
    memberCount = str(message.guild.member_count)

    embed = DiscordEmbed(
        title = name + "Server Information",
        description = description,
        color = discord.Color.dark_grey
    )
    embed.set_thumbnail(url = icon)
    embed.add_embed_field(name = "Owner", value=id, inline = True)
    embed.add_embed_field(name = "Server ID", value=id, inline = True)
    embed.add_embed_field(name = "Region", value=id, inline = True)
    embed.add_embed_field(name = "Member Count", value=id, inline = True)
    await message.reply(embed)

@patent lark

[slim ibex]

!code

[unkempt canyon]

Here's how to format Python code on Discord:

```py
print('Hello world!')
```

These are backticks, not quotes. Check this out if you can't find the backtick key.

[visual island]

embed=embed

[patent lark]

^

[slim ibex]

embed.add_field

[slate swan]

File "C:\Users\tyler\AppData\Local\Programs\Python\Python310\lib\site-packages\discord\client.py", line 343, in _run_event
await coro(*args, **kwargs)
File "C:\Users\tyler\Desktop\Projects\inspyre discord bot\Bot.py", line 41, in on_message
await message.reply(embed=embed)
File "C:\Users\tyler\AppData\Local\Programs\Python\Python310\lib\site-packages\discord\message.py", line 1358, in reply
return await self.channel.send(content, reference=self, **kwargs)
File "C:\Users\tyler\AppData\Local\Programs\Python\Python310\lib\site-packages\discord\abc.py", line 1017, in send
embed = embed.to_dict()
AttributeError: 'DiscordEmbed' object has no attribute 'to_dict'

It gives that when i add embed=embed

[patent lark]

await message.reply(embed) ---> await message.reply(embed=embed)

[quick dust]

🎂

[slate swan]

i change to this?

[slim ibex]

never seen add_embed_field before

but if it works you probably don’t have to change it

[slate swan]

thats what vsc told me to do

File "C:\Users\tyler\Desktop\Projects\inspyre discord bot\Bot.py", line 37, in on_message
embed.embed.add_field(name = "Owner", value=id, inline = True)
AttributeError: 'DiscordEmbed' object has no attribute 'embed'

[slim ibex]

an embed can’t be changed to a dictionary

it’s just embed.add_field

[patent lark]

wrong.

well, it can be set up via a dictionary.

[slate swan]

File "C:\Users\tyler\Desktop\Projects\inspyre discord bot\Bot.py", line 37, in on_message
embed.embed.add_field(name = "Owner", value=id, inline = True)
AttributeError: 'DiscordEmbed' object has no attribute 'embed'

idk what ot do

[hoary cargo]

[patent lark]

how have you implemented the embed into your program?

[hoary cargo]

embed.embed

[final iron]

embed.embed

[hoary cargo]

[native wedge]

how would I optimize this code?
https://paste.pythondiscord.com/zozekapano

[slate swan]

for what

[final iron]

Don't use python

🗿

[native wedge]

no but make it shorter

in lines

[final iron]

Don't use requests

[supple crescent]

Cntrl+a , backspace, ctrl +s

[final iron]

It's blocking

[supple crescent]

(Your welcome btw)

[slate swan]

!blocking

[unkempt canyon]

Why do we need asynchronous programming?
Imagine that you're coding a Discord bot and every time somebody uses a command, you need to get some information from a database. But there's a catch: the database servers are acting up today and take a whole 10 seconds to respond. If you do not use asynchronous methods, your whole bot will stop running until it gets a response from the database. How do you fix this? Asynchronous programming.

What is asynchronous programming?
An asynchronous program utilises the async and await keywords. An asynchronous program pauses what it's doing and does something else whilst it waits for some third-party service to complete whatever it's supposed to do. Any code within an async context manager or function marked with the await keyword indicates to Python, that whilst this operation is being completed, it can do something else. For example:

import discord

# Bunch of bot code

async def ping(ctx):
    await ctx.send("Pong!")

What does the term "blocking" mean?
A blocking operation is wherever you do something without awaiting it. This tells Python that this step must be completed before it can do anything else. Common examples of blocking operations, as simple as they may seem, include: outputting text, adding two numbers and appending an item onto a list. Most common Python libraries have an asynchronous version available to use in asynchronous contexts.

async libraries
The standard async library - asyncio
Asynchronous web requests - aiohttp
Talking to PostgreSQL asynchronously - asyncpg
MongoDB interactions asynchronously - motor
Check out this list for even more!

[native wedge]

what should i use for reaching an api instead ?

[final iron]

aiohttp

[patent lark]

something along the lines of this

 help_embed = discord.Embed.from_dict(
        {
          "type": "rich",
          "title": "your title",
          "description": "your description"
          "color": 0x00FFFF
        }
      )
      await ctx.send(embed=help_embed)```

[native wedge]

any documentation to make requests with aiohttp + json ?

[slate swan]

https://paste.pythondiscord.com/ifowoledis.py

File "C:\Users\tyler\AppData\Local\Programs\Python\Python310\lib\site-packages\discord\client.py", line 343, in _run_event
await coro(*args, **kwargs)
File "C:\Users\tyler\Desktop\Projects\inspyre discord bot\Bot.py", line 37, in on_message
embed.embed.add_field(name = "Owner", value = id, inline = True)
AttributeError: 'DiscordEmbed' object has no attribute 'embed'

[slate swan]

youll stop your code and block your bot from accepting a heartbeat

[slate swan]

ok aiohttp makes request some apis format the response body with json

lol

[slate swan]

@snopw

[native wedge]

https://gdbrowser.com/api/profile/robtop

[slate swan]

@patent lark

[native wedge]

look at the response, how would i do Requests with Aiohttp ?

[vast gale]

@slate swan what is DiscordEmbed

[supple crescent]

The boxes that bots make like when using !p

[slate swan]

wym?..

!p

[unkempt canyon]

Missing required argument

pep_number

Command Help

!pep <pep_number>
Can also use: get_pep, p

Fetches information about a PEP and sends it to the channel.

[vast gale]

where are you getting the DiscordEmbed class from?

[supple crescent]

Yeah like this

[slate swan]

import Discord_embed

[vast gale]

no, ik, I've made a few bots myself :3
I'm trying to figure out their code

[slate swan]

bro a request is when the client communicates with the api?

[vast gale]

there's a class in discordpy which is what you should be using, discord.Embed

[sage otter]

it doesn’t have to be an api. Can be any host.

[native wedge]

i know what is a request. i just want to know if there is documentation / tutorial on how to make Requests with api's in python WITH Aiohttp

[slate swan]

ye but it was in his case

[slate swan]

ah yeah

!pypi aiohttp

[unkempt canyon]

aiohttp v3.8.1

Async http client/server framework (asyncio)

[slate swan]

documention should be there

[final iron]

there

🗿

[native wedge]

and Discord.py is included with Aiohttp correct ?

[slate swan]

pardon?

[native wedge]

i'd have to import

import aiohttp
import asyncio

?

[sage otter]

Also I’m not so sure about this. When you block you aren’t rejecting discord heartbeat your blocking your own heartbeat_ack

[slate swan]

yes

[sage otter]

Discords heartbeat is never rejected or blocked. Only the acknowledgment your bot sends can due to your code being stuck.

[slate swan]

doesnt the api send a ack heartbeat and the wrapper needs to handle it and then send it back?

[sage otter]

No

Discord sends heartbeat

You send the heartbeat acknowledgment

[slate swan]

ah true sorry

dont know much about heartbeats since i havent worked with websockets

[sage otter]

Layman terms
hb(discord) - Yo are you still there homie
hb_ack(you) - Yea for sure brother.

[slate swan]

yeah ik

[sage otter]

Just think of it that way and you got a grasp

[slim ibex]

not sure if you can define an embed in the embed kwarg

[slate swan]

ik whats a heartbeat i just didnt know how it would get acknowledge

[slim ibex]

never tried it before though

[sage otter]

Ofc you can

Why wouldn’t you be able to

[slim ibex]

yeah true LMAO

[slate swan]

bro its oop

it doesnt matter you always set the class in there if you make a var thats just a class instance

[sage otter]

it’s not even oop. It’s just basic programming

[slate swan]

i mean class instances

[slim ibex]

key word argument

[slate swan]

!arg-kwargs

[unkempt canyon]

*args and **kwargs

These special parameters allow functions to take arbitrary amounts of positional and keyword arguments. The names args and kwargs are purely convention, and could be named any other valid variable name. The special functionality comes from the single and double asterisks (*). If both are used in a function signature, *args must appear before **kwargs.

Single asterisk
*args will ingest an arbitrary amount of positional arguments, and store it in a tuple. If there are parameters after *args in the parameter list with no default value, they will become required keyword arguments by default.

Double asterisk
**kwargs will ingest an arbitrary amount of keyword arguments, and store it in a dictionary. There can be no additional parameters after **kwargs in the parameter list.

Use cases
• Decorators (see !tags decorators)
• Inheritance (overriding methods)
• Future proofing (in the case of the first two bullet points, if the parameters change, your code won't break)
• Flexibility (writing functions that behave like dict() or print())

See !tags positional-keyword for information about positional and keyword arguments

[sage otter]

That’s not really a thing you ask us to help you fix

[slate swan]

bro you forgot to close them its basic py

[sage otter]

It’s syntax

[left crater]

why is it better?

[slate swan]

print(str(a) is what you did

[sage otter]

Because using on_message with event overrides the built in message event listener(which listens for commands)

Robin is here. Time to go. 🚶

[slate swan]

yes you can

[slate swan]

same here btw love your pfp🏃

[sick birch]

People use on_message event all the time, and are like, "why isn't my any of my commands working?" save yourself the hassle and use @bot.listen(). There are a few usecases for on_message event but unless you really need those don't worry about it

[left crater]

ok thanks for clarifying

[slate swan]

hey robin in listeners how does the on msg event not get overwritten does it proccess the command?

[sage otter]

Wait

[sick birch]

Listeners are fundementally different from events since events sort of "overwrite" the actual event like you said, but listeners just get added to a list (not exactly but you understand my point), and when an event happens, ever coro in that list gets notified

[sage otter]

Am I tripping or something or did you not put the kwargs in the class constructor

[slate swan]

yeah but like how exactly

[slate swan]

nah youre not tripping

[sage otter]

You put title and desc outside of the actual embed

[sick birch]

Think of it like this:

@listener_decorator(func):
  someList.append(func)

async def some_event(...):
  for func in someList:
    await func(...)

@listener_decorator
async def some_other_event(...):
  ...

[sage otter]

Dude you don’t need to close anything

You just need to put title and shit inside the parenthesis after discord.Embed

[sick birch]

@client.command()
async def ban(...):
  embed = discord.Embed()
  embed.title = ...
  embed.description = ...
  embed.color = ...
  embed.set_footer(...)

  await ctx.send(embed=embed)

[sage otter]

discord.Embed(title="yessir")

[slate swan]

properly

[sage otter]

Why someone would build embeds like this is beyond me

[slate swan]

i wanted to know exactly but ill check sec code 😔

[sick birch]

Well their current code looks similar, so if they want to keep it like that they can use that route

embed = discord.Embed(
  title=...
  description=...
  ...
)
``` works too

[sage otter]

They built the embed object inside the send method

It’s not really that much similar

[sick birch]

I meant the part where they have

    title = "User banned",
    description = f"{member.name} has been banned by {ctx.author.name}",
    footer = "{time}"
    color = discord.Color.000000()

Why is it all inside the coro though

why not construct it ouside, then pass it in and save yourself the headache of where to close it

[sage otter]

There’s nothing wrong with that.

[slate swan]

memory optimization

[slate swan]

who said there was something wrong with it?

👁️ 👁️

[sage otter]

why is it all inside the coro

I was talking to Robin

Literally use vsc to figure this out

If you put your cursor beside a parenthesis

It underlines it

With its counterpart

[slate swan]

you forgot a coma in footer and thats now how you do it lol

[sick birch]

Really isn't but it makes it hard to read

I'm all about readability you know

[slate swan]

!d discord.Embed.set_footer | is how you do it

[unkempt canyon]

discord.Embed.set\_footer

set_footer(*, text=Embed.Empty, icon_url=Embed.Empty)```
Sets the footer for the embed content.

This function returns the class instance to allow for fluent-style chaining.

[sage otter]

I mean. I prefer optimization over readability

Even if it is minuscule

It’s good practice.

[slate swan]

same peformance > readability

[slate swan]

if you cant read it guess you dont have enough experience

[sage otter]

Add another parenthesis at the end

Terminating tho. Not opening.

[slate swan]

bro i told you already

[slate swan]

^

[slate swan]

^

#bot-commands

[sick birch]

!d discord.Member.avatar

[unkempt canyon]

discord.Member.avatar

property avatar```
Equivalent to [`User.avatar`](https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/master/api.html#discord.User.avatar "discord.User.avatar")

[sick birch]

np

[unkempt canyon]

time

This module provides various time-related functions. For related functionality, see also the datetime and calendar modules.

Although this module is always available, not all functions are available on all platforms. Most of the functions defined in this module call platform C library functions with the same name. It may sometimes be helpful to consult the platform documentation, because the semantics of these functions varies among platforms.

An explanation of some terminology and conventions is in order.

• The epoch is the point where the time starts, and is platform dependent. For Unix, the epoch is January 1, 1970, 00:00:00 (UTC). To find out what the epoch is on a given platform, look at time.gmtime(0).

Similar names: ipython.time, django.time, django.fieldlookup.time

The Zen of Python, by Tim Peters

Beautiful is better than ugly.
Explicit is better than implicit.
Simple is better than complex.
Complex is better than complicated.
Flat is better than nested.
Sparse is better than dense.
Readability counts.
Special cases aren't special enough to break the rules.
Although practicality beats purity.
Errors should never pass silently.
Unless explicitly silenced.
In the face of ambiguity, refuse the temptation to guess.
There should be one-- and preferably only one --obvious way to do it.
Although that way may not be obvious at first unless you're Dutch.
Now is better than never.
Although never is often better than right now.
If the implementation is hard to explain, it's a bad idea.
If the implementation is easy to explain, it may be a good idea.
Namespaces are one honking great idea -- let's do more of those!

[sick birch]

"readability counts" yeah

I only prefer optimization if readability makes the code extremely unoptimized

[sage otter]

Readability has no correlation to optimization

Well, in a significant way atleast.

[sick birch]

Yeah, that's why I prefer readability 99% of the time

Sacrificing a few lines to make something more readable shouldn't come at an extreme performance cost

[sage otter]

even if it’s minuscule, it’s good practice.

[sick birch]

Like the earlier case about declaring embed object inside the ctx.send() vs outside, I think seperating them is a better idea since it's easier to tell which part does what

Exactly, it's a discord bot at the end of the day

Most of the time you're sitting around waiting for a user to trigger a command

[sage otter]

Okimii was referring to memory optimization. There’s no point in declaring a variable if you're just gonna use it once. That defeats the whole point in why variable data types were made.

[sick birch]

Do you have any error handlers?

Those might be eating up your errors indiscriminately

[slim ibex]

🗿

[sick birch]

Odd because that looks perfect to me

Unless it's something tiny

on_command_error()

Or a function like that, do you have any?

[slim ibex]

whats wrong?

[pliant gulch]

Either way if there is no reference to the newly initialised variable it's gonna be garbage collected, but still best to avoid

[sick birch]

Gonna point out a few things, if you're gonna use {} inside strings make sure it's an f-string, and if url=None you can just omit it

[slim ibex]

text=f"{time}"

[sage otter]

That’s just shitty ideology. The project itself shouldn’t dictate whether or not you the developer should strive for better practice in your optimizations.

[slim ibex]

and also color should be 0x000000

^

[sick birch]

Even with those it should still send the embed,

[sick birch]

Readability vs performance is subjective, if you believe readability is better than performance, go for it in your projects. If you believe performance is better than readability, go for that as well

Unless one is really impacting your project in a negative way, it shouldn't be a big deal

[slim ibex]

as robin says, you can omit url

[sage otter]

Readability is at at the slightest level of priority. In the end you should be worrying about functionality. Readability only counts in collaboration. If you understand your own code which can be influenced by things like comments and shit readability isn’t that much important. In this case creating an instance of a class in the coro isn’t that much unreadable nor low level.

[slate swan]

really depends tbh ig readability is better for everyone while performance is more for companies and advance developers

how those that work?

[slim ibex]

where is this time variable coming from

[slate swan]

thats like saying you did good code back then and now you do worse

[slim ibex]

no but where do you declare this variable? unless its not a variable

[sage otter]

Comments exist for a reason

[buoyant quail]

time()

its a function so you need to call it

[slim ibex]

^

[slate swan]

i doubt you would, you would understand better

[sage otter]

They were designed for that purpose. For increasing readability and understanding of what code does.

[slim ibex]

its time.time() btw

[buoyant quail]

from time import time i think

[unkempt canyon]

The Zen of Python, by Tim Peters

Beautiful is better than ugly.
Explicit is better than implicit.
Simple is better than complex.
Complex is better than complicated.
Flat is better than nested.
Sparse is better than dense.
Readability counts.
Special cases aren't special enough to break the rules.
Although practicality beats purity.
Errors should never pass silently.
Unless explicitly silenced.
In the face of ambiguity, refuse the temptation to guess.
There should be one-- and preferably only one --obvious way to do it.
Although that way may not be obvious at first unless you're Dutch.
Now is better than never.
Although never is often better than right now.
If the implementation is hard to explain, it's a bad idea.
If the implementation is easy to explain, it may be a good idea.
Namespaces are one honking great idea -- let's do more of those!

[slim ibex]

yea if he directly imported the name time() would work

[slate swan]

everything isnt about the python zen bro

[buoyant quail]

yes. but it's better to use timestamp

[sage otter]

I never hinted at the fact it didn’t exist. I’m saying with the example you provided it would of been aided by adding comments.

[buoyant quail]

no-no

[sage otter]

They were designed for that reason alone

As long as your wiring accurate comments you’ll be fine.

[buoyant quail]

embed = discord.Embed(........, timestamp=datetime.datetime.utcnow())

[slate swan]

if were going by the python zen then beautiful code that goes by performance is better than ugly code that is more readable with extra variables and useless things, exactly it doesnt matter its all opinions

everyone likes their own thing

[pliant gulch]

why can't you have both beautiful and optimised code

[slate swan]

yes

[sage otter]

You act like someone’s gonna get totally confused by reading their old code.

[slim ibex]

🗿

[slate swan]

some people say its ugly because its too complicated to read

[buoyant quail]

you need to delete embed.set_footer and add timestamp in embed initialization

[sage otter]

If it’s in that sense you probably don’t know python as well as you much as you think you do and the old code you have is probably a boilerplate your stole from stackoverflow

[pliant gulch]

[slate swan]

thats just bad style and not performance

ah sorry i never read the msg you were replying to

[sage otter]

That’s why comments exist god dammit 😭. As long as you get the understanding from the comments the full understanding will come later.

[slate swan]

some people dont use comments like me

maybe thats his point

[sage otter]

Then that’s your own fault then if you don’t understand your own code

If it’s low level/unreadable code

[slate swan]

i dont read comments i read code tbh

[sage otter]

You should

[buoyant quail]

but it's better to do readable code

[slate swan]

guys really can we go on topic?

[buoyant quail]

there are no questions

[lament depot]

**Do you think there's a way in which Discord could handle bots better?**

Suggest more topics here!

[sage otter]

Fuck off with slash command rollout and message intents.

[buoyant quail]

ye

[slate swan]

slash commands are better than command prefix

[sage otter]

Omg okimii. You hurt my head sometimes.

[slate swan]

you dont know a bots prefix where do you go slash commands its like a global prefix

[sage otter]

is that literally

the only thing you have to say about that

[slate swan]

Reason why its better

[sage otter]

because someone won’t know a bots prefix and with slash commands they don’t have to….

i just like auto complete part of them

[slate swan]

yes?

[sage otter]

Idrc for emphemeral

[sage otter]

dude that is literally the easiest problem to solve. This is like the worst type of leverage someone could use to say slash are better.

[slate swan]

bro how

because of the custom status?

[sage otter]

most people. when their bot gets mentioned they will respond with a prefix

custom status, about me, name, etc

That is like a minuscule point in why they are better than prefix commands

[slate swan]

while slash commands you just type a /

[sage otter]

My biggest problems with slash commands

• No aliases
• They can take up to an hour to register globally

Especially the aliases part. I need my aliases.

[slate swan]

why need an aliases when they show all of the commands?

[sage otter]

Because ux

[slate swan]

with categories for each bot

[sage otter]

🚶

[slate swan]

bro

[buoyant quail]

you can duplicate commands with different name 😄

[slate swan]

^

[sage otter]

That has literally nothing to do with why aliases exist.

[buoyant quail]

^

[slate swan]

why have aliases when you can read all the commands?

theyre in your face

[gaunt wedge]

how do i use webhook in discord.py?

[hoary cargo]

I hated slash commands at first, now I quite like them because it's easier with the autocomplete stuff, options

[final iron]

!d discord.WebHook

[slim ibex]

!d discord.Webhook

[unkempt canyon]

discord.Webhook

class discord.Webhook```
Represents an asynchronous Discord webhook.

Webhooks are a form to send messages to channels in Discord without a bot user or authentication.

There are two main ways to use Webhooks. The first is through the ones received by the library such as [`Guild.webhooks()`](https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/master/api.html#discord.Guild.webhooks "discord.Guild.webhooks") and [`TextChannel.webhooks()`](https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/master/api.html#discord.TextChannel.webhooks "discord.TextChannel.webhooks"). The ones received by the library will automatically be bound using the library’s internal HTTP session.

The second form involves creating a webhook object manually using the [`from_url()`](https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/master/api.html#discord.Webhook.from_url "discord.Webhook.from_url") or [`partial()`](https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/master/api.html#discord.Webhook.partial "discord.Webhook.partial") classmethods.

For example, creating a webhook from a URL and using [aiohttp](https://docs.aiohttp.org/en/stable/index.html "(in aiohttp v3.7)"):

[slim ibex]

https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/stable/search.html?q=webhook

[gaunt wedge]

ty :D

[final iron]

Extra capital

😔

[slate swan]

I have been working on my bot from 2 weeks now and i think I'm ready to use a db now
Any suggestions.

I will be using mongodb

[hardy wing]

await message.channel.send('Member count: '+ str(len(message.guild.members()))+"\nStarted: "+str(message.guild.created_at))```
saying list object is not callable idk what to do how would you fix this

[sick birch]

It's worth keeping in mind the sort of data you will be modelling, and if a no-sql or sql database will be easier to model said data

!d discord.Guild.members

[unkempt canyon]

discord.Guild.members

property members: List[discord.member.Member]```
A list of members that belong to this guild.

[sick birch]

it's a property, not a method

message.guild.members

[hardy wing]

oooooh so I have to remove the ()

[sick birch]

Yeah

[supple crescent]

is there a way to make a command say !record, then the bot copys the next message somone says and says it back

[final iron]

!d discord.ext.commands.Bot.wait_for

[unkempt canyon]

discord.ext.commands.Bot.wait\_for

wait_for(event, *, check=None, timeout=None)```
This function is a [*coroutine*](https://docs.python.org/3/library/asyncio-task.html#coroutine).

Waits for a WebSocket event to be dispatched.

This could be used to wait for a user to reply to a message, or to react to a message, or to edit a message in a self-contained way.

The `timeout` parameter is passed onto [`asyncio.wait_for()`](https://docs.python.org/3/library/asyncio-task.html#asyncio.wait_for "(in Python v3.9)"). By default, it does not timeout. Note that this does propagate the [`asyncio.TimeoutError`](https://docs.python.org/3/library/asyncio-exceptions.html#asyncio.TimeoutError "(in Python v3.9)") for you in case of timeout and is provided for ease of use.

In case the event returns multiple arguments, a [`tuple`](https://docs.python.org/3/library/stdtypes.html#tuple "(in Python v3.9)") containing those arguments is returned instead. Please check the [documentation](https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/master/api.html#discord-api-events) for a list of events and their parameters.

This function returns the **first event that meets the requirements**...

[slate swan]

Can you make it so when’s user clicks a message they can’t click on it anymore

[maiden fable]

Uhhhh?

@slate swan mind explaining?

[supple crescent]

thasnks

[supple crescent]

i still dont know how the bot would copy the persons message, since this one looks for a certan thing in amesage

[final iron]

It returns a message object

So you can get the content of it

[slate swan]

If I were to click the button once I wouldn’t be able to click it anymore using discord.py

[final iron]

!d discord.ui.View.stop

[unkempt canyon]

discord.ui.View.stop

stop()```
Stops listening to interaction events from this view.

This operation cannot be undone.

[alpine furnace]

^ but keep in mind there is always a schema. And more often than not, it's worth trying to figure out before you write anything significant

@slate swan

[gaunt wedge]

i have no idea how to use this, my bot already have commands (@bot.command()), how do i put this in use?

[final iron]

There are examples in the docs

[hardy wing]

await message.channel.send('Member count: '+ str(len(message.guild.members)))```
anybody know why it says there's only 1 person in a 552 person server?

[maiden fable]

Intents

[gaunt wedge]

i saw it, but i dont fully understand how to implement it to my bot

[hardy wing]

what

[tacit storm]

uhhh bad choice

[buoyant quail]

you need to enable intent

on site and in code

[hardy wing]

how would you do that?

[tacit storm]

mongodb isn’t relational when it comes to data.

if you want a db just use postgresql.

it’s fast with asynpg, it’s kinda easy to learn, and it has relational data

[buoyant quail]

!intents

[unkempt canyon]

Using intents in discord.py

Intents are a feature of Discord that tells the gateway exactly which events to send your bot. By default, discord.py has all intents enabled, except for the Members and Presences intents, which are needed for events such as on_member and to get members' statuses.

To enable one of these intents, you need to first go to the Discord developer portal, then to the bot page of your bot's application. Scroll down to the Privileged Gateway Intents section, then enable the intents that you need.

Next, in your bot you need to set the intents you want to connect with in the bot's constructor using the intents keyword argument, like this:

from discord import Intents
from discord.ext import commands

intents = Intents.default()
intents.members = True

bot = commands.Bot(command_prefix="!", intents=intents)

For more info about using intents, see the discord.py docs on intents, and for general information about them, see the Discord developer documentation on intents.

[maiden fable]

!intents

Oh rip. Thanks bruv

[buoyant quail]

bruh

[hardy wing]

so would I have to do any change to this code once I do that

[buoyant quail]

no

only in bot initialize and site

but i recommend to use f-string instead of +

[zenith basin]

#help-mushroom discord.py

[hazy oxide]

So I migrating from discord.py to nextcord, and suddenly my serverinfo/avatar/userinfo command doesn't work (I think all command that has footer/timestamp). Can someone help?

[final iron]

Can we see a code example?

[hazy oxide]

Wait

[hazy oxide]

@client.command()
async def info(ctx, member: nextcord.Member = None):
    if member == None:
        member = ctx.author

    roles = [role for role in member.roles]

    embed = nextcord.Embed(colour=member.color,
                          timestamp=ctx.message.created_at)

    embed.set_author(name=f"User Info - {member}")
    embed.set_thumbnail(url=member.avatar_url)
    embed.set_footer(text=f"Requested by {ctx.author}",
                     icon_url=ctx.author.avatar_url)

    embed.add_field(name="ID : ", value=member.id)
    embed.add_field(name="Server Nickname : ", value=member.display_name)

    embed.add_field(
        name="Created At : ",
        value=member.created_at.strftime("%a, %#d %B %Y, %I:%M %p UTC"))
    embed.add_field(
        name="Joined At : ",
        value=member.joined_at.strftime("%a, %#d %B %Y, %I:%M %p UTC"))

    embed.add_field(name=f"Roles ({len(roles)})",
                    value=" ".join([role.mention for role in roles]))
    embed.add_field(name="Top Role : ", value=member.top_role.mention)

    embed.add_field(name="Bot", value=member.bot)

    await ctx.reply(embed=embed)

Ups

[final iron]

What do you mean it doesn't work?

[hazy oxide]

When I run the the code, everything is fine

But when I run the command, the embed won't appear

[buoyant quail]

errors?

[final iron]

Do you have an error handler eating up errors?

[torn sail]

I think avatar_url was replaced with avatar.url

At least in discord.py v2

[hazy oxide]

Ya

[final iron]

Then remove it

[hazy oxide]

The error handling embed of missing arguments were fine

[hazy oxide]

Ok lemme try

[final iron]

Ask a specific question

[hazy oxide]

Ah yes, you're right

Thank you for helping

[buoyant quail]

not a question

[slate swan]

@manic wing can help you with that hes done many

[buoyant quail]

umm so

just dont send diff messages

❌ ⭕⭕\n⭕ ❌ ❌ \n❌ ❌ ❌ like that

i mean you need to send

so calc all lines first

[tough lance]

Using buttons for tic tac toe is better

I even use button for my minesweeper

[slate swan]

hey just tryna do a cog reload command, getting an error unsure what it the meaning of it

Code:

error:

[tough lance]

Why are you using self outside a cog

Class

[slate swan]

Rip thats the issue, didnt realize

ah shit i just noticed that too

[tough lance]

Heh

[final iron]

Don't use a bare exception

Specify the error you want to catch

[silent ermine]

does @commands.is_owner() refer to the bot owner or the server owner?

[slate swan]

it's all fixed

[final iron]

Bot owner

[silent ermine]

alr thanks

[final iron]

It's terrible practice

!d discord.ext.commands.Bot.load_extension

[unkempt canyon]

discord.ext.commands.Bot.load\_extension

load_extension(name, *, package=None)```
Loads an extension.

An extension is a python module that contains commands, cogs, or listeners.

An extension must have a global function, `setup` defined as the entry point on what to do when the extension is loaded. This entry point must have a single argument, the `bot`.

[slate swan]

yeah im just learning as i go

first time touching cogs, obviously i'll fix things once i get everythin goin

[final iron]

This should be something you learn then

[slate swan]

just doing the bare minimum rn

[final iron]

Don't

Do it properly the first time

[slate swan]

Uhh, dont say too much at once, they said, they just started cogs

Wouldnt you be annoyed if you were a beginner and you would be loaded with stuff at once to use with stuff you were just testing out and didnt have a good grasp of

[final iron]

No

[slate swan]

orait

[final iron]

How

[slate swan]

I always get ignored or taken as a joke 😭

[final iron]

Knowing to not use a bare exception is beginner stuff

Or you could of just had someone tell you how to do it properly

[slate swan]

Dude, its not, you barely need any error catch in an except while learning basic python

[final iron]

How

[slate swan]

Or most of them are sometimes not taught*

[final iron]

Error handling is extremely important

[slate swan]

I know, that came out wrong lmao

no need to argue about it, pep did say it in a "rude" way instead of just letting me know "hey do this instead of this" nonetheless he made me aware, no need to continue about this. again im just messing around with this whole cog thing, i'll fix up the patches once i actually get to it

[slate swan]

We were actually arguing about something else, dw

[final iron]

How was I rude

[slim ibex]

an argument 🗿

[unkempt canyon]

Hey @brittle axle!

It looks like you tried to attach a Python file - please use a code-pasting service such as https://paste.pythondiscord.com

[final iron]

I did recommend them to not do bare exceptions

[brittle axle]

https://paste.pythondiscord.com/ozahubafuz The problem is that no errors show up in the terminal but the bot wont respond

[final iron]

Explain to me how I was dismissive

[slate swan]

"Do it the first time" was so so bad to say

[final iron]

Where's your event decorator

[brittle axle]

oh

[final iron]

How? Doing it the right time should be everyone's goal

[slate swan]

Can you show your full code?

[final iron]

I did tell him to only catch specific errors...

[final iron]

I think they just forgot the decorator

I told them and they disappeared

[brittle axle]

i put the decorator but it still didnt work

[final iron]

Restarted the bot?

[brittle axle]

yes

[final iron]

Can we see how you did it?

[slate swan]

^

[keen talon]

@final iron I don't follow pep8

[slate swan]

Way easier to debug than to ask for more snippets of it

!ot

[unkempt canyon]

Off-topic channel: #ot2-never-nester’s-nightmare

Please read our off-topic etiquette before participating in conversations.

[brittle axle]

https://paste.pythondiscord.com/agakoluwaf here is the code

[final iron]

You're the one bringing it up again?

It was finished

[slate swan]

Internet lag rip

[brittle axle]

you need full code?

alr

[final iron]

Don't change your presence in on_ready, Discord's api really doesn't like it and can disconnect you

[slate swan]

Ah yes when "full code" means "partial code"

[brittle axle]

https://paste.pythondiscord.com/uwogugosof

here is the full code

[brittle axle]

I didnt see that message lmao

[slate swan]

Also, you can either make a task (if you wanna change statuses) or a seperate function to change the status of the bot, do not do it in on_ready

[brittle axle]

i thought i had to give the full code with the decorated

[brittle axle]

ok

[vast gale]

I say full code even if i only want partial code

[final iron]

Bare exception 🗿. Using them is bad practice, check out the docs for the errors that can be raised and handle them appropriately

[rotund leaf]

What bot you want to build?

[final iron]

Using a bare exception can cause your code to hide errors you want to see

[brittle axle]

what is a bare exception though

[slate swan]

Are you actually calling bot.run()?

[brittle axle]

the first parts of the code i followed a yt tutorial

then i started use the docs lmao

[vast gale]

yes, yes indeed

[brittle axle]

ohh ok

[vast gale]

nope there's a difference between those two

the second one is much better than the first

[slate swan]

try:
      uwu
except: #bare exception
--------------------------
try: .....
except ValueError: #error specific exception```

[vast gale]

BaseException -- this is the true class that all exceptions inherit from, like SystemExit and KeyboardInterrupt

[brittle axle]

I have i just forgot to copy that part

[slim ibex]

BaseException is where all Exceptions inherit from

[vast gale]

a bare except: is equal to except BaseException: whereas except Exception: will allow the SystemExit or KeyboardInterrupt to propagate outwards

[slim ibex]

there are some BaseExceptions that are not Exceptions

which include SystemExit, KeyboardInterrupt and GeneratorExit

[vast gale]

yes, is that not what I said lol

[slim ibex]

oh wait

i didn't see the context from before that line

[vast gale]

lol

[slim ibex]

🙃

[vast gale]

tldr except Exception: isn't nearly as bad as except:

[slim ibex]

but you can, and should, get more specific

i guess you could technically say that to some extent

[vast gale]

no, bare exception is just except: afaict

[slim ibex]

but it still specifies which type of exception

[slate swan]

rule 7

[slim ibex]

which are all exceptions that are Exceptions

ah ashley is at it again

[lament depot]

**What unique features does your bot contain, if any?**

Suggest more topics here!

[vast gale]

its a lot better than a bare except, and in quite a few cases with dpy its the only viable solution as its to catch user generated errors

[slate swan]

Rule follower yeah

[slim ibex]

mhmm

[vast gale]

for example, dpy internally uses try/except Exception when invoking a command in order to run the error handler

@slate swan yeah i'm on topic 😝

[slate swan]

Yeah, I can simply mass ban all of the server members with a single command not a nuke

[slate swan]

cof cof

[vast gale]

tbf its extremely easy to write extremely destructive code

[slate swan]

Uhh i was kidding

[vast gale]

especially when developing

I have not ever done anything like that when fixing stuff nope

[lament mesa]

asyncio.sleep

[vast gale]

the library should handle ratelimits so it wouldn't be a problem

except for a maximum limit of bans for a day IIRC

[slate swan]

Yeah, my friend tried to nuke my server with his bot (totally not a coded bot) in the hopes of making it funny to nuke my server, imagine

[vast gale]

😔

[slate swan]

Just "tried"

[vast gale]

and this is why you don't give bots you don't know admin y'all

this has been a PSA

[slate swan]

Nah he told me to invite it to my server, I invited it to his server and nuked his

[vast gale]

[slate swan]

Welp

[zenith basin]

Ignoring exception in on_raw_reaction_remove
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "C:\Users\\Trello\venv\lib\site-packages\discord\client.py", line 382, in _run_event
    await coro(*args, **kwargs)
  File "C:\Users\\Trello\cogs\Reaction.py", line 97, in on_raw_reaction_remove
    role = discord.utils.get(member.guild.roles, id=reaction_role["role_id"])
AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'guild'

[unkempt canyon]

wolf v0.0.0

UNKNOWN

[slate swan]

Wow

[zenith basin]

   @commands.Cog.listener()
    async def on_raw_reaction_remove(self, payload):
        # check if reaction role is in self.db
        reaction_roles = reaction_roles_data.get(payload.guild_id, None)
        if reaction_roles is None:
            return
        # check if reaction role is in self.db
        for reaction_role in reaction_roles:
            if reaction_role["emoji"] == str(payload.emoji):
                # remove role from member
                member = payload.member
                role = discord.utils.get(member.guild.roles, id=reaction_role["role_id"])
                await member.remove_roles(role)
                break

[vast gale]

member is none in a reaction remove

always

[final iron]

[zenith basin]

o so how do i fix

add a parameter

[slate swan]

Use a search engine

[vast gale]

I have 83 https://github.com/python-discord/bot/blob/main/bot/resources/stars.json

[final iron]

You gives you a user id and guild id, you can fetch a member object

[zenith basin]

i thought

member = payload.member

[slate swan]

I meant, copy them from a website or smth

But but, I'm willing to do it for a free nitro

[vast gale]

payload.member is always None in this case

[zenith basin]

o

[vast gale]

[unkempt canyon]

Rules

5. Do not provide or request help on projects that may break laws, breach terms of services, or are malicious or inappropriate.

[final iron]

!rule 9

[unkempt canyon]

Rules

9. Do not offer or ask for paid work of any kind.

[slate swan]

Lmaoooo

[alpine furnace]

Write a Python script to parse it all

100% there’s some random csv of this

[zenith moon]

for some reason whenever i try to put random.randrange() in a url in discord.py it only sticks to one number and one number only, only if i restart it changes but it only sticks to one specific number and not a random one, can anyone help me with this?

[slate swan]

Is it defined outside the function?

[alpine furnace]

Show your code. Seems like that’s being evaluated at load time

You know what, sure

[vast gale]

!d discord.Client.get_user you can try to get the user from the cache

[unkempt canyon]

discord.Client.get\_user

get_user(id, /)```
Returns a user with the given ID.

[slate swan]

Why would I ask you like that...plus i guess imma remain an average never nitro used user

[zenith basin]

hwo do that

[zenith moon]

# vars
url = f'https://games.roblox.com/v2/users/{random.randint(0, 200000000)}/games?accessFilter=Public&sortOrder=Asc&limit=10'
response_rblx = requests.get(url)
games = Dict(response_rblx.json())


#command
elif user_message.lower() == ';randrblxgame':
game_id = games.data[0]['rootPlace']['id']
await message.channel.send(f'https://www.roblox.com/games/{game_id}')

[slate swan]

Client

[vast gale]

client.get_user(varwithuserid)

[zenith moon]

keeps sending the same int

[slate swan]

Coincidence?

[vast gale]

this may return none, in which case you can attempt to fetch the user as well

[zenith moon]

no ive tested this a bajillion times

[final iron]

client 😔

[slate swan]

Idk how much this

[vast gale]

I use client because commands.bot is a subclass

[slate swan]

^^

[final iron]

Yeah I know

[zenith basin]

how do with commands

[slate swan]

pycord.Bot 😔

[final iron]

pycord 😔

[vast gale]

its where you're using the random number generation, you aren't using rng in the command body from what I can see

[vast gale]

py-cord*

[slate swan]

Us 😔

[slate swan]

why's everyone such a boomer 😔

[alpine furnace]

[alpine furnace]

Has the same package name as dpy actually, so discord.ext.commands.Bot

[vast gale]

or discord.Bot

I still do not. understand. why there's Client and Bot

[final iron]

Don't use requests, it's blocking. Also, don't use an on_message event for command. Use the command frame work

[alpine furnace]

One's a client in the base library, the other one is the subclass in commands that supports like, cogs n shit and command decorators

[slate swan]

.......
can you not
py**-**cord sucks already, you'll make me hate it more by reminding me of things that I hate it for 😔

[zenith basin]

? how get id

[final iron]

If you mean pycord.Bot I think it's for their slash commands

[alpine furnace]

What's so bad about it?

[slate swan]

lmao

[vast gale]

yeah why not make them the same class

[alpine furnace]

It's.. literally just a dpy fork

[slate swan]

disnake bias 😔

[undone geyser]

does anyone know how i can keep my bot online 24/7?

[final iron]

Ask the devs

This is why disnake is superior

[alpine furnace]

Dude, I just explained

[alpine furnace]

.

[vast gale]

that's not true tho

[undone geyser]

i dont need to keep my pc on 24/7 for that?

[vast gale]

they have discord.Bot, and discord.Client, in addition to discord.ext.commands.Bot

[final iron]

No you didn't

[alpine furnace]

Yeah, forget the subpackage commands, point still applies

[undone geyser]

oh dang ty

[final iron]

pycord.Bot is for slash commands

Also I know they kept the discord name space

Just saying pycord for clarity

[vast gale]

Both discord.Bot and discord.Client shouldn't exist IMO.
It should be either one or the other

[alpine furnace]

It looks like it's just for convenience. Commands is kept for backwards compatibility, presumably, while this new Bot is specifically for the slash commands which discord is trying to force us all to use

[vast gale]

pls dm me your reasons I wanna hear them

[slate swan]

sure

[alpine furnace]

How come? One supports commands and interactions, one doesn't

[zenith basin]

how do i gte the var with user id

[slate swan]

I will, in some time, I gotta make a news command rn 😔

[vast gale]

its on the payload object

!d discord.RawReactionActionEvent.user_id

[unkempt canyon]

discord.RawReactionActionEvent.user\_id

The user ID who added the reaction or whose reaction was removed.

[vast gale]

😔

[vast gale]

• Client: supports all of the standard features, but not all interactions
• Bot: supports application commands
• commands.Bot supports application commands and prefix commands

There is no reason from my point of view to not add application command support to Client if you're already adding it in the main library to Bot

[alpine furnace]

What exactly are the 'standard features' though? Client is a client, bot is a bot. A normal user could also have been a client, during a certain point in dpy's history, but it's literally just an interface to state and gateway both

So it kinda makes sense to separate a Bot from a Client. People won't necessarily be using all the stuff that comes with a Bot, nor should pycord force them to, imo.

[final iron]

What are the downsides to using commands.Bot though

[alpine furnace]

Maybe you don't want a bot

[final iron]

Doesn't tell me anything

[alpine furnace]

Just something that listens for reactions or 🤷‍♂️

Or a low level interface to Discord's http api and gateway, whatever you may use that for is unknown, maybe you want your own bot class

[final iron]

commands.Bot can do the exact same things

It's a subclass of Client

[alpine furnace]

Yes, because it's a subclass of client

[zenith moon]

what else could i use instead of requests then?

[slate swan]

aiohttp or httpx

!pypi aiohttp

[unkempt canyon]

aiohttp v3.8.1

Async http client/server framework (asyncio)

[slate swan]

!pypi httpx

[unkempt canyon]

httpx v0.22.0

The next generation HTTP client.

[slate swan]

"next-gen"

[tough lance]

aiohttp is more preferred

[tough lance]

Yes Gen "X"

[slate swan]

lmao

[tough lance]

Httpx

[dull terrace]

anyone ever create a bot and then see that people only use it for the simple features and never touch the stuff that took you ages to code

[tough lance]

Yup

It took ages for me to code connect4 and nobody uses it

[dull terrace]

i created a whole timed battle system for creative prompts and it's been used a total of 2 times this month so far

while the most used thing is the art prompt which just shows pictures from the art subreddit, while my bot is for creative prompts

https://tenor.com/view/calculation-math-hangover-allen-zach-galifianakis-gif-6219070

what is it that discord wants

[unkempt canyon]

:incoming_envelope: :ok_hand: applied mute to @stark solar until <t:1645766611:f> (9 minutes and 59 seconds) (reason: newlines rule: sent 137 newlines in 10s).

[slate swan]

What’s the problem here?
The console says nothing related to the code
The giveaway command runs but no giveaway embed is sent

[blissful lagoon]

!UNMUTE 419754823815266304

[unkempt canyon]

:incoming_envelope: :ok_hand: pardoned infraction mute for @stark solar.

[blissful lagoon]

sry caps

!paste

[unkempt canyon]

Pasting large amounts of code

If your code is too long to fit in a codeblock in discord, you can paste your code here:
https://paste.pythondiscord.com/

After pasting your code, save it by clicking the floppy disk icon in the top right, or by typing ctrl + S. After doing that, the URL should change. Copy the URL and post it here so others can see it.

[blissful lagoon]

use that though

[stark solar]

okay

[slate swan]

Reply with ping *

[stark solar]

https://paste.pythondiscord.com/urejicaloj
this is not working, it has no errors idk why

(pasted it twice, oopsie)

[slate swan]

Did you do update_stats.start()?

[stark solar]

Did you do update_stats.start()?

[slate swan]

?

Why did you just copy and paste what I said

[stark solar]

bruh

idk...
it was ran once outside of on_ready

[slate swan]

Show more code

The entire file, preferably

[stark solar]

that's all the code that could possibly cause an issue
nothing else
I'm 100% sure

[slate swan]

...

You said it wasn't running

Did you even start the loop somewhere?

[slate swan]

Cause I can't tell what this even means

[stark solar]

sorry, Im not really a developer type, trying to figure something out on my own, speaking through the developer

[slate swan]

on_ready is quite a meaningless event to listen to, I'm still confused as to why so many people rely on it so much

[stark solar]

im playing a game of telephone :C

[slate swan]

What?

Lmao what are you talking about

[stark solar]

okay, do you know the game telephone? you get told something and you pass it on
and no matter how simple it is, it gets very messed up

[slate swan]

Yes, I know the expression, but what do you need help with? You're refusing to provide any more information or actually answer any questions I have

[stark solar]

this is what they said

[slate swan]

Why are you even doing this lmao

Is the user banned?

[stark solar]

no, hes just stupid and does not like getting help, so im trying to find a solution

[slate swan]

? This is stupid, thanks for wasting my time 👍

[stiff anvil]

Can I use json files like a DataBase? for xp/levels ?

ping me please!

[slate swan]

JSON is not a database, if you prefer to work with JSON-like objects, use something like MongoDB.

There are way too many options for a database out there too, just pick one that you feel is appropriate

I personally don't have much experience with databases other than MongoDB, but it has worked fine for me so far.

https://jsonbase.com/#docs?ref=apilist.fun
you could use this though

if not mongoDB

any free bot hosting sites yall know of?

[slate swan]

replit there isnt

[slate swan]

oh alr thx

[slate swan]

Any that are dedicated to hosting a Discord bot are a waste of time and money. They usually target those who don't care enough to learn how to operate a computer via cli or those who have no clue what they're doing. Just pick up a free micro (for 1 year) from AWS or check out Google's cloud computing services for a free vm.

AttributeError: module 'discord' has no attribute 'ui'
``` this is my error

run python3 -m discord --version and show the output

replace python3 with however you run python

[sick birch]

I second this, AWS has a free tier that provides 700 free hours per month for a year iirc for their t3.micro or t2.micro instances

going with one of the bigger providers is honestly a better idea imo since they have a vast variety of suites in case you decide to expand your bot, such as website hosting, domains, load balancing, automatic scaling, databases, storage, etc are all provided in one ecosystem

[slate swan]

That being said, there is definitely a learning curve to being able to operate one of these vms. Deploying stuff for production in itself is a deep rabbit hole, just thought you should be aware.

[slate swan]

^ I second this

[sick birch]

It's not all point and click like it may be for the other providers, but with that comes more customizability and options

[slate swan]

I have used AWS' free tier, and the micro tier is not all that bad if you're starting out. They are definitely pretty weak and can't do much lifting, but it's way better than I expected (and magnitudes better than trying to abuse repl.it for many reasons)

[sick birch]

The micro tier is 2 gb memory and 2 cores iirc?

[slate swan]

One plus is that the network bandwidth is pretty good, around 1GB up and down

[sick birch]

Honestly for a discord bot this should hold for a good while

[slate swan]

I'm pretty sure only t2.micro is eligible for free tier

[sick birch]

Considering discord bots spend 90% of the time waiting for a user to trigger something and 10% actually doing something, 2gb ram and 2 cores suffice plenty

[sick birch]

yeah something like that

[slate swan]

Which is 1GB ram and 1 v core

[sick birch]

not too bad, since most people going for the free tier don't have much requirements for their bots

[slate swan]

Yeah, it's actually pretty good, especially for private bots or those that are below a few hundred guilds

[sick birch]

How's it like with google?

[slate swan]

Never used it

[sick birch]

Ah, some of my friends were using their firebase (or firestore?) suite and i was curious on how it differs from AWS since i mostly use aws for my hosting needs

[slate swan]

How do you find AWS?

[sick birch]

My experience with it?

[slate swan]

Yeah

[sick birch]

I mean i haven't tried any of the others so i honestly can't say, but so far it's been amazing. It's my dad's account and he's fine with me using it so I don't worry about the cost all that much but generally very excellent

[maiden fable]

Rip, why do I feel like I always advertise Oracle ;-;

[sick birch]

Oracle 👀

[boreal ravine]

How do I replicate yggdrasil's userphone command

[unkempt canyon]

@languid wagon :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.

28-07-2019 01:58:26 UTC

[visual island]

make a dict containing origin_server/channel_id as a key and target_server/channel_id and do stuff with it in on_message

[maiden fable]

stuff with on message 👀

[visual island]

*in

[maiden fable]

heh?

[visual island]

do stuff with it in on_message

[maiden fable]

meh ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[slate swan]

!d discord.Object.created_at

[unkempt canyon]

discord.Object.created\_at

property created_at: datetime.datetime```
Returns the snowflake’s creation time in UTC.

[slate swan]

Just create an instance of Object with that id and use the .created_at property

It's okay, I've been there and attempted that too

After implementing it myself, I checked the GitHub repo for discord.py (to check if it wasn't implemented for Object) and turns out that it already exists.

[maiden fable]

Same, I also cannot code properly

[light violet]

How to run exe from py

[maiden fable]

u need to do os.system(name_of_exe.exe)

[light violet]

.

@maiden fable will it work?

[maiden fable]

and make sure the script is in the same folder as the exe

+1?

Ah wait nvm

I thought u meant ID of member and stuff

sorry

[placid skiff]

Easy way to access folder inside your project? (Without using absolute path)
Example:

folder_1:
  folder_2:
    some_other_files  
  folder_3:
    folder_4:
      the_file_i_want
script_folder_1:
  main.py
  script_subfolder:
    script_1.py:

I want to access the file in the folder_4 from script 1 for example, without going mad
In python general no one answered to me so don't blast me up please (Hunter...)

[light violet]

@maiden fable hey it is in the same folder btw still not found showing replot

[slate swan]

Use relative paths

[light violet]

It is comming permission denied

[slate swan]

whats the issue?

[hoary cargo]

Subtract the current time from the .created_at

[alpine furnace]

Well yeah, you need to convert the tz of the aware timezone to utc so you can actually operate on them

Make no mistake, timezone stuff is horrible in Python

[upbeat otter]

smh

thats why you send a bit more context to what you're trying to do, if you really cut out the part where its your problem, then whats gonna cause the error?

[slate swan]

[manic wing]

ASHLEYYYY

[slate swan]

caaaaeeeedennnn

[vast gale]

sleeeeeeeep

[small igloo]

why my hyperlink not work 🗿

[maiden fable]

no space between the two

or idk most probably wrong brackets

[vast gale]

• note that it will only work in interaction responses or embeds
• extra space

[small igloo]

ok ty :V

[small igloo]

ty 2

[maiden fable]

is fine

[spring flax]

anyone mind giving some suggestion commands/features for a community utility bot

[manic wing]

wow cant even match my energy 🙄

[slate swan]

uwu we're alike

[slate swan]

Url shortener uh,

[manic wing]

qr code generator

[maiden fable]

👀

[spring flax]

what could it be of?

[manic wing]

? someone sends a link and it generates a qr code

[maiden fable]

Someone sends their internet name and pass and a QR code is generated 😄

I mean, that is a feature in mobiles

[spring flax]

okay well a feature more for the server mods

[maiden fable]

How it gonna help the mods tho 👀

[spring flax]

just utility basically

[maiden fable]

Okay, ig

[spring flax]

no i mean that's what I want

[maiden fable]

Ah okay

[slate swan]

I already have that and to decode too 😔 tell something else

[maiden fable]

Lmao

Just make a functionality to let user make their own customizable profile for whatever reason

I hope u won't add more of those cringe commands

[slate swan]

Whats some fun small commands?

[timid wagon]

Getting stuff from APIs is... nice?

[manic wing]

very nice

[slate swan]

you are not old you are ancient

[maiden fable]

604855154365300753

493451846543998977

(First is Duck's ID, Second is mine)

Hmm more than 1000 days old

[slate swan]

why ctx not defined?

[slate swan]

ctx*

oh i see

i was trying to speed run it i should take my time

[slate swan]

check spelling of async def meme statement

yea just saw it was cx

oops 😅

[slate swan]

its alright

[crisp shoal]

@bot.command(aliases=["message"])
async def msg(ctx, *, args):
    class dict(*args):
        {"description": args}
    e = discord.Embed(description= dict["description"])
    await ctx.send(embed=e)
``` yo does this look like it works or what do i need to change for the dict embed to work

isn't sending rn

[vale wing]

cs.get

Why are you dividing a variable to get req and doing that asynchronously 😳

[grim oar]

What's this class crap, just pass args directly

e = discord.Embed(description=args)

[maiden fable]

Tf u r doing?

[crisp shoal]

i want to add multiple keys, for title, img, author, urls etc

[grim oar]

why

why not pass it all directly

[crisp shoal]

i want it to become an embed builder command, so a user can create any embed

and i was told i need to make a dict class embed for that

[grim oar]

well yeah, no need of creating your own class for it

[crisp shoal]

how can I then pass values for the keys to create an embed?

[grim oar]

Just like this

[crisp shoal]

that's only args, but i also want to pass a title, author, image, thumbnail, url, footer through the message

[grim oar]

How will user run the command